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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Michael.
Speaker 2 (00:00):
Maybe it's just that some other stuff is going on.
I have not heard the press heard they mentioned Elon Musk,
and quite a while it seems curious.
Speaker 3 (00:14):
Well, because Elon Musk having stepped aside for a while,
or at least he's not making himself available for interviews,
so they can't use him to attack Trump right now.
So that's they've moved on to the next thing. They will.
They will bounce from from topic to topic to topic
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as long as that topic is fulfilling their Trump derangement
syndrome desires. That's what they will focus on. That's that's
why you're not hearing from Musk. But if Musk farts
in public somewhere in the in the this week, that
will that will make the news, and it'll be it'll
be how bad Trump is allowing must to fart in public.
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Before I go back to the judge, first of all, thanks,
somebody tells me on the text line fifty seven to
fifty nine that the crying photo is AI artificial intelligence,
that someone you know made it up. That really bugs
me because I have for for a long time now.
Speaker 1 (01:23):
Been doing show prep with the.
Speaker 3 (01:26):
Eye now, particularly things that I talk about now I
just casually mentioned the photographs, So that's obviously an exception.
But I've been extraordinarily careful about anything that I talk
about that I've checked it, double checked it, and double
checked it and double checked it. Because I really have,
and I hope you have too. I've really reached a
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point in my mind where I don't believe anything that
I see or read anymore. Every time, if I'm just
dead scrolling through Facebook, I'll catch myself seeing a video
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that for the first few seconds, I think, oh, this
is kind of interesting, and then I start really looking
at it and realize, Oh, this is all made up,
this is all crap, this is all crap, and it
just it's gotten to the point where it's it's actually
irritating and it's and it's to the point too, where
it's made me cynical, and I do mean cynical in
the in the most worst way about everything that I
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see or read anywhere, And so even trusted sources, I'm
now like, Okay, I'm reading it with a John de
Stye and I'm going back and I'm checking it to
see whether you know what's really true or not true
about it.
Speaker 1 (02:48):
Uh.
Speaker 4 (02:49):
We live in an age.
Speaker 3 (02:51):
Where and I think it's just gonna get worse where
you don't know what's real and what's not real, and
that's scary for our future. Before I go back to
the judge and before I go back to the sound bites, well,
I get to the sound bites, I didn't realize that
Tom Homan was going to do a briefing with Caroline
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love And at the White House today, So I don't
it's still going on. It's been going on quite some
time now, but Dragons backed it up to where he
thinks is a good point.
Speaker 5 (03:24):
Yeah, Caroline, she talked about everything that the Trump administration
was doing for the first hundred days with all the
border and the security and starting the wall again. And
at this point she has just tossed it over to
Homan to make some make his remarks.
Speaker 1 (03:37):
Okay, let's hear those.
Speaker 5 (03:38):
Thanks for being here, Tom, thank you.
Speaker 6 (03:41):
Just a few things. Look, I started born Chow in
nineteen eighty four. I've been at this for over forty years.
I worked for six presidents, stared around Reagan, every president
ever worked for it. To boris security seriously, because you
can't have national security if you don't have strong borers security.
We got to know who's coming in, what's coming, and
where's coming.
Speaker 1 (04:00):
In, why it's coming in.
Speaker 6 (04:01):
Right, Even President Obama and President Clinton took some steps
to secure the board because they understood national security.
Speaker 1 (04:08):
It was important.
Speaker 6 (04:09):
Joe Biden was the first president in the history of
this nation who came in office and unsecured a border
on purpose.
Speaker 1 (04:17):
That's just a fact.
Speaker 6 (04:19):
We handed the Biden administration after President Trump's first administration.
We handed the Biden administration the most secure border in
my lifetime, and he unsecured it on purpose. Now, President
Trump and this administration here at the success is unprecedented.
We beat Trump's first administration on border success. Border numbers
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are historical. Today as I'm standing here, we have the
most secure border in the history of this nation. And
then numbers prove it. President Trump's policies are saving lives
every day. There's been studies done. This says thirty one
percent of women to make that journey to you cartels
get sexually assaulted. When President Trump has illegal migration down
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ninety six percent, when ninety six percent less people are coming,
how many women aren't being sexually assaulted by the cartels.
Speaker 1 (05:12):
How many children aren't dying? Making that journey.
