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August 23, 2024 38 mins

Ben Maller is breathing a sigh of relief! Benny Vs. the Penny is not only back for a 2nd season, but will stream on Peacock! Ben's TV partner Tomm Looney joins him to gauge their surprise & share behind-the-scenes stories.

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Kabooms.

Speaker 2 (00:02):
If you thought four hours a day, twelve hundred minutes
a week was enough, think again. He's the last remnants
of the old republic, a sol fashion of fairness. He
treats crackheads in the ghetto cutter the same as the
rich pill poppers in the penthouse.

Speaker 3 (00:18):
Wow.

Speaker 2 (00:18):
The Clearinghouse of Hot takes break free for something special.
The Fifth Hour with Ben Mallard starts right now in.

Speaker 4 (00:29):
The air Everneware The Fifth Hour with Me, Big Ben
and Danny g Radio. A Happy Friday to you as
we kick off the weekend on this the twenty third
day of August. Happy Find your inter Nerd Day today,
big day for a lot of baseball executives who have
found their inner nerd and are destroying baseball on a

(00:53):
day by day basis. It's also National sponge Cake Day today,
It's Cheap Flight Day today, and more importantly, it is
a big Sigh of Relief Day today. Why we had
the announcement last night on the terrestrial radio show this podcast.
Think of it as a companion of the Big News.

(01:14):
If you missed it, bad job by you don't worry.
I got youa The news is now out. It's back
double your pleasure, Double your fun. The only thing more
shocking than having NBC tell me that they wanted me

(01:35):
to do a TV show last year is that they
called me up and said, hey, let's run it back
and do it again. Because NBC has picked up season
two of Benny Versus the Penny. Now, there's a couple
of reasons for this. I would say the most important
is you actually watched the show, and that the base

(01:55):
of this audience, which is you and those that are
p ones and loyal supports. Law millions of the Overnight
Show have followed me and wherever I end up, you
guys have been great, and so that's really the backbone.
So it's not anything that I've done, it's your guys
supporting the show. And this is not some kind of
April Fool's Day joke. In August, they've given me the

(02:17):
green light.

Speaker 1 (02:18):
This had been in.

Speaker 4 (02:18):
Bargoed for a while. I was told not to talk
about it. They wanted me to wait until we got
closer to the start of the show. We had our
maiden voyage in twenty twenty three. It was neck and
neck between myself and The Penny, handicapping every game.

Speaker 1 (02:34):
And now it's time for the sequel.

Speaker 4 (02:36):
I'm so excited to finally be able to talk to
you about this. Everything had been put on time out
the gag order, and I finally got the green light
from the network and the handcuffs have been removed and
we're ready to go. The show is actually going to
be bigger than it was last year, and we'll talk

(02:57):
more about it as we go through the podcast, but
no longer just on regional cable television. In addition to
that part of the puzzle, which is the base, the
show is produced out of NBC in Boston, but we
are going national. Benny Versus the Penny is going to
be a national television show. You'll be able to watch
this anywhere, any place. So many of you complained last year.

(03:20):
I live in the boondocks. I can't get an NBC
cable affiliate, but I want to watch Benny Versus the Penny. Well,
they heard you, and I complained, and you complained, and
we all complained, and I'm happy to let you know
that Benny Versus the Penny will be streaming. Every episode
will be available on Peacock, So there's no reason to

(03:41):
miss an episode of Benny Versus the Penny, and we're
going to need your help, much like this podcast. We've
deputized you over the years here to have your friends
and kids and grandkids and cousins and god children.

Speaker 1 (03:57):
And anyone's in your circle.

Speaker 4 (04:00):
One's got a circle, right, takes the village to support
what we do here, and so there's an easy way
to do it. So many people have Peacock. It's not
very expensive at all. In fact, there's a free version,
I think, but the pay version is not not much
at all, and so people have it and we get
credit when people watch Benny versus Penny. I don't even

(04:20):
know how all that works, but I know if you're watching,
they know exactly who's watching, they know how many people
are watching. So a lot of you did grumble about that,
and now you're gonna be able to have a flipping
good time and be part of this show as we
go all the way through the NFL regular season and
through the super Bowl, we were qualifying for the playoffs,

(04:41):
and it's it's just gonna be a ton of fun.
It's just gonna be absolutely great. I'm so excited that
this is happening. And the reason I was back in
Boston was because of the TV show, and you know,
I didn't want to say anything. I was told not
to as I said, not to say anything, but now
I can. And we were trying to get Pat Sajak
to come out of retirement and represent the Penny.

Speaker 1 (05:03):
He rejected this, so we went back.

Speaker 4 (05:06):
To Tom Looney and Looney joins us.

Speaker 1 (05:10):
Right now.

Speaker 4 (05:10):
He's right over there, he's putting his makeup on, and
it just came out from suntanning and we welcome in
the Voice of the Penny for season two of Benny
Versus the Penny and Tom Looney welcome. What is your
reaction to Looney to Benny Versus the Penny returning for
another season on television.

