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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Kevin Carston is just one of those great people that
you get to know around the track because if you're
a neophyte or you're just someone that just doesn't get
horse racing, he gets it and then he delivers and
then you understand it all over again. Kevin, how are you.
It's good, great, It's always great to see you. And
(00:20):
I appreciate you spending some time here because I know
you guys are working yourselves crazy, like our boss Gus
Allen here.
Speaker 2 (00:26):
Yeah, Gus is like running around. He isn't good good
spirits this morning.
Speaker 1 (00:30):
I think over there he knows how to fake it
till you make it. I mean, you know we all
do right. I do too. It's absolutely you got to
put on a smile and then you know this time
of year, you know, I've talked to the folks with
you know, Katie f Kentucky Derby Festival and stuff like that.
It's just, you know, this is what it is. I
think that Bob Bafford indicated, if not outright, said either
(00:52):
this weekend or last week, that the Kentucky Derby has
actually kept horse racing alive.
Speaker 2 (00:59):
I actually believe that it's the race that everybody in
the world wants to win. You're getting, you know, just
from the interest now we're getting in Japan for the
Kentucky Derby. In the Middle East, there's just so many
people that want to come over here and win the
Kentucky Derby. We have one of Australia's leading trainers of
all time, Gay Waterhouses, coming over here to experience the Derby,
(01:20):
has all sorts of experienced packages with her. So you're
even getting interest done in Australia for the Kentucky Derby.
It is the race and horse racing that everybody wants
to win.
Speaker 1 (01:27):
The other part of it is and I think that
it's been brilliant by the management and the you know,
the presidents and on and on and on, starting with
probably Tom Meeker is we're going to make this not
only a racing event, but we're going to make this
a fashion show. You know. The Red carpet has gotten
better and better, you know, every year, and you guys
(01:49):
have really thought, you know, of knowing how to showcase
and being an entertaining entertainment venue, which you gotta do.
You have to.
Speaker 2 (01:57):
We're the it's the world stage for horse racing and
this is our week and it's you know, a bucket
list event for so many people. It's not just people
that are horse racing enthusiasts, it's people from all walks
of life will be here on Kentucky Derby Day. From
you know, you think of the people that will be
in the infield to you know, the mansion. It's just
every walk of life will be here on Kentucky Derby
(02:19):
Day and there's something for everybody. And this week too,
it's just just very special week here for us in Kentucky,
and it's we're ready to be on the world stage.
Speaker 1 (02:27):
So we've had the field change over the last you know,
a few days. What any any changes that change your
mind about who you like in the top four?
Speaker 2 (02:39):
You know, Tony, It's it's interesting with this race this
year because I think both with the Derby and the Oaks,
it's a little bit top heavy, meeting the favorites for
both the Derby and the Oaks sort of stand out
a little bit. But there are several horses in the
Derby that, you know, if you don't like Journalism, you
can make cases for that could win this race if Journalism,
say gets a troubled trip or he you know, doesn't
(03:01):
run to his a race. The horses that are ready
to run their a race, there's eight or nine of them.
In some years you might get three or four. And
so I think that's what makes this makes this Derby
so dynamic. In my eyes, it's still journalism's race to lose.
But there are a number of horses that I've seen
in the mornings that, oh, man, this horse looks good,
this horse looks good, this horse looks good.
Speaker 1 (03:21):
Yeah, And that happens all the time. And then you
don't know really what the trainer's trying to get out
of it. Maybe if they row, you know, run five furlongs,
but they you know, kind of take it easy on them,
or whatever the case may be. You know, who knows,
you know, I don't. I don't know the imaginations like
these trainers do. But McCarthy coming in here with journalism,
(03:42):
why do you like him so much? It's just he's figures.
Speaker 2 (03:47):
It's it's a little bit of speed figures, but it's
a little bit of looks. He just skips over this
racetrack and he just has a different aura about him
in my eyes, compared to the rest of the nineteen
horses in this field that I've seen train over this racetrack.
