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May 27, 2026 29 mins
We discuss homeownership and financial empowerment with  Ernest L. Campbell Sr., Mortgage Retail Sales Senior Manager and Executive Director of Residential Lending at Wells Fargo, along with Abraham Reyes Pardo, Vice President of the Office of Housing and Diversion Services for the Urban League of Greater Philadelphia ahead of the free Homebuyer Fair on Saturday, June 6, 2026, from 10 a.m. to 2 p.m. at the Esperanza Arts Center in Philadelphia, featuring housing resources, counseling, and raffles up to $1,000.
Register at Wells Fargo/Urban League Homebuyer Seminar & Fair.
Learn more at Urban League of Greater Philadelphia and Wells Fargo Home Lending.
Follow on Instagram: @urbanleaguephila and @wellsfargo.

We also highlight the next generation of women leaders with Himakshi Shastri, Vice President of Philanthropy for Wharton Women at the University of Pennsylvania, discussing how students are providing pro bono consulting support to nonprofits across Philadelphia and New York City.
Learn more at  Wharton Women.
Follow on social media:
Instagram @whartonwomen,
TikTok @wharton.women,
X @WhartonWomenUG,
Wharton Women Facebook, and Wharton Women LinkedIn.

And finally, producer Maddie Mickelberg separates fact from hype around today’s protein diet craze with Alissa Smethers, PhD, RD, LDN, Assistant Professor of Instruction and MPH in Nutrition Program Director at the Temple University College of Public Health. 







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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Good morning. You're listening to what's going on? A show
about making a difference in our lives and our communities.
I'm Lorraine Ballertmorrow, we'll talk about pathways to home ownership
and financial empowerment with leaders from the Urban League of
Philadelphia and Wells Fargo. Will highlight how Wharton Women's students
are helping local nonprofits thrive through community partnerships and leadership,

(00:20):
and producer Matty Mickelberg speaks to an expert about the
protein craze, separating fact from hype. Stay with us. We're
talking about building wealth, creating stability, and making the dream
of home ownership a reality. The Urban League of Greater
Philadelphia and Wells Fargo are teaming up for a free
home buyer fair on Saturday, June sixth at the Esperanza

(00:41):
Arts Center in Philadelphia, offering expert advice, down payment resources,
and opportunities to connect with industry professionals. Joining us are
Ernest L. Campbell, Senior Mortgage Retail Sales Senior Manager and
Executive Director of Residential Lending at Wells Fargo, along with
Abraham Rais Pardo, Vice President of the Office of Housing

(01:02):
and Diversion Services for the Urban League of Greater Philadelphia
to discuss resources, financial empowerment, and how families can take
the next step towards home ownership. I'm going to start
with you, Abraham. Why is expanding access to home ownership
such an important part of the Urban League of Greater
Philadelphia's mission?

Speaker 2 (01:19):
Yeah, thank you for having us. It's home ownership is
the easiest way to access generational wealth and create stability
for families. Philadelphia has a long standing tradition of home ownership,
and we want to make sure that future generations get
to benefit from that pressure resource. We're working collectively with
partners like Wells Fargo, with the City of Philadelphia, with

(01:41):
the state to make those opportunities available to them.

Speaker 1 (01:45):
Ernest, what are some of the biggest misconceptions first time
home buyers have about qualifying for a mortgage or purchasing
a home?

Speaker 3 (01:54):
Yeah, and thanks for having me as well. I think
probably the biggest misconception is the twenty percent rule, thinking
that you need twenty percent down to purchase, and then
also just thinking that you have to have perfect credit.
I mean, we've all had issues come up here or there.
I know I got my first credit card in college,
while they did that I have no idea and so
I've had some stumbles. But you don't necessarily have to

(02:14):
have perfect credit. You just need to be consulted and
get on the path and you can. You can get
a home for as little as one percent or five
percent down, just depends on program you qualify for. So
I think that this is what we're going to give,
the opportunity for the community to listen and to learn
and hear about and find out if it's if they've
gotten to know that doesn't mean no, it just means

(02:35):
not now, and what we can do to help get
them on the path.