Speaker 6 (05:15):
How many women and children aren't being sex trafficked into
this nation. How many spectatorists aren't making.
Speaker 1 (05:21):
Into this country.
Speaker 6 (05:23):
How many pounds of fatanyl isn't getting to this country
to kill young Americans? How many women and children aren't
sex traffick Under Joe Bien, sex traffic is up six
hundred percent. We have four thousand aliens dying making that journey.
We had a quarterman Americans dead from fatanyl that came
across an open border. President Trump's policy saves lives every day.
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Even the border wall saves lives. And people want to
hate on the border wall. Every place a border barrier
has been built, illegal migrations decline, illegal drug flows decline.
Speaker 1 (05:55):
But you know what, no one talks about.
Speaker 6 (05:57):
The border wall saves lives because the more vulnerable, the
women and children can't get over that wall, which means
they're going to a places where there's not a wall.
And what's waiting on them? The men and women the
United States? Borbito, who will take care of those humanitary needs?
Speaker 1 (06:10):
The health days are off the bat.
Speaker 6 (06:13):
We just rolled the numbers, and let me talk about
a few numbers that are important to me, are important
to me. Under Biden administration, we average over eleven thousand
many days, over twelve thousand some days, fifteen thousand early
entrance in the United States, fifteen thousand.
Speaker 1 (06:31):
I know the number was the last twenty.
Speaker 6 (06:33):
Four hours, one hundred and seventy eight, fifteen thousand to
one hundred and seventy eight. Unprecedented success on an average day.
And Biden administration known got aways people we knew across
the border because on video joan trapper or central traffic
across the country, across the border weren't apprehended, weren't finger printed,
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weren't vetting average day. And to Joe Biden, more than
eighteen hundred gotaways yesterday, thirty eight thirty eight too many.
We'll get to the zero, but we want eighteen hundred
thirty eight. And finally, that was said earlier on the
first one hundred days, or was actually January twentieth April first.
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Last year, one hundred and eighty four thousand illegal aliens
were released into the United States.
Speaker 1 (07:23):
Under this administration.
Speaker 6 (07:24):
Nine four of them were material witnesses and a criminal investigation.
We need them here to testify in a serious criminal trial.
Speaker 1 (07:31):
Four was extreme medical condition.
Speaker 6 (07:33):
We couldn't return them because there were such bad shit,
and one's humanitarian issue. This is on precedented success. The
border secure President Trump's saving lives. President Trump has proven
no one does it better than President Trump.
Speaker 1 (07:51):
There is no equals, not even close. So God bless
the men and women the Bordertow.
Speaker 6 (07:56):
God bless the men win of Ice whose trapped a
gun to the hip every day put on a capal
our best now only secure a board and protect our
national security. But the Ice agents and Interior they're they're
removing public safety threats and national security threats every day.
Speaker 1 (08:11):
While you're all sleeping at two or three.
Speaker 6 (08:12):
O'clock in the morning, there are men and women out
there and force in law and making this country safe again.
Speaker 1 (08:19):
And we're gonna keep doing it. Speed ahead. I'll leave
by that moment. Dragon.
Speaker 3 (08:26):
So one point that we need to consider, and I
know that I saw a couple of text messages over
the weekend that alluded to this. You can't do everything
all at once. How many times if you go back
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to the Biden administration or even the Obama administration and
you listen to this program, I would say incessantly that
when the bathtub's overflowing.
Speaker 4 (09:03):
You have to first turn.
Speaker 3 (09:04):
Off the water before you can start cleaning up the
bathroom and mopping up all of the water and emptying it.
Speaker 4 (09:13):
And getting things back to normal. That's what we've done.
Speaker 3 (09:18):
We've we've turned we've gone the main valve and we've
turned the flow off. Yeah there's still a little drips
here and there, but we've turned it off. And it
proves to me that yeah, you didn't need new laws,
you needed a new president. But the point that I
think is more important to make is that for all
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of you that are pissed off that we still have
whatever the number is, twelve million, twenty million, thirty million,
I don't know and neither do you, but it's an
astounding number of illegal aliens still living in in this country. Well,
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that process has started. We turn the water off, and
now we're going to the worst of the worst. And
I'll tell you why I think Trump's doing this, Because
he's doing that the easiest, most least likely to be challenged,
and you see how many challenges there are, So can
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you imagine. I mean, he's building a foundation, a baseline
principle for the removal of the worst of the worst,
criminal illegal aliens, those who have and I'm now talking
about those who have committed a felony body, you know,
being deported once and then coming back in. I'm talking
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about those who have committed crimes in this country or
are members of Trenda Ragua or MS thirteen domestic terrorist organizations,
the cartels. We're removing them first so that you can
then establish a baseline to then start doing what's going
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to be really difficult. This is not going to be easy,
and that's supporting those who have And I would work backwards.
