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Speaker 1 (00:01):
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Speaker 2 (00:11):
Good morning, you'll find out Pete the poet Gold.
Speaker 1 (00:13):
I'm Peter and I'm the poet Gold.
Speaker 2 (00:15):
And we're on the air together along with Uncle Mike
Hanson talking about Thanksgiving. But before we get to the
whole team talking about Thanksgiving, let's go right to the
poet goal for her weekly poem prayer incantation goal. Please
let it roll.
Speaker 1 (00:29):
Well, I'm going to do actually an excerpt out of
my book be the poem living Beyond Our Fears. One
of the stories I have in here is called Grateful Spirit.
And let me do this.
Speaker 2 (00:40):
So this is not a poem, this is prose, right,
oh yeah, regular writing.
Speaker 1 (00:46):
Okay, this is just an excerpt do an evolutionary process.
We've been given such a beautiful gift Earth. We did
not have our hands in its creation, but we do
have our hands and its sustainability, as we have our
hands in the human connection. But our fears make us
behave in a dominant fashion, claiming lands, people, and destroying
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all forms of life humans, plants, and animals. They hinder
what I believe is the next step in human evolution,
spiritual growth. We have the potential to become higher on
the spiritual evolutionary level, understanding the interconnectedness of our ecosystem
of life and humankind, and gratitude is deeply embedded in
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that journey.
Speaker 2 (01:31):
Amen, tell that, and I might make a local note
to that. There was a theologian Catholic theologian or French
Theologiano day shutdown, and he was very progressive, a Catholic priest.
He was sort of suppressed by the dominant church for
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a while for a long time, but he I had
a concept of what he called a new sphere uh
and the word news is from Greek word meaning spiritual mind,
and but he spelled the n O O s newsphere
and his thought he was a evolutionary biologist. But his
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theory was we're going to evolve into something higher on
the spiritual level of what you're talking about now. And
that's interesting, but what's even more important locally, he's buried
at the Culinari Institute of America, which used to be
the Jesuit seminary for the area. So I mean this
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world famous theologian shade is buried th h okay and parenthetically, well,
when I was growing up, you know, I've been Irish
Catholic Queen's which was a very I always say it's
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like being brought up by the Catholics Taliban. In my neighborhood,
it was. It was really rough and my father was.
Speaker 3 (03:11):
Back in the day you would get your knuckle slut
for that.
Speaker 2 (03:13):
Oh yeah, man, the knuckles please is But my father
was a very thoughtful guy, was a police captain in
New York and he was more what we would call
today open all liberal than the other neighbors. But I
remember in nineteen sixty two or three Life magazine Rain
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something a thing on Tayar front cover picture, and my
father cut out one of the injury of portrait pictures
of Taart and hung it in my little in my
house and I said, who's that? And he said, if
I have any chance to get into heaven, that's my chance,
you know, tear you know, like he was, And it
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sucked with me enough. I'm twelve, So uh, I'm mentioning
it today. And let me say I'm mentioning it today
in the spirit of thanks for the for the poem
for my father, for Tea, and for our audience who
was listening today. Thank you for letting me get through
that story.
Speaker 1 (04:17):
No, that's that's that's fine.
Speaker 3 (04:19):
Interesting concept you brought up in that little bit of
prose that you read people that we were not involved
in the creation, but we.
Speaker 1 (04:26):
Are involved in the sustainability.
Speaker 3 (04:29):
And that's something people don't think about. Right, some of
the people you talk to, you think were there when
it was created. The way they talked, I had a
hand in it, you know, Yeah, that's not true.
Speaker 2 (04:38):
We didn't, right, right, don't care if it's there when
they either, that's more common.
Speaker 1 (04:46):
That's so true. Yeah, you know when I was when
I was writing The Grateful Spirit, I really that poem. Yes,
it's called the gross Grateful Spirit. Yes, you know, it's
just the interconnectedness between clean everything around us is what
I wanted to convey. That we're not we're not apart from,
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but we're a part of.
Speaker 2 (05:10):
Yea.
Speaker 3 (05:10):
I wish the rest of the world would think that way.
It would change a lot of things. I think really
would that that that mentality, that culture would would something
that we'd all like to be part of. But there's
a lot of parts of the world are part of
it right now?
Speaker 1 (05:25):
Yeah, well, well maybe maybe they'll go out and get
the book. Getting the book and and if they get
the book off of my website, which is Poetgold dot com. Uh,
part of the proceeds I donate to a local nonprofit
here in Poughkeepsie called Real Skills Network. And so so,
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I even though that the book is available on Amazon
and Barnes and Nobles, I'm directing people to the poet
Gold site. So this way it can go directly to
to a nonprofit.
Speaker 2 (05:57):
Nice. Another exercise and Thanksgiving, yeah, absolutely, yeah. And you
know when we uh, with Thanksgiving coming up, Thanksgiving is
you know, both a holiday and a spiritual condition. Uh
and uh, you know, we try to bring the two
together a little bit around Thanksgiving on the holiday, but
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having us reflect on, you know, why we are grateful,
what we're grateful for.
Speaker 3 (06:27):
Well, Thanksgiving, I think is a fascinating holiday when you
think about it. They can't monetize it really like they
do with some of the other holidays. You don't here,
you know, the car dealers aren't having a Thanksgiving car sale.
It's not happening right right.
Speaker 1 (06:40):
It falls into a holiday sale type thing.
Speaker 3 (06:43):
Yeah, and it actually is a four day weekend usually,
so you would think that they would try to capitalize,
but somehow they haven't figured that out yet. I hope
they don't. It's nice if they don't.
Speaker 1 (06:52):
Well, I think they sort of do in a sense
of with Black Friday and Cyber Monday. That happens immediately.
Like everyone knows that day after Thanksgiving is the day
that you're going to go shopping, you know, so I
think they sort of. But you're right, they haven't isolated
that one day, you know.
Speaker 2 (07:10):
I mean, even the way you put it, the day
after Thanksgiving, it goes on Christmas kicked.
Speaker 1 (07:15):
That's right, right, right.
Speaker 3 (07:17):
But Thanksgiving is one of those holidays that I think
is very different to a lot of different people. A
lot of families celebrate in a different way, you know.
You know, the latest funny thing is, you know the
best way to cut down on your Christmas gift buying
is talk about politics at the Thanksgiving day.
Speaker 2 (07:35):
That's true.
Speaker 3 (07:36):
Get I'm angry at the table.
Speaker 1 (07:38):
Speak to them till January.
