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Speaker 1 (00:01):
The views and opinions expressed in the following programmer those
of the speaker and don't necessarily represent those of the
station it's staff, management or ownership. Good morning, you'll find
me out with Pete and the Poet Cold.
Speaker 2 (00:13):
I'm Peter Leonard and I'm the poet Gold, and we're
on the.
Speaker 1 (00:16):
Air with each other, and Uncle Micha is gonna pitch
in talking about it some summer and Poughkeepsie. And before
we get to that, we're gonna go right to the
Poet Cold for her weekly original prayer poem incantation Gold,
Please got it roll?
Speaker 2 (00:32):
Okay, today I'm going to do Behind the veil, there
are mirrors, doors, layers, reflections of our lives, bits and pieces, thoughts,
silence turned into rumbles, mini quakes. Deep in the soul
hidden behind the veil, there's so much to say, Prolonged
whispers like wind in the night, we can't ignore, deafening
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cracking the landscape behind the veil. No one notices, but
you complicit in one's own absence. Words we never dare
speak become descending tears seeping into the corner of our mouths,
leaving crystals on our tongue. Tiny little cubes, perhaps abandoned,
dissolved or transformed.
Speaker 1 (01:11):
Wow, it's very visual, yeah man in Germans of visual
things called this is not a poem, but it's a
mere observation. What's going on right now, Right outside that
window with Iheart's studio here in Poughkeepsie is a beautiful
field of clover. And on that culver there are five
big geese and those geese are parading around munching on
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the clover. And to me, that's a sign that we're
going to have a great Poughkeepsie because clover is my
favorite flower. Because every one of the clovers looks to
me like a galaxy, and it reminds me that God
must have just taken things, just thrown galaxies out into
the universe. Yeah, and and then God also put the
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he said, moncharm and enjoy them one at a time.
Speaker 2 (02:05):
I guess have that full circle of life moment, you know, with.
Speaker 1 (02:08):
Clover and Poughkeepsie is a very beautiful thing.
Speaker 2 (02:11):
And clover, like you your Irish, just sent right, you're Irish? Okay,
So isn't there something between clovers and.
Speaker 1 (02:19):
Rocks?
Speaker 2 (02:20):
Shamrock?
Speaker 1 (02:20):
It was your full clover.
Speaker 2 (02:22):
But it's a Clover right, it's.
Speaker 1 (02:24):
You know, but I'm telling me a beautiful white star
like celestial clover. And you see bunches of them around
and every one of them looks to me like God
through it. There as a way of saying, and you
should see the other stuff I've done with the universe.
Speaker 3 (02:42):
So everybody understands Peter is not feeling well. I think
he may have a he's he's here, he's a trooper.
He's going to get through the show.
Speaker 2 (02:51):
Absolutely, and it's and it's actually, Peter, the first time
that you've actually sat in the years that we've been
together in a show, and so the visual you know,
you've never been in that position where the mic is
and looking at facing the window and seeing all the
glory out there.
Speaker 1 (03:09):
Yeah. Yeah, I like to stand up and she shows
you and I'm on the radio because it just frees
me up. I'm not I'm not inhibiting any vital consciousness.
You know, I don't talk out of my brain. I'm
sitting down. I think I'm suppressing some thought.
Speaker 2 (03:30):
Got you Okay, alrighty okay, But thank you Peter for
sharing it. Actually that was very quite beautiful. I think
you know, the whole image and that you know, the
galaxy and the orbits, and it's just Poughkeepsie, though.
Speaker 3 (03:46):
I didn't want to bring up if you hear a
couple of gunshots, it might be the geese.
Speaker 1 (03:49):
So no longer. And because it's Poughkeepsie makes me more
beautiful sense. Yeah, it's an ordinary world that we live in.
Speaker 2 (04:04):
And then I'm gonna push back on that, Uncle Mike.
There's not a lot of gunshots in Poughkeepsie. Itots yeah, yeah,
just like everyplace else.
Speaker 3 (04:13):
You know.
Speaker 2 (04:14):
No, it's true. I mean, listen, you know, there's a
lot of a lot of gunshots in a lot of places.
Speaker 3 (04:19):
Actually, we're going to talk about Poughkeepsie in the summers.
We're going to talk about and all of us in
this room especially have such high hopes for Poughkeepsie. I
know I do. I think Poughkeepsie is really on the
verge if finally turning the corner. You know, we had
Harvey on with his book of the Main Streets the
Main Frames, which I still need. I'm going to read
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that because it's fascinating to me when he did. But
we're all so hopeful and there is a lot of
great things happening we come into the summertime here in Poughkeepsie,
there's a lot of great festivals. There's a lot of
things going on here that are really starting to show
signs of the rebirth of Poughkeepsie. And we have to
hope it keeps happening because that's the direction we all
wanted to go.
Speaker 2 (04:57):
In, right and I believe you, Poughkeepsie we were one
of the recipients of the d ri I development, you know,
grants and substantial amount of money. Well it's beyond beyond
his organization, but it's you know, there're the Chai Chai
Builders have invested largely in the city of Poughkeepsie and
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and with the dri I money, there's going to be
some significant things taking place, like the Market Street becoming
two way. Uh. That's that's a project that's going to
be taking place. But six hundred thousand was awarded to
Community Matters to to build with the Chi builders for
the Catherine Street. Uh, that's going to be a project
is going to be worked on. And then there's some
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buildings on Main Street through tried developers that that are
going to apartment buildings and the Wallace Center. You know,
it's so there's a lot of really exciting things that
that's going to be happening moving forward. And I'm happy
to know that Main Street itself is the in a
fisiary of of some of these positive things that are
going to be taking place.
Speaker 3 (06:04):
Yeah, I mean there's so much potential. We've talked about
it on a lot of shows. There's so much potential here.
I mean because the train station here is the biggest
hub for everything because it brings people in from all
over the Poughkeepsie. I mean when you look at Beacon
and what happened down there, the transformation down there is
it's a miracle. What's happened down there, And Beacon is
a thriving city now and you go there on a
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Saturday or Sunday, you wouldn't even know you were in
Beacon anymore. Yeah, And that's going to happen here right right,
It's just a matter of time because there's even more
potential here.
Speaker 2 (06:33):
I think we oh absolutely. I always like to say
it's it's the it's the last stop on the Metro North,
but the first place you want to be. Oh yeah
you like that? Yeah, no, better copyright that is going
to grab that one that.