Speaker 3 (05:33):
Well, no, I'm not all that shocked. But if you remember,
if you go back on the hot Tub time machine,
when you and I worked together in the late nineties
at Extra Sports eleven fifty in Los Angeles, don the
hall from Rick D's and Ricky Martin walking down the hallways,
that's true. I came up with you. I remember at
the time I was negotiating a TV deal with Canada,
the cb C, I believe it was, and it was

(05:56):
going to be an NFL show. Looney Versus the Loon
told you all about my idea, and then, uh, you know,
then fast forward and you're doing Veny Versus De Penny
on the radio. It's a big hit. I loved the
idea and the concept, and now it's a TV show.
So I'm not so surprised that my original idea is
now a televison.

Speaker 4 (06:14):
That's funny because I was in Vermont, uh when we
were we're in Boston, and Arnie said that I stole
the bit from him. It was Arnie versus the Shekel,
and it.

Speaker 1 (06:24):
Was very excited. He was annoyed that I took his bit,
and he's like, well, I should be the one on NBC.
You shouldn't be the one on NBC. What's up with that?

Speaker 4 (06:33):
Uh?

Speaker 3 (06:34):
But to me, there are broadky. You and I both
know that there are broadcasters we know that aren't satisfied
with their really cool jobs. Arnie's always been one of them.
He's never stopped working. They're not satisfied with their really
cool jobs. They look at the other shiny object jobs.

Speaker 1 (06:47):
I should be doing that that. Oh yeah, I mean
most people that do these jobs. I don't know what
you got that job on it? How funny than you.

Speaker 3 (06:57):
I mean, oh man, I want.

Speaker 4 (07:00):
To feel like a king of the world. Okay, if
you want to feel like you're the most important person
in the world, travel all the way to Burlington, Vermont
and visit Arnie. No One no One Looney comes and
visits my guy Arnie out in the boondocks. He's like
an hour from Montreal, in the middle of nowhere, surrounded

(07:22):
by trees, and it's like a resort town where like
really rich people go and hang out. And I drove
up there, and we drove up in the tail remnants
of that storm that was passing through while we were there,
the tropical depression, and we drove that.

Speaker 3 (07:36):
Was Debbie, Yeah, the Debbie Downer hurricane. Yeah, and she.

Speaker 1 (07:40):
Did drop down a lot of a lot of water.

Speaker 4 (07:42):
But we drove in the night, got there, Arnie picks
us up at the We told the story last week
on the podcast, but Arnie picked me and my wife
up at the hotel. We then got the VIP tour.
We did everything there is to do in Burlington, Vermont
in four hours, and then got back there and headed
back down to Boston. But we should tell the full story.

(08:04):
I feel so relieved Looney, I'm so happy to do
this podcast. I talked about this last night on The
Overnight Show, but this thing has been embargoed, And unlike
other people that I will not name, whose initials may
be TL, I did not tell a single person that
this was in the media anyway that this was happening.

(08:25):
It's been in the works for a couple of months,
but we were told, and you actually were the one
that said, Hey, you want to check with the network
to make sure everything's okay. So I contacted our guy
John and he's like, hey, I want you to hold
off on.

Speaker 1 (08:36):
This, just wait until we get a little closer. Don't
announce anything.

Speaker 4 (08:40):
So it was killing me, Looney, But I feel like
a giant weight has been lifted that I am now
able to discuss this publicly the TV show, which is
kind of good because it starts next week.

Speaker 3 (08:51):
Oh yeah, very exciting learning our affiliates up and down
the line. Right now, we're going to go a little
bit over because we're talking about ourselves. But Betty Versus
the Penny season two, and we're gonna we're gonna start
before and Ffell Week one last year, which is a
NFL Week one through the super Bowl. Now it's week one,
one week before Week one, and then we do a
put some icing on the cake once the super Bowl

(09:13):
is over at the end of the year. So it'll
be a nice twenty week run, right.

Speaker 4 (09:19):
Yeah, it's it's almost the next step. Would we just
do a year round.

Speaker 1 (09:25):
Next? Have to do this?

Speaker 4 (09:26):
But uh, but but it's great fun. I'm really excited.
We have new logo this year on Benny Versus the Penny,
new season, new logo, new graphics, which.

Speaker 3 (09:36):
Is you'll have I'll have twenty six new shirts.

Speaker 1 (09:39):
I am going to be allowed.

Speaker 4 (09:41):
The people at NBC have told me I can now
wear different clothes this year, so I don't have to
wear the same thing every week. Not that it is
wearing the same thing every single week, but I could
change it.

Speaker 1 (09:51):
Up a little bit.

Speaker 3 (09:52):
And your defense too. You shop at the same place
that the Doc River shops. The Big and Tall you likes,
how both of you and how big both of you
and Doc are?

Speaker 1 (10:01):
How great is that? How good is that story?

Speaker 3 (10:02):
Though?

Speaker 1 (10:02):
Looney? That and you know that story because we go
way back.

Speaker 4 (10:04):
But I ran in when Doc played for the Clippers.
I knew him a little bit and I was in
New York visiting my older brother Joe, and I was
at a big and tall store and Doc was in there.
He was just starting as like a broadcaster, and he
was in there and and.

