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January 29, 2026 16 mins
Sheriff Bradshaw updates us on 'Operation: Unplugged,' the ICE arrests across the country, Florida's Move Over law and ongoing contractual issues between PBSO and Loxahatchee Groves.

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Hey, Joel Malcolm WJ and O dot com and we
have protecting the Palm Beaches and we are circling back
to Palm Beach County Sheriff Rick Bradshaw appreciate you joining
me today.

Speaker 2 (00:11):
Good morning. How are you.

Speaker 1 (00:12):
I'm doing all right? Happy New Year. Han't spoke to
you since the New Year? All right, So we have
a few things that I want to talk to you about,
and I appreciate your time. Let's start with Operation Unplugged.
I want to say it was December. I think it
was December when we first heard about this, when you
first announced it to the public. But it was an
operation that had been underway for I guess over a year,

(00:33):
and it was targeting folks a lot of the drug
criminals in the Lakeworth Beach area, but also some other
areas as well. Give us just a short synopsis on
that for folks that might have missed it, and then
if you have an update on it. I know at
the time we first became public there were some more
arrests that were expected.

Speaker 2 (00:55):
Yeah, it turned out to be the largest operation that
we've done since I've been the sheriff, for sure. You know,
when you rest one hundred and one people. That's a
bunch and you're really making a d in the drug trade.
And you know it's just not Lake Worth Beach. There's
some other places. And what you have to realize that
these drug dealers they're pretty pretty mobile, pretty fluid. You know,

(01:18):
they don't just just sit in one area, so they
covered a lot of area. Now, the interesting thing is
fifteen of the people that we arrested in that original
operation we've arrested again. They got out of jail and
we got them more time.

Speaker 1 (01:35):
How are they getting out of jail with some of
these charges that we saw? I mean that, and I'm
not trying to get you to you know whatever, but
it's not like a gotcha for you know, for for anything.
But I mean, what were some of these charges? There
were some pretty serious charge. They weren't a lot of
just you know, possession, right, there were possession to sell

(01:57):
and somebody some a lot stronger charge.

Speaker 2 (02:01):
Absolutely. You know, there's a bond schedule for just about
everything except for a very serious personal crime like attempted murder,
vehicle homicide, things like that. So there's a schedule. You know,
if you do a burglary, if you do drugs. If
you did this on what the bond's going to be,

(02:22):
and if you can make the bond, then you can
get out. Now, the judge has the right to increase
the bond if he wants to, but most of the
time they go by the bond schedule, and if people
can make the bond, they get out. So these guys
were able to, you know, get somebody to bond them out.
You know, the bond's only charge about ten percent of

(02:43):
what the bond is, and they got out. But they
went right back to what they're doing and we got
them again.

Speaker 1 (02:51):
And so in a case, well, first of all, I
was going to ask, isn't there a case where you
have the bond hearing and the judge orders no bond
or would that be what you're taughtalking about in the
most serious cases.

Speaker 2 (03:03):
It's usually the most serious cases. Or a guy so
that is like this is his third time in a row.
You know, it's pretty obvious he's not going to stop.
But the judges have that discretion to increase what the
bond is or no bond, but more times than not
they go by the bond schedule.

Speaker 1 (03:21):
And then so some of these people that were caught
again you would think maybe will not get bond.

Speaker 2 (03:29):
Well, it's hard to tell. I don't know. We're gonna
We're going to track them and I'll let you know.

Speaker 1 (03:34):
But and I just it just has to be frustrating
to the folks that are you know, you have the
undercovers and everybody else that's working so hard and it's
such a dangerous job, and then you see these people
back on the streets.

Speaker 2 (03:47):
Right, Yeah, it is. But you know that's the system.
You know, that's that's the issue that's going on now
with ICE and immigration in some of these sanctuary cities
that they arrest these guys that are illegal and they
got a horrendous background, but yet they let them go
back in the community because they're a sanctuary city. Now,

(04:12):
to me, that's worse than anything there is. You know
that this guy's bad, you know that he's done certain
things in other countries, You've got him under arrest. Why
would you turn a back into the community to victimize
other people?

Speaker 1 (04:28):
You know, we do talking about that ICE situation. We
do see in some of these places like Minneapolis and
others where you have the police officials there, the leaders
in law enforcement going along with it. Is that something
that they and you don't know. But I'm just so
I guess I'm just kind of trying to pick your
brain at it. Is that something that they go along

(04:49):
with you think, or is that just something that you know,
they go along to get along, because that's how the
leadership in the city and the state for that matter, feels.