Speaker 1 (06:50):
You know you brushed by a couple of things here
on Gold but yeah, with the grant, you know, having
most people go two ways one thing, but from the
youth development side, you want to because that's an area
you know, really well if you give us a sense
of what's possible on that you mentioned Catherine Street the
building right, Community matterge too, and Real Skills I'm sure
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we'll be in the middle of that too.
Speaker 2 (07:13):
Well, you know, we're working on another location, you know,
so as a youth organization at Real Skills. But community
matters to is Lekete, the executive director, has great vision,
you know, and and tenacity and and dedication you know
to the work with serving the children of Poughkeepsie, And
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so I was really happy to see him get that award,
to see community matters, to get that award and and
reactivate the Catherine Street building because you know, for some
time now it hasn't been in use and so and
it was a place for students, you know, for children,
and so to see it revitalize as part of the
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downtime Revitalation initiative is exciting.
Speaker 1 (07:57):
Canther was found there in nineteen twenty one, which is
over one hundred years ago, and I guess it's stopped
having programming, you know, maybe five years ago or something. Yeah,
And so the building is there, and you know it
has the spirits of past dedication because students, people who
are in the count Street program and that was adults,
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have very fond memories of it and are very positive
towards what happened to them as kids there. In terms
of being encouraged.
Speaker 3 (08:30):
Well, you know, everything we talk about all the different
organizations I'm involved with, the children are our only hope
at this point. The children are a future. And if
we don't start educating them better and in some cases
teach them the history that they're not getting, they're going
to make the same mistakes right, and we can't have that.
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We're at a point now at our civilization where we've
got to we've got to turn the corner here. At
some point, things have got to start getting more positive
and we've got to start going back to treating people
the way, you know, treat some of the way you
want to be treated. That whole mentality is gone for
a long time. And if we can instill add in
the kids today, we've got a chance, because they're going
to grow up to your point, Peter, that those kids
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that grew up in the Catharine Street that was so
successful and so thriving, they're adults now and hopefully they're
going to instill When this is redeveloped, they'll have their
kids be part of that and start that cycle all
over again. But you break that cycle, boy, it's hard
to get it going again.
Speaker 2 (09:31):
It's hard.
Speaker 1 (09:32):
And part of the difficulty is, you know, structurally having
the buildings, having the funding, but it's also finding the leader.
And it's can't say Taylor, who's been on the show
with us several times. He's somebody who is easy to
believe in. You know, he's a guy who carries himself
with a quiet dignity. And when you mentioned he has,
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you know, some vision that's for real, you can pick
that up. To have government money you get behind that
is really just a good government too good people, but
you also need good government.
Speaker 2 (10:11):
Yeah, So it's so it's it's it's a good it's
a good uh project. I think I think Poughkeepsie has
been overdue and so it's it's nice to know that.
I think it's worth ten million dollars or something like
that coming into Was it ten million, uh that we're
going to be awarded. Yeah, I think it is ten million,
and and and the projects that are all going to
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manifest out of it, there's uh, I think three hundred
and fifty thousand going towards public art programs, you know,
as well for the arts community. So I think it's
a it's a win for for a lot of people,
for a lot of organizations to win for the community
and and for Poughkeepsie.
Speaker 1 (10:47):
Yeah. And some people want big government out of their lives.
I want big government in my life more. I want
more projects for public car I want more projects for
young people, more projects for healthcare.
Speaker 3 (11:02):
You're listening to Pete and the poet Gold.
Speaker 2 (11:04):
I'm Uncle Mike, I'm Poet Gold, and I'm Peter Leon.
Speaker 1 (11:09):
Thank god we have Uncle Mike. Job is to watch
the clock.
Speaker 2 (11:13):
And tell me the point Gold, the least.
Speaker 3 (11:18):
To You've got your brother. We're gonna take care of
you of this show. But Gold, You've got some stuff
coming up there this summer, right, Don't you have a
show coming up? Yeah? I do.
Speaker 2 (11:27):
Actually I'm gonna be at June twelfth at Park Theater
in the Hudson in Hudson, New York, and it's it's
a really quaint uh theater, lounge and cocktail bar. And
the last time we were there it was a packed
house and they asked they asked me to come back.
So I'm looking forward to it. There are tickets on sale.
(11:49):
If you go to Park Theater their website, you can
navigate your way to to the ticket sales. Very reasonably priced.
I think the venue probably holds maybe one hundred and
fifty people. So I would say, get your tickets early.
Speaker 3 (12:03):
What's what? What are you what are you going to do?
What's the show all about it?
Speaker 2 (12:06):
It's a good question, Uncle May thank you. It's it's
I'm still on tour with my book be the poem
Living Beyond Our Fears, and so I have a band,
a really wonderful group of musicians accompanying me. GW Gwyn
Least on viola, Damon Banks on bass, Angel Lao on drums,
the Mavor family on on background vocals, and Tim rigusis
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on keyboards. And so it's I'm supported by a group
of very talented individual who all have their pedigree. I'm
a lucky woman because these artists like tour with major
people you know, around the country, and the world, and
so I always feel blessed the fact that they go, yeah,
we're going to play with you, you know, and so you're
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going to be a great show before yes, yes, yes, yeah, yeah,
yea yeah. Well they're with me on the tour. Yeah,
they're with me on the tour.
Speaker 1 (12:57):
It's great.
Speaker 2 (12:58):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (12:58):
So there's a familiar and there's a comfort level.
Speaker 2 (13:01):
But absolutely absolutely one.
Speaker 1 (13:03):
Lasser is a good example. We've had her on the
show of somebody who has played with real big time names,
and she's a jazz violin us, which I actually didn't
know existed, and but you know, she when she was
I remember her having a very good story about her
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upbringing in Detroit, where the public school system there really
emphasized arts, especially in music, and an awful lot of
good musically came out of Detroit, you know. But she's
played with people. Do you have any recollections of some
of the people she played with.
Speaker 2 (13:47):
I know, I believe she's played with Beyonce. I believe
she's played at the inauguration for President Obama, or she
at least it wasn't the inauguration. She played at one
of his events, you know as well. I mean, she's
she's you know she has. I worked on her with
an album called I Think It's the Black Lives Matter Sweet,
I forgot the name of the album. But I worked
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on a piece called the Newburgh Four, which was about
four members in Newburgh that were allegedly set up by
the FBI members you know at the time and since
then they were arrested but exonerated, released and they were
trap They were trapped, right right. I think the name
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of the piece is actually called Entrapman. Yeah, yeah, the
name of the piece is called Entrapman. So yeah, Gwen
is very, very talented and I enjoyed working with her.
