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April 30, 2026 โ€ข 29 mins
Today, we’re talking about something that impacts thousands of workers across Pennsylvania—workers’ compensation. Whether you’ve experienced a workplace injury or are navigating benefits, understanding your rights is essential. Joining us is David Stern, founding partner of Stern and Cohen, a Philadelphia-based workers’ compensation law firm recently recognized as a 2025 Gold Winner for Philadelphia’s favorite workers’ compensation firm. He breaks down the basics of workers’ comp and explains Maximum Medical Improvement (MMI)—what it means and how it can affect your benefits, recovery, and future.
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May is World Heritage Month, and Philadelphia is taking center stage as the first World Heritage City in the United States. In this episode, we’re joined by Zabeth Teelucksingh, President of the Global Philadelphia Association, to talk about how this month-long celebration highlights the city’s global significance, rich history, and vibrant cultural diversity. World Heritage Month features a wide range of events across the city throughout May—from cultural festivals and international programs to educational events and community celebrations that reflect Philadelphia’s deep connections to the world.  

Learn how the Global Philadelphia Association has spent more than a decade promoting the region as a hub for global engagement—creating economic and cultural opportunities while uplifting the voices of diverse communities. Whether you're a lifelong Philadelphian or new to the city, this is your invitation to explore, connect, and celebrate what makes Philadelphia truly global.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Good morning, and welcome to what's going on, a show
about making a difference in our lives and our communities.
I'm Lorraine balladmorl. Today we're covering two important conversations, from
protecting your rights on the job to celebrating Philadelphia's global impact. First,
we talk about workers compensation and what you need to know.
Then we're joined by Zabeth T Luxing of the Global

(00:20):
Philadelphia Association to highlight World Heritage Month and how Philadelphia
connects to the world. Stay with us today, we're talking
about something that impacts thousands of workers across Pennsylvania, workers compensation.
Whether it's a workplace injury or navigating benefits, understanding your
rights is critical. Joining us is David Stern, founding partner

(00:42):
of Stern and Cohen, recently recognized as a twenty twenty
five gold winner for Philadelphia's favorite workers compensation firm. We'll
also talk about a new legal update on maximum Medical
Improvement known as MMI and what that means for your benefits.
So stay with us. David, thank you so much for
joining us here today, and for listeners who may not

(01:03):
be familiar, what exactly is worker's compensation and who qualifies
for it in Pennsylvania.

Speaker 2 (01:09):
Thank you for having me so. Workers compensation is a
statewide legal system that provides for the payment of medical
bills and lost wages when you suffer an injury in
the course and scope of employment. Workers compensation, as opposed
to other areas of personal injury law, do not require

(01:30):
a showing of fault. So, in other words, if you
get injured at work, you're entitled to the payment of
your medical bills and lost wages regardless of whether there
was anyone at fault, meaning even if it was your
own fault, if you did something careless, you are still
entitled to these benefits.

Speaker 1 (01:48):
All right, David, let's talk about maximum medical improvement or MMI.
What does it mean and how can it impact somebody's benefits?

Speaker 2 (01:55):
So, maximum medical improvement is a term that's been around
for a long time. It's actually a medical term. Doctors
use this term for when they've gotten a patient about
as far as they can get them in terms of
their improvement in their condition. So perhaps you know, post surgically,
after some therapy, you know you finally will reach a plateau,
and doctors will refer to that as maximum medical improvement.

(02:17):
In Pennsylvania, Unlike other states, just because of an injured
worker reaches that stage, reaches their maximum medical improvement, that
does not necessarily impact their right to receive benefits, whereas
in other states that might be when your benefits end. However,
in Pennsylvania, typically what I will counsel clients is when

(02:38):
they do reach that stage, when they do reach their plateau,
their maximum medical improvement, you know, this is often a
good time to discuss options. Many times those options are
you know, a potential return to work and or a resolution,
a settlement of their case. So although reaching that stage

(03:00):
in your case isn't going to be harmful here in Pennsylvania,
it's a time where I normally have a conversation with
a client about their future.

Speaker 1 (03:09):
What are some of the common mistakes that people make
after getting injured on the job. I mean, you know,
no one expects to be injured, and oftentimes they don't
know what their course of actions should be. So tell
us what people should be aware of.