Speaker 1 (10:20):
He said, he said hello. It was very nice.

Speaker 3 (10:22):
And then as the Doc Rivers said, high band, it's
really that's the greatest thing in the world. When a
famous person.

Speaker 1 (10:29):
It's kind of cool.

Speaker 4 (10:30):
But but but then the funny thing is I grew
to hate him because of his coaching.

Speaker 1 (10:34):
So but at the time, I mean, we had a
good relationship and all that, but it was it was
one of those those things. But I will be wearing
different filings. I did some new clothes this year, so
that's exciting.

Speaker 3 (10:43):
Oh that is great. Well, it's easier for me because
I'm a perfect medium. I got all I got all
the way down to my high school wait for the show.
People don't realize, I know, you put all in, all
the work studying all these games. People don't realize the
dieting and exercise and tanning I put in, and memorization
of lines that I do every single week. People just
are all focused on you and the games and the

(11:05):
scores and uh and forgetting about the hard work. I
put in at the time, Well.

Speaker 4 (11:10):
Clearly yeah, and I want you a listener to know that.
As we were doing this podcast, I had to fight Looney.
He said, why is this not video?

Speaker 1 (11:21):
This show?

Speaker 4 (11:23):
I should be on camera and I'm like, no, this
is audio only. They don't pay me enough, Looney for video,
Like they pay more for video, right, they pay more
for video.

Speaker 3 (11:32):
And you will you will back me up that for
twenty four or twenty three years, even though I was
in a business where people couldn't see me, I was
I was camera ready at all times. I was just
waiting for something.

Speaker 1 (11:46):
Yeah, I'm the opposite, right.

Speaker 4 (11:48):
I hated years ago when Fox Sports Radio put a
camera in the studio and they thought this like stream
on the on the internet and you know, five people
watched it or whatever, but there was a camera on
us all the time. We were like we were like
in a zoo cage, you know. I could not stand
at it was like the worst and uh.

Speaker 3 (12:08):
But now people were also paranoid too that they weren't
really using it. For that reason you know that bosses
and the the illuminati who we worked for, of course,
is because we're members of a major media corporation, would
be watching us, and so we were always a little
worried about that too.

Speaker 1 (12:23):
Yeah, we were slightly slightly concerned.

Speaker 3 (12:26):
I did have a woman, let's talk about it was
not there anymore taco shop on Figueroa who told me
when I told her I worked at Fox Sports Radio,
I came in the next time and she had questions
about the Illuminati because she told her that if I
worked at Fox, I must be part of you. Oh
I have.

Speaker 4 (12:43):
I have had several calls over the years, and my
favorite of all time was years ago. This this old grandma,
probably great grandma from Massachusetts called up and she was
on hold for hours because the person's screening the I
was like, ah, she's she'll.

Speaker 1 (13:01):
Hang up, don't you know whatever, she's terrible, So we
I finally went through. I felt bad she'd been whole
for a while.

Speaker 4 (13:07):
She gets on the air and she says, if I
hate Fox News, I hope you get caantheos like something
like that, and she hung up, hung up the phone,
and I'm like, it's Fox Sports.

Speaker 1 (13:21):
It's iHeart, it's not you know, it's a totally different animal.

Speaker 3 (13:24):
But she had no Well, what's also funny is people
thinking that Fox is so good. Fox News is a brand,
but they're forgetting what about the Family Guy and Simpsons
that used to get protested over the years for their
liberal content or their vulgar content. Over there, Fox On

(13:44):
on Century in Central City has a better place where
you could work and uh in a Hawaiian shirt and
your bare feet for the past twenty five years. So
funny people get all that all that stuff mixed up
when it comes to the media.

Speaker 4 (13:56):
Well, but Lody, this TV show yet again, back, get
back to let's get to us in the show about
the show, and we will be again recording at the
world famous Universal Studios Hollywood. Have our studio, which we
I believe the same studio last year.

Speaker 3 (14:14):
In the Tom brocall building, Tom Tom Looney, Ben Maller.
Which one We're.

Speaker 4 (14:22):
Going to park our parking garages, these Laurel and Hardy garages,
Abet and Costello, abbitt in Costello. I got my comedy
duos mixed up there abbit in Costello. It's been so
long since I've been to Universal. Although I did just
get an email Tom, I hope you got the email too.
It appears I'll be making an early appearance at Universal
to get my parking squared away there.

Speaker 3 (14:42):
So yeah, I didn't get a read the whole thing
when I was clicking into the zoom link.

Speaker 1 (14:47):
But you have much more to do you you were
completely You have to go into the main office there
at Universal and beg for forgiveness and all that.

Speaker 4 (14:54):
I just merely have to pull up. But it is
a tremendous ink. He means when you live in the
north Wood, Looney. But it's a good kind of inconvenience
to have to get over there and get that all
sorted out.

Speaker 3 (15:05):
I'm hoping right, these are the kind of problems we want,
like the problem I was in the middle of a
vacation and had to go to Boston to make promos
and bumps. That's the kind of problems I want in
my life.