I would work back I would not go to those
who have been here in the country illegally the longest.
I would start with those who have been here for
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the shortest period of time and start working backwards because
and here's why. And I know you're not going to
like this, but this is the political reality that we
have to deal with. There will be on both sides
of the aisle. There will be some conservatives, some liberals
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that will want to figure out a way to create
a path to citizenship or an amnesty. I don't care
what you call it. It's all the same thing. For
those who have been here the longest, who are now
let's just let's paint the picture of someone that I
think would fit the most perfect place where you might
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have a past to citizenship. Someone who came here, let's
say twenty years ago, and during that twenty years, they
have found a job. Now I know shouldn't have, but
they did, and they have bought a home or they've
been renting a home for the past ten years. They've
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got kids, they're paying taxes, they buy cars, they buy homes,
they buy clothes, they buy food, they buy whatever. They
are acting as if they are a regular US citizen,
paying their taxes, paying sales taxes, paying property taxes, doing everything,
but they're not here legally. Reach a point where as
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you work your way backwards, you're going to bump up
against those who have maybe their second third generation now
their grandparents came here illegally, and now they have gotten
They've got an education, they've they've gotten a bachelor's degree.
Hell's bells, they've gotten who knows what they they they
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they're they're an absolute they've gotten from an apprentice to
a tradesman, and they're they're they're a master plumber, they're
a master electrician, and they've got a small business. And
people politicians are going to say, we want to give
them a way to be legal. Well, that's going to
be a horrific, horrible, difficult discussion.
Speaker 4 (13:48):
So let's do the worst of the worst first and work.
Speaker 3 (13:53):
Our way backwards. We shut off the water. Now, let's
start mopping up the floor before we even start attempting
to empty the bathtub. And I think that's precisely what
Trump understands. So this is going to carry over into
I hate to even bring this up, but this is
going to carry over into the twenty twenty eight election
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presidential election, and we're going to have to really focus
on maintaining control of the Senate and the House in
these midterms and then winning the twenty twenty eight election,
so we can carry this forward, because if we don't,
let's just say we backslide horrifically. And you know everybody's
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talking about AOC being the Democrat nominee, let's say she is. Well,
what we have to recognize is there is and I
think we're putting them into the minority more and more
every day, but there is a faction, a certain percentage
of this population that believes that everything that you and
I believe in is absolutely wrong, and they still want
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to pursue their socialist utopia, their Marxist utopia, and AOC
represents the pinnacle of that. And so if she were
the nominee, and let's say it's the answer whomever, we're
really going to have to focus on that election, on
these on these next two elections, if we want to
keep on the path we're on. So that's why Democrats
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are so vocal and so radical now at a standard Democrat,
whatever that means, is right now, desperate for a message,
desperate for a platform. You've got James Carvill out there
saying that AOC and Bernie Sanders do not represent the
Democrat Party, while you've got other people like Elizabeth Warren
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and Chuck Schuman others claiming that they do represent the
new generation of the Democrat Party. Wow, well, if they do,
that is a contrast between what you and I believe
as conservative unaffiliated Republicans whatever we call ourselves, versus them.
Speaker 1 (16:08):
So this.
Speaker 3 (16:12):
This exit ramp that we've taken is we're still on
the ramp. We haven't gotten onto the side street yet.
We haven't changed We're changing directions, but we haven't changed directions.
I just say that because well, everyone, and I understand
Tom Holman's excited. He should be excited, but this is
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just the start of a long journey that we've undertaken.
Let's here at least know the minute of a dragon.
Speaker 5 (16:43):
Okay, he's a lawyer.
Speaker 7 (16:44):
So and just to be clear, have there been any
negotiations between US and l Salvador over his release or
facilitating his release? I will tell you what the President
of El Salvador told all of you in the Oval Office.
