Episode Transcript
Available transcripts are automatically generated. Complete accuracy is not guaranteed.
Speaker 1 (00:01):
The views and opinions expressed in the following programmer those
of the speaker and don't necessarily represent those of the
station it's staff, management or ownership. Good morning, you're finding
out with Pete and Poe Cold. I'm Peter Lemmonds and
I'm the poet Gold and we're on the ear this
morning with Queen Sheepa. And you're gonna learn or forgot
about Queen Sheepa said Abe, but not before a poet
(00:22):
Cold gives her a weekly poem, prayer, incantation, a goal,
Please let it roll?
Speaker 2 (00:27):
Okay, Well, speak to people about courage today. Courage a
shift in mind, creating peace among the broken pieces, resolute,
leaning into it, fearlessly, becoming your own sun by day,
the stars in the moon by night, navigating the darkness,
weightless in the galaxy, freeing yourself from paying the burden
(00:48):
from carrying heavy locks and change.
Speaker 1 (00:51):
Courage encourages one of the themes of I guess everyone's life,
but nobody's life more than Sheba. She's done a lot
of things in all of it. I think the theme
of coverage really would bring it together. I and Queen
(01:13):
should be you might want to just give us some
initial introduction to who you are. Lots of people in
the Hudson Valley don't know you yet, although I know
you have an awful lot of notoriety nationwide.
Speaker 3 (01:28):
I appreciate that. Yeah, it's okay. I enjoy meeting new people.
So I'm originally from Detroit, Michigan. I've been living in
Atlanta for twenty one years, almost twenty one years, and
I'm a three time Grammy nominated spoken word artist, a
two time NAACP Image Award nominee. I've had some other
(01:51):
super cool accolades. I was an adjunct professor at Clark
Atlanta University for five years, adjunct professor sou the New
Hampshire University for a year and a half. I run
my own virtual mentorship program online every Tuesday, and I'm
also a Weekend Warrior adult athlete. I like to swim, bike, run,
(02:15):
and I have a German Shepherd that I take everywhere
with me. So that's about the sum of my life.
And I love fashion.
Speaker 1 (02:22):
Does the German Shepherd do dog? Panel? To do the
dog peddle? I was a swimming culture number of years
and so aswimming is something the only athletic thing I
excel at but gold does no.
Speaker 2 (02:40):
No, what question is I've seen your dog on Instagram
and your dog is absolutely stunning.
Speaker 3 (02:47):
Oh, thank you so much.
Speaker 2 (02:49):
It really is definitely definitely sweetheart. You know, I want
to get right to it because I know that you
have the upcoming Poetry Versus Hip Hop tour in place,
and you're going to be at the sea the Winery
of the Hudson Valley April thirtieth, and I just want
to say, in advance of our listeners, thank you for
inviting me to be a part of that. I'm very
excited about it. But I was reading some online information
(03:11):
and I just want to just read a quote by
Caroline Rothstein from Columbia University who said, Queen Sheba has
used her pen, her voice, and her words to usher
us towards a glimpse of her soul.
Speaker 4 (03:27):
If only we could all be so.
Speaker 2 (03:29):
Brave, no matter what, no matter what, are our own truths.
I found that to be, you know, very profound, because
you know, like yourself, I mentored through poetry and your story.
I mean, if you don't mind sharing it, your foster
care story is so so profounds. It's sort of like
the phoenix rising from the ashes. You know, how can
(03:53):
you encapsulate that that journey for our listeners and the
impact that becoming a writer and becoming a poet, specifically
a spoken word poet has had on your life.
Speaker 3 (04:05):
Oh my gosh. I know it's cliche, everybody. I know
it's cliche. But if I didn't have poetry or the arts,
because I actually started dancing first and then I wasn't
very good at it, but at modern and jazz dancing
I loved and I still even try and I do
it in my videos sometimes. But you know, I just
(04:26):
and I continue to kind of sing like alternative rock.
I love like all the ram Chicago, the doors. I
grew up on Tina Turner and Jimmy Hendricks and just
you know, all the rock classics. And also I grew
up on Bach and Chopin and Beethoven and just just
a mix of music. And so I just love the
(04:49):
arts as a whole. And so I am bi racial.
My mother is white, and we use German and Cherokee directly.
So actually have Cherokee descent from Michigan. And I need
to like tap in if somebody knows how to do
that for me. I heard it's a long process. But
I need to tap into that. And then my father,
(05:09):
I hear, is black. And the only reason I say
I hear is because it was my mother who kept
me for eight months. And if you know what an
eight month baby does is like to a mother is
you're already up walking, like pulling yourself up on furniture,
like you know, you're connected and walking around, right, So
we're trying to walk around. And so my mother kept
(05:30):
me for eight months. And as a white woman, she
was one of nine and the youngest in her family.
Her father was directly Fyerokee and her mother was directly German,
and her father was like, I don't want this black
baby in my house talking about me, and so she
lied to her dad and said, well, I was gang
raped and I don't know who the father is. Let's
(05:52):
just such a traumatic thing to say, like wow, wow, yes, yes,
she said. She told them she was gang raped and
didn't know who the father was. And so a white
man came along and said, I'll marry you, but I
don't want this black baby, and so she put me
up for adoption at eight months old. So she had
already taken me home and attached with me. So I
have horrible, horrible, horrible attachment or detachment disorder, whichever it is.
(06:15):
I'm not a psycholagist sechiatrist, but it has messed with
me in my entire life and relationship. So then after her,
I was in three foster homes and one I was
sexually assaulted before I could even talk, which was horrible
by a a man or a young boy or teenage
(06:36):
boy or young maybe twenties eighteen nineteen named Kevin. And unfortunately,
with the family who adopted me, I have an older brother,
four years older than me named Kevin, who had nothing
to do with that because when I had when they
said his name, I would scream and scream and scream
and scream even if I didn't have words. So they
(06:56):
tried to adopt me, and I already have this trauma.
This is this white family moving from Jackson, Michigan to Detroit, Michigan.
They were already in their process, and so I grew
up in Detroit, not the suburbs. I grew up in
Detroit on the West Side. I went to public school.
I went to Vtall, then Luddington, and then I went
to cast Tech for my sophomore year. And cast Tech
(07:16):
is famous for Diana Ross and for the arts and
for dance and for singing, and they tore the old
building down made this new, beautiful building. But my sophomore year,
my adopted family and I guess just couldn't take it anymore.
They put me into a youth home. So now imagine
I'm fifteen years old and I've already been to how
many homes? Is this already? Like my attachment disorder is jacked?
Speaker 1 (07:40):
Right?
Speaker 3 (07:41):
I can I'm in this youth home from fifteen to sixteen.
Back up in Grant and Rapids, Michigan, which is northwest Michigan.
So I was born in Kalamazoo, I didn't say that.