He just skips over this racetrack, just has the looks
of a horse that's ready to run his best effort.
He maybe didn't run his best effort in the Santanina
Derby into this race, I think he's ready to run
(04:09):
his top effort and he just looks like he's sitting
on a big race.
Speaker 1 (04:12):
Are the big works pretty much done now? And now
it's just like training the horses over in the paddock
and those kind of things.
Speaker 2 (04:19):
For the most part, there are a couple of horses
this morning that will have their final major workouts and
they're just like athletes training for a big race. So
sometimes you'll have, for the most part in horse racing,
their major works are about seven days out from a race.
Some trainers have a little bit different mindset, like this morning,
Cole Battle will have his last major work and he's
not doing a whole lot, but his trainer said, I
(04:40):
just want to get his edge off of him a
little bit, And that's what you're kind of seeing from
the couple of trainers that will have these horses having
published workouts this morning. They just want to get the
edge off their horse and just make sure that they're
not over the top going into the Kentucky Derby.
Speaker 1 (04:53):
So Baffort's back. A lot of people have said that
he's Ciria component with the Kentucky Derby. We still had
the Derby without him. We had great derbies. But you know,
personalities do count. But I like all the personalities. I
like the first timers, you know, all of those kind
(05:16):
of different place. It's still great to see though, Bill Mott,
you know, out training horses and things like that. You know,
as I'm getting ready to retire, I don't get to
go to the shed either.
Speaker 2 (05:28):
You don't want to be like eighty nine year old
Wayne Lucas that's sitting on his pony. This guy man unbelievable, right, Yeah,
eighty nine years old and he's sitting on his pony
in the morning, still as good as ever.
Speaker 1 (05:40):
So American promise was he out earlier because there was
one with a with a yellow cloth? Was that it
was that Wayne? Because he was d Wayne was always
like the guy that would you know, have the five
o'clock works. It's a little bit interesting.
Speaker 2 (05:52):
He's been sending the source out a little bit later
in the morning, so maybe he's wanting to see him
in sunlight because he sort of glistens in the sunlight
a little bit, just the color of this this horse.
So yeah, Wayne is great to be in the Derby.
You mentioned personalities. Bill Mott, he's in top form and
Bobby's you know, has the right mindset. We're just looking
forward from the past few years and so he's looking
forward to the future. And there's so many new personalities
(06:15):
in the Derby this year. You got Lonnie Briley, a
seventy two year old from Louisiana who's never had a
horse of this cattle border in coal battle. Thirty two
year old Ethan West. This horse chunk of gold cost
twenty five hundred dollars at auction. We could have probably
pulled the money in this room and got Scott Fitzgerald
to buy and then bought this horse for the Derby.
And Ethan's on the biggest stage. So it's just great.
(06:36):
A great Derby shaping up with all these different personalities
coming in.
Speaker 1 (06:39):
For well, since you brought up Scotty and that are
you are you engaged in any of that kind of
getting getting with Sony syndicates.
Speaker 2 (06:46):
Ye, you know, my dad is there's a little clause
in the employee rule book here at Churchill Downs. That
so you have to get permission to own a horse.
But my dad owns a horse. He's bracing on Wednesday
there every week.
Speaker 1 (07:00):
B d.
Speaker 2 (07:01):
Veleski trainer Greg Foley, So keep an eye. He was right,
seventeen hundred dollars purchase Tony. He's made more than two
hundred thousand dollars.
Speaker 1 (07:08):
Oh my gosh, Daddy done good. It's we only on
a tiny, tiny piece. How I just named a horse.
Daddy done good, Daddy done good. I like that. Daddy
done good. You're welcome and I get ten percent?
Speaker 2 (07:19):
Yeah, no problem, all right, you're gonna buy him first
and then we'll no get in that.
