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Speaker 1 (00:00):
As a hardcore Trump supporter, I will happily sit on
my hands in twenty twenty six and twenty twenty eight
and hand this country back to the Democrats. If Trump
just tries to bury the Epstein files and protect pedophiles,
I will let this country burn. I don't care.

Speaker 2 (00:25):
I'm so glad you sent that talkback.

Speaker 3 (00:30):
Because you look at the text line and you listen
to all the talkbacks. I can just sit back and say,
those of you who want to accuse me of beating
a dead horse, have at it, because in the other
corner we have that gentleman who will gladly sit on

(00:52):
his hands and let the country burn down to hell
if we let these pedophiles get away with stuff.

Speaker 2 (01:03):
And that's why this story will not die.

Speaker 3 (01:07):
So half of you, I don't know what the division is,
but let's just say it's fifty to fifty. Half of
you are pissed off that I'm beating a dad horse,
and the other half of you are preach it. Maybe
preach it. Do you want to know where I personally
sit with regard to this story? Rosen always had that phrase?

(01:28):
What was that phrase that Rosen used to do? I
need to know.

Speaker 2 (01:33):
Where you sit before you stand. I need to know
where you sit before you stand, or something like that.
I forget what it was.

Speaker 3 (01:39):
Whatever, whatever it was, let me tell you where I am.
If there is a group of elite pedophiles that are
abusing underage boys and girls, I want them held accountable.

(02:00):
I want them tried, fairly, convicted, and then thrown in
a really nice prison somewhere where they will be marked
as convicted pedophiles. And then we'll just let human nature
take its course and problem solved. M pedophile, meet your maker,

(02:30):
have your judgment day, and I'll be happy. If they
don't exist, then I want the Department of Justice to
show me that there is no such thing, and let's
move on. But we're now in this purgatory. We're now

(02:50):
in this quagmire. And the only thing I want to
do in this segment, and I'm going to fully completely
plage your because I'm just going to read to you,
not not word for word, but I'm going to go
through the Free Press article from yesterday just so you
understand that this is how we got here. So even

(03:13):
if you think it's a dead horse or you are ready,
let the country burn down until you get the evidence.
I think you need to understand how do we get
to where we are. Let's before I go to the story,
let me just say, do you remember Pizzagate? Do you

(03:35):
remember how QAnon started the whole thing about what was
that guy's name, Seth rich or something, and he was
murdered and because he was going to blow the whistle
on the little pizza place in DC where the pedophiles
would meet, they would go down in the basement and
you know, they would they would pick out their kid
and they would go abuse their kid. I mean, it
was it was a torred and horrid story that was

(03:59):
all cute. Well, post January sixth, QAnon kind of disappeared,
but the pedophilia theory lived on. Well have you ever thought,
how did it live on? If QAnon was the source

(04:20):
and that was the kind of the nucleus of all
the pedophilia stories and then QAnon post January sixth kind
of dissipates and goes.

Speaker 2 (04:31):
Away, how does it live on?

Speaker 1 (04:32):
Now?

Speaker 3 (04:33):
Let's get to the Free Press story and they and
near the end they write this. If you spend any
time on social media, you know that the influencers I'm
talking about Tucker Carlson is probably the most important, but
their number also includes Steve Mannon, Jack Pasobi, Theo Vaughn,
Dave Smith, Joe Rogan, Kat Turk, Megan Kelly, the Hodge Twins,

(04:56):
and a host of others who flourished on extra YouTube. So,
though not all of them have personal and professional ties
to the Trump administration, everyone I just read to you
is a die hard supporter of Donald Trump. Yet they're

(05:16):
the ones out there that Trump is telling them to
shut up and sit down, and they're the ones that
won't let this go. Don't you find that in of
itself interesting? I find it fascinating Politically, Some though not
all of them have personal and professional ties to the

(05:37):
Trump administration, and some, though not all, of them were
formally courted by the Trump campaign in an attempt to
reach those audiences, and then a handful of them, Dan
Bongino being the most prominent one, were even hired into
the administration.