So Calvilton was famous for the Kellogg's factory. So that's
where Kellogg's has made all the Kellogg's brands, Babe powder,
everything that's attached to Kellogg's with you sea, Yeah, so
(08:04):
it's you would be surprised at how many brands are
attached to Kellogg's, like thousands. But anyway, it's a very racist,
racist town and just a lot of white people there
that are just not keen to people of color at all.
And so so I go back up to Grand Rapids
Michigan in this closed youth home shout out to Wedgwood Acres,
(08:27):
which was, asqually, one of my best years of my life.
I needed structure, and I really like structure alive. I've
learned later my personality is concrete random. And so then
I go to this open youth home, also attached to
Wedgwood Acres, and then I graduate technically from what I'm technically.
(08:48):
I graduate from Grand Rapid Central, which I'm grateful for
but hate it because you know, you graduate from Cashtac
of the whole nother ballgame, right, So then I try
to run away from the from the youth home a
couple of times and then ended up not failing at that,
and then I literally end up just in this house
(09:09):
with my then boyfriend who was Puerto Rican, who is sorry,
who is Puerto Rican and his sister who literally was
just living on their owns through high school. And his
sister was a couple of years older, and she was
dating I promised the God, I could not make this up,
and she was dating a Dominican drug lord. And we
(09:31):
lived in the basement our senior year. I mean the
basement was you know, finished or whatever, but we lived
in the basement. As senior high school students, we went
to junior prom. I didn't go to senior prom. And
then I graduated. I was CouchSurfing literally as a senior.
Like nobody knew this. It was just just stress, stress
and stress every day. So people called me Hillary from
(09:58):
the Fresh Prince. I was over compensating for like my
self esteem with Jack and probably still is Jack and
if I want to be real honest about it, but
and I just you know, I was always wearing suits
to high school, Like who does that. I was, in
a briefcase, I was just a walking target for bullying,
you know.
Speaker 2 (10:15):
But but you do have you do have a fashion sense.
It's it's I've I've I've noticed that. I mean, I
didn't know you, you know, through all this transition, Okay,
but you do have a fascist sense, So it doesn't.
So it doesn't surprise me when you're saying, well, you know,
you kind of suit it up because you know, you.
Speaker 3 (10:30):
Know, well, I wanted to be Hillary from the Fresh
Prince that I don't say she was really older than me,
but you know, portraying a younger person in high school,
right right, right, right right. I didn't realize she was
acting Hillary. But I joined the track team and that
was really that was some good structure, and my track
coaches took me. I did track in volleyball, but I
(10:51):
didn't go to college right away. I didn't know what
to do. I didn't know how to do that process.
Like nobody walked me through that process. And so I
didn't go to college for four years. So the year
I should have graduated, and I got into all sorts
of trouble. And you can read it in my book,
It's Foster Care to Fame. It's on my website, The
Queen scheeba that live and.
Speaker 2 (11:10):
I'm going to towards you one second, just so so
those of who are tuning in will know who they're
listening to. If you're just tuning in, you're listening to
finding out with Pete and the Poet Gold, and I'm
the Poet Gold. We're having a wonderful conversation and interview
with Queen. Sheiba three time Grammy nominated artists as well
as a TED Talk speaker, and we're fortunate to have
her on the line with us, and she's coming up
(11:31):
with a tour here in the Hudson Valley that's stopping
in the Hudson Valley called Poetry Versus Hip Hop at
the Sydney Winery of Hudson Valley on April thirtieth. You know, Queen,
your story, I'm gonna let you continue, but your story
actually should be a movie.
Speaker 3 (11:46):
I mean, I'm listening to you, guys who I am
down for independent film. If there's anybody that's listening now
or in the future with playback and wants to hit
up me or poet Gold or Peter and get in
touch with me and wants to make this a movie.
I have always said that I definitely have the makings
for a lifetime documentary. So on my yes so on
(12:10):
my YouTube page, I have half a million views for
a documentary that Lexus did of me just last year
and it's only fifteen minutes and people were like, oh
my god, this is amazing. So shout out to Sihan
and the Poetry Lounges. They're the one. And I hit
him up the other day. I was like, Yo, we
got to do this movie. And then so he was like, well,
(12:30):
you got to move to la And I'm like, okay,
so let me do a GoFundMe to move to LA
for two years so we can make this movie.
Speaker 4 (12:37):
So what was the term for you?
Speaker 2 (12:39):
You know, you had mentioned that you had joined the
track team, which which then you know, enabled you to
get some structure in your life because usually you know,
team sports or sports in general bring structure to you.
There anyone who participates in it and maybe didn't have
it before, and so that structure began to take place,
that see for structure began was planted.
Speaker 4 (13:01):
So what was what was the turn for you to go?
Speaker 2 (13:05):
I think I want to, you know, sort of like
touch into the arts in any capacity, whether it was
whether it was writing.
Speaker 4 (13:11):
What was the bug that that that bit you?
Speaker 3 (13:14):
Well? Again, I don't mean to be super cliche, but
I also want to back up on the track saying
I actually started running when I was twelve, back in Detroit.
So okay, Grand Records was after Detroit. So I started
running when I was fifteen when Eddie Murphy came out
with Beverly Hills Cop maybe one, and he had on
(13:35):
that Mumford T shirt that Mumford is Mumford High School
in Detroit. Oh okay, yeah, and he wore it on
purpose purpose and we were all like, oh my god,
because we used to use Mumford's track to practice. I'm like,
oh my god, that's right, Like you know, but I
went to Castep but Mumford was one of the top
(13:58):
three elite. So it was month cast and Renaissance and King.
I'll put King in there, so King. So those were
the top four high schools in Detroit at the time.
I don't mean any disrespect if they've changed, you know,
for anybody listening, but those at the time, in the nineties,
those were the Ford. If you went to those four
high schools, you were like smart and created and artistic,
(14:20):
and you were you were going somewhere in life, you
know what I mean. People expected you to go to
college and so on and so forth. So anyway, so
that's when I was going to cast My father was excited.
He was like, oh, thank god, You're not going to
end up on the streets. And my my parents were
like weirdly cruel to me, even though they adopted me.
It was the weirdest thing. So anyway, I started with
(14:40):
the arts. Again, I don't mean to be cliche. I'm
just telling them the truth. Like I staid with the arts.
When I was seven, I wrote my first poem in
second grade. But I put because I feel like I've
always had this edge of black power, because I've overcompensated
always for being this life skinned woman. I'm like, I'm
I'm blacking. I've just been this angry black woman ever
(15:01):
since I came out of the wound.
Speaker 5 (15:02):
And my uh I put that there was black seven
years old, and they were like, there's no black in
the rainbow.
Speaker 3 (15:11):
I was like, well, if you put all the colors
in the rainbow, then there's black and the rainbow about
seven years old. And they're like, well, you're disqualified from
our first poetry contest. I've lost. And I was like,
you know what, I'm never losing another poach before I
knew anything about slam.
Speaker 1 (15:28):
But you know, so move on without recognize how funny
it is to be a seven year old angry black woman.
