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So let's just get started with a little There's some
longer formed subjects I want to get to in a minute,
but I want to get through just some some news
that's been breaking over the past couple of days that
I didn't get to on the weekday program that I
want to. I want to get off my chest and
make sure I get out there and you're able to
hear what I think about it, because I know you
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care deeply about what I care about things. Nobody else does,
but at least you do. So there's this global Islamic
missionary network and I don't know how the hell pronounce it.
It sounds like some sort of you know, tagleoni that
you'd order at an Italian restaurant, but it's not. That's
not what it is. Tablie Jamat. Have you ever ordered
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any Toblige Jamat at a restaurant? I mean I haven't.
It's established a headquarters in Garland, Texas. Garland's off far
from Dallas, suburb out near Dallas. It's considered a gateway
like kind of like a gateway drugs. It's a gateway
to extremist activities according to different intelligence agencies. Obviously the
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CIA and DHS and others think it's exactly that. So
Tablik Jamont, a South Asian based movement, it's got followers
all over the world, is linked to the association, the
Islamic Association of Arabic which we located from Louisiana, so
that they're kind of moving around the new headquarters this
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Masheid Yassin Mosque. And I know I'm probably bastardizing these names.
You try it, you go do it. I bet you
can't do any better than I can. Anyway, was established
in Garland, Texas fourteen years ago. We're just now learning
about it. Well I'll get to that in a minute.
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But intelligence, intelligence and nationalsteecurity officials say that a recruiting
ground for al Qaeda, an at, a chamber to terrorism,
and a trojan horse for Islamic conquest is exactly what
this thing is doing. So here's where we are, Garland, Texas.
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Everybody thinks of Texas. We shouldn't be you know what,
we shouldn't be surprised by any of This is the
point I want to make is that underneath our very noses,
I have for years well, for years, ever since I
was the under Secretary of Full of Mansecurity, always been
concerned about sleeper cells. A sleeper cell is is what
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attacked us on nine to eleven. Prior to nine to eleven,
for years before nine to eleven, there were groups Al
Qaeda groups that came into this country as clean skins.
Once again, some came here illegally, some came legally. Some
were in involved actually hijacking the planes on nine to eleven,
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others were not. And I could not tell you either
based on intel that I got in briefings twenty years ago,
or based on publicly available information that I have access
to today, or versus what people still within the intelligence
intelligence community have told me today or not. I cannot
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tell you for certainty whether we've gotten all of them
or not. Here's what I do know. I deduced from
everything that people have told me, the sleeper steals, sleeper
sales still exist in this country. Now. When I talk
about clean skins, what do I mean? A clean skin
is somebody that has no criminal record, they have no
known ties to any terrorist organization. They're recruited generally overseas,
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although they can be recruited in this country even more
so today than they were, say twenty years ago. But
they get they get recruited. They they're they're working at Walmart,
or they go to work at Walmart. And I'm not
picking on one. They could be working at a convenience store.
They could be working at a grocery store. But but
they come here and and they get a job, or
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maybe they don't get a job. But oftentimes they have
no visible means of support. They live in an apartment complex,
could be in Texas, could be in California, could be anywhere.
Somebody else pays the rent. The rent always gets paid
on time, the utilities always get paid. Nothing, there's nothing
to draw any attention to them whatsoever. Last night, my
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wife and I are watching this series on Amazon called Bosh.
It's about a detective in Los Angeles. It's been around
for several years. Well this is the final season. We
were watching it last night, and there's there're these gang
bangers that are what's called follow and rob. They will
they'll go to a restaurant and a woman will sit
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down in a restaurant, eat by herself, and she'll walk,
she'll she'll she'll scam the entire restaurant and she will
zone in on what appears to be a wealthy couple eating.
She looks at the purses, she looks at the jewelry,
she looks at the watches, she looks at the food
they're ordering. She's able to ascertain that, oh, this is
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a wealthy coupy. The couple, they probably have lots of
credit cards, they got cash on them, they got jewelry,
expensive watches. She's got a a Dirk in bag, She's
got whatever she might have that is of value. And
so they watch. And then when that couple leaves, she
also pays for her check, calls no attention to herself.
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They get in the car and they follow the couple home.
And when the couple pulls into the garage or pulls
into the driveway, whatever they do, they jump out and
they rob them. And they're doing this well. She got
stopped later on in the program, I don't I'm not
giving away any you know, whether you watch it or not,
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I don't care, makes a good point for the story.
She gets stopped for rolling through a stop sign, and
she gets a ticket for it. The cops that stop
her are just curious about, you know, why she in
this neighborhood. Are they profiling? They may or may not
be profiling. You can make your own judgment. But uh,
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the car is not registering her name, so of course
that raises a flag, like you know who owns this car?
And of course now they're looking at the registration, so
they asked the question, uh, is this your car? To
see if she answers truthfully and then oh no, she says,
it belongs to a friend of mine. Oh, what's the
friend of your name? Your friend's name, because they're looking
at the title the registration, so they know the name,
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so they're curious whether or not she knows the name,
and she hesitates, but she does. But when she gets
back to her group, she said, look, we got to move.
We got to move our territory because I got stopped.
And you know that that alone was enough of a
red flag. Well, these clean Skins do everything to have
avoid any indication, any attention whatsoever by cops, because, whether
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it may be something as simple as rolling through a
stop sign, not coming to a complete stop and getting
a traffic ticket, you're now in the system, and just
being in system makes them nervous. Well, let's go back
to Garland. Texas. They're now hosting this new headquarters of
Tebligi Jamatt, this global Islami's missionary network that the intelligence
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community says as a potential entry point for those who
want to commit jihad in this country. This network is
known as the Army of Darkness. They've set up operations
inside the Magine Yassin Mosque in Garland, which now serves
as the nerve center for all their American operations following
their relocation of Louisiana. I don't know why they moved
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from Louisiana. I don't really care. It could be something
as simple as something drew their attention from law enforcement
or the FBI, and so they moved to Texas. There
is there's a book that's probably maybe ten years old
now called No go Zones, in which the author talks
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a lot about how these Islamist groups like to create
no go zones. They can be either very blatant, very
open about it, or they can very be very discreet
about it. So operating away from any sort of public scrutiny,
this group, all of these groups, with this one in particular,
shuns any political agendas that might foster long term societal
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domination through religious transformation internally, what's their objective? We'll tell
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welcome back to the Weekend with Michael Brown. Glad to
have you with me. No, I can't throw at ink
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work in a fairly long well studio. It's got three
microphones in it. Obviously it's such a control room behind
the glass. But this is what's called a production studio,
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and I like working in the production studio because it's well,
one is just me and obviously Michael, my producers in
Los Angeles, so we can't see each other anyway, Thank goodness.