Speaker 2 (05:54):
I would also add that.

Speaker 3 (05:56):
Tucker Carlson's son was hired by the Vice President. I
think he's the assistant press secretary or something for jd Vance.
The Free Press writes loose Epstein talk has flourished in
this has long flourished in this world. This has recently
put figures like Bongino, who is now Deputy director of

(06:17):
the FBI, and his boss, FBI Director Cash Mattel, into
an awkward position. Both, while out of government, mouthed off
on podcasts about what they thought they knew about Epstein
and the Epstein files, only to discover once in government
that there was well less to the story than they thought,
and that the Department of Justice cannot simply publish lurid

(06:42):
unverified accusations. And they give an example. I confess I
never heard this example, so I double checked it to
make sure that the example was true. The Free Press
writes this, there was less to the story than they thought,

(07:03):
and that the Department of Justice simply cannot publish lurid
unverified accusations like that Trump sucked the nipples of an
underage girl until they were raw, which is a real,
though false claim. Close quote on the Free Press, and
they have a hyperlink that leads you to the story.

(07:26):
So you can't just publish lurid, unverified accusations against uncharged
private citizens. And in an effort to court what it
the Trump administration, the Trump campaign regarded as its base
the administration made a show of promising to release whatever

(07:47):
information it had on Epstein, thus helping to dig the
whole it's.

Speaker 2 (07:51):
Now currently in.

Speaker 3 (07:54):
But this drama, this whole topic, is not simply a
matter of did Pam Bondy kind of screw up the
whole presentation of the files with.

Speaker 2 (08:05):
Those so called influencers.

Speaker 3 (08:07):
Back at the White House back in February, Because the
most influential voices that are pouring fuel on the fire
are not the whack jobs distant from power. They are
actually the people that are close to the seat of power.
Tucker Carlson, a staunch supporter of Donald Trump, Steve Bannon

(08:31):
used to work for him, went to jail for Donald Trump.
They probably have the strongest ties to Donald Trump personally
and to the administration ri at large. And yet those two,
among others like Megan Kelly and others, have been the
most assidious since the election in positioning themselves as the

(08:53):
voice of Trump's base and are the ones that won't
let go of the story.

Speaker 2 (08:59):
As I said.

Speaker 3 (08:59):
Early, it was Tucker Carls him himself who at the
Turning Point USA conference last week down in Florida, embraced
the full it's a tie between Masad and a group
of pedophiles, and they're all being blackmailed. That's their version
of the that's his version of the Epstein story. And

(09:19):
he fully and publicly espoused that at Turning Point USA
down in Florida last weekend, and then he linked it
to the push for war with Iran and the plague
of credit card debt and darkly warned that the Trump administration,
in which his son remember works for the Vice president,

(09:39):
needed to start listening to its voters, in the words,
start listening to me, Tucker Carlson, or else, the company's
going to face a revolution. Well, we just heard that.
We just heard that. Those of you over here on
the on this side of the choir screaming dead horror.

(10:01):
You can't ignore this side of the choir that's saying,
I will never vote for him again, I will never
vote for any MAGA again. And I want the country
to go full Democrat and burn to hell. There you
got it. And you think I'm beating a dead horse. No,
there is a volcano erupting under us. And you're just

(10:21):
pissed off those of you who are in the beating
a dead horse portion of the choir you're just tired
of hearing about it. Well, I understand about it. I'm
frankly tired of talking about it. But I think it's
much bigger than we want to admit. What side, whichever
side you're on, if you believe that there's a group

(10:43):
of pedophiles, elite pedophiles out there, you may be right.
And those of you who think this is a bunch
of made up bull crap, you may be right. Guess what,
I don't know which is true, And I guarantee to
you that neither one of you know which is true.
Either abandons out there calling for a special council. Now,

