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May 18, 2024 41 mins

How do we stop the spread of antisemitism? In Part Six, we continue the story behind the Candace Owens & Daily Wire feud. Along the way, we see how a spat between P. Diddy & Kanye "Ye" West would eventually lead to a public conversation almost no one wanted to have.

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Previously on Red Pilled America.

Speaker 2 (00:58):
The artist was hospitalized and placed on a psychiatric hold.

Speaker 3 (01:01):
Kanie West is a genius.

Speaker 4 (01:02):
We ain't Jewish. We don't get family that got money
like that. It was like an ignorant compliment.

Speaker 3 (01:07):
But let's not pretend that Kanye West is some sort
of genius.

Speaker 5 (01:09):
I don't subscribe to icons. You take the Nazi symbol
if you go to India, It's all over the place, but.

Speaker 6 (01:15):
It doesn't represent that.

Speaker 4 (01:16):
It represents something different.

Speaker 7 (01:17):
I'd never in my entire life been accused of anti Semitism,
and suddenly I was fighting for my career.

Speaker 3 (01:22):
They said there were weapons of mass destruction.

Speaker 6 (01:24):
There were none, and they knew there were none.

Speaker 3 (01:26):
Donald Trump is a smoking, garbage heap of human debris.

Speaker 1 (01:29):
If the twenty sixteen elections showed anything about the Daily Wire,
it showed that Israel was its top priority. I'm Patrick CARELCI.

Speaker 2 (01:39):
And I'm Adriana Cortes.

Speaker 1 (01:41):
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Speaker 2 (01:45):
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Speaker 1 (01:51):
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Speaker 2 (01:54):
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Speaker 1 (02:00):
You can think of Red Pilled America as audio documentaries,
and we promise only one thing, the truth. Welcome to
Red Pilled America RAD, part six of our series of

(02:22):
episodes entitled Family Feud. If you haven't heard the previous episode,
stop and go back and listen from the beginning. We're
looking for the answer to the question what can we
do to stop the spread of anti Semitism by telling
the story of the epic conflict between Candice Owans and
the Daily Wire. So to pick up where we left off,

(02:44):
during the twenty sixteen election, Donald Trump claimed George W.
Bush lied America into the Iraq War. It was a
watershed moment in one fell swoop, the real estate mogul
repudiated decades of GOP politics, yet still won the primary.
The neocons were outraged. They believed the accusation meant Trump
was an enemy to Israel. The Nevertrump movement was born.

(03:08):
The Daily Wire rode the wave of that movement, and
by Election Day twenty sixteen, one thing became crystal clear
for the men at the helm of the Daily Wire.
The top priority was Israel above all else. This was
the institution Candace Owens was walking into four years later
when on Election Night twenty twenty, she signed on to
becoming a host at The Daily Wire.

Speaker 7 (03:30):
Hanna Owens is coming to Nashville, baby, all right.

Speaker 1 (03:34):
It was only a matter of time before the bold
anti victimhood black conservative would face off with the founders
of the burgeoning Neo Kon streaming service.

Speaker 2 (03:52):
In January twenty twenty one, Candace Owens gave birth to
her first child, a son. Just two months later, she
was already promoting the launch of her new show. She
called it Candace, and her initial promotional trailers are jarring
given what would eventually transpire.

Speaker 7 (04:09):
Working with The Daily Wire to me felt like it
was the right move for a lot of reasons. But
I think the biggest one is that we're seeing conservative
voices being kicked out of culture. So I think the
timing right now is really crucial to stand up on
a platform and to say I'm here, I'm a conservative,
I'm not apologizing.

Speaker 2 (04:28):
In the run up to her March nineteenth, twenty twenty
one debut, The Daily Wire placed massive billboards in Nashville, Tennessee,
the hometown of the streaming service. The ads were emblazoned
with the caption uncancellable. Then Shapiro even took a selfie
with one, and would ultimately be among Candas's first guests.

Speaker 7 (04:45):
All Right, Ben, it's my first day here. Do you
have any advice for me?

Speaker 3 (04:48):
So here's the thing. Never go in the dressing room
and Noles' is in there.

Speaker 2 (04:52):
Over the next year, Candace interviewed right wing celebrities like
UFC president Dana White, radio host Clay Travis, comedian Adam Rola,
Oscar winning actor John Voyd, and even the forty fifth
President of the United States.

Speaker 7 (05:05):
Welcome to a most special episode of Candace Today. I'm
going to be sitting down and interviewing President's Donald Trump.

