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March 27, 2025 16 mins
Bradshaw answers questions and concerns about the new program that offers businesses rainbow shield stickers to post on their storefronts as a way to be a "welcoming" place for victims of hate crimes.  One key takeaway: He says the Sheriff's Office program is not LGBTQ-targeted, but open to ALL people who have been victims of crime but not sure where to turn.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Hey, Joel Malcoln for WJNO dot com and protecting the
Palm Beaches with pom Beach County Sheriff Rick Bradshaw. We
got a note from the Sheriff's office last week about
the Safe Place program. It's a safe Place initiative the
Sheriff's office, as it ensures, assures that any individual who's
a victim of a hate crime can find immediate safety

(00:22):
and support. And there's going to be a rainbow star
decal at participating businesses. There won't be a cost for
the businesses to take part, and they won't be they
won't have to take part, but ones that want to
can do that. I'm going to have the sheriff talk
to us about that, and I do have a few
questions as well. Sheriff, thank you for joining me.

Speaker 2 (00:44):
First of all, well, it's my pleasure. And look, this
initiative is just one of a lot of things that
we do to try to make it easier for people
to communicate with us. Try to get people, you know,
safe their neighborhoods, try to make access to us and
their safety the best it can be. And you know,

(01:07):
there's a lot of people they don't know where the
district substation is. You know, they don't know how to
get to it, but yet they've got a problem going on.
And you know, the focus is hate crimes, but it's
actually any type of thing. You know, it could be
domestic abuse, it could be somebody that's just a victim
of a crime. It could be somebody that is a

(01:28):
victim of a hate crime, because sometimes they're out here,
but this gives them the opportunity to go to one
of these businesses that want to participate and feel safe,
and the fact that the business can get ahold of
us and say, hey, there's a person here that really
needs to talk to a deputy. I mean, it's just
that simple. There's no agenda here, there's no anything about

(01:51):
the program other than trying to help people.

Speaker 1 (01:55):
All right, well let me This was initially set up
up out of Seattle, and that's the first thing that people,
you know, have concerns about this is this is where
it was first done. You may or may not be
aware of some of this stuff because I know you're
the you know, you're the top dog with the agency,
but you have a lot of you know, a lot
of delegation going down to other folks so this this

(02:18):
was started with the Seattle Police Department in twenty fifteen,
originally born out of a need to address low reporting
of anti LGBTQ crimes, and it was expanded in twenty
eighteen to include all hate crimes, and over three hundred
and sixty agencies throughout the world are licensed in the
Safe Place program. Pombach County actually announced the thirty hundred

(02:40):
and sixty first I understand for anybody that might have
concerns something coming out of the Seattle PD. I mean
we know that that was the you know, one of
the first or well known uh sanctuary quote unquote sanctuary
welcoming cities for like illegal immigrants for example. You know,
anybody concerned the why Palm Beach County would want to

(03:01):
go about that at this time.

Speaker 2 (03:06):
No, because we don't model anything after anybody else. What
we try to do is take programs that we see
around the United States that obviously work, and then make
them tailored to our area. We could care less so
what Seattle does, We're not involved with them. Our policies
are not the same. They can do whatever they want to.
This is tailored to our deeds, This is tailored to

(03:27):
our community. That has nothing to do with specifically LBGQ community.
It's a matter of people having the opportunity to find
some safe place in their neighborhood they can walk into
and say they want some help.

Speaker 1 (03:41):
So it's so because that's that's where I'm a little confused,
because I at first I had seen that there was
a PbSO had an LGBTQ liaison unit, but then I
see that it's referenced as the Okay SO SO is
Are there any concerns that this type of program, especially
super serving LGBTQ community members over maybe other members, might

(04:06):
go against any anti DEI policies and laws in Florida.
And then what was the imputus behind requesting this grant
last year? This came out of a grant under the
Biden administration's I believe the Justice Department to get this going,
and then I guess it was just recently approved and
put into place.

Speaker 2 (04:24):
Yeah, this has nothing to do with the EI, has
nothing to do with going against any particular group. It's
actually designed to help all groups. But it has nothing
to do with DEI. There's no DEI policy that I
have to follow anywhere. I don't care if it's a
state policy or a lot which I don't think it
is no one to say at this, but this has

(04:47):
nothing to do with that. This is all about giving
people the opportunity to tell us about things, because there's
a lot of people, like I said, they don't know
where to go. They're out there on the street, you know,
they're a victim of something, and they could you know,
get into one of these businesses that they're participating and say, hey,
can you get a deputy over to helping This is
all about helping people. There's no agenda, there's no specifics

(05:11):
about you know, going against any policy or any particular group.
It's for help Help ht LP.