(11:07):
wait a minute. You can't call for a special council
until you've had an investigation that indicates there's at least
a predicate for a council to be investigated, to do
a independent investigation. So that's clearly an insane suggestion, particularly
if you saw what happened with special councils during Trump's

(11:27):
first term. But I digress. But that just shows you
how those closer to the Trump administration, a sensibly close
to the Trump administration, are pushing him into this. And
I'm not surprised that Trump, he and I are probably
much like personality wise in that regard. You keep pushing
me and pushing me and pushing me about something that

(11:49):
maybe I really don't care about, or maybe something that
I'm trying to deal with back here, you know, quietly,
and in my own way, I wish you would just
shut up and sit down, because I know what I'm doing.
I'm playing some chess here, I'm moving around, so back

(12:10):
off and leave me alone. Now Here's where I think
the Free Press really gets to the crux of why
this is a serious battle.

Speaker 2 (12:24):
They write.

Speaker 3 (12:25):
If you are wondering why Carlson and Bannon might play
arson with the Trump coalition, you're not following the foreign
policy debates that have racked Trump's second administration. Since he
took office. Carlson and Bannon were both adamant, almost hysterical
opponents of Trump's decision to bomb the Iranians in June.

(12:46):
Both issued dark warnings that bombing Iran would splinter Trump's
base and lead to a disastrous war that would derail
the entire administration, and both would emerge from that dispute
with egg on their faith as none of their predictions
came true. In fact, I would say that the bombing

(13:07):
of the Iranians. Whether it obliterated or stepped back their
nuclear program. Either way, I'm happy it accomplished the hell
of a lot. Shut them up, made them sit down now,
it sort of, at least in so far as a
Moss and Hesbelah are concerned, it did cause them to
shut up and sit down. Who Thee's not so much,

(13:31):
but I thought we were told that who thi's were
taken care of. Obviously they weren't, so that led to this,
they write. Trump even took to personally insulting Carlson as
a kookie Tucker Carlson, mocking him for no longer having
a TV show, publicly ridiculing the work of Carlson's protege
and main ally in the administration, The D and I

(13:52):
Tolsey Gabbert, the base that Carlson other influencers spoke for,
meanwhile simply sided with Trump with Poles after the strike,
showing that somewhere between eighty and ninety four percent of
self identified MAGA Republican voters supported bombing Iran, but Iran
was just sippy Iceberg the Free Press rights back in December.

(14:13):
Carlson later back by Gabbert's testimony in her confirmation hearing
had spun out imagined the conspiracy theories about the collapse,
a series of sod regime blaming it on Israel and
the neo con foreign policy at Barack Obama and paying
the country's new leader, aucment alshera as both a Jihadis
and a stooge of the neo cons who would soon

(14:33):
usher in widespread massacres or Christians. Well, guess what part
of that's come true. I don't have it on my
list today, but I'm following the stories in Syria about
the the Druids and the others that they're now going after.
And now Israel's having intervened to save some of those sects,

(14:59):
so they may have been right about that one. And
then you've got Ukraine. On Ukraine, both Carlson and Bannon
they arrived, have been advocates of cutting off Zelensky and
leaving the Ukrainians to surrender or die on their own,
a position that Trump briefly looked as if he might embrace. Instead,
Trump decided that Russian President Vladimir Putin is throwing him

(15:21):
bull you know what, publicly overruled the isolationists in his
own Department of Defense, who also run to Carlson for
Solis when they're fired, and it proved a new ten
billion dollar weapons package for Ukraine. In other words, the
Magga influencers who are not the base but played on that,
they played the bass on TV or on their podcast,

(15:42):
have for months now been losing major policy fight after
major policy fight, and Trump's losing patients with them and
starting to call him out by name. So for those
who built their entire brand and they're following around the
idea that they and not Trump, are the authentic voices
of Mega, that's a really dangerous position to be in,

(16:03):
one that undermines the whole business model. But if they
can show they can hurt the president and do so
while still pretending to be loyal, then there are people
who have to be negotiated with. By inflaming the base
with pedro blackmail theories, they're playing the only card they
have left, and I think that's why the story's still alive.