Speaker 1 (14:40):
But the Newburgh Fourth were accues of planning to bow
up a synagogue and yet with the FBI was overly
aggressive in terms of talking them into a plan. And
at least one of the guys, I think more than
one has developmental disability. Yes, so that you know, it
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was really sometimes law enforcement can get over enthusiastic and
they believing their own plots, and that was an unfortunate
sort of thing there.
Speaker 3 (15:15):
But it's interesting we were talking about musicians. Over the years,
I've been involved with several that one in particular from
Cincinnati grew up in Cincinnati, and he was very he
became very famous, and he made it very clear that
music in high school kept him from becoming from the streets.
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It saved him. He would have been another statistics. He's
adamant about it if I had not gotten involved in music.
So I was involved with the label for a while,
and one of the goals he had was we were
going to target all year long. We were going to
target schools, and the money that we were making was
going to go to buying instruments for the schools because
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he felt so many of the programs about discontinued because
they don't put any money in a budget for him anymore.
He felt that it saved his life. And here that's
how he wanted to get back. And he had three
or four schools where you know, we were talking several
thousand dollars that he was going to go buy instruments
give them to the school, so the students had instruments, right.
But he was adamant that that saved his life. Music
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saved his life.
Speaker 2 (16:19):
Yeah, I mean, and that's I think that's across the board,
you know, with with the arts in general, sometimes students
learn differently, you know, and and you can teach you know,
basic uh schooling and education through the arts. It's called
art and education integration, you know, and you can you
can use arts in order to attract that that person
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who may not see things as linear. But if you
ask them to draw out what you're trying to convey
to them, they were able to draw it out, or
they're able to write the song or they're able to
come up with the melody to convey what it is
that you're trying to get across. I mean, it's it's
it's really pretty amazing.
Speaker 1 (16:58):
And besides that, so it uses up a lot of time.
And when you're a teenager or a human being, you
need a lot of time used up. So athletics is
a similar thing. You know. Athletics is very good for
communities for a number of reasons, but and it's good
for individual kids with a few excel at athletics. You're
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on a team, you're going to be preoccupied. You don't
have time as much time.
Speaker 3 (17:25):
You get in trouble and you're part of something.
Speaker 1 (17:27):
You're part of something that's right.
Speaker 3 (17:29):
Key part of it is something bigger than yourself. Absolutely,
and it's interesting, you know, the famous saying about idle
time is you know, works for the devil.
Speaker 2 (17:38):
I forgot it right, right like that.
Speaker 3 (17:41):
That's that's when the devil does his best work. When
you have idle.
Speaker 1 (17:43):
Time, idle time, it's the devil works on.
Speaker 3 (17:48):
But yeah, through the years, there's been so many musicians
that I run into that say, you know that music
saved them that they would have not have had the
not not they had a guy, they had a town.
But yeah, they'd not gotten involved at an early age,
it would have gone in a completely different direction, and
not a good direction because what was around him at
the time wasn't going you know, in Cincinnati. You know,
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Cincinnati was a tough city too for a long time,
and when he grew up, the streets of Cincinnati were
not a great place to be a kid. But he
found music and it saved him.
Speaker 2 (18:20):
And like and like your associate, you know, you know,
gwinn Laster also gives back, you know, through through her
educational programming that so she takes that and being a
sort of like pop artist or things that she's participated
in and working with Alicia Keys or as a as
a as a supporting musician or jay Z as a
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supporting musician. All those experiences. Uh, you know, it takes
that and translate that into her community of students.
Speaker 1 (18:49):
Yeah, and it's exciting for anybody. I love the fact
that she has played with famous people. It just makes
the whole world feel more connected, and you know the
way connects it to Lesia Keys through Gwen Glass there
on a personal level.
Speaker 3 (19:08):
There's there's a video out there right now on the
social media with jelly Roll and I happened to be
a big fan of jelly Roll. But it's a middle
school choir that the gentleman who is running the teaching
the program is very high on a real world experience
for the kids. So he taught them the song I
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Am Not Okay, which jelly Roll had a big hit with,
and they sent him a recording of them saying, and
Jelly Roll was so blown away. He brought them on
the stage of the Grand Old Opry to perform with him.
And if we get a chance to watch that, it's
a moving video. He he tries. He lost it a
couple of times because the kids were so exuberant, you know,
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but to think about that, to bring them out on
the stage of the Grand Old Opry and say, I
was so moved by this. I had to bring them here.
It's just it's quite and he does a lot of that.
It's very community minded. But things like that are happening
and it's good to see it again. Back to the
whole point we're talking about, we've got to get the
youth involved. We've got to get them back in the
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mainstream here, because that's our only hope. It really is
what Peter, you and I are over the hill. Okay,
we've done all week and you're behind us, but still
done a lot already. But we've got to instill in
these kids that they can't give up and they need
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to be involved and they need to be able to
help other people.
Speaker 2 (20:37):
Yeah, and I can't believe that I'm going. I'm going
to say this, and they need to put the phones
down sometimes, sure, you know, I mean, just everybody does
you know? Just I was I was teasing a friend
of mine who's one vacation and they were posting, and
I said, well why are you posting? I text and
I was like, get off the phone. You know, enjoy
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be present for your vacation. If you're just tuning in,
you're listening to finding out with Pete and the poet
Gold and I'm the poet Gold. Then we also have
uncle Micaus.
Speaker 3 (21:07):
We did glad to be here and the discussion we're
having is fascinating. As always, we only have a half
hour to do it and we always run out of time.
But Poughkeepsie has so much to offer all year round,
I think, but in the summertime, especially between the waterfront
and the parks that we have and some of the
concerts and the parks that they put together. Yes, and
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Gold and I were at a meeting before we did
this show, which is going to involve talent here in
the Hudson Valley, young local talent on the way up,
which there's going to be an announcement soon about it,
but that is something we're Gold wrote over here with
me from the meeting and we both were saying, how
much talent there is here in this area, Dutchess County,
the Hudson Valley, I mean, great talent that should be
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showcased across the country, and we're going to try to
help that happen.
Speaker 2 (21:52):
Absolutely.
Speaker 3 (21:53):
It's just amazing how much is here. And every day
I run into some more talent.
Speaker 2 (21:59):
Yeah, I've found that out when I started doing the
open mic, you know, and I was like, this is
I felt, you know, at one point of me, I
felt very selfish because I said, this is like I'm
the luckiest woman. I get to stand here and all
this talent comes through and I get to take it
in and enjoy it. And on the other hand, it
may make me hungry to want to create more opportunities,
you know, for people to be able to expose their
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their work to you know, to public and to public venues.