I don't have to look at him and he doesn't
have to look at me, and I'm sure he feels
happy about that. But it's just more intimate. I just
feel a little more cozy in here, so I use
a different studio on Saturdays. As if anybody in Alaska
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might care about that, I just thought i'd let them know.
So let's go back to this group. So yes, I
thought the group that I originally thought of on that
I talked a little bit on the weekday was from Plano.
This is a different group that's in Garland. This is
an entirely different group. Now. They operate as much as
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they can away from any sort of public scrutiny, and
they shun any political agendas that are outward that might
you know that someone might look at something they're doing
and say, oh, that's all political. What they're doing is
they're fostering these long term societal dominations through religious transformations
that they do internally with these recruits. They're objective. Now,
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this group is linked remember the San Bernardino Taro attack
in twenty fifteen. Remember that one. This group is linked
to that group. Their objective is the global implementation of
sharia law, while at the same time, within their group
disregarding existing legal systems. So whether they're in Texas, whether
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they're in San Bernardino, they're in Plano, they're in Garland,
they're in Oklahoma City, they're in Kansas. Wherever they are
doesn't make any difference. They operate within their own legal system.
So members of this mosque, of this group are subject
to Now obviously they're still studying, you know, they get
in a car and they go driving drunk, which would
be kind of interesting for a Muslim. But if they
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go do that, then obviously they're going to get arrested
for drunk driving and they'll have to face the consequences.
But anything related to their interpersonal actions with each other, marriage, divorce, assaults, battery,
whatever it might be, they impose their own legal system
within our legal system, completely unacceptable. They disregard everything about
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free speech, they disregard everything about democratic governance. So now
with these mosques and these so called missionary centers now
expanding all through various parts of Texas, McKenny Plain, Old Garland,
wherever it might be, they continue this quiet, yet strategic growth,
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and we don't do anything about it. So what we're
doing is we've essentially allowed this country to become a
garden for these clean skins to grow up right under
our noses, and we don't do anything. Now you may say,
well wait a minute, Michael, but if they don't break
any laws. If they don't do, then what are we
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supposed to do? Well, they gets back to the idea
that if they came here on a visa and we
know that this is what their objectives are and what
they're doing, then I say to port their asses, get
them out of here. There is no right to stay here. Now.
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We can make an argue. Anybody can argue. In fact,
I take the position that in the case of these organizations,
they're not entitled to do process. They lied on their
visas to get here, and then they lied about their purpose.
So the Department of State and Mark Rubio agrees with this.
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They're not entitled to due process, and we can revoke
the visa and take them out. Now, if some judge
somewhere decides that, you know, they're entitled in some sort
of hearing, then we can fight that in the court.
But we could still proceed to deport them, kind of
like we did with the Venezuelans that we sent to
Al Salador. Where the hell we sent them to. Now, critics,
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I don't mean critics of us, but critics of this
group describe their methods as secretive. There's no formal leadership
structure that anyway has made public. They prohibit transparency by
avoiding the media completely, there's no organizational scrutiny. They stress
the movement's global event gatherings, such as those in Pakistan.
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They emphasize the historical links to known terrorist activities that alone,
under the Alien Act allows us to remove them. All
that contributes to concerns over all, the indoctrination efforts that
are going on that could spread extremism. We are be
there is a cancer in this society, and for some reason,
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we just don't want to admit it's there. It's refusing
to it's refusing to get a colonoscopy, it's refusing to
get an MRI. It's this refusal to look like, you know,
I got this pain over here, I got this really
kind of I got this lump over here, but I'm
just going to ignore it. It's right in our faces
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in this The intelligence community believes that despite the group's
claims of being a political that they're really acting as
some sort of clandestine platform supporting all these extremist ideologies. France,
Saudi Arabia, they've actually now think about this France and
Saudi Arabia, not exactly what what I would call depellors
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of democracy, have taken measures to actually cur the activities
of organizations like this, and they actually directly associate this
organization with their own domestic security threats. But in this country,
the network operates with almost no examination, no restriction. And
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but for a few outlets that I mean, these really
specialized kind of intelligence forums that I'm parts of, and
you know, conversations with friends in DC and stuff, it
just doesn't get enough, does not get enough public attention.
Counter terrorism experts, many of whom have said publicly, suggest
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actions such as demanding financial transparency like how are you
getting funded, where's your funding coming from? Assessing foreign affiliations
of these entities, all of which just if nothing else,
to ensure some community awareness and some security efficacy about
what we're going to do with these groups. The idea
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that we just allow them to operate with impunity and
not do anything to at least a minimum surveil them.
But if all we do is surveil, what are we
going to do? React only after they take IEDs or
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suicide bombers into a mall we react after the fact. No,
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Speaker 2 (17:50):
Michael Brown joins me here, the former FEMA director of
talk show host Michael Brown.
Speaker 1 (17:53):
Brownie, no, Brownie, You're doing a heck of a job
the Weekend with Michael Brown. Hey, thanks for listening to
the Weekend with Michael Brown. Glad to have you with me.
I appreciate you tuning in. I'm talking about this group
in Garland, Texas. But before we get back to that,
I just have one quick comment to make about that.
Then we're going to move on. For those of you
who follow me on X. In the last segment, this
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nutjob that listens to me, he's I'd be calling a goober,
but he's not really a gouber. He's a nutjob, total nutjob. Anyway, listen,
he's listening up in Alaska right now. And he he
sent me a text message and said, oh, so it
really is. You really are in the closet on the weekend. Yeah,
in the weekend, I stay in the closet. Anyway, if
you follow me on x at Michael Brown USA. I
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just posted a photo of the closet that I work
in on the weekend, So if you want to see that,
you follow me on x at Michael Brown USA. Tell me,
tell me how I could improve the ambiance of the
of the studio. But you'll find out. You'll find all
the necessities obviously, I've got I've got a U I've
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got a board, I've got my uh well, I think
you can see all my computer screens, plus my laptop.