Speaker 2 (07:39):
Right, We'll get some of the politics before the end
of this show, because is a lot to be grateful
if we're in with the American constitution. Sure, and but
it occurred to me not for a while that you know,
if you take on traditional Catholic theology, which we brushed
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by earlier, and you took up at the last judgment,
you know you die. You get judges, not the issan,
but you get the individual judgment. My sensor is God
to answer you to questions. I can see you both
get answered with the question we can cheat on you, Yeah,
But I answer questions of who have you given a
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fair shake to? And who has given you a fair shake?
And the second question is the more important one. In
other words, the people you might have treated well, okay,
that's important, a good barama of how your life when
or what your values are. But my sense is for
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you to know who gave you a fair shake is
more important because it's a measurement of gratitude. In other words,
if you if your answer nobody ever gave me a
fair shake, it might be factually true, which is own tragedy.
But my sense is if you think nobody gave you
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a fair shake, you haven't been open enough the grace
of other people that you're ungrateful, so that who gave
you a fair shake is a real good question. Your
immortal soul depends on it.
Speaker 3 (09:22):
Well, that's interesting that I haven't you have to think
about that. I mean, and be honest with you, I think, sadly,
the way our culture has created, and myself included, is
I think you remember the ones that didn't give you
the fair shake a lot more. I think no, honestly,
I think it sticks in your head. And maybe that's
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just the culture we've created. But you know, I've got
a lot of people that you know, that I love dearly,
that have done so much for me. I can say
there's a lot of people that have given me a
fair I believe there's a lot of given me. Sure, yes, yes,
But there are the ones that haven't that still sticking.
I don't get them. You know, you can forgive, but
you don't forget, right, all right, But I would let
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the first question you ask, how many people have you?
I would hope this. I would want to say that
I give everybody a fear. I'd like to believe that
you give everybody a fair shake or a fair chance.
And I really try to give everybody. I mean, you
know there's a limit. Obviously you try to, you know,
you try to. You know, my better half. Tina. I
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kid with people all the time. She she tries to
see the good in everybody, and I mean, I mean
Hitler to walk through that door. She tried to figure
out something good about her and she really does try.
And we you know, we have every now and then
she gets angry with me because I'm like, yeah, you know,
somebody will do something over the years and I'm like, yeah,
well I'm done that. I've given them, you know, kind
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of the three strikes and you're out rule and they're
at three strikes, so I'm not going to do anything
to them or mean to them. I'm not gonna have
They're not going to be part of my life because
I don't need that.
Speaker 1 (10:57):
Right Right is the time we asked me the question
I'm a signalant? Is that time if you're just tuning in,
you listen to finding out what Pete and the poet Gold.
Speaker 2 (11:05):
I'm Peter, I'm uncle and I'm.
Speaker 1 (11:08):
The poet Gold and we're here having a conversation about Thanksgiving,
uh being, being grateful and gratitude and Peter asked an
interesting question.
Speaker 2 (11:16):
But Gold hooks and when I noticed a sign for her,
it's a show, and she gave me a look that
was both quizzical like what's going on and I'll show
a little critically.
Speaker 1 (11:32):
So I wasn't even sure if the hand was okay.
We were switching from Uncle Mike to go, okay, you
answer this question or you know so, but.
Speaker 2 (11:41):
Talk about gratitude. The time goes very very quick.
Speaker 1 (11:44):
Yeah, absolutely, absolutely, It's an easy conversation. I think part
of that question is sort of the question I asked
people of who he wished to be in the world,
you know, like every day you wake up and who
do you wish to be in the world, because it
sort of places you on the path of the question
that you have had asked about who has been gracious
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to you, so to speak, having that sort of awareness
consciously and intentionally, having having the awareness of who has
sort of treated you well in your life and who
have you in turn treat it well? And so what
type of person do you wish? Do you want to
be the person that brings harm in your day? Just today,
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not let's not talk about tomorrow, but just today, you know,
or do you do you want to be the person
that needs to receive? And how how do you receive?
Because if you if you can't receive. Then are you
really being genuine and are you living with a sense
of vulnerability to be open to receive who you don't receive,
or you're protecting something else.
Speaker 3 (12:47):
That first question, too, Peter, is interesting. I was so
blessed the way I was brought up that I can
remember my father saying so many times it's not not
what can you take with you when you go? When
did you leave behind? That's what you've got to be
conscious of. That's what you should be devoting your time to.
And I know some of the conversations you and I
have had about your you're you know, you have a
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very interesting philosophy on wealth that there's people just should
be just a limit as to how wealthy you can get,
and then there should be a cutoff. Yes, but along
nose lines you have to be exactly what you're saying,
almost And when you said that before, I all of
a sudden kind of understood more about what your philosophy
was with wealth is you can't concentrate on and you know,
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how much can I get? And what can I take
with me? You've got to concentrate on what you're leaving behind, right,
because that's what you're going to be judged when you
get up to wherever the pearly gates, wherever we end
up going, You're going to be judged on that.
Speaker 1 (13:42):
And it's how we look at wealth, you know.
Speaker 2 (13:44):
And I want to say, if you're not willing to
leave the wealth, the rest of us should take it
different the less polite form of what I think, but
a way of going into that issue, which is about
wealth and political life and social policy even coming in
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today on gold, this old Gold. The story about my
high school based at High School in Queens. It was
built in nineteen thirty, from thirty four to thirty six,
and it, like a lot of other high schools in
New York City, were built in that time, and every
one of them had a pool, okay, and I wound
up being excelling as swimming over the years. In high school,
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I was one of the two or three best fimens
in New York. In college, I was the best fimer
in New York. It was I'm not bragging. She went
about fifty years ago. The point is there was a
public policy decision made, Okay, let's include pools. And it's
the height of the depression. You might say, we don't
have the money. We always have the money for the kid.
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And my life is vastly different because I was able
to excel at swimming because the based at high school pool.
And in terms of how politics now is a great
emphasis on how much money can we save, even if
it's at the expense of children or poor people, you know,
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and public policy counts. And the people who made that decision,
I don't know any of them personally, but I feel
they looked out for me. Absolutely grateful. I'm grateful to
the person in the nineteen early thirties saying no, now,
let's put a pool into the high school.
Speaker 1 (15:30):
And what I pointed out to Peter in that on
a local level, you know, just my personal disappointment is
how the Why was shut down for whatever reasons, you know,
poorly managed, you know, in the city of Poughkeepsie or whatever.
