July 13, 2026 • 38 mins
We dive into the latest developments in the court case against Charlie Kirk's alleged killer and examine how new evidence challenges some of the biggest conspiracy theories surrounding the case.
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Speaker 1 (00:03):
This is Red Pilled America. Hey, I'm Patrick Currelci.
Speaker 2 (00:07):
And I'm Adriana Cortez and welcome to Red Pilled America's
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I think this episode is going to blow your mind
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So if it blew my mind away, your minds are
going to be blown away. Unless your mind is bigger
than mine. I'm sure there's and.
Speaker 2 (01:40):
I think most of you probably have a bigger mind,
So let's be honest, and you're definitely much more humble.
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Hope you guys have been well. Hope you guys enjoyed
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your America two fifty. I did I wish that the celebration.
I was hoping it was going to be a little
bit more like grandiose. I don't know if everybody feels
the same way about that. I was expecting more. I was,
you know, excited, and I was filled with pride in
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our country and in our ancestors sacrifices in getting us
here to the United States and keeping us here and
keeping the promise of the United States. But I was
also a little bit kind of underwhelmed with kind of
some of the celebration.
Speaker 4 (03:30):
I would say, I mean I think that that tends
to happen when you know, you have these big things
that are coming out and we think it's going to
be a certain way, Like you know, like New Year's
Eve was supposed to be like the greatest night of
the year ever in it totally right, it never really delivers.
But for me, I have to say that America's two
hundred and fiftieth birthday felt very, very emotional to me,
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and I definitely felt a lot of American pride and
I saw a lot of American pride for people I
didn't expect it from it, And for me, that's really
what I hope happened, is that people start to have
more American pride, and I think it sparked that.
Speaker 2 (04:10):
Again.
Speaker 1 (04:12):
The massive American pride was in the World Cup and
the attendees of the World Cup, and I think that
has been like one of those weird surprises that we've gotten,
because the thing is is you're not seeing that with
the people that are saved, for example, going to the
Canadian events or Canadian World Cup games, or going to
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are going to Mexico and having the same kind of
like you know, epiphany about Mexico exactly. You're not seeing that,
but you are seeing that here in the United States.
And I think it's because so many people have, or at
least the legacy media in each one of these countries,
have spent so much time poo pooing the United States
that these people come here with these preconceived notions of
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how it's going to be and then they experience the
brilliance and the incredible scale of the United States, and
watching that on social media has been a treat, a surprise,
something that I haven't been we weren't expecting, And in
a way, it's kind of underscored the celebration of America
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two fifty. Bummed that the US team got booted so.
Speaker 2 (05:21):
Quickly, you know, we were in the top sixteen.
Speaker 1 (05:24):
Yeah, that's happened before. I think that they were trying
so hard that the US Soccer you know, machine was
trying so hard to hype it, and then the game
comes and they look like a high school team playing
a professional team. How dare you it? Did it? Did?
Speaker 2 (05:39):
I mean, it's just you know, straight up, yeah, they
got schooled that day. But I guess I'm curious to
know is I want to know, fam bam, who are
you rooting for now that USA is out, Like, who's
your team? Drop us a comment?
Speaker 4 (05:50):
I want to know.
Speaker 1 (05:51):
I would love to hear that as well.
Speaker 2 (05:52):
Too, I tell me who your team is?
Speaker 1 (05:54):
Patrick, I was loving Norway because I was just loving
that that the main guy from Norway and his kind
of vibe. I was okay with England winning. I don't
really care who wins. But between let's say who we have.
Now we have France. So France is playing Spain and
you have Argentina playing England.
Speaker 2 (06:14):
That's going to be a good game.
Speaker 1 (06:15):
That's going to be a great game. You know, I
don't have a favorite out of all of these. I'd
be okay with any one of those four winning because
I just feel like there's incredible players on each one
of the teams. There's players on each team. I would
say Spain probably the least because I don't know very
many players on Spain, but I know a major player
on all the other three teams that are you know,
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incredible players. You have Harry, you know Harry Carry Harry
Carey Carey. So in England, you have Messi on Argentina,
and then you have Umbape I think is his name
on France. I'm not going to pronounce his name correctly,
but it's like an mb appe or something like that.
Speaker 2 (06:54):
Guy, I think that's kind of weird. Is that? A
lot of the teams, for example, the Swiss team, the
players didn't look sweetish to me?
Speaker 1 (07:02):
What makes you think that? Are you sorry? Is that
a comment on Helen of Troy and what's your name
of the pizza Neango and Heltroy?
Speaker 4 (07:09):
What's up with that?
Speaker 2 (07:10):
You should have been born in the country.
Speaker 1 (07:13):
That's where I think the world is losing that national
specialness where if you see Japan all the people in
the Japanese team look Japanese. There's specific countries like Argentina.
Argentina they look like Argentines, if that's how if that's
what they're called Argentinian. But you have places like the Sweden,
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you have places like even France to a certain degree,
the United States. It just I guess the United States
is one of the few that you could have like
all these kinds of crazy multiculturalism and it work. But yeah,
you're right, the Swedish didn't look very very Swedish.
Speaker 2 (07:49):
I'm just saying, I don't know how I feel about that.
How do you guys feel about that? For them.
Speaker 1 (07:54):
I've been in I've been loving the World Cup though,
and I think it's I'm looking forward to the final.
I think it's later this week, and I don't have
any predictions as far as I go, because I I
don't really watch it outside.
Speaker 4 (08:04):
Of the world.
Speaker 2 (08:04):
Really, you and your giant brain, you guys, aren're gonna tell.
Speaker 1 (08:07):
If you want me to put my giant brain to
work on it, I will. I don't know who's gonna win,
but I've been really enjoying it because of the love
for the United States. It's been popping out of it.
So we're gonna get into I want to get into
the Tyler Robinson trial a little bit. I want to
talk a little bit about The Odyssey later, and also
a film that's coming out that I think that we
should be supporting Bad Counselors put out by a friend
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I think, you guys, we need to support filmmakers like this,
and I want to get into that a little bit later.
But I want to start with this Lindsey Graham unexpected death.
Speaker 2 (08:40):
Oh sad, the sad news. I mean, I'm not, was
not and have never really been a big fan of
his politically, but I'm certainly sad to hear the news
of his passing. And by the way, he was very young.