Speaker 2 (16:28):
Now.

Speaker 3 (16:29):
I go back to my own personal position. If there's
any truth to this story, I want DOJ to dig
in and find out. If it's not, I want them
to dig in and find out and in both instances.
Either one instance, I want to see investigations, I want
to see indictments, and the others I want to see
the documents. I want to be able to convince myself

(16:52):
that there's nothing there. Then I would just simply ask
you this, either way, don't you want to know? Don't
you I do as much as I talk about the Cabal,
so maybe I kind of lean one way or not

(17:13):
the other. As much as I know and understand about
the Cabal from personal experience, I know they're evil, and
I know they're more than going to cover.

Speaker 4 (17:21):
Up stuff, changing the story. I'm really surprised one of
these insurrectionist judges hasn't declared the closing of the border
to be unconstitutional.

Speaker 2 (17:40):
So there, give it time.

Speaker 3 (17:43):
Give it time, Goober number nine three zero seven ninety
three oh seven rights for a long time I have.
I wouldn't say hate, but I'm very angry at our
country because I believe that there's not just equal justice
under the law for all of us. There's rules for

(18:04):
us and rules for them. Hillary Clinton in her emails,
I worked for the federal government for thirty years, and
every year we took an ethics class. We were required
to take the ethics class, and you know, I mean,
we knew we weren't supposed to do private business over
the government email. And not only did she do that,

(18:26):
but she took her state emails Department of State emails
to a private server, to a bathroom in Lyttleton. If
I'd done that, believe me, I wouldn't have been able
to work for the federal government for thirty years. And
that's just one of many, many, many, many examples. I'm
sick of rules for us and rules for them. And
I understand the guy I wouldn't let the country burn.

(18:47):
I have grandchildren, but I understand it's frustration. I'm sick
of rules for us and rules for them. You don't
have to apologize for a long text message, because I
think that's also the crux of the Epstein issue, whether we.

Speaker 2 (19:06):
Ultimately know the truth or don't know the truth.

Speaker 3 (19:10):
The fact that we don't know either, and the fact
that we have a suspicion that there's one set of
rules for them and another set of rules for others.
I do believe that's also at the heart of this
entire issue. I'm sick of that. I'll give you an example.

(19:30):
You know this is this is going to be a
I'll just work. Maybe I can make it other than boring.
But even though I spent not last Saturday, but I
think the Saturday before, maybe I did it on this program,
one of the two programs I spent an inordan amount
of time going through the OBQ the one Big Beautiful Bill. Well,

(20:01):
do you know that within that bill the law expands
a It expands a tax benefit to investors that put
money in startup companies. The tax benefit is called the
Qualified Small Business Stock QSBS Qualified small business stock. The

(20:26):
current law exempts certain capital gains from taxes entirely. Well,
the Big Beautiful Bill, what Congress did? It tweaks this
already lucrative tax provision to make it even more generous generous.
It expands the definition of a qualifying small small business

(20:48):
as one with assets up to seventy five million dollars.
I'm sitting on a pile of let's just say Apple
stock that I don't know. The return on that stock
is four or five. It's increased tremendously in value. I

(21:16):
don't know what to do with it. I you know,
I don't need the cash, but maybe I want to
cash some stock in and buy a new car, which
I would not buy. I would not cash stock in
to buy a new car, or maybe take a vacation,

(21:36):
or maybe take that cash out and instead buy gold,
gold and silver right now on a on a terror
So I might buy some more gold and silver, but
I don't because I don't want to pay the capital
of gains on it. So this is an example of

(21:57):
and look, don't get me wrong, I don't have a
problem with the qualified small business stock exemption from capital
gains because that encourages people to invest in capital gains.
But so while I'm for it, I'm simultaneously pissed off

(22:18):
that if I go put money into a startup company
which has a probably greater than equal chance of failing
and that investment becoming worthless, I get no benefit from that.
I just happened to believe in what the startup was,
so willing to put some money in it, willing to see.

