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Good morning you finding out with Pete and the Poke Old.
I'm Peter Leonard and I'm the poet Gold and we're
on the air with each other today. And before we
get through our action a spring and pickepsie, we're gonna
go right to the poet Gold for her weekly poem
prayer incantation. But today it's not one of her poems.
It's one of her stories coming from her new book,
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Be the poem.
Speaker 3 (00:32):
Yeah, Gold, let it roll, Okay, I'm going to read
Grateful Spirit. The body depreciates like a car driven off
the lot, but how you dress it up and what
you put into it brings value. Breath oxygen creates the
air to move through life, like the wheels on a
moving car with windows down on a sunny day, creating
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the wind blowing through our hair as we listen to
our favorite song, singing it out loud. We are usually
great for those moments, stirring up a sense of joy,
feeling free as if we have forever laughter. I've learned
through death, time is fleeting if we are paying attention, death,
when is up close and personal, teaches us how to
live through the presence of the morning and the grief.
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In the letting go hopefully through it all, one arrives
at gratitude for the time shared and the time left
to create a life still present to live and is
not paralyzed by the fear of mourning and the fear
of grief, discovering that each day is new, not like
the day before, and you may have the luxury of
bringing some of the old stuff you like with you
on to the new day, but it is a very
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different day. What are you truly grateful for? Beyond the
practice of the list in a gratitude book? Are you
walking living in your gratitude? Are you able to walk
away from the fight with your soul in tact or
do you need to have the last word self inflicting wound?
Speaker 2 (01:52):
Are you grateful for.
Speaker 3 (01:53):
The valleys and the lessons learned in those moments if any?
Have you ever called a friend out of the blue
and told them that you were grateful for their presence
in your life, whether it was a short or long
presence through an evolutionary process, we have been given such
a beautiful gift Earth. We did not have our hands
in its creation, but we do have our hands and
its sustainability, as we have our hands in the human connection.
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But our fears make us behave in a dominant fashion,
claiming lands, people, and destroying all forms of life humans, plants,
and animals. They hinder what I believe is the next
step in human evolution, spiritual growth. We have the potential
to become higher on the spiritual evolutionary level understanding the
intercon and connectedness of our ecosystem of life and humankind,
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and gratitude is deeply embedded in that journey through gratitude
may be considered a coping mechanism for dealing with adversity.
I am grateful for all of my experiences in life,
the good and the challenging ones, the pretty and the
unpretty ones. And you, the reader, I am grateful for
you too.
Speaker 1 (02:57):
Thank you, we amen and gold. I want to ask
you a question, and you don't have to have a
precise answer. But what you call that a story? But
it sounded very much like your poem. Okay, yeah, but
it's uh, the style is a little more complete. I
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mean the prose writing is the details, you don't have
to figure them out, but the spirit of that is
the same. And usually think of stories as having to
do with individual events, and this is.
Speaker 2 (03:34):
More human nature, human nature, more.
Speaker 1 (03:38):
Commentary on human nature. So we have a public called
as a poet, a prose writer, a commentator on human nature,
a storyteller. You got a lot of titles all of
a sudden, no, no, thank you. And we know we
have a show today where we planned to talk about
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events coming up and uh, you know, uh, we're springing Poughkeepsie,
what's going on looking towards the summer even But one
of the things I didn't anticipate in talking about until
you had the section on death there there's a person
lots of elvison as we know over the years, who
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died recently, and that's Jim Fi door Cech. And Jim
Fi Doorchech was at one point the county attorney and
he was, you know, a prominent member of the political
establishment and uh, Poughkeepsie in Dutchess County, and he died
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recently and they're having a service for him on Sunday
at one o'clock on the Sunday at Christ church in Poughkeepsie.
To anybody who's going with that for the first time
might want to show up. But he U the section
was like two years older than May. But we become
friends in the last two years. Uh and I have
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we go to breakfast. We both work out, workout exercise Michael,
I take it generally. Then we go to breakfast once
every three weeks or so. So he was again relating
to your point your story there. He was somebody I
anticipated really being friend for like and it's hard to
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make friends late in life. He was a new friend
and I was looking forward to a lot of joy
with him once He's not gonna happen. But and the
suddenness of it is one thing, but any unpredictability. But
as you points out in the story there, you know,
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death is one of the teachers.
Speaker 2 (05:52):
And it gives.
Speaker 3 (05:53):
It gives, even though it's obviously difficult for most you
know people, and the grieving process, it comes like a
tide that has its own ebbs and flows, and sometimes
you don't. I think a tide is more predictable than
than even grief is, you know.
Speaker 2 (06:10):
But but there's a value in it, you know.
Speaker 3 (06:13):
I think as you begin to embrace it and and
understand the presence that someone had in your life, you know,
and and and the value and the joy that they
did bring.
Speaker 2 (06:23):
Hopefully, you know, Jim were a lot of joy.
Speaker 1 (06:26):
And he's somebody who uh lived most of his life
as a personal very different political opinions and all that.
And in recent years our political opinions coincided much more.
But he was always you know, funny and a prominent
person in Dutchy County political life.
Speaker 2 (06:48):
And I really think I met him.
Speaker 1 (06:50):
I don't think so either. I tried to get him
on the show a couple of times. He didn't want
to be overly controversial. Was you know, when you really
switch your political opinions, you can be extra controversial. And
his opinion has changed, but his disposition did not. So
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he had what I considered a very conservative sensibility. And
it was funny because I, well, some of his opinions
were much more like mine. But a guy very smart,
opened to change, very curious about people, very good at
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simply being respectful to no matter who he ran into,
you know, at the gym and the staff there. So
it's a big deal. But Jim Fido check miss celebration
Sunday at one o'clock on chemistry and Poughkeepsie. And to
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all the people who might be learning that for the
first time, thank you for listening. And you know, yeah
it might be hard.
Speaker 2 (08:03):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (08:04):
So, and that's an event I didn't expect you to
talk about, but you mentioned death. Certainly brought that to mind.
But one of the things we.
Speaker 2 (08:15):
We attended the Mayor's Ball.