Speaker 1 (22:24):
Both of you know the names and this better than
I would. But just you're going to last the story
a better Growing up in Detroit, I mean it can't.
You know, when you saw a motown, you know, the
the music is very very yes, and a pride. You know,
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it's private and surprise and but people within you know,
six Pac Radius like Smoky Robinson and the Supreme.
Speaker 2 (22:55):
I think she's played behind him as well in the
situation prought him up.
Speaker 3 (23:00):
You know, I'm sure you've experienced the gold. What I
find fascinating is when you come across the young talent,
you know, they sing, you hear them saying, and you're
you're blown away when you hear them sing and they
don't know how good they are. They've been doing that
most of they opened their mouth and they could sing,
and they just thought that was natural. And you'd be like,
what do you realize what kind of force you have?
Gift you have? And that's where I guess that's where
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we can come in, where we can take a hoole
and say, listen, you really have a gift here and
you need to work at this because it's gonna it's
going to be something amazing. But I've shocked sometimes people
just have no idea how talent that they are.
Speaker 2 (23:34):
Right, right, right, it is. It is so true or
even you know, you can kind of see it, you know,
you really you feel it, and and and and it's
it's like an aura that that some people have and
you know that they that they have that and talent.
Speaker 3 (23:50):
Is so much, you know, whatever genre you want to
talk about, whether it's it's a spoken word like you do,
or but they have a gift. But it's just it's
amazing sometimes that that where they come from. And people
that you run into and you're like, have no idea.
You know, we have somebody that works here, Jeff Simansk
who works here. He's he's fun. Size is the way
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I describe him. But when he opens his mouth and
starts singing the first time, I was blown away. That
can't be I'm saying to myself, that can't be him,
saying somebody behind them, but it's him.
Speaker 2 (24:25):
Wow.
Speaker 3 (24:26):
And there's other people that i've I've I've come across
that all of a sudden, they just have this desert
by King who works for MS. Yes time I ever
worked with her, she was doing an anthem and I
was trying to get her set up, and I had
her with a microphone and everything, and she doesn't need
a microphone, I said, I don't. Voice was so powerful.
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I had to turn things down because she was so powerful.
Speaker 2 (24:49):
Yeah, she has a gifted voice. I've I've featured her
in some of the things that I've done when I
put some showcases together.
Speaker 1 (24:57):
Well. Underlying what Mike was saying before, the talent is around, okay,
whether it's you know, motown music coming out of Detroit,
you know, sixty years ago, or something that happened Poughkeepsie.
But I want to emphasize what Mike said, it's up
to the adults to see it, discover it, and develop it.
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And in other words, the kids can't see it because
it's them. It's tweez it's too and you know, so
we talk very often about kids saying, you know, the
kids are all future, as if all the responsibility is
on the kids, and I want to say the adults
are all present, you damn well better spending time developing
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or educating the young people, whether it's especially talented athlete
or artists, which you should general run the person student
in the schools, it really counts.
Speaker 3 (25:52):
Well, it's it's it's it's amazing because children especially are
so I don't know, iive is not the right word,
but innocent. They just have no idea. And yeah, I
think it is our job and selfishly I do it
all the time because I know we don't have. Our
future is really dim if these children don't step up
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absolutely and become the people we know they can become,
because you know, let's face it, the we're not in
a good time right now, and the people who are
running things we're not in a good time with them either,
and a lot of them have been running it for
a long time, yes, and not making any progress where
it's time for that next generation to say move over
and let us see what we can.
Speaker 2 (26:35):
Do right, right right and expand our humanity, you know,
you know, we as humans. This is just my lived
experience in my perspective, are barely scratching the surface of
I believe of what it means to be human, you know.
And our spirituality it separates us from lower energy or
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lower forms of of of animals. And we are an animal,
you know. And so but we were giving the potential
of something to be something greater and uh, and where
we are now is an example of how miserably we're
feeling at being human. The spirituality of being human and
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what that what that all means.
Speaker 1 (27:23):
And the spirituality often comes in the form of just
what we calls called education. So I mean I both
gone goal and I have been paid as educators right
might never have been paid us in educated. But when
we bring students to the studio, they gravitate towards Mike
and they just drink it from them and you don't
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even know you're doing it. And I mean like it's
not like you say, boy, do you really needs to
be developed? You just have a natural symbiotic relationship with them.
And you know, adult time, some adult time. I've been paid,
I've been that successful, But how do you collected the check?
Speaker 3 (28:06):
We're going to run out of time as usual, but
you know it's We'll were talking about education before in
teachers and I remember Peter and I used to be
part of a talk show where during the years when
the Board of Education would come up for election, we
would have people in who were running. My first question was,
I'd like to know what your job What do you
think the job description is? And none of them came
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up with the students, that the students were the most
important part of the job. And I was flabbergasted. I'm like,
that's what this is all about, you know. And all
the teachers that we met over the years, Peter, every
teacher that I had a chance to really have a
chat with it, they said, you don't understand. Our job
is to teach kids how to learn. Not about geography,
not about mathematics, not about English. We need to teach
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them how to learn. If they learn how to learn,
the world is unlimited for But if they don't get
that ability, reading is a big part of it. But
if they don't know how to learn, they're never going
to be able to do anything. I never forgot that.
Many teachers told me.
Speaker 1 (29:05):
That it's curiosity unless you care about learning. And I'm
going to.
Speaker 2 (29:09):
Learn right right, and that loves that ability to critically
think things out, which goes back to you know, I
want to teach them how to learn. Yeah, yeah, And that's.
Speaker 1 (29:17):
Why we did Horvey Flat, who is bringing his book
out on eleventh, right, eleventh on Thursday. Horvey's got the
four hundred page history of Poughkeepsie frames and you want
to be there at forty Cannon's Reach to see Horvey
for his launch of the book.
Speaker 2 (29:35):
Absolutely, there's a lot going to happen here in Poughkeepsie.
Speaker 3 (29:39):
Once again, you got a lot more to talk about.
I'm proud of you made it through the show, Peter.
I'm a little worried about you.
Speaker 1 (29:45):
I got off my seat and I was able to
stumble through. So thank you for noticing.
Speaker 2 (29:50):
Well, we're glad you here. Glad you made it and
feel better all right. Thank you to our listeners and
finding out with Pete and the poet go. We appreciate it.
