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Speaker 1 (00:00):
The night, Michael Brown joins me here the former FEMA
director of.

Speaker 2 (00:03):
Talk show host Michael Brown.

Speaker 1 (00:04):
Brownie, no, Brownie, You're doing a heck of a job
the Weekend with Michael Brown broadcasting Life from Denver, Colorado. Hey,
so begin with Michael Brown. Glad to have you joined
the program today. We got a lot to talk about.
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I do appreciate it. So now let's get started, because
I've been troubled all week. Of course, I'm pretty much
troubled the entire time. I have a very troubled brain.
But as I've watched the political news, the economic news,

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the social cultural news, the whole gamut of the news
that we consume, and I've said this, I've probably said
it on this program too, but I really do believe
that we live in a world of stupidity. And I
could spend hours dissecting why I think so many people

(01:37):
are stupid and society as a whole seems to be disintegrating.
And I asked this question, and I'll ask you the
same question I asked my local audience. Is there more
stupidity going on? Or is the say, per capita amount
of stupidity the same. It's just that, you know, twenty

(01:59):
four hours seven cable news channels, the networks, social media,
the fact that we can get news from all over
the world instantaneously. Is it just that now we're exposed
to more of the stupidity or is it a combination
of both, That there really is more stupidity and we're
exposed to more of the stupidity. One of the things

(02:21):
that has really bothered me. Has made me start thinking
about this. I've been batching it all week. My wife's
been out of town, and of course, you know, I'm
a wild and crazy guy. Most of you probably don't
get that reference, but if you're old enough, you get
that old Saturday Night Live reference of Steve Martin and
I forget who the maybe is dan Aykroyd. They were

(02:42):
the two wild and crazy guys, and they're always out,
you know, they always out cruising for kicks, and they
were always out partying, and they were really cool. You know,
they have their bell bottoms on and everything. Well, that's
not me, that's not me. What I tend to do
is I tend to find one or two friends and say, hey,
let's go have a really nice dinner somewhere. And then
I go home home and I find a movie or
I start going down the rabbit hole on my computer.

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And I've been going down the rabbit hole a lot,
and I've been discovering some things that are really troubling.
Not that I don't I'm obviously aware of these things,
but when you watch it, for example, and I don't
remember the name of the account, but on X there
are a couple accounts where all they do. For example,

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we have one in Denver, which is a great account.
I fully support this account. There's a little bit of
controversy going on with this account, but the name of
the account on X is do Better Denver. So there's
a shout out nationwide to all three hundred and fifty
affiliates that if you want to follow an account that
shows how bad and I'm sure there's one in San

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Francisco or La someplace that does the same thing, but
in Denver, do better, Denver, Do Better, and then dnv R.
It's a crowd sourcing of all of the homeless drug
and mintal activities going on within the city accounty in Denver,
you know from where I broadcast and a local newspaper

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and a reporter outed a couple of contributors to this account,
not the owners of the account, but send people. For example,
I have sent them photographs. I've I've been downtown or
I've been somewhere and I've seen some you know, drug
addled person asleep on the side of the street with
their butt crack showing, and I've taken a photograph and
I've sent it to them, and it's just in fact,

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you can see that on next too. If you're interested,
you can see that on my account. So there are
accounts like that, but they're even worse. They'll find groups
of people that are engaged in fights or that are
you know that collect street videos of people beating up

(04:51):
strangers or you know, attacks, muggings, everything, And when you
watch a lot of that, you realize, holy crap, we
kind of live. And if you put your blinders on,
you can think to yourself, we live in a third
world country. Because and I think part of that and
I refuse to go down this rabbit hole, but I

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think a part of that is twofold. I think one
the social safety net that we've created in this country
is way too extravagant. There is there soon will be.
But there currently is no work requirement. So you don't
have to do squat. You can just sit around and
you can, you know, get part of your housing paid for.

