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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Hello, my friends, Welcome back. Welcome to another episode of
Love Someone with Delilah. I'm so glad you are joining me.
I could not have chosen two more perfect guests to
have on this springtime I have been a huge fan
of the series. This is us. I don't know if
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fan is the right word. I'm addicted. It's my guilty pleasure.
I love all of the characters, but I especially love
Kate Pearson. When I heard that the actress that plays
Kate Pearson was starring in a movie called Breakthrough, I
had to get in touch with her. I had to
invite her to come and chat with me. Little did
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I know that this interview would come with a bonus guest,
because the producer of the movie Breakthrough is also joining us,
and he is also somebody that I am so geeked
to meet. I can barely contain my excitement because though
we have never met, I've actually worked for him in
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the past. Let's meet my guest right now with me
today is Devon Franklin and Chrissy met and in the
studio is also my little dog. I have a five
month old puppy Schnauzer, and I got to tell you too,
when my my little puppy gets excited, chief he pitdles
on the floor and I'm I feel like I'm going
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to do that any minute. I'm so excited.
Speaker 2 (01:35):
Well, you should just.
Speaker 3 (01:36):
Put a puppy pat down, right, I should right now?
Speaker 2 (01:38):
Oh my gosh, oh.
Speaker 1 (01:41):
My gosh, oh my gosh, Chrissy, I love you and Devon.
I love, love, love you guys so much.
Speaker 3 (01:49):
Well, the feeling is so mutual. I can't even tell you.
I almost fell off my chair when I was like, wait,
like Delilah. I'm like wait like Delilah, Slilah. Yeah, yeah, yeah, And.
Speaker 1 (01:59):
I'm like Christy, oh my, Chrissy, I love you, but
I hate that you make me cry so much.
Speaker 3 (02:06):
You know, I know that you love to hate that
and you hate it. I do. I get it.
Speaker 1 (02:11):
I have not had television in my house for over
twenty years. Wow, I haven't had TV in my house.
So I have to have my teenagers show me how
to get to you. And I gotta be honest, it's
my guilty pleasure. And I save up the episodes until
I'm having a really really bad day and then I
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just like, okay, mom is going up to the room
and they're like, oh, here we go, She's gonna be
cryings and the floodgates open. But oh my gosh, I
love you and DeVaan. I'm surprised if one we haven't met,
because you were the executive producer in the movie that
I start in.
Speaker 2 (02:51):
Yeah, the Star, The Star.
Speaker 1 (02:54):
Why did we not win like an Academy for that?
Speaker 2 (02:57):
I don't know. Well, on the next one, we will
my four lines.
Speaker 1 (03:01):
I delivered them with passion.
Speaker 2 (03:05):
Listen. We were grateful to get you, you know. I
know it was unfortunately that our pas you know, didn't cross,
but I was incredibly grateful that you would spend some
time and record those lines for us, because you did
a great job and we needed to and that voice,
yes voice.
Speaker 1 (03:20):
Well, I have to share before we talk about Breakthrough,
which I don't know if I'm going to be able
to talk about because it's really hard to talk about.
But before we talk about that, I have to tell
you this strange coincidence. I don't know who wrote my lines,
if you wrote those, or who wrote my lines for
the Star, And like I said, I only had a
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few of them. But the last line that I had
in that cute little movie was come on Zachariah parties
over it's time to go home? Because I played Elizabeth,
wife of Zachariah, who God had shut his mouth because
he was saying foolish things. I went in the studio
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recorded the lines. I completely forgot about it. And from
the time that I recorded the lines and the time
that the movie debuted in during the holidays, God called
my son Zachariah.
Speaker 2 (04:16):
Home, Oh my goodness.
Speaker 1 (04:20):
And I had completely forgotten that line. So the movie
comes out, I pack all my kids together, we go
down to see it together, and I'm like, oh, this
is going to be the most amazing thing, you know.
And it was literally weeks after zach had gone home
and changed his address to have and then that line
comes on and the whole theater, because everybody in the
theater was with me, They're all like, wow, parties over
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time to go home?
