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October 23, 2025 48 mins
Joined by Nico Echavarria! A great conversation on his journey, his success and his goals. And some great advice on putting. The Tea with D, The Course of Course with Harry Mayes and See The Line with BetParx for the Bank of Utah Championship!

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Speaker 2 (00:24):
We just got to get out there and swing and
ding it. Yeah, you know, just guess it's gonna go
out there and try to swing it and ding it.

Speaker 3 (00:33):
Welcome into Swing It and ding It. This is Moose
along with Maze and Matthews. We were just together. We'll
talk a lot about that later in the show. For
the Swing It and Ding It open benefiting the Magic
Amala Foundation. An absolute blast, a lot of money, raise
for a great charity, and more fun than most people
should have in one day, that's for sure. But we
will talk about our bad golf games later. Let's talk

(00:54):
about a beautiful golf game right now. Because we're welcome.
Welcome our guests Nico Area to swing it and sing it.
Welcome to the show man. How's it going.

Speaker 2 (01:04):
Thank you guys, Happy to be here, talk some golf
and enjoy the night.

Speaker 4 (01:09):
Love it.

Speaker 3 (01:09):
So you're you're fresh off a Knife Place, just finish
right in the bay. Current Classic in Japan. Japan has
been pretty good to you, it seems. Yeah, what is
it about Japan that brings out the best in UNIQUEA.

Speaker 2 (01:22):
Well, it's definitely not the travel. I don't don't love
the long flights, but I do love like that country.
It's a special place. I don't know if you guys
have been, but the culture. There's something about their culture
and how polite they are and and how how much
they want you to come to their country. So you're

(01:43):
just feeling welcomed out there. The crowds are awesome, So
it's it's a lot of good energy, good people that
are very passionate about golf, and they're they're very polite,
not a lot of mashed potatoes.

Speaker 3 (01:57):
That's awesome. That's awesome.

Speaker 5 (02:00):
Go to PGA Tour wins now, as you just talked
about the Zozo Championship, the twenty twenty three Puerto Rico Open,
as well as to Latin PGA Tour wins, but it
didn't come like that. Take us back to Magene, like,
what what did junior golf look like for you growing
up in Colombia and how different was that whole journey
compared to maybe what a traditional like US system journey

(02:20):
looks like.

Speaker 2 (02:22):
Well, it's it's not a common one. And that's why
I decided, uh to not do my senior year of
high school in the Gene. I decided to go to
IMG academies. Just golf back home is is small. It's uh,
there's not a lot of events. There's there's just not
a lot of courses. So I wanted to get recruited

(02:44):
by by coaches. I wanted to play a j GA
events and other big events out here so it would
be a little easier for the coaches to recruit me.
And so that was kind of my pathway. I I
started showing coaches a little bit of who I was
in U in the Junior World in San Diego. I

(03:07):
finished third there and then I went the next week
and I lost in the semifinals of the US Junior
And this this was like the wow moment for me.
I was sixteen, I was going into my senior year
of high school, and and I took the full decision, Okay,
I'm gonna do this. I want to find a place
where I can I can play golf, I can develop
my game, and that's how I ended up in Arkansas.

(03:30):
It's not very popular for a Columbian.

Speaker 3 (03:32):
To go kind of the same thing where you up.

Speaker 5 (03:35):
Maybe a culture shock, but yeah.

Speaker 2 (03:38):
Yeah, big culture shock. But I don't think I would
have gone there if I didn't go that year to IMG.
So it was good to take official visits that no
one at the time was doing. Everyone was committing when
they were fifteen and sixteen and I and I did
the process the right way. But I was the last
one in my class to commit to a school. So

(04:02):
it was a it was a cool moment, cool cool times.
And I missed those days.

Speaker 5 (04:07):
Oh, I'm sure. And you were heavily recruited too. I'll
burn U NC Arizona State, Florida. Yeah, and went to Arkansas.

Speaker 1 (04:14):
Yeah yeah, So what why Arkansas? Did John Daily take
you out for a weekend or something?

Speaker 4 (04:20):
I mean, why did you pick Arkansas?

Speaker 2 (04:24):
I just liked the hey similar to Japan. I like, well,
not saying Fayeville is any any similar Japan, but I
like the energy. The people there treated treat you well.
Everything in Arkansas revolves around the University of Arkansas. There's
no pro teams, there's there's no uh so everyone's involved

(04:46):
in what Razorbacks are doing. And I just kicked it
off with with good teammates, good coaches that that I
knew it was a place that I needed to earn
my spot to play on the team or to play
to play in the lineup, but I liked the facilities
and the people and it was it was a hard

(05:07):
decision for me because I was in between three big schools,
but I'm glad of that I picked Arkansas.

Speaker 3 (05:15):
That's awesome. Well, thank you for saying where you're from.
We only know that from Entourage, from the show Entourage.
How to pronounce uh medighin is what everyone says from here.

Speaker 5 (05:23):
But yeah, five times before we started.

Speaker 3 (05:27):
You did good. But you know, right out of the
gate success, right, you get a win in your rookie
year that gets you into the major. So you've played
in all four of the majors and obviously you know
you win the Part three contents of the Masters, which
had to just be a blast, but you finished fifty
first and the Masters t forty one. The PGA talk

(05:49):
about that, right, just you get in your first year,
you get a win, and now you're playing in all
four majors. What was that experience?

Speaker 2 (05:54):
Like for you, Well, it wasn't. It wasn't as quick
as people think. It was a lot of grind and
a lot of tough days out there. I graduated in
twenty sixteen, I got I've actually played with Brandon a
lot in PGA Tour Latin America. We got our cards
kind of the similar years and on corn Ferry I

(06:15):
didn't have much success at all. I got my PGA
Tour card the last event of the last round of
the year. I shot five under bogie free at Victoria
National to get in. And so it's been a process
for me, and I think that when in Puerto Rico,
I'm gonna say it came kind of out of nowhere.