Seventy one is very young.
Speaker 1 (08:54):
I think the thing with these kinds of things is
just a shock of them being with you one second
and then the next second they're gone, and they're being
no signs of it. And maybe there's you know, you know,
medical field people out there, medical experts out there that
can say they've looked at him and thought, okay, well,
this guy's you know, is not living a healthy life.
But if you see him the day before, he's in
(09:14):
the Ukraine, he gives a speech after a meeting with
the President of Ukraine and and he is seems, you know,
lucid fine. He called the President that day.
Speaker 2 (09:25):
And President Trump i think said that it may have
been one of his last calls.
Speaker 1 (09:28):
Yeah, it was one of his last calls, and I
think President said he was pushing the Save America Act.
By all accounts, it sounded like he was normal, and
then the next thing, he's dead. Some people there's some.
Speaker 2 (09:41):
Considay speculation that he may have been poisoned or murder.
Speaker 1 (09:44):
There's yeah, until there's there's evidence on that. Yet people
die suddenly, that's what happens. And and so you know,
some people have been saying it's potentially a heart attack
or what have you. I guess we'll find out soon
and see where that goes. But just the the this
this idea that you're here today and gone tomorrow, and
how precious life is, and how you need to remind
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your family and loved ones that you love them and
really each day experience the maximum that you can in life.
And so I think that that is one kind of
key thing about this to it stands out to me.
Another thing that stands out to me about I didn't
I was never a huge fan of Lindsay Grahams. He
always was trying to push amnesty, and he was a
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little bit more of a warhawk than that I'm comfortable with.
But I will say this, Trump loved him, and I
think Trump loved him for many reasons, one of the
reasons being is that he was loyal to Trump in
regards to when he needed Lindsay's vote, Lindsay was there.
Lindsay had a lot of crappy things to say about
him in twenty fifteen and the run up to the election,
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as did many establishment GOP people and also his competitors
in general. But he'd also been there for him on
many occasions. And what I also thought was very interesting
about Lindsay Graham is that I've been seeing some information
floating around about his net worth. And for someone that
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has been in the Senate for as long as he
has the numbers that I've been seeing, Network give me
the number. I want to say, it was like one
point nine million dollars something like that. Well, if it's true, well, I.
Speaker 2 (11:29):
Mean you could have you know, been smart and invested early.
Speaker 1 (11:32):
No, that's not that much. Well, the point I'm trying
to make.
Speaker 2 (11:34):
Is just not that much money compared to somebody that's
been in the set.
Speaker 1 (11:41):
What someone that's been in the Senate for as long
as he has to have only accumulated that amount of money.
I mean, you don't hear a lot about about Lindsay
Graham like you know, cashing in on you know, insider
trading kind of stuff like you do with Nancy Pelosi
and several other you know, long time multiple term cong
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rist men or senator.
Speaker 2 (12:04):
Well that's a good sign. And for the Lindsay I.
Speaker 1 (12:06):
Think that's it's it's an interesting if it turns out
and pans out to be true, I think it's it's
an interesting it's an interesting point. But so yeah, I
say our ip to Lindsay Graham. I feel bad for
people that feel like they have to go out there
and just you know, crap on him because they didn't
like certain policies or what have you. A human died,
a human that has family and and a guy that
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was you know, served the country, and and the president
likes and the President likes him for a reason, I think,
and so I feel like I just want to wish
him and his family or his family the best and
in their time of grieving. So I want to get
into the Tyler Robinson trial. Let's I want to do
that after the break, because there's been some fascinating things
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that have come out of it, some things that have
debunked a lot of the conspiracy theorists out there, and
also kind of how we should be dealing with these
conspiracy theories that are constantly promulgating false information. I want
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Speaker 1 (15:13):
So I want to talk a little bit about the
Tyler Robinson preliminary hearing that just took place. I believe
a judgment is coming in September twenty twenty six, and
basically the reason why they do these preliminary hearings is
to decide on whether the state has enough evidence to
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move forward with a case.
Speaker 2 (15:36):
So the execution has to show probable cause, so.
Speaker 1 (15:39):
They show kind of, you know, a spattering of the
evidence that they have against the defendant that is being
charged in this case, Tyler Robinson. And it's been pretty
fascinating because so much of it has debunked all of
the conspiracy theorists that are out there, including Candice Owens.
Speaker 2 (15:59):
And her kitchen of retards.
Speaker 1 (16:02):
Exactly, and Tucker Carlson for that matter. So I want
to get into a couple of the findings here and
kind of discuss how do we even deal with these
conspiracy theorists that are out there that's just kind of
running with things. So the one thing that stood out
to me, i'd say the most, which was, you know,
kind of surprising, was the judge's reaction to actually watching
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the footage of the assassination. I think he got I'm
not sure what angle he watched, because you don't see
the video itself, you just see his reaction to watching it.
Speaker 2 (16:33):
Yeah, a lot of people are speculating that he saw
the footage that was shot close up okay of Charlie.
I don't know that hasn't been confirmed, but yeah, he
visibly he flinched. And I will say this, when I
saw the footage of Charlie being assassinated, it obviously it
shocked me to my core. Patrick and I watched to
get together and it changed me. Seeing that changed me
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as a person. It was just I think it's one
of the most horrific, if not the most horrific thing
I've actually ever went this tapen live.
Speaker 1 (17:04):
So much of it was and you didn't see it live,
you but you saw the live footage fotage. Yeah, I'd
say the thing that it changed me in so many ways.
And we've talked about this before. It changed me one
just to see someone killed like that. I was really surprised.
I was on a phone with a friend when I
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was watching it, and I just I was to say
that I was grief stricken, it would be an understatement
for a man that I didn't understand, even though personally
it was just like it was shocking in that regard.
It was it changed me in that way to kind
of see someone like that die the way that he did.
That was kind of in the business, same business with
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all of us.
Speaker 2 (17:48):
But I mean it very much feels like, you know,
I always felt like, you know, he's one of us,
He's one of our people.
Speaker 5 (17:53):
He was our people.
Speaker 2 (17:53):
You know. He wasn't our personal friend, and I didn't
always agree with him, but he was one of us,
plain and simple.