But that's been at least fifteen seventeen years something like that.
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I mean, I used to take Caitlin, my younger cousin
who passed away. Actually this is our anniversary every day,
but but she used to go to that Why. You know,
they had swimming classes and you know, and then the
Why was gone, and you know, and I know there's
been some sort of effort, but but I don't really
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feel there's been a strong enough effort to put that
back into the city and the youth. The youth needed.
There are great organizations, all of us do really great work,
but there needs to be that central space for youth
in a city like Poughkeepsie to go to. And the
fact that that's been neglected just it's extremely disappointing and
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and and it bothers me.
Speaker 2 (16:36):
Yeah, and it affects every single kid, right. Educational policy
makes it different every kid in America. You get rid
of the education Department federally, a lot of kids are
going to lose out locally.
Speaker 3 (16:48):
Right, Well, it's interesting talking about Thanksgiving is what we're
talking about. So you know, you're you're pointing out how
thankful you were that you grew up in an arrow
where that was the way the mindset was that they were.
They didn't work, they were the beam counters. Weren't saying
we can't do that. There's no we're gonna do it,
and we're going to figure out how we're going to
do it.
Speaker 2 (17:05):
Right.
Speaker 3 (17:05):
Well, that doesn't happen today today. I really truly believe
everything is driven by money, by numbers, by by finances.
Everything is driven that way and there's no moral issues involved.
It's it's it's on a piece of paper. We can't
afford it, we're not doing it. Back then they figured
out a way to get around that. Well, maybe we
can't afford it, but we are doing it, and we
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did it so.
Speaker 1 (17:27):
And being able to have the foresight and the emotion
intelligence enough to understand what that pool is going to
do for the future, you know, not like it may
seem like, oh, you got a bunch of kids swimming around. No,
you have a child whose life potentially can be transformed
because you're giving them access to that.
Speaker 3 (17:45):
And it's interesting. My high school Morrow Woodbury, the high
school the one I have now probably has a spot.
I mean the one that in there now is they go.
But the one I had was if you ever go
to Woodbury Common, so one up on the hill that's
where I went to high school. It was fairly new.
When I went to high school. There was a full
sized Olympic pool in there and they had a very
strong swimming program. But the advantage to that was there
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was two or three nights a week where it was
open to the public. They had and and you know,
so in the middle of the winter when it was
snowing out and you could go to the high school
and jump in the pool and spend a couple hours
in the warm water enjoying yourself. So it was not
only the students that benefit from that, it was the
community to benefit.
Speaker 2 (18:25):
And I mentioned so well too. It's a public based
at high school where I was in grammar school, Lady
Most Blessed sacrament In Baside, we had a swimming team
and there was a great swimming league, a Catholic swimming
league in Queens because every Catholic school was around a
public school that had a pool, so that you had
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this whole league. It was a Catholic league, but it
was without mentioning, publicly supported by the community pools in
the high schools. Great stuff and nail Mike without trying
to be uh mean about it. Well, when you talk
about we have being counters now and you know we're
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always every dollar gets accounted for then, but what we're
saving the forts he gives tax backs to the richest
people who have lived in the world. I mean, so
it's really crazy.
Speaker 3 (19:19):
The system is definitely broken. Yes, it is on a
lot of levels.
Speaker 2 (19:22):
Yes, the simplest level, when you want to take money
away from the poor people, you give to the rich
people's that's the only level.
Speaker 3 (19:31):
Of the count. But there's so many different avenues for that.
I agree with what you're saying about taking, but there's
so many other places that it's being taken from that
affect so many people's lives, and yet it still goes on.
Speaker 1 (19:43):
It doesn't stop, right, it doesn't stop. If you're just
tuning in, you're listening to finding out with Pete the
poet Gold, I'm Peter, I'm Uncle Mike, and I'm the
poet Goal. Then we're talking about having the grateful spirit.
Speaker 2 (19:54):
Yeah, And what I want to say is gratitude gon
comes at many levels. Usually we think of at a
completely personal level. And what I want to say is
the personal level accounts already mentioned. You know how grateful
i am to my own upbringing in my family, and
I'm grateful to the public policies that allowed swimming to
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flourishing in Bay Size Queen's And I'm looking forward to
participating in public policy that makes more opportunity for more
young people. And if that comes at the expense. Another
controversial thing Michael, if it comes at the expense of
every seventy five year old, which includes me, the seventy
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five year olds gets their first aspirant after every kid
in America is really taking care of you know. So
I have an anti old person bias, and I want
to make it clear the kids get priority.
Speaker 3 (20:50):
Well, I think everyone who has children, you do. Most
of the people that I know, and myself included. You're
a kid, it do come first.
Speaker 2 (21:02):
You know.
Speaker 3 (21:02):
When you when you're young and you have a child,
first of all, it's a completely new territory. You've spent
your whole life really worrying about yourself for lack of
a better word, you know, and all of a sudden,
now you've brought this little life into the world that
is completely dependent on you. And if you don't put
them first, it's it's not going to turn out well.
And and sadly, there's a lot that don't. There's a
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lot of a lot of people have children that don't
don't do that, some but most do. Mostly, you know,
I can tell you. I know my parents went without
a lot for us, and I've gone out without a
lot for my son, and you have to. But it's
it's almost Peter like, it's a it's part of I
think it's part of your it's nature. Maybe I don't know,
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because it's not something you're prepared for, and you you're not.
I mean, I guess you you base how you take
care of your children and how your parents took care
of you.
Speaker 1 (21:54):
Right if they if they had the tools, you know,
to be able to to be able to.
Speaker 3 (21:58):
Do that, well, not only the tools, so, but I
know how much my mother and father and by the
time I came along, I was the fifth of five children,
and my oldest brother is fourteen years older. So by
the time I got there, they had a lot of
experience when right right, that's my father was doing a
lot better. And I get accused of being spoiled all
the time by my chilthers and sisters because they had
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a better situation. I didn't choose to be born then.
I was just I'm kind of happy I was. I
probably had it easier than they did. But I think
it's it's an innate part of your nature. I think
that it has to be. I mean, you learn obviously.
What I'm trying to say is you learn a lot
as you grow and you've got to have that core
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that you're talking about where you know when you say
it all the time. Now, if it comes down to
me or the kids, the kids go first, and that's
part of your nature.
Speaker 2 (22:47):
Yeah, And I want to say that that sound only
my personal nasu is my political nature, you know. And
in terms of having the tools, I mean very often
we think of poverty as depriving people of parenting tools,
and it does, but wealth and greed do too. So
if you're making a ton of money, it's much more
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exciting to go be a big shot at the business
end of that night than to be home with your
family cooking more hamburgers.