Speaker 1 (07:25):
No, I think it'd be fun to be a part
of the syndicate, like a very very large sndicate where yeah,
you'll throw him my ten bucks a month or something
in to see how that works. You all had that
going for What does Churchill Down still kind of sponsor
things like that? We have you put that together.
Speaker 2 (07:39):
We have one horse left in the Churchill Downs Racing
Club named Silver Halo, who's trained by Greg Foley. And
the program was great because I mean there's hundreds of
owners that came out of that syndicate program that was
just sort of a club and now they are owners
on their own and it's just great. Got their their
their feet wet in the industry and just the levels
(08:00):
for every one of this this game. You don't have
to you know, have a million dollar purchases. You can
you know, get your feet wet for a few hundred bucks.
Speaker 1 (08:07):
Yeah, it's your own way of I guess, you know,
playing some kind of other other game or something of
that nature. I think it'd be cool for for the
connections to to when those kind of things and we've
seen it happen, you.
Speaker 2 (08:19):
Know before, you know, rich strike if anything.
Speaker 1 (08:22):
Absolutely? Is that right? Yeah, that's right. Thanks for coming
up with the name, because I knew there was some
somewhere just in the recent past. Great. See Kevin. I
hope you can join us again this week.
Speaker 2 (08:33):
Yeah. I think Scott booked me a lot this week.
So he's a smart guy. Yeah, he's on me. So
I'll be in here hiding in this office all right.
Speaker 1 (08:40):
The pride of Bellarman University, that is Kevin Kirsty, who
joined us this morning here on news radio eight forty
w HS. What your Twitter handle x handle.
Speaker 2 (08:49):
At horse Racing kk oh.
Speaker 1 (08:51):
Horse Racing kk. I mean, I just see Kevin Kirsty,
So that's what I just go with. All Right, there
you have it right here on news radio eight forty
WHS Scotty coming up in just a few We've got
more from the backside of Churchill downs on news Radio
eight forty w h A s.
Kevin Carston is just one of those great people that
you get to know around the track because if you're
a neophyte or you're just someone that just doesn't get
horse racing, he gets it and then he delivers and
then you understand it all over again. Kevin, how are you.
It's good, great, It's always great to see you. And
(00:20):
I appreciate you spending some time here because I know
you guys are working yourselves crazy, like our boss Gus
Allen here.
Speaker 2 (00:26):
Yeah, Gus is like running around. He isn't good good
spirits this morning.
Speaker 1 (00:30):
I think over there he knows how to fake it
till you make it. I mean, you know we all
do right. I do too. It's absolutely you got to
put on a smile and then you know this time
of year, you know, I've talked to the folks with
you know, Katie f Kentucky Derby Festival and stuff like that.
It's just, you know, this is what it is. I
think that Bob Bafford indicated, if not outright, said either
(00:52):
this weekend or last week, that the Kentucky Derby has
actually kept horse racing alive.
Speaker 2 (00:59):
I actually believe that it's the race that everybody in
the world wants to win. You're getting, you know, just
from the interest now we're getting in Japan for the
Kentucky Derby. In the Middle East, there's just so many
people that want to come over here and win the
Kentucky Derby. We have one of Australia's leading trainers of
all time, Gay Waterhouses, coming over here to experience the Derby,
(01:20):
has all sorts of experienced packages with her. So you're
even getting interest done in Australia for the Kentucky Derby.
It is the race and horse racing that everybody wants
to win.
Speaker 1 (01:27):
The other part of it is and I think that
it's been brilliant by the management and the you know,
the presidents and on and on and on, starting with
probably Tom Meeker is we're going to make this not
only a racing event, but we're going to make this
a fashion show. You know. The Red carpet has gotten
better and better, you know, every year, and you guys
(01:49):
have really thought, you know, of knowing how to showcase
and being an entertaining entertainment venue, which you gotta do.
You have to.