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You can you can you with your snap benefits, you
can go buy your groceries and do you have to
buy anything nutrition. You can buy a bunch of junk
food for that matter. And so there's no incentive to
get up off your butt and go work. Then you
you compile that, or you combine that, not compile it.
You combine that with the horrific education system that we

(05:56):
have in this country. And I know, before if you're
a teacher, sure or you're involved in public education, before
you start, you know, switching the dial or screaming at me,
or sending me in at or you know, sending me
a nasty text message. I recognize that there are pockets
everywhere of really high quality public education, but you know what,
you're out numbered. Be realistic. You are outnumbered. If you're

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a teacher or a counselor you're outnumbered. And that's unfortunate
because and it's not just urban areas versus rural areas.
It can be anywhere. And so we've created over the past,
you know, several generations, a group of people who don't
understand economics, that don't understand the constitution, don't understand our
form of government, don't understand our culture, don't understand anything.

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And then you combine that with there's no one sendive
to work. It leads to stupid people. And I want
to give you an example of one of those stupid
people to show you this is this is a female.
I have no idea how old she is, but she
looks to be I'm saying somewhere, you know, I'm a

(07:04):
horrible judge of someone's age. No, I'm saying she's somewhere
between the ages of twenty five and thirty five.

Speaker 2 (07:12):
Oh. I quit my job because I can't take care
of my basic needs and work forty hours a week
at the same time.

Speaker 1 (07:20):
I can't take care of my basic needs and work
forty hours a week at the same time.

Speaker 2 (07:26):
It's really hard to say this out loud and put
it online, but I know that I'm not the only
person going through this. I've almost been fired from every
job that I've ever had. And it's not because I'm
not smart. I actually tend to overperform in the beginning.
It's just that after some time, I inevitably burnt out.
Once I wake up one day and realize that I
haven't taken a shower in like three weeks.

Speaker 1 (07:47):
Have you ever gone three weeks with that taking a
shower and woke up one day and realized, oh, holy crap,
I stink. Have you ever done that? Because if you all,
if you have, and I'm not talking about you know,
maybe you're out on you know, you're in active duty,
or so you're out in you know, some third world
crab whole country, you know, working. I'm not talking about that,

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or I'm not talking about you know, maybe you're on
an offshore oil drilling rig and you just haven't had
time to shower because the well's really busy and stuff.
Now I'm not talking about that. I'm talking about just
your everyday, average American that just you know, we'll book
up one day and realize, oh crap, it's been three
weeks since I took a shower.

Speaker 2 (08:26):
It's really frustrating. Because I know that I'm an intelligent person.

Speaker 1 (08:30):
It's really frustrating. I can't seem to take care of
myself and maintain a forty hour week. But I think
I'm smart, but I seem to be losing jobs all
the time. Oh wow, And you don't think we're surrounded
by stupid people. Now we're to hear the rest of
this when we get back, but I'm going to take
a break right now because I want to swerve into

(08:51):
some economics that I think will show you because I've
read through portions of a book that I would highly
recommend that dispel some of the myths that we have
about free markets. It's the Weekend with Michael Brown. Texting.
Any messeng or question you have to three three one

(09:12):
zero three go follow me on except Michael Brown, USA.
I'll be right back. Hey, welcome back to the Weekend
with Michael Brown. I don't know why you've tuned in,
but I'm really glad that you have. Yeah, I really
am glad that you've done that. I've got a I
have a friend up in Alaska who is listening in
right day, right right now. He's packing to come down

(09:34):
to the lower forty eight, coming to Colorado. So he
just sent me a text message, and I just wanted
to make sure that he knew that I very much
appreciated the warning, so that I make sure I'm out
of town when he finally arrives. So let's go back
and let's finish this woman. Well, now, finish the woman.
Let's finish listening to her, because I think this represents

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now I don't know whether it's thirty percent, forty, fifty percent,
eighty or ninety percent. I don't know. And again I
don't know. I'm just guessing your agent to be between
the ages of twenty five and thirty five she's certainly
older than at least she's at least twenty five, and
I certainly don't think she's over the age of thirty five,

(10:20):
which is why I think that's that's my age, rang
that I give her a ten year span of age.
But she wakes up after three weeks and realizes that
she hasn't taken a shower, and she just does not
have the ability to somehow take care of her own needs,
whatever the hell that means, and maintain a full time job,

(10:42):
a forty hour week job.

