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Speaker 1 (00:12):
Good afternoon and welcome to the muster on Hockinui. My
name's Andy Muir. I'm here until two o'clock. Thanks to
Peters and Alex. Thanks very much for your company. On
a rather dreary start to the afternoon. Here as a
lookover Main Street and Gore. We'll talk a with a
short leaves straight onto it. The music today is female
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to Dance with Somebody, an absolute banger from days gone past.
Speaker 2 (00:45):
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The proof is in the progeny Teffron dot co dot nz. Oh,
that's a banger for a Tuesday in which seas are
an afternoon with cooler weather's showers of brisk westerlies and
a high of twelve. Wednesday partly cloudy with breezy northwesterlyes
eleven and seventeen. That's the thing for Thursday, partly cloudy
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with breezy norwesters eleven and twenty. Friday sunny with northwester's
six and eighteen, and on Saturday it says clear sky,
so we'll take that as blue sky, shall we? With
breezy northwesterlies eight and nineteen, So we'll see what happens
there over the next couple of days, shall we? So
temperatures Clinton nine, Northern South and eight point eight, Riverton ten,
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Tianna nine point one, Tindera at nine point six, Winter
and eight point six and Woodlands coming in at nine
point one. With Nigel Johnston Farming and Mabel Bush starting
the muster off, followed up by Tory Tremaine and a
batterment Crookshank Pride to lawyers talking in corporated societies. It's
something we've talked about before, but changes with incorporated societies,
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which is what Tory wants to talk about today. Grant disaster, Macmas,
you're a close friend. Station has a young Karl Erickson
from Environment Southend's on the program, and then Jack Smith
out of ten now Young Farmers has a chat. Sam
Riley from PGG writs and gives us an update from
the Lawnville sale. Then we crank into it with Nigel Johnston.
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Speaker 1 (02:41):
Nigel Johnston joins US farming at Mabel Bush. Nigel, good afternoon.
We spoke to you six weeks ago we'd had a
kind winter, but we fast forward to the present and
it's been a challenging season.
Speaker 3 (02:53):
It's correct, good Andy, it's very weird un before to
the place.
Speaker 1 (02:58):
Okay, So put it into texts as to what we
had twelve months ago, which I've been doing with a
few people this week. From your position, how would you
rate it?
Speaker 3 (03:08):
It feels as bad as last year, but you only
have to check the photos and videos that shared last
year to see that it's nothing like it. In physical
conditions for us, we just vary. We're struggling with paster utilization,
but we haven't had the same rainfalls.
Speaker 1 (03:26):
Last You say you want to take in the check obviously.
Speaker 3 (03:32):
Yeah, So to put some numbers around it, where we're
eighteen fifty cover, I thought with our low stocking rate
we'd get by without without having to put supplement into
milking cares, but that all changed last week, so there's
cover dropping. We're now of six kilos of daily to
day into milk and cares and just and decided to
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push the round link back out against it. We've gone
it back to a forty day round and try and
get the grass.
Speaker 1 (04:00):
And yeah, last time we spoke to you, I think
your covers are around twenty four hundred. Everything was looking
not too bad.
Speaker 3 (04:06):
Yeah, so i'd actually need a found with that much grass.
And now now we've got it all well to be beer.
We've got it all down care struts and tended them
to which really.
Speaker 1 (04:17):
Well, that's a pleasing factor. I suppose having the winter
playball the way, especially through July where it can be
your weirdest or your driest months, certainly the driest and
a lot of areas, but even into August when you're
starting to get into carving Nigel as such, it gives
you a bit of a starting base, I suppose, because
like anything, the challenges get provided.
Speaker 3 (04:36):
Yeah, yeah, basue they do. But it's I suppose it's
we were talking of the year, it's about how you
look after yourself and the people around you. It's I've
got a good work being out. We've talked more about
the group them play squash with on them today. It's
nice to get out, compare some war stories and actually
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to pin each other on the deck completely out doing
some really good thanks.
Speaker 1 (05:01):
Now it does mental health Awareness week, so it's a
great way to talk about the subject, Nigel. And yes,
I've met the other people involved one John O Pemberdin
amongst others as well the Gorge Road Squash Club. But
you guys meet up every Monday evening around five point thirty,
don't you just for a couple of hours just to
chew the fat.
Speaker 3 (05:19):
Yeah, yeah, and it's yeah, it's quite good. I don't
feel bad about my low level of squash ability. It's
just a chance to get out, have some fitness and
the conversation.
Speaker 1 (05:31):
So you do actually play squash, is that right?
Speaker 3 (05:33):
Yeah, that's correct. I think last time we were talking,
I have been nursing a bit of an injury this year,
but each squash has played conversations ahead well formers.
Speaker 1 (05:42):
Temporary class is permanent on the squash court.
Speaker 3 (05:47):
Sorry I missed it.
Speaker 4 (05:49):
Now.
Speaker 1 (05:49):
One thing about squash is that formerst temporary, but class
is always permanent, is it not.
Speaker 3 (05:55):
Oh yeah, yeah, exactly, Yeah, I go for the conversation.