Speaker 1 (17:58):
But more than that, I think was the reaction to
his death that changed me more than any thing. And
you expect there to be these kinds of liberal loons,
kind of Antifa crowd that would be out there dancing
on his grave and desecrating his memory and lying about
him and what have you, that comes with every death.
But to see that on the right, to see people
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attacking Erica Kirk, to see them with people that have
Charlie Kirk in their avatar, going after his family, going
after tp USA over just kind of minor hiccups in
a case, or seeming inconsistencies alleged inconsistencies. Seeing these people
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respond to that was that one changed me probably more
than anything, because it really made me think, like, what
are we doing here? What are we doing that? We
we so many of us who that were kind of
behind enemy lines at times in our career and risked
so much, whether it be our careers whatether it be
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our reputations amongst these people, And then to see the
people that are supposed to supposedly quote unquote on our
side attacking the dead, the assassinated person's loved ones. It
just really made me kind of rethink things and think, like,
you know, we need to really kind of do some
soul searching and figure out how we want to move
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forward and how we want to be portrayed in the public,
and how we want to just kind of put ourselves
out there. And there was definitely a pullback at some point.
If this is the result for someone that is so beloved,
that someone that has such an incredible impact on the
dialogue that is out there on the debate, that is
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out there on straight up you know election, you know results,
if this is the response to him and his family
and his loved ones, then what are we doing? And
it really changed me And to see candae own and
to see these people. There was just a point recently
where I'd say a couple months ago, I got a
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response from Tucker Carlson Network that I'm no longer an
annual member. So that reminded me that a year ago
I had signed up for his network and The turn
was so one hundred and eighty because the man, I'm
so disgusted by him, I'm so disgusted by Megan Kelly,
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I'm disgusted by Candice Owen's probably the most. But that
turn happened so quickly. It was a litmus test for
so many people out there. Their response to the death
and the assassination of Charlie Kirk was a litmus test,
and so many people failed. So many people are continuing
to fail, and we're seeing that here with this trial.
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So the prosecutor kind of at one point in this
preliminary trial discussed the surveillance evidence, and this is what
he presented in the court.
Speaker 3 (21:05):
VU has a great surveillance system, and they capture the
defendant coming on to campus at about seven am or
I think about eight am. Okay, it's clearly him. He's
driving his gray Dodge Charger. I should say. He's from
Saint George. So this isn't just a casual passing by
a Utah Valley University. This is a three and a
half hour drive from his home, two hundred and fifty
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plus miles from his home. They captured his car pulling
into the Utah Valley University parking structure. He's out of
the car. He's wearing his favorite Hurley hat, a maroon
T shirt, shorts, and Converse shoes. The same clothing he's
wearing when he turns himself in the next day, clearly him.
There's good facial images and everything. He walks around campus
and he scouts campus out. He then leaves the campus
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UVUS surveillance then captures him return later. He returns on
foot right before the Charlie Kirk event. He's wearing a
disguise of sorts. He's wearing a baseball cap, different baseball
cap pulled low. He's got sunglasses on, a different front shirt,
different pants, but the same Converse shoes. That's all seen
in the surveillance. He's limping because there's a rifle down
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his pants. The surveillance captures this individual again, I should
I don't want to overstate the evidence because the pictures
of his face at this time are not as definitive
as they were earlier because of the sunglasses in the hat.
But it captures his face, captures his appearance, his height,
his build, all consistent with how he looks earlier in
the day and how he looks today. In court, but
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he makes his way to the rooftop, makes his way
to the sniper's perch on the rooftop, takes the shot
and then runs to the northeast, drops off the building,
and runs the northeast of campus into a wooded area
that's all captured on video. Okay, that's the first category
of evidence.
Speaker 1 (22:51):
So there's the evidence of the surveillance evidence that the
prosecutor presented and or at least his description of them.
And this is kind of where you see the conspiracy
theorists really grab on into any kind of place that
they could possibly there could possibly be doubt because surveillance cameras,
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the definition there is not really that high. Typically sometimes
they'll be a little bit pixelated or what have you.
But they map him out the entire time. They see
him go out to the car, They see him come
to the university at first, drive around onto the parking lot,
walk onto campus, you know, wearing a certain kind of outfit,
getting back into his car, leaving, coming back, you know,
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changing in a different outfit. But you'll see him in
you know, where the car goes, see him walking up
through the neighborhood, walking with a limp, but all of
these things. They it looks like the same guy, but
because at some points you don't see his face clearly,
that is what the conspiracy theorists kind of grab onto.
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But then you got a guy like Lance Twiggs, who
was his lover's boyfriend and his room mate, talks about
some of these images and the letter that he got.
But here is first the images that he has seen
of Tyler Robinson or alleged lease of Tyler Robinson on
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UVU and whether he thinks those that is Tyler Robinson
on campus. And I should say that this interview with
Lance Twiggs was taken before, I believe, the preliminary hearing,
and then they presented this interview in the preliminary hearing
in the course of the preliminary hearing.
Speaker 3 (24:36):
Hey, I'm on the FBI's website. You can see that
you arel there at the top. This is a press
release about this event. And here on the screen you
see these there's looks like there's two rows of three images.
Do you recognize the person in these images?
Speaker 6 (24:55):
I wouldn't say with one hundred percent certainty just because
of camera quality, but that looks like him in terms
of the shoes he's wearing, the on glasses. I don't
think i'd specifically seen him wearing that hat, but he
was usually wearing a hat, and then she and so
it definitely, especially the bottom the last two definitely do
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look like.
Speaker 1 (25:17):
Him, all right. So there you have it. There's his
his lover roommate saying that these pictures look like him.
You'll see other pictures where you see the face clearly
and wearing some of the clothes that he would see
in some of the other pictures. So what the conspiracy
theories theorists kind of moved to is old. Then they had,
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you know, multiple people there he's a patsy. They had
people wearing the same clothes as he was wearing. You
even had points where Candice Owens said that Tyler Robinson
was never on UVU campus.
Speaker 5 (25:54):
In fact, according to my source, Tyler has never even
stepped foot on UVU campus.
Speaker 1 (26:03):
Who is Tyler Robinson? What the was he doing there?
Speaker 5 (26:06):
I don't do you think Tyler Robinson was there?