Speaker 2 (10:44):
It's just it's a form of self sabotage to honestly
be putting so much energy into executive functioning skills at
work and not have anything left to give myself. It's
like I would dead ass wag up at five am
at pace back and forth, start working at seb and
finished work at six, eat, sleep for dinner, and then
problem by at eight o'clock. And it's like a part
of me does feel insane by putting it on the

(11:06):
virtuar recession. But it's like, if I actually want to
build a future for myself and get there in one piece,
taking care of myself has to become my full time job.

Speaker 1 (11:17):
Taking care of myself has to become my full time job. Uh,
you can do that in work, I think, you know,
for me, you know, Okay Boomer, I get it, Okay, Boomer.
You know for an Okay Boomer, I'd say I'm a
little more than okay. I take care of myself and

(11:39):
I work six days a week. And many people think, oh,
all you do is just jack on the radio. Yeah,
you don't understand how much time ever, that energy goes
in to putting content together to do twenty three hours
of radio a week. By the way, twenty three hours
of radio where I don't take phone calls. No, I

(11:59):
want to tell you. There's so much to tell you
and so much to give you to think about. Then no,
we don't die. We don't do phone calls, neither of
these programs. There's all sorts of ways you can communicate
with me. Besides the old rotary dial telephone was.

Speaker 2 (12:14):
Not born to raise yourholder value. I'm actually want to
live a life, and I need to learn how to
be a person in order to do that.

Speaker 1 (12:22):
So so okay, all right, sweetheart, there you go. I
think that kind of personifies the stupid world that we
live in. You may know people like this. You may
work with people like this. You know, depending on your age,
you may have, you know, a child, you may have
an adult child like this. I don't know, but it

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scares the hell out of me for the future of
this republic, because how can we survive? You know, when
the video stops, she kind of does that little you
know how you know people will you know, kind of
bury their head in the pull their shoulder up and
bury their head over into their shoulder and then kind
of look at you with those you know, those baby

(13:06):
dark eyes and just kind of smile at you, like, see,
don't you really care about me? And I'm thinking I
want to choke you to death right now is what
I want to do. Don't give me those dark, sweet eyes. No,
I want to slap you into some seriousness. I want
to slap you into reality now. No, no, physically don't.
I'm crazy about that. But that's where we are. So

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let's think about let's let's get into some of these myths,
because I think she is a victim of these myths,
and I think she personifies the myths that are pervasive
in the country about economics in particular. But I could
go down the rabbit hole of politics or the culture

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or anything else, you know. Julian Simon once said that
false bad news is a very real social pollution and
the danger dangerous one will And that's that isn't just
about you know, say, misleading headlines or the sensationalism, or
for that matter, my point about social media that am

(14:13):
I seeing more stupidity or is there more stupidity or
is there just a combination of both. Either way, it's
a danger that shapes our society. It shapes our public policies,
and it shapes actually, think about that girl, it shapes
our very sense of what's possible. Here's she in her

(14:37):
myopic view of the world. She thinks she has a
binary choice, and that choice is either take care of
myself or work full time. Hmmm. I work full time
and take care of myself, and I pretty much have
because I got married at a very young age, had
children at a very young age. In fact, I had

(14:57):
a child when I was going through law school. So
I kind of I you know, and I'm again, I'm
not trying to pat myself on the back, but I
kind of know what it's like to work your ass off,
raise a family, and try to keep everything together. And
then you know, I heard Judge Piro Janine Pierro, who's

(15:22):
become the new US Attorney for the District of Columbia.
You know, she's a former prosecutor and she's a former
state judge in Westchester County, New York. She's now and
now being confirmed by the Senate. She is now the
US Attorney for the District of Columbia. I heard an
interview recently where she talks about, holy crap, I've never
worked so hard in my life, because when you're at

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that level of government. For example, when I was the
under Secretary of Homeland Security, it was now it's slightly
different than being the US Attorney, but not much. It's
a twenty four hour, seven day a week job. I
carried two cell phones. I never knew when the President
was going to call me. I never knew when a
disaster was going to occur. I never knew when something

(16:06):
was happening in another part of the world that affected us.
That I would get a call from somebody at the
CIA or the NSA that said, hey, listen, you need
to be aware that something's happening or overseas. So we're
kind of going up on alert here in this country,
and you need to be aware of in case you
have to respond. That happened all the time, all of
the time. Now, that's not to say that that the

(16:26):
bureaucrats work that way, but that's certainly the way that
many of the political appointees work. But I want us
to stop and think about free markets because this woman
is saying, the woman that you just heard is basically
saying that the free market doesn't allow her to take
care of herself and work full time. Well, the reality

(16:49):
is actually simple, and I think the reality is enduring
and has been for centuries, and that is that free
markets actually do work. Now, the challenge right now is
that so many people, I think, including her, kind of
doubt that truth, and that doubt is not a minor inconvenience.