Speaker 2 (03:26):
So two things jumped to my mind right away. The
first is not notifying a manager or a supervisor that
you were injured. Under the law, there are a statutory
guidelines for how long you have to report an injury.
I've spoken to clients in the past who've suffered an
injury and then they said to me, you know, I

(03:47):
just wanted to gut it out. I wanted to just
try to keep going, and they went, you know, too
long of a period of time without reporting it, and
then there was a problem. So not notifying the employer
is one fall that I see. The second mistake, if
that's the right word here that I that I see

(04:07):
is not taking control of your medical care. So often,
you know, employees will get injured at work. The employer
will direct their employee where to treat. Oftentimes where the
employee gets directed to treat is not in their best interest.
It's in the best interests of the insurance company who's

(04:30):
trying to minimize costs, but it's not in the best
interests of the employee. And you know, you do have
rights here. You're not you know, stuck with the doctor
that the employer is directing you to. But sometimes I see,
you know, people just go way down the road with
these doctors that are not there to help them. And
you know, oftentimes that can be a mistake.

Speaker 1 (04:53):
Based on a personal experience knowing someone who had to
deal it with Workmen's Comp. One thing I have deserved
was he was examined by a Workman's Comp doctor, and
I noticed that the workmen Comp's doctor gave a very
cursory examination that didn't seem to reflect the actual reality

(05:14):
of that person. I wonder if you can talk about that,
because certainly these doctors that Workmen's Comp directs you to
get that examination are going to work in behalf of
Workmen's Comp. So what do you do if someone says, yeah,
you don't look so bad, but you know that you
really are injured.

Speaker 2 (05:30):
Yeah, that's a really good question. I mean, so typically
at the beginning of the claim, the employer may direct
you to a doctor of their choosing, and you know
that doctor is trying to sort of get you in
and out as quickly as possible and save the insurance
company money. And that instance, you know, I recommend that
you know, you find your own doctor that you know
sort of navigating those complicated sees. You know, I would

(05:55):
advise that you get an attorney to to sort of
help you explore those options. But certainly, you know, you
want to get someone in your corner who's going to,
you know, give it a real look. And you know,
using your verbiage, not just a cursory evaluation. The other
thing that happens in these cases, which you may also
be referring to, is the insurance company is entitled to
what's called an independent medical exam. So your friend may

(06:17):
have been you know, you know, involved in one or
even more of those. It's when the insurance company chooses
a doctor and they can do this every six months
to evaluate you and provide the insurance company with an opinion.
These doctors, even though the term is independent or anything
but independent, their livelihood is often tied to the income

(06:39):
they make performing these evaluations, and so they're going to
skew their opinions as far towards the insurance company as possible. So,
you know, sort of having an attorney in your corner
is critical in these instances if you're being sent to
one of these independent medical examinations, you know, so you
know what your rights are when you do get the
report in the mail from that doctor or you know,

(07:00):
claiming that there's nothing wrong with you.

Speaker 1 (07:02):
You know, there may be a certain stereotype about people
who seek workmen's comp you know, you see all these
stories about people who who apply for workman's comp, get
workmen's comp, and then they have a full time job
in constructions elsewhere or something crazy like that. But I
think that that preconception might influence people who might be

(07:24):
reluctant to ask for a workmen's comp simply because they
don't want to be seen as someone trying to shirk
their job or make money off of workman's comp. So
I wonder if you can address that.

Speaker 2 (07:34):
Yeah, I mean, I think the insurance industry has a
pretty good PR department, and you know, they have done
a pretty good job of painting, you know, injured people
in the light where there's a lot of fraud. I've
been doing this for nearly twenty seven years. I can
count on one hand the amount of times that I've

(07:55):
had a client who's engaged in something that even somewhat
approaches fraud or illegality. The truth, and unfortunately this PR
effort hasn't really been pursued with a lot of vigor.
But the truth is that there's a lot more fraud
taking place on the insurance company side. They are denying

(08:17):
claims for people who should not get their claims denied,
denying claims because someone got hurt on a Monday, so well,
you must have gotten hurt and over the weekend if
you're claiming that you're hurt on Monday, you know, and
even it seems like that story would be hyperbole me
saying this to you, but this is what I see

(08:38):
on a daily basis. I can understand why, you know,
folks would have some reticence to pursuing a case based
on sort of the picture that's been painted, but they shouldn't.
And the truth is where there's a lot of inappropriate
behavior taking place is on the other side, on the
insurance side of things.