I've got my diet coke and got a bag of
salted peanuts here. I got my phone, I got my backpack, laptop,
I got my chair. I'm ready to go. What more?
What more could you ask for? So back to this group.
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If you listen to the a c l U, the
American Civil Liberties Union, if you listen to Judge Bosberg
and some of the others, they make the argument that
all of these people are entitled to do process. Now,
because I'm a lawyer, I can I can argue both
sides of this. But in this particular case, when you
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have someone who is a legitimate as determined by the
President of the United States of America, acting through either
the intelligence community, whether that's the c i A, the
d i A, the n s A, or anybody else,
and the Secretary of State. Your visa is a permission slip.
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That's it. That's all it is, is a permission slip.
If if I go to and let's let's let's pick
a country that would at least be as close to
us as I could possibly get it, which is kind
of scary when I think about that. Let's let's think
about either Australia or the United Kingdom if I were required.
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And those aren't really good examples because I don't Let's
use Japan. No, I don't need. I don't need. I'm
trying to think of a country I need to go
to or I need a visa, but I'm looking for
a kind of a Western dement. Let's just pretend for
a moment that I need a visa to go to Japan.
So I I go to the Japanese embassy, or I,
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you know, somehow online through the Japanese embassy, I get
a tourist visa, or maybe I get a student visa.
I don't know. If I get a visa and I
I lie on the visa, because what I really want
to do. Is I want to go to Japan because
I know I can do because the train that you know,
the trains are so jam packed. Uh, whether you're well,
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not so much in the countryside, but if you're trying
to go let's say from Tokyo to Kiyota, and you're
on one of the high speed rails, you're on the Shinkinson, well,
if you're on the train, they're really pretty packed, particularly
in the cities as some of the commuters are using
them using them. So I'm really going for the purpose
of pickpucking, pickpucketing, I'm going to rob people, or maybe
I'm a terrorist organization, or I just commit a crime.
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Of course, if I commit a crime, I'm probably going
to be adjudicated and found guilty and thrown in a
Japanese jail. But if I just do something that's against
their national security, you think they're going to say, well,
you know, let's let's just you go about your business
and here's an order to appear in an immigration court,
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you know, thirty days from now. And no they're gonna
send me home. They're gonna they're gonna take me out
to Narie then put me on a plane and send
me right back to the United States. Marco Rubio points
out exactly the same thing. If I can get it
to play, that's.
Speaker 2 (22:13):
An F one visa. I believe we revoked it, and
here's why. And I'll say it again. I said it everywhere.
Let me be abundantly clear. Okay, if you go apply
for a visa right now anywhere in the world, let
me just send this message out. If you apply for
a visa to enter the United States and be a student,
and you tell us that the reason why you're coming
to the United States is not just because you want
to write op eds, because you want to participate in
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movements that are involved in doing things like vandalizing universities,
harassing students, taking over buildings, creating a ruckus. We're not
going to give you a visa. If you lie to
us and get a visa and then enter the United
States and with that visa participate in that sort of activity,
We're going to take away your visa. And once you've
lost your visa, you're no longer legally in the United States.
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And we have a right, like every country in the
world has a right to remove you from our country.
So it's just that simple. I think it's crazy. I
think it's stupid for any country in the world to
welcome people into their country. They're going to go to
your universities as visitors. They're visitors and say, I'm going
to your universities to start a riot. I'm going to
your universities to take over a library and harass people.
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I don't care what movement you're involved in. Why would
any country in the world. They'll have people to come
and disrupt. Now, we gave you a visa to come
and study and get a degree, not to become a
social activist that tears up our university campuses. And if
we've given you a visa and then you decide to
do that, we're going to take it away. I encourage
every country to do that, by the way, because I
think it's crazy to invite students into your country that
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are coming onto your campus and destabilizing it. We're just
not going to have it. So we'll revoke your visa.
And once your visa's revoked, you're illegally in the country
and you have to leave. Every country in the world
has a right to decide who comes in as a
visitor and who doesn't. If you invite me into your
home because you say I want to come to your
house for dinner. And I go to your house and
I start putting mud on your couch and spray painting
your kitchen. I bet you you're going to kick me
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out to do the same thing. If you come into
the United States as a visitor and create a ruckus
for us, we don't want it. We don't want it
in our country. Go back and do it in your country,
but you're not going to do it in our country.
Speaker 1 (24:08):
You're not going to do it in our country. We
don't want people causing a ruckus in this country. Well
let's go back to Plano, Garland, San Bernardino, everywhere else.
What's the purpose? Why are they here? And I'll certainly
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give the Trump administration time because we've let this go
on literally since before nine to eleven. Nine to eleven
was well, we're coming up on the twenty fourth anniversary
of it, twenty four years. So it happened. It happened.
It's been happening for a quarter of a century or
more that we've been allowing this to occur. If if
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you've ever had the opportunity to to read the book
one second after you would understand that at any moment,
any of these sales can be activated, and once they're activated,
they can create havoc that could literally bring down our economy,
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literally bring down our economy, and we're allowing them to
grow in this country. And so, yes, whatever the Secretary
of Homelandsecurity is doing, whatever the Secretary of State is doing,
whatever Tom Holman the borders are is doing. I think
that's why you see a majority of vast majority, like
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two thirds or more, seventy three fourths or more of
American support this kind of removal of getting these people
out of the country. Those who would sit there and
argue that somehow we're violating their due process rights. You know,
if you if you commit a crime under our constitution,
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you're entitled to, you know, do both substantive and procedural
due process. You are here on American soil. But if
you gain access to American soil illegally, then your due
process rights aren't quite as great as they are if
you as if you came here legally. Plus, once you
have committed a crime, what is the process by which
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we solve that crime? Now, in this case, you've got
you're you're here on a visa. That visa can be revoked,
and the Secretary of State can and has been revoking
the visas. Now, if you're already engaged in criminal activity,
I say just send you out. Just you're gone. You're
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a you're a threat to national security Americans, we're going
to treat differently. And and someone you know, for example,
let let's say that someone's here on a student visa
and they commit a murder. I don't want them to
port it. I want them to stand trial in the
court of competent jurisdiction, whatever jurisdiction that might be, whether
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it's in New York or it's in Colorado or anywhere else.