The views and opinions expressed in the following programmer those
of the speaker and don't necessarily represent those of the
station it's staff, management or ownership. Good morning, you'll find
me out with Pete and the Poet Cold.
Speaker 2 (00:13):
I'm Peter Leonard and I'm the poet Gold, and we're
on the.
Speaker 1 (00:16):
Air with each other, and Uncle Micha is gonna pitch
in talking about it some summer and Poughkeepsie. And before
we get to that, we're gonna go right to the
Poet Cold for her weekly original prayer poem incantation Gold,
Please got it roll?
Speaker 2 (00:32):
Okay, today I'm going to do Behind the veil, there
are mirrors, doors, layers, reflections of our lives, bits and pieces, thoughts,
silence turned into rumbles, mini quakes. Deep in the soul
hidden behind the veil, there's so much to say, Prolonged
whispers like wind in the night, we can't ignore, deafening
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cracking the landscape behind the veil. No one notices, but
you complicit in one's own absence. Words we never dare
speak become descending tears seeping into the corner of our mouths,
leaving crystals on our tongue. Tiny little cubes, perhaps abandoned,
dissolved or transformed.
Speaker 1 (01:11):
Wow, it's very visual, yeah man in Germans of visual
things called this is not a poem, but it's a
mere observation. What's going on right now, Right outside that
window with Iheart's studio here in Poughkeepsie is a beautiful
field of clover. And on that culver there are five
big geese and those geese are parading around munching on
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the clover. And to me, that's a sign that we're
going to have a great Poughkeepsie because clover is my
favorite flower. Because every one of the clovers looks to
me like a galaxy, and it reminds me that God
must have just taken things, just thrown galaxies out into
the universe. Yeah, and and then God also put the
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he said, moncharm and enjoy them one at a time.
Speaker 2 (02:05):
I guess have that full circle of life moment, you know, with.
Speaker 1 (02:08):
Clover and Poughkeepsie is a very beautiful thing.
Speaker 2 (02:11):
And clover, like you your Irish, just sent right, you're Irish? Okay,
So isn't there something between clovers and.
Speaker 1 (02:19):
Rocks?
Speaker 2 (02:20):
Shamrock?
Speaker 1 (02:20):
It was your full clover.
Speaker 2 (02:22):
But it's a Clover right, it's.
Speaker 1 (02:24):
You know, but I'm telling me a beautiful white star
like celestial clover. And you see bunches of them around
and every one of them looks to me like God
through it. There as a way of saying, and you
should see the other stuff I've done with the universe.
Speaker 3 (02:42):
So everybody understands Peter is not feeling well. I think
he may have a he's he's here, he's a trooper.
He's going to get through the show.
Speaker 2 (02:51):
Absolutely, and it's and it's actually, Peter, the first time
that you've actually sat in the years that we've been
together in a show, and so the visual you know,
you've never been in that position where the mic is
and looking at facing the window and seeing all the
glory out there.
Speaker 1 (03:09):
Yeah. Yeah, I like to stand up and she shows
you and I'm on the radio because it just frees
me up. I'm not I'm not inhibiting any vital consciousness.
You know, I don't talk out of my brain. I'm
sitting down. I think I'm suppressing some thought.
Speaker 2 (03:30):
Got you Okay, alrighty okay, But thank you Peter for
sharing it. Actually that was very quite beautiful. I think
you know, the whole image and that you know, the
galaxy and the orbits, and it's just Poughkeepsie, though.
Speaker 3 (03:46):
I didn't want to bring up if you hear a
couple of gunshots, it might be the geese.
Speaker 1 (03:49):
So no longer. And because it's Poughkeepsie makes me more
beautiful sense. Yeah, it's an ordinary world that we live in.
Speaker 2 (04:04):
And then I'm gonna push back on that, Uncle Mike.
There's not a lot of gunshots in Poughkeepsie. Itots yeah, yeah,
just like everyplace else.
Speaker 3 (04:13):
You know.
Speaker 2 (04:14):
No, it's true. I mean, listen, you know, there's a
lot of a lot of gunshots in a lot of places.
Speaker 3 (04:19):
Actually, we're going to talk about Poughkeepsie in the summers.
We're going to talk about and all of us in
this room especially have such high hopes for Poughkeepsie. I
know I do. I think Poughkeepsie is really on the
verge if finally turning the corner. You know, we had
Harvey on with his book of the Main Streets the
Main Frames, which I still need. I'm going to read
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that because it's fascinating to me when he did. But
we're all so hopeful and there is a lot of
great things happening we come into the summertime here in Poughkeepsie,
there's a lot of great festivals. There's a lot of
things going on here that are really starting to show
signs of the rebirth of Poughkeepsie. And we have to
hope it keeps happening because that's the direction we all
wanted to go.
Speaker 2 (04:57):
In, right and I believe you, Poughkeepsie we were one
of the recipients of the d ri I development, you know,
grants and substantial amount of money. Well it's beyond beyond
his organization, but it's you know, there're the Chai Chai
Builders have invested largely in the city of Poughkeepsie and
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and with the dri I money, there's going to be
some significant things taking place, like the Market Street becoming
two way. Uh. That's that's a project that's going to
be taking place. But six hundred thousand was awarded to
Community Matters to to build with the Chi builders for
the Catherine Street. Uh, that's going to be a project
is going to be worked on. And then there's some
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buildings on Main Street through tried developers that that are
going to apartment buildings and the Wallace Center. You know,
it's so there's a lot of really exciting things that
that's going to be happening moving forward. And I'm happy
to know that Main Street itself is the in a
fisiary of of some of these positive things that are
going to be taking place.
Speaker 3 (06:04):
Yeah, I mean there's so much potential. We've talked about
it on a lot of shows. There's so much potential here.
I mean because the train station here is the biggest
hub for everything because it brings people in from all
over the Poughkeepsie. I mean when you look at Beacon
and what happened down there, the transformation down there is
it's a miracle. What's happened down there, And Beacon is
a thriving city now and you go there on a
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Saturday or Sunday, you wouldn't even know you were in
Beacon anymore. Yeah, And that's going to happen here right right,
It's just a matter of time because there's even more
potential here.
Speaker 2 (06:33):
I think we oh absolutely. I always like to say
it's it's the it's the last stop on the Metro North,
but the first place you want to be. Oh yeah
you like that? Yeah, no, better copyright that is going
to grab that one that.