Speaker 1 (02:39):
I love that because knowledge is power, and this is
what this fare is all about. Abraham. What kind of
housing counseling and support services does the Urban League provide
to help people prepare for home ownership.

Speaker 2 (02:50):
Yeah, we do group education sessions where we tell people
everything they need to know about is like a housing
one on one everything they need to know about how
the ABC's of in a home. There is usually a
realtor or lender, home inspector, homewers, insurance agent, and housing
counselor bringing it all together. Then families who attend those
sessions have the option to receive a specialized personalize, one

(03:14):
on one counseling where we talk about their specifics of
our situation. We map their financial profile, credit income assets,
so they know, they take that information and they do
whatever they decide to do with that. In addition to that,
we the Urbanly collectively provides other kinds of counseling related
to renters and people who are struggling in other areas.

Speaker 1 (03:34):
Yeah, and Ernest, you talked about some of the misconceptions
that people have that they think that their down payment
is going to be too big, or their credit scores
will tank their ability to buy a home. So let's
talk a little bit about you know, once someone says
I want to buy a home, I want to be
part of that American dream. What are some of the

(03:55):
things that Wells Fargo does to support that because sometimes
actually with first time homeowners and home buyers, they may
not have the history or the tradition and their families
of having good financial literacy. Right, So tell us a
little more about and Wells Fargo does so much with
financial literacy. Tell us more about that.

Speaker 3 (04:16):
Yeah, I mean, most likely for a lot of our customers,
their bank customers of ours, So it's not just about
the mortgage. We try to look at their total financial picture.
As Abraham mentioned, we partner with organizations like Urban League
and other how to approve counseling agencies to do the
education portion of that. But my team the titles home
mortgage consultants, so we're consulting them the entire way through,

(04:39):
just walking them through what their budget can handle, making
sure that we're not only putting them in a situation
to obtain a home, but to sustain homeownership. So it's
a journey, right and first we start with the pre
approval process, just walking them through what can they afford,
what their monthly payments may look like, what do they
need as far as reserves, How much will they need

(04:59):
to bring to the table for down payment? You know,
what is the time frame on when they make an
offer and they close. I think, you know, maybe another
thing I should have mentioned around misconceptions. There's a lot
of buyers who call their relter first because that's the
fun part of the transaction, is going to look at homes.
You know, a lot of realtors won't let you get
in their car though until they see if you're pre approved.

(05:20):
So I would always say reach out to a home
mortgage consultant or mortgage lender before you start looking at homes,
even though you know that's the fun aspect of the process.
But until you really know what you can qualify for you,
you're probably wasting someone else's time in your own time
to start looking at properties until you have that number
in your head of you know what your price range
should be.

Speaker 1 (05:41):
Abraham. In addition to this fare, this housing fair, I
know that the Urban League provides so many resources to
help people situate themselves so that they're actually able to
purchase a home or whatever, become financially stable. Tell us
a little bit about some of the resources that are
available at the Urban League.

Speaker 2 (06:02):
We have a plethora of programs. The Urban League is
as sparteds to be involved with any conversation that can
create or trigger social mobility. So, in addition to housing counseling,
how to prove housing counseling, as Erin is mentioned, we
offer workforce development. We have an entrepreneurship center civic engagement.
One of our most recent programs that has been a

(06:23):
tremendous success is our services for returning Citizens. We've been
doing that very successfully. Anything that has to do with individual,
family and community development. We aspart to do that. We
have a little surprise coming up soon where there is
a major milestone happening in the history of the organization.