Speaker 2 (05:12):
In many ways, Candace was becoming the Oprah Winfrey of
the rite that by mid twenty twenty two, video excerpts
of a documentary she was producing started trickling in online,
and it was the type of film that Oprah would
never touch. Who was George Floyd. The documentary intended to
be critical of the Black Lives Matter movement, and it

(05:35):
was without a doubt, going to upset Candas's brothers and
sisters in the black community. As the fall of twenty
twenty two approached, she began preparing to promote the film.
It was obvious by then that Candace knew how to
make noise on her own, but she was about to
reconnect with her global superstar friend and set the Internet
on fire again.

Speaker 8 (05:54):
Everyone here has dedicated their lives to creating and to.

Speaker 3 (05:59):
Be a part of something.

Speaker 2 (06:01):
Kanye West, or Yeay, as he started calling himself, produced
a runway show at Paris Fashion Week twenty twenty two
for its Easy Collection, and he opened the show speaking
to the crowd about the challenges he'd faced after a
runway show years earlier.

Speaker 8 (06:15):
A week after that show happened, my wife at the
time got Rob's.

Speaker 6 (06:18):
Right here in Harris.

Speaker 8 (06:20):
Then I told my manager at that time, Scooter Rob,
that I just wanted to go to Japan and I
just needed a break, and he said, no, you need
to go make more money, so we need to do
a second leg at a tour. And that tour lasted
for four days and I went to the hospital for
the real And every time I do something great, someone
brings up that.

Speaker 9 (06:40):
Moment for the rest of my life.

Speaker 8 (06:42):
It's the ultimate stim People feel like they have a
right to come to my face and call me crazy,
like it doesn't her my feelings, or like you don't
have to be crazy.

Speaker 9 (06:53):
In order to change the world.

Speaker 2 (06:55):
Candice and Ye hadn't been seen together in public for
a while. Rumor had it that the Kardashian family walled
off the iconic artist the marriage of Kim and Kanye
was one of two pop culture titans with global influence.
Kanye is flirting with the right wing endangered their growing empire.
The rapper would later tell Tucker Carlson what he learned

(07:15):
while being married to Kim.

Speaker 5 (07:17):
It was wild that I didn't know how close my
own wife was to the Clintons.

Speaker 6 (07:23):
How close was she to the Clintons, I mean.

Speaker 5 (07:25):
Cell phone away, like or hey, tell ye to say
this away.

Speaker 2 (07:29):
He'd also learned that others were involved in his wife's
business without his knowledge.

Speaker 5 (07:33):
I had a dinner with Ivanka, Jared and Josh.

Speaker 2 (07:38):
Ivanka being President Trump's daughter, Jared is her husband, and
Josh Kushner is Jared's.

Speaker 5 (07:42):
Brother, and a couple days later, I found out that
Josh Kushner had ten percent of Skims, which is a
line that I had developed with Kim, and I had
five percent of Skims.

Speaker 2 (07:56):
The news shocked Kanye. He'd come to believe that Josh
kush was involved with his wife for the connections he would.

Speaker 5 (08:02):
Make her business partners are selling pieces of the company
that they don't have to because the company's already so successful,
and it's an internet based company, so It's like they're
really just selling off the company in order to create
more relationships for themselves.

Speaker 2 (08:18):
Kanye would later call out Josh Kushner on his involvement
in his wife's clothing line.

Speaker 5 (08:23):
I said, Hey, Josh, what if I had ten percent
of Carly Klaus's Lingerie Shapewear swimsuit line and you have
five percent of it and you didn't know, how would
that make you feel.

Speaker 2 (08:40):
Carly Closs is a former Victoria Secrets model and is
Josh Kushner's wife. Over time, his interactions with Jared and
Josh Kushner led Kanye to believe that Jared was not
serving President Trump's best interest while his advisor in the
White House.

Speaker 5 (08:56):
And then after talking to them and really sitting with
Jared and sitting with Josh and finding out other pieces
of information, I was like, Wow, these guys might have
really been holding Trump back and being very much a handler.

Speaker 2 (09:10):
He'd ultimately conclude that Jared was involved in Middle East
policy talks while in the White House for personal gain.

Speaker 5 (09:17):
I just think it was to make money, and I
just think that that's what they're about, is making money.
I don't think that they have the ability to make
anything on their own. I think they were born into money.

Speaker 2 (09:28):
His theory would later find some validation when news broke
that Jared Kushner received a massive investment from Saudi Arabia
when he exited the White House.

