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Speaker 1 (00:04):
During the holidays. I have so much to be grateful for,
my family, my friends, friends that have lasted a lifetime,
the sunrise that greets me each day. Not that life
doesn't dish out its fair share of challenges and oftentimes
bone numbing grief. But I find that if I return
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to gratitude, if I go back to gratitude every day,
if I go back to God, thank you, thank you
for my health, thank You for my kids, thank You
for my life, I am able to make it through
the worst of times and find moments of joy every
day everywhere. I hope that you are able to do
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this too. If not today because you're currently weathering a storm,
than tomorrow or tomorrow after that. I hope you find
a little when you listen to my radio show at
night or this podcast. Besides being entertaining, as I'll get out,
I have ulterior motives for this platform, for this podcast,
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with Love Someone with Delilah. I want to inspire you.
I want to spark your interest, in ignite your imagination.
I want you to leave each episode thinking, hey, if
they can do that, if they can do what they're doing,
I could do something I love and maybe that would
make a difference in someone's life. Maybe it would make
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a difference in my own life. Maybe it would make
a difference in the world if I put some time
and energy into fostering an interest, or a hobby or
a child. Today's guest is a singer, a songwriter, an activist,
and a great role model. He was born Egbert Nathaniel Dawkins,
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the third in southern California. He grew up in Laguna Hills,
and he began playing trumpet in the third grade. Music
became such a huge part of his life, but he
would go on to major in linguistics and psychology at
the University of California and for a time worked for
Ernst and Young before launching his solo music career as
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Alo Black in two thousand and three. That year, Alo
released two EPs and signed to a record label. The
rest is history, though not two ancient history. Alo Black
is now an acclaimed Grammy nominated performer, known for major
hits like I Need a Dollar, the Man and his
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mega hit wake Me Up with Avichi, which has received
over four billion streams. Alo has also recorded his own
version of wake Me Up, which is absolutely beautiful. What
makes Alo different, or should I say One of the
things that makes him so unique, so special is that
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he pledged early in his career to use his music
for positive social transformation. With his new single Shine Aurora's Anthem,
Alo is using his music to shine a light on
critical humanitarian issues and to inspire others to simply do good.
With role models such as Nelson Mandela, Martin, Luther King Junior,
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and with mentoring from Harry Belafonte, Alo has shaped his
musical journey by following their legacies of courage and compassion.
Through Shine Aurora's Anthem in honor of the Humanitarian supported
by the Aurora Humanitarian Initiative, a foundation that seeks to
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address on the ground challenges around the world, Alo aspires
to ignite a movement among artists, encouraging them to embrace
themes of hope and unity in their art. By promoting
messages of resilience and empathy, He's reinforcing his belief that
every individual has the power to make a difference and
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that music can be a catalyst for social progress. I
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of the move, none of the cow with me. I
love someone today is a extremely talented young man, Alo Black.
Speaker 2 (06:23):
Hello, Delilah, thank you so much for having me.
Speaker 1 (06:25):
What was the name that your family gave you at birth?
Can I ask that?
Speaker 3 (06:29):
Oh?
Speaker 2 (06:29):
Yeah, my name is Nathaniel. So the family called Nathaniel.
Speaker 1 (06:33):
It wasn't just Nathaniel though. It's like three pages long.
Speaker 3 (06:37):
Oh right, it's a vestige of slavery. It's a colonial name.
You know, the Europeans had ways of naming Africans. So
Egbert Nathaniel Dawkins the third Wow.
Speaker 1 (06:48):
So this this, that's very colonial. You don't get much
more colonial than Egbert for somebody who's got African descent, right, wow.
So I have I have six children that are from Africa,
and a lot of their names were characteristics, character traits.
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That's very common in Liberia to name children like patients
or Justice or Mercy. So one of my daughters was
Mercy and one is Blessing.
Speaker 3 (07:21):
That is beautiful. I think that's really special. You know,
naming is a very important right of passage for parents,
I think, and then renaming for an individual as they
come of age.
Speaker 2 (07:35):
I think it's really important.
Speaker 3 (07:36):
I don't think it happens quite enough in our system,
just because you know, the Western world very particular about
categorizing and slotting everybody into their place, and they have
to keep that place from birth till death. But we change,
we transform, we grow, and we become butterflies from the
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caterpillars that we were before. And I think renaming is
a beautiful tradition that I believe exists in multiple, you know,
indigenous ethnicities around the world.