(06:36):
I wasn't having a great year out there. I was struggling.
I was I was not feeling comfortable, and so winning
an opposite field event that let's say has a weaker field,
it was kind of giving you time to prepare for
what the PGA Tour is. It gave me two years
to Okay, we're gonna have job security, let's get better.

(07:00):
What do we need to do now to play against
the best in the world. Because right now, clearly, yes,
you just won, but you weren't doing that, so it
was kind of refreshing to have a cushion of time
to just prepare, evolve and get better. So yeah, luckily

(07:21):
a good week in Puerto Rico gave me gave me security.

Speaker 3 (07:26):
One week, Right, we talk about a lot in the show.
One week can change a lot. Good week, one good
week can change a lot.

Speaker 5 (07:32):
And I love sharing the story of your journey that
it started. You know, that wasn't just looking as easy
as it does on paper. That it was grinding on
the Latin Dour then Cornberry and like you said, like
just getting in on the last event. I think it's
awesome when we can hear stories like that. But you
said Puerto Rico was, you know, maybe an opposite field event,
not the strongest field, but Zozo that's a pretty prestigious event,

(07:53):
and that field is stacked and it's on an international stage.
So what did that moment feel like to be like, Okay,
only did I win the Porto Rico, but now I'm
a champ.

Speaker 2 (08:05):
Yeah, it was kind of a proof of the quality
progress that I was doing. I remember perfectly they I
had a good Thursday round and the media talked to
me and I just said like, hey, I just want
to have an opportunity on the back nine on Sunday
because I know what how you can tell as a

(08:28):
golfer when things are going the right way, And it's
all about putting yourself in that moment and see how
the tables turn. It's very hard to beat Tiger Woods
and win every Sunday that you're on contention, but you
just want to have the opportunity to do it. And
and I had that feeling since Thursday, like hey, if
I'm there, something can happen. And I kept saying it. Friday,

(08:51):
I kept saying it. Saturday and Sunday I was and
it was I'm not going to say I felt comfortable
in the moment, but it was exactly what I wanted
and where I wanted to be. And I just held
on and and and with some grit, I I was
able to pull it off.

Speaker 3 (09:10):
That's a great trophy. Now, where is that thing?

Speaker 2 (09:14):
There's a you don't get the trophies. You get like
kind of replicas of I'm glad. I'm glad I didn't
get them because it's a fan Dison fan. It's huge.
So they sent, they sent it took them like seven
months to get the replica in, and I have it
somewhere down in kind of a little trophy area that

(09:37):
we have in our house.

Speaker 5 (09:39):
It's funny how nonchalant you golfers are about your trophies.
You're like, yeah, it's sitting over there somewhere.

Speaker 4 (09:46):
Nico.

Speaker 1 (09:47):
Talk about your support network and your team and what
it's like living thousands of miles away from where your
your hometown is.

Speaker 4 (09:56):
How difficult is that.

Speaker 2 (09:58):
It's it's tough. Luckily, I have probably the closest person
in my team is my wife, and and I have
it right next to me most of the year. But
I have a I can't preach enough of the having
the right team for your career, and I I'm lucky
that I found a good coach, a good sports psychologist,

(10:20):
and a good caddy. I've kept kind of the same
lineup for for a while now. I've been working with
my caddie for since Latin America. I've been working with
my coach since COVID, and I started working with the
sports psychologists for three years. They're both of them. Sports
psychologists and coach are from Argentina and my catudies from.

Speaker 3 (10:47):
Yah.

Speaker 4 (10:48):
You broke up there when you were tarrying us who
your caddy was.

Speaker 2 (10:51):
Yeah, he my caddies from Columbia. He's so we keep
it very Latino Latin team.

Speaker 5 (10:58):
I love that. Well, you mentioned your wife just real quick,
I know when you were contending before. I'm you know,
I help Brad faxon with a social and he's like,
you got to get me something on nego. So I
texted Claudia, I'm like, give me something like fun facts
about you guys, and she said that you find a
place like a burger joint everywhere that you go to
try a new burger. Are you guys still doing that?

Speaker 2 (11:19):
Yeah, we try to. We haven't. We haven't been as
strict as we used to be, but we do, like
maybe once or twice a month on the road try
to get a good burger. We both have been eating
a little healthier. Or our wedding's coming up and now
I'm thirty one and the body's taking its toll of
having a burger. It's not the healthiest thing there is.

Speaker 3 (11:42):
That's funny. Now, growing up, who did you kind of idolize?
Who were who were some of the players that you
you looked looked up to.

Speaker 2 (11:51):
It was both my brother, my brother was a great
golfer at the University of Florida. He won secs UH
and also Camilla Camila was it was the hometown hero.
He was the Tiger Woods for kids here. I wanted
to dress like Camillo. I want to have those big
belt buckles with orange pants and the flat hat up there.

(12:15):
And he's been I've been lucky to spend so much
time with him. He's been a mentor to me and
also a friend. And seeing what he's gone through with
the passing of his daughter, and seeing the perspective he
has in life, as I've learned so much from him,
it's been I've been very lucky to share time with

(12:38):
him out there.

Speaker 5 (12:39):
Niko, if we could go back to when you were
maybe ten years old and tell you you'd be playing
in the twenty twenty four Olympics with him walking into
opening ceremony with a Colombian flag on your chest, like,
describe what that, even you know, means to you emotionally.

Speaker 2 (12:53):
I got goosebumps right now because I go back to
when I was little and I was I remember, like
those things that you remember exactly the time and place
where you are, remember the moment when he won the
I think it was the BMW, his first PGA Tour event.
I remember I was watching the tournament at my grandma's
house in the couch and soaking it all in, and

(13:16):
I was like, I want to do that. That is
so cool. I just got inspired and yeah, here we
are incredible.

Speaker 5 (13:24):
Yeah, I know that you two are close and watching
that friendship and just you guys in the Olympics. That's
pretty special.

Speaker 1 (13:31):
Well, now, I know the rankings are not out yet
for the President's Cup, which is three hundred and thirty
five days away at Medina, but Jeff Ogilvie, the captain,
has got to be having a keen eye on you.
How important is that for you to make that team?

