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Speaker 1 (00:01):
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Speaker 2 (00:11):
A good morning, you'll find out with Pete and the
Poe Cold, I'm Peter.
Speaker 3 (00:14):
Lennard and I'm the poet Gold.
Speaker 2 (00:15):
And we're on the air. This morning's twa Brown, the
girl boss of our county. And before we get twer,
we're going to go right to the poet Gold for
her weekly poem prayer incantation. Gold, let it roll.
Speaker 1 (00:27):
So I'm gonna give a short verse from be the
poem Outside from my book, Be the poem living beyond
our fears. Imagine sunsets with orange hues across the sky,
when the stars as sind, the blanket the night, when
things go dark. Be the light in your life, Be
the poem.
Speaker 2 (00:45):
Wait a poem, And so, Harry, you have many poems
in your life and they're all you. Well, give us
a sense of that MONARCHA girl boss? What does it
mean to be a girl boy.
Speaker 4 (01:00):
It's exactly what Gold said, being the light.
Speaker 5 (01:03):
Being a girl boss is not about what title you wear,
or your profession or where you work. Being a girl
boss is what's in you and the characteristics that embody
you and how you display those characteristics to the world.
Speaker 2 (01:22):
Okay, so it has a much more spiritual explanation than title.
I mean, the title seems crass and out in the world,
and yet what you're describing, as you explain it is
a spirituality that senses you and puts you in relation
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to the world. Right.
Speaker 4 (01:46):
Think about the stay at home mom who handles the.
Speaker 5 (01:49):
Home, does pick up and drop offs, cleans the house,
does all the extra Kurk activities with the kids. She
doesn't necessarily have a quote unquote job or goes to work,
but she's like being a girl boss from the minute
that she wakes up to the second that she gets
a breath, and sometimes she probably doesn't even get a breath.
But that's what I think a girl boss is, you know,
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And that can be also be the college student who
is extremely driven, on top of their game, working doing internships,
striving to do what they have to do for themselves.
So it's not a one size fits all when it
comes to being a girl boss.
Speaker 1 (02:26):
And that's what I call being a poem because it's
stepping into the essence of who you are. Evolving or
who you are and being accountable for that, stepping into
that role and moving in that direction, you know, fully
embracing it.
Speaker 2 (02:40):
That's a real nice connection between a poet. Gold's latest
book will be the.
Speaker 3 (02:46):
Poem Living Beyond Our Fears.
Speaker 5 (02:48):
Oh oh well, I think it's important that we mentioned
the Living Beyond Our Fears because I'm actually having an
upcoming event and I think that everything that is this
book is about needs to be at the event because
it's just a epitome of what the purpose of this
event is about.
Speaker 4 (03:05):
So I hope the poet Gold will be there with.
Speaker 5 (03:09):
Her books and what's the event. The event is called
Rooted and Rested. It's a woman's wellness experience. It's happening
in Poughkeepsie on March eighth, which is International Women's Day.
So we are going to have a half day experience.
It's going to be from eleven am to two pm
and we are going to have about fifty women attend
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the event. We're going to have different activities including yoga,
We're going to have a breathwork session, We're going to
have a sound bath session, and then we're going to
have different curated vendors that are in the wellness space
or women owned businesses. And I think that the poet gold,
I mean, even in the snippet that you just read,
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being the Light January has seemed so heavy for so
many different people, and like, if you have the mind
mindset of just being the light in the dark, you're
able to move forward and just push forward a little
bit more and overcome things. So I think we are
super aligned and I hope that you'll be able to
join us.
Speaker 3 (04:13):
Let's it, we'll talk about it.
Speaker 2 (04:19):
I never heard of a sound bath. You mentioned the
sound bath.
Speaker 4 (04:22):
Yeah, So.
Speaker 5 (04:25):
I met this woman and I actually met her at
a coffee meetup because I am the new host for
the Poughkeepsie coffee meetups for the Hudson Valley Women in Business.
So we had a coffee meetup last month and I
met a woman. She does sound baths. So it's uh,
using sound and energy to like radiate the body. So
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it's going to be like maybe like twenty minutes after
the yoga session, but it's something that.
Speaker 4 (04:55):
Helps you get in tune with yourself.