Speaker 1 (08:57):
Speaking of which you often see the story worries about
hidden cameras or people taking pictures or video. Does that
actually happen? And if that does happen, what can the
individual on workmans do?

Speaker 2 (09:13):
It Absolutely happens. It is somewhat infrequent, but it does happen.
I always tell my clients, you know, listen. In order
for an insurance company to hire a surveillance company and
have someone go out and take video, that is a
reasonably expensive endeavor. So insurance companies are just not you know,
surveilling people for days on end and spending thousands of

(09:37):
dollars on this It happens infrequently, but it does happen,
and it's done somewhat judiciously by insurance companies when they
think maybe they might catch something on video. But what
I always tell my clients is if your doctor would
be okay with what you're doing, then you have nothing
to worry about.

Speaker 1 (09:57):
You know.

Speaker 2 (09:57):
Almost every surveillance video I've ever received is my client
getting in a car, maybe going to get gas, maybe
going to a grocery store, carrying you know, reasonably light bags.
It doesn't show much. And I whenever I show it
to the doctor that's treating my client, they say, I
don't have any problem with this individual engaging in this

(10:20):
sort of behavior. And I say to my clients, you
can't be a prisoner in your home just because you
have a worker's compensation case. So I try to, you know,
impress upon my clients that it's nothing to have fear over.

Speaker 1 (10:34):
Right now, I wonder if you can share one of
the more rewarding cases of your career that really highlights
the importance of this work.

Speaker 2 (10:43):
Yeah, that's a really good question. I'll tell you I've had,
you know, unfortunately, in the last twelve months, I've had
about six or seven death cases that I've handled. And
although these are obviously just the most horrific of circumstances,

(11:05):
what you often find is I'm representing a widow or
a widow er and children, and more often than not,
the decedents' income was very much relied upon by this family.
There's this terrible accident at work, the individual passes, and

(11:28):
now that income is not there, and I've won and
I've settled for very large sums of money relative to
workers' comp cases, several of these in recent months, and
just you know, to hear the dependence, you know, say
to me, oh my gosh, we can breathe again.

Speaker 1 (11:49):
You know we can.

Speaker 2 (11:50):
You know we can pay the rent. You know we can.
It's you know, it's it's been. So this isn't just
any one case, but just sort of grouping a bunch
of these together and re sent months. I find these,
you know, fade, all these death cases when they're when I,
when I'm successful, to be exceptionally rewarding.

Speaker 1 (12:09):
Well that's very interesting because I wouldn't think that workmen's
comp would apply to someone who's passed away. How does
that work?

Speaker 2 (12:15):
So the worker's comp system has what's called fatal claim benefits.
It's for the dependence of the employee who passes, and
it provides a percentage of the decedent's income to the family.
So that that is, you know what we are pursuing
for these families. They've lost a loved one, they've lost

(12:36):
a breadwinner, and you know, the system allows me to
go to court and obtain the lost wages that this
family otherwise relied upon.

Speaker 1 (12:47):
A very interesting I did not know that. How has
workers compensation law evolved in Pennsylvania and what should workers
be paying attention to right now?

Speaker 2 (12:57):
The changes in the law over time. I guess I
would say the system was set up to be construed
in favor of the injured worker. And so what I
mean by that is, if you get injured at work,
even if your employer is the one at fault, you know,
someone left something on the ground haphazardly and you tripped

(13:21):
and you had a bad fall, even if it's the
employer's fault, you can't sue the employer in civil court
for pain and suffering and things like that. Instead, your
rights are relegated to workers comp The trade off there
the fact that you can't go to civil court instead
you have to only you can only pursue workers comp

(13:43):
is that the system was sort of created to be
in favor of the injured worker close calls. You give
the close call to the injured worker because they can't
pursue the employer in any other type of litigation. Contrary
to popular belief, if you have a good lawyer, these
laws are you know, set up in such a way

(14:05):
that you will find success in getting what you're entitled
to under the law.

Speaker 1 (14:12):
Your firm, Stern and Cohen, has just been named a
twenty twenty five gold winner for Philly's favorite workers compensation Firm.
What do you think sets your team apart?

Speaker 2 (14:22):
Yeah, I mean, I love to brag about my firm.
We have really great people who come to work every
day and work really hard with the mission of helping
injured Pennsylvanians and we are one hundred percent committed to that.
You know, when a client calls, we answer the phone.