Oh yeah, that's.
Speaker 3 (15:41):
Oh yeah, definitely. And it just but writing has always
been my way to talk to people without talking to people.
And I learned, and really at a young age, that
the little kids can't help me. You know. I just
was thinking beyond my time. And I didn't know at
(16:02):
the time that I was autistic until my late mid forties.
And so then when I found out that I was
neurodiverg and I was like, oh, no, wonder, I was
a genius and all of them were regular. So I
had this insight that they didn't have. But I remember
(16:22):
being nine years old, like, you know what, I'm gonna
stop talking to these little kids because they can't help me.
And I was just spilling my business and being made
fun of and that just made it worse.
Speaker 5 (16:31):
Right, right, which which probably compounding me that And I
didn't know how to handle that because my parents were
like anti violence, and my next door neighbors, who were black,
because I remember I was in Detroit, they were.
Speaker 3 (16:43):
Like, no, you should beat them up. You should beat
them up. And my parents were like, don't touch them.
And I'm like, oh my god, what do I do? Right?
Speaker 2 (16:49):
All right, and more than likely some of the trauma
that you were going through, you know, the writing helped
in the sense that it probably helped you form connection
versus verbally, you know, because you have that trust. You know,
there's a trusting that happens that comes along with trauma,
you know, and so you it's hard to it's hard
to bond, you know, it's hard to trust, and writing
(17:11):
sometimes helped you work through that process and lets people know.
Speaker 4 (17:16):
What's on your mind.
Speaker 3 (17:17):
You know, I'm gonna be real honest with you, please
right now. I don't trust anybody.
Speaker 5 (17:20):
Okay, I don't trust the soul.
Speaker 3 (17:25):
I'm over it, gotcha, it's me and my dog. I
just I cannot I have had it. I just it's
maybe one person, this woman, this amazing poet named Tamika
George and me Harper that I might and I say
that I'm saying it publicly, might be able to trust
ninety percent. You know what I mean? Because we're all human, right,
(17:48):
you know, so we all make mistakes. But I would say,
you know, I thought I found the love of my life,
and I just after unpacking it realized my mistake. And
we won't even get into that in this interview. But
I just I thought that I had found home and
that was going to be the one person that I trust.
And I just people are human and they will disappoint you,
and I just you know, no, I don't trust anybody.
Speaker 1 (18:12):
Well, what I want to say, Queen Sheep, is if
you're looking for somebody to trust, and I'm not inflicting
this on you, but I would look with an awful
lot of optimism towards Gold because I know you get
all well. But it's a good future for you if
you're looking for the first person to trust you.
Speaker 3 (18:35):
We just met, so we haven't even met in person yet,
so we will see you know.
Speaker 4 (18:39):
Yeah, right, it's over time, exactly, exactly, It's true.
Speaker 1 (18:43):
I just want to it's safe. On my part. I'm
asking like a profit. I'm a prophet, not that I
can see the future, but man, I can see with
your degree of honesty and gold ability to incorporate human
(19:03):
beings into her life. It's a pretty easy prophecy. You
and go All are going to be friends.
Speaker 3 (19:09):
You know what I've learned, Peter, I learned you know
I'm this. I can't believe I'm telling how this. I
remember sitting in my living room in Detroit, Michigan, freaking out,
and my parents came in, like what's wrong, what's wrong?
And I was seeing the future like I was seeing
my dog being hit by a car, and later on
(19:32):
my dog got hit by a car. And I have
learned call it what y'all want to call it. I
have learned to just call it discernment for my own
safety and peace. Right, So I have learned more recently now,
which I learned it earlier, but I didn't. But I'm
here now. I have learned to trust my discernment. In
(19:52):
as long as I trust my discernment, I am one
hundred percent safe. And I have learned that when I don't,
that's when things go awrived. So I definitely believe in
that power of mister Peter.
Speaker 4 (20:05):
Yes, she has. That inner voice is so incredibly important.
Speaker 1 (20:08):
You know.
Speaker 2 (20:09):
I always hope you'll learn how to listen to your
inner voice because it's not going to guide your own.
Speaker 1 (20:13):
Let me interrupt, okay, said, I'm finding an irony because
I am not going to be a major part of
your life, believe me. But I want to tell you
I trust you already. You're easy to trust. And I
guess that honesty is what.
Speaker 4 (20:29):
Right, the honesty of it the conversation.
Speaker 1 (20:32):
But maybe so you're easy to trust, although you find
other people difficult to trust.
Speaker 4 (20:42):
Yeah, that's an irony.
Speaker 2 (20:43):
So and once again, if you're just tuning in, you're
listening to finding out with Pete and the poet Goal.
I'm Peter and I'm the poet Goal. Then we're having
a conversation with Queen Shiba, who's out of Atlanta. She's
a Grammy the three time Grammy nominated artist on tour
with a an event called Poetry Versus Hip Hop and
it's going to be at the City Winery of Hudson
Valley on April thirtieth. And we're just fortunate to have
her up here and bringing the whole show up here
(21:06):
and done. I'm grateful to actually be a part of it.
There's something that came up, Oh you know you got
you got a short piece that you can share with folks.
Speaker 4 (21:14):
Do you feel like sharing? Yeah?
Speaker 3 (21:17):
Absolutely, And I want to say to the people listening,
you're being very humble. You're half of the show, ma'am.
You are intentionally half of the show. So the show
is two hours. People don't get there late. I told
y'all I'm biracial, so I'm black, So I start on time. Okay,
a black side starts on time because I respect people time.
(21:40):
I was sold a long time ago by an elder.
If you're late, you're disrespectful. Yes, so that's right. So
we're starting on time. So the doors open at six
and I believe we started seven thirty. Now City Winery
decides to hold the door of fifteen minutes that's on them,
but we will start on time, and it is a
friendly poetry versus hip hop. And I also want to
(22:01):
say that I am traveling these five dates with eight
times Grammy Award winning co collaborator with Kanye West, Malik Yusef,
who has written more than half of Kanye's catalog, which
they have a song out right now called Bully that
is doing really well on the charts. And he is
(22:24):
also has writing credits on Lemonade with Beyonce, and he's
written for Commons and he's written for John Legend and
he's a Grammy nominated poet as well for twenty twenty five.
So he is super relevant and pop and he's a
great guy, amazing poet, and so he's doing all five dates.
So it will be myself, a Malik Usep and poet
(22:45):
goes who are headlining this thing. And then I'm going
to give away a little bit of cash and some
silly prizes, maybe some bubbles or kites from the Dollars
store or something like that, you know, just for fun.
So we're going to have a good time. So y'all
make sure it's to come out and see at least
poet gold. I know y'all don't know me, but that's okay.
Speaker 4 (23:04):
I love you, So give us a little give us
a little taste.