Speaker 1 (06:50):
You know you brushed by a couple of things here
on Gold but yeah, with the grant, you know, having
most people go two ways one thing, but from the
youth development side, you want to because that's an area
you know, really well if you give us a sense
of what's possible on that you mentioned Catherine Street the
building right, Community matterge too, and Real Skills I'm sure
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we'll be in the middle of that too.
Speaker 2 (07:13):
Well, you know, we're working on another location, you know,
so as a youth organization at Real Skills. But community
matters to is Lekete, the executive director, has great vision,
you know, and and tenacity and and dedication you know
to the work with serving the children of Poughkeepsie, And
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so I was really happy to see him get that award,
to see community matters, to get that award and and
reactivate the Catherine Street building because you know, for some
time now it hasn't been in use and so and
it was a place for students, you know, for children,
and so to see it revitalize as part of the
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downtime Revitalation initiative is exciting.
Speaker 1 (07:57):
Canther was found there in nineteen twenty one, which is
over one hundred years ago, and I guess it's stopped
having programming, you know, maybe five years ago or something. Yeah,
And so the building is there, and you know it
has the spirits of past dedication because students, people who
are in the count Street program and that was adults,
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have very fond memories of it and are very positive
towards what happened to them as kids there. In terms
of being encouraged.
Speaker 3 (08:30):
Well, you know, everything we talk about all the different
organizations I'm involved with, the children are our only hope
at this point. The children are a future. And if
we don't start educating them better and in some cases
teach them the history that they're not getting, they're going
to make the same mistakes right, and we can't have that.
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We're at a point now at our civilization where we've
got to we've got to turn the corner here. At
some point, things have got to start getting more positive
and we've got to start going back to treating people
the way, you know, treat some of the way you
want to be treated. That whole mentality is gone for
a long time. And if we can instill add in
the kids today, we've got a chance, because they're going
to grow up to your point, Peter, that those kids
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that grew up in the Catharine Street that was so
successful and so thriving, they're adults now and hopefully they're
going to instill When this is redeveloped, they'll have their
kids be part of that and start that cycle all
over again. But you break that cycle, boy, it's hard
to get it going again.
Speaker 2 (09:31):
It's hard.
Speaker 1 (09:32):
And part of the difficulty is, you know, structurally having
the buildings, having the funding, but it's also finding the leader.
And it's can't say Taylor, who's been on the show
with us several times. He's somebody who is easy to
believe in. You know, he's a guy who carries himself
with a quiet dignity. And when you mentioned he has,
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you know, some vision that's for real, you can pick
that up. To have government money you get behind that
is really just a good government too good people, but
you also need good government.
Speaker 2 (10:11):
Yeah, So it's so it's it's it's a good it's
a good uh project. I think I think Poughkeepsie has
been overdue and so it's it's nice to know that.
I think it's worth ten million dollars or something like
that coming into Was it ten million, uh that we're
going to be awarded. Yeah, I think it is ten million,
and and and the projects that are all going to
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manifest out of it, there's uh, I think three hundred
and fifty thousand going towards public art programs, you know,
as well for the arts community. So I think it's
a it's a win for for a lot of people,
for a lot of organizations to win for the community
and and for Poughkeepsie.
Speaker 1 (10:47):
Yeah. And some people want big government out of their lives.
I want big government in my life more. I want
more projects for public car I want more projects for
young people, more projects for healthcare.
Speaker 3 (11:02):
You're listening to Pete and the poet Gold.
Speaker 2 (11:04):
I'm Uncle Mike, I'm Poet Gold, and I'm Peter Leon.
Speaker 1 (11:09):
Thank god we have Uncle Mike. Job is to watch
the clock.
Speaker 2 (11:13):
And tell me the point Gold, the least.
Speaker 3 (11:18):
To You've got your brother. We're gonna take care of
you of this show. But Gold, You've got some stuff
coming up there this summer, right, Don't you have a
show coming up? Yeah? I do.
Speaker 2 (11:27):
Actually I'm gonna be at June twelfth at Park Theater
in the Hudson in Hudson, New York, and it's it's
a really quaint uh theater, lounge and cocktail bar. And
the last time we were there it was a packed
house and they asked they asked me to come back.
So I'm looking forward to it. There are tickets on sale.
(11:49):
If you go to Park Theater their website, you can
navigate your way to to the ticket sales. Very reasonably priced.
I think the venue probably holds maybe one hundred and
fifty people. So I would say, get your tickets early.
Speaker 3 (12:03):
What's what? What are you what are you going to do?
What's the show all about it?
Speaker 2 (12:06):
It's a good question, Uncle May thank you. It's it's
I'm still on tour with my book be the poem
Living Beyond Our Fears, and so I have a band,
a really wonderful group of musicians accompanying me. GW Gwyn
Least on viola, Damon Banks on bass, Angel Lao on drums,
the Mavor family on on background vocals, and Tim rigusis
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on keyboards. And so it's I'm supported by a group
of very talented individual who all have their pedigree. I'm
a lucky woman because these artists like tour with major
people you know, around the country, and the world, and
so I always feel blessed the fact that they go, yeah,
we're going to play with you, you know, and so you're
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going to be a great show before yes, yes, yes, yeah, yeah,
yea yeah. Well they're with me on the tour. Yeah,
they're with me on the tour.
Speaker 1 (12:57):
It's great.
Speaker 2 (12:58):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (12:58):
So there's a familiar and there's a comfort level.
Speaker 2 (13:01):
But absolutely absolutely one.
Speaker 1 (13:03):
Lasser is a good example. We've had her on the
show of somebody who has played with real big time names,
and she's a jazz violin us, which I actually didn't
know existed, and but you know, she when she was
I remember her having a very good story about her
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upbringing in Detroit, where the public school system there really
emphasized arts, especially in music, and an awful lot of
good musically came out of Detroit, you know. But she's
played with people. Do you have any recollections of some
of the people she played with.
Speaker 2 (13:47):
I know, I believe she's played with Beyonce. I believe
she's played at the inauguration for President Obama, or she
at least it wasn't the inauguration. She played at one
of his events, you know as well. I mean, she's
she's you know she has. I worked on her with
an album called I Think It's the Black Lives Matter Sweet,
I forgot the name of the album. But I worked
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on a piece called the Newburgh Four, which was about
four members in Newburgh that were allegedly set up by
the FBI members you know at the time and since
then they were arrested but exonerated, released and they were
trap They were trapped, right right. I think the name
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of the piece is actually called Entrapman. Yeah, yeah, the
name of the piece is called Entrapman. So yeah, Gwen
is very, very talented and I enjoyed working with her.