Speaker 10 (09:37):
Jared Kushner, who ran Middle East policy as a sort
of shadow Secretary of State during the Trump years and
the son in law of Donald Trump, had advised the
president at the time, Donald Trump, to cozy up to
Saudi leaders, including by not protesting Saudi brutal human rights violations.

Speaker 11 (09:55):
Leaked documents from within the Saudi Arabian Sovereign Wealth Fund
revealed that the Crownpencil in Saudi Arabia, Mohammed Brin Salmon
personally Greenland two billion dollars in capital to Jared's fake
investment fund.

Speaker 2 (10:11):
Kanye's wife, Kim Kardashian, filed for divorce in early twenty
twenty one, then went on a date with comedian Pete Davidson,
who would eventually taunt Kanye, texting the rapper that he
was in bed with his wife. The divorce gave the
opening for Candace and Kanye to reconnect at Paris Fashion
Week twenty twenty two. They were ready to make some

(10:31):
noise together again. Candace would later explain how the two
joined in Paris.

Speaker 7 (10:36):
Kanye called me and he said that he needed me
to be there at the show, and he needed me
to be a part of the show. And when he
told me what he had in mind and wearing these
T shirts, which by the way, he told me the
day of, I instantly understood what he was trying to
do and what the artistic expression was.

Speaker 2 (10:50):
At the end of his fashion show, Candace and Ye
stood arm in arm before a gaggle of cameras wearing
T shirts with a phrase that shocked the black community.

Speaker 12 (11:00):
They were a white Lives Matter T shirt at his
Easy season nine show, and people are talking about it.

Speaker 7 (11:06):
What it offered was a stunning commentary on the hypocrisy
of the society that we live in. For years, we
were told that Black Lives Matter was not an exclusionary phrase.
We were told that it's just what we're saying. We're
not trying to leave white people out right, We're just
saying it's because this is a moment that Black Americans
need to have in this country.

Speaker 3 (11:24):
It was okay to say Asian lives matter.

Speaker 7 (11:26):
We bought a T shirt to actually do something that
was inclusive to say, actually, white Americans, you are allowed
to be a part of this too, because literally all
lives matter, and in fact, no lives have been mattering.

Speaker 2 (11:37):
But the inclusive message was ignored. Blacks were outraged.

Speaker 13 (11:42):
This man stands for nothing. He changes his identity every
single week to fit whatever single controversial mold he wants
to get a headline in for the first day.

Speaker 14 (11:54):
If it weren't for Canvas Owens, I would almost think
he was going for irony.

Speaker 9 (11:58):
But her looking at him like that and their arms
being interlocked, it's too far. It's too far gone.

Speaker 2 (12:03):
The T shirts were a condemnation of BLM. America was
beginning to understand that the leaders of that movement were
using the narrative of black oppression to generate millions of
dollars for themselves. It was a money grab, and the
duo wanted to tell the black community that they were
being conned. To underscore that point, Yay posted on Instagram.

Speaker 15 (12:28):
Everyone know that Black Labs Matters was a scam, and.

Speaker 2 (12:31):
It was that message that fed into Candas's next project,
The Internet is Broken.

Speaker 7 (12:36):
Because I wore a T shirt alongside Yay West which
read white Lives Matter.

Speaker 2 (12:45):
Candace was using the moment to promote her BLM documentary.

Speaker 7 (12:49):
I'm doing an entire documentary to expose the fraudulent nature
of that movement and the organization that stood behind it
and benefited billions and billions of dollars because they elicited
black grief.

Speaker 2 (13:05):
By any measure. Their publicity campaign was a smashing success.
Yay got global coverage for his fashion show, and Kandas
was gaining maximum exposure for her new documentary. But what
Candace couldn't have known at the time was that in
just a few days her friend was going to get
in a bit of a pissing contest that would splash

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SUPPORTIFCJ dot org. Welcome back to red pilled America. So
shortly after Kanye and Candace's White Lives Matter publicity campaign,
Sean P. Diddy Combs went onto the popular radio program
The Breakfast Club, and he had some words for his
fellow hip hop mogul.

Speaker 15 (15:20):
And then I was gonna put out these T shirts
today Kanye nothing. And then Kanye my boy White Lives Matter.

Speaker 1 (15:30):
With his clothing brand, Sean John p did. He was
one of the pioneers of the hip hop artist turn
fashion mogul. So Kanye's recent white Lives Matter T shirt
campaign was bound to come up.

Speaker 15 (15:41):
And I understand white lives do matter, but it's not
that that was our slogan. That wasn't our slogan to
go share with nobody else. And so that's the only message.
We don't have to condemn Kanye or cancel him to say,
surely ain't no time for no other lives mattering right now,
but the tribe. You have to be unapologetically black and

(16:04):
love your people and love your tribe first.