El Salvador does not intend to smuggle a designated foreign
terrorist back into the United States. He is an El
Salvadoran national. That is his home country, that is where
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he belongs, and the administration intends to comply with what
President who Kelly said of El Salvador. He does not
intend to send.
Speaker 1 (17:13):
That individual back.
Speaker 7 (17:14):
So that's a no.
Speaker 1 (17:14):
There's been no talks.
Speaker 7 (17:16):
What I have told you is that the President of
El Salvador has made this quite clear.
Speaker 2 (17:20):
Okay, Kerlin, can.
Speaker 7 (17:21):
You tell us more about the meeting between President Trump
and President Jalensi over the weekend.
Speaker 2 (17:26):
Does that meet him change anything to Trump leave that.
Speaker 7 (17:28):
Meeting thinking any differently about negotiations and next steps on
this Look the President talked about this after the meeting
himself yesterday when he took questions from reporters on Air
Force One. He thinks that he is increasingly frustrated with
leaders of both countries.
Speaker 4 (17:43):
He wants to go Let's go back, Grogan, did you
say that he addressed the child?
Speaker 3 (17:50):
And I don't believe Homan did. Okay, all right, when
we get back, let's get back to the judge. Let's
get back to the child in the sound bites. But there, Yeah,
that's a good perspective of where we are today.
Speaker 2 (18:08):
As a mom who has two kids that still make
a mess when they took a shower, the first thing
I do is shut the water off, and then I
clean up the worst of the worst and then go
from there.
Speaker 3 (18:19):
Well, that's why moms are moms. That's why moms are
being control of the border. Wouldn't have no stinking problem, then,
So let's go back to the judge. Wait, Dragon, you
had you had something?
Speaker 5 (18:35):
Yeah. I was able to catch just a little bit
of a home and talking about the the child that
was deported. Unfortunately I didn't get the full question because
of the timing and everything. But here's what we got
about home and talking about separating families.
Speaker 6 (18:49):
So when a parent says, I want I want my
two year old baby to go with me, we made
that happen. They weren't deported, were owned party of citizens.
The parents made that decision, not.
Speaker 1 (18:58):
In the United States government.
Speaker 6 (19:00):
If I don't hear any questions about Lake and Roddy
had a mother, she's never going to see her child again.
Rachel Moring, she had five children, you know those, She'll
never going to see her mom again. This administration is
doing the right thing. Every public safety threat we arrest
in this country and willing this country's much safer. So
parents who make the decision will have to new child.
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Having a US citizen child, Does that make you immune
from our laws? If that's the message we send the
entire world, answer the country, Leady, it's a crime, don't
worry about it, get order removed by an immigration judge,
don't worry about it, no one's looking for it.
Speaker 1 (19:36):
And have a US citizen child and you're immune from
our laws. You're never going to fish the border.
Speaker 6 (19:42):
People will keep putting themselves harms way, more women would die,
more children would die crossing this border. We got to
secure border by enforcement on laws we're not making this up.
When enforcing laws under statue enacted by Congress, it's the
right thing to do.
Speaker 3 (19:54):
We'll get back to that. He made that essentially that
same statement yesterday on CBS's Face the Nation, and we'll
get back to that later. But he makes a good point.
The mother chose to take her child with her. They
didn't deport her. They just said you're leaving. Do you
want your child? Do you want your child to go
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or not? Of course, of course mom wants the child.
Speaker 5 (20:19):
Do you want some quick headlines as to what we
were talking about?
Speaker 3 (20:22):
Do those headlines real quick?
Speaker 5 (20:24):
Because I just found this very interesting and one of
these news networks probably the most truthful, and it's not
quite who you would think. So all I did was
google two year old deported. Thank you. The text that
clarified that I had heard it was like a four
year old, but apparently that there was a two year
old as well, or it was just a two year old.
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But that's just what I googled, and hear the headlines
New York Times two year old US citizen deported with
no meaningful process. Okay, thank you, New York Times, NBC
News US citizen children, including four year old with cancer
taken to Hunduras. Oh thank you, NBCF The Washington Post
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three US citizens ages two, four and seven swiftly deported
from Louisiana.
Speaker 1 (21:18):
Oh my God, strike us down.
Speaker 5 (21:21):
And as I said, it probably the most accurate of
the headlines, which is not very accurate, but still the
most the most accurate is that saying much you know?
And from CNN, Federal judge says two year old US
citizen was deported with mother to Hunduras.
