November 27, 2025 • 47 mins
Andy Muir talks to Jamie Mackay, Don Morrison, Brenton Howden, Joseph Mooney and Miles Anderson, and Jack Hilton.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Once again. It's Friday afternoon, so we catch up with
Nathan Abernethy had a regional Ford Gida.
Speaker 2 (00:04):
Nath Yeah, good Andy, another Friday rolled around. Last one
for the month again, isn't it. And we know how
that the rest of them, well, the rest of the
year is going to speed up, so so like a
good time just to think about around Christmas time, Christmas
New Year time with boats and caravans and cars with
warrants and servicing and all that sort of thing. There
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is always a rush on at the end, and it
is nice to be on top of all these things
and know that the day you decided to head away
that everything's in tip top order. So if you get
a chance, just double check on all those things. The
things are still busy around here. Andy, It's November has
been a good month. It's yeah. Look, I think you know,
the people coming through the door seem to be pretty
(00:46):
bright and positive, so let's hope that continues. We've got
lots and lots of good stock coming in, lots of
new Ford vehicles coming through at the moment, and in
a good stock well a good range of everything that
hopefully we'll have something for last minute purchases before Christmas.
Plenty of good news vehicles, lots of commercials, a bit
of good passenger stuff coming through as well, so yeah,
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no shortage. Don't forget the workshop there and the parts department.
They look after all makes and models and as far
as that goes. The doors will be open again tomorrow
morning and have past nine. Looking forward to heading up
to Belle Klutha in the morning for the South Otago show.
So it will be the end of the show circuit
for us for twenty twenty five. So yeah, looking forward
to getting up there and catch up with our customers there.
Speaker 1 (01:30):
Good only na's enjoy the weekend.
Speaker 2 (01:32):
Thank you, Andy, you two.
Speaker 3 (01:48):
Here?
Speaker 4 (01:48):
Where is it wed?
Speaker 1 (01:50):
Good afternoon and welcome to the muster on Hockin now
are you? My name is Andy Muir. I'm here in
till two o'clock. Thanks and Peter so Nix. Appreciate your
company on a Friday with blue skill on the horizon
here and Gore please scold you through the main street
as well a little bit of a breeze but not
as bad as yesterday. Now just do your due diligence
as well. I'm were going various situation around fire at
(02:12):
the moment, I think a fire bear maybe coming into place.
Surely I'm not too sure on that, but the Fire
and Emergency in New Zealand page certainly has everything up
to date. Of course, we've had a couple of outbreaks
of flames and out over the past couple of days,
so just please do your due diligence around that. Avril
Levigne a throwback to two thousand and two.
Speaker 5 (02:32):
Down five Day, four carsts, brought to you by twin Farm,
teff Rom and suff text. The proof is in the
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Speaker 1 (02:44):
This afternoon partly cloudy. We're breezing all westerly's and seventeen.
Saturday cloudy, We're breezing your westers eleven and twenty. Sunday
Raymond breezes our easterly seven and sixteen. Monday cloudy, we
lights our westers seven and sixteen again, and Tuesday showers
a breezy U still he's nine to eighteen so temperatures
Clinton fourteen point one, Northern South and fourteen point three,
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did Oh, Riverton, tian Now fourteen point one, Tida fourteen
point seven, Winton fourteen point eight. Woodland's thirteen point saxis
and for cam around Omchal sixteen point five. Jamie McKay
joins us in the country crossover. Of course the Southern Shout,
the Farmers Shout occurred us today at Nige and Leanne
Woodhead's fun massive thanks to them for hosting us a
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fantastic occasion. It was hot, it was blowing, but the
beer was flowing as well as and the coffee and
the barbie and thanks to everybody involved with that. So
just seeing how Jamie held up after the big date.
Don Morrison Alliance Sport director and Willowbank Farmers on the program.
I think he's at the woof dropping off a load
of wall today. Actually we're catching up with how we
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Brenton Hold and farming over it did didn't see how
things are going over in his neck of the woods.
And then Joseph Mooney and Miles Anderson. Joseph of course
locally MP here for se Opland and Miles Anderson's MP
four a tech here in studio as well. We just
have a catch up. I had all things politic politics
for the week and Jack Hilton involved with Southland cricket.
(04:11):
We catch up with Jack how he ended up in
Southland and just what is role actually entails? And why
did you end up in Gore? So about further ado,
We'll start the hour with Jamie McKay and the Country Crossover.
This is the Muster until two o'clock. Thanks to Peter's genetics.
(04:38):
Jamie mckaye, host of the Country, joins us in the
Country Crossover. A little bit of Evril Levine for you there, Jamie.
Although she's not young Everril Lavine, that song is actually
what twenty and two, twenty three years old? She's now
forty one, for goodness sake.
Speaker 6 (04:52):
Yeah, what was her biggest song?
Speaker 1 (04:54):
Complicated?
Speaker 6 (04:55):
Yes, that's right, I do remember that.
Speaker 1 (04:58):
Anyway, the day after the night the day after the
night before.
Speaker 7 (05:03):
Yeah, yeah, well we snuck away. This is, of course
the Southern Storm shout at Nigel and Leanne Woodhead's place.
And I think Nigel's got a bit of a woodhead
this morning or this afternoon, because he or you're telling
me they drew stumps at about one.
Speaker 1 (05:16):
Thirty it sounds like it.
Speaker 7 (05:18):
Yeah, geez, well, we got out of there about eight o'clock.
And I know you had to go home a wee
bit earlier, but you know, there was they came in
waves and they went in waves and when we left
there was still a good crowd there and none of
them really looked like they wanted to go home, so
I thought they might have a bit of a job
(05:38):
shutting it down because Hayden Finch from Spates, who was
running the Spates bar the Emerson's tiny pub, had to
go at about seven or half past seven, but he
was gonna He was there to all the bitter end,
so it was it was really good.
Speaker 6 (05:52):
I think it was a great day out.
Speaker 7 (05:53):
I talked to lots of farmers Andy and they really
appreciated the fact that Spates and Emerson's and Silver Fir
and give Murray Coburn a bit of a shout out
from mainland minerals as well.
Speaker 6 (06:04):
He put all the.
Speaker 7 (06:05):
Chops on the barbecue, which was fantastic. So just all
these people contributed and it was really good. There was
lots of silence being made, which meant people couldn't be there.
There was a fire fighting exercise down the road in
Bealcluther where there was a bit of a burnoff gone
a rye or something like that, and so there were
a lot of people who would have been there but couldn't.
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But I think we would have to declare it a success.
Speaker 1 (06:29):
I think so. Murray Coburn as well, driving to Wanica
after the events, so he certainly put in the effort
to get there.
Speaker 6 (06:36):
Well he did.
Speaker 7 (06:36):
He took the long way to get to Wanaka. But yeah,
no good on him. And you know, Mainland minerals. As
I say, all those companies A and Z did. The
coffee cart and the ice creams andy were an absolute hit,
not only with the kids but with also also with
the grown ups. So you know, to all those companies,
thank you very very much, but especially to Emerson's because
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Greg Menzi's from Emerson's. It was his idea and they
do a great job. Those guys love getting that tiny
pub out and about taking it to the country and
it's a magnificent venue, isn't it.
Speaker 1 (07:10):
Absolutely And they're really approachable guys as well. And Alan
McCleary share well in it with Andy Fraser and Alan McCleary. Now,
I thought he'd know every back road in South Otago
like the back of his hand due to him going
and catching up with cockies, but we got lost getting there.
Speaker 6 (07:23):
For God's sake, Well, I'd never been on that road before.
Speaker 7 (07:27):
Of course, coming from the Dunedin end, you turn off
on that turnoff on the back road to Katangata. But
the tiny pub went down that road. But what they
didn't figure out there's a low railway crossing or something
there and they couldn't get the tiny pub underneath it.
So they had to back it back seven or eight
hundred meters reverse it you can imagine that, yeah, and
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then take it around another way. So they had lots
of fun and games even getting the tiny pub there,
but they got there in the end and hopefully they
got it home in one piece.
Speaker 1 (07:57):
But look, it was yeah, look a great day. It
was war though, jeez, w tell you what but a
few fires around the show at the moment.
Speaker 7 (08:04):
Yeah, well that's what we said. There was one down
the road cloth, There's there's one down in Weymouth. Yeah, yeah,
so there's a couple up the road. There's one at Palmerston,
there's one further up up the road from there. And
you know, like the last or Wednesday and Thursday. Wednesday
was actually almost brutally hot here in duneed and I
think twenty nine touching thirty degrees. It was very warm
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again yesterday and windy and just talking to a lot
of the farmers, especially in the South Otago region. They're saying,
you know, we don't want to say this, but we're
crying out for rain because you know, days like that
do duck a hell of a lot of water out
of the system. So yeah, I can't believe it after
the wet spring we've had that you're crying out.
Speaker 6 (08:46):
For rain at the end of November.
Speaker 1 (08:48):
That's just the way it goes in South and While
and I won't forget this either. A shout out to
Wilson DeVry as well, part of the James Egger crew
that came up screat to meet your mate and look,
people made the effort to get there, so that was
really cool.
Speaker 7 (09:00):
Yeah, it was good to see a lot of your
correspondents there. James Edgar, he's got a bit more life
than his old man, Budgy. Budge's meant to be retired.
He's doing all the work and James is at the
tiny pub. So come on budget, you need to get
your life.
Speaker 1 (09:15):
In order pretty much. Now this is happening at the
New Zealand Rural Games. But I actually thought it was
going to be like a Dogs Show reincarnated. But I
think it's just a terminology around it. You're going to
be broadcasting on TV and Z the sheep dog trials
from the New Zealand Rural Games next year. That hasn't
happened for a while.
Speaker 6 (09:34):
Well, yes or no.
Speaker 7 (09:35):
I've been involved in the Rural Games not only longer,
but and I commentated the dog trials Andy, which was
quite a thrill because my father was a dog trialist
and I ended up in my younger years having a
couple of pretty good dogs that were given to me
by a neighbor who got him from a very good
dog troll man. So I actually got a dog that
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was good enough effectively to train me. So I had
had reasonable dogs. So I can't to know the basics
of dog triling, the hunt away and heading events, but
at the Rural Games, and I don't know what they're
talking about. Is televising more of it on TV one
what they have done in the past, and is they've
always had a delayed one hour program which comes out
about a week or ten days after the Rural Games.
Speaker 6 (10:18):
It was on TV three.
Speaker 7 (10:19):
TV one have obviously picked up the bat in there
and are running with it. But it'll be interesting to
see what format it takes because they have a really
interesting formattle what they did when I was commentating at
the Rural Games. It's a real crowd pleaser, you know.
They have heading events and hunting hunter away events and
it's not quite like your traditional.
Speaker 6 (10:42):
Dog trialing, you know. But anyhow, it's a very easy.
Speaker 7 (10:46):
Sport for people to watch and understand, and I think
it's a dog versus sheep versus man.
Speaker 6 (10:52):
It makes for good viewing.
Speaker 7 (10:54):
And I don't know who they'll get to commentate it.
The late John Gordon's no longer with us, but he
used to do alliant job of commentating the dog trills,
and I think it's just a reflection of that Urban
people love to see what farmers are up to, and honestly,
some of the dogs, especially the hunter ways, some of
the controls they have on the hunter ways is amazing
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because they do have a yarding event or the dog
troll finishes with a yarding event, which would normally, of
course be the domain of the heading dog, the eye dog,
but they are able to yard these sheep with hunter ways.