I want them tried, and I want them to receive
a fair trial. And then if they are convicted, then
I'm of two minds. Once they're convicted, do we keep
them in jail and feed them and house them for
the rest of their lives, or do we send them
back as a convicted criminal to their home country. Now,
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I'll let you decide, and maybe that would be decided
on a case by case basis. But if what we're
doing right now is insane, the fact that I'm talking
to a nationwide audience and telling you about what's going
on in Plano, in Garland and everywhere else in the
intelligence community knows about it. I will grant you they
may be doing things that obviously we're not aware of,
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and then obviously I'm not cleared to know about, and
I certainly hope that they are. But don't let the
radical that's redundant. Don't let the left convince you that
somehow we have to treat these people differently, that somehow
they're entitled to all of the rights to do process,
that they're entitled to everything as if they were an
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American citizen. No, they are not. Send them home. It's
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The Los Angeles Times has initiated a lawsuit against the
City of Los Angeles, including Mayor Karen Bass, accusing the
city and the mayor of illegally withholding and destroying public records.
What why are they always doing this? No, I refuse
(29:43):
to wade into the signal story right now, But the
signal story is a little along the same lines. If
you want to communicate and you're a government official, and
you believe it's sensitive or it's classified information, then there
are ways to do that. If it's not, then we
as taxpayers are entitled to know what you're talking about,
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what you're doing, how you're making decisions, and we're entitled
all of that stuff. They're withholding public records. They're destroying
public records, including text messages from Mayor Bass. Now the
action was taken on Thursday. It stems from all the
fires that occurred starting back in January, remember the January fires. Yeah,
(30:28):
and aims to what they're doing is they're really challenging
the city's position on the public records law. And I
think that what the LA Times is doing is exactly
right here. In the wake of the fires, the Time
sought all the communications between the mayor and all the
officials she dealt with. But then suddenly they found this
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resistance in which the city was arguing that they were
not obliged to comply with state public record laws. So
the City of Los Angeles decides that, oh yeah, so
there is the California Open Records Act and it applies
to you know, all government entities within the state of California.
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But LA decided, you know, a Los Angeles, we're so special,
we don't have to comply with it. Now, think of
the precedent that that would set, that that suggests that
local officials, in particular here Los Angeles could just delete
records at will. The LA Times writes this when this
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is from Kelly Avel's, the outside council for the Los
Angeles Times. It's bigger than these text messages. She says.
The city seems to believe that they can destroy whatever
they want, whenever they want, and that they don't have
a duty to the public to retain public records. Now,
I know this is a story about Los Angeles, but
(31:55):
I guarante him to you. I can find a similar
story in almost every state, in every almost every large city.
There was one in Colorado popped up. Just when was this?
This is always all I thought? It was longer than that.
It's just last week, in which a woman was trying
to get information from a library in El Paso County,
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which is a county just south of where I'm sitting.
It's where Colorado Springs is the county seat in which
she was asking for information about the budget. She sought
all communications, including but not limited to emails, text messages,
internal memorandum between this library board, the CEO and the CFO,
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and the landlords and the property managers for the least
properties that were leased by this library board. They sent
her a bill, Well, they didn't send her a bill.
They said, okay, if you want these records, they originally
estimated twenty five thousand dollars. Okay, it seems extensive that
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that seems a little bit. But then when they actually
calculated what it would cost to get those records, the
bill was actually twenty five million, to be precise, twllion,
three hundred and seventy seven nine and seventy one dollars
and forty three cents. I guess that's kind of like
finding out when Doze found out that all the retirement
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records for federal employees were in an iron mountain cave
somewhere in West Virginia, and there is like four hundred
million pages of paper. It's absurd. What's even more absurd,
which does not get enough coverage, is how constantly government
officials are trying to keep from the public, to keep
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from the taxpayers, all of their communications. You know, I
will swerve into the signal controversy just a little bit,
because we had the same thing occur in Colorado, where
the mayor in Colorado, his lawyers in Washington, d C.
Even the city of attorney and his staff, the chief
of staff and everybody were using some sort of encrypted
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I don't know whether it was signal or something else
to talk about his testimony before Congress. We're entitled to
that information. Now. What started this was the LA Times
discovered that the mayor's messages were set to auto delete
after thirty days, which is a lot shorter than the
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two year retention period stipulated not just by the California
state law but by Los Angeles' own city rules. Now,
although the LA Times did get some messages, and some
others that they had deleted were somehow miraculously recovered and
(34:49):
shared with The Times, there's still others that remain undisclosed,
and of course the stereotypical redaction of, you know, making
sure that you're blackout so you can't see, you know,
which is fine. I don't care about having someone's personal
cell phone number or the social Security number, but I
would like to know their name, and if they're communicating
with city officials, I think I'm entitled to know their names.
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There is this battle going on, just like you go
back to the first part of the hour and we
talk about these groups that are hiding under our noses
and people aren't reporting on it, And then when reporters
actually do try to do a little bit of journalism.
I'm not a huge fan of the La Times. I
(35:34):
do think the new owner of the La Times is
trying to turn it around, and I'm wish him well.
But when a newspaper tries to get information under the
California Public Records Act or the Colorado Open Records Act
or wherever you might live and they start balking, don't
you wonder what they're hiding, what do they not want
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you to see, and why don't they want you to
see it? And then beyond that, think about the arrogance,
the very arrogance. You know, when you'll probably get a
paycheck sing if you haven't already for the end of
the month, at least I hope you do, or if
you're retired, you'll eventually get a pension check or a
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Social Security check. You're paying the bills for these people.
They're public servants. We're entitled to know. It's the weekend
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So let's just get started with a little There's some
longer formed subjects I want to get to in a minute,
but I want to get through just some some news
that's been breaking over the past couple of days that
I didn't get to on the weekday program that I
want to. I want to get off my chest and
make sure I get out there and you're able to
hear what I think about it, because I know you
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care deeply about what I care about things. Nobody else does,
but at least you do. So there's this global Islamic
missionary network and I don't know how the hell pronounce it.