Speaker 1 (16:06):
Immediately after the interview, p Didy reportedly called Kanye to
discourage him from selling the white Lives Matter T shirt.
He then took to Instagram, Kanye is a free thinker,
but the white Lives Matter T shirt I.

Speaker 8 (16:20):
Don't rock with it.

Speaker 1 (16:21):
The pioneering hip hop mogul was trying to shut Kanye up. Well.
Many believed they'd seen this movie before. Two celebrities getting
in a public spat. It was nothing new to most,
but what the general public didn't know at the time
was that within the black entertainment industry, there'd been a
rumor going around about the pioneering hip hop mogul Sean P.

(16:44):
Did Combs owes his early success in the recording industry
to Clive Davis, a powerful, once closeted gay Jewish music executive.
Shortly after entering the scene, many began to believe did
He had a dark side. People have even gone on
record claiming he was involved in the murder of rapper
Tupac Shakur. Diddy has consistently denied those accusations, and no

(17:04):
clear evidence has ever been presented to back up that claim.
But that hasn't been the only cloud hanging over the
hip hop mogul. Some within the rap industry have long
accused P. Diddy of also being gay. As the conspiracy
theory goes p Did he throws parties to get people
into compromising situations and ultimately uses what's captured to control
their future behavior. These rumors have been prevalent among some

(17:28):
black entertainers and have at times bubbled up into the
public sphere.

Speaker 14 (17:31):
Now I've had to turn down fifty million dollars four
times just to protect my integrity and that virgin hole.
I was telling you about it, right because P Diddy
be wanting a body and you gotta tell him no.

Speaker 6 (17:45):
You got to tell him no.

Speaker 12 (17:47):
I did.

Speaker 9 (17:48):
So when you hear the gay rumors about Diddy, you're
not surprised.

Speaker 16 (17:51):
I always tell people this. I've been telling people this.
Don't forget to gangst them. He got a lot of
initious in them. He gainst initious, but don't forge he
hit the gangst the part to deal a gangst, the
and the fit when you see Nick to conduct meself
like that and caring about like that because they're not
worried about doing old time.

Speaker 1 (18:12):
In other words, P Diddy was suspected of being the
Jeffrey Epstein of hip hop, with powerful Jewish executives within
the record industry pulling his strings. It's a wild conspiracy theory,
but one that was given some legs in twenty twenty
four when P Diddy's home was raided by law.

Speaker 17 (18:28):
Enforcement Homeland security agents raiding hip hop moguls Sean Dittycombs,
LA and Miami homes in connection to a federal sex
trafficking investigation. Diddy's been the subject of numerous rape and
sexual assault allegations legend years of wrongdoing.

Speaker 1 (18:48):
The raid was thought to be related to a series
of lawsuits dogging P Diddy, including one where a music
producer named Rodney Jones accused Ditty of being gay and
using parties to record high profile people in compromising positions.

Speaker 6 (19:01):
Jones alleges that Colmes has hidden cameras in every room
of his various homes and that he has secret recordings
of celebrities and associates this compromising footage of every person
that has attended his parties.

Speaker 1 (19:14):
This is all to say that when P did he
reached out to Kanye to encourage him to stop with
the White Lives Matter shenanigans, Ye suspected an ulterior motive.
Shortly after their call, Kanye allegedly texts Ditty stating quote,
I didn't like our convo. I'm selling these teas. Nobody
gets in between me and my money. Ye went on
to accuse Ditty of reaching out to him at the

(19:35):
behest of some unnamed Jewish handlers and dared did he
to come do something illegal to him? When did he
ask for a face to face meeting, Kanye accused him
of being a fed. Ye posted excerpts of the exchange
on Instagram, and the social media platform quickly restricted his account.
The rapper then took to Twitter and lambasted the owner
of Instagram, Mark Zuckerberg, accusing him of wrongly kicking him

(19:57):
off the social media site. Zuckerberg Jewish. But what really
set Kanye off in the wake of his White Lives
Matter campaign was a text he allegedly received from his
physical trainer, a man named Harley Pasternak. The text came
in around the time Ye publicly accused Diddy of being
controlled by Jewish people. The rapper would later read his
trainer's text for the proparazzi.

Speaker 18 (20:18):
This is a trainer, So this shows you the kind
of handlers that are around the superstars of California.

Speaker 4 (20:24):
Right, So it says, I'm going to help you one
of a couple ways.