Speaker 2 (22:39):
If it grows.

Speaker 3 (22:40):
It might be the next Apple, it might be the
next Nvidia, it might be the next Tesla. And so
that you know, ten thousand dollars I put in a
startup exempt from capital gains. Well, they expanded that under
the previous iteration of the law, an investor could claim

(23:02):
tax free QSBS qualified small business on ten million dollars
in gains or equal to ten times their initial investment,
which is whichever is higher, and after holding the shares
for at least five years. Well, now that's been increased
by Congress. It expands the investment to fifteen million dollars

(23:27):
and doesn't require you in fact, allows you to exit
from that startup earlier than five years. The law also
pegs the new seventy five million dollar asset cap and
your investments to threshold. The threshold to inflation, So as
inflation goes up, even inflation goes up two percent, that

(23:50):
means that your exemption goes up by two percent. Why
can't you do that for just us individual retail investors
that just buy Apple stock, Because not everybody has the
means to invest in a qualified small business stock where

(24:12):
you can get this exemption. I wish everybody could, but
most most of them required. You have to be a
what's what's called a qualified investor. So you've got to
show that you've got the wherewithal, you've got the available assets,
you've got to have a certain net worth, blah blah, blah,
you got to meet all these requirements, but in exchange

(24:32):
for that, you get to put you know, one hundred
thousand dollars or a million dollars in and you now
get exempted. If it takes off, you don't pay capital
gains and up to a company gets assets up to
seventy five million dollars and then that's been pushed. So
the point is this new standard could really unlock billions

(24:58):
of dollars in untaxed gain for savvy venture capitalists and
other not well, yes, some individuals, so some retail investors,
but mainly for venture capitalists and private equity firms. I
read the story from flex Capital that says, these new

(25:18):
congressional rules represent a quote suitcase filled with tax free
Lamborghinis because it's a tax exemption for those who qualify
under the investment rules under the SEC rules, and now
you get an expanded capital gains tax exemption. Then there

(25:39):
was the story that I posted on X yesterday about
a woman who lost her home because of the inability
to pay her property taxes. Okay, well, we know that
that happens sometimes, but this story was even worse because well,
guess what happened.

Speaker 2 (25:57):
The court rule.

Speaker 3 (25:58):
The Supreme Court ruled, Hey, you can foreclose, you can
recover the past, do property taxes. But the equity that
is left, you've got to pay back. You've got to
give it to her. Well they haven't done that. The
story comes to us. Well, you know what, let me

(26:18):
take a break. Now, I'll let you hear John Stossill
tell the story next.

Speaker 5 (26:23):
Hey, Michael, with all the beaten of the dead Epstein horse,
I just wanted to say, I'm I'm willing to accept
that Donald Trump could have some illicit involvement with Jeffrey Epstein,
And to be perfectly honest with you, in regards to
the shape our country is, in the job he is doing,
in the agenda he is carrying forth, I don't have

(26:47):
to like him.

Speaker 4 (26:48):
He just has to do a good job for me.

Speaker 3 (26:53):
I absolutely agree with that. That's why I think the
whole thing about taking Trump literally is a mistake, and
you should take Trump seriously but not literally. And that's
the way I approach him. There's a lot of things
about Donald Trump that I don't like, but the one
thing I do like is he's doing what he said

(27:14):
he would do and take the whole Ukraine, Russia thing. So,
you know, and I do believe that had he been
elected in twenty twenty, that Putin would not have invaded Ukraine.
I think that Putin did it because he saw Biden
is weak, he saw the entire country is weak, so
he took advantage of that. But I think Trump was

(27:34):
also naive and thinking that through the power of personality
he could persuade a thug, a former KGB.