Speaker 1 (05:20):
So this is not so, this is not so. This
is not despite the rainbow badge, which we know that
the LGBTQ community has kind of taken over the has
taken over the rainbow in you know, recent I guess
in the last decade or two. So people see that
and they might automatically think LGBTQ solely. But basically, if
I understand what you're saying correctly, this isn't really as

(05:43):
it's set up just for LGBTQ members. If somebody is
a Jew and they feel like they've been they have
a you know, hate crime against them, and they're they're
concerned if somebody's Muslim, if somebody you know, whatever it be.

Speaker 2 (05:55):
Is that the case, Yeah, absolutely, I just happened to
think that was a catchy bill, little little logo there
with the rainbow over the star. Uh instinctive. So, you know,
people can make what they want to out of it.
It doesn't matter what we do as an agency. You know,
people can have their own agenda, but our agenda is

(06:19):
helping people keep people safe, give them the opportunity to
touch base with us.

Speaker 1 (06:26):
Okay, Yeah, I mean that's you know, and that those
are some of the concerns that we you know, that
that we had gotten is essentially, you know, are they
super serving one one type of you know, members of
society versus others? And this is a grant. I'm assuming
that does any taxpayer money go towards this at all
this effort?

Speaker 2 (06:47):
I don't think so. Okay, but I don't know all
the intricacies of the grant, but usually that does. That's
not the case.

Speaker 1 (06:56):
All right, anything else about this before we go on
to another topic?

Speaker 2 (07:00):
No, No, I mean the thing about it is is,
you know, We're not forcing any business to get involved
with us. This is strictly a voluntary thing. If they
want to, that's fine. If they don't, that's also fine.
But you know, like I said, anything that we could
give to the public that gives them the opportunity to
get in touch with us right when maybe they don't

(07:22):
have another avenue is a good thing. And if people
don't think that's a good thing, then there's something wrong
with Yeah.

Speaker 1 (07:30):
And you know, you've you've talked about with the illegal
immigrants and and and I've kind of touched base with
you before on this, so I don't want to beat
it over the head. But you know you've said, listen,
if you're not here, as you know, doing other crimes
other than you know, coming into the country illegally, you
don't have anything to worry about. You should go shopping
and you know, send your kids to school, et cetera,

(07:50):
et cetera. Absolutely is there is the impetus behind that message. Essentially,
you don't want people who are here illegally to feel
like they're not comfortable coming to you. If there was
a crime committed, maybe they could be a witness or whatnot.

Speaker 2 (08:05):
Not every bit of human trafficking involves illegals, but a
significant them out of it does illegal young girls, right,
and sometimes they don't know where to go, have a
place to turn. They can walk into one of these
places and say, listen, you know, I'm a victim of
human trafficking. You know, I want somebody to help me.
We're not we're not looking to go after people that

(08:30):
are here illegally, that are not criminals and are not
committing crimes. That's not my job. My job is to
get rid of the gang members, the car tell people,
the drug dealers, the people that are in the neighborhoods
that are bad people. That's what this is about. That's
why that. Would you hear people say mass deportation. No, no,

(08:53):
it's targeted, targeted deportation after the bad guys. There were
just a news thing today out in Virginia. Three hundred
and forty gang members were taken out of the system.
Those weren't like people that go to work every day.
We're not going to people's homes, knock on our doors,
go to businesses and say if we want to check
all your people, or go out to the agriculture area

(09:16):
and you know, ask the farmers how many people you
got work in here illegally. That's not what this is about.
This is about trying to make neighborhoods safe.

Speaker 1 (09:24):
Well, there was a story, I think it's today or
yesterday about a kid out of West Palm, a twelve
year old whose father was a Guatemalan illegal. According to
the Guatemalan Maya Center, the father had was not a
criminal illegal. In other words, somebody you're describing that was
wanted for other crimes or had committed other violent crimes perhaps,

(09:47):
But he was deported and the son was left here alone,
and Guatemala and Maya Center got involved and ended up
sending the son to be with his father in Guatemala.
So I guess, I mean, why would that happen that
somebody if that is the case, again, this is the
word of the folks at the Guatemal and Maya Center.
Doesn't necessarily mean it's true. But if you know, how,

(10:08):
how is it possible that folks that are here illegally
but not committing other crimes, as you're saying, that's all
that's really being sought after right now, how is it
possible that somebody else might be deported?

Speaker 2 (10:20):
That's a question only ice can answer. See, I'm not
in control of ICE. I don't supervise them. So if
they have a reason to go and detain somebody that's
illegally and get them deported, that's totally in their purview.
The only thing we would do is if they call
and said, hey, you know, we have this person in

(10:42):
custody and we need them transported to the county jail,
you know, so we could get them transported to another facility,
then that's what I do, all right, But I don't
control what they do or how they do it. That's
strictly an immigration Customs enforcement issue. So why they would
do that, couldn't tell you. But we wouldn't do it

(11:06):
and didn't do it. You know, we had somebody to
call the other day, said, hey, I got a video
on my phone. There's a deputy that stopped the guy
walking down the street, picked him up and took him
to the county jail. And you said that wasn't going
to happen. Well, what they didn't know was ICE had
called us and said that's the guy we're looking for,
you know, hold on to him till we get there.