Speaker 4 (21:40):
I like the way that's.
Speaker 3 (21:41):
Worded, because you still you still give across the concept
that the child was deported, but you do it by
just pointing out that the child went with the mother.
Speaker 1 (21:50):
I was deported.
Speaker 4 (21:51):
So if you're a if you're a Dragon Redbeard.
Speaker 3 (21:54):
Headline reader and that's all you consume, then you might
still have the impression that the child was three.
Speaker 5 (22:01):
Out of all I'm seeing is two year old, four
year old, seven year old deported.
Speaker 3 (22:08):
And just to address a slight stupid elephant in the room,
we're quite aware of the static. It's not my microphone,
it's it's.
Speaker 5 (22:17):
The news network. It's the news network connection from the
television to the board. Yeah, so we're aware of that.
Speaker 3 (22:24):
So let's go back to the Wisconsin case with the judge.
Judge Dougan, I want to talk because in that last
segment where I talked about how we are rebuilding this
republic and getting us back to where we need to go,
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it is it's almost as if someone's running behind us
and tearing it apart at the same time, because the
judge assaulted the due process right of every citizen. So
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in our republic, we have a republican form of government
where we elect people to represent us. Well, they've established
laws that govern things like immigration or public safety, criminal statutes,
domestic violence, and we have entrusted the enforcement of those
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laws to particular agencies, and that we built a judicial
system around that to ensure fairness and order. It's all
part of our social contract. But when a judge, when
a judge goes around that system, thwarts the system, violates
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the system. She usurps the sovereign will of you. What does,
in essence is she takes her own private, personal sympathies
and she substitutes those for the collective judgment that's expressed
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in the law through our representation representative republican form of government.
So she attacks the legitimacy of the republic. In twenty eighteen,
there's the case of Judge Shelley M. Richmond Joseph long name.
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This is not isolated. In twenty eighteen, Judge Joseph was
indicted for assisting an illegal alien escape ice custody through
a courthouse back door. I no, I didn't say, Judge Dougan.
Jud Shelley M. Richard Joseph. Now, the charges were dropped
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by the Biden administration, but the facts are troubly because
every time a judge does something like this, it adds
another crack to the edifice of the public trust. And
it shows once again that whenever they do this, you
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certainly find out that, oh wow, can we really trust
the judiciary. So remember, you'll hear that, oh, this is
the first time in US history that a judge has
been arrested, and you'll hear that that's not normal. What
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happened to this judge is not normal. Well let's go to.
Speaker 4 (25:59):
Let me pull it up.
Speaker 3 (26:01):
This is from Atlanta News First, an affiliate out of Atlanta.
Supreme Court of Georgia orders removal of Judge Christina Peterson.
This is from June twenty five last year. The Supreme
Court of Georgia ordered the removal of a Douglas County,
Georgia judge who was arrested last week at a Buckhead nightclub.
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Douglas County Probate Court Judge Christina Peterson has been charged
with a number of violations of the Code of Judicial Conduct,
including a number of violations that the Judicial Qualifications Commission
says exhibited a pattern of judicial misconduct while in office.
The hearing panel found that Judge Peterson violated multiple.
Speaker 4 (26:44):
Rules in the.
Speaker 3 (26:47):
Commission rules and that two of those violations warrant her
removal from the bench, so she was ordered removed. It's
this is not the first time that it's happened. There
are lots of examples of judges getting arrested. Judge Tracy
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Hunter from Ohio in twenty fourteen, Judge Mark Caravella Pennsylvania
two thousand and nine, Judge Jessica O'Brien Illinois twenty seventeen,
Judge Ulu Stevens in Kentucky in twenty sixteen. Just to
give you a few examples, this is where you can
actually use artificial intelligence and a deep dive into a
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Google search to find out that no, no, we've had
judges actually physically arrested, not just remove from the bench,
not just have a judicial commission like in Georgia just
say hey, you're no longer a judge. You're out of here.
We're kicking off the bench. But judges who have actually
been physically arrested. So whenever you hear about oh my gosh,
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this is unprecedented, and this is once again an example
of how Donald Trump is violating all the forms of
the country. Is utter and complete bull crap. But I
want to use the other word because this is where
the other words more appropriate. But another case that we
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talked about before is that of New Mexico magistrate judge
Joel Conno. So this month he and his wife were
arrested handcuffed a he's a New Mexico magistrate judge, for
harboring illegal aliens that were members of Trendo Arragua. You
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you know that one of the things that I found
fascinating about that case, which I find very, very weird.