Speaker 2 (04:46):
Oh whoa, Yeah, believable, absolutely unbelievable.
Speaker 1 (04:51):
But let me tell you, while he was here the
eighteen years God gave him, he partied with loving his
heart for everybody. I want to talk about breakthrough and
what brought you two together to rip all of our
hearts out again?
Speaker 2 (05:09):
Oh wow? I mean, you know, listen, it was not us.
A couple of years ago, when I was promoting Miracles
from Heaven, which is a film I produced before I
produced The Star, I was on TVN and on that
program there was a Smith family, Joyce Smith and John
Smith and pastor Jason Noble, and they were telling their story.
And when I heard that Joyce prayed John back to
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life after he died falling through a frozen lake, I said,
this is unbelievable. I mean, in the medical record it
says patient dead and mother prayed patient came back to life.
And once I heard that, I knew that I had
to bring this to the big screen. And that was
just about three years ago. And you know, there is
no movie without a star, and there was no other
star that could do the role of Joyce but for
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Chrissy Metz. And when she said yes, that was the
process that really allowed us to make the film. And
we're just hoping that audiences around the world are inspired.
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conversation we were just having. So, Chrissy, what was your
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gut reaction when you first heard about Joyce or read
the script? What happened in your in your heart?
Speaker 3 (07:13):
You know, I thought, oh am I capable of doing this?
I mean, that's always sort of the question. I don't
want to do something if I you know. Of course,
my ego is like if you don't do it well,
then don't do it at all. But also there's a
lot of growth to have been had, and so I
I just sort of how to sit with with myself
and my thoughts and pray about it and you know,
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ask for guidance or advice from you know, my team.
And I was attached to another project at the time
that wasn't really going to allow me to be a
part of both, and then that fell through and I thought, okay, okay,
everything I already knew was just confirmed because everything just
fell into place. So, you know, trusting your gut is
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is a hard thing to do, especially in Hollywood, I think,
but yeah, it just it was the right thing.
Speaker 1 (08:01):
It was meant to be obviously, so it got to
me on many levels, obviously as a mom, but also
as a mom who has adopted kids, because that's a
piece of the story. I don't know how many people
are going to talk about, but we need to talk
about that because you playing Joyce the mom, are praying
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back your son John, who you adopted. And I think
a lot of times when well, I know, when people
talk to me about my children, they're like, well, which
ones are your real children?
Speaker 3 (08:38):
All of them?
Speaker 2 (08:39):
Right, they're all your yeah? Yeah.
Speaker 1 (08:41):
And the character, the role you play, you make it
very very clear and all of us adoptive moms are
saying thank you.
Speaker 3 (08:50):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (08:51):
The level of love and intimacy and commitment and just
undying love you have for that child mountains.
Speaker 2 (09:01):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (09:01):
Well that's Joyce Smith for him.
Speaker 2 (09:03):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, that is how she really is in
real life. I mean, just a powerhouse, doesn't take no
for an answer, but she does it with love and
the way that she loved John. I mean, that's really
one of the reasons why I wanted to do the
movie was when I found out that, you know, she
had adopted him, her and her husban Brian adopted him
when he was six months old from Guatemala, and you know,
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just the idea that he struggled with, why wasn't he
wanted And you know, she would try to affirm that,
but it wasn't until he went through this incident and
came out on the other side of it and saw
that it was his mother's prayers and the prayers of
the community and the love of the community and his
mother that really helped save his life. That he began
to understand that he had a purpose in a place.
And I think that's just so powerful and we really
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wanted to portray it in the way that they experienced it,
and we're just grateful that Joyce and John really feel
like we got it right.
Speaker 1 (09:52):
So how much backlash Devone did you get when you said, well,
you've been doing this for a long time. You've been
getting backlash because you have been involved with movies, powerful
movies about miraculous faith since your career began. But when
you said, Okay, Christy, let's do this, did you guys
get you know, backlash from people or are people being
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really supportive?