Speaker 19 (20:29):
First, you and I sit down and have a loving
and open conversation, but you don't use cuss words, and
everything that is discussed is based in fact, and that's
some crazy stuff that down a friend of yours told
you or you saw in a tweet. The second option,
I have you institutionalize again, where they medicate the crap
out of you and you go back to zombie land forever.

Speaker 4 (20:52):
Play date with the kids just won't be the same.

Speaker 5 (20:55):
This is the way a Hollywood trainer was talking to
me to force me.

Speaker 4 (21:00):
To go and like apologize.

Speaker 1 (21:02):
Pastornak did not deny the text. If true, the message
he delivered was extraordinary, and not only because this pastnac
guy was supposed to be his trainer. He may recall
earlier in this series that shortly after Donald Trump won
the White House in twenty sixteen, Kanye was performing in
Sacramento when he stopped the concert and did the unthinkable.

(21:23):
He told the crowd that if he would have voted,
it would have been for Donald Trump.

Speaker 12 (21:30):
Trump. Well.

Speaker 1 (21:31):
Two days later, Ye was reportedly at his trainer, Harley
Pasternick's house. According to yea Pastornak called an ambulance and
Kanye was picked up and admitted into a hospital against
his will. He was reportedly sedated with at least seven
different psychotic medications. News reports claimed he'd gone crazy, a
narrative that has dogged him ever since, but Ye would

(21:53):
eventually tell a different story. He claimed Pastronach was trying
to control his mind. It sounded nuts, like the rantings
of a madman. Kanye might as well have been wearing
a tinfoil hat. But when people began looking into his
trainer's past, they found some interesting information.

Speaker 9 (22:10):
Harley Pasternak, who was not denied writing these texts, once.

Speaker 17 (22:14):
Worked for the Canadian military, where he participated in experiments
that measured the effect of various drugs on the human mind.

Speaker 1 (22:20):
The news gave a whole new meaning to the word trainer,
and Kanye wasn't the only high profile client of Pasternak.
He was the trainer to some of Hollywood's biggest stars,
Kim Kardashian, Lady Gaga, Will Farrell, Al Pacino, Amy Schumer,
Megan Fox, Jack Black, Katy Perry, Nadley Portman, Jonah Hill,
Jimmy Fallon, Halle Berry, Seth Rogen, Ellen Page. The list

(22:43):
goes on and on and on. So the so called
trainer that helped commit Yer in twenty sixteen, right after
he said he liked Trump, that man was now allegedly
threatening to turn the Father afore into his zombie forever
if he didn't shut up. It was a shocking allegation,
and apparently the threat of effectively losing his kids sent
the wrapper over the edge. You see in Yet's mind,

(23:06):
he felt under pressure by one specific group. He did
these alleged overlords, the investor in his ex wife's clothing line,
his manager that worked him to exhaustion, the tech mobile
that booted him from Instagram, the S and L comedian
that taunted him from his wife's bed, and now as trainer.
Each of these people were Jewish, and they were all
negatively impacting his life. So shortly after receiving the text

(23:29):
from Pasternak, Kanye lugged into the social media platform then
known as Twitter and tweeted quote, I'm a bit sleepy tonight,
but when I wake up, I'm going death Cone three
on Jewish people. He continued, The funny thing is I
actually can't be anti Semitic because black people are actually
jew Also, you guys have toyed with me and tried
to blackball any one who ever opposes your agenda. The

(23:51):
tweet was immediately deemed by Twitter as anti semitic.

Speaker 12 (24:01):
He had another controversy for Kanye West, also known as Ya.
He's been locked out of his Twitter account now, the
platform suspending him after an anti semitic tweet. That tweet
said quote, when I wake up, I'm going death con
three on Jewish people.

Speaker 1 (24:18):
The outrage was immediate. The American Jewish Committee, the Anti
Defamation League, the Times of Israel, the Jewish Telegraph Agency
Udit's be Forward, just about every Jewish organization and media outlet,
some of the same exact groups that went after Candas
a few years earlier, all branded Kanye West an anti Semite.
Candace had just come off the White Lives Matter episode

(24:39):
with Kanye a few days earlier, so her proximity to
the rapper forced her to respond.

Speaker 7 (24:43):
When I received a text message, the first one that
asked me, is Kanye West Anti Semitic? And then came
in another text message, another text message, somebody screenshot and
sent me what Kanye West said and goes is this real?

Speaker 2 (24:56):
Is this real?