Speaker 1 (23:17):
And money doesn't necessarily give you the tools of rage children.
I think it hurts them right right, absolutely.
Speaker 3 (23:24):
Seen children that have suffered from having parents.
Speaker 2 (23:27):
Yeah, because I mean the parents, I'm trying to be sympathetic,
they get greedy. In other words, money is like booze.
If you drink enough of it, you get drunk. And
if you're drunk, you're not good at.
Speaker 3 (23:39):
Being a parent, and you do get addicted to it.
Speaker 2 (23:44):
Yes, yeah, money is that's why it's a charitable thing.
When I you know the short form of it, say
you know, being a billionaire should be illegal because it's
not only not good for society. We have a lot
of things we need to do more pool the bill,
but it's also not good for you. Being a billionaires
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gives you such a warped sense of your own self worth.
You know.
Speaker 3 (24:08):
We like to try it for a week.
Speaker 1 (24:12):
I like to spend it on all the things I
want to spend it on, you know, buil building, UH building,
youth centers and you know, and and giving the nonprofits
and you know, and and programs for medicine to heal
that so well, I know, I know I'm doing that.
I know I do that.
Speaker 3 (24:29):
But here's an interesting question.
Speaker 1 (24:31):
But the little extra cash would allow me to really
do it on a whole other level.
Speaker 3 (24:36):
An interesting question. So I just noticed that the mega
drawing is nine hundred million dollars.
Speaker 1 (24:43):
Oh was it?
Speaker 3 (24:43):
Maybe I'll go put my my question. People ask, you
know all the time, Hey, if you hit something, would
you do? I say, I'd give most of the it
a work. You don't need nine hundred million though, right right?
I mean I would have a comfortable life. I make
sure absolutely was left over. I would give it away.
I would I've got lever charities that would benefit tremendously
because I would give it to them.
Speaker 2 (25:03):
And you've heard me say this before. You also have
a corollary in terms of political power. You know, what
do they bothering? Why don't they you go sit in
the beach someplace. And my sense is you have excess rationality.
The thing is you, I suspect, never had nine hundred
million dollars. And the thing is when you get it,
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and it's going to my point, you get cheap. You
don't get more lavish, a middle class attitude say, okay,
it makes sense if I have way more than I
need for a couple of generations and give the rest away.
When you get that money, the evidence is we have
no evidence of somebody really giving it all away.
Speaker 3 (25:46):
Or even I've already said I've already got it figured
out where it's going. Peter.
Speaker 2 (25:51):
I hope you don't get drunk on the greed. I
know for a fact I would really Yeah, I would
give away a lot of money, but we would the
you have to put up my attitude of well I'll
give it to you. I'm not going to you know,
it would be terrible for me to.
Speaker 1 (26:06):
Be well and in a spirit of and how much
time do we have in a spirit of? Then? Yeah, yeah,
Since it's Caitlin's birthday today, November eleventh, I just wanted
to read a poem in remembrance of her. Sure, it's
called bow tie, And people ask me like, why do
I wear bow ties? And so this this tells a
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little bit of the recent story. She tied bows around hearts,
seemingly nodding kindness intertwined by her love. I was reminded
of the first bow tie we shared. She handed it
to me with care. Unbeknownst to Hope, unbeknownst to her,
there was a legacy there, a moment in time with grandfather,
her great grandfather, Life lessons and nodding a bow, never
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be afraid to try something new, the discovery of learning
how it's done, self, forgiveness for messing up, experiencing the
joy of finishing. All of that was in the bow
tie she gently placed in my hands. And I realized then,
though young, she was living with fearless vulnerability as a thinker, creator, connector,
weaving her life carefully, stitch by stitch, never carelessly. She
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was meticulous. She understood that life is a process, part
of the journey is the end. She wrote, Part of
the journey is the end. I wonder which end she
was meaning, a doorway to a new beginning. She was
like a good bow tie, an elegant finished knot centered
and skillfully placed in its wings, waiting to make an
appearance in the next adventure.
Speaker 2 (27:36):
And let me make a comments on that cold I
mean for you to choose to give one of your
poems about Caitlin, who your niece, who died a year
and a half or so ago, on Thanksgiving. It makes
me thinks that on Thanksgiving extends for you at least
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not only too well. The good stuff clearly and being
gone is something but nobody wants. But it doesn't necessarily
put a hole in the boat of the gratitude you
have for her being.
Speaker 1 (28:08):
Around our existence. Absolutely, absolutely.
Speaker 3 (28:14):
A little. So why don't we really quickly say tell
everyone what each of us are grateful for.
Speaker 2 (28:21):
Briefly, I'm grateful for every day I have, especially days
I don't have to take a shower. I'm also grateful
for I'm also grateful for the Democrats have a good
week last week. I want politics as part of my gratitude.
Speaker 1 (28:42):
I'm grateful every day when I get up and I
have breath, because with breath you have the opportunity to
change and grow with any opportunity that may present itself
towards you.
Speaker 3 (28:51):
I'm grateful for the people in my life, Poet and Peter.
My life is better because you're in it, and I'm
glad you're in it. And but I'm grateful, and I
have something come up that I'm being honored for it.
I've been trying to put a speech together, and the
organization does such great things. But to me and Tina
and I, the connections we've made with this organization have
made our life so much better, so much of a
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bigger family we have. So to me, I'm grateful for
the people in my life that make it better, and
even the people that don't make it better, because that's
part of life. You've got to deal with that to
your point, you know, the ones that give you a
break and didn't give you a break. Maybe you like
one better than the other, but you don't have any choice,
and you've got to be able to deal with that.
And what's the organization that's a value flight? Oh?
Speaker 2 (29:36):
Nice, nice, we'll gree there's a lot of gratitude gratitude
when you die who gave you a fair shake? Get
your list ready because in America's Thanksgiving, well is appropriately really.
Speaker 3 (29:49):
Pray Peter that when we get to that point, we've
forgotten about all the ones that didn't give us the
fair shake. We're looking at getting through those gates, and
then that's all going to be behind us. I hope,
but thet it go to leave it, maybe you might
want to have that listen in your pocket.
Speaker 1 (30:03):
Just amen, je Uncle Mike, and thanks listeners, Thank you
to our listeners, and happy Thanksgiving
The views and opinions expressed in the following programmer. Those
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Speaker 2 (00:11):
Good morning, you'll find out Pete the poet Gold.