The control they have over them is just amazing, and
they are magnificent, big big dogs with lots of noise,
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So it's a great spectator sport good.
Speaker 1 (11:38):
Only Jamie will leave it there you enjoy the weekend.
Golf's on the agenda. I suppose yes.
Speaker 7 (11:42):
The Saint Andrew's Cross is up for grabs at the
Bell mckilln or Otago Golf Club. It's the oldest, oldest
prize available at a club that's over one hundred and
fifty years old. I want to get my name on
it tomorrow and you're not holding my breath and remember
it's just a game.
Speaker 6 (12:02):
Yeah, I hate.
Speaker 7 (12:03):
The funny thing is there's no rugby, no rugby this weekend.
It's going to be so so different. We can and
we haven't even got an ashes test to look forward to. Andy,
We've got to wait till next week for that.
Speaker 1 (12:14):
One, until they get done in the pink ball test.
Can only Jamie leave it there? Always out by Jamie
McKay and the Country Crossover. Next, we're a way to
catch up with Don Morrison, wallow Bank farmer and Alliance
Ball director. This is the master on Haka Nui everil
(12:41):
of venas the music just for our next guest, Don Morrison,
farming at wallow Bank. He is an Alliance board director,
How are we good? Afternoon? We catch here dropping off
a few bales at the wall stall. Are the sounds
of it? Gee, that's a rare thing to do these days.
Speaker 8 (12:55):
Oh no, just cleaning up the hall shed. We had
the ram hole it cheering earlier. That's been sitting in
the shed and just a few freezer used or one
year used that we've got away this week short then
two or three weeks ago. So just cleaning up the shed,
make it all lot tidy.
Speaker 1 (13:11):
Okay. The big question is what was the wool check?
What's it worth a keiler At the moment.
Speaker 8 (13:16):
I've only dropped it off, Andy, But hey, I'm anticipating
from what I'm reading, it's certainly looking better than last year.
Look look quite exciting around that that sheep's face. At
the moment. I know wolves are still a pretty pathetic
price compared to what it should be. But every lifts
a lift, and you know, so that wolve's moving up,
and certainly you know what we've first raft away on
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two days ago, so the so you know, some good
prices for those us and those lambs.
Speaker 1 (13:43):
Andy, do you have confidence that the wall industry can
bounce back to where it needs to be How are
you or is it just wishful thinking? Guest? These are
where renaissance in the industry. But it's nothing like it should.
Speaker 8 (13:52):
Be, right, Ah, nothing like it should be. Andy when
you look at the qualities of the product. Now, look,
I actually think the wall has got are really really
good future in that in that intermediate future, you know
whether it's going to be one year, two years, three years,
but I think with a lot of the things they're
doing with Wall, it's what we can actually expect really
solid returns in the future, turning it into completely different
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uses than than carpets and jerseys. And that's the opportunity and.
Speaker 1 (14:20):
The big thing at the moment is the wall check
covers the sharing. That's the main thing for a lot
of people, because this hasn't happened for four or five
years even longer.
Speaker 8 (14:27):
Right, Yeah, absolutely, you know, and a little bit ironic.
We've heard in the sheet space for many years that
you know, once we get down to a critical mass,
that will diminish our markets, when in fact it's looking
both in walls. You know, the list primarily an example
of that shortened supply recognition of that, and we're probably
seeing it in that in that red meat space as well.
Speaker 1 (14:47):
You were touched on this before we go onto the farm.
How we read meat sales or exports for October up
to eight hundred and twenty seven million dollars a twenty
seven percent increase on this time last year with the
average value of Kiwi shad media exports where you can
get to fourteen dollars thirty one a kg. Interesting figures, yeah.
Speaker 8 (15:05):
Interesting figures, and we're certainly seeing that. And there you know,
the schedule prices that we're all getting, you know, being
reflected and that you know, when I look back to
two years ago, probably my most challenging financial year ever,
went into last year with that trap spring, no optimism whatsoever,
and we look what happened last year was just that
less than you know, farm economics. And now we're starting
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off really strong this year, Andy, and I think I
think a lot of a lot of optimism and the
sheep meat space.
Speaker 1 (15:33):
Now you're normally sitting on the feence when it comes
to a price, but you're sounding a bit more chipper
about the situation. Howie.
Speaker 8 (15:39):
Oh, look at well, I'll be positive when you can
you can get a view maybe two months out, Andy,
So look the troublers. We've just got huge volatility in
the world. Who know what's going to happen with with Ukraine.
We just don't know. But certainly for those I would
say we're heading for a really good season, and the
prices are looking good for those next two months. Anyway,
(16:00):
I think you'd actually be silly to ever try and
predict with any accuracy forward two or three months after that.
It's a bit unknown.
Speaker 1 (16:07):
Strong demand for Europe and America, and Europe and America
for our product, but going down eight percent for China.
Speaker 8 (16:15):
Yeah, well, look, China's China's the market that is effectively
just sitting. It's moving sideways. In many ways, you can
look at that as a positive because we're getting these
strong prices out of the US, strong demand out of
the US, strong demand out of UK and Europe, still
with a relatively depressed China market. So I think you
know what's sitting there is you know, China one day
(16:37):
will come back. They've just they've just very I guess
pessimistic in their internal spending at the moment, and that's
reflected in their consumer attitude. So you know they're sitting
there potentially one day when they come back in you know,
it might match something else that goes wrong. So they're
still a valuable market and you just got to watch
this space.
Speaker 1 (16:57):
Are you hearing anything around a free trade agreement within
your including red meat?
Speaker 8 (17:02):
I haven't heard anything, Andy. I know they're working on it,
but that would be an incredible result if they can
get that. And I know this government came in and
said that was one thing they were going to put
in place in their first term. So let's hope that's
something they can deliver.
Speaker 1 (17:17):
On council amalgamations. The other thing that's been talked about
quite a bit recently, how we rap Scott on the
program yesterday. He was a driving force behind this coming
out around twelve months ago, around the situation as such.
But you think it's something we need to be weary of.
Speaker 8 (17:34):
No, I know, I know locally they've been looking at
aggregating resources, I guess, or aggregating control. My question is
saving ky We all want our rates driven down. What
cost does it come at? You know, we've had a
lot of work done on environmental protection. The RIMA has
been relaxed, So what who police is? What should happen
(18:00):
an environment? That's one aspect and The other aspect is
I elected members of environments house and based on their
skill set. Have we got the safe skill set reflected
and in our municipality council? So you know, I guess
a little more lead in time or warning so that
(18:20):
we could actually have a man so you could put
people in there with a mandate. Did I elect? Are
the members of the gore or the district helcil elected
with a mandate to also look after the environment? So
I think those are the challenges around the change, with
the offset being lower costs, which we all want, so
I appreciate that.
Speaker 1 (18:39):
Yeah, the lower costs. So getting all these elected officials
and mayors for that matter, over two hundred around the
two hundred figure around the country put in these positions unchallenged,
you need the arguments there though, the weather, the wheat
and the chaff. It's got to be separated.
Speaker 8 (18:55):
Yeah, absolutely, you know, and when we talk about things
in the environment, it's very much going to be are
like councils marking their own homework. So where's the independent
check on some of the behaviors and some of the practices.
So that's what I would like to see a little more,
you know, a little more debate and conversation, how that's
going to work.
Speaker 1 (19:15):
Finally, how he was spent happening on the farm over
the past couple of weeks. Are in need of a
little bit of a drink for the grass?
Speaker 8 (19:22):
Yeah, ronic, isn't it, Andy. We either don't want rain
or we do want rain. And you know that that
heat arrived. We wanted that heat, but those drying winds
have two Hey, look you've just got to be resilient
and you plan a bit. We've we've got rid of
the early us already, so that's freed up a few
hundred miles. Took advantage of that good price on those
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on those hues. So and doing the same singles next week.
We'll be taking a skin draft off the singles and
then the twins the week after, and weaning the singles
just before Christmas, taking the commercial use or the or
the multiple through to after New Year. So trying to
try to get the money in the bank with the
animals that are big enough and just throw the others out.
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What else. Plenty of wheels turning, last of the fider
beat going in. Swedes going in the next week hopefully,
but a first on the barley, but a spraying on
the fodder beat and getting ready. It had a big
week sorting rams and we'll be starting ram selling in
a big way next week. Andy, good on you.
Speaker 1 (20:23):
How we will let you get home to get back
to the hustle. Always appreciate your time.
Speaker 8 (20:26):
Matey, absolute visa Andy, and look forward to the next time.
Speaker 1 (20:32):
Do Morrison a vood bank all guns to the gun
will happening out on his runch. We're away over to
Dip the next Brenton Helden. We have a catch up.
You're listening to the mustard welcome back to the muster
(20:55):
on Hakanui very much an emo sounding song that it
is Avril Levigne, the songs called bite Me Friday afternoon.
Of course, we're away over to Brenton Howden. Now he's
farming sheep and beef oving near ben Moore. How do
you good afternoon? House things in your neck of the woods?
Speaker 9 (21:11):
Gooday, Andy, it's pretty good over here. We've got a
feeling a nice day and day. We've been around yesterday
in a little dirty share this morning, but otherwise it's
pretty good here today.
Speaker 1 (21:21):
Are you starting to dry out like a lot of
other places?
Speaker 9 (21:24):
Ah, it's definitely, definitely dried out from what we were
but it's not penneck stations yet. But we got a
really good share on last Friday we got thirty five
mil and then yeah, a little bit yesterday. So we're
chipping away, all right, Yeah, we're good for now. But yeah,
the drought's only ever two weeks away, aren't it.
Speaker 1 (21:43):
Well, that's the thing at this time of year. People
get itchy on their feet thinking, well, where's they next
rain coming from. It's like that for the next six weeks.
Speaker 9 (21:51):
Yeah, that's the time of year when you look at
where are or your weather apps and they say there's rain,
but when it gets to the day, it just sort
of disappears. It's a bit different than the winter when
it says there's no rain and then you get there
and there is rain.
Speaker 1 (22:04):
Well, you can get all the apps in the world,
and like we say, just look at the one you
agree with and stuck with it. So getting the cowl
and today winter crops and the likes that time of
year of suppose, Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 9 (22:14):
Just getting my second paddock for the day and the
winter kale. They've got leafy turnip in use. Today it
was the last padic of that and then next week
my direct drill padicts will get in their second spray
and I'll be into that for two or three days. Yeah,
and that should be just about everything.
Speaker 1 (22:31):
And yeah, did you just broadcast the kaleine or how
do you go about it?
Speaker 9 (22:35):
I've got a dunken and drill, so we're just Yeah,
the stuffs are seeking year crops that work around and
then next week it's direct drilled straight into spray.
Speaker 1 (22:45):
Makes makes life nice and easy when you've got the
drawer spose.
Speaker 9 (22:49):
Yeah, I was a good adefinitely. We brought about twelve
thirty years ago. It's yeah, it's definitely pay for itself
several times over now.
Speaker 1 (22:56):
Absolutely you can't be an infrastructure as far as waiting
and that. Have you got the eating out of the
road yet or this still to happen?