(06:46):
We're going out to West Philadelphia with a well being
center that will be opening probably earlier twenty twenty seven.
Where we are now. I mean not to say that
the Urban Lenk is not physically in Philadelphia. We're a
citywide organization, but this one is feels special because we're
going to have a place where people can come in
and in addition to this amazing wrap around services that

(07:07):
I mentioned, they will be able to do all they're
kinds of development.

Speaker 1 (07:11):
Yeah, that's fantastic. Wells Fargo is out there in the community.
I know that you do so many other things. I
was at an event where a whole bunch of people
came in and helped renovate homes in neighborhoods because I think,
as you know, and as we all know, we actually
have a lot of homeowners, but a lot of them

(07:31):
are not able to upkeep their homes in order to
stay in them, to make sure that they're safe and
they're up to grade, and so Wells Fargo has done
some really cool stuff helping out to help people maintain
their homes, because it's not enough just to own a
home and to afford a home, but also to be
able to keep it up and afford the repairs and

(07:52):
all the upgrades that are necessary.

Speaker 3 (07:54):
Yeah, for sure, the event you're talking about is rock
the Block. So we've done that eight years here in Philadelphia,
except maybe during the pandemic. Every year we've done a
couple of those throughout Philadelphia neighborhoods. We usually partner with
one of the city councilmen, we'll partner with other nonprofits,
and we'll just post it on our internal social media

(08:15):
to invite all of our team members is what we
call our employees, and they all love to come out
and volunteer. So you'll see us all out and I
read Wells Fargo volunteer shirts. We typically have anywhere from
twenty five to fifty different volunteers with other organizations, and
the neighbors are already prepared. We've already done some pre
screening and usually just takes a few neighbors who agree

(08:36):
and raise their hand, and then normally we get the
block to agree. And we've done things from putting new
mailboxes to putting new planners. The last one we did
maybe three or four months ago. We actually put in
some new flooring, did some painting, so you get to
see some of those skill sets of bankers that you
don't get to see at the office. And then of
course for me being six or four, I was painting

(08:57):
all the high places.

Speaker 1 (09:00):
Yes, I feel like I'm in a room with giants
because the two of you are very toll. Abraham tell
us if people want more information about this housing fair
that's happening on June the sixth, where do they find
out more and what are the specifics?

Speaker 2 (09:16):
Once again, Yeah, at June six we're going to be
at this brand's Heart Center from ten am to two pm.
Doors will open at nine point thirty. We want to
see you, we want to feed you, we want to
give you some good information about home ownership. We also
we're going to have some special prices that will be
available for participants. We want people to register, We want
people to show up. All information is available to our

(09:39):
website Urban leaguefiler dot org. That is Urban League phil
at that org, or you can look at us look
us up on event right. All of our events are
posted there, including this fair.

Speaker 1 (09:52):
Absolutely, and you mentioned prizes. There could be folks winning
prizes up to one thousand dollars and the admission is free.
Registration is required, Ernest. If people want to know more
information about Wells Fargo home lending, how do they find
out more?

Speaker 3 (10:06):
Yeah, a good place to start is Wells Fargo Forward
Slash Come Home, which is one of our apps that
allows you to look up properties in different areas and
also see if those properties are eligible for any of
our grant funding. Some properties based on location may qualify
for downpayment assistance. Of course, you can always go to
Wells Fargo dot com or visit one of our Wells
Fargo bank branches and just ask to speak to a

(10:29):
home works consultant. If there's not one in the branch,
they can connect you with one immediately. And we look
forward to seeing everyone at the fair. We'll have at
least ten or fifteen of my team members there to
have one on one conversation, set appointments, and we're looking
forward to putting people on the path of home ownership
so that we have a lot of folks who walk

(10:49):
away maybe with a plan to get a pre approval
and then maybe they want to buy before the end
of the year.