Speaker 1 (14:40):
But the Newburgh Fourth were accues of planning to bow
up a synagogue and yet with the FBI was overly
aggressive in terms of talking them into a plan. And
at least one of the guys, I think more than
one has developmental disability. Yes, so that you know, it
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was really sometimes law enforcement can get over enthusiastic and
they believing their own plots, and that was an unfortunate
sort of thing there.
Speaker 3 (15:15):
But it's interesting we were talking about musicians. Over the years,
I've been involved with several that one in particular from
Cincinnati grew up in Cincinnati, and he was very he
became very famous, and he made it very clear that
music in high school kept him from becoming from the streets.
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It saved him. He would have been another statistics. He's
adamant about it if I had not gotten involved in music.
So I was involved with the label for a while,
and one of the goals he had was we were
going to target all year long. We were going to
target schools, and the money that we were making was
going to go to buying instruments for the schools because
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he felt so many of the programs about discontinued because
they don't put any money in a budget for him anymore.
He felt that it saved his life. And here that's
how he wanted to get back. And he had three
or four schools where you know, we were talking several
thousand dollars that he was going to go buy instruments
give them to the school, so the students had instruments, right.
But he was adamant that that saved his life. Music
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saved his life.
Speaker 2 (16:19):
Yeah, I mean, and that's I think that's across the board,
you know, with with the arts in general, sometimes students
learn differently, you know, and and you can teach you know,
basic uh schooling and education through the arts. It's called
art and education integration, you know, and you can you
can use arts in order to attract that that person
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who may not see things as linear. But if you
ask them to draw out what you're trying to convey
to them, they were able to draw it out, or
they're able to write the song or they're able to
come up with the melody to convey what it is
that you're trying to get across. I mean, it's it's
it's really pretty amazing.
Speaker 1 (16:58):
And besides that, so it uses up a lot of time.
And when you're a teenager or a human being, you
need a lot of time used up. So athletics is
a similar thing. You know. Athletics is very good for
communities for a number of reasons, but and it's good
for individual kids with a few excel at athletics. You're
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on a team, you're going to be preoccupied. You don't
have time as much time.
Speaker 3 (17:25):
You get in trouble and you're part of something.
Speaker 1 (17:27):
You're part of something that's right.
Speaker 3 (17:29):
Key part of it is something bigger than yourself. Absolutely,
and it's interesting, you know, the famous saying about idle
time is you know, works for the devil.
Speaker 2 (17:38):
I forgot it right, right like that.
Speaker 3 (17:41):
That's that's when the devil does his best work. When
you have idle.
Speaker 1 (17:43):
Time, idle time, it's the devil works on.
Speaker 3 (17:48):
But yeah, through the years, there's been so many musicians
that I run into that say, you know that music
saved them that they would have not have had the
not not they had a guy, they had a town.
But yeah, they'd not gotten involved at an early age,
it would have gone in a completely different direction, and
not a good direction because what was around him at
the time wasn't going you know, in Cincinnati. You know,
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Cincinnati was a tough city too for a long time,
and when he grew up, the streets of Cincinnati were
not a great place to be a kid. But he
found music and it saved him.
Speaker 2 (18:20):
And like and like your associate, you know, you know,
gwinn Laster also gives back, you know, through through her
educational programming that so she takes that and being a
sort of like pop artist or things that she's participated
in and working with Alicia Keys or as a as
a as a supporting musician or jay Z as a
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supporting musician. All those experiences. Uh, you know, it takes
that and translate that into her community of students.
Speaker 1 (18:49):
Yeah, and it's exciting for anybody. I love the fact
that she has played with famous people. It just makes
the whole world feel more connected, and you know the
way connects it to Lesia Keys through Gwen Glass there
on a personal level.
Speaker 3 (19:08):
There's there's a video out there right now on the
social media with jelly Roll and I happened to be
a big fan of jelly Roll. But it's a middle
school choir that the gentleman who is running the teaching
the program is very high on a real world experience
for the kids. So he taught them the song I
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Am Not Okay, which jelly Roll had a big hit with,
and they sent him a recording of them saying, and
Jelly Roll was so blown away. He brought them on
the stage of the Grand Old Opry to perform with him.
And if we get a chance to watch that, it's
a moving video. He he tries. He lost it a
couple of times because the kids were so exuberant, you know,
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but to think about that, to bring them out on
the stage of the Grand Old Opry and say, I
was so moved by this. I had to bring them here.
It's just it's quite and he does a lot of that.
It's very community minded. But things like that are happening
and it's good to see it again. Back to the
whole point we're talking about, we've got to get the
youth involved. We've got to get them back in the
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mainstream here, because that's our only hope. It really is
what Peter, you and I are over the hill. Okay,
we've done all week and you're behind us, but still
done a lot already. But we've got to instill in
these kids that they can't give up and they need
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to be involved and they need to be able to
help other people.
Speaker 2 (20:37):
Yeah, and I can't believe that I'm going. I'm going
to say this, and they need to put the phones
down sometimes, sure, you know, I mean, just everybody does
you know? Just I was I was teasing a friend
of mine who's one vacation and they were posting, and
I said, well why are you posting? I text and
I was like, get off the phone. You know, enjoy
(20:59):
be present for your vacation. If you're just tuning in,
you're listening to finding out with Pete and the poet
Gold and I'm the poet Gold. Then we also have
uncle Micaus.
Speaker 3 (21:07):
We did glad to be here and the discussion we're
having is fascinating. As always, we only have a half
hour to do it and we always run out of time.
But Poughkeepsie has so much to offer all year round,
I think, but in the summertime, especially between the waterfront
and the parks that we have and some of the
concerts and the parks that they put together. Yes, and
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Gold and I were at a meeting before we did
this show, which is going to involve talent here in
the Hudson Valley, young local talent on the way up,
which there's going to be an announcement soon about it,
but that is something we're Gold wrote over here with
me from the meeting and we both were saying, how
much talent there is here in this area, Dutchess County,
the Hudson Valley, I mean, great talent that should be
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showcased across the country, and we're going to try to
help that happen.
Speaker 2 (21:52):
Absolutely.
Speaker 3 (21:53):
It's just amazing how much is here. And every day
I run into some more talent.
Speaker 2 (21:59):
Yeah, I've found that out when I started doing the
open mic, you know, and I was like, this is
I felt, you know, at one point of me, I
felt very selfish because I said, this is like I'm
the luckiest woman. I get to stand here and all
this talent comes through and I get to take it
in and enjoy it. And on the other hand, it
may make me hungry to want to create more opportunities,
you know, for people to be able to expose their
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their work to you know, to public and to public venues.