Speaker 9 (23:02):
Uh down a fortnight away?
Speaker 8 (23:04):
Yep.
Speaker 9 (23:04):
I just drenched the lambs last week. That a full
day and then a half day and you've got it
lighted up.
Speaker 2 (23:11):
So yeah.
Speaker 1 (23:11):
So traditionally waning mid mid December, like yeah, normally.
Speaker 9 (23:15):
That about that second week of December.
Speaker 8 (23:17):
Yeah, with.
Speaker 9 (23:19):
Lambing about a week or ten days later than I
used to, but just kept that winning date about the
same and I think the lambs are as good, if
not better. Just yeah, I think lambing earlier doesn't actually
give you a bigger lambs. At the other end, I
don't think.
Speaker 1 (23:33):
Yeah, Graham, Butcher's always pushing that theory just to extend
the lambing day down and not just to put everything
in a rush situation. Do you think it pays dividends
as far as that.
Speaker 9 (23:44):
I think so, there's definitely definitely more grass about when
when I set stock, And yeah, I'm mass even keen
to go another two or three days next year. Maybe
try to avoid that first weekend the September, which seems
to be always the nasty one.
Speaker 1 (23:57):
But yeah, now you've had an injury, you've been up
at cher christ Church. Of course you have a research
farm up there. What's been happening.
Speaker 9 (24:06):
Baron Brugg, the seed outfit had they call it Grass
to gold Field Day thing and then twelve of us
from Southern flew up there on Monday night and we
had a Tuesday and Wednesday the research farm at Darfield
and how do we look at their distribution center Rolston
And yeah, it was very interesting just sort of seeing
(24:28):
what what they got coming along in the works and
what it takes to get a new cultivar of grass
to market it. Yeah, a lot goes into it, which
you don't really realize.
Speaker 1 (24:39):
What does go into doing a new cultivar of grass
as such, Like you say, it will be interesting.
Speaker 9 (24:45):
At least twelve years of trials and testing. They go
from breeding to to get a new a new one
and then yeah, she's basically twelve years of just trialing
and cutting out different ones that aren't so I had
a the mark. And then yeah, after that twelve years
they hopefully get to one or two. But then even
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after that twelve years, if it won't take the end
of fight, it can still get tossed to the wayside.
So you can see why these companies get quite excited
when they bring out a new swede or grass seed
or something.
Speaker 1 (25:15):
Yeah, so you constantly looking at your grass mixes as
to what you want to put on the farm or
do you stick with the tried and drew.
Speaker 9 (25:22):
I've had a good mix the last couple of years,
but I'm wanting to try and mix in a few
more tetraploids, which is a bit of a challenge on
a sheep farm because you've got that sort of forty
to fifty days where your set stocked. And yeah, the
old Tetra boys can tate quite a hiding.
Speaker 1 (25:40):
It's interesting you bring that up. Actually, you talk about
the wider conversation like ge genetic engineering and the likes.
What are your thoughts around that.
Speaker 9 (25:49):
I'm a little bit on the on the fence on it.
I'm just I don't really know enough about it yet.
I think it's probably something we need to lock into
if we're going to keep up the rest of the world.
But as long as it's not gonna hinder us in
the world markets, Yeah, I'd hate to be shut out
of some markets because we've gone down that track. But
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I think if we can use it and not be hindered,
it could be something worth looking at. But yeah, as
I say, I don't really know a whole lot of
about it yet.
Speaker 1 (26:22):
But yeah, that seems to be a general concern. I
suppose Brendan the fact this has been brought onto the
table and a lot of people are urging that there's
the discussion needs to be here before we gets looked
at any further. So the ramifications that he just talked about,
we don't go down that line.
Speaker 9 (26:38):
Yeah, I think there's definitely probably a space for a
mature conversation about it, but we're probably still five, ten,
fifteen years away from having it. But it was definitely
spoken about there at Baron Bruggen. Yeah, basically everyone in
the group was sort of about the same as we
just didn't know too much about it. But yeah, I
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think it's definitely worth looking into anyway.
Speaker 1 (27:01):
It's like a lot of things at the moment, like
the Paris Cord for example. It's all well and good,
not wanting to be involved with it, but I think
the bigger conversation is we need to have more information
as such.
Speaker 9 (27:12):
Yeah, I think with the Paris as much as a dog,
I think we can't really go jumping out of it
because we need the world more than the world needs us.
So yeah, if we go jumping out and trading partners
are like, well we don't really need you, Yeah, we
might be a bit bugget.
Speaker 1 (27:31):
Yeah, certainly going to be interesting how that pans out. Hey,
we'll let you carry out on the track to getting
the kail. Then always appreciate your time and you're gonna
get some rams off.
Speaker 9 (27:38):
How the Yeah, not very good, Auntie Andy, You have
a good weekend than yeah, cula.
Speaker 1 (27:46):
President Helden have been more. You're listening to the muster
up next to political double trouble in the studio. Actually,
MP Joseph Money for southmand m I Teching, MP Miles Anderson.
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This is the muster on Hakanui, a special treat joined
in studio this afternoon by our local MP, Joseph Mooney
of course, the MP for Southland, and as well Miles Anderson,
MP four Way Techi. Good afternoon, gentlemen.
Speaker 3 (28:19):
Good afternoon, good afternoon.
Speaker 4 (28:20):
Pleasure to be here.
Speaker 1 (28:21):
Oh yeah, great to see you guys in the studio
on a beautiful blue sky rid in the afternoon down
here in the South. But tell you what, Miles, it's
not like this every day. Let's be privately honest.
Speaker 4 (28:32):
Well, I wouldn't know. Joseph tells me it's perfect weather
all the time.
Speaker 3 (28:36):
Yeah, exactly right, it's beautiful all the time. Na's look,
just driving across the promise today is looking absolutely stunning.
At the moment, it was really looking good. And things
are things of picking up, I think, well, certainly in
the economy, and you're saying, just in the good weather,
people feeling pretty good.
Speaker 1 (28:50):
Yeah, prices aren't looking too bad. Land prices are up
there you prices as well. Just read meat deary across
the sector miles. Things are looking not too bad from
a grower's perspective.
Speaker 4 (29:01):
Yeah, and a long that last. Actually there's been a
particularly in the sheep beef sector. There's been a long
period where prices have been depressed and the farmers have
been not feeling the best about things. But the last
couple of years has really seen a big pickup and
lamb and new prices. Beef in particular is outstanding at
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the moment. So well we need to do now is
for crossbred wall to kick on and we'll have the trifector.
Speaker 1 (29:31):
Slowly but surely. It seems to be a bit of
a change in the market of there now miles. Just
for the uninitiated. Initiated, give people a bit of a
background about yourself.
Speaker 4 (29:40):
So I'm from South Canterbury. Were family farmed up there
where I am now for one hundred and thirty years.
My background. I started scanning sheep in nineteen ninety two.
Speaker 1 (29:59):
You would have been a pie for it, just about yeah,
I was.
Speaker 4 (30:01):
There was a guy called rowan farmer who did a
lot of scanning down here in Southland. Myself, another guy
called Dan Wheeler up North Canterbury. We all started the
same season, so it was Virgin territory for all of
us really, And then I did that for twenty one years,
took the business over to Australia. The two seasons New
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Zealand and Australia sort of complemented each other. Started in
Australia in late January and ridiculously hot temperatures and come
back to New Zealand in May and go right through
to mid September here scanning. And when I wasn't scanning,
I was on the family farm. And then after twenty
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one years with the contracting business, sold that and got
busy on the farm and ended up in a role
with our local fed farmers in South Canterbury. I got
that because I missed the meeting, as you do, you
miss the meeting, given a job, and I ended up
as the meat and wall chair for the National Feeds
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between twenty seventeen twenty twenty.
Speaker 6 (31:10):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (31:10):
Fascinating, fascinating insight, especially regarding the sheep skinning side of things. Now, Joseph,
the wester Target amp show happened last week the Upper
Cluthers on Upper Cluth about Cluther Show tomorrow. Sorry Cluther Show.
I think the terminology is but you just want to
come in on last week about Tappanui. About the vibe.
Speaker 3 (31:26):
Yeah, yeah, it was a beautiful day for a starters
in West Targo. But in the five odd years I've
been going there, it's the busiest I've ever seen it
and the really positive, you know vibe. I think people
are in really good space and just really interesting sort
of hearing. The feedback is obviously our regions started to
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season real uptick in the in activity. I think the
the amount of money that's flushing through from dairy and
better prices and the meat schedules is starting to really show.
And in fact I'm hearing farms now selling for record
prices in the region as a consequence, and that's an
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uptake that's been happening in our region. I think it's
starting to show across the country as it's all miles before.
I think the Aukan Port that's seen the strongest month
they ever had for like the important tractors, et cetera
up in Auckland. So it's the growth we're seeing here
is I think son to spread across the country, which
is fantastic.
Speaker 1 (32:28):
And of course the investment boost which God announced a
wee while ago. You tend to forget about this, Miles,
but certainly something. We've got the Southern Field Days coming
up in the next couple of months down here in
the South, and I dare say that's when we'll start
to see businesses really start to hum.
Speaker 4 (32:43):
Yeah, I'd agree. And being a farmer myself, I would
always think if I'm going to spend money where you
can get a tax rebate, you'd wait till the end
of the financial year, so you could see that rebate
pretty quickly the following year. And I expect between Christmas
and the thirty first of March for a bit more
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interest from business and farms, et cetera in capital expenditure
where they qualify for that investment boost.
Speaker 1 (33:15):
So what are the meetings you've been attending over the
last couple of days, Joe.
Speaker 3 (33:20):
So we've we've had the Prime Minister actually in the
region is with me and Queen Sound Dave. We're staying
with Miles and wite Teki.
Speaker 1 (33:26):
Bring to Go.
Speaker 3 (33:27):
We're working on it and if we've had him to
go before and brand and wymany last time as well.
So we're working on getting to WYMO again. Can't make
any promises, but working on it. But no, no, he's
well aware of the proud proud Gores and economic activity,
you know, economic center for the South as well. But look,
just today we've been doing and we've got another one
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to go, doing some real announced meetings. So Miles is
the deputy chair, so you can probably talk a bit
more about that. But we've we've done a few and
today's has been having meetings and washing meetings of folks
and getting your feedback on a number of things that
are going on and their thoughts on what we can
do to shape up policy. But like Myles, we've probably
got the strongest rural caucus for about seven years in Ash, Buddy,
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we're really strong.
Speaker 4 (34:14):
Yeah, we've got a number of the MPs have a
direct relationship to the primary industries, whether it's farming, horticulture, viticulture, fishing.
So there's there's quite a good background in the party
now in the caucus at least of primary production and
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an understanding of it which is helping us as a
rural caucus shape some policy as well.
Speaker 1 (34:43):
Yes, let's be honest, from a rural perspective, like Sir
Mark Cameron and Andrew Hoggard from Act as well doing
what they're doing. Just having that rural presence across the government.
I think it's been appreciated.
Speaker 4 (34:54):
Yeah, I think I think it is. And then look
that we it's been a change in government and a
change attitude from government. Like the business in rural sector
felt like they've been villainized under the previous government, and
we're out here to say you're not the villains, you're
actually the heroes. You're the ones that are dragging us
out of the recession. You're the ones that produce eighty
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two percent of our export income and we appreciate you.