Speaker 1 (08:09):
Well, I like alo alo black. It sounds healthy. When
I think of alo, I think of how good it
is for you when you drink it or ingest it
or put it on your skin.
Speaker 2 (08:21):
Yeah, that's sort of where I got the name. You know.
Speaker 3 (08:23):
I was a young budding artist coming up with new
music and new concepts, and I felt like the music
that I was making was was smooth and soothing like Alo,
And so I've made a choice to give myself that
stage name that Moniker.
Speaker 1 (08:45):
Is it a stage name because it kind of seems
like it's you. That's I think of stage names as
something that you transform into on stage right. But from
everything I've read about you and everything I underst stand
about your core mission to share goodness and truth and
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mercy and love with humanity, there you don't get more
healing than that.
Speaker 3 (09:12):
Maybe I maybe I spoke it into the universe and
it became more true as I grew into the name.
Speaker 1 (09:20):
I think there's sometimes things find us, the truth finds us,
and there's nothing more healing for your soul. I mean,
Alo is healing for your body and for your skin,
but the love you're putting out there in your music
that heals the soul.
Speaker 2 (09:40):
Thank you. I appreciate that. It's part of the mission.
You know.
Speaker 3 (09:44):
When I had the tremendous grace and opportunity to be
a major recording artist with budgets and marketing and visibility,
I made a promise to myself that I would use
my voice for positive social change. And that's really how
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I've been dedicating the songs that I write and the
way I show up in community.
Speaker 1 (10:13):
How much pushback have you gotten from the industry, from
the machine, the music machine that wants to make hits.
How much pushback have you got for standing your ground
and saying, eh, no, I'm gonna, I'm gonna do it
this way, I'm gonna this is what the song is about,
this is what I'm about. Like, have they been supportive
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mostly or has it been an updild battle.
Speaker 3 (10:38):
I wouldn't say that it's been supportive mostly, But I
have a feeling that my engagement with the industry is
somewhat like judo, where any force that is used against
me becomes my weapon against the opponent.
Speaker 2 (10:57):
Oh that's good, And so.
Speaker 3 (11:01):
I still find ways for my messages to be heard.
And I feel like I've had a lot of luck.
Speaker 1 (11:09):
That ain't luck. That is not luck. Luck as when
you find a quarter on the ground.
Speaker 3 (11:16):
I guess, But you know, you just did a statistical
analysis on the messages that we receive that are being
shoved into our faces, into our ears from media across
the board, from television, news, from film, and streaming content,
from radio and.
Speaker 2 (11:35):
Music.
Speaker 3 (11:36):
The vast majority of it is not soothing, supportive psychologically.
You know, we're dealing with a lot of distress, trauma, anxiety, depression, misogyny, violence,
drug glorification, and I feel like there has to be
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some sort of balance to that. Someone somewhere has to
be supporting it. Some entity has to be creating it,
and other entities have to be sponsoring it, you know.
Speaker 2 (12:14):
And it's complicated and it's difficult.
Speaker 1 (12:17):
How many murders do kids witness by the age of ten.
Speaker 3 (12:20):
Yeah, in ways that would never happen in reality. And
this is the issue, this confluence of art and commerce,
where artists are saying, I'm just I'm just being an artist.
I'm writing these stories, I'm reflecting reality. But then commerce
comes and magnifies your reflection of reality in ways that
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are extremely biased and oversaturated. So it's at a certain
point you may have been reflecting a reality, but now
it's well distributed and completely overstated.
Speaker 1 (12:58):
And disgusting, destructive and breaks hearts and breaks minds and
breaks children.
Speaker 2 (13:06):
I think so.
Speaker 3 (13:06):
And so my thought is, you know, you mentioned the
machine before, and I feel like.
Speaker 2 (13:12):
At a certain.
Speaker 3 (13:13):
Age I would have and did want to rage against
the machine, but I realized that the machine understands rage,
but the machine doesn't understand love, so we have to break.
Speaker 2 (13:23):
It with love.
Speaker 1 (13:26):
I'm very proud of you. It's not easy, and it's
so easy to sell out, to get comfortable, and to
sell out. I read this story when I was much,
much younger, called the Great Seduction, and it's about how
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when you're young and you're talented, they give you the world.
You know, first class tickets or private jets. They give
you parties and access to all sorts of pleasures. Yeah,
and they get you hooked, and then you're asked to compromise.
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And I love the fact that it appears you haven't
been seduced.