Speaker 1 (08:17):
But and that's just last week we had the Mayor's Ball,
and I will your impressions of it.
Speaker 3 (08:23):
I thought, I thought it was a wonderful gathering. You know,
you know, once again, the the the funding for the
Mayor's Ball. I got quite an education this year of
you know why it exists. You know why she continues
to do the Mayor's Ball, because other mayors have done
the Mayor's Ball. It's not just this administration's you know
thing that's been done in the past. But but Mayor
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Flowers intentionally does it to raise funds for a a
youth organization, governmental group to learn about the civic contribution
and the governmental structure. And and I thought that was
fascinating and also well needed today in communities across the board.
Speaker 2 (09:07):
Whether you're keeps you anything.
Speaker 3 (09:09):
I don't think our our kids get the education that
they need and understanding how our structures are run and
how much power they can hold within themselves. And I'm
gonna say power in a negative sense, just understanding that
the power of voice and the power of choice and
the power of education in that particular area.
Speaker 1 (09:31):
And you know, we we had many Flowers on recently
to talk about this event. Well always coming up, but
you may have on Flowers has always been focused on
young people. You know, that's there's nothing new or political
about that. But and I thought the program was really
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innovative in the sense that it's a small program and
has like ten students in it, and their design. It's designed,
as you said, teaching about government and you know, a
career in government as possible, you know, being an extra
good citizen as possible and likely. And they had several
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other students at the event talking about their experience, and
you could see young people, like almost everybody is a
little nervous talking about stuff, but the young people were
even the ones you could tell we're nervous about it,
they got through.
Speaker 3 (10:31):
It absolutely, absolutely, they stepped up to the mic and
you know, and was willing to grow through it and
you talk.
Speaker 1 (10:41):
On a microphone to a couple hundred people adults when
you were fifteen and you're talking to adults. It's an accomplishment, absolutely,
and Mayor I was of set them up to succeed
at that event. Which will you know you have a
different notion of yourself. I think if your high school
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students was also talking to adults and the adults are interested.
Speaker 2 (11:06):
And one of the other students I went.
Speaker 3 (11:10):
Last Sunday to the p k UH I don't want
to mess this up p X p k X festival.
Speaker 2 (11:19):
I'm probably messing this up.
Speaker 3 (11:20):
I'm sorry to feel the artifact that the youth put
on that attend the artifact. They have an annual festival
that that are spearheaded by by the youth, and and
it was it was a really it was a really
wonderful festival to attend. This year, their theme was the
Golden Era of hip Hop, which was which is a
different time period, uh from the eighties to the mid
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nineties of the hip hop movement and it and its
culture versus where the commercialization of hip hop, because hip
hop started at a place of storytelling and when it
became more or less commercialized. That's when it became more sexualized. Uh,
it became uh, you know, for for for some, some
strains of it became violent and so and so it's
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set up for confusion for the art form for itself
to to the listeners and uh and and for some
it became uninviting. But but for most of us, you know,
it was still all all hip hop and and still
very diverse in its voice and is a lot.
Speaker 2 (12:26):
Of good things.
Speaker 3 (12:27):
So so so their thing was the golden era of
hip hop. And we're talking about the storytelling, you know,
and and talking about how hip hop was generally used
to uplift communities and and and speak to the voice
of communities. And I think we're at a full circle
moment too with it as well.
Speaker 1 (12:45):
And well, hip hop the way it's developed and the commercialization,
which was very violent, sexualized, it gave people reason not
theing like it, you know, Uh, and it drew on
some praise people have against black people. Let's say, identify
hip hop as black music.
Speaker 3 (13:05):
Usually right, if you're just tuning in, you're listening to
Finding Out with Pete and the poet Gold and I'm
the poet Gold, and we're here today having a conversation
about local events here and poughkeepsies that we may have
attended or are going to attend to things that are
coming up. I just want to go back to your
your point about the relationship of hip hop being identified
with with black black music and the black community, and
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so there's any type of of of stereotyping that people
feel uncomfortable with. You're you're, you're accurate, you know with
with with that point, but I also point out the
people that particularly of old the generation, if you grew
up with Humphrey Bogart and James Cagney and all those
types of films and those stories, they were equally as violent.
Speaker 1 (13:49):
You know.
Speaker 3 (13:49):
They were stories that where the people carried guns and
and and and they were depicted upon some realities.
Speaker 1 (13:56):
You know, you're you and I grew with cowboy movies.
Speaker 2 (14:01):
He a cowboy without a gun.
Speaker 3 (14:03):
Right without shooting, they woot right exactly, you know, and
so and so I always found it interesting that that
when it came to hip hop, all of a sudden,
the violence seemed to be like something new, you know,
something new where you know, this is this is what
you watched all the time, but it was new and
I think to your point was because of how community
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see black people, particularly the black male.
Speaker 1 (14:26):
You know, yeah, on that I don't have. I'm not
a great reference for music. But if you look at
the song Mac the Knife, which is a very pleasant
uh song, you know, Barry Bobby Jarrenson Mack Knife. Most
people are familiar with that. That's just sorry about a
murder like a like a random murder was supposed to
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enjoy and we're on the side of the bad guy.
And you know, no, I never heard anybody criticize that, right, right, right,
But but you know, I want to I don't want
to sound want talking about it. But the Night of
the Artifacts night showing the films uh on uh the
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youth have produced over the year. That was the very
nice that Maria Mareski died. And she was a soundary
of children's Media project which eventually merged with the other
who whole organization.
Speaker 2 (15:20):
In Mill Street under but h Maria.
Speaker 1 (15:26):
Was one who founded children's media projects and did all
the stuff with the very heavy emphasis on youth producing movies,
uh film and with the one eye towards professional stuff,
you eye towards just knowing another art. But Maria Moreski,
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UH died. Uh uh, you know recently two weeks ago.
And yeah, and she was a person I really had
a lot to do with. She was in all the projects.
The students were Junian Fassa that I was you know,
involved with too. She was a great community presence. And
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she left Pikeepsi maybe fifteen years ago. But I stayed
in touch with her.