Speaker 1 (06:00):
Yeah, fair enough too, because when every season is just
challenging you with different things, and everybody's got different scenarios
and situations if you're having to deal with, so just
showing the fat through is a great hour. Is that
what you find about your your conversations on the Monday, Nigel,
is that just because everybody had chance just to vent
and get it out of their system, do you go
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home with a bit more of a clear headset? Would
you say?
Speaker 5 (06:24):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (06:24):
And that's I mean, that's just a group of print
Well spend the Monday night with I'm actually heading away
very shortly to a during New Zealand discussion group with
head running and see how thin sort of ten years now,
which is the group of farmers that looked like he
house once today. So we're heading up to White Caller
today and I find that really good too because it's
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again a group of people that aren't afraid to share
the numbers around you bus must send and also the
drivers of what would makes the whole thing picked for them.
Speaker 1 (06:56):
So I'll take a guess you're right to alistair manns.
Speaker 3 (06:58):
No alistair Alice's to tractor. We'll spend time with.
Speaker 1 (07:02):
That ah right, good on your heart. So how have
you found the once today's system At the moment, arguably
it probably works in your favor, or even it feeds
tighter on imagine.
Speaker 3 (07:15):
Uh and heary. But in practice we're we're still doing
over one point eight of cow, which is all we
used to speak out in the olden days on twice
a day anyway, So it's you there's still there's still
four hundred solds the cow. Ye, they're milking cows. They
need to be bead and they need to be looked after,
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very similar what we used to do.
Speaker 1 (07:38):
So when you went deary in just to go over
old ground again, Nigel, but you started going once a
day from where we go.
Speaker 3 (07:45):
When we bought our farm, So we did seven years
shere milking on a property next order where we are
now milking twice a day, and then when we bought
the farm. So this cow, she's never milk heres in
the afternoon since we've been here. It's two and thirty.
Speaker 1 (08:03):
How do you find the dynamics? I know we've talked
about this before, but I still find it pretty intriguing
as well, because a lot of people that do the
ones today say that it evens itself out in the
long run. Perhaps.
Speaker 3 (08:13):
Yeah, my demember at the moment is that we're missing
out on a lager, non pullden feed that I don't
think we'd fully utilized in the Onnesterday system. So this
was high milk price. Have we been missing out on
a bet and know it's low milk prices? Like like
the three dollars ninety payout time we actually we paid
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the dairy base would tell us we were better off
than many of our tist state canidate.
Speaker 6 (08:41):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (08:41):
I just like the low cost Bow Streets system and
it's enabled us and pretty good people around us that
have been here a long time.
Speaker 1 (08:49):
Yes, certainly, And I remember talking to you last time
as well, like no caps are on before eight am.
Speaker 3 (08:55):
Yes, and no one on fam before eight am. Unfortunately
this spring there was here just for eight o'clock, so
I had to break my own rule just to meet
my commitments.
Speaker 1 (09:07):
Heaven forbid a dairy farmer had to be in the
shed at seven thirty. Yeah, but it's a great way
to look at the philosophy too. Now do everybody's got
different ideas and the way they want to run their operations.
So hey, if it work's in your favor, all power
to you.
Speaker 7 (09:22):
Right, Yeah, and it's I've done a bit of thinking.
We've got a or sort of mentor a few people
that are looking at sheer mocking at the moment, and
that's really.
Speaker 3 (09:33):
Cool to have a closer look at some of these systems,
the numbers they're running, the performance they've had in the
last couple of years. There's there are some great people
out there on wages and contract milking and looking to
get through the system.
Speaker 1 (09:47):
Absolutely, just before we wrap up, we two about carving.
You've only got a few lates to go.
Speaker 3 (09:52):
Yeah, we chose, and I'm quite pleased about that. We
chose to leave the balls and longer last year and
and get a few more cows around us so we
could do some colling. So we've still got chaos to
the cave over the next three weeks, but we're only
waiting for the thirty offers. Really is to manch well.
Speaker 1 (10:12):
The good news as the forecast, I'm looking at a
good lens here, But nonetheless, over what a we seeing
for the next five four or five days, we are
getting temperatures into the middle teens, even going into the
twenties on Thursday. For goodness sake, so log made this.
These these hotter temperatures, if we can call them hotter,
or anything's hotter than having five degrees long way to continue.
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We see the grass grow.
Speaker 3 (10:34):
Right, that's my plan and that's why we decided to
put the feed and now pushing around down to get
some grass in front of us and just reset.
Speaker 1 (10:43):
Hey good only Nigel leave it there. Always appreciate your time,
and like I say, the sun will come out tomorrow.
Is any once sung?
Speaker 4 (10:49):
Awesome?
Speaker 1 (10:50):
Thanks Andy, Nigel Johnston of Mabel Bush. You're listening to
the muster. Next we're speaking to Tory Tremaine out of
Benaman Crookshank Pride talking about incorporated societies and something you
need to know what This is the muster on Hakanoi.
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Tory Tremaine of Bannerman Crooksheng Pride. The lawyers joins us next. Tory,
good afternoon, how are you.