Speaker 2 (13:48):
It's the number one thing right now. I kind of
put some kind of goals as screen savers in my phone.
When I was trying to get into the Olympics, I
did just put the rings there. When I was trying
to get into the Masters, I put the Masters there.
And now it's been the President's Cup for for quite
a while now. We were lucky to spend some time

(14:11):
three four weeks ago in Medina with some of the
some of my teammates. Hopefully it was like twelve thirteen
of us. Jeff was there, Camilla was there, Trevor was there,
and it was maybe the best best week of the
year for me. We had so much fun and I
can't wait. Hopefully we can we can make that team

(14:33):
because it would be very special.

Speaker 3 (14:37):
That would be very cool.

Speaker 5 (14:40):
I love it. Well, Nico, we are all Philly based,
the three of us. We all went to Temple University,
so we always close out the show asking a little
bit something about Philly. So I need to know have
you been to the Northeast and have you played any
courses in Philadelphia? If so, which one is your favorite?

Speaker 2 (14:59):
I have Well this is controversial because I've landed in
the Philly airport and I've went to play Pine Tally.

Speaker 5 (15:04):
I don't know Counts.

Speaker 3 (15:08):
Oh yeah, yeah, oh yeah.

Speaker 2 (15:10):
Well it's my favorite course in the world.

Speaker 3 (15:12):
Really, it's special.

Speaker 2 (15:13):
Yeah, I love that.

Speaker 5 (15:15):
We have one other question for you, then, driving in Columbia,
I've done it. That traffic is so well. Do they
still have certain times of day where you can only
drive based on your license plate? Is that still current now?

Speaker 2 (15:26):
Yeah, it's kind of trying trying to avoid having too
many people on the roads. They block like a certain
number of for for the day that you can't use
your car and it's a mess down there. For for
traffic it.

Speaker 5 (15:42):
Is I don't know what. What I would feel is
more pressure playing you know, a final round, uh you
know of golf for driving in that traffic again, that's you.

Speaker 2 (15:51):
Get used to it. It's normal for me now. So
driving out here is it's a piece of cake compared
to that.

Speaker 5 (15:57):
Yeah, for sure.

Speaker 3 (15:58):
Back to Pine Valley real quick, though, tell us give
us a little more what what made what makes that
your favorite?

Speaker 2 (16:06):
Well, it's definitely not the Philly Airport terrible. It is chaos.
It is so bad. If you don't get delayed, it's
because you're you're lucky that day. I've had some some
terrible issues there. But about Pine Valley is I don't

(16:26):
know if this word is being too popular now, but
there's a lot of aura. How do you say aura?
There's a there's a lot of area out there.

Speaker 3 (16:36):
It's hard to describe why it's so great, right.

Speaker 2 (16:38):
It's yeah, it's just special. I would say, I'm going
to criticize a little of the course, the greens. If
you're if you're playing a real round out there, some
of the pins are are just ridiculous. Most of the
members when when they are, they play fast, so they
would pick up.

Speaker 3 (17:00):
Uh.

Speaker 2 (17:00):
Some of the greens are are very severe. But it's
just a special place. Everything everything's in the right place.
I don't know if that makes sense.

Speaker 3 (17:08):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah it does.

Speaker 5 (17:11):
I would agree with you.

Speaker 4 (17:13):
Yeah, I got one more. You're you're a terrific putter.

Speaker 1 (17:15):
I mean, right now, I think your eighth and strokes
gained on the tour and it's it's probably the i'd
say the strength of your game.

Speaker 4 (17:22):
Would you you'd probably agree with that.

Speaker 1 (17:24):
What makes you such a great potter? And how much
time do you spend on it?

Speaker 2 (17:30):
To be honest with you, I don't. It's probably one
of the least parts that I spend time like. It's
maybe the least amount of time I spent in the
areas of golf. What makes me a good partter? I
think it's it's a habit, creativity and imagination. I hopefully

(17:50):
I'm wrong, Hopefully I'm not wrong. But I've never done
a point or I've never tried to do a point.
I just I'm a visual guy and I I want
to feel, feel breaks and feel how how precise, like
I picked spots around the hole where I want the
ball to go in on breaking putts. And I think
that helps a lot with with imagination of being very

(18:12):
specific of if a putt breaks hard left or right,
you're the center of the hole has changed and has
moved towards the nine o'clock side. And and I think
I got that from my brother. He's he's always been
a good putter, and and he's the one who showed
me like, okay, you feel with your when once you're
over the ball and you see a lot of break,

(18:32):
you just see the ball going on the sides of
the hole and picking picking little targets for to be precise.
And I think that's what makes me good at putting.
I just get creative out there and and and obviously
practice speed, but but I just think it's the visual
part of it.

Speaker 3 (18:51):
Very interesting. Yeah, yeah, Scotty, I've heard an interview where
he says, like how he likes to visualize the entire
path of the ball, not just like going to a spot.
But that's interesting how you say you picture the center
of the of the hole changes at that point, right,
that that's very cool to hear it. Hear it described

(19:12):
that way.

Speaker 2 (19:12):
I struggle find seeing like the whole trajectory off the line,
but I make a good picture of the image of
where the ball would go in, and that gives me
kind of the adjustment of if it's going to be firm,
if it's going to be soft, if I'm gonna diet there,
if I'm gonna get it through the break. And I mean,

(19:34):
you don't hit puts the same way. You hit different
puts the whole time, the different speeds. Sometimes it breaks
more so you want to die in, and sometimes it's
firm back of the hole. So I think visually like
seeing the picture of the ball going in in the
right part of the hole, it helps a lot.

Speaker 3 (19:51):
Awesome, so cool, Thank you for that. That's an awesome,
awesome little nugget you left us with to think about it.
I wish I had a putting green at the house.
I'd go out there right now. Thank you so much
for joining us. We'll be rooting for you. We appreciate
you taking some time and hope to have you back
on after your next win. That's what we ask everybody,
after your next win. We want you back on absolutely.

Speaker 2 (20:11):
Thank you guys for having me.