Speaker 1 (00:13):
I'm Peter and I'm the poet Gold.
Speaker 2 (00:15):
And we're on the air together along with Uncle Mike
Hanson talking about Thanksgiving. But before we get to the
whole team talking about Thanksgiving, let's go right to the
poet goal for her weekly poem prayer incantation goal. Please
let it roll.
Speaker 1 (00:29):
Well, I'm going to do actually an excerpt out of
my book be the poem living Beyond Our Fears. One
of the stories I have in here is called Grateful Spirit.
And let me do this.
Speaker 2 (00:40):
So this is not a poem, this is prose, right,
oh yeah, regular writing.
Speaker 1 (00:46):
Okay, this is just an excerpt do an evolutionary process.
We've been given such a beautiful gift Earth. We did
not have our hands in its creation, but we do
have our hands and its sustainability, as we have our
hands in the human connection. But our fears make us
behave in a dominant fashion, claiming lands, people, and destroying
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all forms of life humans, plants, and animals. They hinder
what I believe is the next step in human evolution,
spiritual growth. We have the potential to become higher on
the spiritual evolutionary level, understanding the interconnectedness of our ecosystem
of life and humankind, and gratitude is deeply embedded in
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that journey.
Speaker 2 (01:31):
Amen, tell that, and I might make a local note
to that. There was a theologian Catholic theologian or French
Theologiano day shutdown, and he was very progressive, a Catholic priest.
He was sort of suppressed by the dominant church for
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a while for a long time, but he I had
a concept of what he called a new sphere uh
and the word news is from Greek word meaning spiritual mind,
and but he spelled the n O O s newsphere
and his thought he was a evolutionary biologist. But his
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theory was we're going to evolve into something higher on
the spiritual level of what you're talking about now. And
that's interesting, but what's even more important locally, he's buried
at the Culinari Institute of America, which used to be
the Jesuit seminary for the area. So I mean this
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world famous theologian shade is buried th h okay and parenthetically, well,
when I was growing up, you know, I've been Irish
Catholic Queen's which was a very I always say it's
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like being brought up by the Catholics Taliban. In my neighborhood,
it was. It was really rough and my father was.
Speaker 3 (03:11):
Back in the day you would get your knuckle slut
for that.
Speaker 2 (03:13):
Oh yeah, man, the knuckles please is But my father
was a very thoughtful guy, was a police captain in
New York and he was more what we would call
today open all liberal than the other neighbors. But I
remember in nineteen sixty two or three Life magazine Rain
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something a thing on Tayar front cover picture, and my
father cut out one of the injury of portrait pictures
of Taart and hung it in my little in my
house and I said, who's that? And he said, if
I have any chance to get into heaven, that's my chance,
you know, tear you know, like he was, And it
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sucked with me enough. I'm twelve, So uh, I'm mentioning
it today. And let me say I'm mentioning it today
in the spirit of thanks for the for the poem
for my father, for Tea, and for our audience who
was listening today. Thank you for letting me get through
that story.
Speaker 1 (04:17):
No, that's that's that's fine.
Speaker 3 (04:19):
Interesting concept you brought up in that little bit of
prose that you read people that we were not involved
in the creation, but we.
Speaker 1 (04:26):
Are involved in the sustainability.
Speaker 3 (04:29):
And that's something people don't think about. Right, some of
the people you talk to, you think were there when
it was created. The way they talked, I had a
hand in it, you know, Yeah, that's not true.
Speaker 2 (04:38):
We didn't, right, right, don't care if it's there when
they either, that's more common.
Speaker 1 (04:46):
That's so true. Yeah, you know when I was when
I was writing The Grateful Spirit, I really that poem. Yes,
it's called the gross Grateful Spirit. Yes, you know, it's
just the interconnectedness between clean everything around us is what
I wanted to convey. That we're not we're not apart from,
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but we're a part of.
Speaker 2 (05:10):
Yea.
Speaker 3 (05:10):
I wish the rest of the world would think that way.
It would change a lot of things. I think really
would that that that mentality, that culture would would something
that we'd all like to be part of. But there's
a lot of parts of the world are part of
it right now?
Speaker 1 (05:25):
Yeah, well, well maybe maybe they'll go out and get
the book. Getting the book and and if they get
the book off of my website, which is Poetgold dot com. Uh,
part of the proceeds I donate to a local nonprofit
here in Poughkeepsie called Real Skills Network. And so so,
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I even though that the book is available on Amazon
and Barnes and Nobles, I'm directing people to the poet
Gold site. So this way it can go directly to
to a nonprofit.
Speaker 2 (05:57):
Nice. Another exercise and Thanksgiving, yeah, absolutely, yeah. And you
know when we uh, with Thanksgiving coming up, Thanksgiving is
you know, both a holiday and a spiritual condition. Uh
and uh, you know, we try to bring the two
together a little bit around Thanksgiving on the holiday, but
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having us reflect on, you know, why we are grateful,
what we're grateful for.
Speaker 3 (06:27):
Well, Thanksgiving, I think is a fascinating holiday when you
think about it. They can't monetize it really like they
do with some of the other holidays. You don't here,
you know, the car dealers aren't having a Thanksgiving car sale.
It's not happening right right.
Speaker 1 (06:40):
It falls into a holiday sale type thing.
Speaker 3 (06:43):
Yeah, and it actually is a four day weekend usually,
so you would think that they would try to capitalize,
but somehow they haven't figured that out yet. I hope
they don't. It's nice if they don't.
Speaker 1 (06:52):
Well, I think they sort of do in a sense
of with Black Friday and Cyber Monday. That happens immediately.
Like everyone knows that day after Thanksgiving is the day
that you're going to go shopping, you know, so I
think they sort of. But you're right, they haven't isolated
that one day, you know.
Speaker 2 (07:10):
I mean, even the way you put it, the day
after Thanksgiving, it goes on Christmas kicked.
Speaker 1 (07:15):
That's right, right, right.
Speaker 3 (07:17):
But Thanksgiving is one of those holidays that I think
is very different to a lot of different people. A
lot of families celebrate in a different way, you know.
You know, the latest funny thing is, you know the
best way to cut down on your Christmas gift buying
is talk about politics at the Thanksgiving day.
Speaker 2 (07:35):
That's true.
Speaker 3 (07:36):
Get I'm angry at the table.
Speaker 1 (07:38):
Speak to them till January.