Speaker 2 (10:16):
You know? I mean as far as I don't really
read comments and whatnot, but from what I can tell
you having screened the film and been across the country
in multiple screenings with all different types of audiences, there
have been any backlash. I mean, people love Chrissy Metz,
They love her portrayal of Joyce. It is so emotional.
No matter what your faith journey is, you can find
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something relatable in Breakthrough. I think we all, you know,
are searching for our place. We all want love, and
so there really hasn't been that kind of backlash. And
when people see Breakthrough, I mean they I think it's
all worth it. So whatever conflict there may be, or
whatever backlash may come, it's all worth it because they
are lives that will be changed for the better because
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of a film. I don't like it.
Speaker 1 (11:01):
So, Chrissy, I got to ask you after watching you
for hundreds of hours on three seasons of This Is Us,
where your character sometimes is a little self centered. Yeah,
I was so happy to find out, because I after
I watched the first season, I researched you, like at
nauseam to find out that that you are not that character,
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but you play her very well. But the character you
play in the movie Breakthrough Joyce is so other focused
and yet both characters you play with such tenacity.
Speaker 3 (11:37):
Well, thank you.
Speaker 1 (11:38):
So I'm guessing that tenacity is the real Chrissy Metz.
Speaker 3 (11:42):
Yes, I mean I didn't pursue acting for twelve years
of eating ramen noodles without that tenacity, you.
Speaker 1 (11:49):
Know, And I know one hundred and one way to
cook ramen noodles, by the way, you know, let me
tell you, after you've been fired twelve times in radio,
you you and your ramen noodle recipes.
Speaker 3 (12:02):
Right, and then it's very delicious. Yeah, absolutely, But yeah,
you have to be tenacious in that pursuit. And I
always was really cognizant of why was I doing it?
Because it wasn't about fame and fortune. That's sort of just.
Speaker 1 (12:17):
Like a nice byproduct.
Speaker 3 (12:19):
Yeah, but like what is it that I'm supposed to
be doing? And how do I How am I an instrument?
And how am I a conduit?
Speaker 1 (12:27):
And so so answer that question with this movie, how
are you a conduit? What do you feel God called
you to do?
Speaker 3 (12:35):
I think to portray Joyce and and this Smith family,
there's their story in how you know even in the
most uncertain times, that you you can ask for what
it is that you want and that you need. And
I hope that is conveyed through through the message and
through the story because that's exactly what she did and
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she had no qualms about it.
Speaker 1 (12:57):
And do you think you'll carry that into your life? Oh?
Speaker 3 (13:00):
I definitely have. I definitely have more show than I
ever have before.
Speaker 1 (13:06):
Devon. What do you hope folks will be talking about
once they go see I'm going to tell everybody because
take your family, take your friends, everybody to go see Breakthrough.
It's so perfect, especially during you know the season of
renewal and new life and new birth and springtime and
Easter Sunday, what are you hoping, Devon? People will be
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saying as they drive home and talk about breakthrough right
before they turn my radio show back on.
Speaker 2 (13:36):
Well, you know, Delta, I really hope that people, you know,
go and see this film and they have the experience
that audience is around the country are already having, which is,
you know, we hold so much in you know, day
to day, and what's happening is people see this film
they're able to release and let go. It's very cathartic.
Audiences are walking out of the theater with their own breakthroughs,
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you know, breakthroughs of emotional healing, breakthroughs of love, breakthroughs
of finding or feeling like they have a place in life.
And so my hope and prayers everyone who sees the
film will experience their own breakthrough in an area of
their life, so that it goes beyond just being entertainment
for two hours, but it becomes a catalys for change
in their life.
Speaker 1 (14:15):
Well, thank you, thank you, thank you for spending this
time with me. I hope someday I can just squeeze
you and kiss you and tell you how much I
both love you.
Speaker 2 (14:24):
Yeah and not wait wait wait o, nice to meet you.
Speaker 1 (14:29):
Thank you. Make sure you take the time to go
see the movie Breakthrough when it comes out on the
seventeenth of this month, and make sure you subscribe to
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