Speaker 1 (10:54):
That would be great. It's helping make the American dream
come true for so many people. If you think the
home ownership is not in your possibility, well these folks
are trying to make it possible for you. The Urban
League of Philadelphia and Wells Fargo teaming up for a
free home buyer fair Saturday, June sixth at the Esperanza
Arts Center in Philadelphia, offering expert advice, down payment resources,

(11:17):
and opportunities to connect with industry professionals. Ernest L. Campbell,
Senior Mortgage Retail Senior Manager, Sales, Senior Manager and Executive
Director of Residential Landing Lending Rather at Wells Fargo, You've
got quite a long title, a beautiful title. Along with
Abraham Rayes Pardo, who's Vice president of the Office of
Housing and Diversion Services for the Urban League of Greater Philadelphia.

(11:40):
Thank you both for joining us here today and we
look forward to seeing you all on June sixth. Today
we're highlighting the next generation of women leaders making an
impact both on campus and in the community. Joining us
is Himakschist, vice President of Philanthropy for Wharton Women at

(12:03):
the University of Pennsylvania. Wharton Women is the largest women
led undergraduate student organization at penn dedicated to supporting and
empowering women pursuing careers in business. Himakchi is helping lead
a pro bono consulting initiative connecting talented undergraduate students with
nonprofit organizations in Philadelphia and New York City to provide

(12:25):
strategic support in areas like marketing, operations, and finance. Today
we're going to talk about leadership, community partnership, and how
students are using their skills to help nonprofits thrive. So
him Acchi is so great to see you again. And
for listeners who may not be familiar, tell us a
little more about Wharton Women and what the organization's mission is.

Speaker 4 (12:46):
Yes, of course. Firstly, Hi Lorraine and high iHeart radio station.
We are so excited to be live on air with
you today. So Wart and Women. It's an organization I
should start off with that is very close to my heart.
It is the largest undergraduate society at Borden and it's
women run and our aim is really to empower women

(13:09):
and underrepresented gender identities to enter the business world. What
I love about this club is that we have twelve
different subcommittees from finance, to marketing, to alumni relations, annual dinner,
to even philanthropy, which is where I sit, and our
mission is really just empowering and uplifting woman to enter

(13:29):
the business world.

Speaker 1 (13:30):
You're helping lead the Wharton Women pro Bono Consulting initiative.
Can you explain what that initiative is and why it
was created.

Speaker 4 (13:38):
PBC is actually one of our newest subcommittees at Bardon Women.
We started off in twenty twenty. I want to be
quite transparent. COVID nineteen, of course, was not an easy time.
I think it took a negative toll on communities in
so many different ways, and one way was definitely economically.

(13:58):
We do go to Borden. It is the best business
school in the world, and we are lucky to have
such incredible professors here. And actually it's in our warden
mission statement to create economic and social value around the
world by advancing society.

Speaker 5 (14:15):
We knew COVID was.

Speaker 4 (14:16):
Quite a challenging time for nonprofits, so we said, why
don't we create this committee use what we are learning
in classrooms to just lend a helping hand to any
nonprofits out in Philly and New York and even though
the pandemic has come to an end, our mission very
much remains the same of uplifting organizations in the Philly

(14:37):
and New York City regions.

Speaker 1 (14:39):
Amachi, can you specifically tell us what your pro bono
provides to these nonprofit organizations.

Speaker 4 (14:46):
In terms of the clients that we work with, I'll
start there. We are warden women and so we do
love working alongside our incredible female founders and nonprofits. As
I mentioned specifically, we'd like to work with those in
Philly and New York City just because it has that
personal element and we want to give back to the

(15:07):
community we're from. We really are not limited by industry.
We've worked with a diverse range of clients, from most
recently Climate Cardinals, which is a climate education organization. We've
worked with Catalyst Noir, which is a startup boot camp
for women tech founders. We've even worked with Team Up

(15:27):
Philly and Zenbroth, which is more in the food space.
So those are the clients we've worked with and in
terms of what we actually provide. While some areas of
support have been analyzing the market for competitors, we've done
a lot of strategizing on business expansion through market research.
We've created new marketing campaigns for new target demographics. So

(15:50):
we really do provide support in a wide range of areas,
and that is something that I do want to emphasize
that any challenge is welcome. If you're an organization or
nonprofit looking for strategy, operations, marketing, finance, we really are
here to support you.