Speaker 1 (35:21):
There's some big figures coming out, what is it, two
percent of the population, over fifteen percent of the GDP
Joseph coming out of the south. That's big numbers.
Speaker 3 (35:28):
They are really big numbers, and our job is obviously
to keep that in the very much in the national
consciousness in Parliament and with a really strong Royal Caucus
it really helps. We've got a really strong voice in
our caucus, which is which is showing. I mean, this
government I think is probably made some of the biggest
moves to support the primary sector for decades, and we've
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actually spent a huge amount of our legislative agenda over
the last two years focus on a rolling back things
that the last goverment did that were dumb and didn't work,
but also you know, looking forward to actually how we
can do it. And the next couple of weeks we're
going to be leaning the replacement for the Resource Management Act.
What are something people have been crying out for for
a long time and there's I think these actual consensus
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between the two main political parties, both Labor and National
that needs to be replaced. A bit of a difference
on how some of that is done, but we'll be
learning that that's going to make a huge difference to
the primary sector and other sectors actually as well.
Speaker 1 (36:26):
Absolutely, here's hoping we get bipartisan agreement on that one. Hey,
better leave it there, guys, Joseph Mooney and Miles Anderson,
thanks for coming in studio. Great to meet some of
KIVS alumni. I would have loved to have seen the
eighty four cent Kivens versus Deene take on the eighty
eight side.
Speaker 4 (36:41):
That would have been a treat Yeah, well it could
still happen.
Speaker 1 (36:47):
Good only guys.
Speaker 3 (36:48):
Says very much for your time, mate.
Speaker 1 (36:51):
Joseph Mooney and Miles Anderson. Great to have him in studio.
This is the muster on Hockno. Before you wrap up.
Jack Hilton talking south and Cricket. Welcome back to the Master.
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I'm hakanui gee. It's like state holliwan in the studio
this afternoon. A couple of MP's and now a guy's
involved with Sealthland cricket. His name is Jack Hilton. He's
involved in boy Koey Cooey cricket down here in the
self and competition, but as well he is involved with
Southland cricket. But he came from England, of all places,
and he came here a few years ago and he
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hasn't left. He's going to tell us about his journey
about arriving in good Good afternoon, Jack, Good to catch.
Speaker 10 (37:40):
Up afternoon and great to be here.
Speaker 1 (37:42):
How the hell did you end up in golf?
Speaker 10 (37:45):
I am it's probably quite a well told story for
a few people now, but well, it would have been
eight years ago I think.
Speaker 1 (37:53):
Now.
Speaker 10 (37:54):
I was back home in the UK and scrolling through
a couple jobs website. There was a cricket jobs wanting.
Usually you scroll through them and you're like, oh, that'd
be a great job, but you need professional playing experience
or whatever. And then the came to Southland or south
and popped up and I was like, oh, wow, I'm
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pretty pretty much doing this for my club already. Why
don't I give it a crack. I won't get to
New Zealand otherwise a good chance to explore the world,
And yeah, got the job. Came over only ever thought
it was going to be one summer, and then loved
it and just kept coming back and here we are.
Speaker 1 (38:32):
So was it what you expected? I suppose coming over here.
Speaker 10 (38:37):
To some extent, I think in the UK club cricket's
a bit stronger, so that was probably a big transition,
was I guess In my job you deal a lot
more with the schools and cricket in that regard. So
once I, once I got used to that, yeah it was.
It's a different kind of lifestyle and culture over here,
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way more relaxed, and I think that probably suits me
a lot more as well.
Speaker 1 (39:02):
Yeah, so whereabouts in the UK.
Speaker 10 (39:04):
You're from actually from Edinburgh, Scotland, so family is from Manchester,
kind of north of England, but we moved up to
Scotland when I was about five years old, I believe,
and we've been there ever since.
Speaker 1 (39:16):
So yeah, I played an Essex for Chignal Smealy. Oh wow,
just outside of Chelmsford. There's a few years ago now
for a lot of Keoyes. You go over there and
you played the cricket the Saturday and the Sunday and
it's pretty full on, just a club, believe the Lord
ever and was it like Koey Keoey obviously that you've
seen the advertisement forore for coming over here or how
did you align with them?
Speaker 10 (39:37):
Well, it was the Cooy's one hundred and twenty fifth
jubilee that season and Southern Cricket wanted to do a
bit of a project out here in eastern Southland and
they needed a place for me to stay for the summer,
and I believe the COUI were the first ones to
come forward and say we had an old farmhouse and
so long as he plays for us for the season,
you'll get rent for free. So didn't really we have
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much of a choice. But then we went on to
win the comp that first season. I was like, well
I can't go anywhere else now. It doesn't get much
better than this, and here we are.
Speaker 1 (40:08):
And the thing about why kooey kewey. It's in the
middle of nowhere, yet here's two teams. And we talked
about this before. It's not about people being in the area,
but people wanting to travel to go the other play
the appeal of it.
Speaker 10 (40:20):
Yeah, I mean like these days, majority of our club,
as you say, don't live in or around the Quey,
a lot of as a goal base now and potentially
a little bit further afield than that. And yeah, I
think it's just I know, particularly in the A team
which I've played the majority of my games for that,
it's just we're all mates that have now played together
for seven, eight, nine years, some of them even longer
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than that. And yeah, even this weekend's team it's almost
like a golden oldies team a little bit. But there's
a heck of a lot of excitement about tomorrow because
we're playing with a bunch just playing with a bunch
of mates really and hopefully a good level of cricket too, at.
Speaker 1 (40:57):
Least for Yon. Safire is still burning after losing the
FI by one lenk of the pitch last year.
Speaker 10 (41:02):
Oh yeah, let's let's move on quickly. I'm still not
over it.
Speaker 1 (41:07):
It was mind you you think about that it was
the only crickets Lord's twenty nineteen or Killies twenty nineteen
Lord's moment as well as true true, But anyway, look,
so you're working for Southland Cricket. What does it involved
as such?
Speaker 10 (41:18):
So yeah, I'm the development officer for south and Cricket,
so these days that covers the whole the Southland. I
said to somebody recently, I've kind of lost track of
days and dates at the moment and I almost planned
my week by which location I've got to be in.
So like on Mondays we're in Tiana. Now we've got
Tuesday cricket right here in Gore for the little ones,
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Wednesday down in the cargo, Thursdays in verta Commas, a
day off, so working from home in the office, and
then Friday's back for the older kids in eastern Southland
down at Hamilton Park.
Speaker 1 (41:50):
So yeah, full on week.
Speaker 10 (41:52):
But it's just just trying to grow the game as
much as we can, I guess, constantly reacting to different
challenges that comes with community sport, Like it's the challenges
we facing. Cricket will be the same for rugby, football, hockey, netball.
Speaker 1 (42:07):
It's a different here now. There's so many options out there.
When I grow up and have seen this many a time, yeah, cricket,
rugby and tinas and then winter you hear the hips,
rugby and basketball if you hit the facilities.
Speaker 10 (42:17):
Yeah, yeah, there's a lot more. It's not just sports,
it's just activities as well. And yeah, like I guess,
our philosophy with cricket is we try and make it exciting,
like we're under no illusions. It can be Cricket can
be the worst sport in the world and one of
the most boring, and like I view a lot of
my role is how do we change that perception, not
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just with kids and players, but with coaches and parents
And yeah, hopefully, hopefully we can create a bit of
a buzz around the sport. And like it's my favorite sport.
I love it and hopefully I can I guess pass
that passion on as well.
Speaker 1 (42:53):
So how do you change a perception of cricket for
a lot of parents whose kids wants to play? It's boring.
You're sitting there, so what are you doing? You might
as well go and watch a grass grow that's a
common thing right here.
Speaker 10 (43:04):
Yeah, it's not an exact science, and I mean this
is my ninth summer here now, so I've still not
got it right on every level. But we do a
lot of in school visits with classes and play cricket
with them and hopefully fizz up the kids that way,
and they go home wanting to tell Mom and Dad
I want to play cricket jack or whoever was in
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school today. It's hopefully they say it's really cool. I
want to give it a crack. And then we've also
got to make sure we don't rest in our laurels
when they come down to Hamilton Park here or Queen's
parking in the cargo ready to play. We've got to
make sure that the games they get to play in
the competition they're involved in is just as exciting as
a visit from us in their school as well. So
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it's a I was about to say, a constant battle,
but yeah, just constantly each week. We're looking to always
improve and change things up, hopefully.
Speaker 1 (43:56):
Because I can imagine your job job being the most
rewarding as we are the most frustrating too.
Speaker 10 (44:01):
Yeah, I think you've probably nailed it there, it's always
it's really cool when the kids get underway after school
each day of the week wherever we are, and you
can just kind of all the pictures are playing and
you can just kind of take a minute to kind
of step back and just watch it. The music's blaring
and all the rest of it, and even the little
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ones like you five and six year olds right up
to your year sixes and year sevens and eight. So
you can look around and it looks like cricket that
you see on TV, and you think, oh, we're onto
something here, but then there's always an email or a
text or a phone call that's not far away and
something's maybe not gone quite to plan. But like I
view what I do, I feel very privileged to do it.
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Not many people can say they get to work and
earn a living out of a sport or something they love.
Speaker 1 (44:47):
So, yeah, is it buying from the schools with what
you're doing?
Speaker 10 (44:52):
Yeah, definitely. It's again it's tough. I know, like the
school curriculum. The school day is very jam packed and busy,
and we're really appreciative of schools to give us their
time and let us have their classes for half an
hour or whatever. It is, and then the enthusiasm that
a number of schools show towards helping us grow the game.
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It doesn't go unnoticed, and for us it's just massive,
and you talk about it being rewarding to get that,
to be able to build up those kind of working
relationships with schools. I guess the other thing living in
a smallest town like Gore, in a community, you just
I say, if you go to the supermarket the wrong
time of day so to speak, so sort of just
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after school, it takes twice or three times as long
because you run into people that you know, and kids
are waving at you down the street because they've just
had a cricket session from you that day or stuff
like that. So yeah, I think everyone's pretty supportive, but
it's just with so much going on, we don't always
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get the numbers we'd like. But yeah, what a great
job to have.
Speaker 1 (46:01):
Though, just finally, basbell Yale or Nae, maybe it's not
an answer. Yeah, I know.
Speaker 10 (46:10):
After last week's performance he'd probably say nay. But at
least it's created a bit of excitement around that team
and around the Ashes series over and nausey at the moment,
So long may it continue? And hopefully makes for a
good summer of cricket as well.
Speaker 1 (46:26):
Hey, good on you, Jack, Thanks very much for your
time this afternoon coming in studio and you've got a
lot going on this afternoon. But that was really great
for the kitch up and at the killie tomorrow.
Speaker 10 (46:36):
I suppose that. Yeah, thanks for having me. Cheers Andy
yell laugh out loud with ag proud because life on
the land can be a laughing matter.