Speaker 2 (16:13):
And you went to went to visit her, didn't you.
Speaker 1 (16:16):
She was well in the fall. I went up to
Vermont where she uh uh. It was got at the time.
But yeah, but I don't want to be like an
obituary show.
Speaker 2 (16:29):
Yeah, right, but you know it's it's part of our reality.
We can't be in denial of it.
Speaker 3 (16:34):
You know.
Speaker 2 (16:35):
It's it's those full circle.
Speaker 1 (16:36):
I will say both Drew for door Check and Maria Mareski.
It would not be surprising if many listener's new either
one or both of.
Speaker 2 (16:47):
Them, right, you little older. But yeah, when.
Speaker 1 (16:51):
You get somebody who as much white hair as I do,
death is going to be one of the subjects. Man.
Speaker 2 (16:56):
They did a great job. They did a great job.
Speaker 3 (16:59):
The organization Peak a Bay uh, led by Amina Carrey,
who is a I believe a Poughkeepsie native, a young
woman and and they had you know, they their gallery
was opened, so uh, you know, I got a couple
of pieces there and just wonderful, wonderful uh artwork and
photography done by done by the youth. There were a
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couple of podcasts simultaneously going on.
Speaker 1 (17:24):
Uh.
Speaker 3 (17:24):
Cory Spears was was there in the house, and and
all the youth, all the youth just engaging in the activities.
They cleaned up the park nicely and it was a
really really great, wonderful event. So kudos to you know,
to the Artifact for doing this, to the youth of
the Artifact for doing this annual event and keeping it going.
Speaker 1 (17:44):
Nicole the executive director, really carrying on. She was Maria's
assistant the Children Media Project, but she's the one who
came together to make the art effect. And what a
great thing for a city like Poughkeepsie to have specchi
an emphasis on youth thoughts or in the mayor's case,
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youth and government. It's really a big deal.
Speaker 3 (18:11):
Yes, it's pk X Festival. That's someone to make sure
I got the name correct, pk X.
Speaker 1 (18:16):
And you know, before we dish at the future events,
I mean you also mentioned I know you had to
be out of town on a funeral, yes, but it
was the eighteenth of April. The Haiti Projects had their
annual event in the In the Haiti Project, very simple
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people might know how I got meet from being on
the show here, but they take Haitian art and they
buy a lot of Haitian art at a fair price
in Haiti, they sell it at a fair price in America.
And with the Prophet, they've made a medical clinic just
five hours outside the capital upper Mountain that you have
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to the High Cup for two and a half hours.
They have a medical clinic there. They have a school
for kids, they have a women's group. They've also planted
fifty thousand trees and as well. Just know and while
and her husband Andrew one of the most ordinary, down
to earth people. But they've accomplished more goods some than
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anybody I've ever met.
Speaker 3 (19:19):
Right right right, And I think you know organizations, you know,
like like the Artifact, like Lilah's, you know, the Haiti Project.
I mean it shows you that that companies can structure
themselves in a way where where they can sustain themselves.
They can you know, be whether it's a nonprofit or
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profit model. And still give to the community, you know,
still as a community give to each other in a
way that sustains society, you know, in a in a
I think, in any any healthy way, financially in a
healthy way, emotionally in a healthy way. Spiritually, there's a
you know down it all doesn't have to be take take,
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take take Greek Greek, Greek greed.
Speaker 1 (20:04):
The spiritual corporation is a phrase for you.
Speaker 2 (20:08):
But just telephone new book.
Speaker 1 (20:12):
The the depth and the breadth of great stuff in
such count and Poughkeepsie, you know, without even getting into
what uh the future is, you know, just mentioning Jim
for Georgia christ Church and Maria Reskie and the children
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Media project which turns to the art effect and on
the Mayor's ball. There's just a lot of great stuff
to have where we live. And when you're finding out
with Pete and the Poe Goal, you're finding out about
this stuff.
Speaker 3 (20:48):
Absolutely were there already, you know, if you're just tuning
in again, Yeah, well we must be chatting often a
lot today the first one, okay, so once again, if
you just twiting in, you're listening to finding out with
Pete and the poet Gold and I'm the poet Gold
and we're having a conversation once again about the community
events that have been taking place. Some we've attended and
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and some we haven't. But we're just having a conversation
about and what's what's coming up. You know, I do
want to say this to our listeners because since we're
talking about the greatness, really I like to I always
like to call it the greatness in the city of
Poughkeepsie and the surrounding areas. You know, just even as
a listener, you're great too, you know.
Speaker 1 (21:29):
Uh.
Speaker 3 (21:30):
They're just small acts of what I call greatness or gratitude,
things that that we can do, uh with with our neighbors,
you know, checking on checking in on each other. You know,
things that when people I get that people work very
hard and and sometimes we're just tired when we get home.
But when you have that out of the life is
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demanding moment and you have that space where you've sort
of taken care of yourself, you've gone for your walk,
you know, with your partner or with your kids, or
with yourself, you took a breath, there's always this this
opportunity to say when you're sort of looking at television
or listening to a friend story and going, I wish
I could do that.
Speaker 2 (22:10):
Well, you can do that, you know you can.
Speaker 3 (22:13):
You can actually volunteer, whether it's you know, an hour,
you know, whether it's two hours for an organization. You'd
be surprised the difference that it that it makes for
an organization. And as long as you're consistent, that becomes
what's Yeah, even if even if it's just once a month,
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it doesn't mean every week. But if you know, whatever
your pattern is, you know, show up you know for
your town or or your neighbor, or.
Speaker 1 (22:43):
Listening to the show if you if you want to
listen to finding out doing something for your community, you're
finding out.
Speaker 3 (22:51):
Right and you can share the information you know with someone.
If that's you know, I.
Speaker 1 (22:55):
Feel great about yourself, that.
Speaker 3 (22:57):
You right right absolutely and that and that's that is
that is the greatness that you're part of of of
a community. No matter no matter what one's viewpoint is
or political side. I think people sometimes get caught up,
you know, especially they just too caught up, you know
that they that they lose the humanity.