Speaker 3 (23:08):
Sure, sir, this is called I am detaxing from sugar
in America. I'm detaxing from sugar and America, two substances
that melt on the tongue and rot the soul from
the inside out. I'm detaxing from the rush, the crusted
over sweetness of land of the Free, sold wholesale and
plastic tubs right next to the discounted hope and the
(23:29):
isle where truth expires quietly under fluorescent lights. I am
detaxing from the artificial corn syrups, the corn feels, the
corn fed politicians who promise joy, promise change, promise freedom,
and then send us home with the same cavities they
drilled into our grandmothers. The year is twenty twenty six,
in America is still sprinkling powdered sugar over violence and
(23:52):
calling the recipe here it is, I am detaxing from
delayed outrage. Another headline glazed in tragedy, another body preserved
in hashtags, Another bill passed in the darkness where we
were busy counting calories and casualties at the same time.
I want out. I want an island where the news
is a sound the wind makes as it breids through
(24:13):
the palm leaves, where the only politics of the negotiations
between ocean and sand, where nobody is trying to ban books,
bodily autonomy, or the vocabulary required to describe oppression accurately.
I want to beach but does not lie. Sugar never
hides there, water never gaslights, Sunlight never asked me to
smile for comfort or shrink for the sake of someone
(24:36):
else's convenience. I want to eat real food, mangos that
drip down my forearm grains ancient enough to remember who
we were before survival turned into curriculum. I want to
stretch my nervous system until it remembers how to choose
peace without permission. I want to journal with its actual
pen ink bleeding flow on Hones's paper, like truth that
(24:58):
finally stopped running. I am detoxing from sugar and America.
Both have taught me to crave what harms me, to swallow,
what angers me to think. The hand that fed me
poison because poison was pretty and promised to keep me awake, m.
Speaker 4 (25:16):
Lord have mercy. Yes, that is that is fire. How
much time do we have left? We were at the
end of the show down.
Speaker 1 (25:25):
We have five more minutes on this show.
Speaker 4 (25:26):
We have five I like you take it away, but
you know, there.
Speaker 1 (25:29):
Were so many great images in there. But are you
craving or yearning to have the only contention being between
the ocean and the sand? Is that's a very very
peaceful kind of image and so different from the other
stuff you were referring to. The I really liked it,
(25:52):
and I certainly liked the delivery.
Speaker 4 (25:55):
Yes, absolutely.
Speaker 2 (25:55):
And the food metaphor, I mean, Peter knows, I'm very much.
I'm a foodie and uh and often use food metaphors,
you know, because it's it's it's something I think that
people can relate to. They can envision, you know, they
can taste it and savor it.
Speaker 4 (26:11):
And that was savory. That was savory, for sure.
Speaker 1 (26:15):
But we already know enough. Although the audience knows your
poetry from you know, over the years people got to
know it. But Queen Sheepa's poem there. If you go
out on the to the show, you are going to
see some show. These two women are going at it
in terms of delivering the truth on an express train.
Speaker 2 (26:38):
Absolutely so so. So there's going to be an open
mic section, right, we have ten people? Yeah, short?
Speaker 4 (26:48):
Right?
Speaker 1 (26:48):
Right?
Speaker 3 (26:49):
Right?
Speaker 4 (26:49):
Ten people? Was it? Four minutes per per poem? Up
to right? Okay?
Speaker 2 (26:54):
Four minutes and so, and people can sign up for
the open mic if the list is not already filled,
you know, by the time folks here to hear the show.
And then we have the the slam, you know, the
friendly competition between.
Speaker 4 (27:07):
Poetry and hip poets and MC and what has that
been like?
Speaker 2 (27:12):
You know, we have what about three more minutes to wrap,
So what has that been like? The poetry versus hip hop?
Because this is not your first iteration of this is.
Speaker 3 (27:20):
Our eleventh year. Wow, you just celebrated our ten year anniversary.
This is our eleventh year. And let me just say
this to the hip hop artist listening, do you do
not mistake this for a poetry show. If you want
to talk about blah blah blah and blah blah blah,
I bet I can't say I'm iHeartRadio. Do your thing.
(27:43):
There are no language restrictions, and be confident on what
you're talking about. And if I were you, I would
come with the story. The best hip hop artists that
have won have told us about tragic stories that have happened,
because you know, these poets are going to come for
the heart story and that doesn't mean they're gonna come
soft at all. That just means they're gonna come hard.
(28:04):
And this isn't the dozens, So anybody listening that's gonna
come for the audience, They're not coming at each other.
They're doing the best poem for you, the audience, and
then you, the audience, decides which piece was best out
of the poet or the hip hop artists for that round,
and then we have a bonus round. So and I
never talk about the bonus round in media. You gotta
come and see it for yourself in person. It is live.
(28:27):
It is amazing. So I would just say for the
hip hop artists, come with your best story and just come.
Don't cuff the mic, and I'm telling y'all just come
clean and confident and make sure that you have a
show track that you're not talking over yourself, and you
(28:48):
will do amazing. I am a fan of hip hop.
I grew up with hip hop, and I do not
let anybody make fun of anybody, and I make sure
that everybody has even love on this age.
Speaker 1 (29:03):
Well, if you're not let anybody be mean to each other.
I believe this, there's gonna be no meanness in the house.
I mean none, right, And I believe you're a law
maker in that way or a law enforcer.
Speaker 3 (29:18):
Yes, because it's a friendly battle. We don't want no smoke.
No smoke.
Speaker 1 (29:23):
Well, no smoke's a good rule. But the bit of
fear that you put into the souls with mean people
will certainly keep them in check as the poetry and
the love flows so easily throughout the house. On the
twenty ninth of April.
Speaker 3 (29:47):
Thirtieth, twenty ninth will be in Philly. Don't come down
there unless you want to come to both right.
Speaker 4 (29:53):
Right, which more to welcome to.
Speaker 1 (29:55):
Yeah, the thirtieth.
Speaker 2 (29:57):
So we're wrapping up now, so we're just you know,
for though, to our listeners, I just want to simply say,
Queen Sheba, thank you so much for being here. We're
going to have you back again to talk about the show,
talk about everything that's coming on. And to our listeners,
thank you for listening to finding out with Pete in
the poet Gold, I appreciate you Amen,
The views and opinions expressed in the following programmer those
of the speaker and don't necessarily represent those of the
station it's staff, management or ownership. Good morning, you're finding
out with Pete and Poe Cold. I'm Peter Lemmonds and
I'm the poet Gold and we're on the ear this
morning with Queen Sheepa. And you're gonna learn or forgot
about Queen Sheepa said Abe, but not before a poet
(00:22):
Cold gives her a weekly poem, prayer, incantation, a goal,
Please let it roll?
Speaker 2 (00:27):
Okay, Well, speak to people about courage today. Courage a
shift in mind, creating peace among the broken pieces, resolute,
leaning into it, fearlessly, becoming your own sun by day,
the stars in the moon by night, navigating the darkness,
weightless in the galaxy, freeing yourself from paying the burden
(00:48):
from carrying heavy locks and change.