Speaker 8 (11:25):
I'm very good? Thank you Andy, how are you well?
Speaker 1 (11:27):
A little bit of big yellow will be appreciated. But
the forecaster give the glass half full approach. Is looking
better for the next three or four days.
Speaker 8 (11:35):
Yes, it'll be good to see you. The some out
game get from Vitamin it's certainly makes a difference to
everybody when you can get out on tory.
Speaker 1 (11:44):
We're talking today about a topic we've talked about previously
that nonetheless it is so relevant and hopefully a lot
of groups aren't going to get caught out around this.
It's around changes to incorporated societies. Now. I watched The
Castle on TV, one of the best movies ever made
my opinion, and Dennis Denuto the lawyers, said, it's the
vibe as the constitution, it's the law. But there's so
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much more that needs to go into this regarding incorporated
societies and what you need to realize.
Speaker 8 (12:12):
Yes, that's right in certainly is the castle has been
closed for many a time in history. But in terms
of constitutions for incorporated societies, as you've alluded to, there
has been some real changes or some legislation changes around that,
and essentially there's a whole new piece of legislation that
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now covers incorporated societies and what they have to do.
And one of the new parts of that that has
been brought in is all incorporated societies need to reregister
on the incorporated societies registered before the fIF of April
twenty twenty six and as we all know, that date
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will roll around fairly quickly because we're already heading towards
mid October, so that doesn't give us much time when
we look at the Christmas dates from there in holiday times.
So yeah, the I guess major change there is that
people need to look at the constitutions that any societies
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that they are part of, which can be sports clubs,
any sort of legal entity really that owns propertied like
in terms of it there has a membership, probably has
a constitution and that needs to be reviewed and one
times out of ten or nineteen nine percent of the
case will need to be updated because there are some
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rules that have come in that new constitutions need to
include and historically constitutions that already won't cover those rules.
Speaker 1 (13:52):
So why are these changes occurring?
Speaker 8 (13:55):
So the changes have occurred because the historical and core
raded societies at was created back in nineteen eight, so
that's quite some time ago now, and the rules need
to change. Really in terms of how incorporated societies operate.
There are a lot more sophisticated in corporated societies out
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there now who are in business, own significant assets, and
people who are in charge of those incorporated societies need
to I guess the government has identified that those people
need to be not how to count essentially, but subject
to some more duties and some more clear rules around
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how those as sets are managed on behalf of the
members of their society. So just really some more accountability
and to bring the old laws up to date with
I guess new more modern practices that people engage in
these days.
Speaker 1 (14:55):
Straight off the caf sport organizations are the ones who
are most likely to be caught out of around this
is a message in getting out there that they didn't
need to go through and go over their constitution.
Speaker 8 (15:07):
I think so, But I do think it's a little
bit hedden mess because we have had a fair number
of organizations come to us asking for us to review update,
help them out with the process, and obviously the message
has got through to those groups that then there are
other groups that you speak to and they just haven't
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got much of an idea about what they need to do,
when they need to do it by, or how they
would even go about it. It sort of a don't
know where to start, so I'm not going to start situation.
But unfortunately, when the system April rolls around next year,
if you haven't reregistered under the new actors a new
or updated constitution, you' in corporate as a society won't
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exist as a legal entity anymore. So it's if there
will be a process I guess after the fact to
be able to resolve that issue. But obviously that's not
ideal because it's probably going to add some time pressure
and probably more cost to things and more stress to
your committee at that time. So yeah, I think the
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majority of groups and organizations have understood that, but there
are the odd odd ones that don't necessarily know or
they don't know where to start. So that's the issue
I guess to get that we want to bridge.
Speaker 1 (16:27):
Yeah, that was my next question Tory, just how complicated
is it to go over the constitution.
Speaker 8 (16:33):
It's not necessarily that complicated. I think there's a lot
of information out there online that you can find and
I do think that that possibly does people feel like
it's a complicated process. We have had. Yeah, as I've
said already in this chat, some groups that have already
come across a desk with updating their constitutions, and sometimes
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it's just a matter of flotting a few extra clauses
into an already existing constitution, because it's already pretty good
and modern and in line with what the new laws say.
On the other hands, there are some other societies out
there that have had the same constitution, maybe with a
couple of amendments over the years, that could be a
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good forty fifty years old. Those are the ones that
are probably taking where they are taking a bit more
effort to I guess they're a bit of a rewrite
and an update, because there are some modern practices that
need to be pulled in there as well, just to
make it more consistent with what's actually happening on the
ground when people are having their meetings and making decisions
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on behalf of their members. So it's not too complicated,
but there are some new I guess terms that people
need to become familiar with that the new law has
sort of introduced, and that's probably There's some information around
conflicts of interests and officers and committee members and a
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little bit of new terminology in there, which people probably
do need to get their heads around, because the law
refers to all of that now, and therefore constitutions are
more largely than not going to refer to that new terminology.
Speaker 1 (18:17):
As well, because worst case scenario, a liquid data comes
into play if it hasn't been resolved and as well
actually being dissolved as an organization as well. So there
are ramifications, yes, absolutely so.