Speaker 5 (16:09):
That is our main aim.

Speaker 2 (16:10):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (16:11):
Well, I think a lot of nonprofits and a lot
of small businesses for that matter, often go into with
very strong ideas and aspirations, but don't always know all
the building blocks that one needs in order to be successful.
I wonder if you can talk about some of the
challenges that nonprofits typically bring to your team for support

(16:32):
and how the student consultants help address those needs.

Speaker 4 (16:36):
I will go back to reiterating that the challenges that
we have worked with have been very diverse in nature.
We have worked with nonprofits who are maybe looking into
expansion into a new demography or maybe a new location,
and they need an extra set of eyes. I think
this is where the student perspective really becomes very valuable.

(16:58):
We've also had challenges where, unfortunately, there have been cases
where nonprofits may have been stripped from funding and they're
looking for other ways to raise funds. So we also
do more research into that some nonprofits. We live in
a very dynamic, tech driven world. I think social media
is something we all utilize, So if you're looking for

(17:21):
ways to maybe increase social media traction, we've worked on
projects like that as well. So really, I think I
could emphasize a lot of different domains from operations, marketing, finance,
to strategy and machi.

Speaker 1 (17:34):
Why is it important to you personally that Warden Women
is building stronger relationships with these nonprofit organizations and communities
right here in Philadelphia and New York City.

Speaker 4 (17:44):
When we think of Philadelphia, yes, we go to school
in Philly, but it's so much more than just a
place we go and study in. It's our community and
at the end of the day, we rise by lifting
others and we want to give back to the community
that has given so much to us. So I think
that would really be what drives us here at Warden

(18:05):
Women PBC.

Speaker 1 (18:06):
Yeah, and just personally, what are your dreams for yourself?
You are obviously very accomplished. Warden is one of the
hardest schools in one of the best. Of course, schools
for business. What is your personal goal what do you
think you like to see yourself moving into Eventually.

Speaker 4 (18:23):
I personally am studying a mix of finance and impact
value in business. For me long term, I would love
to be in a space where I'm either using finance
or maybe looking more into entrepreneurship to make a positive
social impact. I'm not quite sure what exactly that idea
is as if yet, but I think that's the beauty

(18:44):
of being a student. I'm going to explore and hopefully
the next time I come on, iHeart I'll have a better,
stronger answer for you. But really, just using my education
to make a positive impact in the world for sure.

Speaker 1 (18:58):
I love that him. Actually, we hope for the future
of the world, and we need hope right now. And finally,
if a nonprofit leader is listening right now and interested
in receiving pro bona consulting support, how can they connect
with wardon Women and what does the upcoming consulting timeline
look like In.

Speaker 4 (19:16):
Terms of how you can connect with us social media,
we are going by Ward and Women on all our platforms,
film LinkedIn to Instagram. More specifically, though, for our pro
bono consulting initiative, we have created a link. It is
called TinyURL dot com forward slash WWPBC twenty twenty six.

(19:41):
I know that's a.

Speaker 5 (19:42):
Long link to remember.

Speaker 4 (19:43):
So if you are on Instagram, I've just posted a
story this morning, go ahead and click on that link.
It will take you directly to it. If you're a
nonprofit you want to collaborate with Warden Women, We've just
asked for a few details to just understand how we
can best sp you. To answer the latter question on
what the timelines you're looking like, So we want to

(20:05):
have the organizations that we're working with finalized by August,
so really from now to July we'll be reviewing, hopefully
getting on call with some of the nonprofits who are
listening right now, and then from September to November we
will be really just putting our minds to solve any
challenges you want a Warden Woman perspective or look on.