Speaker 1 (26:09):
So she's making this claim and she moves from there,
she says her source tells her that, and then she
moves forward with that as fact on her show multiple times.
Speaker 5 (26:20):
No, it's the lone shooter who had never been on campus,
who climbed the roofs like Spider Man. The piss poor
narrative that you came up with that had kids who
had never been to campuses scaling the rooftops like Spider Man.
Kyler Robinson scaling the rooftops like Spider Man, never been
to the campus, but he somehow knew how to scale
the buildings.
Speaker 2 (26:40):
By the way, I believe that this interview that we're
watching right now, we're playing for you guys. You know
this isn't an old interview.
Speaker 1 (26:46):
You are entirely right on that he's still This was
just within the last two weeks or so. Yeah, that
she was, that she had done this interview.
Speaker 5 (26:55):
Run the theory that he was killed with a pe
peton shape charge. Then they all suddenly start to make
sense why they wouldn't bring the bomb dogs over to
where Charlie died.
Speaker 1 (27:07):
She's claiming there that the microphone on his shirt, pinned
to his shirt was is what killed him potentially, that's
what she's suggesting. So she claims that she couldn't have
he could not have been killed by thirty out six
because it would have left an exit wound. But this
microphone that blew up on his shirt, did not leave,
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didn't have like a hole or have gunpowder like residue
on it or what have you. So her consistency, there's
no consistency in her arguments, and she is going to
be flailing now over the course of the next couple
years really on this. But here's what she does, and
this is the thing that you that she understands and
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knows is that to this conspiracy theory obsessed crowd, they
will not leave their conspiracy theories. She knows that, she
knows that they will suspend their belief of so many
of these evidence, these pieces of evidence that contradict her theories,
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so that she can just continue to keep moving forward
with these conspiracy theories and make it part of her content.
She knows that they will ignore the evidence because the
evidence just keeps coming out. More evidence came out during
this preliminary hearing that kind of debunks this whole. Okay,
this thirty six could not have been the bullet that
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killed him. There is a there. They showed the rounds.
Now you have all these ballistic experts that are coming
forward and saying, okay, that's a soft point, and that
it is designed to basically mushroom and to fragment within
the person or the thing that it's being shot into.
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Of course, you have to completely ignore the fact that
Mlka Junior was shot by a thirty odd six and
that bullet never exited his body. Now, when you point
that out to these conspiracy theorists, they're like, oh, okay, well
that was faked as well. There is no way to
succeed with these conspiracy theorists once they become obsessed with it,
and once they become locked in. You know, I had
(29:17):
recently had a conversation with a friend who I love
I still love, will always love, But we were talking
a little bit about the moon landing and this person
said that they did not believe that we landed on
the Moon. Which is fine. You could have that belief
if you'd like. There's been times I worked in aerospace
(29:38):
where I've thought, well, God, that us going there seems
very improbable. But I think the evidence is beginning to
mount that we had been there, and there's been several
things over the course the last couple of years that
have convinced me that we had gone to the Moon.
Speaker 2 (29:54):
Okay, I feel the same way I was on the fence,
and then I had to look into it some more.
Speaker 1 (29:59):
Yes, the point I'm trying to get here is is
it's okay for you to have that belief. Some people
will say that is the gateway into other, much darker beliefs.
But okay, fine, you can believe that we didn't land
on the Moon. But then I asked this person, Okay,
is there anything any evidence that could be given to
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you that would change your mind on that? And this
person said no. And I said, Okay, what if I
gave you a telescope and it was powerful enough to
see the surface of the Moon and you saw on
the surface of the Moon remnants of our landing expeditions.
And this person said, well, not, that could be ai,
(30:42):
So then you could start to take that further. Okay, Well,
what if you in this hypothetical universe, you could design
a telescope and you could create it so that it's
powerful enough to see the surface of the Moon, and
you put this telescope together and you looked up there
and saw these remnants. Conspiracy theorist will not leave these.
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When you are really obsessed with conspiracy theories and everything
becomes a conspiracy theory, you will not leave those theories.
If there's something strange or big or major happens, they
immediately go to some kind of conspiracy. And I think
this is what we're seeing here with this Tyler Robinson thing.
I think that we are seeing people that can't wrap
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their brain around it, that believe the conspiracy theories are
everywhere in the world and they happen, you know, constantly,
and this is what we're seeing in this case.
Speaker 2 (31:38):
And also what's happening with these people is that they
are they're watching people that they have believed for a
long time are credible sources like a cantis Owens, like
you know, Tucker Carlson, and these people are telling them
exactly what they want to hear, and they're thinking, wow, well,
this person is knowledgeable, you know, they've been in this
game a long time. They do great research. Of course
I'm going to believe them. And if they believe what
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I believe as well, then this is obviously true. This conspiracy.
Speaker 1 (32:04):
Well, they're following this business model that was pioneered and
perfected by Alex Jones. We discussed this in our three
part series Gish Gollop, and this is what you're seeing
play out here. These people see a market to be had,
they are going to feed that market. Candace has been
(32:25):
reportedly has reportedly said that her philosophy is I believe
what the people believe, and that is not a recipe
for a truth teller. And unfortunately, this is the issue
right now that we're seeing with this conspiracy theory world,
is that there is no mechanism to really stop them all.
(32:46):
There is is incentives out there to be conspiracy theorists.
Some of the biggest accounts, the biggest podcasters on the
right are conspiracy theorists to varying degree, whether you be
on the Candace Owens, Tucker Charlson, kind of Ian Carroll
kind of side of the spectrum, or you know, you
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kind of come back down a little bit too like
the DC Durino's and the people like Benny Johnson like
that level. Those guys are pushing conspiracy theories on a
pretty regular basis. Maybe not as bad as candae OANs,
but they're in that realm because it is monetized and
there's an incentive to do it. And so, you know,
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we've over the course of the last couple of years
when we've been covering this, a lot of times people
just tell us to shut up about the Candie Owans
or not talk about Candie Owans.
Speaker 2 (33:37):
Yeah. You know what's interesting to me is that this
audience that's consuming all of this conspiracy theory rhetoric, what
they don't realize is that they're the patsies. They're getting
the wool pulled over their eyes.