Speaker 8 (18:31):
A classic example would be if a society doesn't reregister
vehicle next year but owns a piece of land somewhere
that the achounism investment or for whatever purpose that aligns
with the objects of their society, there'll essentially be no
legal owner of that land anymore, and it's a bit
of a process to the society registered on there so
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that that piece of lengths can be dealt with in
the way that it needs without its essentially becoming part
of I guess unclaimed properly that things up ultimately back
with the government. So yeah, when you're part of a
society of one of your main duties really is to
be you know, managing the essex on behalf of the
members to the befit of the society. So if you
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don't go through the process of updoating your procution and reregistering,
you're you're not really meeting your obligations. Has been one
of the officers to use the new terminology of the
society so there can be there will be similiplications if
these societies don't take the steps they need to soon
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or rather than later, to reregister.
Speaker 1 (19:43):
So Tori, if somebody needs to get in touch with Benamin, Crukshing,
Benamin Crookshing Pride, talk about incorporated societies, how do they
get in touch?
Speaker 8 (19:51):
You sure they think of my South for Paul Office
number years three two O nine one eight three.
Speaker 1 (20:00):
Your Tory, you always got to catch up, great thick
dingd Tory, Tremaine of Betterman, Crookshing Pride, the lawyers. You
don't need any excuses to quote the castle Denis de Muto,
as the vibe, as the Constitution. It's Marbo brilliant movie.
We carry on, Grand Disaster, mac Master, closeper in station.
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We check next.
Speaker 3 (20:24):
I can't.
Speaker 1 (20:39):
Grand Disaster. Mac Master joins us thanks to Abby Rural.
He is, of course on the edge of a late
Walker tipper, but close bar in station. Grant, good afternoon,
and everybody.
Speaker 5 (20:49):
I'm on edge, did I am? Thanks to this new
communication system. I'm good. I'm speaking here from here at
mot Lake, So yeah, I'm pretty pleased with it.
Speaker 1 (20:58):
That's a game change for you. Having technology we can
cruise around the farm and still have reception.
Speaker 5 (21:02):
Though it's a game change, and we have technology to
be able to understand it.
Speaker 1 (21:06):
Andy, well, you can use iHeart Radio. That's the main
thing I can.
Speaker 5 (21:10):
I'm all over there. Yeah, and Spotify.
Speaker 1 (21:13):
Oh good man, gee you get It's like saying you've
got country m Weston.
Speaker 9 (21:16):
Well done, dead right?
Speaker 1 (21:19):
So how are we looking up the disaster? Last time
we spoke to you, it was wet. Dare I say
it has there been any change?
Speaker 6 (21:26):
Yeah, it's got wetter.
Speaker 5 (21:27):
Oh right, you know it's another sixty five mills since
you and I spoke last Tuesday. I think the sore
tempters then were about seven point five or something. Well
began creash up to seven point eight today. So, but
the ground is pretty boody saturated and over the over
the Hell's Block, yesterday's plat paddocks here that normally drained
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all right, Well, you know just about got had a
bit of a job getting across him just with the
with the surface water. So it's seeping away. But you
know it snows. Snow's well down again from last over
laps from last night, and the old barometer it's it
hasn't changed it for X it's gone back a little bit.
So yeah, that the sun cut has been out briefly,
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but it's saying twelve degrees on the on the truck
temperature gauge. But it certainly doesn't feel like that outside.
You know, still got the heaven and the coat on,
but it's not raining. So judas dark lamb and commandment,
as we spoke on here, we've got the premium lamb
already one was born today, so look out, don't have
to keep that one separate when it goes on the.
Speaker 1 (22:31):
Lorry congratulations on that. By the way, you're a shortsman,
aren't you. You're like Ben Dowley and blockout.
Speaker 5 (22:38):
I'm a shorts man when the after labor weekend, but
not beforehand.
Speaker 1 (22:43):
Has it always been like that? I thought you were
a three sixty five man wearing shorts.
Speaker 5 (22:47):
No, no, not no, only shorts I have. I have
a few shorts and a glass with whiskey sometimes on
that short but no, no, I'm I'm bloody stupid enough
without doing that all year round. So your leg as
skinny as mine. You don't have much to come and
go on, so keep them covered about labor weekend and
then then give the son to flight then.
Speaker 1 (23:08):
You happy enough. You're not labbing until tomorrow though, the
way the weather's.
Speaker 5 (23:11):
Been, Oh that's just management andy, No, I.
Speaker 1 (23:14):
Suppose it isn't a way they're having one early lamb.
That's someone's going to be someone's comfortable for that.
Speaker 5 (23:19):
Grunt blind there will get the brain for that, or
carry chick or they won't.
Speaker 1 (23:24):
Be me fair enough. Bus is cool. So in general though,
you just as late last week just a little bit wetter,
and they talk about breaking records but unfortunately for the
wrong reasons. It's wetter than last year.