Speaker 3 (20:14):
All right, it's nick a quick break and we'll be
right back. All right, welcome back to swing it and
thing it awesome to talk to Nico. What a great
conversation that was. Yeah, he's the best, so cool.

Speaker 4 (20:25):
Very easy to root for.

Speaker 3 (20:26):
Yeah, you know, no doubt about it, no doubt about it. Well,
let's get right into some tea and see where the
conversation takes us.

Speaker 5 (20:33):
Let's do it all right, time to spill some tea.
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Speaker 4 (21:11):
Great again.

Speaker 5 (21:13):
Seriously, guys, I don't know. I saw this on social
and I was like, wait, I had to reread the
headline Golf behind Bars. Yep, that is correct. Cedar Creek
Correction Center has an inmate golf program, foam balls, borrowed clubs,
makeshift range just literally played like on a softball field.
And now there is a full documentary called Golf Behind

(21:36):
Bars about how this game is teaching patients discipline and
even giving inmates their first round of golf. You know.
Ever so so, mostly it's pretty cool. It's getting some
really good reviews, and it's actually not sure where you
can catch it. You can google it and figure it out.
But Harry, you've sounded like you might have heard about this.

(21:56):
Did you see this already?

Speaker 4 (21:57):
No, I actually haven't. This is this is news to me.

Speaker 1 (21:59):
But I've definitely felt like the need for solitary confinement
after a few rounds off in my time.

Speaker 5 (22:06):
Well, one of the notes on one of the notes
on the social post was, I guess one of the
guys that they feature, after he got out, he played
like a real round and I guess, you know, somebody
like teed it up and did something and he was like, hey,
you're actually gonna cheat in front of a cop like
he's sitting right there. So he was calling him out
on the rules. So I guess they're really teaching the
rules and you know, the full game and everything.

Speaker 4 (22:26):
So is this on like some streaming service or YouTube.

Speaker 3 (22:29):
Man, I just saw a social media clip about it,
a couple a couple of posts about it. I don't,
I don't, I don't know. There must be some sort
of documentary.

Speaker 5 (22:34):
Or a student it's a full documentary. Yeah, okay, yeah,
I'll have to figure out where it's from and get
back to you guys. So well, if i'd watch it, yeah,
for sure, we'll watch anything about golf. Friend. Yeah, the
Century I said last week that they were looking for
a new venue. It is out for twenty twenty six.
PJ Torqum firm there will be no Century Tournament of

(22:55):
Champions in twenty twenty six. So yeah, that's a pretty
much else a schedule shake up because of yeah, the
Tournament of Champion. So, I mean that's tough. Imagine winning
for the first time and getting excited to kick your
ear off with that everything, we have a water issue
and no course for you to play. So I wonder
what they'll do with that now that it's just gone

(23:17):
from the schedule.

Speaker 1 (23:18):
Well, you know, I think maybe by next year they
would find another venue for it. You would, you would think,
thank you you know, whether it's in Hawaii or somewhere else.

Speaker 4 (23:27):
But I'm just crazy. It's just crazy to me that
they can't relook.

Speaker 1 (23:30):
They relocated the Genesis in shorter notice, you know, down
to San Diego to Tory Pines and played the tournament,
and that.

Speaker 4 (23:38):
Was an elevated event. This is an elevated event.

Speaker 1 (23:41):
And like you said, this is this was always like
the you know, the the Daytona.

Speaker 4 (23:45):
Five hundred, if you will, of the PGA Tour. It
was the start of the year. It was a big event.

Speaker 1 (23:50):
It was you know, now, if it was held somewhere
in like Las Vegas or somewhere else, you know, I don't.

Speaker 4 (23:56):
Think people would have really minded. No, they wanted a tournament.

Speaker 5 (24:00):
Yes, that's what I'm saying. It's south. If you're first
time champion, we're getting ready for this. It's like, yeah,
not this year. And like you said, I had the
same thought. I'm like, okay, I guess it had to
be on the West coast. But there wasn't one course
that they could figure out to have by January.

Speaker 4 (24:15):
Yeah, I don't get it.

Speaker 1 (24:16):
They didn't really give a reason why they're not doing it,
except that they can't do it.

Speaker 4 (24:19):
At Kapalua.

Speaker 5 (24:20):
Yeah, you know, so the nineteen twelve club.

Speaker 3 (24:24):
Yeah, there you go, legacy, Yeah right, we just held
a big event, yeah, to handle it. Yeah.

Speaker 5 (24:31):
The LPGA goes team mode this week in South Korea,
the Hanua Life plus International Crown is back. So team
match play national squads but this year Lydia Co and
you know, Charlie Hull are joining forces as quote Team
World because there wasn't enough to create an entire team
for them. So pool play starts tomorrow.

Speaker 4 (24:52):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (24:53):
I saw that Harry would have that circle on.

Speaker 1 (24:56):
Well I'm not watching it because it's the time zone
difference is really it's tough to you know, to navigate that.
But the fact that Charlie Hall is on like a
team other than England, like England couldn't come up with
a team.

Speaker 4 (25:08):
That's that's mind blowing to me.

Speaker 5 (25:10):
And Team World is just like yeah, okay, yeah, yes,
not well, we were just talking about India. Tommy Fleetwood
on a little bit of a heater. He won the
deep he willed.

Speaker 4 (25:20):
India and Harry.

Speaker 5 (25:25):
Yeah that's all it was. You take a selfie with
Harry and it all works.

Speaker 4 (25:29):
Out, I'm telling you.

Speaker 5 (25:30):
But a couple of weeks ago, his son Frankie called
him out and said, Dad, I've never gotten to run
on the green after one of your wins. And Tommy
literally wrote it down. He was like wow, Like his
son said that to him, and he's like, you're right,
he hasn't and I really want to do that. So
he made it, Uh, he made it possible. He made
it come to life. So pretty cool. And then if

(25:52):
we just take a look at its last sixty days,
by the way, FedEx Cup champ eighteen point five million.

Speaker 4 (25:58):
First win on the PGA Tour.