Speaker 1 (22:24):
Both of you know the names and this better than
I would. But just you're going to last the story
a better Growing up in Detroit, I mean it can't.
You know, when you saw a motown, you know, the
the music is very very yes, and a pride. You know,
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it's private and surprise and but people within you know,
six Pac Radius like Smoky Robinson and the Supreme.
Speaker 2 (22:55):
I think she's played behind him as well in the
situation prought him up.
Speaker 3 (23:00):
You know, I'm sure you've experienced the gold. What I
find fascinating is when you come across the young talent,
you know, they sing, you hear them saying, and you're
you're blown away when you hear them sing and they
don't know how good they are. They've been doing that
most of they opened their mouth and they could sing,
and they just thought that was natural. And you'd be like,
what do you realize what kind of force you have?
Gift you have? And that's where I guess that's where
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we can come in, where we can take a hoole
and say, listen, you really have a gift here and
you need to work at this because it's gonna it's
going to be something amazing. But I've shocked sometimes people
just have no idea how talent that they are.
Speaker 2 (23:34):
Right, right, right, it is. It is so true or
even you know, you can kind of see it, you know,
you really you feel it, and and and and it's
it's like an aura that that some people have and
you know that they that they have that and talent.
Speaker 3 (23:50):
Is so much, you know, whatever genre you want to
talk about, whether it's it's a spoken word like you do,
or but they have a gift. But it's just it's
amazing sometimes that that where they come from. And people
that you run into and you're like, have no idea.
You know, we have somebody that works here, Jeff Simansk
who works here. He's he's fun. Size is the way
(24:14):
I describe him. But when he opens his mouth and
starts singing the first time, I was blown away. That
can't be I'm saying to myself, that can't be him,
saying somebody behind them, but it's him.
Speaker 2 (24:25):
Wow.
Speaker 3 (24:26):
And there's other people that i've I've I've come across
that all of a sudden, they just have this desert
by King who works for MS. Yes time I ever
worked with her, she was doing an anthem and I
was trying to get her set up, and I had
her with a microphone and everything, and she doesn't need
a microphone, I said, I don't. Voice was so powerful.
(24:47):
I had to turn things down because she was so powerful.
Speaker 2 (24:49):
Yeah, she has a gifted voice. I've I've featured her
in some of the things that I've done when I
put some showcases together.
Speaker 1 (24:57):
Well. Underlying what Mike was saying before, the talent is around, okay,
whether it's you know, motown music coming out of Detroit,
you know, sixty years ago, or something that happened Poughkeepsie.
But I want to emphasize what Mike said, it's up
to the adults to see it, discover it, and develop it.
(25:18):
And in other words, the kids can't see it because
it's them. It's tweez it's too and you know, so
we talk very often about kids saying, you know, the
kids are all future, as if all the responsibility is
on the kids, and I want to say the adults
are all present, you damn well better spending time developing
(25:40):
or educating the young people, whether it's especially talented athlete
or artists, which you should general run the person student
in the schools, it really counts.
Speaker 3 (25:52):
Well, it's it's it's it's amazing because children especially are
so I don't know, iive is not the right word,
but innocent. They just have no idea. And yeah, I
think it is our job and selfishly I do it
all the time because I know we don't have. Our
future is really dim if these children don't step up
(26:15):
absolutely and become the people we know they can become,
because you know, let's face it, the we're not in
a good time right now, and the people who are
running things we're not in a good time with them either,
and a lot of them have been running it for
a long time, yes, and not making any progress where
it's time for that next generation to say move over
and let us see what we can.
Speaker 2 (26:35):
Do right, right right and expand our humanity, you know,
you know, we as humans. This is just my lived
experience in my perspective, are barely scratching the surface of
I believe of what it means to be human, you know.
And our spirituality it separates us from lower energy or
(26:58):
lower forms of of of animals. And we are an animal,
you know. And so but we were giving the potential
of something to be something greater and uh, and where
we are now is an example of how miserably we're
feeling at being human. The spirituality of being human and
(27:21):
what that what that all means.
Speaker 1 (27:23):
And the spirituality often comes in the form of just
what we calls called education. So I mean I both
gone goal and I have been paid as educators right
might never have been paid us in educated. But when
we bring students to the studio, they gravitate towards Mike
and they just drink it from them and you don't
(27:44):
even know you're doing it. And I mean like it's
not like you say, boy, do you really needs to
be developed? You just have a natural symbiotic relationship with them.
And you know, adult time, some adult time. I've been paid,
I've been that successful, But how do you collected the check?
Speaker 3 (28:06):
We're going to run out of time as usual, but
you know it's We'll were talking about education before in
teachers and I remember Peter and I used to be
part of a talk show where during the years when
the Board of Education would come up for election, we
would have people in who were running. My first question was,
I'd like to know what your job What do you
think the job description is? And none of them came
(28:28):
up with the students, that the students were the most
important part of the job. And I was flabbergasted. I'm like,
that's what this is all about, you know. And all
the teachers that we met over the years, Peter, every
teacher that I had a chance to really have a
chat with it, they said, you don't understand. Our job
is to teach kids how to learn. Not about geography,
not about mathematics, not about English. We need to teach
(28:50):
them how to learn. If they learn how to learn,
the world is unlimited for But if they don't get
that ability, reading is a big part of it. But
if they don't know how to learn, they're never going
to be able to do anything. I never forgot that.
Many teachers told me.
Speaker 1 (29:05):
That it's curiosity unless you care about learning. And I'm
going to.
Speaker 2 (29:09):
Learn right right, and that loves that ability to critically
think things out, which goes back to you know, I
want to teach them how to learn. Yeah, yeah, And that's.
Speaker 1 (29:17):
Why we did Horvey Flat, who is bringing his book
out on eleventh, right, eleventh on Thursday. Horvey's got the
four hundred page history of Poughkeepsie frames and you want
to be there at forty Cannon's Reach to see Horvey
for his launch of the book.
Speaker 2 (29:35):
Absolutely, there's a lot going to happen here in Poughkeepsie.
Speaker 3 (29:39):
Once again, you got a lot more to talk about.
I'm proud of you made it through the show, Peter.
I'm a little worried about you.
Speaker 1 (29:45):
I got off my seat and I was able to
stumble through. So thank you for noticing.
Speaker 2 (29:50):
Well, we're glad you here. Glad you made it and
feel better all right. Thank you to our listeners and
finding out with Pete and the poet go. We appreciate it.
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