Speaker 5 (23:36):
Yeah it is, and and it's it's greened up. Now
we've got a tinge of green over the hill. We're
not in all of it, but it's you know, I
just round at the MoWT Late Flats this morning and
haven't been around there for a few days, and it's
just it's just sort of greening up. Not a lot
of feed there, but it's green. And some of the
paddocks around the wall shed are greenish. But you know,
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I've got a two cows I wouldn't mind bringing around
into them, but it's just not the cover there yet.
Speaker 1 (24:04):
Absolutely. Now you want to make coming today around vet
clinics you've seen an article in the paper a couple
of days ago the head you're thinking, yeah.
Speaker 5 (24:11):
I did, and it was it was nasty emotional behavior
from pet owners, many dog owners, I imagine, and towards
vets and their and their staff. So I find it
quite quite incredible, really because I think nowadays that you know,
there's everybody it's the god given right to have her
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one or two dogs and to take them into shops
and pubs and parks, and most of them, to be fair,
I'm very well mannered and I've probably talked about it before.
Most of the tradesmen around Queenstown and there's thirty one,
hundreds and hundreds of them, I've all got at least
one dog in a vehicle when they pull up, so
it doesn't have any close to URMI got a policy
no dogs on the property, and you know they had
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to work not to get dogs run around. So and
a bit different with us. You know that we've got
stock around the residential area and.
Speaker 3 (24:58):
What have you.
Speaker 5 (24:59):
But you know, so basically the that's the challenge and
staff and clinics with vets and nurses and so that
these owners are Some of these owners are saying that
the according to this article that the and this is
from the Veterory Council, that owners come in and say, Okay,
you've been ripping us off. You shouldn't be charging this
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much for our pets, and you know you need your
vets are meant to care about animals, so so why
why charge us? And so a lot of vets now
will have clients on what should say a lot but
in the article said that some vets are now refusing
to deal with these people. I think that's a great idea,
and I know what I deal with them, but you
know that they're saying what you hear the public. The
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public seemed to be confusing human medicine, which is subsidized,
with unsubsidized animal medicine. So I can see where these
probably push for peas insurance comes in. But you know
that just this article will have to say that the
the profession as a high attrition rate. Really so you know,
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the first the five years of training, which sort of
that sorts a lot out, but apart from that, they
say only forty vets and twenty six percent of vet
nurses will remain in the in the in the in
the profession into retirement and They put that down to
with you know, remuneration, work place culture, mainly with a
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lot of dealing with the public and the harassment and
an inflexable work environment. So excuse me. It's it's quite ironic,
is that you know, as farmers, we use the vets,
and you think of vets as as servicing the farming sect,
which they do. But I know from up here at
at the time, is that I've had to take a
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dog into the vet. It's you know, it's really geared
up for the in places like this and commandin the cities,
technical saying obvious reasons, but geared up for for the
for the public that live in the for the for
the population live in the towns, and you know, you
go and there and there's everything from gloody pink collars
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to dogs come out wearing bandelnas. So it's certainly a
bit of a mindset and that mind change it is.
Speaker 1 (27:14):
And the thing is, you know, you recognize the role.
So especially here, we catch up with the team for
many his feats every couple of weeks. Shout out Morgy
Andrew and the crew. They do an outstanding job. You
go in there and they've got the utmost care and
respect for your animals as it expects. So you're always
going to have a portion of society that just grumpy buggers. Unfortunately.
Speaker 5 (27:33):
Oh that's when you get back to likes of you
and Miller and great Venue and you know those in
his day they had to be train in Melbourne. So
you know, I speak of the long history with the
Vets and what they've done and and the way we
are able to farm. But you know, it's it's nowadays
it's everybody blaming every other bugger for what's not their fault.
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And I just think, you know, the people don't actually realize,
excuse me, what's involved in owning pits. And that's all
very well, getting a dog and then another one and
then not looking after that. COVID was a classic example,
wasn't it.
Speaker 1 (28:09):
Yes, absolutely it was. Hey, great words is always disaster.
Always appreciate your time. And here's hoping the sun comes out.
It's duty down here anyway. Don't worry.
Speaker 5 (28:18):
No, it's just coming out again now. So when we're
we're sitting up at eleven degrees, So Mike, get those
shorts out of a couple of days earlier.
Speaker 1 (28:25):
Ready, good you Grant always appreciate your time.
Speaker 5 (28:27):
Yeah, talk next week.
Speaker 1 (28:30):
Grant the Master thanks to ab Rural. Up next from
Environment south When Cal Erickson, you're listening to the Master.
(28:51):
The theme for the music this afternoon is female power ballads.
Of course Seline Dion there, it's all coming back to
me now from about nineteen you're listening to the muster.
Up next is Carl Eriksson here has fresh water program
lead for Environment Southland and the slot which is sponsored
by Environment Southland. Carl, good afternoon. Luckily I asked you
(29:12):
off here if you're a fan of Selene because that
would have been right up your ally.
Speaker 6 (29:17):
Yeah, afternoon, end of the year. No, I don't mind
a bit of Selene theon and I think it's appropriate
that that part where she says it's all coming back,
because that's a bit like the farm plan space.
Speaker 1 (29:28):
I guess at the moment that's a hell of a segue. Cal,
we are talking about farm plans today, so straight off
a cuff, I suppose, look what's happening as far as
a farm play spare farm plans space.