Speaker 2 (27:42):
Thug, well actually still a KGB thug for that matter,
that he could.

Speaker 3 (27:46):
Convince him, because Putin is on a legacy mission, and
I think Trump thought he could convince him otherwise, and
it took him a long time to realize Nope, that
ain't gonna work. And now he's pissed off. And so
now we're going to start arming our NATO allies so
they can arm Russia, which still gives him maneuvering room.

Speaker 2 (28:09):
You see. I think it's a I think it's a
brilliant strategy.

Speaker 3 (28:14):
Uh quickly, I want to get through some of John Stossel,
because I think this is an example of how this
elitism is not just it's not just members of CAR
it's not the federal level, it's at every single level
of government. I told you last week about the buggaboo
I've got with the Douglas County commissioners. You talk about

(28:34):
a bunch of elitists. They really are horrible, and what
they're doing in Douglas County is horrible.

Speaker 6 (28:42):
People lose their homes over one mistax payment. It's hard
to believe this happens in America, but it does. I
reported on the practice a couple of years ago. At
the end of this video, I'll cover what's new, but
first let's recap. I'm still in shot.

Speaker 7 (29:00):
Twanda Hall was behind on her property taxes. She was
on a payment plan, but she missed nine hundred dollars.
She didn't expect to lose her entire three hundred thousand
dollars home.

Speaker 4 (29:11):
They took my whole house, my whole family's livelihood, and
they didn't.

Speaker 2 (29:16):
Give you change.

Speaker 7 (29:18):
They kept it all two hundred eighty six thousand dollars
more than what she owed. The county's lawyers says this
practice may sound unfair, but.

Speaker 6 (29:27):
It's also unfair to force those who pay their taxes
to subsidize.

Speaker 2 (29:31):
Those who don't.

Speaker 4 (29:32):
I pay taxes.

Speaker 2 (29:33):
She's a nurse assistant. I'm on a brain trauma unit.

Speaker 4 (29:37):
I lift people.

Speaker 2 (29:38):
You don't stop and think about the arrogance of that
little Twin County attorney.

Speaker 7 (29:45):
Missed nine hundred dollars. She didn't expect to lose her
entire three hundred thousand dollars home.

Speaker 5 (29:51):
They took my whole house, my whole family's livelihood.

Speaker 2 (29:56):
And they didn't give you change.

Speaker 7 (29:57):
They kept it all two hundred eighty s six thousand
dollars more than what she owed. The county's lawyers says
this practice may sound unfair, but.

Speaker 4 (30:07):
It's also unfair to force those who pay their taxes
to subsidize those who don't.

Speaker 3 (30:11):
I wait a minute, to force those who pay their
taxes to subsidize those who don't. She was paying her taxes,
she had entered into an agreement, She was paying X
dollars per month to catch up on her payments. She
missed it, and now wait a minute, So they kept

(30:32):
two hundred and eighty six thousand dollars of her home's equity,
claiming that, well, it's unfair for you know, the other
taxpayers to subsidize her. She wasn't paying her taxes.

Speaker 2 (30:42):
You took her home.

Speaker 3 (30:45):
She was on a payment plan. You took her home.
And you kept the money. That's not your money. That's
the arrogance. And I think that's what's driving the anger
in this country. I've had it with government. I think
about a story like this. Here's working as a nurse's assistant,

(31:09):
a hard job. She misses a nine hundred dollars pay. Okay,
we're going for clothes, and I'm not gonna give you
anything back. And that little twit, that little.

Speaker 2 (31:20):
S ed has the.

Speaker 3 (31:22):
Audacity to say, well, we're the other touch players are
subsidizing work.

Speaker 2 (31:26):
She didn't pay, she paid, Hey old boom. Yeah, that's
the angel in the country. Elita is
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