Speaker 1 (15:15):
Yeah, So, for full disclosure me and Looney, as you know,
I was in Boston. I missed a couple of the
nights of the Overnight Show. And anytime I missed the
Overnight Show, I get reprimanded by the p ones, Looney.
They get very upset. They're like, you got to be there,
what's wrong with you? Shame or you know. I was
like I couldn't say exactly why.

Speaker 4 (15:32):
People a lot of people figured out why I was
in Boston, and so they put the clues together. But
some people who are completely clueless, like a certain truck
driver in Arkansas, was giving me a really hard time.

Speaker 1 (15:44):
So I was like, whatever that is.

Speaker 3 (15:45):
So, by the way, it's such a compliment when it happens.
Do they are all your hours live now? Do they
repeat the first hour in the last hour?

Speaker 1 (15:53):
Oh no, I don't.

Speaker 3 (15:54):
When JT and I had that shift, people would people
would berate us that the first that the last hour
of the show was just a re recording of the
first hour, and it was such a compliments to five
fucking hours.

Speaker 1 (16:07):
I know, I know, I know. I try to point
this out to people.

Speaker 4 (16:10):
I was like, you know, most they claim, and I
don't know if it's changed over the years with the
world we're in now, but we both got in the radio.
They always said, well, you'll be lucky if people listen
for five or ten minutes. You're well if anything over
ten minutes, so much.

Speaker 3 (16:23):
And that's why those news stations say give us twenty
two minutes, will give you the world, because at one
time the average person listened twenty two minutes.

Speaker 1 (16:30):
Well, I thought that was the average commute was like
twenty two minutes.

Speaker 3 (16:33):
Oh really, Oh that was what was when we when
we were driving Model Ts.

Speaker 4 (16:38):
Yeah, and I would like to thank traffic because I
do very well the last hour on the overnight tom
because people get up earlier and earlier to try to
beat the traffic. So people are getting up on the
road at like five in the morning on the East
Coast and I'm still there, so it's it works out
very well for me. But we were in Boston actually
need them, Massachusetts.

Speaker 1 (16:59):
We flew to Logan I here.

Speaker 3 (17:01):
At the taj Mahal of the NBC Regional Network studios.
That place was amazing.

Speaker 1 (17:06):
Yeah, isn't that, Pa, And you didn't get to go
last year. I went without you and you were there
and we we went into makeup.

Speaker 4 (17:13):
We had everything we brought our obviously about our own wardrobe,
and we went in there and wanted it all over
the place. That's the hub of NBC and Boston. They
had the local NBC News, was there, NBC Sports, like, Yeah,
it was amazing that built.

Speaker 3 (17:27):
You know what was really fun when we were doing
what we were doing and recording promos and bumps and
all that inside lingo stuff. The United States was playing Serbia, remember,
and so what's really fun about working in this business
is everybody said that, you know, the last minute of
the game, and people said, you might just wait and

(17:48):
watch this last minute of the game. Where no other
you know, in any other industry, they're not going to
stop down to let you watch a game. Yeah, but
we are in the sports industry. They let us stopped
down and watched the game.

Speaker 1 (17:59):
That was great.

Speaker 3 (18:00):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (18:00):
Yeah, we we were in full makeup and all the
all the stuff.

Speaker 3 (18:04):
And now before we went out to dinner, did you
take yours off?

Speaker 1 (18:08):
No? You know, I did not want people to set up.

Speaker 3 (18:13):
Yeah, only TV guys were makeup. I wanted to people
want people to notice.

Speaker 4 (18:17):
That's the only way I'll make wear makeup. I'm not
a big makeup guys. You know it's but for the TV,
you know, for the almighty all powerful TV camera, we'll
do the makeup. But we had a power dinner after
we spent all day and this was a long day.
This was many hours. We had the makeup. We had
you know, the meeting, we were giving us lines. You
were then ad living some of the lines. I was

(18:38):
then throwing stuff out there. But then after that. We
went back to the hotel and then we we met
up at a fine restaurant in the Boston area there
and we got to eat on the company dime they
go for the meal, and I'm happy to report that
we all ordered steak. I think we ordered the most

(19:00):
expensive thing on the menu, which is I'm very proud of,
even me. I'm not a big steak guy, Looney, but
I was like, hey, listen, I'm not paying for it.
NBC's paying for it. I'm getting steak. And I had
it butterfly cut, just the way.

Speaker 3 (19:11):
I had a butterfly cut. You had one trash butterfly cut.

Speaker 1 (19:14):
It was so good.

Speaker 3 (19:15):
Oh my, you know, how how upsetting that? How upsetting
that is? No, it's wonderful for the chef, Looney.

Speaker 4 (19:22):
The customer is always right, Mooney, and I'm the customer.
And that's the way I like my steak. That's the
way I enjoyed.

Speaker 3 (19:29):
The person who originally said the customer was never right
was a rich guy who had never worked behind a counter.

Speaker 1 (19:34):
Well, so the customers always right, not never right, but yeah, no,
but here's all right. That was your polish coming out
in you right now.