(20:28):
One of the best parts about Warden Women is that
we have a mid term and then a final presentation,
which we typically like to have in person, so hopefully
we also get to meet you face to face. That
is what the timeline looks like.

Speaker 1 (20:42):
Yeah, that's fantastic. I just love that you're doing this
and you're providing these very valuable resources for nonprofits who
often need a little bit of support to become successful
or to grow, and that's what you're doing. At Wharton
Women's Samakchi Shastri, vice President of Philanthropy for Wharton Women

(21:03):
at the University of Pennsylvania, they are providing pro bono
support consulting initiative connecting talented undergraduate students with nonprofit organizations
in Philadelphia and New York to provide strategic support in
areas like marketing, operations and finance. Thank you so much
for all that you're doing, and good luck to you.

(21:23):
We hope to spread the word to other nonprofits who
might be listening. So thank you for all that you're doing.

Speaker 4 (21:29):
Laurene, thank you so much for having us on air,
and to all of the nonprofits listening. Thank you for
the work you do, and we hope we can be
part of your incredible missions.

Speaker 5 (21:39):
Out there.

Speaker 1 (21:44):
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(22:05):
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compassion and canines come together. Seems like everybody's talking about
protein in our diets. Producer Matty Nickelberg speaks to an

(22:26):
expert who helps us separate fact from all the hype.

Speaker 6 (22:30):
In recent years, protein has gone from a basic nutrient
to a major cultural trend. From protein cereals and snack
bars to ice cream and even coffee. Grocery store shelves
are increasingly filled with products promising extra protein and better health.
At the same time, social media and fitness culture have
fueled growing conversations around macros, muscle building, and high protein lifestyles,
particularly among younger consumers. Today, we're joined by doctor Alissa Smethers,

(22:52):
registered dietitian and professor at Temple University to discuss America's
growing protein obsession, the marketing behind many high protein products,
and how consue can better navigate nutrition advice. In the
age of social media wellness trends, it feels like everything
in grocery stores is suddenly high protein now, from cereal
to ice cream to chips. Why do you think protein
has become such a huge focus in American food culture?

Speaker 1 (23:13):
So?

Speaker 5 (23:14):
I think there's a couple reasons. I think one is
a lot of people think that protein is very satiating,
and so it helps us feel fuller longer. So people
are looking for things for weight loss or to help
them Maybe. Yeah, I think probably the main driver's weight loss.
But research really doesn't show that we eat the same
number of calories regardless if our meal is ten percent
protein or thirty percent protein. So it's kind of a

(23:37):
myth that extra protein makes us feel fuller. And when
we're looking at weight loss over time, higher versus lower
protein diets, participants lose the same amount of weight. So
the research doesn't really support that fact that eating more
protein one helps with fullness or weight loss. The amount
doesn't seem to make much difference.

Speaker 6 (23:56):
Are most Americans actually lacking protein their diets or a
company marketing protein more aggressively than ever.

Speaker 5 (24:02):
Yeah, So I think protein is a little trendy right
now maybe has a little bit of a like a
health halo around it. Yes, we all need protein, but
actually the majority of Americans meet or exceed their protein amounts.
So there was a trend around for a while that's
saying you needed one for every one pound of body weight.

Speaker 6 (24:19):
You needed what was like one gram.

Speaker 5 (24:22):
Or on gram of protein, so right, so that what
we actually need is zero point eight grams per kilogram,
so it's like half of that amount. So I think
people took one gram per one pound and kind of
ran with that, but then it actually gets you double
the amount. So the majority of Americans are able to
easily meet that amount. Even if somebody's following a vegan
or vegetarian diet, it's pretty easy through food like whole

(24:44):
foods to get the amount of protein that you need.

Speaker 6 (24:46):
A lot of these products are labeled as healthy just
because they contain extra protein. Does high protein automatically mean
a food is healthier? And what are some of the
dangers of assuming protein equates to health.