Speaker 2 (14:12):
You know. I think what was my.
Speaker 3 (14:18):
Insulation, or what saved me, was the fact that I
went to university, I worked in corporate America. I had
an opportunity to grow, experience the world, develop a perspective,
become an adult, become a man, an individual, to exist
in the world, to have a place and a voice,
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and then to be given the megaphone without adulteration. So
there were no other adults who could tell me what
to do and how to be. If I had come
into the music business as a major recording artist, at
sixteen or below, any age of my brain being fully developed,
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the story may be different, but I was afforded the
opportunity to develops as a citizen, a conscious citizen, and
was able to make choices that I graduated into the
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major music recording industry with.
Speaker 1 (15:28):
I would love to have been a fly in a
while when you were in corporate America.
Speaker 3 (15:33):
It was it was not the same as my life now,
kind of boring, but it was good work. I was
working in the health sector as a business consultant, helping
children's hospitals improve care, whether we were developing their technology
or helping them collect from insurance companies.
Speaker 1 (15:52):
So that's very noble and doesn't surprise me given what
a caring person and how that seems to be the
core of who you are, is caring for others that
you work with children's hospitals, who have, by the way,
saved my children's lives multiple times. So I love love
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the work that children's hospitals do, and I love the
fact that they treat everybody, doesn't matter you know, your
economic status. If you walk through the door in your
child's in crisis, they're going to save their life. I
love that.
Speaker 3 (16:28):
That's a big deal, and I'm glad that that our heroes,
you know, operate from that perspective with the oath they take.
Speaker 2 (16:36):
There are so.
Speaker 3 (16:37):
Many other ways that the health system is broken, but
the fact that they will receive and help the children
is beautiful.
Speaker 1 (17:00):
Le's get back to talking about music, since that's what
you're here for, and we're going to be celebrating this
holiday season with new music from Alo Black. Tell me
about your new project.
Speaker 3 (17:13):
Yes, the music is songs inspired by nonprofit organizations. The
album is called Stand Together. It is an album that
is supported by a wonderful organization that supports community change
makers and some of the most amazing heroes in our communities.
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And I thought, why not do what Stand Together does
as an organization through music? How can I use my
voice to amplify these wonderful heroes.
Speaker 2 (17:48):
Within the communities.
Speaker 3 (17:48):
So a few of the organizations inspired these songs and
some of the social missions and perspectives of the Stand
Together group. One of the songs is called Breakthrough. The
title comes from the name of the organization. It's an
anti recidivism organization that works helping returning citizens find work,
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find education, opportunities, find housing, and offers them dignity in
their return to society. Oftentimes, you know, when I visit
prisons and juvenile halls, I recognize that the people behind bars,
who at some point may get out, we consider them
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being released as a second chance at life.
Speaker 2 (18:39):
And I've always, after having multiple conversations and hearing stories,
realize these folks never had a first chance. They come
from the most broken circumstances you could imagine.
Speaker 1 (18:51):
Do you want to hear a scary statistic, Tell me
eighty percent of boys who go through our foster care system,
eighty percent of boys who are in foster care for
eighteen months or longer will end up incarcerated by the
age of twenty five. So, our foster care system, which
currently has almost half a million children in its custody,
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doesn't create fully functioning adults. It creates prisoners. For an
economic I believe in economic system.
Speaker 2 (19:26):
It's an economic system. It's a pipeline.
Speaker 1 (19:28):
It's a pipeline.
Speaker 3 (19:29):
Statistic I heard about children who don't learn to read
by third grade have a higher chance of going into
prison as well.
Speaker 1 (19:38):
Yep.
Speaker 3 (19:39):
And so when you look at the machinations of how
lobbying and legislation work and funding education. You learn that
sometimes certain unions like prison guards unions and sheriffs unions
who control prisons are lobbying against education developed meant in
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order to build out this pipeline to conditioning system.
Speaker 1 (20:06):
How are you going to have a job if you're
actually nurturing and loving and encouraging and educating children and
giving them stability. Yeah, less than five percent of kids
who are in foster care will ever have a forever family.
Speaker 3 (20:23):
Yeah, there are and systems and cycles of generational trauma
that continue these and I think we have to look
at what is the responsibility of government with regard to
these cycles. Do we let them continue to play out
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or do we try to repair them? And you know
whose responsibility is the repair? Is it our responsibility to
taxpayers to continue to pay for prisons or should we
be paying for the repair?