Speaker 1 (23:16):
I always do that.
Speaker 3 (23:17):
You know, you said you do that, Peter, Now you
lose you lose the humanity, you know, and and the
humanity is important.
Speaker 2 (23:24):
Yeah, you have to fight for it for yourself.
Speaker 1 (23:26):
It's essential.
Speaker 2 (23:27):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (23:27):
And this week coming up, Dutches's Outreach is having their
galla on Thursday. And you know that's a Dutchess County
is not Dutchess County without Dutchess Outreaching, right, And you
know they're an organization. At headquarters is at the Family
Partnership Center. It's twenty on North Hamilton Street. And they're
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having a big galla at the Pughkeepsie Grand the Grand
View and well we'll be there on Thursday night. And
you know they have hot meals five days a week
at lunchtime. But and you know they get you know,
two and fifty people that are averaging almost up to
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three hundred now feeding two fifty to three hundred people
a day a hot meal that's nutritious and and needed.
And there's also they have a clothes closet Way Clothes
where there's emergency food that you can get.
Speaker 2 (24:29):
Sometimes they don't they do the clothing, I mean the
coat drive in the winter, don't they.
Speaker 1 (24:34):
Level you have thousands of colotes that go out and
they also uh a very good advocacy for people like
if you know, if you're going to get ejected from
your apartment, you know, they do advocacy on the rent
or if you're behind on the electric bill, they can restructure.
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They work to restructure bill, maybe even take a portion.
But they're really it's a great force that has been
thriving in Dutchess County for forty fifty years. Inspired work
and the simplest, most spiritual work in the world. Feed
the hungry, if you're if you're hungry, that's one of
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the things. And so they'll be having their gal on
Thursday night, and I was I'm always struck by how
much I don't know about Dutchess Outreach, and I follow
them closely. I'm, you know, a regular let's keep up
with it. But they have a project I learned about
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the last time was there in the Eastern Chuntry with
farmers to grow more get sustainable, healthy food coming in.
But there are way they work and they in the
medical profession. They're associated with the people of Fans Brothers Hospital.
Speaker 2 (25:58):
I didn't know that, Yeah, you know.
Speaker 1 (26:00):
You know work on nutrition and how important that is
as a vital thing. So they're great collaborators. And one
of the things, uh that they're very good at is
having people, uh you know, volunteer people. A lot of
people volunteer for them, you know. So it's a place.
But I find that, uh it might be typified or
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the way they have the food now. It used to
be like you go in and you get a bag
of food and you know, whatever they had to give you.
But they now they have it set up like a
little and they have a shot because you can pick
what you need and what you you want what. And
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my experience is they're seeing the people have that freedom
with it not being labeled as you know, here's a
bag of food, but they're being treated with dignity. Makes
some different than the kids two are there with your parents.
You can feel there's a sense of iman they have.
Speaker 3 (27:04):
Absolutely and that's that's that's that's important, you know, because
once again it's about breaking down these stereotypes, you know,
what people people think in there, even though intellectually I
know that people well I hope that people recognize, especially today,
that many different people need assistance with food. You know,
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working class people. You know, there are people I take
ubers a lot, you know, and there's there. And I
often get in conversation with the uber drivers and I
often ask them why are you doing this? You know,
that's my question. They're like, why why are you not
that there's anything wrong with I have an Uber, but
I'm still always curious as to you know. Some do
it full time, and some say, well, I got to
pay my rent, you know, or I pay my rent,
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and you know, and I came down with an illness,
and so I need to pay my medical bills, you know.
Or I pay my medical bills and I pay my rent,
but there's no money for food, you know, and so
and and and they may go to a Dutches's Outreach
or a pantry, you know, and so and there's there's
no there's no sort of a negative perception of that
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these are these are hard working individuals, you know, who
need some help, you know, and and in a time
of need, an organization like Judges Dutchess Outreach is there.
Speaker 2 (28:16):
And it would be no different.
Speaker 3 (28:18):
If if we all lived in a community. I mean,
that's what Earth is, right, We're communities, you know, So
if we're all in a community, we would be sharing
bread and eggs with with our neighbors, and the neighbor
would give you some greens or or some lettuce, and
you know, you know, but we live.
Speaker 1 (28:35):
In the richest country in the world, and you know,
Dutch just how it reached us a fantastic job of
providing food for people who really really need it, right,
And they don't claim to have solved that problem. Right,
They're still operating at a deficit. You know, they need
more food, they need more supplies. So you know, you're
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very optimistic notion that we're all on the earth and
we're going to share.
Speaker 3 (29:01):
Well, no, no, no, no, I didn't say Wednesday we all
are going to share because.
Speaker 1 (29:04):
It was making fun of you.
Speaker 2 (29:06):
Oh okay, because if.
Speaker 3 (29:06):
We were all sharing and wouldn't have children going hungry,
you know, so, so I'm just saying that that that's
something that we should do. You know we should we Well,
I have a friend of mine who would say, will
call me up and say, stopped.
Speaker 2 (29:18):
You shouldn't say should Okay, you know, you know you
don't say should so, but I wish we did.
Speaker 1 (29:23):
Well, let me say you should should you should go
to the Dutchess outreager and we're not getting to playing
parent or dinner that same.
Speaker 2 (29:31):
Night, and where is that going to be?
Speaker 1 (29:33):
That real quick on rout, knowing that the Morse Mansion.
Speaker 2 (29:37):
Okay, yeah, okay, there's.
Speaker 1 (29:40):
Lots going on Poughkeepsie, and but we're at the time, at.
Speaker 2 (29:44):
The time, Wow, look at that.
Speaker 1 (29:45):
We're gonna we're gonna have to go from Commas superiods,
and we got to stop talking sometimes. I want to
say that I appreciate people finding out, absolutely finding out
Repete and the poet go.
Speaker 2 (29:57):
Thank you so much for listening. Have a wonderful weekend.
The views and opinions expressed in the following programmer those
of the speaker and don't necessarily represent those of the station.
Speaker 2 (00:08):
It's staff management or ownership.