Speaker 1 (00:51):
Courage encourages one of the themes of I guess everyone's life,
but nobody's life more than Sheba. She's done a lot
of things in all of it. I think the theme
of coverage really would bring it together. I and Queen
(01:13):
should be you might want to just give us some
initial introduction to who you are. Lots of people in
the Hudson Valley don't know you yet, although I know
you have an awful lot of notoriety nationwide.
Speaker 3 (01:28):
I appreciate that. Yeah, it's okay. I enjoy meeting new people.
So I'm originally from Detroit, Michigan. I've been living in
Atlanta for twenty one years, almost twenty one years, and
I'm a three time Grammy nominated spoken word artist, a
two time NAACP Image Award nominee. I've had some other
(01:51):
super cool accolades. I was an adjunct professor at Clark
Atlanta University for five years, adjunct professor sou the New
Hampshire University for a year and a half. I run
my own virtual mentorship program online every Tuesday, and I'm
also a Weekend Warrior adult athlete. I like to swim, bike, run,
(02:15):
and I have a German Shepherd that I take everywhere
with me. So that's about the sum of my life.
And I love fashion.
Speaker 1 (02:22):
Does the German Shepherd do dog? Panel? To do the
dog peddle? I was a swimming culture number of years
and so aswimming is something the only athletic thing I
excel at but gold does no.
Speaker 2 (02:40):
No, what question is I've seen your dog on Instagram
and your dog is absolutely stunning.
Speaker 3 (02:47):
Oh, thank you so much.
Speaker 2 (02:49):
It really is definitely definitely sweetheart. You know, I want
to get right to it because I know that you
have the upcoming Poetry Versus Hip Hop tour in place,
and you're going to be at the sea the Winery
of the Hudson Valley April thirtieth, and I just want
to say, in advance of our listeners, thank you for
inviting me to be a part of that. I'm very
excited about it. But I was reading some online information
(03:11):
and I just want to just read a quote by
Caroline Rothstein from Columbia University who said, Queen Sheba has
used her pen, her voice, and her words to usher
us towards a glimpse of her soul.
Speaker 4 (03:27):
If only we could all be so.
Speaker 2 (03:29):
Brave, no matter what, no matter what, are our own truths.
I found that to be, you know, very profound, because
you know, like yourself, I mentored through poetry and your story.
I mean, if you don't mind sharing it, your foster
care story is so so profounds. It's sort of like
the phoenix rising from the ashes. You know, how can
(03:53):
you encapsulate that that journey for our listeners and the
impact that becoming a writer and becoming a poet, specifically
a spoken word poet has had on your life.
Speaker 3 (04:05):
Oh my gosh. I know it's cliche, everybody. I know
it's cliche. But if I didn't have poetry or the arts,
because I actually started dancing first and then I wasn't
very good at it, but at modern and jazz dancing
I loved and I still even try and I do
it in my videos sometimes. But you know, I just
(04:26):
and I continue to kind of sing like alternative rock.
I love like all the ram Chicago, the doors. I
grew up on Tina Turner and Jimmy Hendricks and just
you know, all the rock classics. And also I grew
up on Bach and Chopin and Beethoven and just just
a mix of music. And so I just love the
(04:49):
arts as a whole. And so I am bi racial.
My mother is white, and we use German and Cherokee directly.
So actually have Cherokee descent from Michigan. And I need
to like tap in if somebody knows how to do
that for me. I heard it's a long process. But
I need to tap into that. And then my father,
(05:09):
I hear, is black. And the only reason I say
I hear is because it was my mother who kept
me for eight months. And if you know what an
eight month baby does is like to a mother is
you're already up walking, like pulling yourself up on furniture,
like you know, you're connected and walking around, right, So
we're trying to walk around. And so my mother kept
(05:30):
me for eight months. And as a white woman, she
was one of nine and the youngest in her family.
Her father was directly Fyerokee and her mother was directly German,
and her father was like, I don't want this black
baby in my house talking about me, and so she
lied to her dad and said, well, I was gang
raped and I don't know who the father is. Let's
(05:52):
just such a traumatic thing to say, like wow, wow, yes, yes,
she said. She told them she was gang raped and
didn't know who the father was. And so a white
man came along and said, I'll marry you, but I
don't want this black baby, and so she put me
up for adoption at eight months old. So she had
already taken me home and attached with me. So I
have horrible, horrible, horrible attachment or detachment disorder, whichever it is.
(06:15):
I'm not a psycholagist sechiatrist, but it has messed with
me in my entire life and relationship. So then after her,
I was in three foster homes and one I was
sexually assaulted before I could even talk, which was horrible
by a a man or a young boy or teenage
(06:36):
boy or young maybe twenties eighteen nineteen named Kevin. And unfortunately,
with the family who adopted me, I have an older brother,
four years older than me named Kevin, who had nothing
to do with that because when I had when they
said his name, I would scream and scream and scream
and scream even if I didn't have words. So they
(06:56):
tried to adopt me, and I already have this trauma.
This is this white family moving from Jackson, Michigan to Detroit, Michigan.
They were already in their process, and so I grew
up in Detroit, not the suburbs. I grew up in
Detroit on the West Side. I went to public school.
I went to Vtall, then Luddington, and then I went
to cast Tech for my sophomore year. And cast Tech
(07:16):
is famous for Diana Ross and for the arts and
for dance and for singing, and they tore the old
building down made this new, beautiful building. But my sophomore year,
my adopted family and I guess just couldn't take it anymore.
They put me into a youth home. So now imagine
I'm fifteen years old and I've already been to how
many homes? Is this already? Like my attachment disorder is jacked?
Speaker 1 (07:40):
Right?
Speaker 3 (07:41):
I can I'm in this youth home from fifteen to sixteen.
Back up in Grant and Rapids, Michigan, which is northwest Michigan.
So I was born in Kalamazoo, I didn't say that.
So Calvilton was famous for the Kellogg's factory. So that's
where Kellogg's has made all the Kellogg's brands, Babe powder,
everything that's attached to Kellogg's with you sea, Yeah, so
(08:04):
it's you would be surprised at how many brands are
attached to Kellogg's, like thousands. But anyway, it's a very racist,
racist town and just a lot of white people there
that are just not keen to people of color at all.
And so so I go back up to Grand Rapids
Michigan in this closed youth home shout out to Wedgwood Acres,
(08:27):
which was, asqually, one of my best years of my life.
I needed structure, and I really like structure alive. I've
learned later my personality is concrete random. And so then
I go to this open youth home, also attached to
Wedgwood Acres, and then I graduate technically from what I'm technically.