Speaker 7 (24:57):
My first instinct was to go, what did he actually say? Right,
wasn't to go, oh my gosh, Kanye westage Jewish people.
I know that's not true obviously, because I'm friends with him,
and I am friends with his Jewish friends. My instinct
was to go, what did he say that is being misconstrued?

Speaker 15 (25:14):
Now?

Speaker 7 (25:15):
Why would my instinct be to believe that he was
being taken out of context or misconstrued. Well, maybe because
I'm Canus Owens and that actually happened to me. It
was actually one of the most horrific times throughout my career.

Speaker 1 (25:29):
She was referring to the time Jewish groups branded her
an anti Semite for mischaracterizing comments she made a few
years earlier about Hitler. So she looked at Yay's tweet.

Speaker 7 (25:38):
If you are an honest person, you did not think
this tweet was anti Semitic. You did not think that
he wrote this tweet because he hates or wants to
genocide Jewish people. This is not represent the beginning of
the Holocaust. That's if you're an honest person, you will
admit that.

Speaker 9 (25:53):
Right.

Speaker 7 (25:53):
If you're an honest person, when you read this tweet,
you had no idea what the hell he was talking about.
I had no idea when I read this tweet what
the hell he was talking about. This tweet inspired questions,
not answers. First and foremost, what is death Khan three?
Did he mean death Kan three, which would be a

(26:14):
military defense position, not to an offense, for those of
you that are offended, a military defense position. Is he
tweeting this because he's reading the newsweek headline calling him
an anti Semitic. Is he angry because he can't believe
that he's not free to talk about people in his
life who happen to be Jewish right without being accused

(26:34):
of anti Semitism? Is he saying, I'm not gonna shut up,
and I'm gonna keep tweeting, and I'm gonna keep calling
these people out, referring to his friends that he feels slighted. Boy,
is he talking about Jerry Kushner and Josh Kushner. If
you're a liar, you'll say, I know, I was scared, Cannis,
I actually thought that Kanye West was going to launch
a military strike in Israel. We need to stop this nonsense.

(26:54):
We are smarter than this. Stop telling people to be
emotional when they should demand and answers from Kanye for
what he said.

Speaker 1 (27:03):
Her colleague at The Daily Wire, Ben Shapiro, did not agree.

Speaker 3 (27:06):
I've made my thoughts about Kanye West pretty clear. I
mean what he said is anti Semitic, There's no question
about it. I mean what he said is pure wrote
anti semitism. Somebody else I see he's asking about Candace's
defense of Kanye's anti Semitic remarks. So let me just
say this, Candas and I disagree about it wide variety
of topics. One of the features, not the bugs, of
Daily wireplus is the fact that we openly disagree about

(27:28):
all of this stuff. What she said about Kanye I
radically disagree with. I think that she is dead wrong.
I think that it betrays a lack of understanding about
anti semitism and the scope of anti semitism. But we're
allowed to have those disagreements. That's the way this works.

Speaker 1 (27:43):
Publicly, Ben was sticking by his colleague, but behind the
scenes there was a struggle underway, and it would begin
to put Candace's relationship with The Daily Wire on shaky ground.
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Speaker 2 (29:24):
Welcome back to red Pilled America. So in the midst
of Kanye's deathcon three controversy. Ben Shapiro was publicly sticking
by his colleague, but behind the scenes, there was a
struggle underway. Kanye attended the premiere of Candas's BLM documentary,
but neither Jeremy Boring, Ben Shapiro, or any of the
top Daily Wire hosts made an appearance on the red carpet.

(29:46):
According to Kanye, the Daily Wire had blacklisted him from
their platform. As he explained to podcaster Lex Friedman, they.

Speaker 4 (29:53):
Told Cannis Owens, I couldn't be on the Daily Wire,
like you can't even explain yourself, and we don't care
how you got to that point either, and that's stop.

Speaker 2 (30:07):
A week after the premiere, Ari Emmanuel, perhaps the most
powerful talent agent in Hollywood, effectively called for Kanye to
be blacklisted. Emmanuel challenged Apple, Adidas, Spotify, and Ye's touring
partners to stop working with the hip hop ygon for
his alleged anti Semitic remarks. Ari Emmanuel is Jewish. A
few days later, fashion brand Balenciaga ended its relationship with Ya,

(30:32):
then his talent agent CAAA dropped him. Adida stumped his
Yeezy line. A few days later, the Gap and foot
Locker were soon to follow his attorney cut Ties. TJ
Max told its buyers to avoid Yeezy merchandise. Internet retailer
The Reel Reel said it would no longer carry his products.
Fitness company Peloton announced it would drop his tracks from

(30:54):
their workout music library. His ouster from these corporate entities
demolished Kanye's financial stafle. Forbes ran with the headline billionaire
no more Kanye West, anti Semitism obliterates his net worth
as Adidas cuts ties. It was an all inspiring show
of force. If Ari Emanuel was trying to debunk Kanye's

(31:19):
theory on who was out to get him, he had
a strange way of debunking it. In the wake of
losing his billionaire status, Kanye spoke to Piers Morgan. After
a long, heated exchange, Yay would eventually apologize.