Speaker 3 (19:41):
Well, it was, yeah, you know why, because I was
looking for you know, whenever I go out to my
favorite Mexican restaurant, there's this great reporter it seems to
be there, and he's always still got his makeup on.
So I wanted to be like one of my favorite
reporters and have my makeup on when we went out.
So that's why I was looking up to say. I
was looking on the Channel five website for him because

(20:04):
he's always at the UH at the don Kuco and
Burdbank and says, oh, man, I gotta I gotta wear
my makeup just like my guy does. And Chris Wolfe
from Channel fives, because I'm one of those guys that
still watch his local news back Channel five local news.
Yeah yeah, and I.

Speaker 1 (20:22):
Love local news.

Speaker 4 (20:23):
I love local news and UH and whenever I go
to a new city, I always the first thing I
do is get until I flip on the local news.
Me too, yeah, the local I love the goofy local
weather person, always complaining either too hot or too cold
and then well and and sarcastically overwarms up.

Speaker 3 (20:42):
You know something like that. In Syracuse more than once,
the UH, the weather person has become the lead news
anchor because it gets so popular because all it is,
you know, the whole news is always weather is news
and Syracuse because it's blizzard, blizzard, blizzard, blizzard, blizzer, blizzer, blizzard, right,
and the weather guy gets so much time on television

(21:04):
They're Q rating goes up, and they said, let's just
make them the anchorman.

Speaker 1 (21:08):
So that's what.

Speaker 3 (21:08):
They've done a lot of times over the years there. So, yeah,
the weather people are more important in the Northeast than
there where we live.

Speaker 1 (21:14):
Yeah, yeah, but but you know, there are always out
in LA. It's just like mostly very curvacous women.

Speaker 3 (21:20):
Yes, yes, that is the most g rated way we
can put it. Curvacious women who I don't think went
to meteorology school at Penn stated they don't think they're
working for ACU weather.

Speaker 4 (21:30):
The first couple can tell you the Doppler, They can
read the Doppler radar, you know, but I think they.

Speaker 3 (21:36):
Learned on the fly. I don't because I don't think
it's that hard to learn it. But I bet you
anything is that that's another one of those majors that
they could probably teach in a class, and they stretch
them out for four years.

Speaker 4 (21:48):
More likely than not, Now the a couple of things
happened at that dinner which were hilarious. Now you were
there with your godson, right.

Speaker 1 (21:56):
Yes, we've got there.

Speaker 3 (21:58):
Yep.

Speaker 4 (21:58):
Eric, very cool guy to see him, And I was
trying to remember that I meet Eric when you know,
when we were there in the nineties, and I don't
know that I did.

Speaker 3 (22:07):
I don't know that you did, but if you did,
you know, he would have been tiny. And so what's
what I really liked is he's just as a side
notes guy because your your wife is amazing. When you
have right now that you're a TV guy, you don't
even have to upgrade like TV guys. Do you already
have a gorgeous wife of the music personality Always you
wonder where these politicians get these amazing wives who can

(22:29):
also talk to everybody, and you've already got one. And
when we were in makeup Eric and sometimes have social exiety,
I came back and you're talking away. He's talking about
his daughter, and I'm thinking, wow, Okay, I knew that
he'd be in good hands with your wife.

Speaker 4 (22:43):
Oh no, it was great. But there was one moment
with him where we ordered the food. So the food
shows up at the table, but what he ordered something
that was different than what.

Speaker 1 (22:54):
They screwed it up.

Speaker 4 (22:55):
Yeah, well then they had to take the food back.
But then there's this awkward situation at the table where
everyone wants to be polite and wait for your, your
god son Eric to get his food. In the meantime,
all of our food is getting cold.

Speaker 3 (23:10):
I know, and I and I think it should I
because and because he's young, he's just looking at his phone,
not noticing everyone's waiting for him to get his food.
And he's just looking at his phone and looking at
his phone.

Speaker 1 (23:21):
And I was waiting for him to give the social
to you.

Speaker 4 (23:23):
Oh it's okay, just eat, I'll get my food, don't worry,
just eat and said that.

Speaker 1 (23:26):
He never said it.

Speaker 4 (23:30):
So we looked up from his phone. We're sitting there,
and I'm like, I'm staring at my stake. I'm like,
it's getting colder. It's getting colder. And then I looked
in the back and I'm like, well, maybe this will
be his food.

Speaker 1 (23:40):
You know, they'll bring it right out.

Speaker 3 (23:41):
Forty two things came out before Yeah. Yeah, and I
again again also point out at me I could have
texted him since he was looking at his phone.

Speaker 1 (23:51):
Let everyone know they could just stop.

Speaker 3 (23:53):
And then I didn't do it because I thought he
would look up at some point and he didn't look up.

Speaker 1 (23:58):
And and the sense of relief when his food finally came,
which seemed like it was maybe, you know, fifty minutes
later when when it showed up and we all started eating,
was like, oh, finally.