(08:48):
I graduate from Grand Rapid Central, which I'm grateful for
but hate it because you know, you graduate from Cashtac
of the whole nother ballgame, right, So then I try
to run away from the from the youth home a
couple of times and then ended up not failing at that,
and then I literally end up just in this house
(09:09):
with my then boyfriend who was Puerto Rican, who is sorry,
who is Puerto Rican and his sister who literally was
just living on their owns through high school. And his
sister was a couple of years older, and she was
dating I promised the God, I could not make this up,
and she was dating a Dominican drug lord. And we
(09:31):
lived in the basement our senior year. I mean the
basement was you know, finished or whatever, but we lived
in the basement. As senior high school students, we went
to junior prom. I didn't go to senior prom. And
then I graduated. I was CouchSurfing literally as a senior.
Like nobody knew this. It was just just stress, stress
and stress every day. So people called me Hillary from
(09:58):
the Fresh Prince. I was over compensating for like my
self esteem with Jack and probably still is Jack and
if I want to be real honest about it, but
and I just you know, I was always wearing suits
to high school, Like who does that. I was, in
a briefcase, I was just a walking target for bullying,
you know.
Speaker 2 (10:15):
But but you do have you do have a fashion sense.
It's it's I've I've I've noticed that. I mean, I
didn't know you, you know, through all this transition, Okay,
but you do have a fascist sense, So it doesn't.
So it doesn't surprise me when you're saying, well, you know,
you kind of suit it up because you know, you.
Speaker 3 (10:30):
Know, well, I wanted to be Hillary from the Fresh
Prince that I don't say she was really older than me,
but you know, portraying a younger person in high school,
right right, right, right right. I didn't realize she was
acting Hillary. But I joined the track team and that
was really that was some good structure, and my track
coaches took me. I did track in volleyball, but I
(10:51):
didn't go to college right away. I didn't know what
to do. I didn't know how to do that process.
Like nobody walked me through that process. And so I
didn't go to college for four years. So the year
I should have graduated, and I got into all sorts
of trouble. And you can read it in my book,
It's Foster Care to Fame. It's on my website, The
Queen scheeba that live and.
Speaker 2 (11:10):
I'm going to towards you one second, just so so
those of who are tuning in will know who they're
listening to. If you're just tuning in, you're listening to
finding out with Pete and the Poet Gold, and I'm
the Poet Gold. We're having a wonderful conversation and interview
with Queen. Sheiba three time Grammy nominated artists as well
as a TED Talk speaker, and we're fortunate to have
her on the line with us, and she's coming up
(11:31):
with a tour here in the Hudson Valley that's stopping
in the Hudson Valley called Poetry Versus Hip Hop at
the Sydney Winery of Hudson Valley on April thirtieth. You know, Queen,
your story, I'm gonna let you continue, but your story
actually should be a movie.
Speaker 3 (11:46):
I mean, I'm listening to you, guys who I am
down for independent film. If there's anybody that's listening now
or in the future with playback and wants to hit
up me or poet Gold or Peter and get in
touch with me and wants to make this a movie.
I have always said that I definitely have the makings
for a lifetime documentary. So on my yes so on
(12:10):
my YouTube page, I have half a million views for
a documentary that Lexus did of me just last year
and it's only fifteen minutes and people were like, oh
my god, this is amazing. So shout out to Sihan
and the Poetry Lounges. They're the one. And I hit
him up the other day. I was like, Yo, we
got to do this movie. And then so he was like, well,
(12:30):
you got to move to la And I'm like, okay,
so let me do a GoFundMe to move to LA
for two years so we can make this movie.
Speaker 4 (12:37):
So what was the term for you?
Speaker 2 (12:39):
You know, you had mentioned that you had joined the
track team, which which then you know, enabled you to
get some structure in your life because usually you know,
team sports or sports in general bring structure to you.
There anyone who participates in it and maybe didn't have
it before, and so that structure began to take place,
that see for structure began was planted.
Speaker 4 (13:01):
So what was what was the turn for you to go?
Speaker 2 (13:05):
I think I want to, you know, sort of like
touch into the arts in any capacity, whether it was
whether it was writing.
Speaker 4 (13:11):
What was the bug that that that bit you?
Speaker 3 (13:14):
Well? Again, I don't mean to be super cliche, but
I also want to back up on the track saying
I actually started running when I was twelve, back in Detroit.
So okay, Grand Records was after Detroit. So I started
running when I was fifteen when Eddie Murphy came out
with Beverly Hills Cop maybe one, and he had on
(13:35):
that Mumford T shirt that Mumford is Mumford High School
in Detroit. Oh okay, yeah, and he wore it on
purpose purpose and we were all like, oh my god,
because we used to use Mumford's track to practice. I'm like,
oh my god, that's right, Like you know, but I
went to Castep but Mumford was one of the top
(13:58):
three elite. So it was month cast and Renaissance and King.
I'll put King in there, so King. So those were
the top four high schools in Detroit at the time.
I don't mean any disrespect if they've changed, you know,
for anybody listening, but those at the time, in the nineties,
those were the Ford. If you went to those four
high schools, you were like smart and created and artistic,
(14:20):
and you were you were going somewhere in life, you
know what I mean. People expected you to go to
college and so on and so forth. So anyway, so
that's when I was going to cast My father was excited.
He was like, oh, thank god, You're not going to
end up on the streets. And my my parents were
like weirdly cruel to me, even though they adopted me.
It was the weirdest thing. So anyway, I started with
(14:40):
the arts. Again, I don't mean to be cliche. I'm
just telling them the truth. Like I staid with the arts.
When I was seven, I wrote my first poem in
second grade. But I put because I feel like I've
always had this edge of black power, because I've overcompensated
always for being this life skinned woman. I'm like, I'm
I'm blacking. I've just been this angry black woman ever
(15:01):
since I came out of the wound.
Speaker 5 (15:02):
And my uh I put that there was black seven
years old, and they were like, there's no black in
the rainbow.
Speaker 3 (15:11):
I was like, well, if you put all the colors
in the rainbow, then there's black and the rainbow about
seven years old. And they're like, well, you're disqualified from
our first poetry contest. I've lost. And I was like,
you know what, I'm never losing another poach before I
knew anything about slam.
Speaker 1 (15:28):
But you know, so move on without recognize how funny
it is to be a seven year old angry black woman.
Oh yeah, that's.
Speaker 3 (15:41):
Oh yeah, definitely. And it just but writing has always
been my way to talk to people without talking to people.
And I learned, and really at a young age, that
the little kids can't help me. You know. I just
was thinking beyond my time. And I didn't know at
(16:02):
the time that I was autistic until my late mid forties.
And so then when I found out that I was
neurodiverg and I was like, oh, no, wonder, I was
a genius and all of them were regular. So I
had this insight that they didn't have. But I remember
(16:22):
being nine years old, like, you know what, I'm gonna
stop talking to these little kids because they can't help me.
And I was just spilling my business and being made
fun of and that just made it worse.
Speaker 5 (16:31):
Right, right, which which probably compounding me that And I
didn't know how to handle that because my parents were
like anti violence, and my next door neighbors, who were black,
because I remember I was in Detroit, they were.