(14:43):
We don't put people into voicemails, and we treat our
clients with dignity and respect because we know that they're
going through a tough time. And the other thing is,
I'm sure people have seen our billboards around the city
and the picture of myself and my partner Taylor. Unlike
a lot of other firms that you see on billboards
or TV or whatnot, Taylor and I like we actually

(15:05):
represent clients, like we're not just a face on a billboard.
And all the attorneys in my firm have been mentored
by myself, and we just have exceptional litigators. And we
have a firm where we are committed to giving our
clients access to their lawyers. So what sometimes we'll get
phone calls from clients who are represented by other firms,

(15:29):
and the number one complaint they'll say is I never
get to talk to my lawyer. And it's Durning Cohen.
And why I think we, you know, were recognized with
this award, is that our attorneys like we speak to
our clients. I mean, sure, like we have staff and
paralegals and assistants and the clients deal with them regularly.

(15:49):
But if you want to speak to your lawyer, like
you will speak to your attorney. So you know, I
think those sort of things are really what set us apart.

Speaker 1 (15:57):
Knowing what it's like to go through a workman's comp situation,
observing it on the other side of it, I understand
how important it is to have your handheld a little
bit because it's such a stressful time. Certainly, the majority
of people would like to get back to work, and
certainly at the end of the day they want to
get past the injury and live a normal life. So

(16:18):
having that kind of personal contact has got to be
very important. So if someone believes they are not being
treated fairly or their benefits are being cut off, what
steps should they take and how can they get help?

Speaker 2 (16:30):
Well, you know this is not a coined response, but
the answer is to call an attorney. The worker's compensation
system is very complicated. The insurance company or you know,
the employer and the insurance company are far more adept
at dealing with these cases than the injured worker is.
And many times, whether the injured worker knows it or not,

(16:53):
the insurance company and the employers already have counsel involved,
you know, so they're sort of moving in stride with
what they're being told by an attorney, and you should
level the playing field. You should have an attorney who
can be there for you to make sure that nothing
inappropriate does take place. And the nice thing about workers

(17:16):
comp arrangements with lawyers is it's a contingent fee. So
if you call me and you know you want to
get some advice and retain me as your attorney, you know,
you don't take out your checkbook and write me a check.
We work on a contingent fee and only get paid
if there's some type of financial recovery based on our efforts.

(17:36):
So you know, it really levels the field in the
sense that, like you don't have to pay to get
the best attorney, you can have any attorney you want
because of this arrangement.

Speaker 1 (17:48):
Yeah. Well, if people would like to get in touch
with your law firm, Stern and Cohen, how did we
do that?

Speaker 2 (17:53):
I mean, I always like to direct people to our
website sterncohenlaw dot com. The phone number is to one
five nine one four four three.

Speaker 1 (18:04):
We've been talking about something that impacts thousands of workers
across Pennsylvania, and that is workers compensation. Whether it's a
workplace entry or navigating benefits, understanding your rights is critical.
Thank you so much. David Stern, founding partner of Stern
and Cohen, recently recognized as a twenty twenty five gold
winner for Philadelphia's favorite workers compensation firm. Thank you so much.

(18:27):
For joining us today.

Speaker 2 (18:28):
Thank you for having me.

Speaker 1 (18:34):
Philadelphia has many distinctions, but one of them is as
a World Heritage City. We're going to be talking about
celebrating our city's global significance as the first World Heritage
City in the United States. Joining us is Zabeth T. Luxingh,
President of Global Philadelphia Association, to talk about this month,
which really talks about World Heritage a month, what it means,

(18:56):
and how you can take part in all kinds of
celebrations happening throughout May. So Beth. For listeners who may
not be familiar, what is World Heritage Month and why
is it so important to Philadelphia.

Speaker 3 (19:07):
Good morning, Lorraine. It's a pleasure to be with you
this morning, and thank you very much for your partnership.
World Heritage Month is a month long celebration of our
city as the first World Heritage City in the United States.
As you probably know, our city is full of all
sorts of nations heritage festivals, and these are things that
we want to celebrate as one and really put the

(19:30):
spotlight on them. Through the work that we do at
Global Philadelphia Association.