Speaker 1 (00:11):
Good morning you finding out with Pete and the Poke Old.
I'm Peter Leonard and I'm the poet Gold and we're
on the air with each other today. And before we
get through our action a spring and pickepsie, we're gonna
go right to the poet Gold for her weekly poem
prayer incantation. But today it's not one of her poems.
It's one of her stories coming from her new book,
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Be the poem.
Speaker 3 (00:32):
Yeah, Gold, let it roll, Okay, I'm going to read
Grateful Spirit. The body depreciates like a car driven off
the lot, but how you dress it up and what
you put into it brings value. Breath oxygen creates the
air to move through life, like the wheels on a
moving car with windows down on a sunny day, creating
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the wind blowing through our hair as we listen to
our favorite song, singing it out loud. We are usually
great for those moments, stirring up a sense of joy,
feeling free as if we have forever laughter. I've learned
through death, time is fleeting if we are paying attention, death,
when is up close and personal, teaches us how to
live through the presence of the morning and the grief.
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In the letting go hopefully through it all, one arrives
at gratitude for the time shared and the time left
to create a life still present to live and is
not paralyzed by the fear of mourning and the fear
of grief, discovering that each day is new, not like
the day before, and you may have the luxury of
bringing some of the old stuff you like with you
on to the new day, but it is a very
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different day. What are you truly grateful for? Beyond the
practice of the list in a gratitude book? Are you
walking living in your gratitude? Are you able to walk
away from the fight with your soul in tact or
do you need to have the last word self inflicting wound?
Speaker 2 (01:52):
Are you grateful for.
Speaker 3 (01:53):
The valleys and the lessons learned in those moments if any?
Have you ever called a friend out of the blue
and told them that you were grateful for their presence
in your life, whether it was a short or long
presence through an evolutionary process, we have been given such
a beautiful gift Earth. We did not have our hands
in its creation, but we do have our hands and
its sustainability, as we have our hands in the human connection.
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But our fears make us behave in a dominant fashion,
claiming lands, people, and destroying all forms of life humans, plants,
and animals. They hinder what I believe is the next
step in human evolution, spiritual growth. We have the potential
to become higher on the spiritual evolutionary level understanding the
intercon and connectedness of our ecosystem of life and humankind,
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and gratitude is deeply embedded in that journey through gratitude
may be considered a coping mechanism for dealing with adversity.
I am grateful for all of my experiences in life,
the good and the challenging ones, the pretty and the
unpretty ones. And you, the reader, I am grateful for
you too.
Speaker 1 (02:57):
Thank you, we amen and gold. I want to ask
you a question, and you don't have to have a
precise answer. But what you call that a story? But
it sounded very much like your poem. Okay, yeah, but
it's uh, the style is a little more complete. I
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mean the prose writing is the details, you don't have
to figure them out, but the spirit of that is
the same. And usually think of stories as having to
do with individual events, and this is.
Speaker 2 (03:34):
More human nature, human nature, more.
Speaker 1 (03:38):
Commentary on human nature. So we have a public called
as a poet, a prose writer, a commentator on human nature,
a storyteller. You got a lot of titles all of
a sudden, no, no, thank you. And we know we
have a show today where we planned to talk about
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events coming up and uh, you know, uh, we're springing Poughkeepsie,
what's going on looking towards the summer even But one
of the things I didn't anticipate in talking about until
you had the section on death there there's a person
lots of elvison as we know over the years, who
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died recently, and that's Jim Fi door Cech. And Jim
Fi Doorchech was at one point the county attorney and
he was, you know, a prominent member of the political
establishment and uh, Poughkeepsie in Dutchess County, and he died
(04:44):
recently and they're having a service for him on Sunday
at one o'clock on the Sunday at Christ church in Poughkeepsie.
To anybody who's going with that for the first time
might want to show up. But he U the section
was like two years older than May. But we become
friends in the last two years. Uh and I have
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we go to breakfast. We both work out, workout exercise Michael,
I take it generally. Then we go to breakfast once
every three weeks or so. So he was again relating
to your point your story there. He was somebody I
anticipated really being friend for like and it's hard to
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make friends late in life. He was a new friend
and I was looking forward to a lot of joy
with him once He's not gonna happen. But and the
suddenness of it is one thing, but any unpredictability. But
as you points out in the story there, you know,
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death is one of the teachers.
Speaker 2 (05:52):
And it gives.
Speaker 3 (05:53):
It gives, even though it's obviously difficult for most you
know people, and the grieving process, it comes like a
tide that has its own ebbs and flows, and sometimes
you don't. I think a tide is more predictable than
than even grief is, you know.
Speaker 2 (06:10):
But but there's a value in it, you know.
Speaker 3 (06:13):
I think as you begin to embrace it and and
understand the presence that someone had in your life, you know,
and and and the value and the joy that they
did bring.
Speaker 2 (06:23):
Hopefully, you know, Jim were a lot of joy.
Speaker 1 (06:26):
And he's somebody who uh lived most of his life
as a personal very different political opinions and all that.
And in recent years our political opinions coincided much more.
But he was always you know, funny and a prominent
person in Dutchy County political life.
Speaker 2 (06:48):
And I really think I met him.
Speaker 1 (06:50):
I don't think so either. I tried to get him
on the show a couple of times. He didn't want
to be overly controversial. Was you know, when you really
switch your political opinions, you can be extra controversial. And
his opinion has changed, but his disposition did not. So
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he had what I considered a very conservative sensibility. And
it was funny because I, well, some of his opinions
were much more like mine. But a guy very smart,
opened to change, very curious about people, very good at
(07:33):
simply being respectful to no matter who he ran into,
you know, at the gym and the staff there. So
it's a big deal. But Jim Fido check miss celebration
Sunday at one o'clock on chemistry and Poughkeepsie. And to
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all the people who might be learning that for the
first time, thank you for listening. And you know, yeah
it might be hard.
Speaker 2 (08:03):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (08:04):
So, and that's an event I didn't expect you to
talk about, but you mentioned death. Certainly brought that to mind.