It sounds like some sort of you know, tagleoni that
you'd order at an Italian restaurant, but it's not. That's
not what it is. Tablie Jamat. Have you ever ordered
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any Toblige Jamat at a restaurant? I mean I haven't.
It's established a headquarters in Garland, Texas. Garland's off far
from Dallas, suburb out near Dallas. It's considered a gateway
like kind of like a gateway drugs. It's a gateway
to extremist activities according to different intelligence agencies. Obviously the
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CIA and DHS and others think it's exactly that. So
Tablik Jamont, a South Asian based movement, it's got followers
all over the world, is linked to the association, the
Islamic Association of Arabic which we located from Louisiana, so
that they're kind of moving around the new headquarters this
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Masheid Yassin Mosque. And I know I'm probably bastardizing these names.
You try it, you go do it. I bet you
can't do any better than I can. Anyway, was established
in Garland, Texas fourteen years ago. We're just now learning
about it. Well I'll get to that in a minute.
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But intelligence, intelligence and nationalsteecurity officials say that a recruiting
ground for al Qaeda, an at, a chamber to terrorism,
and a trojan horse for Islamic conquest is exactly what
this thing is doing. So here's where we are, Garland, Texas.
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Everybody thinks of Texas. We shouldn't be you know what,
we shouldn't be surprised by any of This is the
point I want to make is that underneath our very noses,
I have for years well, for years, ever since I
was the under Secretary of Full of Mansecurity, always been
concerned about sleeper cells. A sleeper cell is is what
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attacked us on nine to eleven. Prior to nine to eleven,
for years before nine to eleven, there were groups Al
Qaeda groups that came into this country as clean skins.
Once again, some came here illegally, some came legally. Some
were in involved actually hijacking the planes on nine to eleven,
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others were not. And I could not tell you either
based on intel that I got in briefings twenty years ago,
or based on publicly available information that I have access
to today, or versus what people still within the intelligence
intelligence community have told me today or not. I cannot
(04:25):
tell you for certainty whether we've gotten all of them
or not. Here's what I do know. I deduced from
everything that people have told me, the sleeper steals, sleeper
sales still exist in this country. Now. When I talk
about clean skins, what do I mean? A clean skin
is somebody that has no criminal record, they have no
known ties to any terrorist organization. They're recruited generally overseas,
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although they can be recruited in this country even more
so today than they were, say twenty years ago. But
they get they get recruited. They they're they're working at Walmart,
or they go to work at Walmart. And I'm not
picking on one. They could be working at a convenience store.
They could be working at a grocery store. But but
they come here and and they get a job, or
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maybe they don't get a job. But oftentimes they have
no visible means of support. They live in an apartment complex,
could be in Texas, could be in California, could be anywhere.
Somebody else pays the rent. The rent always gets paid
on time, the utilities always get paid. Nothing, there's nothing
to draw any attention to them whatsoever. Last night, my
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wife and I are watching this series on Amazon called Bosh.
It's about a detective in Los Angeles. It's been around
for several years. Well this is the final season. We
were watching it last night, and there's there're these gang
bangers that are what's called follow and rob. They will
they'll go to a restaurant and a woman will sit
(05:55):
down in a restaurant, eat by herself, and she'll walk,
she'll she'll she'll scam the entire restaurant and she will
zone in on what appears to be a wealthy couple eating.
She looks at the purses, she looks at the jewelry,
she looks at the watches, she looks at the food
they're ordering. She's able to ascertain that, oh, this is
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a wealthy coupy. The couple, they probably have lots of
credit cards, they got cash on them, they got jewelry,
expensive watches. She's got a a Dirk in bag, She's
got whatever she might have that is of value. And
so they watch. And then when that couple leaves, she
also pays for her check, calls no attention to herself.
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They get in the car and they follow the couple home.
And when the couple pulls into the garage or pulls
into the driveway, whatever they do, they jump out and
they rob them. And they're doing this well. She got
stopped later on in the program, I don't I'm not
giving away any you know, whether you watch it or not,
(06:59):
I don't care, makes a good point for the story.
She gets stopped for rolling through a stop sign, and
she gets a ticket for it. The cops that stop
her are just curious about, you know, why she in
this neighborhood. Are they profiling? They may or may not
be profiling. You can make your own judgment. But uh,
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the car is not registering her name, so of course
that raises a flag, like you know who owns this car?
And of course now they're looking at the registration, so
they asked the question, uh, is this your car? To
see if she answers truthfully and then oh no, she says,
it belongs to a friend of mine. Oh, what's the
friend of your name? Your friend's name, because they're looking
at the title the registration, so they know the name,
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so they're curious whether or not she knows the name,
and she hesitates, but she does. But when she gets
back to her group, she said, look, we got to move.
We got to move our territory because I got stopped.
And you know that that alone was enough of a
red flag. Well, these clean Skins do everything to have
avoid any indication, any attention whatsoever by cops, because, whether
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it may be something as simple as rolling through a
stop sign, not coming to a complete stop and getting
a traffic ticket, you're now in the system, and just
being in system makes them nervous. Well, let's go back
to Garland. Texas. They're now hosting this new headquarters of
Tebligi Jamatt, this global Islami's missionary network that the intelligence
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community says as a potential entry point for those who
want to commit jihad in this country. This network is
known as the Army of Darkness. They've set up operations
inside the Magine Yassin Mosque in Garland, which now serves
as the nerve center for all their American operations following
their relocation of Louisiana. I don't know why they moved
(08:49):
from Louisiana. I don't really care. It could be something
as simple as something drew their attention from law enforcement
or the FBI, and so they moved to Texas. There
is there's a book that's probably maybe ten years old
now called No go Zones, in which the author talks
(09:11):
a lot about how these Islamist groups like to create
no go zones. They can be either very blatant, very
open about it, or they can very be very discreet
about it. So operating away from any sort of public scrutiny,
this group, all of these groups, with this one in particular,
shuns any political agendas that might foster long term societal
(09:34):
domination through religious transformation internally, what's their objective? We'll tell
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(09:57):
welcome back to the Weekend with Michael Brown. Glad to
have you with me. No, I can't throw at ink
pen and hit the blinds because there are no blind
in this studio that I work in on Saturdays. I
kind of like the studio. So during the weekday, I
work in a fairly long well studio. It's got three
microphones in it. Obviously it's such a control room behind
the glass. But this is what's called a production studio,
(10:18):
and I like working in the production studio because it's well,
one is just me and obviously Michael, my producers in
Los Angeles, so we can't see each other anyway, Thank goodness.