Speaker 1 (46:47):
Brought to us by sheer Well Data working to help
the livestock farmer. Bira was sitting at the bar steering
at the drake when a big biker walked up Greg
mcglass and swallowed it in a big goal. He goes, well,
what you're gonna do about your runt? And I just
started crying. I said, this has been the worst day
of my life. I was late to a meeting and
the boss fired me. When I got to the parking lot,
the car was gone stolen. I don't even insurance, left
(47:10):
a wallet in the Cabatil came then found my wife
of another man. To top it off, the dog bit me,
so I came here to get the carriageter ended and
I bought a drink I dropped poison in it. I
sat here watching it dissolved, and you'd walked in and
drink the whole bloody thing. But anyway, enough about me,
how's your day going? And that's us over and done
with for the week. Here on the Muster, the best
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the Muster on Hock and now he thinks to Peters
and Elix, enjoy the weekend, see you Monday.
Speaker 9 (47:42):
Trying to figure
Once again. It's Friday afternoon, so we catch up with
Nathan Abernethy had a regional Ford Gida.
Speaker 2 (00:04):
Nath Yeah, good Andy, another Friday rolled around. Last one
for the month again, isn't it. And we know how
that the rest of them, well, the rest of the
year is going to speed up, so so like a
good time just to think about around Christmas time, Christmas
New Year time with boats and caravans and cars with
warrants and servicing and all that sort of thing. There
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is always a rush on at the end, and it
is nice to be on top of all these things
and know that the day you decided to head away
that everything's in tip top order. So if you get
a chance, just double check on all those things. The
things are still busy around here. Andy, It's November has
been a good month. It's yeah. Look, I think you know,
the people coming through the door seem to be pretty
(00:46):
bright and positive, so let's hope that continues. We've got
lots and lots of good stock coming in, lots of
new Ford vehicles coming through at the moment, and in
a good stock well a good range of everything that
hopefully we'll have something for last minute purchases before Christmas.
Plenty of good news vehicles, lots of commercials, a bit
of good passenger stuff coming through as well, so yeah,
(01:10):
no shortage. Don't forget the workshop there and the parts department.
They look after all makes and models and as far
as that goes. The doors will be open again tomorrow
morning and have past nine. Looking forward to heading up
to Belle Klutha in the morning for the South Otago show.
So it will be the end of the show circuit
for us for twenty twenty five. So yeah, looking forward
to getting up there and catch up with our customers there.
Speaker 1 (01:30):
Good only na's enjoy the weekend.
Speaker 2 (01:32):
Thank you, Andy, you two.
Speaker 3 (01:48):
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Where is it wed?
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Surely I'm not too sure on that, but the Fire
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to date. Of course, we've had a couple of outbreaks
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did Oh, Riverton, tian Now fourteen point one, Tida fourteen
point seven, Winton fourteen point eight. Woodland's thirteen point saxis
and for cam around Omchal sixteen point five. Jamie McKay
joins us in the country crossover. Of course the Southern Shout,
the Farmers Shout occurred us today at Nige and Leanne
Woodhead's fun massive thanks to them for hosting us a
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fantastic occasion. It was hot, it was blowing, but the
beer was flowing as well as and the coffee and
the barbie and thanks to everybody involved with that. So
just seeing how Jamie held up after the big date.
Don Morrison Alliance Sport director and Willowbank Farmers on the program.
I think he's at the woof dropping off a load
of wall today. Actually we're catching up with how we
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Brenton Hold and farming over it did didn't see how
things are going over in his neck of the woods.
And then Joseph Mooney and Miles Anderson. Joseph of course
locally MP here for se Opland and Miles Anderson's MP
four a tech here in studio as well. We just
have a catch up. I had all things politic politics
for the week and Jack Hilton involved with Southland cricket.
(04:11):
We catch up with Jack how he ended up in
Southland and just what is role actually entails? And why
did you end up in Gore? So about further ado,
We'll start the hour with Jamie McKay and the Country Crossover.
This is the Muster until two o'clock. Thanks to Peter's genetics.
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Jamie mckaye, host of the Country, joins us in the
Country Crossover. A little bit of Evril Levine for you there, Jamie.
Although she's not young Everril Lavine, that song is actually
what twenty and two, twenty three years old? She's now
forty one, for goodness sake.
Speaker 6 (04:52):
Yeah, what was her biggest song?
Speaker 1 (04:54):
Complicated?
Speaker 6 (04:55):
Yes, that's right, I do remember that.
Speaker 1 (04:58):
Anyway, the day after the night the day after the
night before.
Speaker 7 (05:03):
Yeah, yeah, well we snuck away. This is, of course
the Southern Storm shout at Nigel and Leanne Woodhead's place.
And I think Nigel's got a bit of a woodhead
this morning or this afternoon, because he or you're telling
me they drew stumps at about one.
Speaker 1 (05:16):
Thirty it sounds like it.
Speaker 7 (05:18):
Yeah, geez, well, we got out of there about eight o'clock.
And I know you had to go home a wee
bit earlier, but you know, there was they came in
waves and they went in waves and when we left
there was still a good crowd there and none of
them really looked like they wanted to go home, so
I thought they might have a bit of a job
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shutting it down because Hayden Finch from Spates, who was
running the Spates bar the Emerson's tiny pub, had to
go at about seven or half past seven, but he
was gonna He was there to all the bitter end,
so it was it was really good.
Speaker 6 (05:52):
I think it was a great day out.
Speaker 7 (05:53):
I talked to lots of farmers Andy and they really
appreciated the fact that Spates and Emerson's and Silver Fir
and give Murray Coburn a bit of a shout out
from mainland minerals as well.
Speaker 6 (06:04):
He put all the.
Speaker 7 (06:05):
Chops on the barbecue, which was fantastic. So just all
these people contributed and it was really good. There was
lots of silence being made, which meant people couldn't be there.
There was a fire fighting exercise down the road in
Bealcluther where there was a bit of a burnoff gone
a rye or something like that, and so there were
a lot of people who would have been there but couldn't.
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But I think we would have to declare it a success.
Speaker 1 (06:29):
I think so. Murray Coburn as well, driving to Wanica
after the events, so he certainly put in the effort
to get there.
Speaker 6 (06:36):
Well he did.
Speaker 7 (06:36):
He took the long way to get to Wanaka. But yeah,
no good on him. And you know, Mainland minerals. As
I say, all those companies A and Z did. The
coffee cart and the ice creams andy were an absolute hit,
not only with the kids but with also also with
the grown ups. So you know, to all those companies,
thank you very very much, but especially to Emerson's because
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Greg Menzi's from Emerson's. It was his idea and they
do a great job. Those guys love getting that tiny
pub out and about taking it to the country and
it's a magnificent venue, isn't it.
Speaker 1 (07:10):
Absolutely And they're really approachable guys as well. And Alan
McCleary share well in it with Andy Fraser and Alan McCleary. Now,
I thought he'd know every back road in South Otago
like the back of his hand due to him going
and catching up with cockies, but we got lost getting there.
Speaker 6 (07:23):
For God's sake, Well, I'd never been on that road before.
Speaker 7 (07:27):
Of course, coming from the Dunedin end, you turn off
on that turnoff on the back road to Katangata. But
the tiny pub went down that road. But what they
didn't figure out there's a low railway crossing or something
there and they couldn't get the tiny pub underneath it.
So they had to back it back seven or eight
hundred meters reverse it you can imagine that, yeah, and
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then take it around another way. So they had lots
of fun and games even getting the tiny pub there,
but they got there in the end and hopefully they
got it home in one piece.
Speaker 1 (07:57):
But look, it was yeah, look a great day. It
was war though, jeez, w tell you what but a
few fires around the show at the moment.
Speaker 7 (08:04):
Yeah, well that's what we said. There was one down
the road cloth, There's there's one down in Weymouth. Yeah, yeah,
so there's a couple up the road. There's one at Palmerston,
there's one further up up the road from there. And
you know, like the last or Wednesday and Thursday. Wednesday
was actually almost brutally hot here in duneed and I
think twenty nine touching thirty degrees. It was very warm
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again yesterday and windy and just talking to a lot
of the farmers, especially in the South Otago region. They're saying,
you know, we don't want to say this, but we're
crying out for rain because you know, days like that
do duck a hell of a lot of water out
of the system. So yeah, I can't believe it after
the wet spring we've had that you're crying out.
Speaker 6 (08:46):
For rain at the end of November.
Speaker 1 (08:48):
That's just the way it goes in South and While
and I won't forget this either. A shout out to
Wilson DeVry as well, part of the James Egger crew
that came up screat to meet your mate and look,
people made the effort to get there, so that was
really cool.
Speaker 7 (09:00):
Yeah, it was good to see a lot of your
correspondents there. James Edgar, he's got a bit more life
than his old man, Budgy. Budge's meant to be retired.
He's doing all the work and James is at the
tiny pub. So come on budget, you need to get
your life.
Speaker 1 (09:15):
In order pretty much. Now this is happening at the
New Zealand Rural Games. But I actually thought it was
going to be like a Dogs Show reincarnated. But I
think it's just a terminology around it. You're going to
be broadcasting on TV and Z the sheep dog trials
from the New Zealand Rural Games next year. That hasn't
happened for a while.
Speaker 6 (09:34):
Well, yes or no.
Speaker 7 (09:35):
I've been involved in the Rural Games not only longer,
but and I commentated the dog trials Andy, which was
quite a thrill because my father was a dog trialist
and I ended up in my younger years having a
couple of pretty good dogs that were given to me
by a neighbor who got him from a very good
dog troll man. So I actually got a dog that
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was good enough effectively to train me. So I had
had reasonable dogs. So I can't to know the basics
of dog triling, the hunt away and heading events, but
at the Rural Games, and I don't know what they're
talking about. Is televising more of it on TV one
what they have done in the past, and is they've
always had a delayed one hour program which comes out
about a week or ten days after the Rural Games.
Speaker 6 (10:18):
It was on TV three.
Speaker 7 (10:19):
TV one have obviously picked up the bat in there
and are running with it. But it'll be interesting to
see what format it takes because they have a really
interesting formattle what they did when I was commentating at
the Rural Games. It's a real crowd pleaser, you know.
They have heading events and hunting hunter away events and
it's not quite like your traditional.
Speaker 6 (10:42):
Dog trialing, you know. But anyhow, it's a very easy.
Speaker 7 (10:46):
Sport for people to watch and understand, and I think
it's a dog versus sheep versus man.
Speaker 6 (10:52):
It makes for good viewing.
Speaker 7 (10:54):
And I don't know who they'll get to commentate it.
The late John Gordon's no longer with us, but he
used to do alliant job of commentating the dog trills,
and I think it's just a reflection of that Urban
people love to see what farmers are up to, and honestly,
some of the dogs, especially the hunter ways, some of
the controls they have on the hunter ways is amazing
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because they do have a yarding event or the dog
troll finishes with a yarding event, which would normally, of
course be the domain of the heading dog, the eye dog,
but they are able to yard these sheep with hunter ways.
The control they have over them is just amazing, and
they are magnificent, big big dogs with lots of noise,
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So it's a great spectator sport good.
Speaker 1 (11:38):
Only Jamie will leave it there you enjoy the weekend.
Golf's on the agenda. I suppose yes.
Speaker 7 (11:42):
The Saint Andrew's Cross is up for grabs at the
Bell mckilln or Otago Golf Club. It's the oldest, oldest
prize available at a club that's over one hundred and
fifty years old. I want to get my name on
it tomorrow and you're not holding my breath and remember
it's just a game.
Speaker 6 (12:02):
Yeah, I hate.