Speaker 1 (33:52):
And you have people like Candis Owans now saying that
she literally is calling on the defendant's lawyers to come
and talk to her because she wants to testify on
behalf of Tyler Robinson. She wants to help Tyler Robinson
get off.
Speaker 5 (34:07):
I'm actually surprised Tyler Robinson's lawyer hasn't reached out to me.
It's going on here and by the way, still nobody
but even on Tyler Robinson's defense team, you would think
I would be like number one. They'd reach out to,
maybe like her inbox the tips. I've got the names
the people who said this person lied, here's where it was. No,
(34:27):
they're not interested wake up Tyler Robinson's defense. And I know
it's a lot going on. If you're Tyler Robinson's defense,
you may want to get that text message to anybody.
We should be subpoenating those text messages. If I asked him,
did Tyler Robinson's defense lawyer reach out to you? No,
you are telling me that he hasn't been like automatically
subpoenat into the court case. Well, I wouldn't I testify
for the defense.
Speaker 2 (34:47):
I'm actually so she's insane.
Speaker 1 (34:49):
There you have it, She's insane.
Speaker 2 (34:51):
He's like, I'm so brilliant, I should be testifying in
this court case that I have nothing to do with this.
But I'm an expert. I know everything, so I need
to be a witness.
Speaker 1 (35:00):
Well, then becomes a new conspiracy theory because now you
have it, so where you know, Oh, I have all
this evidence, and now his defense attorney isn't reaching out
to me. So is that their conspiracy theory going there?
It never stops the layer and the onion just keeps
getting whiter and whiter and whiter. Because once her theories
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don't come to fruition, she has to have some kind
of a reason why that's not happening. And all you
have to do is is throw out there, Oh, it's
a conspiracy. I mean, what happened to her Egyptian planes?
Speaker 2 (35:34):
No mention of that in the preliminary hearing by the.
Speaker 1 (35:36):
No mention, complete silence, there's no talk of the Egyptian
planes whatsoever, including with kandaze Owans.
Speaker 2 (35:43):
Yeah, and by the way, that conspiracy theory. Tucker Carlson
signed off on it.
Speaker 1 (35:47):
He co signed on it, saying that he knew it
was factually true, and you're never going to hear an
apology from him on that. You are not because they
have built a audience of retards that do not care
whether they are are right or wrong on these things.
They have in most cases. This is my theory, and
(36:08):
I think there's plenty of data points that back this up.
They are rabidly anti Israel, rabidly anti jew and so
anything that Tucker Carlson and Candace Owens says, because they
are the most prominent critical figures of Israel and the Jews,
as long as they continue down that path, anything that
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they say, these people in that audience will buy into
or back up. And so much of the information that
she puts out there, she claims it to be factual
when it's just a source, that it's one source, or
there's no credible information that backs up that thing. And
I think really the only way to sort of get
(36:50):
back to the point of how do we deal with
these conspiracy theorists. So many people over the course of
the last couple of years have told us to stop
talking about Candace Owens. This is really the only way
to deal with it is to expose her, because there
is no mechanism in place to stop these conspiracy theories
(37:10):
from spreading. They're incentivized by social media. They're monetized by
these hosts, and people love them, people eat them up.
They treat these people like their journalists or their new sources,
that they're factually based, that there are truth obsessed like
we are, which they are not. And so there's no
(37:31):
other real way to deal with it other than to
expose these people constantly. Every time that they come out
with these fake theories. You have to combat it. And
I think this Tyler Robinson preliminary hearing went a long
way in exposing their game. We're going to peel some
people off. Some people are going to start to see
(37:52):
this and they're going to have epiphanies. I can say
this happened to me with Tucker, this happened to me
with Candice Owans. Ian Carroll I always knew that he
was a buffoon, never really paid attention to him. But
those two there was points where I would defend them
or I would kind of consider myself a regular listener
(38:13):
of their content. It came a point to where that
moment changed. Charlie Kirk went a long way in kind
of flipping the switch for me, And I'm hoping that
the more and more these people are exposed, the more
people will start to wake up to their lives and
come back to a truth based journalism and truth based media.
(38:37):
So with that, I want to go onto part two.
I want to discuss a little bit about Hollywood, about
what's going on with the Odyssey and the wokeness that's
happening in Hollywood right now, and also play some excerpts
from an interview that I did with a friend of
the show, Chris Fenton, and his new movie coming out,
Bad Counselor So join us over there at part two.
You're going to want to hear what Hollywood's up to
(38:58):
see there, guys,
This is Red Pilled America. Hey, I'm Patrick Currelci.
Speaker 2 (00:07):
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I think so. I mean every time I put out
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Speaker 2 (01:40):
I think most of you probably have a bigger mind,
So let's be honest, and you're definitely much more humble.
You know. What I do want to say though, before
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kind of explaining our hiatus with fam Boogie. But we
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guys about things that are happening when we have the
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next episode that's coming out. So happy to be back.
Hope you guys have been well. Hope you guys enjoyed
(02:54):
your America two fifty. I did I wish that the celebration.
I was hoping it was going to be a little
bit more like grandiose. I don't know if everybody feels
the same way about that. I was expecting more. I was,
you know, excited, and I was filled with pride in
(03:15):
our country and in our ancestors sacrifices in getting us
here to the United States and keeping us here and
keeping the promise of the United States. But I was
also a little bit kind of underwhelmed with kind of
some of the celebration.
Speaker 4 (03:30):
I would say, I mean I think that that tends
to happen when you know, you have these big things
that are coming out and we think it's going to
be a certain way, Like you know, like New Year's
Eve was supposed to be like the greatest night of
the year ever in it totally right, it never really delivers.
But for me, I have to say that America's two
hundred and fiftieth birthday felt very, very emotional to me,
(03:52):
and I definitely felt a lot of American pride and
I saw a lot of American pride for people I
didn't expect it from it, And for me, that's really
what I hope happened, is that people start to have
more American pride, and I think it sparked that.
Speaker 2 (04:10):
Again.
Speaker 1 (04:12):
The massive American pride was in the World Cup and
the attendees of the World Cup, and I think that
has been like one of those weird surprises that we've gotten,
because the thing is is you're not seeing that with
the people that are saved, for example, going to the
Canadian events or Canadian World Cup games, or going to
(04:34):
are going to Mexico and having the same kind of
like you know, epiphany about Mexico exactly. You're not seeing that,
but you are seeing that here in the United States.