I don't have to look at him and he doesn't
have to look at me, and I'm sure he feels
happy about that. But it's just more intimate. I just
feel a little more cozy in here, so I use
a different studio on Saturdays. As if anybody in Alaska
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might care about that, I just thought i'd let them know.
So let's go back to this group. So yes, I
thought the group that I originally thought of on that
I talked a little bit on the weekday was from Plano.
This is a different group that's in Garland. This is
an entirely different group. Now. They operate as much as
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they can away from any sort of public scrutiny, and
they shun any political agendas that are outward that might
you know that someone might look at something they're doing
and say, oh, that's all political. What they're doing is
they're fostering these long term societal dominations through religious transformations
that they do internally with these recruits. They're objective. Now,
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this group is linked remember the San Bernardino Taro attack
in twenty fifteen. Remember that one. This group is linked
to that group. Their objective is the global implementation of
sharia law, while at the same time, within their group
disregarding existing legal systems. So whether they're in Texas, whether
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they're in San Bernardino, they're in Plano, they're in Garland,
they're in Oklahoma City, they're in Kansas. Wherever they are
doesn't make any difference. They operate within their own legal system.
So members of this mosque, of this group are subject
to Now obviously they're still studying, you know, they get
in a car and they go driving drunk, which would
be kind of interesting for a Muslim. But if they
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go do that, then obviously they're going to get arrested
for drunk driving and they'll have to face the consequences.
But anything related to their interpersonal actions with each other, marriage, divorce, assaults, battery,
whatever it might be, they impose their own legal system
within our legal system, completely unacceptable. They disregard everything about
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free speech, they disregard everything about democratic governance. So now
with these mosques and these so called missionary centers now
expanding all through various parts of Texas, McKenny Plain, Old Garland,
wherever it might be, they continue this quiet, yet strategic growth,
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and we don't do anything about it. So what we're
doing is we've essentially allowed this country to become a
garden for these clean skins to grow up right under
our noses, and we don't do anything. Now you may say,
well wait a minute, Michael, but if they don't break
any laws. If they don't do, then what are we
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supposed to do? Well, they gets back to the idea
that if they came here on a visa and we
know that this is what their objectives are and what
they're doing, then I say to port their asses, get
them out of here. There is no right to stay here. Now.
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We can make an argue. Anybody can argue. In fact,
I take the position that in the case of these organizations,
they're not entitled to do process. They lied on their
visas to get here, and then they lied about their purpose.
So the Department of State and Mark Rubio agrees with this.
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They're not entitled to due process, and we can revoke
the visa and take them out. Now, if some judge
somewhere decides that, you know, they're entitled in some sort
of hearing, then we can fight that in the court.
But we could still proceed to deport them, kind of
like we did with the Venezuelans that we sent to
Al Salador. Where the hell we sent them to. Now, critics,
(14:23):
I don't mean critics of us, but critics of this
group describe their methods as secretive. There's no formal leadership
structure that anyway has made public. They prohibit transparency by
avoiding the media completely, there's no organizational scrutiny. They stress
the movement's global event gatherings, such as those in Pakistan.
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They emphasize the historical links to known terrorist activities that alone,
under the Alien Act allows us to remove them. All
that contributes to concerns over all, the indoctrination efforts that
are going on that could spread extremism. We are be
there is a cancer in this society, and for some reason,
(15:11):
we just don't want to admit it's there. It's refusing
to it's refusing to get a colonoscopy, it's refusing to
get an MRI. It's this refusal to look like, you know,
I got this pain over here, I got this really
kind of I got this lump over here, but I'm
just going to ignore it. It's right in our faces
(15:33):
in this The intelligence community believes that despite the group's
claims of being a political that they're really acting as
some sort of clandestine platform supporting all these extremist ideologies. France,
Saudi Arabia, they've actually now think about this France and
Saudi Arabia, not exactly what what I would call depellors
(15:55):
of democracy, have taken measures to actually cur the activities
of organizations like this, and they actually directly associate this
organization with their own domestic security threats. But in this country,
the network operates with almost no examination, no restriction. And
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but for a few outlets that I mean, these really
specialized kind of intelligence forums that I'm parts of, and
you know, conversations with friends in DC and stuff, it
just doesn't get enough, does not get enough public attention.
Counter terrorism experts, many of whom have said publicly, suggest
(16:42):
actions such as demanding financial transparency like how are you
getting funded, where's your funding coming from? Assessing foreign affiliations
of these entities, all of which just if nothing else,
to ensure some community awareness and some security efficacy about
what we're going to do with these groups. The idea
(17:05):
that we just allow them to operate with impunity and
not do anything to at least a minimum surveil them.
But if all we do is surveil, what are we
going to do? React only after they take IEDs or
(17:26):
suicide bombers into a mall we react after the fact. No,
surely we're not that stupid. It's the Weekend with Michael Brown.
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Speaker 2 (17:50):
Michael Brown joins me here, the former FEMA director of
talk show host Michael Brown.
Speaker 1 (17:53):
Brownie, no, Brownie, You're doing a heck of a job
the Weekend with Michael Brown. Hey, thanks for listening to
the Weekend with Michael Brown. Glad to have you with me.
I appreciate you tuning in. I'm talking about this group
in Garland, Texas. But before we get back to that,
I just have one quick comment to make about that.