Speaker 2 (01:57):
We're the it's the world stage for horse racing and
this is our week and it's you know, a bucket
list event for so many people. It's not just people
that are horse racing enthusiasts, it's people from all walks
of life will be here on Kentucky Derby Day. From
you know, you think of the people that will be
in the infield to you know, the mansion. It's just
every walk of life will be here on Kentucky Derby
(02:19):
Day and there's something for everybody. And this week too,
it's just just very special week here for us in Kentucky,
and it's we're ready to be on the world stage.
Speaker 1 (02:27):
So we've had the field change over the last you know,
a few days. What any any changes that change your
mind about who you like in the top four?
Speaker 2 (02:39):
You know, Tony, It's it's interesting with this race this
year because I think both with the Derby and the Oaks,
it's a little bit top heavy, meeting the favorites for
both the Derby and the Oaks sort of stand out
a little bit. But there are several horses in the
Derby that, you know, if you don't like Journalism, you
can make cases for that could win this race if Journalism,
say gets a troubled trip or he you know, doesn't
(03:01):
run to his a race. The horses that are ready
to run their a race, there's eight or nine of them.
In some years you might get three or four. And
so I think that's what makes this makes this Derby
so dynamic. In my eyes, it's still journalism's race to lose.
But there are a number of horses that I've seen
in the mornings that, oh, man, this horse looks good,
this horse looks good, this horse looks good.
Speaker 1 (03:21):
Yeah, And that happens all the time. And then you
don't know really what the trainer's trying to get out
of it. Maybe if they row, you know, run five furlongs,
but they you know, kind of take it easy on them,
or whatever the case may be. You know, who knows,
you know, I don't. I don't know the imaginations like
these trainers do. But McCarthy coming in here with journalism,
(03:42):
why do you like him so much? It's just he's figures.
Speaker 2 (03:47):
It's it's a little bit of speed figures, but it's
a little bit of looks. He just skips over this
racetrack and he just has a different aura about him
in my eyes, compared to the rest of the nineteen
horses in this field that I've seen train over this racetrack.
He just skips over this racetrack, just has the looks
of a horse that's ready to run his best effort.
He maybe didn't run his best effort in the Santanina
Derby into this race, I think he's ready to run
(04:09):
his top effort and he just looks like he's sitting
on a big race.
Speaker 1 (04:12):
Are the big works pretty much done now? And now
it's just like training the horses over in the paddock
and those kind of things.
Speaker 2 (04:19):
For the most part, there are a couple of horses
this morning that will have their final major workouts and
they're just like athletes training for a big race. So
sometimes you'll have, for the most part in horse racing,
their major works are about seven days out from a race.
Some trainers have a little bit different mindset, like this morning,
Cole Battle will have his last major work and he's
not doing a whole lot, but his trainer said, I
(04:40):
just want to get his edge off of him a
little bit, And that's what you're kind of seeing from
the couple of trainers that will have these horses having
published workouts this morning. They just want to get the
edge off their horse and just make sure that they're
not over the top going into the Kentucky Derby.
Speaker 1 (04:53):
So Baffort's back. A lot of people have said that
he's Ciria component with the Kentucky Derby. We still had
the Derby without him. We had great derbies. But you know,
personalities do count. But I like all the personalities. I
like the first timers, you know, all of those kind
(05:16):
of different place. It's still great to see though, Bill Mott,
you know, out training horses and things like that. You know,
as I'm getting ready to retire, I don't get to
go to the shed either.
Speaker 2 (05:28):
You don't want to be like eighty nine year old
Wayne Lucas that's sitting on his pony. This guy man unbelievable, right, Yeah,
eighty nine years old and he's sitting on his pony
in the morning, still as good as ever.
Speaker 1 (05:40):
So American promise was he out earlier because there was
one with a with a yellow cloth? Was that it
was that Wayne? Because he was d Wayne was always
like the guy that would you know, have the five
o'clock works. It's a little bit interesting.