Speaker 4 (24:11):
The other thing that happened at this power meal. And
we had these are big time hitters here, Lenny, we
had who was the executive producer. I think that's is
that his title of the show, h Vinnie, Kevin. We
had a bunch of people. These are all very important people.

Speaker 3 (24:25):
I know John's a VP. I do know that.

Speaker 1 (24:27):
Yeah, very important people.

Speaker 3 (24:29):
Kamala Harras of Boston.

Speaker 4 (24:31):
Vinnie's our day to day you know, producer. Kevin's the
big shot that runs at NBC Sports Boston there day
to day.

Speaker 1 (24:38):
So all these are very important people, right, much too
important to hang out with. Me and Looney. We're grabbing it.

Speaker 4 (24:43):
We're having a nice steak dinner and as the the
meals kind of winding down a little bit, right, Uh now,
I'm sitting my wife is on my right, Looney is
on uh two over my left and then and uh
so we're sitting there and I look over in my

(25:04):
peripheral vision. Now the meal is winding down. You kind
of get that vibe when you're at a meal like this.

Speaker 1 (25:08):
It's windy, it's kind of getting over.

Speaker 4 (25:10):
So I look over at Looney and he's got this,
You've got this plate full of broccoli.

Speaker 3 (25:18):
Yeah, it was a hard time working. I think anyone
would would would be on my so and be on
my side over this.

Speaker 4 (25:24):
No mean, let me say so, I thought you're not
gonna eat the broccoli. I just assumed, Okay, you're good
and you're just gonna yet you're done with your meal
and you're just gonna have the waiter take the broccoli away,
and that you're not didn't want to eat it. But no,
you're slowly, like you're ninety five years old, working your way.

Speaker 1 (25:44):
Through the BROCOLI I'm like, oh my god.

Speaker 4 (25:47):
And it took you, I would say, and I don't
want to exaggerate, Looney two hours to eat the broccoli.

Speaker 1 (25:55):
My god?

Speaker 3 (25:56):
What was Well? First of all, broccoli sucks, But I.

Speaker 1 (26:00):
Why did you get it? You could have gotten potatoes
or something.

Speaker 3 (26:03):
Well, because of because we have a TV show coming up,
and I'm I'm obsessed to being at my high school
weight for the TV show. So I was working forcing
my way through the broccoli, as anybody who can attested
and eats broccoli would let you know, you have to
force your way through it. It was a tough. Yeah,
it was tough, and it took me way too.

Speaker 1 (26:21):
Love that.

Speaker 3 (26:21):
Those are the two most Polish moments, if I may
gave an homage to my relatives in Poland, where where
me not texting Eric saying let us know we can eat,
and me working my way through the broccoli and taking
forever like I was nine.

Speaker 4 (26:35):
You were involved in both of the awkward moments and naha,
it's this power meal and then we add after the meal.
And I do want to point out there was last year.
I don't know if we talked about this when I
had you on last year before season one at Beny
Versus the Penny, but there were a couple of awkward
moments where we talked about people in the business and
each of us stepped.

Speaker 3 (26:57):
Ring forgetting the vice presidents and presidents of works might
have worked with those people.

Speaker 1 (27:02):
Yeah, we may may not have trash.

Speaker 3 (27:04):
Both stepped and ship home within a week of each other.

Speaker 4 (27:09):
Oh, very very awkward, very awkward. That did not happen
this year.

Speaker 1 (27:14):
In fact, opposite happened one person who I praised, and
I think you paused the conversation. Loony. There was a
broadcaster who we will not name, who I praised, Right,
I said, I think this guy's amazing.

Speaker 3 (27:26):
Well, I had to stop down the whole Let the
whole table know that Ben is like the guy. This
is a difference between your personality and mine. If we
go to the prom, we are girls at the prom
and I see somebody else were in the same dress. Hey,
we got the same dress. You would be the one
of the problem that wanted to execute the girl in
the same dress. Right, you think every other broadcaster sucks,

(27:49):
But there was one that you gave a fuse of
praise to that people really hate on because they're jealous
of his youth and how talented he is. Yeah, I was.
I was stunned by a fusive praise of a young broadcast.

Speaker 4 (28:02):
And was not reciprocated by some of the people at
the table.

Speaker 3 (28:07):
Right, surprise, Yes, that was surprisingly so right, Yes I was.

Speaker 1 (28:10):
I was shot by that.

Speaker 4 (28:11):
So then after the meal we went back and we decided. Looney,
I actually pitched this to you. I said, hey, why
don't we celebrate rare and appropriate because I had been fasting.
I told you I went five days without eating, actually
actually six days without eating.

Speaker 1 (28:29):
I was so paranoid. I was going to look like
Job of the Hut on TV.

Speaker 4 (28:34):
Even though I've been about the same weight for the
last year and a half, two years or whatever. But
in my head, I still have the mindset that I
was big, real big men back in the day.

Speaker 1 (28:45):
And so I was doing this extreme fast.

Speaker 3 (28:47):
Yeah, we both have body dysmorphia.

Speaker 1 (28:49):
Yep. Yeah, I was doing this extreme fasting. But I
was like, all right.