Speaker 1 (20:59):
Is it our response one's ability as taxpayers to continue
to fund foster care that doesn't work?
Speaker 2 (21:05):
Understood? Why do these inadequacies persist.
Speaker 1 (21:08):
Because they're self governed, because there's no oversight, there is
no holding accountable, there are no checks and balances, There
is no one that holds that system or holds the
prison system accountable. They're not accountable to anyone but themselves.
Speaker 3 (21:25):
My thought is, how do we develop a world, and
certainly this country, a country that supports families such that
the foster care system is dramatically reduced.
Speaker 1 (21:40):
What a beautiful idea. How do we support families? How
do we support dads so that they know that they
are vital and a necessary part of the equation. How
do we break addictions? How do we heedal souls so
that people aren't running to the pipe or the bottle
to numb themselves. Do we do these things? I don't know.
Speaker 2 (22:02):
I don't know either. I just know that love is
part of the equation.
Speaker 1 (22:07):
It is the equation. It is the equation.
Speaker 3 (22:10):
Yeah, yeah, social justice shine is part of that. It
was a special meeting that I had. A friend of
mine invited me to the most amazing retreat in the Caribbean.
It was Necker Island. This is Richard Branson's private island.
And the attendees were executives from huge companies and scientists
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from the biggest and brightest research universities and some investors
who you know have paved the way for lots of companies.
And I had the opportunity to meet Nubar Afayen, who
is the CEO of Flagship Pioneerings Health Solutions. I would
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say biotech company. They were the ones that created Maderna.
And in conversation with him, he shared with me that
he was a co founder of an organization called the
Aurora Prize for Humanity. And as he was explaining to
me the amazing work that they do to award humanitarians
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who are engaged in the most impossible mission to save
lives and transform their countries or their communities, I was
inspired to write a song to amplify that work, the
work of the Aurora Prize, and I wrote Shine after
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learning of several of the recipients of the Aurora Prize.
Speaker 1 (23:54):
So tell me about some of the recipients that stand
out in your heart.
Speaker 3 (23:58):
Oh wow, there are folks who in the Congo doctor
Dennis mcquiga, who stood up a hospital to rescue victims
of violence. There is constant war at the border between
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Rwanda and the Democratic Republic of Congo. And this constant
war is over land. And the land that is being
fought for isn't necessarily the war that's happening is not
necessarily a war between the citizens of the Congo or Rwanda.
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It is a war between the US, Russia and China
for minerals that exist in this land, so our systems
higher mercenary militaries to fight over land to keep the
land in a vague question of ownership, so that mining
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can happen while there is no rightful owner to the land.
Speaker 2 (25:13):
If that makes any sense.
Speaker 1 (25:14):
Oh, I know all about it, okay.
Speaker 3 (25:17):
So and as we you know, I mean, we're here
talking to one another on technology that requires the minerals
that being mined. But the violence and the death and
the destruction doesn't have to happen. But doctor Dennis mcquagey
is helping to heal the people who are harmed during
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these conflicts, and in particular repairing women who have been
damaged by sexual violence in these wars, in these conflicts.
And in order for him to continue doing his work,
you know, there's got to be some source of support.
And Aurora Prize has awarded him. It's a significant purse
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in order to continue this work.
Speaker 1 (26:05):
Have you ever heard of the book God Sleeps in Rwanda?
Speaker 2 (26:09):
No, but I will finally read it.
Speaker 1 (26:11):
Read it. Two things I will I will ask you
to explore. One is a movie called Sometimes in April,
mm hmm. And one is a book that's called God
Sleeps in Rwanda.
Speaker 2 (26:24):
Yeah, I'll find it.
Speaker 3 (26:25):
Thank you when you when you hear of the struggle
that people are going through in so many other parts
of the world, and not for any other reason than
the read of the Western world, it just it tears
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me apart. It breaks my heart, and it makes me
feel more compelled to be as vocal as and and
loud and as much of an ally and a stand
for them as possible. Had the opportunity to sing at
the Legal Defense Fund gala recently, and in the audience
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was Tim Cook. And as we started dinner after some
of the discussions that happened on stage, many people were
walking up to Tim Cook to take a picture and.
Speaker 2 (27:20):
Get a moment with him.
Speaker 3 (27:22):
And I noticed the crowd and I thought, hmm, I
should go stand in that crowd. I'm going to get
close to Tim, but I'm not going to take a photo.