Speaker 2 (05:00):
Well. I'm not going to get into politics because I'm
a politician, but you know, that's the way these some
of these politicians think that, you know, these people should
be turned back to the community. And because the police
chief works for the mayor and the commission, you know,

(05:20):
if they say to him, you know, you can't do X,
Y and C, well he either doesn't or they're going
to fire him. Yeah, that's that's why to out, that's
why through out America sheriffs are elected because I answered
to the people. Right, Nobody tells me what to do
except for the people.

Speaker 1 (05:41):
All right, let's go. Let's oh, just one more thing
about the unplugged Everybody that was supposed to be arrested
was arrested because again I mentioned that at the beginning,
when you first announced this, there were some people I
think there were maybe fifteen or so that you were
still going to get they've all been gotten.

Speaker 2 (05:57):
Oh yeah, we eventually get them all A no matter.

Speaker 1 (06:00):
All right now my segue. Let's move over to this one.
Move over the move over law. And I know that
there was a change last year, and I understand that
law enforcement in the area starting to really focus on
enforcing this because I haven't ever heard of anybody actually
getting a ticket for not moving over. So is that

(06:22):
going to be the case moving forward?

Speaker 2 (06:25):
Well, you can because you know, look and you've seen
videos of this. Were people that are driving crash into
a trooper or deputy or somebody that's on nine nine
or a big expressway.

Speaker 1 (06:38):
Well, Sheriff, Sheriff, we had I mean, I don't know,
we still don't know all the particulars on it, but
we had that sadly, with your three deputies out out
west on eighty. I think it's only a two lane road,
so I don't know that there was an opportunity. I
could be wrong to move over there, but obviously if
you have deputies on the side of the road and

(06:58):
you have to be extra careful. Would love an update
on that, but I'm guessing you don't have it, because
we probably would have heard about it, but anyway, you
just made me think about that.

Speaker 2 (07:06):
You don't have that yet, but here, you know, the
bottom line is this, right, you got so much distracted
driving going on. Even with these people on the turnpike
in ninety five. You know, they're on their phone or
they're looking at their phone, or they're you know, doing
something they shouldn't be doing, and all of a sudden
they look up and you know they're going off the

(07:27):
road or you know, swerving. It's just it's a dangerous thing,
especially when the deputy or the officer has got somebody
pulled over and you know there's not enough room for
two cars. Him on the road talking to people. That's
why it's important to slow down and move over.

Speaker 1 (07:49):
So is there more enforcement going on with this at
this point? Is your is your agency focusing on this
more now than maybe they were six months ago.

Speaker 2 (08:00):
Well, we're not specifically targeting it. You know the address
the aggressive driving unit that I have that's out here.
You know, if they see it, then they'll do something
about it. But we're not going out of our way
to go get them right now.

Speaker 1 (08:17):
It just uh, And to just summarize, there was a change,
was it I want to say it was last year
in the state legislature. I know, initially the move overlaw
was focused on if there is an officer with the
lights on, or an ambulance or a fire truck, you
had to move over. And now I think it's every car,
any kind of vehicle on the side. Correct.

Speaker 2 (08:39):
Well, it's people that are involved in resolving what's going on,
like a traffic accent. So it could be a tow truck,
it could be somebody that's the road rangers that are
trying to fix a car. Those type of things aid
to somebody else on the side of the road.

Speaker 1 (08:56):
And so is it not just somebody pulled over with
the flat tire? Does that not count? No? Oh wow, Okay,
I misunderstood that. I thought that was the case. I
thought it was just But I guess it's good, you know, people,
because I still move over for that because you know,
my car goes out of control, somebody's over there, and yeah,

(09:17):
all right, contractual issues. You've got the situation with locks
of Hatchie Groves, and we should just kind of set
the table here a lot of for folks that don't know,
there are many and you'll probably have the number off
the top of your head. But many local municipalities in
Palm Beach County that no longer or maybe they never
had their own police, their own law enforcement, and they

(09:40):
contract with PbSO. PbSO provides those services. Locks of Hatchie
Groves is one of them. But there have been contract negotiations,
and the way it's being reported is that you're no
longer providing law enforcement services there. I feel like that
doesn't actually I feel like that's not actually the whole story,
first of all, And then we could talk about the

(10:00):
contractual issues, because you're still gonna, You're still gonna, You're
still going to be there if you needed.