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As much as I may mock that woman and laugh
at her, she has a very serious problem and she
personifies a very serious problem. And in fact, her attitude
is the soil in which all of these myths start
to grow, myths that drive misguided policies and ultimately make

(17:33):
everybody poor for it. I'll explain next this weekend with
Michael Brown. Text the word Michael Michael to three three
one zero three. I'll be right back tonight. Michael Brown
joins me here, the former FEMA director of.

Speaker 2 (17:49):
Talk show host Michael Brown.

Speaker 1 (17:50):
Brownie, no, Brownie, You're doing a heck of a job
the Weekend with Michael Brown. Hey, welcome back to the
Weekend with Michael Brown. Glad to have you joining me.
Appreciate you tuning in. And you know, I was just
talking to Michael out in Los Angeles during the break
and probably as good as time as anyge to remind
you that if you like what we do on the
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(18:12):
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(18:33):
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(18:53):
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and I want you to know how much I appreciate
you doing it. So let's go back to the woman.

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So she is really conflicted because she wants to take
care of herself. She says, she's really smart. She has
all these executive functions. She's at work by seven am,
she doesn't go home until six pm. And when I
heard that, I wanted to say, well, welcome to the
real world sometimes but you know, trying to be nice
to her. And then I'm thinking, but maybe you personify

(19:38):
someone who has been sucked into these myths that I
want to talk about. There's a book out that it's
kind of kind of dnse and I don't mean dense
in a negative way. I mean it's just kind of
a heavy reading. Former Congressman Phil Graham and now an

(20:03):
economist and Donald Boudreau have written a book called The
Triumph of Economic Freedom. The Triumph of Economic Freedom, and
I'd encourage you to go read it because that's kind
of the basis of what I want to talk about. Now,
are some of these myths that they address in that book.
So let's spend some time pulling back the curtain on

(20:26):
seven myths pardon me, that I think are deeply mistaken
myths that continue to guide government policy. Let's face the facts.
Myths persists because people believe myths. I take that statement

(20:48):
very very personally, I would put it. I would phrase
it this way. Myths, narratives, beliefs all kind of part
of the same genre. There are so many narratives about
me personally that have been established for over the past
twenty years, and those myths, those narratives, some are true,

(21:12):
some are faults, some are like where the hell that
come from? It has no basis in reality whatsoever. But
those get fixed in people's minds. And once they get
fixed in your mind, it's I don't care how much
data I throw at you. I don't care how many
affidavits or how much testimony, or how many you know,

(21:33):
actual reports that I give you, or congressional testimony or
whatever it is that might prove your myth about me
to be untrue. The myth becomes embedded and it becomes
very hard to dislodge. Now we're all susceptible to it,
including myself. People believe myths, and myths persist because people

(21:55):
believe in them. It's a it's a cycle. For example,
people believe that the New Deal ended the Great Depression
O FDR. I could go to my ninety four year
old mother right now and say, Mom, what ended the
Great Depression? Because she was a Depression era baby. What
was What was the end of that? Well was, oh, gosh,

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it was FDR. People believe that free Marcus caused the
Great Recession of two thousand and eight. Some people believe
that the Industrial Revolution increased poverty, much like they believe
that artificial intelligence is going to increase poverty, or that
free trade has stripped us bare, that we have no

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manufacturing that we have, that we don't produce anything, and
that's a that's an example of a myth that is
partly true, partly false. Have we lost a law of
our industrial base? Absolutely? But when you think about how
you know, you think about the Industrial revolution going from

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agricultural based economy to an industrial based economy. Did that
disrupt and displace things? Of course? But guess what, we're
all still eating. It's just that now our food comes, yes,
from farmers and ranchers in this country, but it's also
a free market enables me to have fresh raspberries that

(23:22):
come from chili twelve months out of the year. And
I promise you you cannot grow raspberries twelve months out
of the year in the United States of America. You
can for certain months of the year, but you can't
twelve months. But yet I can get fresh raspberries twelve
months out of the year. So free trade has not

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stripped us bare. Now, the other point I make about
these myths is that they're not trivial, because these myths
shape the very expansion of government that overhear those of
us on the right and maybe even some on the
left side of the political spectrum, but most of us
on the right side of the political spectrum worry about.