Speaker 5 (04:57):
And I think that as I'm meant all the different
hats that women wear, I don't think that we really
have the time to pour into ourselves and reset.
Speaker 4 (05:07):
So I'm really excited for all that's going to be happening.
Speaker 3 (05:10):
And the sound bath.
Speaker 1 (05:11):
It's very interesting because they use tones, right, you know
with with with the sound bath. I don't know if
Angela Henry's husband, Brian Henry, I know him, yes, yes,
you know, he passed away, but but he really got
into the sound baths and and really the the tonations
of it's a very meditative practice.
Speaker 2 (05:32):
So it's it's not usually the way we usually thanks
of it, but it's music homost like in Asian spirituality.
You have the tones and the.
Speaker 3 (05:45):
Gongs and right right, right right.
Speaker 2 (05:47):
Yeah. Sound path sounds great.
Speaker 4 (05:50):
We're also going to have.
Speaker 2 (05:52):
When you mentioned it, you mentioned it as if it's
a table.
Speaker 5 (05:56):
No, no, no, it's a group activity that we're all
going to do together, similar to like how a setting
where we're with yoga mats. We're also going to have
someone who is going to be doing reflexology, which I'm
very excited about all of these activities. As you mentioned
the sound bath, my mother she passed away two years ago,
but when she was going through chemo and all her treatments,
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the Office of the Aging shout out to them, they're amazing.
They used to have someone come and do reiki, and
reiki is like I don't know the exact terms, but
like transferring energy and you lay down on like a
yoga bed a table and they do this thing where
they don't touch you but like it the energy and
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then afterwards they would do a sound bath and it
was like the best thing ever, like in terms of
like releasing toxins and all the negativity and welcoming new energy.
It was really transformative, especially for my mom at that stage.
So going back to being the light, like that woman
who came to do that practice with my mom, she
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was the light during a very very dark time. So
that's why this event is so meaningful to me. And
it's very specific to women who might be carrying a
heavy load all the time. It's to help recharge and
reset and for us to learn how to prioritize ourselves.
Speaker 3 (07:17):
And what's the date again?
Speaker 5 (07:18):
March eighth at the Academy and Poughkeepsie from eleven am
to two pm.
Speaker 2 (07:23):
The Academy is at building right along the arterial at
Academy Street. Yes, now you mentioned your mother, I know
she died two years ago. I remember the last time
you were on the show, that was still very something
that weighed heavily on your mind or on your soul,
And maybe you could give a sense of how these
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new practices that you have gone to, how your mother's
death is fight into that.
Speaker 5 (07:51):
So for the past eleven years, I've been really focused
on serving the community and helping people through my nonprofit.
And I found that I was pouring so much into
others that I left nothing for me. So I'm running
a nonprofit full time, but I'm also working a job
full time. I'm like getting another degree or certificate or something,
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and I left nothing to myself. In twenty twenty two,
when I was getting my first master's degree, I said
to myself, I'm going to give the nonprofit thing a
break and I'm going to focus on my family. That's
when my mom got really sick. My mom was sick
for six years. I finished my master's, I took my
mom on vacation. She spent all my money, Like I
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took her to the Riz, Carlton and Miami, and like,
she literally spent all my money like I thought I
was going to, you know, like when the hotel does
a holding, you think you're going to get money back,
like she spent like three thousand dollars because she's like
ordering a hundred dollars breakfast. But it was the time
of my life, you know, And like it was when
we got back a week later, that's when they said
she had break brain cancer and she only had ten
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more months. So through that time I was going crazy
and I had to quit my job.
Speaker 4 (09:03):
I didn't have to.
Speaker 5 (09:04):
I chose to quit my job to take care of
my mom because she needed twenty four hour care and
no one would help her, like no one.
Speaker 4 (09:09):
In my family.
Speaker 5 (09:10):
And with that being said, I learned that, like I
always I was always an entrepreneur, but I learned that
like a job means nothing, Like I just quit a
six figure job to take care of my mom, like
that that comes and goes, Like this time with my mom,
it's all that matters. And during my mom's sickness, I
had to make really hard decisions about stopping her care,
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about whether she's gonna be able to walk again, and
all of that like taught me how important it is
to take care of yourself. My mom she got cancer
because she smoked cigarettes. It started in her lungs and
like I was trying to change her diet and give
her like holistic things, but it was too late. Once
it goes see your brain, it's too late. It spreads
throughout your whole entire body. Like I literally was caring
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my mom in order.