Speaker 1 (19:34):
We know that Philadelphia holds the distinction as being the
first World Heritage city in this country. What does that
designation actually mean for our city and the people who
live at it.

Speaker 3 (19:45):
So, UNESCO identifies World Heritage Sites all over the world.
There are currently about one thy thirty three of them,
and every year another twenty five or so are designated.
In nineteen seventy nine, when these designations would just beginning,
Philadelphia's Independence Hall was designated as a UNESCO World Heritage Site.

(20:07):
In order to do this, you have to show outstanding
universal value to humanity, which is a very large accolade.
As such, World Heritage City designation stems from the fact
that we have at least one UNESCO World Heritage Site
in our city and are also a city of heavy

(20:28):
historical significance.

Speaker 1 (20:30):
When we talk about Philadelphia and Philadelphians, we're often very
much a city of neighborhoods, and we're often really not
looking so outside of our personal ten block area that
we consider to be our neighborhood. And yet Philadelphia is
an international city, and I know that one of the
things that you have been working on very much so

(20:53):
is raising awareness about our role is an international city
and perhaps expand our definition of how we see ourselves.

Speaker 3 (21:02):
You know, I really like that emphasis on neighborhoods, Lorraine,
because you're so right, it's such an integral part to Philadelphia.
You know, everyone has to say which high school they
came from in Philly. I went to high school in London,
So there's always that disconnect. But I think what we're
offering here and what a lot of people know already,
is a different angle on Philadelphia. Of course, the neighborhoods matter,

(21:24):
They're really important. Your high school is your local elementary school,
your library, et cetera, et cetera. But think about the
neighborhoods a little differently, and I know a lot of
people do. For example, if you're in South Philly, you
love those markets in the summer in Fdr Park. It
started with the South Asian market, and now there's a
Latin market and also an African market, and people just

(21:45):
love these opportunities to celebrate different heritages. Likewise, if you're
from North Philly and around the Bustletown area, you've got
a plethora of restaurants celebrating all sorts of cultures, be
it Turkish, Russian, Ozbecki's Donny and I could go on.
So I think what we're saying is yes, the neighborhoods matter,

(22:06):
but you can skin a cat differently, and we're skinning
Philadelphia differently and saying, look, how international it is.

Speaker 1 (22:13):
I once did an interview with a group representing Wharton
Black MBAs, and what I found very interesting about the
individuals that I met was in their program of learning,
they were made they were made aware of the world internationally,
whether it was people that were in their classes or

(22:36):
projects that they were engaged in. And what that did
for this group was to open their eyes to international
business opportunities. I think so much of us think about
business or maybe starting our own business as being very
local and being very much about our neighborhoods. But what
these MBA graduates were understanding is that there's a word

(23:00):
world of opportunity outside of not only their neighborhoods, the city,
the state, the country, but in the world.

Speaker 3 (23:07):
Loraene, I think you'll say, right an opportunity is the
operative word, because as soon as you start looking at
something from another angle, thinking about it differently, you're going
to see that there are different opportunities in it. And
that is why Philadelphia is actually so rich, I think,
in opportunity because there are all sorts of people looking

(23:28):
at our city, thinking about our city in different ways.
And yeah, Wharton understands that. They know that as soon
as you start positioning people who are from different places,
you can spark and ignite new ideas and think about
new opportunities. And that's really the value of this world positioning,
in addition to making things really good fun.

Speaker 1 (23:50):
World Heritage Month is in May. I know that Global
Philadelphia has so many association has so many events and
our opportunities to connect with that tell us a little
bit about what you have in store for us.

Speaker 3 (24:05):
Sure, So it's a whole month of international events. And
I was just browsing our website this morning and to
talk to you more about this and to realize that
there's a food component, there's a music component, there's a
dance component, there's a business component. Anything that might interest you,
be it category wise or be it country wise, you're

(24:26):
likely to find something that's going to pique your interest
during World Heritage Month. And yes, it's very global, because
our city is very global, and so once you put
your mind to it, it's actually not that difficult to
identify a whole host of things going on internationally. I'd
like to spotlight in particular our partnership with the Free Library,

(24:46):
which is very robust, and with them, we're doing a
whole series of events around food and different nationalities and
different cultures. And I think food is always a unifier
and that's something that people are going to really enjoy.