Speaker 4 (31:32):
I will say I'm sorry for the people that I
heard with the deaf con the confusion that I call
I feel like I CAUs hurt and confusion, and I'm
sorry for the families of the people that had nothing
to do with the trauma that I had been through
and that I used my platform where you say hurt

(31:53):
people hurt people, and I was hurt. I want to
say that it's wrong to hold an apology hostage, and
I gotta let go of that and free, you know,
free myself of the trauma and say, look, I'm just
gonna give it all up to God right now, and
say to those families that I heard, you know, I
really want to give you guys a big hug, and

(32:16):
I want to I say I'm sorry for hurting you
in my comments.

Speaker 2 (32:19):
He turned to the proparazzi with the same message.

Speaker 18 (32:22):
The real hate is what's happening on the media, and
the idea of Defcon was to get protected for a
time like this.

Speaker 20 (32:30):
Let's lead with love.

Speaker 6 (32:32):
I have no association to any hate group.

Speaker 18 (32:36):
If any hate happens upon any Jewish person, it is
not associated because I am demanding that everyone walk in love.

Speaker 2 (32:44):
In an apparent attempt to directly explain the context of
his words to the Jewish people, Kanye appeared on the
Lex Friedman podcast. Friedman is a Soviet born computer scientist
of Jewish descent, but throughout the interview, instead of trying
to decide for what frustrations may have led to his death,
cond three tweet, Friedman spent most of the interview, trying

(33:05):
to get ya to apologize.

Speaker 4 (33:07):
Again, Pierce Morgan getting me to apologize and separate Jewish
business people from the families of the Jewish business people,
which I did. Update I did that that already happened,
and the.

Speaker 20 (33:20):
Word was the apology that wasn't really an apology.

Speaker 4 (33:23):
I gave an apology. You said it wasn't good enough.

Speaker 20 (33:25):
Yeah, that's right.

Speaker 4 (33:26):
And how you're telling me, no, I'm not.

Speaker 20 (33:28):
Gonna you don't need to kiss anyone's well, ye're asking
me to kiss to say it was wrong to say
there's no Jewish media. There's no Jewish Uh, there isn't.
There's no control of the media by Jewish engineer. Brother,
if you're an engineer and you're not holding to the truth,
that's not engineering.

Speaker 4 (33:46):
I just described collusion five times in this interview, and
you keep on going back to this is like nineteen
thirty if I talked to any of these business people
one by one, because mind you, I didn't get to
the tweet by and not having a conversation. I had
the conversations beforehand before I got to the tweet. Now
we're gonna take it to the stage, right, And you

(34:08):
saw Aria Manuel do exactly the kind of thing that
I was saying had been done behind closed doors. Now
he's doing it and open doors. No one is looking
to change the problem that led so many people to
that same level of frustration, And I just so happened
to be the one that's not going to back up
on it until this changes. And it just so happens

(34:32):
that that night I was so frustrated after twenty years,
that I had to call it out in one tweet
that now even if I say, hey, Okay, I was
frustrated for these reasons, now, it's not good enough. You've
literally tried to make me reapologize ten times in this meeting.

Speaker 6 (34:52):
Resay this.

Speaker 2 (34:52):
We say that the heat on Kanye continued to spill
over on Candice Owens, so the Daily Wire founders sought
out side media to address the situation.

Speaker 9 (35:02):
Do I agree with everything Candace has said?

Speaker 12 (35:03):
Again?

Speaker 8 (35:04):
No?

Speaker 9 (35:04):
Does Ben agree?

Speaker 3 (35:05):
No?

Speaker 9 (35:05):
I've had some real rows with Candace over the last
fourteen days, probably the biggest disagreements that we've ever had.
But agreeing with Ben Shapiro and agreeing with Jeremy Boring
all the way down to every jot and tittle is
not the job description. Of a host at The Daily Wire.

Speaker 3 (35:20):
My friend Candace Owens is friends with Kanye. She initially
gave a response, candas is great, but she she initially
gave a response that I thought was pretty wrong, both
morally and sort of logically. But we allowed disagreement at
the Daily Wire, even when I think that some of
my colleagues are wrong.