Speaker 4 (09:58):
For her to move.
Speaker 5 (10:00):
I was literally feeding her like a baby. And to
see someone deteriorate in that sense, I was like, I
need to make a change in my life, Like, okay,
I don't eat red meat, but what about all the
other negative things, like there's no more smoking hookah, there's
no more drinking alcohol, And.
Speaker 4 (10:16):
You're laughing, but like, no, you can't.
Speaker 5 (10:19):
I've always been on this health journey, But you can't
be on a health journey and drink alcohol, like you cannot.
It doesn't work. It does not work. And I was
drinking way too much. So I was like, I'm just
gonna stop all of this. And after my mom passed away,
I started going to yoga and it was different for
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me this time. So when I tried yoga fifteen years ago,
my mind was racing because I was worried about doing
the next task to save the community. This time, I
actually had time to slow down, and with yoga, it
made me connect with myself in a way that I
did not want to. So I was trying to block
everything out that happened when my mom, but it really
gave me something to dial in on. And so that's
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where all of this wellness has come from.
Speaker 1 (11:07):
If you're just tuning in, you listen to Finding Out
with Pete and the poet Gold and we're here today Brown.
You know, it's funny that that I always say that
there's a there's a place where we can receive information
when we're ready. You know, it may be the same
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information that was presented to us a year ago, yesterday,
but if you're not in a place in your journey
to receive it, you won't receive it. It'll it'll it'll
appear to be brand new when it when you're ready
for it. You know, my father also passed from brain
cancer due to smoking, you know, and it's and it
is something to uh to live through. You know that
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that whole process with with a parent. So I definitely
you know, understand the journey that you went through it
particularly at at a at a young age. I was
a little older when it happened to my dad, but
but still young. You know, he's not He's not here
some twenty years, thirty years later. So you know, it's
it's a it's a hard it's a hard journey. Yeah,
it's a hard journey. But but but it's great that
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that you're able to recognize and have all this information
and still serve because even though you stepped away from
the nonprofit, you're still fulfilling that that sense of service
you know in your humanity and understanding that that part
of you is is a vessel for for good and
and how do we take trauma and turn it into
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something good as a form of service for others? And
and and I look forward to your event.
Speaker 2 (12:42):
And the part where you know you stop crinching and
start doing more yoga. I mean, that's not just something
you can describe, but that's creates an energy within you.
And I'm using the term again of spirituality that is
by definition transformative and so uh, your activities it's just
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evenge coming up on March eith with the sound baths
and it's uh, it's relatives is a way of you
spreading that. Uh. Spirituality is kind of what the evangelization
or getting the good news out there.
Speaker 3 (13:26):
And reflexology that's that's with the feet, the feet.
Speaker 5 (13:29):
With your feet, yeah, and if anything's wrong with your feet,
you're you're not in good shape.
Speaker 4 (13:33):
You're not like you're in some trouble.
Speaker 5 (13:35):
And like I know, like for me too, like I
don't know, like maybe like when I'm stressed or like
when certain things are going on, I'm like, why.
Speaker 4 (13:42):
Did my feet feel weird?
Speaker 5 (13:44):
So that's why I'm really excited about that aspect of it.
Speaker 1 (13:47):
It's nothing like having uh someone because all the nerve endings, Yeah, exactly,
So it's nothing like having someone massage your your feet,
you know, to release the tension, to release pain. And me,
you know, you'd be surprised how much relief you get
and even your hands, the feet, the feet is amazing.
Speaker 2 (14:05):
Well, Gold is an expert in body pain, right.
Speaker 3 (14:11):
I hate to say that having pains in every.
Speaker 2 (14:15):
Imaginable place with her various physical ailments, which you're profound
and the reason I say that, it's so hard to
pick it up from her disposition. You know, so even
when you talk about when Gold talks about her physical disabilities,
she talks about them in such an optimistic way, people
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don't really get the message. Right.
Speaker 1 (14:38):
Well, life, Life once again taking trauma, having it be
a form of service. Life goes life goes on, it continues,
and so it's not to make little of anyone's circumstances.