Speaker 6 (29:40):
Well, yeah, we've been getting on with things here at
Environment Southland. We've got a new team in place now
India and it's it's here to support farmers and getting
help and advice and resources for their farm plans. So yeah,
that teem's been in place for a good six weeks
or so now, and we're also we've got other things
(30:02):
on We've we've been creating guidance material that's now being finalized,
so that includes the Southland water and land plan requirements
as well as the freshwater stuff, so that guidances will
be out next week.
Speaker 1 (30:18):
Yes.
Speaker 6 (30:18):
Of course, then everyone knows that the areas the farm
plans are on pores and that the Ministry obviously the
Environment are looking to make some adjustments to the regulation.
So we've been talking with government officials and trying to
get a sort of an understanding of where things are
going to land. And of course, as the regulations currently
stand and those are keywords there, and the Southern farmers
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and growers have until May twenty twenty six to submit
them for certification. So I do want to say that
that time frame might well change once those national regulations
are finalized. But the key message really is is that
we know that certified farm plans will be required for
most of Southern farmers. So from now we're encouraging people
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to keep collecting that relevant information about the farm and
of course starting now is going to put you in
a better position to get some understanding and put you
in a good position for when those changes are announced
and we are ready to go again and the pause
button comes off.
Speaker 1 (31:20):
Yeah, you talk about new advisors on board regarding the
farm plans. What's what's the situation there.
Speaker 6 (31:26):
Yeah, well there's there's four farm plan advisors and myself
who's managing the team. Yeah, they've been they've been engaging
with farmers really over the last six weeks. Got a
group of farmers that are interested in working on their
farm plans, and yeah, they've been quite busy, and yeah,
talking to a lot of people. It's been really great
(31:48):
to see. Just to reiterate, you know, we you know,
we offer that support and advice and in the farm
planning aspects and also resources like those aerial maps and
images and in lines that need to be drawn on
and things like that. We can help with that sort
of stuff too. And of course we're completely focusing on
the things that we know we're not likely to change,
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and of course I just want to acknowledge that they're uncertainty.
It is difficult. It's difficult to that for us to
live with, there's difficult for everyone else to live with.
But we know that farm plans are they're not going away.
They're going to be, you know, a really important tool
for farming businesses and addressing environmental water quality issues at
this point.
Speaker 1 (32:30):
So yeah, So as far as support for farmers, what's available.
Speaker 6 (32:36):
Yeah, So we've got that farm the FAMI plane, the
family and Advisor team, and then we're also hosting some
dropping sessions over the next two weeks starting from Tuesday
and Attato and Wednesday into a Tepardy so the week
after that will be in Winton and Gore. So yeah,
we we advise people to have a look on the
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environments up and website and the events you can see
that and times exactly. And of course farmers do have
the opportunity to book a pre a pre booking time
with a farm plan advisor to have a bit of
a chat and we can provide some personalized device and
perhaps print some mats for you and just talk you
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through the next steps of farm plan And if the
farmers want to continue to engage with us, well we're
quite happy to continue to work and help people all
through that process.
Speaker 1 (33:28):
So it's a key message here, Car any concerns, just
get in touch.
Speaker 6 (33:32):
That's all right, just get in touch with us. And yeah,
so it's this is a it's no additional cost, it's
a free service. And so we're we're here to help
and we're happy to help. So yeah, yeah, So if
people can't make a session, then yeah, please give us
a call or email us at farm Plans at es
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it's f A R M P L A N S
E S dot g O V T dot m z,
or just go to the website as I've seen on
the forward slash fans ceni of information there.
Speaker 1 (34:05):
Good only Carl, always appreciate your time.
Speaker 6 (34:08):
Hi problem Mendy gets your Saint.
Speaker 1 (34:13):
Cal Erickson Freshwater Program Lead and Environments Southland. Before we
wrap up for the hour, Jack Smith from Tiana Young
Farmers and.
Speaker 4 (34:24):
I can tell.
Speaker 1 (34:33):
Welcome back to the muster the gor Pekiki Lions and
your book sales kicking off the ninth of October. That's
this Thursday. That money rais is going towards the Lions
Cancer Trust free skin cancer screening bus. Tell you one
thing about these box sales that the gor Pakiki Lions do.
I was after the rape Enu with the complete series
I couldn't find nineteen eighty five. My wife managed to
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find it there, along with a couple of duplicates of
other years as well. So if you have after something
random like that, like a sports book, as I was,
or you want just something to read as you go
through the spring motions, well here's something there to consider.
That's a go. Pakiki Lions and your books sailed kicking
under way this Thursday, as we catch up next with
Jack Smith, out of Young Farmers. Of course, he's based
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over at Burwood Station. Good afternoon, Jack. How are you.
Speaker 4 (35:22):
Yourself?
Speaker 1 (35:23):
Oh? Not too bad? Are you a bit of a
book nut?
Speaker 5 (35:26):
Yeah?
Speaker 8 (35:27):
Actually?
Speaker 4 (35:27):
I actually reader? Actually?