Speaker 7 (12:03):
The funny thing is there's no rugby, no rugby this weekend.
It's going to be so so different. We can and
we haven't even got an ashes test to look forward to. Andy,
We've got to wait till next week for that.
Speaker 1 (12:14):
One, until they get done in the pink ball test.
Can only Jamie leave it there? Always out by Jamie
McKay and the Country Crossover. Next, we're a way to
catch up with Don Morrison, wallow Bank farmer and Alliance
Ball director. This is the master on Haka Nui everil
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of venas the music just for our next guest, Don Morrison,
farming at wallow Bank. He is an Alliance board director,
How are we good? Afternoon? We catch here dropping off
a few bales at the wall stall. Are the sounds
of it? Gee, that's a rare thing to do these days.
Speaker 8 (12:55):
Oh no, just cleaning up the hall shed. We had
the ram hole it cheering earlier. That's been sitting in
the shed and just a few freezer used or one
year used that we've got away this week short then
two or three weeks ago. So just cleaning up the shed,
make it all lot tidy.
Speaker 1 (13:11):
Okay. The big question is what was the wool check?
What's it worth a keiler At the moment.
Speaker 8 (13:16):
I've only dropped it off, Andy, But hey, I'm anticipating
from what I'm reading, it's certainly looking better than last year.
Look look quite exciting around that that sheep's face. At
the moment. I know wolves are still a pretty pathetic
price compared to what it should be. But every lifts
a lift, and you know, so that wolve's moving up,
and certainly you know what we've first raft away on
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two days ago, so the so you know, some good
prices for those us and those lambs.
Speaker 1 (13:43):
Andy, do you have confidence that the wall industry can
bounce back to where it needs to be How are
you or is it just wishful thinking? Guest? These are
where renaissance in the industry. But it's nothing like it should.
Speaker 8 (13:52):
Be, right, Ah, nothing like it should be. Andy when
you look at the qualities of the product. Now, look,
I actually think the wall has got are really really
good future in that in that intermediate future, you know
whether it's going to be one year, two years, three years,
but I think with a lot of the things they're
doing with Wall, it's what we can actually expect really
solid returns in the future, turning it into completely different
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uses than than carpets and jerseys. And that's the opportunity and.
Speaker 1 (14:20):
The big thing at the moment is the wall check
covers the sharing. That's the main thing for a lot
of people, because this hasn't happened for four or five
years even longer.
Speaker 8 (14:27):
Right, Yeah, absolutely, you know, and a little bit ironic.
We've heard in the sheet space for many years that
you know, once we get down to a critical mass,
that will diminish our markets, when in fact it's looking
both in walls. You know, the list primarily an example
of that shortened supply recognition of that, and we're probably
seeing it in that in that red meat space as well.
Speaker 1 (14:47):
You were touched on this before we go onto the farm.
How we read meat sales or exports for October up
to eight hundred and twenty seven million dollars a twenty
seven percent increase on this time last year with the
average value of Kiwi shad media exports where you can
get to fourteen dollars thirty one a kg. Interesting figures, yeah.
Speaker 8 (15:05):
Interesting figures, and we're certainly seeing that. And there you know,
the schedule prices that we're all getting, you know, being
reflected and that you know, when I look back to
two years ago, probably my most challenging financial year ever,
went into last year with that trap spring, no optimism whatsoever,
and we look what happened last year was just that
less than you know, farm economics. And now we're starting
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off really strong this year, Andy, and I think I
think a lot of a lot of optimism and the
sheep meat space.
Speaker 1 (15:33):
Now you're normally sitting on the feence when it comes
to a price, but you're sounding a bit more chipper
about the situation. Howie.
Speaker 8 (15:39):
Oh, look at well, I'll be positive when you can
you can get a view maybe two months out, Andy,
So look the troublers. We've just got huge volatility in
the world. Who know what's going to happen with with Ukraine.
We just don't know. But certainly for those I would
say we're heading for a really good season, and the
prices are looking good for those next two months. Anyway,
(16:00):
I think you'd actually be silly to ever try and
predict with any accuracy forward two or three months after that.
It's a bit unknown.
Speaker 1 (16:07):
Strong demand for Europe and America, and Europe and America
for our product, but going down eight percent for China.
Speaker 8 (16:15):
Yeah, well, look, China's China's the market that is effectively
just sitting. It's moving sideways. In many ways, you can
look at that as a positive because we're getting these
strong prices out of the US, strong demand out of
the US, strong demand out of UK and Europe, still
with a relatively depressed China market. So I think you
know what's sitting there is you know, China one day
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will come back. They've just they've just very I guess
pessimistic in their internal spending at the moment, and that's
reflected in their consumer attitude. So you know they're sitting
there potentially one day when they come back in you know,
it might match something else that goes wrong. So they're
still a valuable market and you just got to watch
this space.
Speaker 1 (16:57):
Are you hearing anything around a free trade agreement within
your including red meat?
Speaker 8 (17:02):
I haven't heard anything, Andy. I know they're working on it,
but that would be an incredible result if they can
get that. And I know this government came in and
said that was one thing they were going to put
in place in their first term. So let's hope that's
something they can deliver.
Speaker 1 (17:17):
On council amalgamations. The other thing that's been talked about
quite a bit recently, how we rap Scott on the
program yesterday. He was a driving force behind this coming
out around twelve months ago, around the situation as such.
But you think it's something we need to be weary of.
Speaker 8 (17:34):
No, I know, I know locally they've been looking at
aggregating resources, I guess, or aggregating control. My question is
saving ky We all want our rates driven down. What
cost does it come at? You know, we've had a
lot of work done on environmental protection. The RIMA has
been relaxed, So what who police is? What should happen
(18:00):
an environment? That's one aspect and The other aspect is
I elected members of environments house and based on their
skill set. Have we got the safe skill set reflected
and in our municipality council? So you know, I guess
a little more lead in time or warning so that
(18:20):
we could actually have a man so you could put
people in there with a mandate. Did I elect? Are
the members of the gore or the district helcil elected
with a mandate to also look after the environment? So
I think those are the challenges around the change, with
the offset being lower costs, which we all want, so
I appreciate that.
Speaker 1 (18:39):
Yeah, the lower costs. So getting all these elected officials
and mayors for that matter, over two hundred around the
two hundred figure around the country put in these positions unchallenged,
you need the arguments there though, the weather, the wheat
and the chaff. It's got to be separated.
Speaker 8 (18:55):
Yeah, absolutely, you know, and when we talk about things
in the environment, it's very much going to be are
like councils marking their own homework. So where's the independent
check on some of the behaviors and some of the practices.
So that's what I would like to see a little more,
you know, a little more debate and conversation, how that's
going to work.
Speaker 1 (19:15):
Finally, how he was spent happening on the farm over
the past couple of weeks. Are in need of a
little bit of a drink for the grass?
Speaker 8 (19:22):
Yeah, ronic, isn't it, Andy. We either don't want rain
or we do want rain. And you know that that
heat arrived. We wanted that heat, but those drying winds
have two Hey, look you've just got to be resilient
and you plan a bit. We've we've got rid of
the early us already, so that's freed up a few
hundred miles. Took advantage of that good price on those
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on those hues. So and doing the same singles next week.
We'll be taking a skin draft off the singles and
then the twins the week after, and weaning the singles
just before Christmas, taking the commercial use or the or
the multiple through to after New Year. So trying to
try to get the money in the bank with the
animals that are big enough and just throw the others out.
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What else. Plenty of wheels turning, last of the fider
beat going in. Swedes going in the next week hopefully,
but a first on the barley, but a spraying on
the fodder beat and getting ready. It had a big
week sorting rams and we'll be starting ram selling in
a big way next week. Andy, good on you.
Speaker 1 (20:23):
How we will let you get home to get back
to the hustle. Always appreciate your time.
Speaker 8 (20:26):
Matey, absolute visa Andy, and look forward to the next time.
Speaker 1 (20:32):
Do Morrison a vood bank all guns to the gun
will happening out on his runch. We're away over to
Dip the next Brenton Helden. We have a catch up.
You're listening to the mustard welcome back to the muster
(20:55):
on Hakanui very much an emo sounding song that it
is Avril Levigne, the songs called bite Me Friday afternoon.
Of course, we're away over to Brenton Howden. Now he's
farming sheep and beef oving near ben Moore. How do
you good afternoon? House things in your neck of the woods?
Speaker 9 (21:11):
Gooday, Andy, it's pretty good over here. We've got a
feeling a nice day and day. We've been around yesterday
in a little dirty share this morning, but otherwise it's
pretty good here today.
Speaker 1 (21:21):
Are you starting to dry out like a lot of
other places?
Speaker 9 (21:24):
Ah, it's definitely, definitely dried out from what we were
but it's not penneck stations yet. But we got a
really good share on last Friday we got thirty five
mil and then yeah, a little bit yesterday. So we're
chipping away, all right, Yeah, we're good for now. But yeah,
the drought's only ever two weeks away, aren't it.
Speaker 1 (21:43):
Well, that's the thing at this time of year. People
get itchy on their feet thinking, well, where's they next
rain coming from. It's like that for the next six weeks.
Speaker 9 (21:51):
Yeah, that's the time of year when you look at
where are or your weather apps and they say there's rain,
but when it gets to the day, it just sort
of disappears. It's a bit different than the winter when
it says there's no rain and then you get there
and there is rain.
Speaker 1 (22:04):
Well, you can get all the apps in the world,
and like we say, just look at the one you
agree with and stuck with it. So getting the cowl
and today winter crops and the likes that time of
year of suppose, Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 9 (22:14):
Just getting my second paddock for the day and the
winter kale. They've got leafy turnip in use. Today it
was the last padic of that and then next week
my direct drill padicts will get in their second spray
and I'll be into that for two or three days. Yeah,
and that should be just about everything.
Speaker 1 (22:31):
And yeah, did you just broadcast the kaleine or how
do you go about it?
Speaker 9 (22:35):
I've got a dunken and drill, so we're just Yeah,
the stuffs are seeking year crops that work around and
then next week it's direct drilled straight into spray.
Speaker 1 (22:45):
Makes makes life nice and easy when you've got the
drawer spose.
Speaker 9 (22:49):
Yeah, I was a good adefinitely. We brought about twelve
thirty years ago. It's yeah, it's definitely pay for itself
several times over now.
Speaker 1 (22:56):
Absolutely you can't be an infrastructure as far as waiting
and that. Have you got the eating out of the
road yet or this still to happen?
Speaker 9 (23:02):
Uh down a fortnight away?
Speaker 8 (23:04):
Yep.
Speaker 9 (23:04):
I just drenched the lambs last week. That a full
day and then a half day and you've got it
lighted up.
Speaker 2 (23:11):
So yeah.
Speaker 1 (23:11):
So traditionally waning mid mid December, like yeah, normally.
Speaker 9 (23:15):
That about that second week of December.
Speaker 8 (23:17):
Yeah, with.
Speaker 9 (23:19):
Lambing about a week or ten days later than I
used to, but just kept that winning date about the
same and I think the lambs are as good, if
not better. Just yeah, I think lambing earlier doesn't actually
give you a bigger lambs. At the other end, I
don't think.
Speaker 1 (23:33):
Yeah, Graham, Butcher's always pushing that theory just to extend
the lambing day down and not just to put everything
in a rush situation. Do you think it pays dividends
as far as that.