But one of the things we.
Speaker 2 (08:15):
We attended the Mayor's Ball.
Speaker 1 (08:17):
But and that's just last week we had the Mayor's Ball,
and I will your impressions of it.
Speaker 3 (08:23):
I thought, I thought it was a wonderful gathering. You know,
you know, once again, the the the funding for the
Mayor's Ball. I got quite an education this year of
you know why it exists. You know why she continues
to do the Mayor's Ball, because other mayors have done
the Mayor's Ball. It's not just this administration's you know
thing that's been done in the past. But but Mayor
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Flowers intentionally does it to raise funds for a a
youth organization, governmental group to learn about the civic contribution
and the governmental structure. And and I thought that was
fascinating and also well needed today in communities across the board.
Speaker 2 (09:07):
Whether you're keeps you anything.
Speaker 3 (09:09):
I don't think our our kids get the education that
they need and understanding how our structures are run and
how much power they can hold within themselves. And I'm
gonna say power in a negative sense, just understanding that
the power of voice and the power of choice and
the power of education in that particular area.
Speaker 1 (09:31):
And you know, we we had many Flowers on recently
to talk about this event. Well always coming up, but
you may have on Flowers has always been focused on
young people. You know, that's there's nothing new or political
about that. But and I thought the program was really
(09:53):
innovative in the sense that it's a small program and
has like ten students in it, and their design. It's designed,
as you said, teaching about government and you know, a
career in government as possible, you know, being an extra
good citizen as possible and likely. And they had several
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other students at the event talking about their experience, and
you could see young people, like almost everybody is a
little nervous talking about stuff, but the young people were
even the ones you could tell we're nervous about it,
they got through.
Speaker 3 (10:31):
It absolutely, absolutely, they stepped up to the mic and
you know, and was willing to grow through it and
you talk.
Speaker 1 (10:41):
On a microphone to a couple hundred people adults when
you were fifteen and you're talking to adults. It's an accomplishment, absolutely,
and Mayor I was of set them up to succeed
at that event. Which will you know you have a
different notion of yourself. I think if your high school
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students was also talking to adults and the adults are interested.
Speaker 2 (11:06):
And one of the other students I went.
Speaker 3 (11:10):
Last Sunday to the p k UH I don't want
to mess this up p X p k X festival.
Speaker 2 (11:19):
I'm probably messing this up.
Speaker 3 (11:20):
I'm sorry to feel the artifact that the youth put
on that attend the artifact. They have an annual festival
that that are spearheaded by by the youth, and and
it was it was a really it was a really
wonderful festival to attend. This year, their theme was the
Golden Era of hip Hop, which was which is a
different time period, uh from the eighties to the mid
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nineties of the hip hop movement and it and its
culture versus where the commercialization of hip hop, because hip
hop started at a place of storytelling and when it
became more or less commercialized. That's when it became more sexualized. Uh,
it became uh, you know, for for for some, some
strains of it became violent and so and so it's
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set up for confusion for the art form for itself
to to the listeners and uh and and for some
it became uninviting. But but for most of us, you know,
it was still all all hip hop and and still
very diverse in its voice and is a lot.
Speaker 2 (12:26):
Of good things.
Speaker 3 (12:27):
So so so their thing was the golden era of
hip hop. And we're talking about the storytelling, you know,
and and talking about how hip hop was generally used
to uplift communities and and and speak to the voice
of communities. And I think we're at a full circle
moment too with it as well.
Speaker 1 (12:45):
And well, hip hop the way it's developed and the commercialization,
which was very violent, sexualized, it gave people reason not
theing like it, you know, Uh, and it drew on
some praise people have against black people. Let's say, identify
hip hop as black music.
Speaker 3 (13:05):
Usually right, if you're just tuning in, you're listening to
Finding Out with Pete and the poet Gold and I'm
the poet Gold, and we're here today having a conversation
about local events here and poughkeepsies that we may have
attended or are going to attend to things that are
coming up. I just want to go back to your
your point about the relationship of hip hop being identified
with with black black music and the black community, and
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so there's any type of of of stereotyping that people
feel uncomfortable with. You're you're, you're accurate, you know with
with with that point, but I also point out the
people that particularly of old the generation, if you grew
up with Humphrey Bogart and James Cagney and all those
types of films and those stories, they were equally as violent.
Speaker 1 (13:49):
You know.
Speaker 3 (13:49):
They were stories that where the people carried guns and
and and and they were depicted upon some realities.
Speaker 1 (13:56):
You know, you're you and I grew with cowboy movies.
Speaker 2 (14:01):
He a cowboy without a gun.
Speaker 3 (14:03):
Right without shooting, they woot right exactly, you know, and
so and so I always found it interesting that that
when it came to hip hop, all of a sudden,
the violence seemed to be like something new, you know,
something new where you know, this is this is what
you watched all the time, but it was new and
I think to your point was because of how community
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see black people, particularly the black male.
Speaker 1 (14:26):
You know, yeah, on that I don't have. I'm not
a great reference for music. But if you look at
the song Mac the Knife, which is a very pleasant
uh song, you know, Barry Bobby Jarrenson Mack Knife. Most
people are familiar with that. That's just sorry about a
murder like a like a random murder was supposed to
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enjoy and we're on the side of the bad guy.
And you know, no, I never heard anybody criticize that, right, right, right,
But but you know, I want to I don't want
to sound want talking about it. But the Night of
the Artifacts night showing the films uh on uh the
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youth have produced over the year. That was the very
nice that Maria Mareski died. And she was a soundary
of children's Media project which eventually merged with the other
who whole organization.
Speaker 2 (15:20):
In Mill Street under but h Maria.
Speaker 1 (15:26):
Was one who founded children's media projects and did all
the stuff with the very heavy emphasis on youth producing movies,
uh film and with the one eye towards professional stuff,
you eye towards just knowing another art. But Maria Moreski,
(15:48):
UH died. Uh uh, you know recently two weeks ago.
And yeah, and she was a person I really had
a lot to do with. She was in all the projects.