I am going to ask for his help in pushing
for a conversation with his competitors and colleagues in the
technology world to be more vigilant about conflict minerals.
Speaker 2 (27:50):
I mean, who else can do it.
Speaker 3 (27:53):
It has to come down to either we as the consumers,
deciding that we don't want products with blood in them.
And so my job is to make sure more people know.
It has to start.
Speaker 1 (28:07):
Somewhere, sing, sing, sing, right, because you have such a
beautiful voice and such a clarity of understanding of how
evil evil is. It doesn't care, Evil doesn't care, and
it just breaks my heart.
Speaker 3 (28:27):
But you know we have we can, we can love
will conquer evil. I really truly believe it.
Speaker 1 (28:32):
Is I do do.
Speaker 3 (28:34):
It takes all of all of our attention and concerted effort,
and right now we're very distracted. So my job with
this megaphone is to say, hey, guys, look over this way.
Speaker 1 (28:47):
I'm learning much about Alo Black, his music and his
dreams of making a difference in inspiring others to do
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Speaker 2 (30:38):
Hey, that was that?
Speaker 3 (30:40):
Was My sole mission of getting up from my seat
and my dinner was to go and make sure that
he knew and I couldn't leave that room without doing it,
it would not be from all of the things. So
I was a mentee of Harry Belafonte, rest in peace,
and from everything that I knew.
Speaker 1 (30:56):
I was a crush on Harry Belafonte. Okay, what a
beautiful man.
Speaker 3 (31:05):
Everything that I knew about him and what he stands
for and how he operated compelled me to make that statement.
And should I have the opportunity to speak to Satya
Nadella or to you know, anyone else in these lofty positions,
I'm going to state the case so that when they leave,
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they are present to their complicit behavior.
Speaker 2 (31:34):
And so that should they disregard it, that's on them.
Speaker 1 (31:37):
That's on them.
Speaker 2 (31:38):
But they are present to it.
Speaker 1 (31:40):
Amen, A voice of one crying in the desert, that's
what you are.
Speaker 3 (31:46):
Well, I'm not just one. I just I might be
in a unique position. I'm not the only one, though
there are others. Hopefully we can all sing a chorus.
Speaker 1 (31:55):
Yeah, well, keep shining and keep singing, and keep keep rattling,
keep rattling the cage and speaking out and saying for me,
it's kids. I mean, it breaks my heart what we're
doing to the environment. It breaks my heart. What's happening
to see mammals into sea creatures and to the bees.
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There's so much that breaks my heart. But my energy
goes into the kids. My energy goes into the kids
and letting them have a voice, and letting them have
dignity and letting them have access to life in its fullest. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (32:36):
Yeah, they they deserve to have, you know, clean air,
clean water, fresh organic produce.
Speaker 1 (32:43):
Love, safety, security, Yeah.
Speaker 2 (32:46):
Joy really, joy is a human right.
Speaker 1 (32:49):
But I'm excited about your music. I'm excited about the album.
Tell me the name of the album and the project again.
Speaker 3 (32:56):
The name of the album is Stand Together, and one
of the songs on the album is called Shine. It
was written inspired by the Aurora Prize for Humanity, which
is an organization that awards humanitarians who are facing mortal
danger to transform their communities and their regions and their countries.
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A really noble organization helping really noble people.
Speaker 1 (33:23):
Well, thank you, Thank you for using your megaphone, your
beautiful voice.
Speaker 2 (33:27):
Thank you for giving me the chance to share amplify.
Speaker 1 (33:32):
The album. Good Things came out in twenty eleven. The
single I Need a Dollar used as a theme song
to HBO's How to Make It in America. Several more
singles on the album charted in the UK. Wake Me
Up with Swedish performer Ravici reached number one in one
hundred and three countries. Thank you, Alo for spending time
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with us today. If you didn't know Alo Black's name
before today, you certainly knew his music and now no
his heart, his compassion. He is committed to making a
positive difference in the world. He just announced his new
album Stand Together with a performance of the single Don't
Go Alone on Good Morning America this past Friday, December thirteenth.
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The album comes out soon, so be watching and waiting
for that happy news early in the coming year. By
shining such a bright light and important social issues, Alo
hopes to empower individuals and communities, reminding us all of
our shared responsibility to uplift one another and contribute to
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a brighter future. That sounds familiar. To put it another way,
love someone, God bless you, and I'll see you next time.
Un Love someone with the lailah