Speaker 2 (35:36):
The founders were finding ways to condemn her statements while
standing behind their talent. But then a few days later,
Candace broke an unwritten rule. She retweeted a Jewish author
that had a history of being critical of Israel. Candace
reposted a message from Max Blumenthal. Blumenthal is a Jewish

(35:59):
anti Zionist and his post was critical of nonprofits tied
to Zionism. Candace reposted the message, adding a caption that
read quote when you disrupt the trauma economy and call
out the not for profits that benefit from it, you
become their next target. The post enraged Ben Shapiro, who
publicly chastised Candace for retweeting Blumenthal, stating that she amplified

(36:23):
the message of a man who.

Speaker 1 (36:24):
Quote spends his life covering for jew haters and stumping
for Israel's destruction.

Speaker 2 (36:29):
Ben added that Candace's act was garbage. Candace's relationship with
her employer had entered a new phase. One of the
founders of The Daily Wire was now publicly shaming her.
Candace's response to Ben was very measured. I don't know
who Max Blumenthal is, but I do know that you
have my number and could have informed me in earnest

(36:50):
real relationships to Trump Twitter theater. Let's set a better
example going forward. A few days later, Candace addressed the
rising temperature on her show.

Speaker 7 (36:59):
With all this going on, and with Adidas pulling out
and saying we want nothing to do with ya, and
the entire world condemning him, a lot of people wonder.

Speaker 3 (37:09):
What he is thinking.

Speaker 12 (37:10):
What is YA thinking?

Speaker 7 (37:11):
How does he respond to losing two billion dollars as
it was estimated in one day.

Speaker 2 (37:17):
At the peak of Kanye's crisis, when the cultural power
centers of the world all at once cut all ties
to the man, Candice gave him a call, and while
in the eye of the storm, she was surprised by
what he had to.

Speaker 7 (37:29):
Say after all of the cancelations. His first sentence to
me was, now I'm finally free. It almost made me cry, right,
It almost made me cry because I realized that I
was so worried for him.

Speaker 9 (37:45):
And yet.

Speaker 3 (37:47):
For Yay in this really bizarre way, he.

Speaker 7 (37:51):
Intentionally blew himself up because he has felt so pressured
within the Hollywood world to be somebody that he's not.

Speaker 2 (38:09):
Because of her close ties with the artist and him
universally being branded as an anti Semite, Candace felt she
had to make something very clear, and.

Speaker 7 (38:17):
So I think it's important for me to stay the obvious.
I of course am not anti Semitic whatsoever. I've never
had an anti Semitic bone in my body. I actually,
before I married my husband, almost married.

Speaker 3 (38:26):
A Jewish man.

Speaker 7 (38:27):
It's not even a thing. I feel stupid even saying that.

Speaker 2 (38:38):
Candace went on to thank Dennis Prager for standing by
her in this tumultuous moment. She was not yet ready
to abandon her friend. You see, Kanye West has a deep, deep, emotional,
even spiritual connection with the Black community. From a young age,
this community has been told by their leaders that they

(38:59):
are victims of system that they have no hope of overcoming. Yet,
even through this NonStop indoctrination, Kanye lifted himself up from
nothing to become a global icon and through his music
he inspired millions upon millions that they could do it too,
through a belief in God and themselves. To ask someone

(39:19):
like Candace, who herself was inspired by his music, to
abandon the man in this moment of crisis was something
that was not going to happen. For the next few weeks,
things appeared to quiet down a bit. It looked as
if the storm was going to pass, But then in
early December twenty twenty two, Kanye made an appearance on
The Alex Jones Show, and in the process dropped a

(39:42):
cultural nuclear bomb.

Speaker 9 (39:44):
That's right, You're not Hitler, You're not a Nazi.

Speaker 1 (39:47):
You don't deserve to be called out and demonized.

Speaker 21 (39:49):
Well, I see good things about Hitler. Also, I love everyone.
I'm done with the classifications. Every human being has something
of value that they brought to the table, especially Hitler.

Speaker 2 (40:02):
A little while later, Kanye's Twitter account published an image
of the Jewish star of David merged with the swastika.
The platform immediately suspended his account. The billionaire global icon
appeared to be on a suicide mission. His outburst was
inexplicable to most, and it would set the stage for
a conversation almost no one wanted to.

Speaker 1 (40:22):
Have coming up on Red Pilled America.

Speaker 7 (40:25):
One of the questions that I have is why do
so many people think I'm going to get killed?

Speaker 2 (40:30):
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