And I think it's because so many people have, or at
least the legacy media in each one of these countries,
have spent so much time poo pooing the United States
that these people come here with these preconceived notions of
(04:57):
how it's going to be and then they experience the
brilliance and the incredible scale of the United States, and
watching that on social media has been a treat, a surprise,
something that I haven't been we weren't expecting, And in
a way, it's kind of underscored the celebration of America
(05:17):
two fifty. Bummed that the US team got booted so.
Speaker 2 (05:21):
Quickly, you know, we were in the top sixteen.
Speaker 1 (05:24):
Yeah, that's happened before. I think that they were trying
so hard that the US Soccer you know, machine was
trying so hard to hype it, and then the game
comes and they look like a high school team playing
a professional team. How dare you it? Did it? Did?
Speaker 2 (05:39):
I mean, it's just you know, straight up, yeah, they
got schooled that day. But I guess I'm curious to
know is I want to know, fam bam, who are
you rooting for now that USA is out, Like, who's
your team? Drop us a comment?
Speaker 4 (05:50):
I want to know.
Speaker 1 (05:51):
I would love to hear that as well.
Speaker 2 (05:52):
Too, I tell me who your team is?
Speaker 1 (05:54):
Patrick, I was loving Norway because I was just loving
that that the main guy from Norway and his kind
of vibe. I was okay with England winning. I don't
really care who wins. But between let's say who we have.
Now we have France. So France is playing Spain and
you have Argentina playing England.
Speaker 2 (06:14):
That's going to be a good game.
Speaker 1 (06:15):
That's going to be a great game. You know, I
don't have a favorite out of all of these. I'd
be okay with any one of those four winning because
I just feel like there's incredible players on each one
of the teams. There's players on each team. I would
say Spain probably the least because I don't know very
many players on Spain, but I know a major player
on all the other three teams that are you know,
(06:36):
incredible players. You have Harry, you know Harry Carry Harry
Carey Carey. So in England, you have Messi on Argentina,
and then you have Umbape I think is his name
on France. I'm not going to pronounce his name correctly,
but it's like an mb appe or something like that.
Speaker 2 (06:54):
Guy, I think that's kind of weird. Is that? A
lot of the teams, for example, the Swiss team, the
players didn't look sweetish to me?
Speaker 1 (07:02):
What makes you think that? Are you sorry? Is that
a comment on Helen of Troy and what's your name
of the pizza Neango and Heltroy?
Speaker 4 (07:09):
What's up with that?
Speaker 2 (07:10):
You should have been born in the country.
Speaker 1 (07:13):
That's where I think the world is losing that national
specialness where if you see Japan all the people in
the Japanese team look Japanese. There's specific countries like Argentina.
Argentina they look like Argentines, if that's how if that's
what they're called Argentinian. But you have places like the Sweden,
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you have places like even France to a certain degree,
the United States. It just I guess the United States
is one of the few that you could have like
all these kinds of crazy multiculturalism and it work. But yeah,
you're right, the Swedish didn't look very very Swedish.
Speaker 2 (07:49):
I'm just saying, I don't know how I feel about that.
How do you guys feel about that? For them.
Speaker 1 (07:54):
I've been in I've been loving the World Cup though,
and I think it's I'm looking forward to the final.
I think it's later this week, and I don't have
any predictions as far as I go, because I I
don't really watch it outside.
Speaker 4 (08:04):
Of the world.
Speaker 2 (08:04):
Really, you and your giant brain, you guys, aren're gonna tell.
Speaker 1 (08:07):
If you want me to put my giant brain to
work on it, I will. I don't know who's gonna win,
but I've been really enjoying it because of the love
for the United States. It's been popping out of it.
So we're gonna get into I want to get into
the Tyler Robinson trial a little bit. I want to
talk a little bit about The Odyssey later, and also
a film that's coming out that I think that we
should be supporting Bad Counselors put out by a friend
(08:28):
of the show, Chris Fenton, coming out July twenty second.
I think, you guys, we need to support filmmakers like this,
and I want to get into that a little bit later.
But I want to start with this Lindsey Graham unexpected death.
Speaker 2 (08:40):
Oh sad, the sad news. I mean, I'm not, was
not and have never really been a big fan of
his politically, but I'm certainly sad to hear the news
of his passing. And by the way, he was very young.
Seventy one is very young.
Speaker 1 (08:54):
I think the thing with these kinds of things is
just a shock of them being with you one second
and then the next second they're gone, and they're being
no signs of it. And maybe there's you know, you know,
medical field people out there, medical experts out there that
can say they've looked at him and thought, okay, well,
this guy's you know, is not living a healthy life.
But if you see him the day before, he's in
(09:14):
the Ukraine, he gives a speech after a meeting with
the President of Ukraine and and he is seems, you know,
lucid fine. He called the President that day.
Speaker 2 (09:25):
And President Trump i think said that it may have
been one of his last calls.
Speaker 1 (09:28):
Yeah, it was one of his last calls, and I
think President said he was pushing the Save America Act.
By all accounts, it sounded like he was normal, and
then the next thing, he's dead. Some people there's some.
Speaker 2 (09:41):
Considay speculation that he may have been poisoned or murder.
Speaker 1 (09:44):
There's yeah, until there's there's evidence on that. Yet people
die suddenly, that's what happens. And and so you know,
some people have been saying it's potentially a heart attack
or what have you. I guess we'll find out soon
and see where that goes. But just the the this
this idea that you're here today and gone tomorrow, and
how precious life is, and how you need to remind
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your family and loved ones that you love them and
really each day experience the maximum that you can in life.
And so I think that that is one kind of
key thing about this to it stands out to me.
Another thing that stands out to me about I didn't
I was never a huge fan of Lindsay Grahams. He
always was trying to push amnesty, and he was a
(10:30):
little bit more of a warhawk than that I'm comfortable with.
But I will say this, Trump loved him, and I
think Trump loved him for many reasons, one of the
reasons being is that he was loyal to Trump in
regards to when he needed Lindsay's vote, Lindsay was there.