Speaker 5 (25:59):
There that was ye eighteen five million in just PGA
Tour earnings, four and one Ryder Cup record, just career
stretch of his life.

Speaker 1 (26:08):
After this Ryder Cup win, he was, you know, might
have been the best player on the team.

Speaker 4 (26:16):
And now he wins again in India.

Speaker 1 (26:17):
It's his eighth time, eighth win on the DP World Tour,
his twelfth.

Speaker 4 (26:21):
Win as you know, in his career.

Speaker 1 (26:23):
And I got him a couple of like right after
right before I think he won the UH Tour Championship.
I took him in the US Open because he finished
runner up the last time at Shinnecock and I took
him in the Open Championship, which is played in his
hometown next year.

Speaker 3 (26:40):
Harry firing and that exactly right. I tell you what
like like you do not hear a bad word about
the guy either right now? You've ever heard is he
didn't win? And then it's like he just seems like
the most likable guy out there. Yeah, got beautiful hair. Harry.

Speaker 5 (26:59):
Speaking of another guy that you really have never heard
a bad word about, uh Saheitha Gala might be the
most universally liked guy on tour. I just loves Oh god,
he's like president president of the Saheath Fan Club. He's
so cute. I love his dad. But Saheath and Juju
Chan are now engaged, so congratulations to that. And guys,

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Speaker 3 (27:43):
I had mine on on that Monday. Unfortunately, I don't
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Speaker 5 (27:48):
We're passing it around at We just had to make
sure we were good.

Speaker 3 (27:52):
Yeah, we got to load that up on Harry. That
was tremendous. Now, usually when we do the course, of course,
I make it sponsored by buy my Balls. But I
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Sam Balloonfeld. We're a cool fifteen under wow in the
Outing top place prize. Not only that they get multiple

(28:37):
Max go's one foot two inches on thirteen to me the.

Speaker 1 (28:42):
Martin part two inches on that hole, yep, and then
uh and then Zach gets the long drive on fifteen
and we saw.

Speaker 3 (28:51):
Where that was. I remember if it was not right,
they go into the playoffs and uh, Max wins the
the the lev lane chip off. He'll be He'll be
donning a new Robini suit sometime soon. The coolest and
Zach in the pressure cooker of the long drive. I

(29:14):
love where we did the long drive this year. We
did up on ten surrounded by everybody on the back teas,
the top top teas and uh it went to the
second round. Tommy Eisenhower, Dom Mercury, Tim Tatt, Tim Tap
I think his name is was the other guy that
was in it. And the belt. Zach got it done

(29:37):
in blowing wind, got it done. He gets the championship belt.
Happy Gilmore signed Jersey. Those boys cleaned up. They needed
a U haul to take all their prizes out of
that tournament.

Speaker 1 (29:47):
Was the.

Speaker 3 (29:49):
Russ who was.

Speaker 5 (29:53):
He was guys. He was closing on his house his wife.

Speaker 3 (29:58):
Now interesting, you know let his team down.

Speaker 4 (30:01):
They were the same without him.

Speaker 3 (30:03):
You know who was in it was in second place
at fourteen under. You know who that team was?

Speaker 5 (30:08):
No, I guess I'll be that.

Speaker 3 (30:12):
Yeah, little team with the Brandon Matthews, Ryan Gaino, Kerry Fraser,
great carry Fraser.

Speaker 1 (30:18):
Who was teeing off from the senior teas and getting
major breaks, major Yeah, and they.

Speaker 5 (30:26):
The women's but didn't give our team major breaks.

Speaker 4 (30:29):
You did on eighteen?

Speaker 5 (30:31):
I did, yeah, d Dreino, that was I mean, you.

Speaker 4 (30:34):
Know drive we used to we needed that.

Speaker 3 (30:40):
Yeah, we did well? What were we fore under? Maybe
I think everything we're good? But I had a blast.
I had. I had such a great time playing with
you guys. That was awesome.

Speaker 4 (30:49):
Green Greene is awesome.

Speaker 3 (30:52):
Is the man, go with the flow human? Yeah, put
him in any setting.

Speaker 5 (31:00):
It's awesome. Brandon and I, I mean we didn't stop
talking about it the whole drive home, and then even
on the flight back we were talking about it and
he's like, you know, I've never been to an I mean,
he was smiling the whole time. I'm like, we got
to go. He's like, oh, we just stay a little
longer because he was watching like everything happened. But he's like,
it's so cool that, you know, it's not like, hey,
just this person won. It's like everyone almost gets a

(31:21):
shot at a prize, and it's like, you know, even
if you do win the long drive, we still get
to a watch who's the actual long drive champion? Like
see the pot off, like see the you know, the chipping.
He's like it was just so cool, so creative.

Speaker 4 (31:33):
And you were off I was.

Speaker 2 (31:38):
I joke.

Speaker 5 (31:40):
I hit it so like, I mean, what on eighteen
I drained like what was that.

Speaker 4 (31:44):
Like five feet?

Speaker 5 (31:47):
And then I.

Speaker 4 (31:49):
Break.

Speaker 3 (31:50):
Yeah, I don't know.

Speaker 5 (31:51):
How I made that. But then I got up there
and I was just like okay, and like people trying
to tell me where to aim, and I'm like, okay,
I made about myself the first time. I can do
it this second time. But obviously I could.

Speaker 3 (32:01):
But I'll tell you what what made it fun was
having our guy Buster from Q one to two, who
who was was on the putting green the whole time.
And then the great, the Great Mike Baldini who showed
up and just took the microphone and basically did about
an hour and a half two hours of straight insaw comic.

(32:21):
But what that did was it just created such an
atmosphere where everybody wanted to come out and watch all
the competition. In the past, you kind of would lose
people because you really didn't know what was going on.
I mean, the whole patio was packed just watching chipping
and was so cool.

Speaker 5 (32:36):
Yeah, because the crowd just moved. It was like okay,
like the potting, like the long drive, like the chip.

Speaker 3 (32:40):
It was awesome that like gear Hearts puts up. I mean,
it's an awesome prize. It's I may tag like brand
new washer and dryer. And to be able to chip.
We tried it right. To chip into that dryer and
get it to stay is hard.