Speaker 2 (07:39):
Right, We'll get some of the politics before the end
of this show, because is a lot to be grateful
if we're in with the American constitution. Sure, and but
it occurred to me not for a while that you know,
if you take on traditional Catholic theology, which we brushed
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by earlier, and you took up at the last judgment,
you know you die. You get judges, not the issan,
but you get the individual judgment. My sensor is God
to answer you to questions. I can see you both
get answered with the question we can cheat on you, Yeah,
But I answer questions of who have you given a
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fair shake to? And who has given you a fair shake?
And the second question is the more important one. In
other words, the people you might have treated well, okay,
that's important, a good barama of how your life when
or what your values are. But my sense is for
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you to know who gave you a fair shake is
more important because it's a measurement of gratitude. In other words,
if you if your answer nobody ever gave me a
fair shake, it might be factually true, which is own tragedy.
But my sense is if you think nobody gave you
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a fair shake, you haven't been open enough the grace
of other people that you're ungrateful, so that who gave
you a fair shake is a real good question. Your
immortal soul depends on it.
Speaker 3 (09:22):
Well, that's interesting that I haven't you have to think
about that. I mean, and be honest with you, I think, sadly,
the way our culture has created, and myself included, is
I think you remember the ones that didn't give you
the fair shake a lot more. I think no, honestly,
I think it sticks in your head. And maybe that's
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just the culture we've created. But you know, I've got
a lot of people that you know, that I love dearly,
that have done so much for me. I can say
there's a lot of people that have given me a
fair I believe there's a lot of given me. Sure, yes, yes,
But there are the ones that haven't that still sticking.
I don't get them. You know, you can forgive, but
you don't forget, right, all right, But I would let
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the first question you ask, how many people have you?
I would hope this. I would want to say that
I give everybody a fear. I'd like to believe that
you give everybody a fair shake or a fair chance.
And I really try to give everybody. I mean, you
know there's a limit. Obviously you try to, you know,
you try to. You know, my better half. Tina. I
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kid with people all the time. She she tries to
see the good in everybody, and I mean, I mean
Hitler to walk through that door. She tried to figure
out something good about her and she really does try.
And we you know, we have every now and then
she gets angry with me because I'm like, yeah, you know,
somebody will do something over the years and I'm like, yeah,
well I'm done that. I've given them, you know, kind
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of the three strikes and you're out rule and they're
at three strikes, so I'm not going to do anything
to them or mean to them. I'm not gonna have
They're not going to be part of my life because
I don't need that.
Speaker 1 (10:57):
Right Right is the time we asked me the question
I'm a signalant? Is that time if you're just tuning in,
you listen to finding out what Pete and the poet Gold.
Speaker 2 (11:05):
I'm Peter, I'm uncle and I'm.
Speaker 1 (11:08):
The poet Gold and we're here having a conversation about Thanksgiving,
uh being, being grateful and gratitude and Peter asked an
interesting question.
Speaker 2 (11:16):
But Gold hooks and when I noticed a sign for her,
it's a show, and she gave me a look that
was both quizzical like what's going on and I'll show
a little critically.
Speaker 1 (11:32):
So I wasn't even sure if the hand was okay.
We were switching from Uncle Mike to go, okay, you
answer this question or you know so, but.
Speaker 2 (11:41):
Talk about gratitude. The time goes very very quick.
Speaker 1 (11:44):
Yeah, absolutely, absolutely, It's an easy conversation. I think part
of that question is sort of the question I asked
people of who he wished to be in the world,
you know, like every day you wake up and who
do you wish to be in the world, because it
sort of places you on the path of the question
that you have had asked about who has been gracious
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to you, so to speak, having that sort of awareness
consciously and intentionally, having having the awareness of who has
sort of treated you well in your life and who
have you in turn treat it well? And so what
type of person do you wish? Do you want to
be the person that brings harm in your day? Just today,
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not let's not talk about tomorrow, but just today, you know,
or do you do you want to be the person
that needs to receive? And how how do you receive?
Because if you if you can't receive. Then are you
really being genuine and are you living with a sense
of vulnerability to be open to receive who you don't receive,
or you're protecting something else.
Speaker 3 (12:47):
That first question, too, Peter, is interesting. I was so
blessed the way I was brought up that I can
remember my father saying so many times it's not not
what can you take with you when you go? When
did you leave behind? That's what you've got to be
conscious of. That's what you should be devoting your time to.
And I know some of the conversations you and I
have had about your you're you know, you have a
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very interesting philosophy on wealth that there's people just should
be just a limit as to how wealthy you can get,
and then there should be a cutoff. Yes, but along
nose lines you have to be exactly what you're saying,
almost And when you said that before, I all of
a sudden kind of understood more about what your philosophy
was with wealth is you can't concentrate on and you know,
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how much can I get? And what can I take
with me? You've got to concentrate on what you're leaving behind, right,
because that's what you're going to be judged when you
get up to wherever the pearly gates, wherever we end
up going, You're going to be judged on that.
Speaker 1 (13:42):
And it's how we look at wealth, you know.
Speaker 2 (13:44):
And I want to say, if you're not willing to
leave the wealth, the rest of us should take it
different the less polite form of what I think, but
a way of going into that issue, which is about
wealth and political life and social policy even coming in
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today on gold, this old Gold. The story about my
high school based at High School in Queens. It was
built in nineteen thirty, from thirty four to thirty six,
and it, like a lot of other high schools in
New York City, were built in that time, and every
one of them had a pool, okay, and I wound
up being excelling as swimming over the years. In high school,
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I was one of the two or three best fimens
in New York. In college, I was the best fimer
in New York. It was I'm not bragging. She went
about fifty years ago. The point is there was a
public policy decision made, Okay, let's include pools. And it's
the height of the depression. You might say, we don't
have the money. We always have the money for the kid.
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And my life is vastly different because I was able
to excel at swimming because the based at high school pool.
And in terms of how politics now is a great
emphasis on how much money can we save, even if
it's at the expense of children or poor people, you know,
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and public policy counts. And the people who made that decision,
I don't know any of them personally, but I feel
they looked out for me. Absolutely grateful. I'm grateful to
the person in the nineteen early thirties saying no, now,
let's put a pool into the high school.
Speaker 1 (15:30):
And what I pointed out to Peter in that on
a local level, you know, just my personal disappointment is
how the Why was shut down for whatever reasons, you know,
poorly managed, you know, in the city of Poughkeepsie or whatever.
But that's been at least fifteen seventeen years something like that.