Speaker 3 (16:43):
Like, no, you should beat them up. You should beat
them up. And my parents were like, don't touch them.
And I'm like, oh my god, what do I do? Right?
Speaker 2 (16:49):
All right, and more than likely some of the trauma
that you were going through, you know, the writing helped
in the sense that it probably helped you form connection
versus verbally, you know, because you have that trust. You know,
there's a trusting that happens that comes along with trauma,
you know, and so you it's hard to it's hard
to bond, you know, it's hard to trust, and writing
(17:11):
sometimes helped you work through that process and lets people know.
Speaker 4 (17:16):
What's on your mind.
Speaker 3 (17:17):
You know, I'm gonna be real honest with you, please
right now. I don't trust anybody.
Speaker 5 (17:20):
Okay, I don't trust the soul.
Speaker 3 (17:25):
I'm over it, gotcha, it's me and my dog. I
just I cannot I have had it. I just it's
maybe one person, this woman, this amazing poet named Tamika
George and me Harper that I might and I say
that I'm saying it publicly, might be able to trust
ninety percent. You know what I mean? Because we're all human, right,
(17:48):
you know, so we all make mistakes. But I would say,
you know, I thought I found the love of my life,
and I just after unpacking it realized my mistake. And
we won't even get into that in this interview. But
I just I thought that I had found home and
that was going to be the one person that I trust.
And I just people are human and they will disappoint you,
and I just you know, no, I don't trust anybody.
Speaker 1 (18:12):
Well, what I want to say, Queen Sheep, is if
you're looking for somebody to trust, and I'm not inflicting
this on you, but I would look with an awful
lot of optimism towards Gold because I know you get
all well. But it's a good future for you if
you're looking for the first person to trust you.
Speaker 3 (18:35):
We just met, so we haven't even met in person yet,
so we will see you know.
Speaker 4 (18:39):
Yeah, right, it's over time, exactly, exactly, It's true.
Speaker 1 (18:43):
I just want to it's safe. On my part. I'm
asking like a profit. I'm a prophet, not that I
can see the future, but man, I can see with
your degree of honesty and gold ability to incorporate human
(19:03):
beings into her life. It's a pretty easy prophecy. You
and go All are going to be friends.
Speaker 3 (19:09):
You know what I've learned, Peter, I learned you know
I'm this. I can't believe I'm telling how this. I
remember sitting in my living room in Detroit, Michigan, freaking out,
and my parents came in, like what's wrong, what's wrong?
And I was seeing the future like I was seeing
my dog being hit by a car, and later on
(19:32):
my dog got hit by a car. And I have
learned call it what y'all want to call it. I
have learned to just call it discernment for my own
safety and peace. Right, So I have learned more recently now,
which I learned it earlier, but I didn't. But I'm
here now. I have learned to trust my discernment. In
(19:52):
as long as I trust my discernment, I am one
hundred percent safe. And I have learned that when I don't,
that's when things go awrived. So I definitely believe in
that power of mister Peter.
Speaker 4 (20:05):
Yes, she has. That inner voice is so incredibly important.
Speaker 1 (20:08):
You know.
Speaker 2 (20:09):
I always hope you'll learn how to listen to your
inner voice because it's not going to guide your own.
Speaker 1 (20:13):
Let me interrupt, okay, said, I'm finding an irony because
I am not going to be a major part of
your life, believe me. But I want to tell you
I trust you already. You're easy to trust. And I
guess that honesty is what.
Speaker 4 (20:29):
Right, the honesty of it the conversation.
Speaker 1 (20:32):
But maybe so you're easy to trust, although you find
other people difficult to trust.
Speaker 4 (20:42):
Yeah, that's an irony.
Speaker 2 (20:43):
So and once again, if you're just tuning in, you're
listening to finding out with Pete and the poet Goal.
I'm Peter and I'm the poet Goal. Then we're having
a conversation with Queen Shiba, who's out of Atlanta. She's
a Grammy the three time Grammy nominated artist on tour
with a an event called Poetry Versus Hip Hop and
it's going to be at the City Winery of Hudson
Valley on April thirtieth. And we're just fortunate to have
her up here and bringing the whole show up here
(21:06):
and done. I'm grateful to actually be a part of it.
There's something that came up, Oh you know you got
you got a short piece that you can share with folks.
Speaker 4 (21:14):
Do you feel like sharing? Yeah?
Speaker 3 (21:17):
Absolutely, And I want to say to the people listening,
you're being very humble. You're half of the show, ma'am.
You are intentionally half of the show. So the show
is two hours. People don't get there late. I told
y'all I'm biracial, so I'm black, So I start on time. Okay,
a black side starts on time because I respect people time.
(21:40):
I was sold a long time ago by an elder.
If you're late, you're disrespectful. Yes, so that's right. So
we're starting on time. So the doors open at six
and I believe we started seven thirty. Now City Winery
decides to hold the door of fifteen minutes that's on them,
but we will start on time, and it is a
friendly poetry versus hip hop. And I also want to
(22:01):
say that I am traveling these five dates with eight
times Grammy Award winning co collaborator with Kanye West, Malik Yusef,
who has written more than half of Kanye's catalog, which
they have a song out right now called Bully that
is doing really well on the charts. And he is
(22:24):
also has writing credits on Lemonade with Beyonce, and he's
written for Commons and he's written for John Legend and
he's a Grammy nominated poet as well for twenty twenty five.
So he is super relevant and pop and he's a
great guy, amazing poet, and so he's doing all five dates.
So it will be myself, a Malik Usep and poet
(22:45):
goes who are headlining this thing. And then I'm going
to give away a little bit of cash and some
silly prizes, maybe some bubbles or kites from the Dollars
store or something like that, you know, just for fun.
So we're going to have a good time. So y'all
make sure it's to come out and see at least
poet gold. I know y'all don't know me, but that's okay.
Speaker 4 (23:04):
I love you, So give us a little give us
a little taste.
Speaker 3 (23:08):
Sure, sir, this is called I am detaxing from sugar
in America. I'm detaxing from sugar and America, two substances
that melt on the tongue and rot the soul from
the inside out. I'm detaxing from the rush, the crusted
over sweetness of land of the Free, sold wholesale and
plastic tubs right next to the discounted hope and the
(23:29):
isle where truth expires quietly under fluorescent lights. I am
detaxing from the artificial corn syrups, the corn feels, the
corn fed politicians who promise joy, promise change, promise freedom,
and then send us home with the same cavities they
drilled into our grandmothers. The year is twenty twenty six,
in America is still sprinkling powdered sugar over violence and
(23:52):
calling the recipe here it is, I am detaxing from
delayed outrage. Another headline glazed in tragedy, another body preserved
in hashtags, Another bill passed in the darkness where we
were busy counting calories and casualties at the same time.