Speaker 2 (05:52):
He's been sending the source out a little bit later
in the morning, so maybe he's wanting to see him
in sunlight because he sort of glistens in the sunlight
a little bit, just the color of this this horse.
So yeah, Wayne is great to be in the Derby.
You mentioned personalities. Bill Mott, he's in top form and
Bobby's you know, has the right mindset. We're just looking
forward from the past few years and so he's looking
forward to the future. And there's so many new personalities
(06:15):
in the Derby this year. You got Lonnie Briley, a
seventy two year old from Louisiana who's never had a
horse of this cattle border in coal battle. Thirty two
year old Ethan West. This horse chunk of gold cost
twenty five hundred dollars at auction. We could have probably
pulled the money in this room and got Scott Fitzgerald
to buy and then bought this horse for the Derby.
And Ethan's on the biggest stage. So it's just great.
(06:36):
A great Derby shaping up with all these different personalities
coming in.
Speaker 1 (06:39):
For well, since you brought up Scotty and that are
you are you engaged in any of that kind of
getting getting with Sony syndicates.
Speaker 2 (06:46):
Ye, you know, my dad is there's a little clause
in the employee rule book here at Churchill Downs. That
so you have to get permission to own a horse.
But my dad owns a horse. He's bracing on Wednesday
there every week.
Speaker 1 (07:00):
B d.
Speaker 2 (07:01):
Veleski trainer Greg Foley, So keep an eye. He was right,
seventeen hundred dollars purchase Tony. He's made more than two
hundred thousand dollars.
Speaker 1 (07:08):
Oh my gosh, Daddy done good. It's we only on
a tiny, tiny piece. How I just named a horse.
Daddy done good, Daddy done good. I like that. Daddy
done good. You're welcome and I get ten percent?
Speaker 2 (07:19):
Yeah, no problem, all right, you're gonna buy him first
and then we'll no get in that.
Speaker 1 (07:25):
No, I think it'd be fun to be a part
of the syndicate, like a very very large sndicate where yeah,
you'll throw him my ten bucks a month or something
in to see how that works. You all had that
going for What does Churchill Down still kind of sponsor
things like that? We have you put that together.
Speaker 2 (07:39):
We have one horse left in the Churchill Downs Racing
Club named Silver Halo, who's trained by Greg Foley. And
the program was great because I mean there's hundreds of
owners that came out of that syndicate program that was
just sort of a club and now they are owners
on their own and it's just great. Got their their
their feet wet in the industry and just the levels
(08:00):
for every one of this this game. You don't have
to you know, have a million dollar purchases. You can
you know, get your feet wet for a few hundred bucks.
Speaker 1 (08:07):
Yeah, it's your own way of I guess, you know,
playing some kind of other other game or something of
that nature. I think it'd be cool for for the
connections to to when those kind of things and we've
seen it happen, you.
Speaker 2 (08:19):
Know before, you know, rich strike if anything.
Speaker 1 (08:22):
Absolutely? Is that right? Yeah, that's right. Thanks for coming
up with the name, because I knew there was some
somewhere just in the recent past. Great. See Kevin. I
hope you can join us again this week.
Speaker 2 (08:33):
Yeah. I think Scott booked me a lot this week.
So he's a smart guy. Yeah, he's on me. So
I'll be in here hiding in this office all right.
Speaker 1 (08:40):
The pride of Bellarman University, that is Kevin Kirsty, who
joined us this morning here on news radio eight forty
w HS. What your Twitter handle x handle.
Speaker 2 (08:49):
At horse Racing kk oh.
Speaker 1 (08:51):
Horse Racing kk. I mean, I just see Kevin Kirsty,
So that's what I just go with. All Right, there
you have it right here on news radio eight forty
WHS Scotty coming up in just a few We've got
more from the backside of Churchill downs on news Radio
eight forty w h A s.
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