Speaker 3 (14:52):
But how do you become the poem? Still? You still
have breath?
Speaker 4 (14:56):
Right, you know?
Speaker 1 (14:57):
How do you how do you find that light within
your self amongst that darkness? You know you're you're still
here and and that's so let's work inwards to you know,
show some light out words.
Speaker 2 (15:10):
And I will also say, it's always struck me that
reflexology that works directly on your feet is uh. You know,
people usually talk about reflexology as if it has a
built in spiritual component, and it always echoes to me
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that reflectsology is working directly on your soul, the soul
of your foot, but the soul of Oh.
Speaker 3 (15:38):
Yes, yes, I like that, Peter, Yeah, I like that.
Speaker 6 (15:42):
Get going.
Speaker 4 (15:42):
I like that you're going.
Speaker 2 (15:50):
Whereas the soul is the soul? Uh? And one answer
that is in the soul of your feet. And uh,
the the word indicate, So the history of the word
what they call sometimes etymology or the word in the
cases somewhere along the line at a time before they
will reflexolog you students, as the studios, people recognize the
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soul of the foot is attached to the general soul.
Speaker 5 (16:24):
Something.
Speaker 2 (16:25):
And then you don't mind if I take an extra
moment to talk about my levitation skills, which don't exists
except for in my lying imagination.
Speaker 4 (16:37):
I was going to say, that's where we draw the line.
Speaker 1 (16:40):
So online, where can people learn more about it? Do
you have a website or you know what? How can
people connect?
Speaker 5 (16:47):
It's your co you know, girl boss brand dot com.
Tickets are available, okay, and if you buy a ticket
for you and your friend, you get a discount. So
get your bestie and make sure you purchase your tickets.
I think it's really important that we encourage other people
to tap into their inner selves. When my mom was
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literally dying, like I asked the hospital, like, how many weeks.
Speaker 4 (17:15):
Is she going to live?
Speaker 5 (17:16):
I think they said six weeks. She lived for seven.
But that weekend I asked hospice, when.
Speaker 4 (17:22):
Is she going to die? They're like, she's not going
to make it through the weekend.
Speaker 5 (17:25):
And during those times I thought that I couldn't handle
what was going on.
Speaker 4 (17:31):
When my mom.
Speaker 5 (17:31):
Passed away, I was completely sober, and when I started
doing yoga, I had to think back to that time,
like I literally saw my mom take her last breath,
and I didn't need alcohol to subdue me or to
get through that time. And I think that a lot
of times we feel like we can't get through something
because it's just so heavy, and events like this they
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just show that we all have commonalities, we are all humans,
we all bleed the same blood, and that it is
going to be okay. And like Gold said, life goes on.
Like my mom died two years ago, I feel like
she died yesterday. So much life has gone on since then.
But we have to use the skills that we have
within ourselves and learn new skills so that we can
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continue to live, because you don't want to be stuck
who you were five years later in the same position
that you were and now you know, and.
Speaker 1 (18:26):
You know, I've had the blessing to be with a
number of people on their transition, you know, of going
home the transition day and you're dying, yes, dying yes,
and it really is I've I've have a different perspective,
you know, on on death. Now it doesn't I don't
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find it frightening to be with someone to hold their
hand while they're there in that moment. You know, how
did you feel about being with you? Was this your
first profound yeah? Passing your life?
Speaker 3 (19:08):
Okay, yeah?
Speaker 4 (19:09):
So I mean my uncle he had lung cancer. I
was in college.
Speaker 5 (19:12):
This was back in twenty twelve, and for the summer
I had to take care of him by myself because
everyone else was at work. I was home from college.
I didn't know he was going to die. I didn't
know he had cancer at the time, but I took
care of him. But then when he died, I wasn't there.
I ended up going back to school. This was my
first experience, but I knew that I had to put
my emotions to the side and that my mom needed me.
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So I needed to show up as my best self
for her all the time. And I needed to make
her feel comfortable because she was scared. So I couldn't
show that I was scared. I'm a very anal person.
I'm type A like. I'm very like I need to
know what's going on because I need to know how
to navigate. Yeah, like, I need to make sure I
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have all the tools in my toolbox to do what
needs to be done. So when I realized that my
family and my father. They were just like in disbelief.