Speaker 4 (28:52):
We did the production shoot, we did the promos and
all that stuff for the TV show.

Speaker 1 (28:57):
We had the meal. I ate a steak. That's good.

Speaker 4 (29:00):
So I was like, let's go, let's go have a canoli.
Let's celebrate. We're in Boston, why not? And so you
and your god send me and the wife. We I
had rental car because we had to drive up to
see Arnie in Vermont, and so we drove over to
the north end of Boston. And I was shocked because you, Looney,
travel all of you've been to a million places if

(29:21):
you took a map out and put a pin everywhere
Looney's by now yeah, insane and yet.

Speaker 3 (29:27):
Over forty or forty five states, and I don't know
how many countries and continents, et cetera. But uh, you
love the incredible A through Z list of places I've
bet and.

Speaker 1 (29:36):
I've been to.

Speaker 4 (29:37):
Like I go to the same place as I go
to Boston, I go to New York, I go you know, Chicago,
I go to the Big Seas.

Speaker 1 (29:43):
I don't really get off the grid very much. But
you had never been to the North End of Boston that.

Speaker 3 (29:49):
Bloo and I was blown away by the North End
of Boston. You know, you really could judge a place,
at least for me by when I walk in, When
I go into a place and I say, wow, I
could live here, And I've said that about about a
handful of places over the years. And North oh, yes,
because I could, Like I would love to be an
apartment upstairs and just walk never have to drive. Because

(30:10):
maybe it's because of all this time living in la
it's always places we don't have to drive, like Amsterdam
and some cities in Mexico where you can walk downstairs
and get a coffee or walk downstairs and get a meal. Yeah,
and North End of Boston's amazing. And what's great about
that is you said you want to go out for dessert.
I didn't know where you're going to take me, and
then I just thought we'd pick a place nearby. No,

(30:31):
because what we were staying wasn't nearby.

Speaker 1 (30:35):
About a fifteen minute driver.

Speaker 3 (30:37):
So oh, it's terrific. However long it was it was.

Speaker 4 (30:40):
Yeah, the North End, to me, that's Boston. If you
will say they hate Boston, how can you hate the
North End of Boston? And that place goes back to
the early seventeenth century right right by English Puritans. I
love going to places that are bathing in history. Yeah,
so I'm not a lot.

Speaker 1 (30:56):
Of that where we are in California, you know.

Speaker 3 (30:58):
No, we paved pair of ice and put up a
parking lot. Even the stuff that was bathing in history
is gone. A McDonald's there now.

Speaker 1 (31:06):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (31:06):
I think that Paul Revere, his house from sixteen eighty
was still there. Bill there right there after all these
all these Although I did see that documentary years ago
Looney where they said it was Israel Bissell, Who's who
was the real hero, not Paul Revere, but Paul Revere
had a better name, and so they went with the

(31:27):
name Paul.

Speaker 3 (31:28):
Oh with the legend. Yeah, go with the legend.

Speaker 1 (31:31):
You know where it comes from. Yeah.

Speaker 3 (31:32):
In fact, Buzz Aldrin was supposed to be the first
guy to walk on the Moon. At the last minute
they got you know, I got a little round table corner,
offenses said, Neil Armstrong. Is a better name for a
hero than Buzz in the sixties, right, And so at
the last minute they switched that up on Buzz.

Speaker 4 (31:53):
Did they film the moon landing at Universal or where
did they film that?

Speaker 1 (31:56):
Do?

Speaker 3 (31:56):
I think it was the Tom Brokaw building before it
was called the Tom.

Speaker 4 (32:00):
Provoco right over there, right there. And the cool thing
that we didn't really get to do too much of
this last year. But now since the TV show's back,
we will be able to again have access to the
Universal lots.

Speaker 1 (32:14):
So we'll have to take advantage of that.

Speaker 4 (32:15):
We'll have to, you know, after the taping, we'll have
to pick a week and just wander around.

Speaker 1 (32:19):
Sure and enjoyed.

Speaker 4 (32:21):
I love it because I I in the old days
when Fox Sports Radio launched, I had access to the
to the Fox lot. I know, you worked over there
with the best damn sports show. But for me, we
had reading studios over there, and I had free reign.
I would take relatives who would come to town from
you know, other far away places, and we just go
and like wander around the back lot, on the Fox lot,

(32:42):
the New York skyline and all that, and and then
nine to eleven happened, and then that was over and
now and then yeah, no one's allowed on there, you know,
unless you have a pass and so. But but for
for about a year, it was amazing. It was so
cool just to wander around and nobody cared. They ran
all over the place and it was awesome. And it's

(33:03):
a little similar. There's a lot of security at Universal,
but once you get on there in the back, you
can can wander around. And also, before I forget, I
mentioned this at the beginning. You didn't hear it, looney,
but at the beginning, not only is Benny Versus the
Penny a regional cable sports show.

Speaker 3 (33:17):
On the end, ohoh you have you have psychic caability?
Because I was gonna tell you shut up and remind
him about Peacock. Is that what you're gonna do?

Speaker 1 (33:23):
Yeah, yeah, Eddie, Eddie.