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If you believe, for example, a lot of conservatives do,
that this expansion has often done more harm than good,
then that matters a great deal that so much of
that is built on shaky ground. Now it might feel uncomfortable,
especially for those who champion liberty, to say that people's

(24:28):
beliefs can be socially harmful. After all, we rightly recoil
at any attempt to silence dissent, whether it's on climate
change that we talk about, I may if I talk
about that today, or it happens to be, you know,
whether or not the Texas Legislature has the power or

(24:49):
the authority to read district you know, mid senses, guess what, Yeah,
we do that. You may not like it, and you
may think it's wrong, and just because it's legal doesn't
necessarily make it. But it is legal and they can
do it. And in fact, it's something that we ought
to be talking about, and I'm glad we are talking
about it. But make no mistake that when bad or

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false information flourishes, a democratic, constitutional republic like ours suffers.
And why is that? It's because public opinion drives public policy.
Now to a certain degree, policy makers drive public opinion.

(25:32):
And I think Donald Trump is a master at that.
He takes something, for example, that you could take, well,
let's just take the census for example, when and We'll
get into this in more detail later. But when Trump
posted to truth social and to x that he wants
the Commerce Department to do a new census and not

(25:55):
count illegal aliens in this country, what did he do?
He started to drive political and public opinion. He brought
that debate to the forefront. Now, kind of underneath all
of the other stuff going on in the world. We

(26:15):
kind of on the peripheral edges talked about and have
thought about the idea that if you're not in the
country legally, then why should we count you in a
census that is going to apportion four hundred and thirty
five members of Congress among the fifty states Because you
can't vote, at least you shouldn't be voting, So why
should we count you. Now, if we want to count

(26:38):
just how many people are physically in all fifty states
at any given you know, period of time, say the
month of October of twenty thirty, well then that's fine,
But why not do another census right now? Because the
Constitution just says that Congress shall do one every ten years.
It doesn't prohibit Congress or for that matter, of these

(27:00):
executive branch from doing any other number of senses if
they want to. So while bad information flourishes and our
republic suffers from that. And that's because public opinion drives
public policy. Also, oftentimes public officials can drive what we

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think or what becomes an issue about public policy. When
when people critique, say the infamous Global two thousand study,
that report filled with all this eco dooms day, which
predicted all this growing poverty and hunger by the millennium.

(27:44):
Simon was one of the few that actually rejected those
forecasts because he showed that resources would not become scarce,
that people would not become poorer, and he was right.
Between nineteen eighty and two thousand, as the population soared

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from four point five to more than six billion, humanity
experienced a correlative nine percent drop in extreme poverty, a
forty three percent decline in death rates from malnutrition, harvests
of rice and wheat jump more than forty percent, and
life expectancy rose by six years. All of this why

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that Global two thousand study kept predicting all the doom
and they were wringing their hands, gnashing their teeth and saying, oh,
we're going to enter an era of shortage and era
of famine and exactly just the opposite happened. Yet the
tragedy is not just in the falsehood of that of
those predictions. It's in the consequences the policies. And I'll

(28:52):
explain that next. It's the Weekend with Michael Brown. Text
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(29:13):
keyword Michael, Michael. You know that the Industrial revel Let's
go through Oh as many as I can get through that.
If I can't, I maybe I'll do a few them
at the top of the hour. But the Industrial Revolution
did not impoverish workers. What happened. This is where I

(29:33):
think this goes back to my theory that poor public
education and to make it even to fine tune that
even more deliberately misleading public education. Where and I won't
even use the word Marxist, but let's say where liberal

(29:57):
teachers or ill informed or ignorant teachers don't know how
or don't teach history completely. They pick and choose the
history because if you if you're teaching that the Industrial
Revolution impoverished workers because it displaced workers, which it did,

(30:19):
that is factually correct. When we went from an agriculture
economy to an industrial economy, workers got displaced, but it
didn't impoverish workers. Actually, what happened was it unleashed the
Great Enrichment period and real wages in America went up.