Lindsay had a lot of crappy things to say about
him in twenty fifteen and the run up to the election,
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as did many establishment GOP people and also his competitors
in general. But he'd also been there for him on
many occasions. And what I also thought was very interesting
about Lindsay Graham is that I've been seeing some information
floating around about his net worth. And for someone that
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has been in the Senate for as long as he
has the numbers that I've been seeing, Network give me
the number. I want to say, it was like one
point nine million dollars something like that. Well, if it's true, well, I.
Speaker 2 (11:29):
Mean you could have you know, been smart and invested early.
Speaker 1 (11:32):
No, that's not that much. Well, the point I'm trying
to make.
Speaker 2 (11:34):
Is just not that much money compared to somebody that's
been in the set.
Speaker 1 (11:41):
What someone that's been in the Senate for as long
as he has to have only accumulated that amount of money.
I mean, you don't hear a lot about about Lindsay
Graham like you know, cashing in on you know, insider
trading kind of stuff like you do with Nancy Pelosi
and several other you know, long time multiple term cong
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rist men or senator.
Speaker 2 (12:04):
Well that's a good sign. And for the Lindsay I.
Speaker 1 (12:06):
Think that's it's it's an interesting if it turns out
and pans out to be true, I think it's it's
an interesting it's an interesting point. But so yeah, I
say our ip to Lindsay Graham. I feel bad for
people that feel like they have to go out there
and just you know, crap on him because they didn't
like certain policies or what have you. A human died,
a human that has family and and a guy that
(12:29):
was you know, served the country, and and the president
likes and the President likes him for a reason, I think,
and so I feel like I just want to wish
him and his family or his family the best and
in their time of grieving. So I want to get
into the Tyler Robinson trial. Let's I want to do
that after the break, because there's been some fascinating things
(12:51):
that have come out of it, some things that have
debunked a lot of the conspiracy theorists out there, and
also kind of how we should be dealing with these
conspiracy theories that are constantly promulgating false information. I want
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Speaker 1 (15:13):
So I want to talk a little bit about the
Tyler Robinson preliminary hearing that just took place. I believe
a judgment is coming in September twenty twenty six, and
basically the reason why they do these preliminary hearings is
to decide on whether the state has enough evidence to
(15:34):
move forward with a case.
Speaker 2 (15:36):
So the execution has to show probable cause, so.
Speaker 1 (15:39):
They show kind of, you know, a spattering of the
evidence that they have against the defendant that is being
charged in this case, Tyler Robinson. And it's been pretty
fascinating because so much of it has debunked all of
the conspiracy theorists that are out there, including Candice Owens.
Speaker 2 (15:59):
And her kitchen of retards.
Speaker 1 (16:02):
Exactly, and Tucker Carlson for that matter. So I want
to get into a couple of the findings here and
kind of discuss how do we even deal with these
conspiracy theorists that are out there that's just kind of
running with things. So the one thing that stood out
to me, i'd say the most, which was, you know,
kind of surprising, was the judge's reaction to actually watching
(16:24):
the footage of the assassination. I think he got I'm
not sure what angle he watched, because you don't see
the video itself, you just see his reaction to watching it.
Speaker 2 (16:33):
Yeah, a lot of people are speculating that he saw
the footage that was shot close up okay of Charlie.
I don't know that hasn't been confirmed, but yeah, he
visibly he flinched. And I will say this, when I
saw the footage of Charlie being assassinated, it obviously it
shocked me to my core. Patrick and I watched to
get together and it changed me. Seeing that changed me
(16:56):
as a person. It was just I think it's one
of the most horrific, if not the most horrific thing
I've actually ever went this tapen live.
Speaker 1 (17:04):
So much of it was and you didn't see it live,
you but you saw the live footage fotage. Yeah, I'd
say the thing that it changed me in so many ways.
And we've talked about this before. It changed me one
just to see someone killed like that. I was really surprised.
I was on a phone with a friend when I
(17:25):
was watching it, and I just I was to say
that I was grief stricken, it would be an understatement
for a man that I didn't understand, even though personally
it was just like it was shocking in that regard.
It was it changed me in that way to kind
of see someone like that die the way that he did.
That was kind of in the business, same business with
(17:47):
all of us.
Speaker 2 (17:48):
But I mean it very much feels like, you know,
I always felt like, you know, he's one of us,
He's one of our people.
Speaker 5 (17:53):
He was our people.
Speaker 2 (17:53):
You know. He wasn't our personal friend, and I didn't
always agree with him, but he was one of us,
plain and simple.
Speaker 1 (17:58):
But more than that, I think was the reaction to
his death that changed me more than any thing. And
you expect there to be these kinds of liberal loons,
kind of Antifa crowd that would be out there dancing
on his grave and desecrating his memory and lying about
him and what have you, that comes with every death.
But to see that on the right, to see people
(18:22):
attacking Erica Kirk, to see them with people that have
Charlie Kirk in their avatar, going after his family, going
after tp USA over just kind of minor hiccups in
a case, or seeming inconsistencies alleged inconsistencies. Seeing these people
(18:45):
respond to that was that one changed me probably more
than anything, because it really made me think, like, what
are we doing here? What are we doing that? We
we so many of us who that were kind of
behind enemy lines at times in our career and risked
so much, whether it be our careers whatether it be
(19:06):
our reputations amongst these people, And then to see the
people that are supposed to supposedly quote unquote on our
side attacking the dead, the assassinated person's loved ones. It
just really made me kind of rethink things and think, like,
you know, we need to really kind of do some
soul searching and figure out how we want to move
(19:27):
forward and how we want to be portrayed in the public,
and how we want to just kind of put ourselves
out there. And there was definitely a pullback at some point.
If this is the result for someone that is so beloved,
that someone that has such an incredible impact on the
dialogue that is out there on the debate, that is
(19:49):
out there on straight up you know election, you know results,
if this is the response to him and his family
and his loved ones, then what are we doing? And
it really changed me And to see candae own and
to see these people. There was just a point recently
where I'd say a couple months ago, I got a
(20:10):
response from Tucker Carlson Network that I'm no longer an
annual member. So that reminded me that a year ago
I had signed up for his network and The turn
was so one hundred and eighty because the man, I'm
so disgusted by him, I'm so disgusted by Megan Kelly,
(20:31):
I'm disgusted by Candice Owen's probably the most. But that
turn happened so quickly. It was a litmus test for
so many people out there. Their response to the death
and the assassination of Charlie Kirk was a litmus test,
and so many people failed. So many people are continuing
to fail, and we're seeing that here with this trial.