Speaker 4 (33:25):
I didn't tell Eddie because he was gonna he was
gonna scream it out. He was one guy I didn't tell.
He asked me about this, and I didn't tell him.
But we are on Peacock. We're national. This is a
national TV show now, Benny Versus the Penny. We made
it through our rookie year and now the show will
be available everywhere.

Speaker 3 (33:43):
Here's why I'm excited. I'm a big fan of watching
Below Deck Mediterranean. So when people are typing in b
e right, Allen, Anna, right next to each other, right, Allen,
it's going to suggest to the Below Deck Mediterranean pads
that they watch Benny Versus to Penny. I'm very excited.

Speaker 4 (34:02):
About and so it's it's both exciting, it's exhilarating, and
it's also scary looney because now I mean, they'll track exactly.
Cable television is a little hit and miss. You don't
know exactly who's watching, but it's with Peacock, they know
exactly who's to do. My advice is, hey, listen, if
you're a fan of the show and you have kids,
you know a lot of you, maybe you have grandkids

(34:23):
and they have Peacock. Even if they don't know who
we are, me and you, Looney, just have them watch,
you know, just have them this show.

Speaker 1 (34:30):
And we've got some credit for that.

Speaker 4 (34:31):
We'd love for them to enjoy the show and like
the show and watch the show and be part of
the show. And it's not just the hard old sports show,
because Looney, I do the hard old sports. You just
you know, goof around, right, You just do jokes, You
do penny jokes the whole time.

Speaker 3 (34:42):
Right, Well, come on, I do just as much research
as you do, and I steal yours as well, and everyone,
so I pluck one of yours.

Speaker 1 (34:50):
Yah, yeah, yeah. So here's what happens, full Scoar.

Speaker 3 (34:52):
So I people's research is still research.

Speaker 4 (34:56):
I spend all week putting notes together for the show,
and I use about, what do you think, maybe ten
percent of what I write. So I send it to Vinnie,
our producer in Boston, and like, hey, here's Vinnie, here's
what I got this week. Uh. And then inevitably, during
the show, while we're recording Benny Versus the Penny, something
that I had sent Vinnie will will fly back in

(35:18):
my direction.

Speaker 1 (35:19):
From Looney's mouth. I'm like, wait a minute. You didn't
come up with it, how dare you?

Speaker 3 (35:23):
As you know, I did want to go up into
stand up comedy when I was younger, and I realized
I would get assassinated. I do not forget any good joke,
any good sports factoid goes in my head, and I
will unabashedly, unashamedly steal it and use it right on
the air, right in front of the face of the
person who did all the.

Speaker 1 (35:44):
Work, as you have done. We did that radio show
to get well.

Speaker 4 (35:50):
We did the show at Extra for a little bit,
and then box we did the Blitz for seven or
eight years.

Speaker 3 (35:56):
We were doing for the show sent pre NFL game
and for all six hours during I mean during the
six hours when the most of the games are played
from ten am Pacific time till four pm. Yeah, it
was terrific fun until we had to interview, of course,
the athlete chapter of the early games, who's they ruined
the whole show?

Speaker 1 (36:15):
A little tough?

Speaker 4 (36:16):
Yeah, that was that was awkward. All right, Well, well
end it there, Looney, Thank you. I look forward to
seeing next week the show starts. We go live on tape,
as you like to say, Looney live on Peacock and
all the NBC affiliates on the cable.

Speaker 1 (36:29):
So we're excited.

Speaker 3 (36:30):
Since there's no games and we're not doing preseason games.
What is the first show going to be about? Give
them a little tease tease ahead here. Well, as you know,
program direct you on the air, I am.

Speaker 4 (36:40):
A distant relative of no Stra Damas and friend of Nostradina.
So show one is going to be a projection on
what we can expect. A lot of win totals over unders.
On win totals where me put your money with the
win totals. Yeah, and there there are some people that
I know that don't play the stock market and they
invest their money on wins totals. There's a hack that

(37:03):
I learned years ago that I will share on the
TV show when it comes to win totals and player props,
which is stacking the deck in your favor. I don't
do it all the time, but it does stack. I'll
explain it on the TV show and we'll also do
some player props likely as well.

Speaker 3 (37:20):
What do you think the biggest tees right now is
the most confusing head scratcher? Where are they trying to
sucker people? Just to give a tease for a week
one of.

Speaker 4 (37:28):
Well, the team that gets has gotten a lot of publicity,
or the Chicago Bears on Hard Knocks, Right, they got
a rookie quarterback, they've got a coach who's on the
hot seat. I don't have it in front of me,
but the team, generally, the team that gets the most
buzz in the media run away from them.

Speaker 1 (37:47):
It doesn't go well.

Speaker 4 (37:49):
The team that wins the offseason, it doesn't doesn't generally
go well for them. But we'll talk about that during
the TV show. Thank you, Loony, I appreciate that. And
make sure you show up on time. Do not show
a don't show up late to our table read Loony, please,
and you need to be there exactly when we start
the table read please.

Speaker 3 (38:05):
I'll tell my driver
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