I'm like, okay, well, moving on, this needs to be
done right. So, like I had to make all these decisions,
and I had to make sure I was making the
right decisions.
Speaker 4 (20:11):
And when she was about.
Speaker 5 (20:14):
To pass away, I told her because she was still
smoking cigarettes, and I'm like, listen. She kept falling on
the floor because she had all the cancer in her brain,
and I was picking her up and I'm like, listen,
I'm very weak. They said that you're going to pass away,
and you keep smoking cigarettes, so I can tell that
you're ready to go. I told her that I will
always take care of my nephews. I will be fine.
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I will go back and get a job and I'll
get an apartment. And she did her job and now
it's time for her to rest. Everything's going to be okay.
I said that a couple of days before she passed away.
Then I invited everyone to come see her, and my
nephews stayed over for that night, and she waited until
her last friend came. Her friend lived five minutes from
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her house, and before her friend even got home, I
text her friend and said, my mom passed away, and
you know, I was just grateful and I was honored
that I have the capabilities in the strength to take
care of my mom because she took care of me
my whole life.
Speaker 4 (21:16):
And I was honored, you know.
Speaker 5 (21:18):
But now like, I'm not scared of anything, and if
there's any issues that could happen, I'm like, we could
figure it out, because life goes on.
Speaker 3 (21:30):
Right, you figure it out.
Speaker 1 (21:31):
Once again, if you're tuning in to finding out with
Pete in the poet gold and I'm the poet Golden.
We're here with Satara Brown of girl Boston. We're talking
about her upcoming event for Women's Month in March eighth,
Is that correct? Yes, at the Academy in Poughkeepsie, New York.
And what's the time, eleven am to two pm. Eleven
am to two pm. And if you want to be
a part of it, it's going to be enlightenment. It's
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going to be empowerment for women. And go to her website.
You website is Girlboss brand dot com.
Speaker 3 (21:59):
Get you tickets to be in the room.
Speaker 2 (22:01):
Yeah. You also mentioned, Sarah that you're encouraging people to
come with it one of their friends, at least one friend,
and there's a way in which when you do things
with a friend or in a group, it's if you
with one friend, it's three times better probably than doing
it just by yourself. So it's it's a bargain to
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bring a friend because your spiritual advantage is at least
three times more than if it was just one. Pay
for your friend.
Speaker 4 (22:37):
Give your friend a nice gift.
Speaker 2 (22:39):
She deserves it, and I suggest that you started off
by paying for your friend. And believe me, it's a
bargain in several ways. But spirituality doesn't happen one at
a time.
Speaker 4 (22:54):
It happens in community.
Speaker 6 (22:57):
In community absolutely, Okay, that's a very important fact because
I would say the real self, the real soul is pooral.
Speaker 2 (23:07):
I mean, we think about ourselves as one single interior,
spirital mind, and yet we experience ourselves the way we
actually experience the world is Pooral. We experience it together,
and the more closer way together, the more intensely we
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are ourselves.
Speaker 5 (23:31):
You know. I love that you mentioned that. And just
to go back to yoga for a second. When I
go to yoga, it's normally a lot of older women
in the room, like over fifty five, and being in community,
I don't know these ladies. But I tell people like, oh, yeah,
I'm going to yoga with my old ladies.
Speaker 4 (23:51):
We don't talk.
Speaker 5 (23:52):
I don't know their names or anything, but like for me,
it's empowering.
Speaker 4 (23:57):
It keeps me motivated.
Speaker 5 (23:59):
And for me, it's like if these women are prioritizing
their health at the age that they're in, they're getting
up in the cold, they're doing yoga. I don't have
an excuse, like I don't have there's no excuse. And
that's the part of being in community, right because if
I was just doing it on my own, I'll probably
be like, eh, I'm good. So being in community is
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very very important. It helps hold you care absolutely and
it pushes you farther.
Speaker 2 (24:26):
Right. Yeah, in my sense is I mean, even what
we call self care requires a courage. And I think
the appropriate perspective on courage, Courage is not something you
have in saw you as a person, as a single person.