Speaker 5 (32:52):
Man, because mostly in and out, like you know what
I mean, the first one you get two shots for
like the second one, and it's just like thinking, you're like, oh,
it's gotta stand.

Speaker 3 (33:01):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (33:01):
It was all smoking cigars, watching all that. Yeah, hand
rolled cigars.

Speaker 5 (33:06):
Yeah, and your fact great food and drink.

Speaker 3 (33:10):
Oh.

Speaker 5 (33:10):
Your DJ was on like that whole Oh yeah, he
was so good. He vibes so well with oh yeah,
who is your.

Speaker 3 (33:18):
Guy like Baldini and Bustler. Yeah, it was a three
man show. Yeah.

Speaker 5 (33:21):
Oh they just vibe so good. Everything was good because
he'd say one thing and then DJ play a song
to match it. I was like, you guys have done
this before.

Speaker 3 (33:28):
Yeah, I mean I could talk for an hour about
everything for the outing and there's so many people to
think that it's hard to But at the end of
the day we raised twelve thousand dollars over twelve thousand
dollars for the Magical Meala Foundation. So you know the
generosity of people like Tito's who Tito's The only reason
why they sponsored the outing is because of the Magical
Meal Foundation, because they don't donated the charity. They won't
sponsor anything unless there's a charitable element to it. So

(33:50):
kudos to that company and the way they do stuff.
They rolled that bar and there. It was awesome. FC
kurback with that hummer. I think it was nice, man.

Speaker 4 (33:55):
I was.

Speaker 3 (33:56):
I was checking that sucker out. It almost got hit
a couple of times. I almost got it.

Speaker 5 (33:59):
I was like, is gonna buy that?

Speaker 3 (34:01):
I almost got hit twice during the outing.

Speaker 4 (34:03):
We were on fifteen. They'd get hit.

Speaker 3 (34:05):
Right in the as so that was powers Oh he did.

Speaker 4 (34:10):
Yeah, Well he's a met fan.

Speaker 5 (34:12):
You know they target out.

Speaker 3 (34:13):
They know, yeah, they know the ball finds you, but
I'll find I mean, you know the Kidditt's room with
that lunchticker that that they roll out beforehand that I
don't even know play after after eating that. It's just terrific.
And you know, I could go on and on. I
don't want to. I don't want to miss anybody.

Speaker 5 (34:30):
But well, while you taking intermission, we can you know,
give a shout out from K. Harry and I are
giving you a shout out movies just for all of
your hard work, what you put together. I mean even
down to the signs on the T boxes. Oh, everything
looks so good. And every hole you got to you're like, okay,
there's a transfusion hole. Okay, I get a hogy on
this whole. Okay, like it's just man on eighteen.

Speaker 1 (34:53):
Oh man, the role, the role is good morning.

Speaker 5 (34:59):
I don't know, but yeah, most tremendous job. Appreciate all
of your hard work.

Speaker 1 (35:03):
And yeah, he was putting up all those signs when
I was getting a lesson, I was watching them.

Speaker 5 (35:07):
I stuff like that. I didn't even get to send
it to him, but I was like, he doesn't sleep.
The commitment and all the work you put in.

Speaker 1 (35:15):
Well, you didn't sleep before because he thought it was
gonna was gonna rain?

Speaker 3 (35:19):
Did I ever? Did I ever? Yeah? But you know,
a couple a couple of quick shout outs State Side
Live were always stepping up and taking over that putting
green for us Angelo's Pizzeria, which you know, the closest
to the pizza which is hilarious scene Franky from the
club driving out and and the Legacy Club Frankie John
DeMarco justin that whole crew, I mean they were, Yeah,

(35:41):
how funny was it? We put out the I'm putting
out the tea boxes and I put out the crooked
tea box, so I make it crooked on nine right,
the Legacy Club staff must have come out there like
the fixed it.

Speaker 4 (35:52):
That was on nine nine.

Speaker 5 (35:53):
Yeah, what hole was all access on trying to make
me do it? Shout at Jamison.

Speaker 3 (35:57):
That was on three no, no, back around seven was
it seven?

Speaker 1 (36:02):
Yeah?

Speaker 4 (36:02):
Yeah, the part the other part three shot.

Speaker 3 (36:07):
He thought Greenie won a trip to Ireland on that show.

Speaker 4 (36:09):
He got closed.

Speaker 5 (36:10):
His ballmark was like what like two inches the wrong way? Max.

Speaker 3 (36:17):
They said, you know, Max, he hit that. I said
one foot two inches, but they said that thing hit
at like three three inches almost one That tummer.

Speaker 4 (36:25):
That was the whole team.

Speaker 3 (36:27):
Yeah, yeah, oh that's a hard, whole tremendous, but thank
you to everyone. We'll be back bigger and better than ever.
I'll look for more ways to make this thing crazier.
I'll tell you about Mike Baldini being out there. He
was like you know he had that insult comic out
there in the beginning from Park six, you know.

Speaker 1 (36:42):
One on one some of the videos that I'm seeing
and I didn't get none of us got the insult.

Speaker 3 (36:50):
No, well, yeah, he insulted some other people. And man,
it was there were some people backing off the ball,
I'll tell you that much. Man. It was like a
Trilloquist he had because the puppet could say whatever.

Speaker 4 (37:00):
It wants right right.

Speaker 1 (37:03):
The puppet can be politically incorrect and it's say whatever.

Speaker 5 (37:07):
Well, when are we getting our sewing analysis email?