Speaker 1 (24:59):
Yes, And we are so a city that has benefited
from the influx of immigrants despite the current political situation
that we're experiencing. So having the opportunity to see the
diversity and the cultural richness that immigrants have brought into
the city is extraordinary. And I suppose that World Heritage

(25:21):
Month helps us showcase some of that diversity. You know, Areena.

Speaker 3 (25:25):
I'd like to dwell on that for a minute, because
I think heritage and people's heritage, as the world becomes
more turbulent, those things are becoming more and more important.
Where people come from, what they like to do, what
they like to listen to, those things really matter more
and more, I think, And rather than sort of looking
for a vanilla generalization of who and what you are,

(25:45):
people are really looking to expouse what they represent, what
they're known or cooked for them, what their uncle was
putting on the barbecue or the bray if they're from
South Africa, et cetera, et cetera, et cetera. I think
this is a really important component to who people are,
and what better place to celebrate that than Philadelphia, which
is such an open and wide thinking city.

Speaker 1 (26:07):
Zabeth. I'm trying to remember when we first met, and
that's when you let us know that we were receiving
the designation as a World Heritage City. I wonder if
you can reflect a little bit about all the changes
that have happened since you started. You started how many
years ago here in Philly.

Speaker 3 (26:24):
Twenty eleven was when I joined the Global Philadelphia Association
and it was a year old startup, and I think
World Heritage Month is actually a reflection of that, because
it's actually a throwback to something that you helped us with.
Back then. We used to call it the Global Philly Expo,
and we did it four years running alternately from twenty
eleven through twenty nineteen, and that was a really great
way to showcase our city. But guess what, we kind

(26:46):
of stopped doing that because folks would have really began
to realize the value of us being an international city,
and that was really terrific, and we applaud the fact
that that evolution has occurred. Fast forward to this year,
and of course with welcoming the FIFA World Cup here
and so many other things and all the different international
angles that our cities seems to portend. I think everyone

(27:09):
knows now that yes, Philadelphia is international, and it's really
valuable for it to be that way. I would like
to say, though, that the work is not finished. If
you go overseas, you will still find that Philadelphia is
not in the top twelve cities in America that people
choose to visit first. And we're all about helping to
change that along with our tourism partners and others, because

(27:31):
we know the value of Philadelphia and most people when
they come here quickly realize the value of Philadelphia too,
and that's something we want to celebrate.

Speaker 1 (27:39):
There's so many activities that are happening, events, opportunities to volunteer,
and my husband and I have taken on doing a
something new and interesting once a week and so I
can see that I can go to your website and
pick any number of things to really expand our horizons,
have fun and have very great days. So if people

(28:01):
want to know more about all the events that are
happening during World Heritage Month, or if they'd like to
volunteer or support the work of Global Philadelphia Association, how
do they do that.

Speaker 2 (28:12):
It's really easy.

Speaker 3 (28:13):
You just pivot to our website and to your point, Lorraine,
a tremendous amount of people in Philadelphia use that website
to find things that are fun beyond World Heritage Month
that are going on, especially internationally. So that's Global Philadelphia
dot org. You can also sign up for our newsletter,
which on a monthly basis at the beginning of the
month is going to showcase a whole bunch of things

(28:35):
that you might be interested in doing that are international
in focus.

Speaker 1 (28:38):
And remind us what the website is.

Speaker 3 (28:40):
Global Philadelphia dot org.

Speaker 1 (28:43):
Global Philadelphia dot org lots of opportunities not only during
World Heritage Month but throughout the year three sixty five.
That is your one stop shop for all the things
that make Philadelphia World Heritage City. I'd like to thank
you so much for all the work that you've done.
May is World Heritage Month, and in Philadelphia, we celebrate
our city's global significance. Is the first World Heritage City

(29:06):
in the United States. Isabeth T. Luxingh President of Global
Philadelphia Association. Thank you so much for joining us today.

Speaker 3 (29:13):
Thank you Lorein, and thank you for your partnership. We
really appreciate it.

Speaker 1 (29:17):
You can listen to all of today's interviews on the
iHeartRadio app and all podcast platforms by typing in keywords
Philadelphia Community Podcast. Follow me on Instagram and threads at
Lorraine Ballard and Lorraine Barrel on TikTok and that's Lorraine
with one R. I'm Lorraine Balladmorrel and I stand for
service to our community and media that empowers. What will
you stand for? You've been listening to what's going on,

(29:38):
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