Speaker 5 (24:56):
Yeah, So whenever we're looking at processed foods that have
protein added into it, they are also highly processed, so
they're going to have other additives to help them be
more shelf stable. They could have ingredients like added sugar
to sodium salt to improve the taste of the food.
They might have extra saturated fat. So we really have

(25:16):
to be looking at the labels because they could be
high in protein, but they could also be high in
these other nutrients that we really want to limit because
we know they can lead to other disease. And if
we're eating foods constantly, eating foods that have high protein,
we actually don't store extra protein in our body, so
there really isn't a benefit to kind of consuming more
and more. We don't store it, and there could be

(25:38):
detrimental effects for consuming excess protein. It could lead to
weight gain because you're eating more food in general, more calories.
It could lead to inadequate intake of other macronutrients like
carbohydrates which we need, dehydration, other imbalances, so there are
detrimental effects or there could be for consuming too much protein.

Speaker 6 (25:55):
And when people over prioritize protein like this, what are
some things they get overlooked nutritionally when protein becomes the
main focus, So.

Speaker 5 (26:03):
I think they start to eliminate other foods. So whenever
you add something, you have to take something else away, right,
So if they're adding protein, we might be getting rid
of some of our more carbohydrate or fiber rich foods.
So like our fruits and vegetables could decrease, which we
need more of. Most Americans are not meeting their fruit
and vegetable needs, or things like their whole grain or

(26:24):
fiber content could also decrease. And again Americans are not
meeting the recommended recommendations for fiber. So when we're increasing protein,
which we already have enough of, even further, we're decreasing
some of those foods or replacing them, and then we're
still not adequately meeting those needs.

Speaker 6 (26:40):
When we look at the bigger picture around this trend.
How much influence do you think social media and fitness
culture have had on the current protein obsession, especially among
younger people.

Speaker 5 (26:48):
I think it has huge influence. I think people really
are I mean, they're influencers, right, So they're influencing particularly
younger generations who are getting a lot of their news
and their information from social media sites. And whenever I'm
teaching students, I think protein is one of the biggest
things that students are asking about. They're asking how to
get enough protein, How do I increase my protein? And

(27:08):
so I think they just don't realize that. If we
looked at the food they were eating throughout the day
and we kind of counted where those protein sources were
coming from natural foods like the whole grains, their chicken meat,
dairy products, they could see like, oh, I actually am
getting adequate amounts of protein just by continuing to eat
these foods I'm already eating every day.

Speaker 6 (27:26):
Finally, with all of these nutrition trends and healthy products
constantly being pushed and advertised online and in stores, what
advice would you give to consumers trying to maintain a
balanced and realistic relationship with food.

Speaker 5 (27:37):
So I think, I mean, I think all foods fit right,
and there sometimes there might be a need for these
high protein foods. Maybe somebody's commuting and you know, they
really just need a quick food to grab on the go,
So they're looking at the label. It has a lot
of protein, but you also want to look to see
does it have fiber added to it? Does it have
a lot of added sugar. So just kind of being
mindful if you're choosing a high protein food, like something

(27:58):
that's quick on the go, you don't have time to
get something else that looking at those other ingredients like sodium,
saturated fat, ad and sugar are low and things like
fiber are higher to help give a better sense of fullness.
You know, if you're choosing to use the more processed
products that have protein added, trying not to overdo it
because again, excess protein intake could be detrimental, so using

(28:18):
them kind of occasionally.

Speaker 6 (28:20):
We've been talking with doctor Melissa Smothers, registered dietitian and
professor at Temple University about America's growing protein obsession, social media,
nutrition trends, and how we as consumers can better navigate
healthy eating in today's world. Doctor Smathers, thank you so
much for joining us today.

Speaker 5 (28:34):
Yeah, of course, thanks for having me.

Speaker 1 (28:36):
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What will you stand for? You've been listening to what's

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going on and thank

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