Speaker 3 (37:10):
Oh, they're coming, They're coming. Yeah. Aj Koslowski was out there,
and also I do want to, I do want to.
I know Brandon was smiling and had fun, but it
was so cool for him to be there, right, and
that had such a special element to have him there,
for him to take some time beforehand, and we need
to do it more organized. It was a little chaotic,
but to you know, to show some people some things

(37:32):
and just to play in the round, hanging out after
I'm interviewing. What do you the long the guys kept missing,
I'm like, Brandon, what do you see? He's like, I
see a lot of bad but him and obviously West Patterson,
who is the He's the he's what I want to
call him, mister No, he's the m v C. He's

(37:52):
the m VC most valuable complainer. He finds a way
to complain about pretty much everything. And I'll them, I
love them to death, but he'll find a way to
complain that. But all he wants to do is hang
and have fun. And I'm getting old, man, I can't
go out and hang with him after like I used to.
But somebody did. I heard he went to live Casino

(38:15):
with some folks, so he had a probably had a week.
West got in early. He played apple Brook on Saturday, okay,
and then we played Trout National, which I would love
to spend a moment talking about because I got that
invite late in the game. Did not know if I
was going to make that list. Played with Mike, who's

(38:39):
the head pro at the Ridge with Harry. We have
to get out to the Ridge. We have an open
invite ridge.

Speaker 4 (38:45):
I played there. That's unbelievable.

Speaker 3 (38:48):
Anytime we want to go unbelievable place, we should get
out there. Get to I didn't even know. Like you
get the Trout National, you go into a gravel parking lot.
They're still building the clubhouse, but then you go out
and the course is done and it is that. The
practice facility was awesome. Also, Brandon just tremendous with his

(39:09):
time with me on the range, like helping me during
the whole round where he could be talking to other people,
talking to me about things like helping me. Just can't
say enough about how great that was. And just the place.
I mean, this golf course. It took me like a
day and a half to like kind of process it.
It is massive. It is going to be considered a

(39:29):
top five golf course in the Northeast, maybe in the
country at some point. It's still when it's all built
out with the clubhouse, with the lodges, with the par
three course and everything else. Yeah, but it's like multiple
golf courses in one. There's times where it looks like
kind of like a Pinehurst feel to it. There's times
at like ten, eleven, twelve where it looks like Bayonne
with these high hills and everything cliffs, the green complexes

(39:53):
are nuts and it is massive. Harry, like the fairways
are just like you're like, hold crap, and it's yourself.

Speaker 5 (40:03):
On eighteen with the sunset in the back.

Speaker 4 (40:06):
I don't know.

Speaker 3 (40:06):
I need him to send me the one of of
Wes Patterson too, making fun of him climbing out of
the woods. But you know, I'm playing with these sasquatches, right,
and they're like, oh, they keep walking the tiger t's
not even like the back like the tiger ts right,
And I'm like, I don't want to hold him up
by like all right now, Jeff, let's walk up here
something like whatever. I'll just hit from here. It was

(40:26):
like seventy five hundred yards I think it was. But
I'll tell you what, like playing a full round with
Brandon in like you know he was he was playing
against those guys in like a competition too, so he
was like taking it seriously. It was one of the
coolest things experiences I've had just seeing him hit shots.
And you know all those guys that you know, Mike
from the Ridge obviously Wes gamer, but you know, seeing

(40:47):
Brandon up close, it's fun.

Speaker 5 (40:48):
To watch him hit like shape some shops, like.

Speaker 3 (40:50):
For real when he's trying to hit shots, or like Damndy, yeah, Windy.

Speaker 1 (40:56):
I played with him at Huntington Valley where he didn't
hit a.

Speaker 4 (40:58):
Lot of drivers. He's hitting three arms off the tea,
but at that place he was hitting drive late. He's
hitting driver.

Speaker 3 (41:04):
I would love to the caddies faces. It was. They
were just like they were looking like they and I'm
looking I'm like.

Speaker 1 (41:14):
Yeah, well, I had Wes about it, uh after, you know,
towards the end of the night, before I left on Monday,
I said, how did it rank? He said, it's top
three in my experience that I've played. He's played a
lot of great places he has.

Speaker 3 (41:28):
Yeah, glad I got to I got to the merch
shop for that. It wasn't a full merch shop. It
was a pop up, so I couldn't go crazy, but
I had to get.

Speaker 5 (41:36):
I was trying to dissect the logo. I was like,
because I know it's like a baseball but at first
I thought it was like, yeah, that's it looks like
a golf tea and then tea for trout, and then yeah,
I think it's kind of cool.

Speaker 3 (41:48):
I think it's well, it grows on me too.

Speaker 1 (41:49):
I heard you were getting ripped by Wes who showed
up the stuff. And then he shows up in all the.

Speaker 3 (41:56):
Hot looks like he works in the clubhouse. He shows up.
He's bringing stones and he walks in like he's Mike Trout.
It's unbelievable. I hate to do it to the guy,
but all right, enough about me and enough about that.
But great playing with you guys. And there, oh, Harry.

(42:18):
I was surprised to learn that there was a GOLPS
one this weekend because I was stuck. I was in
our mode. But there certainly is hair. There is the
Bank of Utah.

Speaker 1 (42:27):
Yeah, we're calling it Utah Championship.

Speaker 3 (42:32):
Championship, yeah yeah.

Speaker 4 (42:34):
And Ivans Utah. They were out here last year.

Speaker 1 (42:37):
Matt McCarty got his first PGA Tour win at this
event at the Black Desert Resort, which is designed by
Tom Weiscoff, the late Great Tom weis cough par seventy
one seventy four hundred and twenty one yards, The average
green moose seven thousand square feet.

Speaker 3 (42:54):
Oh what.

Speaker 1 (42:55):
I love that bent grass greens. They're gonna roll at
about twelve on the stimpmeter. Fairways and approaches are bent
grass as well, but the rough is Kentucky bluegrass. But
it's only two inches in length, so not a huge deal.
It's going to be a putting contest. Forty four sand bunkers,
three water hazards only in play on two of the holes,
and the.

Speaker 4 (43:14):
Average fairway is with is about thirty yards, so.

Speaker 1 (43:18):
It's it's really out of an old lava field in
you so you can see some of the you know
the picture behind me.

Speaker 4 (43:24):
The scenery is gorgeous. Three par fives seven, nine, and eighteen.
Four par threes three, eight, fifteen, and seventeen.

Speaker 1 (43:32):
Couple of short par fours, which is indicative of Tom Weiscoffe.