The students were Junian Fassa that I was you know,
involved with too. She was a great community presence. And
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she left Pikeepsi maybe fifteen years ago. But I stayed
in touch with her.
Speaker 2 (16:13):
And you went to went to visit her, didn't you.
Speaker 1 (16:16):
She was well in the fall. I went up to
Vermont where she uh uh. It was got at the time.
But yeah, but I don't want to be like an
obituary show.
Speaker 2 (16:29):
Yeah, right, but you know it's it's part of our reality.
We can't be in denial of it.
Speaker 3 (16:34):
You know.
Speaker 2 (16:35):
It's it's those full circle.
Speaker 1 (16:36):
I will say both Drew for door Check and Maria Mareski.
It would not be surprising if many listener's new either
one or both of.
Speaker 2 (16:47):
Them, right, you little older. But yeah, when.
Speaker 1 (16:51):
You get somebody who as much white hair as I do,
death is going to be one of the subjects. Man.
Speaker 2 (16:56):
They did a great job. They did a great job.
Speaker 3 (16:59):
The organization Peak a Bay uh, led by Amina Carrey,
who is a I believe a Poughkeepsie native, a young
woman and and they had you know, they their gallery
was opened, so uh, you know, I got a couple
of pieces there and just wonderful, wonderful uh artwork and
photography done by done by the youth. There were a
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couple of podcasts simultaneously going on.
Speaker 1 (17:24):
Uh.
Speaker 3 (17:24):
Cory Spears was was there in the house, and and
all the youth, all the youth just engaging in the activities.
They cleaned up the park nicely and it was a
really really great, wonderful event. So kudos to you know,
to the Artifact for doing this, to the youth of
the Artifact for doing this annual event and keeping it going.
Speaker 1 (17:44):
Nicole the executive director, really carrying on. She was Maria's
assistant the Children Media Project, but she's the one who
came together to make the art effect. And what a
great thing for a city like Poughkeepsie to have specchi
an emphasis on youth thoughts or in the mayor's case,
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youth and government. It's really a big deal.
Speaker 3 (18:11):
Yes, it's pk X Festival. That's someone to make sure
I got the name correct, pk X.
Speaker 1 (18:16):
And you know, before we dish at the future events,
I mean you also mentioned I know you had to
be out of town on a funeral, yes, but it
was the eighteenth of April. The Haiti Projects had their
annual event in the In the Haiti Project, very simple
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people might know how I got meet from being on
the show here, but they take Haitian art and they
buy a lot of Haitian art at a fair price
in Haiti, they sell it at a fair price in America.
And with the Prophet, they've made a medical clinic just
five hours outside the capital upper Mountain that you have
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to the High Cup for two and a half hours.
They have a medical clinic there. They have a school
for kids, they have a women's group. They've also planted
fifty thousand trees and as well. Just know and while
and her husband Andrew one of the most ordinary, down
to earth people. But they've accomplished more goods some than
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anybody I've ever met.
Speaker 3 (19:19):
Right right right, And I think you know organizations, you know,
like like the Artifact, like Lilah's, you know, the Haiti Project.
I mean it shows you that that companies can structure
themselves in a way where where they can sustain themselves.
They can you know, be whether it's a nonprofit or
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profit model. And still give to the community, you know,
still as a community give to each other in a
way that sustains society, you know, in a in a
I think, in any any healthy way, financially in a
healthy way, emotionally in a healthy way. Spiritually, there's a
you know down it all doesn't have to be take take,
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take take Greek Greek, Greek greed.
Speaker 1 (20:04):
The spiritual corporation is a phrase for you.
Speaker 2 (20:08):
But just telephone new book.
Speaker 1 (20:12):
The the depth and the breadth of great stuff in
such count and Poughkeepsie, you know, without even getting into
what uh the future is, you know, just mentioning Jim
for Georgia christ Church and Maria Reskie and the children
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Media project which turns to the art effect and on
the Mayor's ball. There's just a lot of great stuff
to have where we live. And when you're finding out
with Pete and the Poe Goal, you're finding out about
this stuff.
Speaker 3 (20:48):
Absolutely were there already, you know, if you're just tuning
in again, Yeah, well we must be chatting often a
lot today the first one, okay, so once again, if
you just twiting in, you're listening to finding out with
Pete and the poet Gold and I'm the poet Gold
and we're having a conversation once again about the community
events that have been taking place. Some we've attended and
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and some we haven't. But we're just having a conversation
about and what's what's coming up. You know, I do
want to say this to our listeners because since we're
talking about the greatness, really I like to I always
like to call it the greatness in the city of
Poughkeepsie and the surrounding areas. You know, just even as
a listener, you're great too, you know.
Speaker 1 (21:29):
Uh.
Speaker 3 (21:30):
They're just small acts of what I call greatness or gratitude,
things that that we can do, uh with with our neighbors,
you know, checking on checking in on each other. You know,
things that when people I get that people work very
hard and and sometimes we're just tired when we get home.
But when you have that out of the life is
(21:51):
demanding moment and you have that space where you've sort
of taken care of yourself, you've gone for your walk,
you know, with your partner or with your kids, or
with yourself, you took a breath, there's always this this
opportunity to say when you're sort of looking at television
or listening to a friend story and going, I wish
I could do that.
Speaker 2 (22:10):
Well, you can do that, you know you can.
Speaker 3 (22:13):
You can actually volunteer, whether it's you know, an hour,
you know, whether it's two hours for an organization. You'd
be surprised the difference that it that it makes for
an organization. And as long as you're consistent, that becomes
what's Yeah, even if even if it's just once a month,
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it doesn't mean every week. But if you know, whatever
your pattern is, you know, show up you know for
your town or or your neighbor, or.
Speaker 1 (22:43):
Listening to the show if you if you want to
listen to finding out doing something for your community, you're
finding out.
Speaker 3 (22:51):
Right and you can share the information you know with someone.
If that's you know, I.
Speaker 1 (22:55):
Feel great about yourself, that.