Speaker 8 (35:29):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (35:30):
What are you into? Like the Wilversmiths and the likes
or what ye do?
Speaker 4 (35:35):
All the books about the local helicopter pilot legends and yes,
a lot of hunting books for a sport books?
Speaker 1 (35:43):
Yeah, like you like me? Like the non fiction you
can't go wrong with that. Now. Firstly, you're over at
Burwood Station. We're talk Young Farmers shortly, but how's your
season been today?
Speaker 4 (35:52):
Yeah? Good god? Yeah, we're sort of in the in
that funny stage was at Lemming, where it's still real
cold and as much paid about is what we'd like.
Speaker 1 (36:01):
But we're doing pretty well all things considering because you're
only cranking and the Lemming properly at the moment.
Speaker 5 (36:07):
Is that right?
Speaker 6 (36:08):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (36:09):
Pretty?
Speaker 1 (36:09):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (36:09):
Main Line started a sort of last Wednesday really, so yeah.
Speaker 1 (36:14):
A couple of weeks great from this weather hopefully, Hey
to on our young farmers. Your events coordinated there and
esteems titled they have mine to because if nobody organized
the stuff, it doesn't happen.
Speaker 4 (36:24):
Right, Yeah, yeah exactly, and we've we've got an awesome
team here as well.
Speaker 6 (36:29):
So yeah, it's good.
Speaker 4 (36:32):
Good heaven then behind you.
Speaker 1 (36:33):
So what's coming up with you guys? What's been happening?
Speaker 5 (36:36):
Oh?
Speaker 4 (36:36):
I got that big one this Saturday. We've got our
barkup on Saturday night. Nice, so yeah, really a lot
of months work put into that and we're really really
looking forward to it.
Speaker 6 (36:47):
So it's it's our third one in a row.
Speaker 4 (36:50):
And yeah, they just they just keep getting better every year,
I think, and.
Speaker 1 (36:53):
Sponsorship and everything for these events, everybody's quite happy to
put into it. As the money going towards anything in particular, yep.
Speaker 4 (37:00):
Yeah, we're donating half of our money back to the
Fiordland Marine Search and Rescue.
Speaker 1 (37:05):
Awesome.
Speaker 4 (37:06):
Yeah, they play a big part in their community, so
it's always good to.
Speaker 6 (37:08):
Go back now.
Speaker 1 (37:09):
They do a missive massive part for the community. Were
your base because you're pretty much isolated.
Speaker 4 (37:13):
The yeah, exactly, and they pretty much cover the whole
sort of o CF Island as well. It's just yeah,
they're just based in Tiana there so and yeah, all
all of these they're all volunteers from Tianre.
Speaker 1 (37:26):
So so what time does it get underway on Friday?
Speaker 4 (37:30):
We're five o'clock on Friday at the Rugby Club.
Speaker 1 (37:35):
This is event obviously, it takes all even the planning
on imagine.
Speaker 4 (37:38):
Oh definitely, yeah, I think we've probably started planning this
back in May, so yeah, we're definitely yeah, definitely a
lot of work going into us and we've brought a
lot of hard work for everyone, especially with sponsorship.
Speaker 1 (37:51):
Is this one of your key fundraisers for the club
as well? Would you say?
Speaker 4 (37:54):
Yeah, this was probably a big one for the year. Yeah,
and which is really good as well. We're not just
fundraising for a fundraising to put back into into the
community as well.
Speaker 1 (38:03):
Because you guys go and pick up rocks and stuff too.
Speaker 3 (38:06):
Is that right, Yeah, a fear bit of rock.
Speaker 4 (38:10):
Yeah. And then on the last couple of weeks we
went through Pune, the whole of the pine trees and
just yeah, the old men men, the old barbecue here
and there.
Speaker 1 (38:21):
That's what it's all about. That, I mean, the tailing
season coming out to do you guys do any tails?
Speaker 4 (38:26):
Yeah, yeah, we'll just line come up for first week
in the November. Watchfully, I'm definitely looking forward to it.
Speaker 1 (38:33):
I think everybody will. By the time you get to November.
You do for I don't know, I'd say r and
ems off farm, which means go go out there and
do something and reconnect.
Speaker 4 (38:43):
Definitely, and hopefully in the sunshine.
Speaker 1 (38:45):
Hopefully in the sunshine. So as far as meetings and that,
you guys have been you've had your meetings through the
spring season.
Speaker 4 (38:52):
Yeah, we've got our got our monthly meeting coming up
tomorrow night.
Speaker 1 (38:56):
Actually no, I'm nice one of the details around that.
Speaker 4 (38:58):
Then we're at the at the town now Workmen's Club
and yeah, so just seven o'clock onwards.
Speaker 1 (39:05):
Just yeah, just just rock up. There's worse places to
go for a meeting.
Speaker 4 (39:11):
Oh exactly. And the biggest thing is for anyone but
dubious about coming along. You don't, you don't have to
be a farmer. We've we've we've got a good a
good group of people in our club who aren't farmers,
which is awesome.
Speaker 1 (39:23):
Is that something that people don't realize of young farmers.
It's open to anybody, regardless of trade occupation.