Then we're going to move on. For those of you
who follow me on X. In the last segment, this
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nutjob that listens to me, he's I'd be calling a goober,
but he's not really a gouber. He's a nutjob, total nutjob. Anyway, listen,
he's listening up in Alaska right now. And he he
sent me a text message and said, oh, so it
really is. You really are in the closet on the weekend. Yeah,
in the weekend, I stay in the closet. Anyway, if
you follow me on x at Michael Brown USA. I
(18:41):
just posted a photo of the closet that I work
in on the weekend, So if you want to see that,
you follow me on x at Michael Brown USA. Tell me,
tell me how I could improve the ambiance of the
of the studio. But you'll find out. You'll find all
the necessities obviously, I've got I've got a U I've
(19:02):
got a board, I've got my uh well, I think
you can see all my computer screens, plus my laptop.
I've got my diet coke and got a bag of
salted peanuts here. I got my phone, I got my backpack, laptop,
I got my chair. I'm ready to go. What more?
What more could you ask for? So back to this group.
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If you listen to the a c l U, the
American Civil Liberties Union, if you listen to Judge Bosberg
and some of the others, they make the argument that
all of these people are entitled to do process. Now,
because I'm a lawyer, I can I can argue both
sides of this. But in this particular case, when you
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have someone who is a legitimate as determined by the
President of the United States of America, acting through either
the intelligence community, whether that's the c i A, the
d i A, the n s A, or anybody else,
and the Secretary of State. Your visa is a permission slip.
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That's it. That's all it is, is a permission slip.
If if I go to and let's let's let's pick
a country that would at least be as close to
us as I could possibly get it, which is kind
of scary when I think about that. Let's let's think
about either Australia or the United Kingdom if I were required.
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And those aren't really good examples because I don't Let's
use Japan. No, I don't need. I don't need. I'm
trying to think of a country I need to go
to or I need a visa, but I'm looking for
a kind of a Western dement. Let's just pretend for
a moment that I need a visa to go to Japan.
So I I go to the Japanese embassy, or I,
(20:47):
you know, somehow online through the Japanese embassy, I get
a tourist visa, or maybe I get a student visa.
I don't know. If I get a visa and I
I lie on the visa, because what I really want
to do. Is I want to go to Japan because
I know I can do because the train that you know,
the trains are so jam packed. Uh, whether you're well,
(21:09):
not so much in the countryside, but if you're trying
to go let's say from Tokyo to Kiyota, and you're
on one of the high speed rails, you're on the Shinkinson, well,
if you're on the train, they're really pretty packed, particularly
in the cities as some of the commuters are using
them using them. So I'm really going for the purpose
of pickpucking, pickpucketing, I'm going to rob people, or maybe
I'm a terrorist organization, or I just commit a crime.
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Of course, if I commit a crime, I'm probably going
to be adjudicated and found guilty and thrown in a
Japanese jail. But if I just do something that's against
their national security, you think they're going to say, well,
you know, let's let's just you go about your business
and here's an order to appear in an immigration court,
(21:53):
you know, thirty days from now. And no they're gonna
send me home. They're gonna they're gonna take me out
to Narie then put me on a plane and send
me right back to the United States. Marco Rubio points
out exactly the same thing. If I can get it
to play, that's.
Speaker 2 (22:13):
An F one visa. I believe we revoked it, and
here's why. And I'll say it again. I said it everywhere.
Let me be abundantly clear. Okay, if you go apply
for a visa right now anywhere in the world, let
me just send this message out. If you apply for
a visa to enter the United States and be a student,
and you tell us that the reason why you're coming
to the United States is not just because you want
to write op eds, because you want to participate in
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movements that are involved in doing things like vandalizing universities,
harassing students, taking over buildings, creating a ruckus. We're not
going to give you a visa. If you lie to
us and get a visa and then enter the United
States and with that visa participate in that sort of activity,
We're going to take away your visa. And once you've
lost your visa, you're no longer legally in the United States.
(22:54):
And we have a right, like every country in the
world has a right to remove you from our country.
So it's just that simple. I think it's crazy. I
think it's stupid for any country in the world to
welcome people into their country. They're going to go to
your universities as visitors. They're visitors and say, I'm going
to your universities to start a riot. I'm going to
your universities to take over a library and harass people.
(23:16):
I don't care what movement you're involved in. Why would
any country in the world. They'll have people to come
and disrupt. Now, we gave you a visa to come
and study and get a degree, not to become a
social activist that tears up our university campuses. And if
we've given you a visa and then you decide to
do that, we're going to take it away. I encourage
every country to do that, by the way, because I
think it's crazy to invite students into your country that
(23:37):
are coming onto your campus and destabilizing it. We're just
not going to have it. So we'll revoke your visa.
And once your visa's revoked, you're illegally in the country
and you have to leave. Every country in the world
has a right to decide who comes in as a
visitor and who doesn't. If you invite me into your
home because you say I want to come to your
house for dinner. And I go to your house and
I start putting mud on your couch and spray painting
your kitchen. I bet you you're going to kick me
(23:58):
out to do the same thing. If you come into
the United States as a visitor and create a ruckus
for us, we don't want it. We don't want it
in our country. Go back and do it in your country,
but you're not going to do it in our country.
Speaker 1 (24:08):
You're not going to do it in our country. We
don't want people causing a ruckus in this country. Well
let's go back to Plano, Garland, San Bernardino, everywhere else.
What's the purpose? Why are they here? And I'll certainly
(24:29):
give the Trump administration time because we've let this go
on literally since before nine to eleven. Nine to eleven
was well, we're coming up on the twenty fourth anniversary
of it, twenty four years. So it happened. It happened.
It's been happening for a quarter of a century or
more that we've been allowing this to occur. If if
(24:54):
you've ever had the opportunity to to read the book
one second after you would understand that at any moment,
any of these sales can be activated, and once they're activated,
they can create havoc that could literally bring down our economy,
(25:15):
literally bring down our economy, and we're allowing them to
grow in this country. And so, yes, whatever the Secretary
of Homelandsecurity is doing, whatever the Secretary of State is doing,
whatever Tom Holman the borders are is doing. I think
that's why you see a majority of vast majority, like
(25:37):
two thirds or more, seventy three fourths or more of
American support this kind of removal of getting these people
out of the country. Those who would sit there and
argue that somehow we're violating their due process rights. You know,
if you if you commit a crime under our constitution,
(26:00):
you're entitled to, you know, do both substantive and procedural
due process. You are here on American soil. But if
you gain access to American soil illegally, then your due
process rights aren't quite as great as they are if
you as if you came here legally. Plus, once you
have committed a crime, what is the process by which
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we solve that crime? Now, in this case, you've got
you're you're here on a visa. That visa can be revoked,
and the Secretary of State can and has been revoking
the visas. Now, if you're already engaged in criminal activity,
I say just send you out. Just you're gone. You're
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a you're a threat to national security Americans, we're going
to treat differently. And and someone you know, for example,
let let's say that someone's here on a student visa
and they commit a murder. I don't want them to
port it. I want them to stand trial in the
court of competent jurisdiction, whatever jurisdiction that might be, whether
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it's in New York or it's in Colorado or anywhere else.