Speaker 3 (22:57):
You right right absolutely and that and that's that is
that is the greatness that you're part of of of
a community. No matter no matter what one's viewpoint is
or political side. I think people sometimes get caught up,
you know, especially they just too caught up, you know
that they that they lose the humanity.
Speaker 1 (23:16):
I always do that.
Speaker 3 (23:17):
You know, you said you do that, Peter, Now you
lose you lose the humanity, you know, and and the
humanity is important.
Speaker 2 (23:24):
Yeah, you have to fight for it for yourself.
Speaker 1 (23:26):
It's essential.
Speaker 2 (23:27):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (23:27):
And this week coming up, Dutches's Outreach is having their
galla on Thursday. And you know that's a Dutchess County
is not Dutchess County without Dutchess Outreaching, right, And you
know they're an organization. At headquarters is at the Family
Partnership Center. It's twenty on North Hamilton Street. And they're
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having a big galla at the Pughkeepsie Grand the Grand
View and well we'll be there on Thursday night. And
you know they have hot meals five days a week
at lunchtime. But and you know they get you know,
two and fifty people that are averaging almost up to
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three hundred now feeding two fifty to three hundred people
a day a hot meal that's nutritious and and needed.
And there's also they have a clothes closet Way Clothes
where there's emergency food that you can get.
Speaker 2 (24:29):
Sometimes they don't they do the clothing, I mean the
coat drive in the winter, don't they.
Speaker 1 (24:34):
Level you have thousands of colotes that go out and
they also uh a very good advocacy for people like
if you know, if you're going to get ejected from
your apartment, you know, they do advocacy on the rent
or if you're behind on the electric bill, they can restructure.
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They work to restructure bill, maybe even take a portion.
But they're really it's a great force that has been
thriving in Dutchess County for forty fifty years. Inspired work
and the simplest, most spiritual work in the world. Feed
the hungry, if you're if you're hungry, that's one of
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the things. And so they'll be having their gal on
Thursday night, and I was I'm always struck by how
much I don't know about Dutchess Outreach, and I follow
them closely. I'm, you know, a regular let's keep up
with it. But they have a project I learned about
(25:43):
the last time was there in the Eastern Chuntry with
farmers to grow more get sustainable, healthy food coming in.
But there are way they work and they in the
medical profession. They're associated with the people of Fans Brothers Hospital.
Speaker 2 (25:58):
I didn't know that, Yeah, you know.
Speaker 1 (26:00):
You know work on nutrition and how important that is
as a vital thing. So they're great collaborators. And one
of the things, uh that they're very good at is
having people, uh you know, volunteer people. A lot of
people volunteer for them, you know. So it's a place.
But I find that, uh it might be typified or
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the way they have the food now. It used to
be like you go in and you get a bag
of food and you know, whatever they had to give you.
But they now they have it set up like a
little and they have a shot because you can pick
what you need and what you you want what. And
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my experience is they're seeing the people have that freedom
with it not being labeled as you know, here's a
bag of food, but they're being treated with dignity. Makes
some different than the kids two are there with your parents.
You can feel there's a sense of iman they have.
Speaker 3 (27:04):
Absolutely and that's that's that's that's important, you know, because
once again it's about breaking down these stereotypes, you know,
what people people think in there, even though intellectually I
know that people well I hope that people recognize, especially today,
that many different people need assistance with food. You know,
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working class people. You know, there are people I take
ubers a lot, you know, and there's there. And I
often get in conversation with the uber drivers and I
often ask them why are you doing this? You know,
that's my question. They're like, why why are you not
that there's anything wrong with I have an Uber, but
I'm still always curious as to you know. Some do
it full time, and some say, well, I got to
pay my rent, you know, or I pay my rent,
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and you know, and I came down with an illness,
and so I need to pay my medical bills, you know.
Or I pay my medical bills and I pay my rent,
but there's no money for food, you know, and so
and and and they may go to a Dutches's Outreach
or a pantry, you know, and so and there's there's
no there's no sort of a negative perception of that
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these are these are hard working individuals, you know, who
need some help, you know, and and in a time
of need, an organization like Judges Dutchess Outreach is there.
Speaker 2 (28:16):
And it would be no different.
Speaker 3 (28:18):
If if we all lived in a community. I mean,
that's what Earth is, right, We're communities, you know, So
if we're all in a community, we would be sharing
bread and eggs with with our neighbors, and the neighbor
would give you some greens or or some lettuce, and
you know, you know, but we live.
Speaker 1 (28:35):
In the richest country in the world, and you know,
Dutch just how it reached us a fantastic job of
providing food for people who really really need it, right,
And they don't claim to have solved that problem. Right,
They're still operating at a deficit. You know, they need
more food, they need more supplies. So you know, you're
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very optimistic notion that we're all on the earth and
we're going to share.
Speaker 3 (29:01):
Well, no, no, no, no, I didn't say Wednesday we all
are going to share because.
Speaker 1 (29:04):
It was making fun of you.
Speaker 2 (29:06):
Oh okay, because if.
Speaker 3 (29:06):
We were all sharing and wouldn't have children going hungry,
you know, so, so I'm just saying that that that's
something that we should do. You know we should we Well,
I have a friend of mine who would say, will
call me up and say, stopped.
Speaker 2 (29:18):
You shouldn't say should Okay, you know, you know you
don't say should so, but I wish we did.
Speaker 1 (29:23):
Well, let me say you should should you should go
to the Dutchess outreager and we're not getting to playing
parent or dinner that same.
Speaker 2 (29:31):
Night, and where is that going to be?
Speaker 1 (29:33):
That real quick on rout, knowing that the Morse Mansion.
Speaker 2 (29:37):
Okay, yeah, okay, there's.
Speaker 1 (29:40):
Lots going on Poughkeepsie, and but we're at the time, at.
Speaker 2 (29:44):
The time, Wow, look at that.
Speaker 1 (29:45):
We're gonna we're gonna have to go from Commas superiods,
and we got to stop talking sometimes. I want to
say that I appreciate people finding out, absolutely finding out
Repete and the poet go.
Speaker 2 (29:57):
Thank you so much for listening. Have a wonderful weekend.
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