(30:41):
They went up by one hundred and eighty nine percent
between the years eighteen sixty five and nineteen fifteen. Now
you want to tell me that workers were displaced, I'll say, yes,
they were. But if you want to make the narrative
or you have the belief that the Industrial Revolution impoverished workers,

(31:06):
you're wrong. And that's probably what you've been taught. But
when you look at the data, real wages in this
country increase by almost two hundred percent of that fifty
year period between the end of the Civil War in
nineteen fifteen, I would just be curious how many of

(31:28):
you have ever even heard that statistic. The progressive the
progressive era reforms were often pushed by dominant firms or
vengeful politicians, not desperate workers or consumers. We had regulation
of oil, railroads and meat packing often protected established interests. Okay,

(31:52):
but didn't some good come of that? Don't you really
want meat packing plants regulated? Look, I'm a libertarian slash conservative.
I want as minimal government as I can possibly get.
But the government that I do get, I want it

(32:12):
to be effective and I want it to be worthwhile.
By that, I mean, yeah, I want meatpacking plants inspected.
I want my USDA whatever grade to be inspected, and
I want it to be what they say it is,
and I want it to be done in a sanitary facility.
There's nothing wrong with that. You can be libertarian and

(32:34):
still maintain that there needs to be a certain level
of government to keep us functioning as a society. Another myth,
the Great Depression became so catastrophic not because of free markets,
but instead because of the federal reserves blunders in the

(32:56):
disasters interventions by Hoover and Roosevelt. Recovery from the Great
Depression only took off when government controls were peeled back
after World War II. Many people refuse to believe that
it wasn't federal reserved blunders. Yes were there, absolutely were.

(33:20):
The disasters interventions by both Hoover and Roosevelt absolutely, But
the recovery from the Great Depression really took off when
government controls got peeled back after World War II, and
far from being hollowed out, American manufacturing right now is
stronger than ever. Now. Less of our workforce is actually

(33:41):
on a factory floor, just as in every rich nation
in the entire world, but output has hit historic cause
fewer workers, greater productivity. So yes, people are being displaced,
and I think AI will do exactly the same thing.
But AI will create different kinds of jobs, and in fact,

(34:02):
at least for a certain period of time, the trades
will flourish like crazy. Because as you take a you know,
fifty square mile of rural America and turn it into
an AI data center, You're gonna have to build roads, bridges, highways.
You're gonna have to expand the power grid. You're going
to put in plumbing, electrical lines. You're gonna have to

(34:25):
have all sorts of maintenance workers, and then you're gonna
have to have the high technicians that work inside those
data centers. You're gonna have to have cooling, You're going
to have air conditioning, water, You're gonna have to have
everything for those data centers. To operate. The trades will flourish.
Other people might lose their jobs. You know, medical record keeping,

(34:45):
the one that comes to my mind, might become more
efficient as doctors learn to use a eye to you know,
track you know, my medical history for example. So far
from being hollowed out, a manufacturing is actually stronger than ever.
You take a company like Apple and their their announcement

(35:05):
that you know, they're actually gonna put six hundred billion
dollars into corning in some others to manufacture the glass
that goes onto your iPad or your watch or your
iPhone or whatever. Yes, it'll be manufactured in this country,
but it might not be assembled in this country. Your
watch or your iPhone, your iPad, your MacBook pro will
be oh, it'll be assembled in not necessarily Communist China,

(35:30):
but maybe India or Vietnam, you know, allies, people that
we actually do trade with and don't try to steal
all of our intellectual property. So those changes are naturally occurring.
But our belief in oh my gosh, it took all
these government programs in the Great Depression. No, not at all,

(35:55):
not at all beliefs to get embedded. You know, there's
still a couple of others. So let's let's go through
a couple of more before we switch topics. So stay tuned.
It's the weekend with Michael Brown. Texts. Any question or
comments you have to three three one three three one
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