Speaker 3 (39:29):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (39:30):
Yeah, that's a big thing for a lot of people.
And I guess I guess the name the name was
pretty off puttings, I suppose, But that's the same thing
with our bark up this weekend, Like you're like, you don't,
you don't have to be a shepherd or anything to
come along, you know, Like we've got a whole whole
pet section there. There's some some pretty awesome prizes.
Speaker 1 (39:48):
So what else you've got coming up after this? This
will be your big event obviously, But any fundraising efforts
of the Lights heading you through late spring?
Speaker 4 (39:57):
Yeah, well, a few weeks ago we had our bugs
the southlan Edmonton conversation.
Speaker 1 (40:02):
That's right, Wall Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 4 (40:05):
I'd hate to say it, but nightcapt Young Farmers took
that one.
Speaker 1 (40:08):
Yet Nightcaps seems to be a rivalry developing between the
rest of South and the Nightcaps, the Crusaders and everyone else.
Speaker 4 (40:15):
Right, Oh pretty much? Yeah, no, they went pretty well.
Speaker 1 (40:18):
Really so they're the Crusaders of the Young Farmers World
and Attago South And would.
Speaker 4 (40:22):
You say oh, I'd say so, yeah, slowly coming up
through the rink.
Speaker 1 (40:28):
Well, you guys have a good membership base as well though.
That seems to be the key with all the clubs.
Speaker 4 (40:32):
Yeah, definitely. Now we're probably sitting around that sort of
thirty members mark, which is.
Speaker 1 (40:36):
Awesome, fantastic. Will you drawing on a large region when
you think about.
Speaker 4 (40:41):
It, Oh definitely yeah, no, real boat, especially when you
got the old people coming up up from Black Mountains.
Speaker 1 (40:49):
Our social media channels, Jack, you guys are active if
people want to catch up.
Speaker 4 (40:54):
Yeah, definitely, so we're on We're on Facebook and Instagram,
and even if you just want to know more about
the club, just just send the message through to one
of one of the pages and you'll get a response
really quickly.
Speaker 1 (41:06):
Yeah. Absolutely, Hey, get on your Jack, Thanks for the
chat this afternoon. And like we say, people can get
onto your social channels from more so always got to
catch up.
Speaker 4 (41:15):
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report this afternoon, of course comes out of Lawnville. Sam
Riley's on the line to give us an update on prices.
Thanks for pgg right some today, Sam.
Speaker 4 (42:17):
How we go good?
Speaker 9 (42:18):
To Andy Hegan on, Yeah, pretty good mate. Reasonable yarding
of prime streets and a still quarter goods yarding of
prime lambs coming through, small yarding of prime kettle and
just a small yarding of store kettle.
Speaker 4 (42:30):
As well, but we'll kick it off of the prime street.
Speaker 9 (42:32):
Those lambs are the good heavy lambs selling very well
to eighty to three thirty, the meeting of two twenty
to seventy and the lighter in lambs at one clinic
into the years here the years one ages of two thirty,
the medium one forty one seventy and the latter in
US at one hundred, one hundred and sixty five dollars
and Paul rams mate they are fifty dollars and selling
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well head under the stores US and lambs all counted,
probably back a little bit on last week one hundred
and twenty five to one hundred and thirty five.
Speaker 3 (43:02):
For 's good numbers.
Speaker 5 (43:03):
It's the good lambs.
Speaker 9 (43:04):
It's good to see. And into the store land market.
Still handful of store lambs coming through one hundred and
forty to one hundred and sixty on the top in
one twenty to one forty on the medium. So it
kicks off, kicks all the sheep off, and the cattle
just a very small adding of prime cattle here for
across heapers at four hundred and thirteen k's four dollars
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thirty two Jeff across balls at four forty five or
twenty eight even heifers a good four forty k is
good condition three eighty and three and cows and four
systey plus kms three dollars and three dollars twenty talking
into the store kettle distance small yarding a store kettle
eighteen months old here for cross years at four hundred
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and k's two and twenty dollars yelling here for across.
Speaker 3 (43:53):
Mid six two two fifty seven kgs.
Speaker 9 (43:56):
Eleven hundred to twelve hundred and twenty dollars yelling some
cross is at one hundred and siventy two k's nine
hundred and fifty dollars in yelling. Freezing balls at to
forty to two seventy klos. They were ninety sixty to
one thousand and two. So that wraps that up into
the Bobby colves, probably the last of the Bobby calves,
and today reasonably hard. We're selling those.
Speaker 4 (44:19):
It's the time of year here.
Speaker 9 (44:21):
If across balls the very good type probably ten day
old stuff one hundred and forty five dollars, and everything
else was sort of forty to fifty bucks, mate, So
that kicks off wraps up, Lordbill, we do have the
first of the Long Bowl spring kettle sales coming up
next Thursday, the sixteenth of the tenth that kicks off
at ten thirty, and of course at that time of
the year we didn't have a lot of ball sales
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on this week in next just check your paper in
the local facebook pages for dates and times with all
those and it wraps up plan
Speaker 1 (44:52):
To get food in our favorite another board of