I want them tried, and I want them to receive
a fair trial. And then if they are convicted, then
I'm of two minds. Once they're convicted, do we keep
them in jail and feed them and house them for
the rest of their lives, or do we send them
back as a convicted criminal to their home country. Now,
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I'll let you decide, and maybe that would be decided
on a case by case basis. But if what we're
doing right now is insane, the fact that I'm talking
to a nationwide audience and telling you about what's going
on in Plano, in Garland and everywhere else in the
intelligence community knows about it. I will grant you they
may be doing things that obviously we're not aware of,
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and then obviously I'm not cleared to know about, and
I certainly hope that they are. But don't let the
radical that's redundant. Don't let the left convince you that
somehow we have to treat these people differently, that somehow
they're entitled to all of the rights to do process,
that they're entitled to everything as if they were an
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American citizen. No, they are not. Send them home. It's
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The Los Angeles Times has initiated a lawsuit against the
City of Los Angeles, including Mayor Karen Bass, accusing the
city and the mayor of illegally withholding and destroying public records.
What why are they always doing this? No, I refuse
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to wade into the signal story right now, But the
signal story is a little along the same lines. If
you want to communicate and you're a government official, and
you believe it's sensitive or it's classified information, then there
are ways to do that. If it's not, then we
as taxpayers are entitled to know what you're talking about,
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what you're doing, how you're making decisions, and we're entitled
all of that stuff. They're withholding public records. They're destroying
public records, including text messages from Mayor Bass. Now the
action was taken on Thursday. It stems from all the
fires that occurred starting back in January, remember the January fires. Yeah,
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and aims to what they're doing is they're really challenging
the city's position on the public records law. And I
think that what the LA Times is doing is exactly
right here. In the wake of the fires, the Time
sought all the communications between the mayor and all the
officials she dealt with. But then suddenly they found this
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resistance in which the city was arguing that they were
not obliged to comply with state public record laws. So
the City of Los Angeles decides that, oh yeah, so
there is the California Open Records Act and it applies
to you know, all government entities within the state of California.
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But LA decided, you know, a Los Angeles, we're so special,
we don't have to comply with it. Now, think of
the precedent that that would set, that that suggests that
local officials, in particular here Los Angeles could just delete
records at will. The LA Times writes this when this
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is from Kelly Avel's, the outside council for the Los
Angeles Times. It's bigger than these text messages. She says.
The city seems to believe that they can destroy whatever
they want, whenever they want, and that they don't have
a duty to the public to retain public records. Now,
I know this is a story about Los Angeles, but
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I guarante him to you. I can find a similar
story in almost every state, in every almost every large city.
There was one in Colorado popped up. Just when was this?
This is always all I thought? It was longer than that.
It's just last week, in which a woman was trying
to get information from a library in El Paso County,
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which is a county just south of where I'm sitting.
It's where Colorado Springs is the county seat in which
she was asking for information about the budget. She sought
all communications, including but not limited to emails, text messages,
internal memorandum between this library board, the CEO and the CFO,
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and the landlords and the property managers for the least
properties that were leased by this library board. They sent
her a bill, Well, they didn't send her a bill.
They said, okay, if you want these records, they originally
estimated twenty five thousand dollars. Okay, it seems extensive that
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that seems a little bit. But then when they actually
calculated what it would cost to get those records, the
bill was actually twenty five million, to be precise, twllion,
three hundred and seventy seven nine and seventy one dollars
and forty three cents. I guess that's kind of like
finding out when Doze found out that all the retirement
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records for federal employees were in an iron mountain cave
somewhere in West Virginia, and there is like four hundred
million pages of paper. It's absurd. What's even more absurd,
which does not get enough coverage, is how constantly government
officials are trying to keep from the public, to keep
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from the taxpayers, all of their communications. You know, I
will swerve into the signal controversy just a little bit,
because we had the same thing occur in Colorado, where
the mayor in Colorado, his lawyers in Washington, d C.
Even the city of attorney and his staff, the chief
of staff and everybody were using some sort of encrypted
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I don't know whether it was signal or something else
to talk about his testimony before Congress. We're entitled to
that information. Now. What started this was the LA Times
discovered that the mayor's messages were set to auto delete
after thirty days, which is a lot shorter than the
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two year retention period stipulated not just by the California
state law but by Los Angeles' own city rules. Now,
although the LA Times did get some messages, and some
others that they had deleted were somehow miraculously recovered and
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shared with The Times, there's still others that remain undisclosed,
and of course the stereotypical redaction of, you know, making
sure that you're blackout so you can't see, you know,
which is fine. I don't care about having someone's personal
cell phone number or the social Security number, but I
would like to know their name, and if they're communicating
with city officials, I think I'm entitled to know their names.
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There is this battle going on, just like you go
back to the first part of the hour and we
talk about these groups that are hiding under our noses
and people aren't reporting on it, And then when reporters
actually do try to do a little bit of journalism.
I'm not a huge fan of the La Times. I
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do think the new owner of the La Times is
trying to turn it around, and I'm wish him well.
But when a newspaper tries to get information under the
California Public Records Act or the Colorado Open Records Act
or wherever you might live and they start balking, don't
you wonder what they're hiding, what do they not want
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you to see, and why don't they want you to
see it? And then beyond that, think about the arrogance,
the very arrogance. You know, when you'll probably get a
paycheck sing if you haven't already for the end of
the month, at least I hope you do, or if
you're retired, you'll eventually get a pension check or a
(36:16):
Social Security check. You're paying the bills for these people.
They're public servants. We're entitled to know. It's the weekend
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