Speaker 2 (10:06):
It's definitely not the whole story. I can tell you
that for sure. First of all, For for many years,
I have subsidized that contract. In other words, I have
it increased what they pay us. And every year I
have an increase, you know, probably between two and five percent.
And most of the cities that you know I deal

(10:28):
with get a raise in their contract so I can
meet the personnel requirements. I haven't done that with Locks
of Hacke Groves. It's been zero. Well, this time I
needed to give a small increase and they said no,
we can't afford it. And I said, well, okay, but
you know this, this is the contract and we've done

(10:49):
the best we can with it. And they decided, okay,
we're not going to pay it. Well, if you're not
going to pay it, then you will not have an
assigned deputy. In other words, some money that works particularly
and locks of Hacke grows and responds to the calls
that are in there in a very timely fashion. So

(11:10):
they said, well, we're not paying and I said, well, okay,
then that deputy's coming out of there, and you'll be
part of larger unincorporated Palm Beach County and when there's
a call for service, we'll send who's ever available. But
there's no guarantee they're going to be there as fast
as they would if you had somebody assigned. So it's

(11:30):
not that we're not going to go, it's just that
they're not going to get the level of service that
they had before. You know, I've got like thirteen contracts
for thirteen cities, and you know, they're always very reasonable.
We've always saved the city's money. But the reality of
it is, like every other budget mine goes up every

(11:53):
year because I have personnel costs. So usually the contracts
for the cities goes up between one and three percent.

Speaker 1 (12:04):
So how many months have they not paid now? Is
this is January? The second month? Who was December? And January?

Speaker 2 (12:12):
It's like a month and a half. But here's the
interesting thing too. With a group like that wants to
become an incorporated city or town, all right, there's certain
requirements for them to meet before they get that certification.
They have to provide police, fire and emergency services. Otherwise

(12:37):
you can't be a city. So if they decide that
they're not doing this anymore, we will go to Tallahassee
and tell them they're not living up to their end
of degreement. You need to decertify them as a town.

Speaker 1 (12:50):
When did when did Locks of Hachie Groves become incorporated?
It's within recent years, is it not.

Speaker 2 (12:58):
I'm just guessing seven eight years ago?

Speaker 1 (13:01):
Yeah, yeah, I know it's within the last decade. I
remember it. I just don't remember the year.

Speaker 2 (13:07):
But so yeah, Look, they're not complaining about the service.
Not one single purpose person in fact, like to the contrary,
is complaining about the service that they get from us.
It's all the money deal with them, our contract is
about eight percent of their budget. That's all.

Speaker 1 (13:31):
So you're saying you're gonna potentially go to Tallahassee, how
how long are you gonna?

Speaker 2 (13:35):
Like?

Speaker 1 (13:36):
I mean, what what is the latest on this? Are they?
Are they at least willing to talk like, Okay, can
we give you this much more? I mean, is there
any kind of give and take there? Or is there
just an amount you need and that's that? Are they
just trying to play hardball maybe getting figure in that
your agency will just go Okay, we'll stay where we are.
I mean, what is the what is the situation there?

(13:57):
Because I would think residents of Locksahatchie Groves would would
be not too happy with their with their leaders there right.

Speaker 2 (14:06):
Well, Number one, I don't think everybody out there knows
what's going on. There hasn't been a large crowd at
these meetings. The last meeting they had, they decided that they're,
you know, going to give us another offer to do
what should be done and see what's going to happen.
But you know, I'm to the point now where it's

(14:27):
as low as it's going to go. They know what
the situation is, this is what it costs I'm not
going to reduce the number of deputies because that's a
danger to the people that live out there. So it's
one of those deals. This is what it is, and
you've got to decide, you know, how you're going to
fund it. That's why you're in the position you're in

(14:49):
to say, with the county Commission. They have to make
decisions in order to fund public safety.

Speaker 1 (14:56):
So is there a point that you're going to say, Okay,
now it's been exem of months, Hey, Tallahassee, you should
do this. I mean, is that or is that not
even in your mind right now?

Speaker 2 (15:08):
Well, it is in my mind, and I'm not going
to wait a lot longer. If they're in default of
the contract. It's not me to cancel this, it's them
if they're in default of the contract, and we'll not
pay for the services. But basically they're not providing what

(15:29):
they should provide based on the articles of incorporation. So
if that's the case and they keep up with this,
we're not going to pay. Then we're prepared to go
to Tallahassee. We have lawyers that are preparing the documents,
and we'll do what we'll do what we have to do.

Speaker 1 (15:49):
All right. Uh so you're getting busy right now, getting
phone calls there, the old old school phone. Yeah, I'm
going on in the car. I appreciate you taking the time.
I'm to talk with us, and I'm gonna let you
run and get along with your busy day again. Palm
Beach County Sheriff Rick Bradshaw, we do appreciate you joining
us for protecting the Palm Beaches.

Speaker 2 (16:10):
Hi, Joel, thanks for getting me in full out
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