Speaker 9 (23:44):
I think so, there's definitely definitely more grass about when
when I set stock, And yeah, I'm mass even keen
to go another two or three days next year. Maybe
try to avoid that first weekend the September, which seems
to be always the nasty one.
Speaker 1 (23:57):
But yeah, now you've had an injury, you've been up
at cher christ Church. Of course you have a research
farm up there. What's been happening.
Speaker 9 (24:06):
Baron Brugg, the seed outfit had they call it Grass
to gold Field Day thing and then twelve of us
from Southern flew up there on Monday night and we
had a Tuesday and Wednesday the research farm at Darfield
and how do we look at their distribution center Rolston
And yeah, it was very interesting just sort of seeing
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what what they got coming along in the works and
what it takes to get a new cultivar of grass
to market it. Yeah, a lot goes into it, which
you don't really realize.
Speaker 1 (24:39):
What does go into doing a new cultivar of grass
as such, Like you say, it will be interesting.
Speaker 9 (24:45):
At least twelve years of trials and testing. They go
from breeding to to get a new a new one
and then yeah, she's basically twelve years of just trialing
and cutting out different ones that aren't so I had
a the mark. And then yeah, after that twelve years
they hopefully get to one or two. But then even
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after that twelve years, if it won't take the end
of fight, it can still get tossed to the wayside.
So you can see why these companies get quite excited
when they bring out a new swede or grass seed
or something.
Speaker 1 (25:15):
Yeah, so you constantly looking at your grass mixes as
to what you want to put on the farm or
do you stick with the tried and drew.
Speaker 9 (25:22):
I've had a good mix the last couple of years,
but I'm wanting to try and mix in a few
more tetraploids, which is a bit of a challenge on
a sheep farm because you've got that sort of forty
to fifty days where your set stocked. And yeah, the
old Tetra boys can tate quite a hiding.
Speaker 1 (25:40):
It's interesting you bring that up. Actually, you talk about
the wider conversation like ge genetic engineering and the likes.
What are your thoughts around that.
Speaker 9 (25:49):
I'm a little bit on the on the fence on it.
I'm just I don't really know enough about it yet.
I think it's probably something we need to lock into
if we're going to keep up the rest of the world.
But as long as it's not gonna hinder us in
the world markets, Yeah, I'd hate to be shut out
of some markets because we've gone down that track. But
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I think if we can use it and not be hindered,
it could be something worth looking at. But yeah, as
I say, I don't really know a whole lot of
about it yet.
Speaker 1 (26:22):
But yeah, that seems to be a general concern. I
suppose Brendan the fact this has been brought onto the
table and a lot of people are urging that there's
the discussion needs to be here before we gets looked
at any further. So the ramifications that he just talked about,
we don't go down that line.
Speaker 9 (26:38):
Yeah, I think there's definitely probably a space for a
mature conversation about it, but we're probably still five, ten,
fifteen years away from having it. But it was definitely
spoken about there at Baron Bruggen. Yeah, basically everyone in
the group was sort of about the same as we
just didn't know too much about it. But yeah, I
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think it's definitely worth looking into anyway.
Speaker 1 (27:01):
It's like a lot of things at the moment, like
the Paris Cord for example. It's all well and good,
not wanting to be involved with it, but I think
the bigger conversation is we need to have more information
as such.
Speaker 9 (27:12):
Yeah, I think with the Paris as much as a dog,
I think we can't really go jumping out of it
because we need the world more than the world needs us.
So yeah, if we go jumping out and trading partners
are like, well we don't really need you, Yeah, we
might be a bit bugget.
Speaker 1 (27:31):
Yeah, certainly going to be interesting how that pans out. Hey,
we'll let you carry out on the track to getting
the kail. Then always appreciate your time and you're gonna
get some rams off.
Speaker 9 (27:38):
How the Yeah, not very good, Auntie Andy, You have
a good weekend than yeah, cula.
Speaker 1 (27:46):
President Helden have been more. You're listening to the muster
up next to political double trouble in the studio. Actually,
MP Joseph Money for southmand m I Teching, MP Miles Anderson.
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This is the muster on Hakanui, a special treat joined
in studio this afternoon by our local MP, Joseph Mooney
of course, the MP for Southland, and as well Miles Anderson,
MP four Way Techi. Good afternoon, gentlemen.
Speaker 3 (28:19):
Good afternoon, good afternoon.
Speaker 4 (28:20):
Pleasure to be here.
Speaker 1 (28:21):
Oh yeah, great to see you guys in the studio
on a beautiful blue sky rid in the afternoon down
here in the South. But tell you what, Miles, it's
not like this every day. Let's be privately honest.
Speaker 4 (28:32):
Well, I wouldn't know. Joseph tells me it's perfect weather
all the time.
Speaker 3 (28:36):
Yeah, exactly right, it's beautiful all the time. Na's look,
just driving across the promise today is looking absolutely stunning.
At the moment, it was really looking good. And things
are things of picking up, I think, well, certainly in
the economy, and you're saying, just in the good weather,
people feeling pretty good.
Speaker 1 (28:50):
Yeah, prices aren't looking too bad. Land prices are up
there you prices as well. Just read meat deary across
the sector miles. Things are looking not too bad from
a grower's perspective.
Speaker 4 (29:01):
Yeah, and a long that last. Actually there's been a
particularly in the sheep beef sector. There's been a long
period where prices have been depressed and the farmers have
been not feeling the best about things. But the last
couple of years has really seen a big pickup and
lamb and new prices. Beef in particular is outstanding at
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the moment. So well we need to do now is
for crossbred wall to kick on and we'll have the trifector.
Speaker 1 (29:31):
Slowly but surely. It seems to be a bit of
a change in the market of there now miles. Just
for the uninitiated. Initiated, give people a bit of a
background about yourself.
Speaker 4 (29:40):
So I'm from South Canterbury. Were family farmed up there
where I am now for one hundred and thirty years.
My background. I started scanning sheep in nineteen ninety two.
Speaker 1 (29:59):
You would have been a pie for it, just about yeah,
I was.
Speaker 4 (30:01):
There was a guy called rowan farmer who did a
lot of scanning down here in Southland. Myself, another guy
called Dan Wheeler up North Canterbury. We all started the
same season, so it was Virgin territory for all of
us really, And then I did that for twenty one years,
took the business over to Australia. The two seasons New
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Zealand and Australia sort of complemented each other. Started in
Australia in late January and ridiculously hot temperatures and come
back to New Zealand in May and go right through
to mid September here scanning. And when I wasn't scanning,
I was on the family farm. And then after twenty
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one years with the contracting business, sold that and got
busy on the farm and ended up in a role
with our local fed farmers in South Canterbury. I got
that because I missed the meeting, as you do, you
miss the meeting, given a job, and I ended up
as the meat and wall chair for the National Feeds
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between twenty seventeen twenty twenty.
Speaker 6 (31:10):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (31:10):
Fascinating, fascinating insight, especially regarding the sheep skinning side of things. Now, Joseph,
the wester Target amp show happened last week the Upper
Cluthers on Upper Cluth about Cluther Show tomorrow. Sorry Cluther Show.
I think the terminology is but you just want to
come in on last week about Tappanui. About the vibe.
Speaker 3 (31:26):
Yeah, yeah, it was a beautiful day for a starters
in West Targo. But in the five odd years I've
been going there, it's the busiest I've ever seen it
and the really positive, you know vibe. I think people
are in really good space and just really interesting sort
of hearing. The feedback is obviously our regions started to
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season real uptick in the in activity. I think the
the amount of money that's flushing through from dairy and
better prices and the meat schedules is starting to really show.
And in fact I'm hearing farms now selling for record
prices in the region as a consequence, and that's an
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uptake that's been happening in our region. I think it's
starting to show across the country as it's all miles before.
I think the Aukan Port that's seen the strongest month
they ever had for like the important tractors, et cetera
up in Auckland. So it's the growth we're seeing here
is I think son to spread across the country, which
is fantastic.
Speaker 1 (32:28):
And of course the investment boost which God announced a
wee while ago. You tend to forget about this, Miles,
but certainly something. We've got the Southern Field Days coming
up in the next couple of months down here in
the South, and I dare say that's when we'll start
to see businesses really start to hum.
Speaker 4 (32:43):
Yeah, I'd agree. And being a farmer myself, I would
always think if I'm going to spend money where you
can get a tax rebate, you'd wait till the end
of the financial year, so you could see that rebate
pretty quickly the following year. And I expect between Christmas
and the thirty first of March for a bit more
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interest from business and farms, et cetera in capital expenditure
where they qualify for that investment boost.
Speaker 1 (33:15):
So what are the meetings you've been attending over the
last couple of days, Joe.
Speaker 3 (33:20):
So we've we've had the Prime Minister actually in the
region is with me and Queen Sound Dave. We're staying
with Miles and wite Teki.
Speaker 1 (33:26):
Bring to Go.
Speaker 3 (33:27):
We're working on it and if we've had him to
go before and brand and wymany last time as well.
So we're working on getting to WYMO again. Can't make
any promises, but working on it. But no, no, he's
well aware of the proud proud Gores and economic activity,
you know, economic center for the South as well. But look,
just today we've been doing and we've got another one
(33:49):
to go, doing some real announced meetings. So Miles is
the deputy chair, so you can probably talk a bit
more about that. But we've we've done a few and
today's has been having meetings and washing meetings of folks
and getting your feedback on a number of things that
are going on and their thoughts on what we can
do to shape up policy. But like Myles, we've probably
got the strongest rural caucus for about seven years in Ash, Buddy,
(34:12):
we're really strong.
Speaker 4 (34:14):
Yeah, we've got a number of the MPs have a
direct relationship to the primary industries, whether it's farming, horticulture, viticulture, fishing.
So there's there's quite a good background in the party
now in the caucus at least of primary production and
(34:37):
an understanding of it which is helping us as a
rural caucus shape some policy as well.
Speaker 1 (34:43):
Yes, let's be honest, from a rural perspective, like Sir
Mark Cameron and Andrew Hoggard from Act as well doing
what they're doing. Just having that rural presence across the government.
I think it's been appreciated.
Speaker 4 (34:54):
Yeah, I think I think it is. And then look
that we it's been a change in government and a
change attitude from government. Like the business in rural sector
felt like they've been villainized under the previous government, and
we're out here to say you're not the villains, you're
actually the heroes. You're the ones that are dragging us
out of the recession. You're the ones that produce eighty
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two percent of our export income and we appreciate you.
Speaker 1 (35:21):
There's some big figures coming out, what is it, two
percent of the population, over fifteen percent of the GDP
Joseph coming out of the south. That's big numbers.
Speaker 3 (35:28):
They are really big numbers, and our job is obviously
to keep that in the very much in the national
consciousness in Parliament and with a really strong Royal Caucus
it really helps. We've got a really strong voice in
our caucus, which is which is showing. I mean, this
government I think is probably made some of the biggest
moves to support the primary sector for decades, and we've
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actually spent a huge amount of our legislative agenda over
the last two years focus on a rolling back things
that the last goverment did that were dumb and didn't work,
but also you know, looking forward to actually how we
can do it. And the next couple of weeks we're
going to be leaning the replacement for the Resource Management Act.