We're going to find out a lot more about that case.
But according to the Attorney General, they face charges that
the judge does of evidence tampering. How how bad can
you get as a judge, if you're tampering with the evidence,
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that's what mafioso does.
Speaker 8 (29:07):
That.
Speaker 3 (29:08):
I mean, that's a judge tampering with the evidence. You
know what they're trying to do. He admitted to destroying
the illegal alien's cell phone because it contained images of
two decapitated victims. He smacked him. He's kind of like Hillary.
He didn't use bleach bit. He smashed it with a
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hammer and then disposed of the pieces in a city
dumpster to protect the illegal alien that he was harboring.
And then they provided weapons. Oh my god, they provided
AR fifteen's with suppressors to allow him to go practice
at a shooting range.
Speaker 5 (29:47):
No, I don't know.
Speaker 4 (29:49):
Imagine what do you think.
Speaker 3 (29:50):
That member of trenda Rod was going to do once
he got proficient practicing out the range with the gun
provided by the judge in New Mexico.
Speaker 5 (30:02):
Oh yeah, uh.
Speaker 3 (30:03):
By the way, the Supreme Court in New Mexico is
already permanly banned him from judicial office and he will
face the trial.
Speaker 8 (30:13):
Hey Michael, what is going on with the titia James?
They talked about it last week for a couple of days,
maybe just one day, and now nothing is happening, no
more news. They're already throwing this stuff under the rug.
Speaker 5 (30:30):
Who Letitia James did the same thing Trump did.
Speaker 3 (30:35):
Oh, I think there's a real practical reason for that. One,
she's a Democrat and so they're not going to cover it.
But two, there's nothing happening right now.
Speaker 5 (30:46):
The legal process takes a little bit of time, right.
Speaker 3 (30:49):
And so while if it were Trump or a Republican
you know, a member of Congress or just you know,
some Republican fundraiser, you know whatever, Yeah, they would be
covering it, you know, because they would be tracing every
step and they would be talking about what is going
to happen. But because it's a Democrat and there's nothing
actually happening in the process right now, they're not going
to cover it.
Speaker 1 (31:09):
Come on, you guys know that.
Speaker 3 (31:12):
I assume the question was rhetorical because you know, it's
exactly what's going on there. They're really you think they're
going to wall the wall coverage about Letitia James. Now,
they'll be forced to do it when she makes like
initial court appearance or something, but until then, yeah, not
much is going to happen.
Speaker 1 (31:32):
So let's just.
Speaker 5 (31:35):
Let's do this.
Speaker 3 (31:36):
I know, it's taking this while to get through some
of this. Some people who are defenders of what's called
judicial nullification, that they will argue that that a court room,
a courthouse has to be a safe space that you
can't enforce any other law there. I I personally, back
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as a baby lawyer, have seen the Colorado Highway patrol
and deputy sheriffs walk into a county courthouse and arrest
somebody because they know they're there for a hearing on
a divorce case or something, and so they walk in
because they know they're there, and it's an easy place
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to arrest somebody. But a lot of people on the
left think that a courthouse is ought to be a
safe space. There should be no you know, immigration enforcement,
because you know, then a witness or a victim might
fear to come forward. But that makes no sense whatsoever,
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because I don't think anybody suggesting that every courthouse is
some sort of fortress that's policed by ice. I would
challenge you to go to an average courthouse wherever, whatever
county you live in right now, just go drive by
and see if you see any you know, people with
like secret service, people with you know, the ear plugs
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in and and they're they're walking around. You know, they've
all got you know, men in black Are they Are
they there? No, it's it's a simple proposition that any
individual subject to lawful removal proceedings and caught committing other
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crimes should not be shielded or protected by the very
institution that is charged with adjudicating those crimes. If you're
going to to you know, to protect an an accused,
I have to call him an accused. To protect an
accused batter from a lawful arrest, that's not protecting the vulnerable.
Speaker 4 (33:47):
That's making a vulnerable even more exposed.
Speaker 3 (33:51):
And that all judicial actions uphold due process, I don't
think that is a proper understanding of what due process is.
I love the fact that due process is becoming a
main topic in the news, because I don't think most
people understand what due process really is.