Speaker 4 (43:35):
He loves the driveable par four.

Speaker 1 (43:37):
There's one at four and fourteen, but then there's four
really long par fours at greater than five hundred yards one, eleven, thirteen,
and sixteen. A lot of variety, really cool scenery and
a pretty good field.

Speaker 4 (43:50):
So I'm actually gonna watch some of this during football.

Speaker 1 (43:53):
We don't pay much attention to these as much attention
to these events as we do during football season, but
this one will get some of my attention.

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Speaker 3 (45:00):
Alright, well, let's you got a little c the line
with our friends at bet Park's. You got anybody that
you're looking at here?

Speaker 4 (45:04):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (45:05):
Actually, Alex Norin is playing terrific golf. He's got two
wins on the DP World Tour in twenty twenty five.
He's got thirteen international wins to his credit. Nothing on
the PGA Tour yet, but he's playing great. He won
that BMWPGA Championship over in England not too long ago,
in a real tough.

Speaker 4 (45:25):
Field and a real tough golf course.

Speaker 1 (45:27):
I'm gonna take him at plus one ninety in a
top ten for sure, maybe even take him to win.
Mad mcneely's the favorite in most books now. He's twenty
first in strokes gain putting. You gotta be able to
putt to win here. It's gonna be a low number
plus one sixty.

Speaker 4 (45:44):
To top ten.

Speaker 1 (45:44):
And Taylor Montgomery another really good putter, he's second in
strokes gain putting.

Speaker 4 (45:49):
I'll take him.

Speaker 1 (45:50):
He's a long shot to me to win at plus
sixty five hundred and in a top ten at plus
five hundred.

Speaker 4 (45:58):
All right, I'm.

Speaker 3 (45:58):
Riding with your place. Then I didn't get a chance
to dissect it.

Speaker 1 (46:02):
But yeah, but I mean a lot's happened since we
last really, you know, talking a lot of events, a
lot of guys.

Speaker 4 (46:08):
We had. Stephen Fisk got.

Speaker 1 (46:10):
His first PGA Tour win down at the Sanderson Farms
in Mississippi.

Speaker 4 (46:15):
We got Robert McIntyre.

Speaker 3 (46:18):
In the century Sorry.

Speaker 4 (46:20):
Sorry, yeah.

Speaker 1 (46:22):
Xander Schawfle got back on the winning trail that does
the Old Zozo the Bay Current Classic over in Japan,
it's his tenth win on the PGA Tour, his first
since the Open back in July of twenty twenty four.

Speaker 3 (46:36):
Flew under the radar. It did a little bit right, I.

Speaker 1 (46:39):
Think because of the time change and because football dominates. Yeah,
but Marco Penge won on the Spanish Open, defeated Dan Brown.
John Rahm finished t nine. John Rahm it's his first
year without a win since twenty six teen.

Speaker 5 (46:54):
Wow.

Speaker 4 (46:56):
And his next event is in four months.

Speaker 3 (46:58):
He's going to be doing a live in Riod. That's it.

Speaker 1 (47:01):
So John ram is disappearing from the landscape of golf
thanks to his taking the check at Live. And then
you had that India Open that Danielle told you about
with Fleetwood, and that was a field with McElroy Hoveland,
our buddy Ben Griffin, Shane Lowry was in there, Brian Harmon.

Speaker 4 (47:18):
It's a pretty good field.

Speaker 3 (47:20):
Yeah, so absolutely yep, all right, great stuff. Thank you
to Nico, awesome Dan, great tea, great stories in there,
a lot of fun again last playing with you guys.
Thank you guys for all the support being out there
helping out and getting the people excited and great to

(47:40):
talk to. We talked to Jordan from my kind of
candy for a little bit, which is cool. Talk to
young Michael Tallereda. Always good to check in on young Towels.

Speaker 4 (47:46):
He keeps getting bigger. Yeah, he is a big dude.

Speaker 3 (47:49):
Man, he is man. I can't wait to go see
him play Hamilton baseball. We're gonna get up there and
see him in the spring. Yeah, he mashes the ball.
It's fun to watch.

Speaker 4 (47:57):
That's cool.

Speaker 3 (47:58):
I know he wanted to win one of those long
erves too. He probably he probably was going for it too.

Speaker 1 (48:03):
And shout out to Steve Seraki for helping me uh
on the tea and keeping me from having to set
up with moves.

Speaker 3 (48:13):
Great work out of both of you. He was dying
laughing too. But when I came over, Yeah I got it, hair,
I don't he snapped the.

Speaker 4 (48:19):
Last sure too, I think right, Yeah.

Speaker 3 (48:21):
Yeah, I love it all right, guys, we will be
back next week. Thanks for listening, Thanks for watching.

Speaker 2 (48:29):
Yeah, but listen, swing it and ding it.
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Current and classic episodes, featuring compelling true-crime mysteries, powerful documentaries and in-depth investigations. Follow now to get the latest episodes of Dateline NBC completely free, or subscribe to Dateline Premium for ad-free listening and exclusive bonus content: DatelinePremium.com

Are You A Charlotte?

Are You A Charlotte?

In 1997, actress Kristin Davis’ life was forever changed when she took on the role of Charlotte York in Sex and the City. As we watched Carrie, Samantha, Miranda and Charlotte navigate relationships in NYC, the show helped push once unacceptable conversation topics out of the shadows and altered the narrative around women and sex. We all saw ourselves in them as they searched for fulfillment in life, sex and friendships. Now, Kristin Davis wants to connect with you, the fans, and share untold stories and all the behind the scenes. Together, with Kristin and special guests, what will begin with Sex and the City will evolve into talks about themes that are still so relevant today. "Are you a Charlotte?" is much more than just rewatching this beloved show, it brings the past and the present together as we talk with heart, humor and of course some optimism.

Stuff You Should Know

Stuff You Should Know

If you've ever wanted to know about champagne, satanism, the Stonewall Uprising, chaos theory, LSD, El Nino, true crime and Rosa Parks, then look no further. Josh and Chuck have you covered.

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