What are something people have been crying out for for
a long time and there's I think these actual consensus
(36:14):
between the two main political parties, both Labor and National
that needs to be replaced. A bit of a difference
on how some of that is done, but we'll be
learning that that's going to make a huge difference to
the primary sector and other sectors actually as well.
Speaker 1 (36:26):
Absolutely, here's hoping we get bipartisan agreement on that one. Hey,
better leave it there, guys, Joseph Mooney and Miles Anderson,
thanks for coming in studio. Great to meet some of
KIVS alumni. I would have loved to have seen the
eighty four cent Kivens versus Deene take on the eighty
eight side.
Speaker 4 (36:41):
That would have been a treat Yeah, well it could
still happen.
Speaker 1 (36:47):
Good only guys.
Speaker 3 (36:48):
Says very much for your time, mate.
Speaker 1 (36:51):
Joseph Mooney and Miles Anderson. Great to have him in studio.
This is the muster on Hockno. Before you wrap up.
Jack Hilton talking south and Cricket. Welcome back to the Master.
(37:13):
I'm hakanui gee. It's like state holliwan in the studio
this afternoon. A couple of MP's and now a guy's
involved with Sealthland cricket. His name is Jack Hilton. He's
involved in boy Koey Cooey cricket down here in the
self and competition, but as well he is involved with
Southland cricket. But he came from England, of all places,
and he came here a few years ago and he
(37:35):
hasn't left. He's going to tell us about his journey
about arriving in good Good afternoon, Jack, Good to catch.
Speaker 10 (37:40):
Up afternoon and great to be here.
Speaker 1 (37:42):
How the hell did you end up in golf?
Speaker 10 (37:45):
I am it's probably quite a well told story for
a few people now, but well, it would have been
eight years ago I think.
Speaker 1 (37:53):
Now.
Speaker 10 (37:54):
I was back home in the UK and scrolling through
a couple jobs website. There was a cricket jobs wanting.
Usually you scroll through them and you're like, oh, that'd
be a great job, but you need professional playing experience
or whatever. And then the came to Southland or south
and popped up and I was like, oh, wow, I'm
(38:14):
pretty pretty much doing this for my club already. Why
don't I give it a crack. I won't get to
New Zealand otherwise a good chance to explore the world,
And yeah, got the job. Came over only ever thought
it was going to be one summer, and then loved
it and just kept coming back and here we are.
Speaker 1 (38:32):
So was it what you expected? I suppose coming over here.
Speaker 10 (38:37):
To some extent, I think in the UK club cricket's
a bit stronger, so that was probably a big transition,
was I guess In my job you deal a lot
more with the schools and cricket in that regard. So
once I, once I got used to that, yeah it was.
It's a different kind of lifestyle and culture over here,
(38:58):
way more relaxed, and I think that probably suits me
a lot more as well.
Speaker 1 (39:02):
Yeah, so whereabouts in the UK.
Speaker 10 (39:04):
You're from actually from Edinburgh, Scotland, so family is from Manchester,
kind of north of England, but we moved up to
Scotland when I was about five years old, I believe,
and we've been there ever since.
Speaker 1 (39:16):
So yeah, I played an Essex for Chignal Smealy. Oh wow,
just outside of Chelmsford. There's a few years ago now
for a lot of Keoyes. You go over there and
you played the cricket the Saturday and the Sunday and
it's pretty full on, just a club, believe the Lord
ever and was it like Koey Keoey obviously that you've
seen the advertisement forore for coming over here or how
did you align with them?
Speaker 10 (39:37):
Well, it was the Cooy's one hundred and twenty fifth
jubilee that season and Southern Cricket wanted to do a
bit of a project out here in eastern Southland and
they needed a place for me to stay for the summer,
and I believe the COUI were the first ones to
come forward and say we had an old farmhouse and
so long as he plays for us for the season,
you'll get rent for free. So didn't really we have
(40:00):
much of a choice. But then we went on to
win the comp that first season. I was like, well
I can't go anywhere else now. It doesn't get much
better than this, and here we are.
Speaker 1 (40:08):
And the thing about why kooey kewey. It's in the
middle of nowhere, yet here's two teams. And we talked
about this before. It's not about people being in the area,
but people wanting to travel to go the other play
the appeal of it.
Speaker 10 (40:20):
Yeah, I mean like these days, majority of our club,
as you say, don't live in or around the Quey,
a lot of as a goal base now and potentially
a little bit further afield than that. And yeah, I
think it's just I know, particularly in the A team
which I've played the majority of my games for that,
it's just we're all mates that have now played together
for seven, eight, nine years, some of them even longer
(40:43):
than that. And yeah, even this weekend's team it's almost
like a golden oldies team a little bit. But there's
a heck of a lot of excitement about tomorrow because
we're playing with a bunch just playing with a bunch
of mates really and hopefully a good level of cricket too, at.
Speaker 1 (40:57):
Least for Yon. Safire is still burning after losing the
FI by one lenk of the pitch last year.
Speaker 10 (41:02):
Oh yeah, let's let's move on quickly. I'm still not
over it.
Speaker 1 (41:07):
It was mind you you think about that it was
the only crickets Lord's twenty nineteen or Killies twenty nineteen
Lord's moment as well as true true, But anyway, look,
so you're working for Southland Cricket. What does it involved
as such?
Speaker 10 (41:18):
So yeah, I'm the development officer for south and Cricket,
so these days that covers the whole the Southland. I
said to somebody recently, I've kind of lost track of
days and dates at the moment and I almost planned
my week by which location I've got to be in.
So like on Mondays we're in Tiana. Now we've got
Tuesday cricket right here in Gore for the little ones,
(41:39):
Wednesday down in the cargo, Thursdays in verta Commas, a
day off, so working from home in the office, and
then Friday's back for the older kids in eastern Southland
down at Hamilton Park.
Speaker 1 (41:50):
So yeah, full on week.
Speaker 10 (41:52):
But it's just just trying to grow the game as
much as we can, I guess, constantly reacting to different
challenges that comes with community sport, Like it's the challenges
we facing. Cricket will be the same for rugby, football, hockey, netball.
Speaker 1 (42:07):
It's a different here now. There's so many options out there.
When I grow up and have seen this many a time, yeah, cricket,
rugby and tinas and then winter you hear the hips,
rugby and basketball if you hit the facilities.
Speaker 10 (42:17):
Yeah, yeah, there's a lot more. It's not just sports,
it's just activities as well. And yeah, like I guess,
our philosophy with cricket is we try and make it exciting,
like we're under no illusions. It can be Cricket can
be the worst sport in the world and one of
the most boring, and like I view a lot of
my role is how do we change that perception, not
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just with kids and players, but with coaches and parents
And yeah, hopefully, hopefully we can create a bit of
a buzz around the sport. And like it's my favorite sport.
I love it and hopefully I can I guess pass
that passion on as well.
Speaker 1 (42:53):
So how do you change a perception of cricket for
a lot of parents whose kids wants to play? It's boring.
You're sitting there, so what are you doing? You might
as well go and watch a grass grow that's a
common thing right here.
Speaker 10 (43:04):
Yeah, it's not an exact science, and I mean this
is my ninth summer here now, so I've still not
got it right on every level. But we do a
lot of in school visits with classes and play cricket
with them and hopefully fizz up the kids that way,
and they go home wanting to tell Mom and Dad
I want to play cricket jack or whoever was in
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school today. It's hopefully they say it's really cool. I
want to give it a crack. And then we've also
got to make sure we don't rest in our laurels
when they come down to Hamilton Park here or Queen's
parking in the cargo ready to play. We've got to
make sure that the games they get to play in
the competition they're involved in is just as exciting as
a visit from us in their school as well. So
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it's a I was about to say, a constant battle,
but yeah, just constantly each week. We're looking to always
improve and change things up, hopefully.
Speaker 1 (43:56):
Because I can imagine your job job being the most
rewarding as we are the most frustrating too.
Speaker 10 (44:01):
Yeah, I think you've probably nailed it there, it's always
it's really cool when the kids get underway after school
each day of the week wherever we are, and you
can just kind of all the pictures are playing and
you can just kind of take a minute to kind
of step back and just watch it. The music's blaring
and all the rest of it, and even the little
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ones like you five and six year olds right up
to your year sixes and year sevens and eight. So
you can look around and it looks like cricket that
you see on TV, and you think, oh, we're onto
something here, but then there's always an email or a
text or a phone call that's not far away and
something's maybe not gone quite to plan. But like I
view what I do, I feel very privileged to do it.
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Not many people can say they get to work and
earn a living out of a sport or something they love.
Speaker 1 (44:47):
So, yeah, is it buying from the schools with what
you're doing?
Speaker 10 (44:52):
Yeah, definitely. It's again it's tough. I know, like the
school curriculum. The school day is very jam packed and busy,
and we're really appreciative of schools to give us their
time and let us have their classes for half an
hour or whatever. It is, and then the enthusiasm that
a number of schools show towards helping us grow the game.
(45:15):
It doesn't go unnoticed, and for us it's just massive,
and you talk about it being rewarding to get that,
to be able to build up those kind of working
relationships with schools. I guess the other thing living in
a smallest town like Gore, in a community, you just
I say, if you go to the supermarket the wrong
time of day so to speak, so sort of just
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after school, it takes twice or three times as long
because you run into people that you know, and kids
are waving at you down the street because they've just
had a cricket session from you that day or stuff
like that. So yeah, I think everyone's pretty supportive, but
it's just with so much going on, we don't always
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get the numbers we'd like. But yeah, what a great
job to have.
Speaker 1 (46:01):
Though, just finally, basbell Yale or Nae, maybe it's not
an answer. Yeah, I know.
Speaker 10 (46:10):
After last week's performance he'd probably say nay. But at
least it's created a bit of excitement around that team
and around the Ashes series over and nausey at the moment,
So long may it continue? And hopefully makes for a
good summer of cricket as well.
Speaker 1 (46:26):
Hey, good on you, Jack, Thanks very much for your
time this afternoon coming in studio and you've got a
lot going on this afternoon. But that was really great
for the kitch up and at the killie tomorrow.
Speaker 10 (46:36):
I suppose that. Yeah, thanks for having me. Cheers Andy
yell laugh out loud with ag proud because life on
the land can be a laughing matter.
Speaker 1 (46:47):
Brought to us by sheer Well Data working to help
the livestock farmer. Bira was sitting at the bar steering
at the drake when a big biker walked up Greg
mcglass and swallowed it in a big goal. He goes, well,
what you're gonna do about your runt? And I just
started crying. I said, this has been the worst day
of my life. I was late to a meeting and
the boss fired me. When I got to the parking lot,
the car was gone stolen. I don't even insurance, left
(47:10):
a wallet in the Cabatil came then found my wife
of another man. To top it off, the dog bit me,
so I came here to get the carriageter ended and
I bought a drink I dropped poison in it. I
sat here watching it dissolved, and you'd walked in and
drink the whole bloody thing. But anyway, enough about me,
how's your day going? And that's us over and done
with for the week. Here on the Muster, the best
(47:31):
of five AM tomorrow morning, The Muster podcasts going up
on Oyheart Radio very shortly. I'mandy Muher. This has been
the Muster on Hock and now he thinks to Peters
and Elix, enjoy the weekend, see you Monday.
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