Courage is a social relation. In other words, when you're
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doing things with other people, they inspire you. Inspiration and
courage I think related realities. And you know, we keep
talking about courages if some people have it inside them
and that other people don't. And in fact, I think that
people who are courageous, of people who are open to
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the inspiration of others. So how is that golled?
Speaker 5 (25:16):
You know, Peter, I'm just he's killing it Today's and Peter,
to your point with that, That's exactly why I'm opening
a wellness studio later this year in Poughkeepsie, so that
we can be in community with one another, so that
we can do yoga together, so that we could do
pilates together, we could have a grief workshop so that
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we can heal together, and so that we can just
bring a lot of different dynamics that we don't have
in the community or we're doing in silo a space
that we could do it together.
Speaker 2 (25:50):
How do you think your mother would feel about that?
I mean, the initial spiritual experience is it's a base
of the studio. It's coming up. It's based on your
relationship with your mother. So how do you think she
would receive that?
Speaker 5 (26:09):
I think that she would be. I think she's smiling down,
she's really happy. My mom has been a big part
in all of the businesses that I've had. She was
the director of programs for my nonprofit. Like she was
boots on the ground. She has helped me build everything.
She helped me build girl Boss, like she was selling
my merch, she was doing the inventory, she was behind
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the scenes at my brunches, like that was my right hand.
And I think that the fact that I'm doing something
one for myself and for others, but one doing something
for myself first, I think she would be really really
proud and that I'm spreading this positive energy.
Speaker 1 (26:45):
And you come into that, you know, it's a when
you sort of live in a place of service. You
come into a space where you understand, I need to
also take care of me. Yeah, I don't take care
of me. I can't take care of anyone else. And
that's what I call being unselfishly selfish.
Speaker 2 (27:07):
But it's you know, it's such a This show has
actually been a journey. I think from the hey man,
I'm girl Boss. And the other thing is tone, the
magical tone or sound bath.
Speaker 4 (27:30):
Bath, I'm very then I'm in my soft girl.
Speaker 3 (27:33):
Error right now.
Speaker 2 (27:34):
It never occurred to me, but you know, with our
me learning the term sound bath maybe the most effective
at least you know my experience. The most healing sound
bath I can imagine is laughter. I mean, laughter is
something you don't really you don't have control over it,
and it comes suddenly unexpectedly and it fills the moment completely.
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I mean, you can't be happier than laughing, and uh,
it's non rational.
Speaker 1 (28:06):
And the the show I did in New York City
at Saint Mark's, the first show, and the young woman
from Vassar who opened up I don't remember, and she
had this sort of big tub type silver pan in front.
Speaker 4 (28:21):
Of us and was playing, oh that was a sound bath.
Speaker 3 (28:24):
That was the sound Yeah, okay, I opened it up
with the sound bad.
Speaker 1 (28:26):
Yeah, yeah, you were there, were listen.
Speaker 5 (28:31):
This This event is for the ladies, but for the
next one, I will definitely keep you posted because I
think you need to have this experience.
Speaker 4 (28:37):
That we're having.
Speaker 2 (28:38):
Okay, count me in case.
Speaker 1 (28:41):
It's a Sunday Sunday, so it's a wonderful way to
spend your Sunday on March.
Speaker 4 (28:45):
And it's International Woman's Day on that day.
Speaker 2 (28:49):
And if you can't you get the sound bath, get
a comedian laugh to heels too. Absolutely, I would say
it left the heels first. Yeah, but it's certainly something
that we appreciate.
Speaker 3 (29:06):
And I think we've come to the end of our
show today. You know, you have to come back. We
always enjoy you coming.
Speaker 2 (29:12):
You know.
Speaker 5 (29:12):
I know, I'm like you guys need to see me
at least twice a year. If not, I'm not doing
my job.
Speaker 1 (29:16):
Yes, yes, so once again we're here with Satara Brown
girl Boss and she's talking. She talked about her event
today that's taking place March eighth, International Women's Day. Right, Yes,
and it's going to be at the Academy eleven am
and Poughkeepsie.
Speaker 4 (29:30):
You can get your tickets at girlbossbrand dot com.
Speaker 1 (29:32):
Thank you for having me, No, it's always a pleasure
to Tara, and thank you to our listening audience listening
to Finding Out with Pete and the poel with Gold