I want out. I want an island where the news
is a sound the wind makes as it breids through
(24:13):
the palm leaves, where the only politics of the negotiations
between ocean and sand, where nobody is trying to ban books,
bodily autonomy, or the vocabulary required to describe oppression accurately.
I want to beach but does not lie. Sugar never
hides there, water never gaslights, Sunlight never asked me to
smile for comfort or shrink for the sake of someone
(24:36):
else's convenience. I want to eat real food, mangos that
drip down my forearm grains ancient enough to remember who
we were before survival turned into curriculum. I want to
stretch my nervous system until it remembers how to choose
peace without permission. I want to journal with its actual
pen ink bleeding flow on Hones's paper, like truth that
(24:58):
finally stopped running. I am detoxing from sugar and America.
Both have taught me to crave what harms me, to swallow,
what angers me to think. The hand that fed me
poison because poison was pretty and promised to keep me awake, m.
Speaker 4 (25:16):
Lord have mercy. Yes, that is that is fire. How
much time do we have left? We were at the
end of the show down.
Speaker 1 (25:25):
We have five more minutes on this show.
Speaker 4 (25:26):
We have five I like you take it away, but
you know, there.
Speaker 1 (25:29):
Were so many great images in there. But are you
craving or yearning to have the only contention being between
the ocean and the sand? Is that's a very very
peaceful kind of image and so different from the other
stuff you were referring to. The I really liked it,
(25:52):
and I certainly liked the delivery.
Speaker 4 (25:55):
Yes, absolutely.
Speaker 2 (25:55):
And the food metaphor, I mean, Peter knows, I'm very much.
I'm a foodie and uh and often use food metaphors,
you know, because it's it's it's something I think that
people can relate to. They can envision, you know, they
can taste it and savor it.
Speaker 4 (26:11):
And that was savory. That was savory, for sure.
Speaker 1 (26:15):
But we already know enough. Although the audience knows your
poetry from you know, over the years people got to
know it. But Queen Sheepa's poem there. If you go
out on the to the show, you are going to
see some show. These two women are going at it
in terms of delivering the truth on an express train.
Speaker 2 (26:38):
Absolutely so so. So there's going to be an open
mic section, right, we have ten people? Yeah, short?
Speaker 4 (26:48):
Right?
Speaker 1 (26:48):
Right?
Speaker 3 (26:49):
Right?
Speaker 4 (26:49):
Ten people? Was it? Four minutes per per poem? Up
to right? Okay?
Speaker 2 (26:54):
Four minutes and so, and people can sign up for
the open mic if the list is not already filled,
you know, by the time folks here to hear the show.
And then we have the the slam, you know, the
friendly competition between.
Speaker 4 (27:07):
Poetry and hip poets and MC and what has that
been like?
Speaker 2 (27:12):
You know, we have what about three more minutes to wrap,
So what has that been like? The poetry versus hip hop?
Because this is not your first iteration of this is.
Speaker 3 (27:20):
Our eleventh year. Wow, you just celebrated our ten year anniversary.
This is our eleventh year. And let me just say
this to the hip hop artist listening, do you do
not mistake this for a poetry show. If you want
to talk about blah blah blah and blah blah blah,
I bet I can't say I'm iHeartRadio. Do your thing.
(27:43):
There are no language restrictions, and be confident on what
you're talking about. And if I were you, I would
come with the story. The best hip hop artists that
have won have told us about tragic stories that have happened,
because you know, these poets are going to come for
the heart story and that doesn't mean they're gonna come
soft at all. That just means they're gonna come hard.
(28:04):
And this isn't the dozens, So anybody listening that's gonna
come for the audience, They're not coming at each other.
They're doing the best poem for you, the audience, and
then you, the audience, decides which piece was best out
of the poet or the hip hop artists for that round,
and then we have a bonus round. So and I
never talk about the bonus round in media. You gotta
come and see it for yourself in person. It is live.
(28:27):
It is amazing. So I would just say for the
hip hop artists, come with your best story and just come.
Don't cuff the mic, and I'm telling y'all just come
clean and confident and make sure that you have a
show track that you're not talking over yourself, and you
(28:48):
will do amazing. I am a fan of hip hop.
I grew up with hip hop, and I do not
let anybody make fun of anybody, and I make sure
that everybody has even love on this age.
Speaker 1 (29:03):
Well, if you're not let anybody be mean to each other.
I believe this, there's gonna be no meanness in the house.
I mean none, right, And I believe you're a law
maker in that way or a law enforcer.
Speaker 3 (29:18):
Yes, because it's a friendly battle. We don't want no smoke.
No smoke.
Speaker 1 (29:23):
Well, no smoke's a good rule. But the bit of
fear that you put into the souls with mean people
will certainly keep them in check as the poetry and
the love flows so easily throughout the house. On the
twenty ninth of April.
Speaker 3 (29:47):
Thirtieth, twenty ninth will be in Philly. Don't come down
there unless you want to come to both right.
Speaker 4 (29:53):
Right, which more to welcome to.
Speaker 1 (29:55):
Yeah, the thirtieth.
Speaker 2 (29:57):
So we're wrapping up now, so we're just you know,
for though, to our listeners, I just want to simply say,
Queen Sheba, thank you so much for being here. We're
going to have you back again to talk about the show,
talk about everything that's coming on. And to our listeners,
thank you for listening to finding out with Pete in
the poet Gold, I appreciate you Amen,
Popular Podcasts
Dateline NBC
Current and classic episodes, featuring compelling true-crime mysteries, powerful documentaries and in-depth investigations. Follow now to get the latest episodes of Dateline NBC completely free, or subscribe to Dateline Premium for ad-free listening and exclusive bonus content: DatelinePremium.com
Hey Jonas!
Hey Jonas! The official Jonas Brothers podcast. Hosted by Kevin, Joe, and Nick Jonas. It’s the Jonas Brothers you know... musicians, actors, and well, yes, brothers. Now, they’re sharing another side of themselves in the playful, intimate, and irreverent way only they can. Spend time with the Jonas Brothers here and stay a little bit longer for deep conversations like never before.
Betrayal Weekly
Betrayal Weekly is back for a new season. Every Thursday, Betrayal Weekly shares first-hand accounts of broken trust, shocking deceptions, and the trail of destruction they leave behind. Hosted by Andrea Gunning, this weekly ongoing series digs into real-life stories of betrayal and the aftermath. From stories of double lives to dark discoveries, these are cautionary tales and accounts of resilience against all odds. From the producers of the critically acclaimed Betrayal series, Betrayal Weekly drops new episodes every Thursday. If you would like to share your story, you can reach out to the Betrayal Team by emailing them at betrayalpod@gmail.com and follow us on Instagram at @betrayalpod and @glasspodcasts. Please join our Substack for additional exclusive content, curated book recommendations, and community discussions. Sign up FREE by clicking this link Beyond Betrayal Substack. Join our community dedicated to truth, resilience, and healing. Your voice matters! Be a part of our Betrayal journey on Substack.