Speaker 1 (11:27):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (11:27):
I have to assist of the law enforcement agencies and in.

Speaker 1 (11:30):
A case like that you had about In a case
like that, one might assume that there's something, you know,
that they want him for other than just being here illegally, Joel.

Speaker 2 (11:38):
This happens all the time. People see the last ten
seconds of the video and don't know what the other
two or three minutes prior to it it's happening, was
all about. All they see is the last part of it,
and they make an assumption. Happens all the time.

Speaker 1 (11:54):
Speaking of illegal immigration, some of the stuff you're talking
about here, you might be sharing it in immigration symposium.
Come up on Thursday, April tenth. Tell me about it.

Speaker 2 (12:03):
Yes, you know, I've been trying to get to as
many local groups as I can to talk about it
because we understand their concerns. But you know, number one,
it's impossible. As dude number two, I don't have all
that time. So we're going to hold a huge symposium
over at the Airport Hilton on April the tenth. I
think it's eleven o'clock and we're inviting you know, all

(12:26):
citizen groups, anybody that has concerns, anybody that's in the community,
that has community groups or leadership to come there and
you know, we we we may have three or four
hundred people, which is good because then they can hear
it from me firsthand. If they have questions, they can ask,
but they will understand exactly which way the Sheriff's Office

(12:48):
is going and hopefully eliminate their concerns because I understand,
you know, they're watching all these news things. You know,
the news has a way to hypen it up and
you know, scare them. You know, they're going to schools
to take kids out of school. That's that's farther from
the truth. So we're just we're just trying to make
sure that people feel comfortable.

Speaker 1 (13:07):
Now this is your you're inviting. I'm sorry, what kind
of group just I mean immigration advocate groups or what?

Speaker 2 (13:13):
What about anybody that wants to come, is welcome to come?

Speaker 1 (13:19):
And what what if you got what if you got
a question like this and I've heard this said, you
know you talk about, uh, well, we're only looking for
illegal immigrants that are not committing crimes. But people would say,
you know, well, their kids are taking a you know,
a seat in class away from a citizen child. Uh,

(13:40):
you know, they're getting some benefits that affordable housing, they're
getting affordable housing that could otherwise go to a local
US citizen. What would you what would your answer be
to that?

Speaker 2 (13:53):
That? It's not that's not my position to dictate that
that that's that's federal people, that's customers, a border patrol,
that's the federal government, and I don't have any control
over that at all whatsoever. All I do is enforce
the laws. What's what I'm going to do.

Speaker 1 (14:10):
So if Tom Holman and Ice, you know, decide at
some point to say, you know, we we need you
to now, you know, start helping us round up illegal
immigrants that are not quote unquote criminal illegals, do you
you know, what do you do?

Speaker 2 (14:24):
We're not going to go on a round up. Now
if they if they do it and have people in
custody and they need us to transport them, well then
that's that's different. That's after the fact, all right. But
I'm not going to be part of this roundup.

Speaker 1 (14:38):
Okay, all right, all right? So the symposium is where
again Airport Hilton, the Airport Hilton and how does how
do they sign up? They go to the Sheriff's website.

Speaker 2 (14:50):
They don't have to sign up. All you have to
do is show up.

Speaker 1 (14:53):
Okay, I didn't know if that, you know, there was
a maximum amount and.

Speaker 2 (14:55):
Then where No, we got room for about nine hundred people,
so we're we're good.

Speaker 1 (15:01):
And what is the time do you know? Eleven o'clock,
eleven am? All right, that's what is it. How long
do you think it's supposed to last?

Speaker 2 (15:09):
It'll probably last maybe hour hour and a half.

Speaker 1 (15:12):
Okay, all right, nice way to spend your lunch.

Speaker 2 (15:14):
I guess well, you know what, it's important for people
to feel comfortable. And I know that there's some people
out there that you know, are getting bad information, they're
getting scared, and you know, I don't blame them, and
we're just trying to make sure that their comfort level
is a lot better than it is. And here directly
from me, not a third party.

Speaker 1 (15:36):
Okay, all right, well anything else for me before we know.

Speaker 2 (15:40):
That'll be good. I appreciate it.

Speaker 1 (15:41):
All right, Well, I appreciate you, you know, talking about
these these topics obviously very important stuff here, and and
you know, communities on all sides are have their own
concerns obviously about about everything, so we like to address
those and we appreciate you being available.

Speaker 2 (15:57):
All right, thank you, and I appreciate the fact that
you do that all right.

Speaker 1 (16:01):
Palm Beach County Chef Rick Bradshaw for protecting the Palm Beaches.
Thank you.
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