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I mean, I used to take Caitlin, my younger cousin
who passed away. Actually this is our anniversary every day,
but but she used to go to that Why. You know,
they had swimming classes and you know, and then the
Why was gone, and you know, and I know there's
been some sort of effort, but but I don't really
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feel there's been a strong enough effort to put that
back into the city and the youth. The youth needed.
There are great organizations, all of us do really great work,
but there needs to be that central space for youth
in a city like Poughkeepsie to go to. And the
fact that that's been neglected just it's extremely disappointing and
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and and it bothers me.
Speaker 2 (16:36):
Yeah, and it affects every single kid, right. Educational policy
makes it different every kid in America. You get rid
of the education Department federally, a lot of kids are
going to lose out locally.
Speaker 3 (16:48):
Right, Well, it's interesting talking about Thanksgiving is what we're
talking about. So you know, you're you're pointing out how
thankful you were that you grew up in an arrow
where that was the way the mindset was that they were.
They didn't work, they were the beam counters. Weren't saying
we can't do that. There's no we're gonna do it,
and we're going to figure out how we're going to
do it.
Speaker 2 (17:05):
Right.
Speaker 3 (17:05):
Well, that doesn't happen today today. I really truly believe
everything is driven by money, by numbers, by by finances.
Everything is driven that way and there's no moral issues involved.
It's it's it's on a piece of paper. We can't
afford it, we're not doing it. Back then they figured
out a way to get around that. Well, maybe we
can't afford it, but we are doing it, and we
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did it so.
Speaker 1 (17:27):
And being able to have the foresight and the emotion
intelligence enough to understand what that pool is going to
do for the future, you know, not like it may
seem like, oh, you got a bunch of kids swimming around. No,
you have a child whose life potentially can be transformed
because you're giving them access to that.
Speaker 3 (17:45):
And it's interesting. My high school Morrow Woodbury, the high
school the one I have now probably has a spot.
I mean the one that in there now is they go.
But the one I had was if you ever go
to Woodbury Common, so one up on the hill that's
where I went to high school. It was fairly new.
When I went to high school. There was a full
sized Olympic pool in there and they had a very
strong swimming program. But the advantage to that was there
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was two or three nights a week where it was
open to the public. They had and and you know,
so in the middle of the winter when it was
snowing out and you could go to the high school
and jump in the pool and spend a couple hours
in the warm water enjoying yourself. So it was not
only the students that benefit from that, it was the
community to benefit.
Speaker 2 (18:25):
And I mentioned so well too. It's a public based
at high school where I was in grammar school, Lady
Most Blessed sacrament In Baside, we had a swimming team
and there was a great swimming league, a Catholic swimming
league in Queens because every Catholic school was around a
public school that had a pool, so that you had
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this whole league. It was a Catholic league, but it
was without mentioning, publicly supported by the community pools in
the high schools. Great stuff and nail Mike without trying
to be uh mean about it. Well, when you talk
about we have being counters now and you know we're
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always every dollar gets accounted for then, but what we're
saving the forts he gives tax backs to the richest
people who have lived in the world. I mean, so
it's really crazy.
Speaker 3 (19:19):
The system is definitely broken. Yes, it is on a
lot of levels.
Speaker 2 (19:22):
Yes, the simplest level, when you want to take money
away from the poor people, you give to the rich
people's that's the only level.
Speaker 3 (19:31):
Of the count. But there's so many different avenues for that.
I agree with what you're saying about taking, but there's
so many other places that it's being taken from that
affect so many people's lives, and yet it still goes on.
Speaker 1 (19:43):
It doesn't stop, right, it doesn't stop. If you're just
tuning in, you're listening to finding out with Pete the
poet Gold, I'm Peter, I'm Uncle Mike, and I'm the
poet Goal. Then we're talking about having the grateful spirit.
Speaker 2 (19:54):
Yeah, And what I want to say is gratitude gon
comes at many levels. Usually we think of at a
completely personal level. And what I want to say is
the personal level accounts already mentioned. You know how grateful
i am to my own upbringing in my family, and
I'm grateful to the public policies that allowed swimming to
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flourishing in Bay Size Queen's And I'm looking forward to
participating in public policy that makes more opportunity for more
young people. And if that comes at the expense. Another
controversial thing Michael, if it comes at the expense of
every seventy five year old, which includes me, the seventy
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five year olds gets their first aspirant after every kid
in America is really taking care of you know. So
I have an anti old person bias, and I want
to make it clear the kids get priority.
Speaker 3 (20:50):
Well, I think everyone who has children, you do. Most
of the people that I know, and myself included. You're
a kid, it do come first.
Speaker 2 (21:02):
You know.
Speaker 3 (21:02):
When you when you're young and you have a child,
first of all, it's a completely new territory. You've spent
your whole life really worrying about yourself for lack of
a better word, you know, and all of a sudden,
now you've brought this little life into the world that
is completely dependent on you. And if you don't put
them first, it's it's not going to turn out well.
And and sadly, there's a lot that don't. There's a
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lot of a lot of people have children that don't
don't do that, some but most do. Mostly, you know,
I can tell you. I know my parents went without
a lot for us, and I've gone out without a
lot for my son, and you have to. But it's
it's almost Peter like, it's a it's part of I
think it's part of your it's nature. Maybe I don't know,
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because it's not something you're prepared for, and you you're not.
I mean, I guess you you base how you take
care of your children and how your parents took care
of you.
Speaker 1 (21:54):
Right if they if they had the tools, you know,
to be able to to be able to.
Speaker 3 (21:58):
Do that, well, not only the tools, so, but I
know how much my mother and father and by the
time I came along, I was the fifth of five children,
and my oldest brother is fourteen years older. So by
the time I got there, they had a lot of
experience when right right, that's my father was doing a
lot better. And I get accused of being spoiled all
the time by my chilthers and sisters because they had
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a better situation. I didn't choose to be born then.
I was just I'm kind of happy I was. I
probably had it easier than they did. But I think
it's it's an innate part of your nature. I think
that it has to be. I mean, you learn obviously.
What I'm trying to say is you learn a lot
as you grow and you've got to have that core
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that you're talking about where you know when you say
it all the time. Now, if it comes down to
me or the kids, the kids go first, and that's
part of your nature.
Speaker 2 (22:47):
Yeah, And I want to say that that sound only
my personal nasu is my political nature, you know. And
in terms of having the tools, I mean very often
we think of poverty as depriving people of parenting tools,
and it does, but wealth and greed do too. So
if you're making a ton of money, it's much more
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exciting to go be a big shot at the business
end of that night than to be home with your
family cooking more hamburgers.
Speaker 1 (23:17):
And money doesn't necessarily give you the tools of rage children.
I think it hurts them right right, absolutely.
Speaker 3 (23:24):
Seen children that have suffered from having parents.
Speaker 2 (23:27):
Yeah, because I mean the parents, I'm trying to be sympathetic,
they get greedy. In other words, money is like booze.
If you drink enough of it, you get drunk. And
if you're drunk, you're not good at.
Speaker 3 (23:39):
Being a parent, and you do get addicted to it.
Speaker 2 (23:44):
Yes, yeah, money is that's why it's a charitable thing.
When I you know the short form of it, say
you know, being a billionaire should be illegal because it's
not only not good for society. We have a lot
of things we need to do more pool the bill,
but it's also not good for you. Being a billionaires
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gives you such a warped sense of your own self worth.
You know.
Speaker 3 (24:08):
We like to try it for a week.
Speaker 1 (24:12):
I like to spend it on all the things I
want to spend it on, you know, buil building, UH building,
youth centers and you know, and and giving the nonprofits
and you know, and and programs for medicine to heal
that so well, I know, I know I'm doing that.
I know I do that.
Speaker 3 (24:29):
But here's an interesting question.
Speaker 1 (24:31):
But the little extra cash would allow me to really
do it on a whole other level.
Speaker 3 (24:36):
An interesting question. So I just noticed that the mega
drawing is nine hundred million dollars.
Speaker 1 (24:43):
Oh was it?
Speaker 3 (24:43):
Maybe I'll go put my my question. People ask, you
know all the time, Hey, if you hit something, would
you do? I say, I'd give most of the it
a work. You don't need nine hundred million though, right right?
I mean I would have a comfortable life. I make
sure absolutely was left over. I would give it away.
I would I've got lever charities that would benefit tremendously
because I would give it to them.
Speaker 2 (25:03):
And you've heard me say this before. You also have
a corollary in terms of political power. You know, what
do they bothering? Why don't they you go sit in
the beach someplace. And my sense is you have excess rationality.
The thing is you, I suspect, never had nine hundred
million dollars. And the thing is when you get it,
(25:26):
and it's going to my point, you get cheap. You
don't get more lavish, a middle class attitude say, okay,
it makes sense if I have way more than I
need for a couple of generations and give the rest away.
When you get that money, the evidence is we have
no evidence of somebody really giving it all away.
Speaker 3 (25:46):
Or even I've already said I've already got it figured
out where it's going. Peter.
Speaker 2 (25:51):
I hope you don't get drunk on the greed. I
know for a fact I would really Yeah, I would
give away a lot of money, but we would the
you have to put up my attitude of well I'll
give it to you. I'm not going to you know,
it would be terrible for me to.
Speaker 1 (26:06):
Be well and in a spirit of and how much
time do we have in a spirit of? Then? Yeah, yeah,
Since it's Caitlin's birthday today, November eleventh, I just wanted
to read a poem in remembrance of her. Sure, it's
called bow tie, And people ask me like, why do
I wear bow ties? And so this this tells a
(26:26):
little bit of the recent story. She tied bows around hearts,
seemingly nodding kindness intertwined by her love. I was reminded
of the first bow tie we shared. She handed it
to me with care. Unbeknownst to Hope, unbeknownst to her,
there was a legacy there, a moment in time with grandfather,
her great grandfather, Life lessons and nodding a bow, never
(26:50):
be afraid to try something new, the discovery of learning
how it's done, self, forgiveness for messing up, experiencing the
joy of finishing. All of that was in the bow
tie she gently placed in my hands. And I realized then,
though young, she was living with fearless vulnerability as a thinker, creator, connector,
weaving her life carefully, stitch by stitch, never carelessly. She
(27:14):
was meticulous. She understood that life is a process, part
of the journey is the end. She wrote, Part of
the journey is the end. I wonder which end she
was meaning, a doorway to a new beginning. She was
like a good bow tie, an elegant finished knot centered
and skillfully placed in its wings, waiting to make an
appearance in the next adventure.
Speaker 2 (27:36):
And let me make a comments on that cold I
mean for you to choose to give one of your
poems about Caitlin, who your niece, who died a year
and a half or so ago, on Thanksgiving. It makes
me thinks that on Thanksgiving extends for you at least
(27:57):
not only too well. The good stuff clearly and being
gone is something but nobody wants. But it doesn't necessarily
put a hole in the boat of the gratitude you
have for her being.
Speaker 1 (28:08):
Around our existence. Absolutely, absolutely.
Speaker 3 (28:14):
A little. So why don't we really quickly say tell
everyone what each of us are grateful for.
Speaker 2 (28:21):
Briefly, I'm grateful for every day I have, especially days
I don't have to take a shower. I'm also grateful
for I'm also grateful for the Democrats have a good
week last week. I want politics as part of my gratitude.
Speaker 1 (28:42):
I'm grateful every day when I get up and I
have breath, because with breath you have the opportunity to
change and grow with any opportunity that may present itself
towards you.
Speaker 3 (28:51):
I'm grateful for the people in my life, Poet and Peter.
My life is better because you're in it, and I'm
glad you're in it. And but I'm grateful, and I
have something come up that I'm being honored for it.
I've been trying to put a speech together, and the
organization does such great things. But to me and Tina
and I, the connections we've made with this organization have
made our life so much better, so much of a
(29:14):
bigger family we have. So to me, I'm grateful for
the people in my life that make it better, and
even the people that don't make it better, because that's
part of life. You've got to deal with that to
your point, you know, the ones that give you a
break and didn't give you a break. Maybe you like
one better than the other, but you don't have any choice,
and you've got to be able to deal with that.
And what's the organization that's a value flight? Oh?
Speaker 2 (29:36):
Nice, nice, we'll gree there's a lot of gratitude gratitude
when you die who gave you a fair shake? Get
your list ready because in America's Thanksgiving, well is appropriately really.
Speaker 3 (29:49):
Pray Peter that when we get to that point, we've
forgotten about all the ones that didn't give us the
fair shake. We're looking at getting through those gates, and
then that's all going to be behind us. I hope,
but thet it go to leave it, maybe you might
want to have that listen in your pocket.
Speaker 1 (30:03):
Just amen, je Uncle Mike, and thanks listeners, Thank you
to our listeners, and happy Thanksgiving
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