(20:54):
So the prosecutor kind of at one point in this
preliminary trial discussed the surveillance evidence, and this is what
he presented in the court.
Speaker 3 (21:05):
VU has a great surveillance system, and they capture the
defendant coming on to campus at about seven am or
I think about eight am. Okay, it's clearly him. He's
driving his gray Dodge Charger. I should say. He's from
Saint George. So this isn't just a casual passing by
a Utah Valley University. This is a three and a
half hour drive from his home, two hundred and fifty
(21:26):
plus miles from his home. They captured his car pulling
into the Utah Valley University parking structure. He's out of
the car. He's wearing his favorite Hurley hat, a maroon
T shirt, shorts, and Converse shoes. The same clothing he's
wearing when he turns himself in the next day, clearly him.
There's good facial images and everything. He walks around campus
and he scouts campus out. He then leaves the campus
(21:49):
UVUS surveillance then captures him return later. He returns on
foot right before the Charlie Kirk event. He's wearing a
disguise of sorts. He's wearing a baseball cap, different baseball
cap pulled low. He's got sunglasses on, a different front shirt,
different pants, but the same Converse shoes. That's all seen
in the surveillance. He's limping because there's a rifle down
(22:10):
his pants. The surveillance captures this individual again, I should
I don't want to overstate the evidence because the pictures
of his face at this time are not as definitive
as they were earlier because of the sunglasses in the hat.
But it captures his face, captures his appearance, his height,
his build, all consistent with how he looks earlier in
the day and how he looks today. In court, but
(22:32):
he makes his way to the rooftop, makes his way
to the sniper's perch on the rooftop, takes the shot
and then runs to the northeast, drops off the building,
and runs the northeast of campus into a wooded area
that's all captured on video. Okay, that's the first category
of evidence.
Speaker 1 (22:51):
So there's the evidence of the surveillance evidence that the
prosecutor presented and or at least his description of them.
And this is kind of where you see the conspiracy
theorists really grab on into any kind of place that
they could possibly there could possibly be doubt because surveillance cameras,
(23:12):
the definition there is not really that high. Typically sometimes
they'll be a little bit pixelated or what have you.
But they map him out the entire time. They see
him go out to the car, They see him come
to the university at first, drive around onto the parking lot,
walk onto campus, you know, wearing a certain kind of outfit,
getting back into his car, leaving, coming back, you know,
(23:35):
changing in a different outfit. But you'll see him in
you know, where the car goes, see him walking up
through the neighborhood, walking with a limp, but all of
these things. They it looks like the same guy, but
because at some points you don't see his face clearly,
that is what the conspiracy theorists kind of grab onto.
(23:56):
But then you got a guy like Lance Twiggs, who
was his lover's boyfriend and his room mate, talks about
some of these images and the letter that he got.
But here is first the images that he has seen
of Tyler Robinson or alleged lease of Tyler Robinson on
(24:16):
UVU and whether he thinks those that is Tyler Robinson
on campus. And I should say that this interview with
Lance Twiggs was taken before, I believe, the preliminary hearing,
and then they presented this interview in the preliminary hearing
in the course of the preliminary hearing.
Speaker 3 (24:36):
Hey, I'm on the FBI's website. You can see that
you arel there at the top. This is a press
release about this event. And here on the screen you
see these there's looks like there's two rows of three images.
Do you recognize the person in these images?
Speaker 6 (24:55):
I wouldn't say with one hundred percent certainty just because
of camera quality, but that looks like him in terms
of the shoes he's wearing, the on glasses. I don't
think i'd specifically seen him wearing that hat, but he
was usually wearing a hat, and then she and so
it definitely, especially the bottom the last two definitely do
(25:16):
look like.
Speaker 1 (25:17):
Him, all right. So there you have it. There's his
his lover roommate saying that these pictures look like him.
You'll see other pictures where you see the face clearly
and wearing some of the clothes that he would see
in some of the other pictures. So what the conspiracy
theories theorists kind of moved to is old. Then they had,
(25:38):
you know, multiple people there he's a patsy. They had
people wearing the same clothes as he was wearing. You
even had points where Candice Owens said that Tyler Robinson
was never on UVU campus.
Speaker 5 (25:54):
In fact, according to my source, Tyler has never even
stepped foot on UVU campus.
Speaker 1 (26:03):
Who is Tyler Robinson? What the was he doing there?
Speaker 5 (26:06):
I don't do you think Tyler Robinson was there?
Speaker 1 (26:09):
So she's making this claim and she moves from there,
she says her source tells her that, and then she
moves forward with that as fact on her show multiple times.
Speaker 5 (26:20):
No, it's the lone shooter who had never been on campus,
who climbed the roofs like Spider Man. The piss poor
narrative that you came up with that had kids who
had never been to campuses scaling the rooftops like Spider Man.
Kyler Robinson scaling the rooftops like Spider Man, never been
to the campus, but he somehow knew how to scale
the buildings.
Speaker 2 (26:40):
By the way, I believe that this interview that we're
watching right now, we're playing for you guys. You know
this isn't an old interview.
Speaker 1 (26:46):
You are entirely right on that he's still This was
just within the last two weeks or so. Yeah, that
she was, that she had done this interview.
Speaker 5 (26:55):
Run the theory that he was killed with a pe
peton shape charge. Then they all suddenly start to make
sense why they wouldn't bring the bomb dogs over to
where Charlie died.
Speaker 1 (27:07):
She's claiming there that the microphone on his shirt, pinned
to his shirt was is what killed him potentially, that's
what she's suggesting. So she claims that she couldn't have
he could not have been killed by thirty out six
because it would have left an exit wound. But this
microphone that blew up on his shirt, did not leave,
(27:30):
didn't have like a hole or have gunpowder like residue
on it or what have you. So her consistency, there's
no consistency in her arguments, and she is going to
be flailing now over the course of the next couple
years really on this. But here's what she does, and
this is the thing that you that she understands and
(27:51):
knows is that to this conspiracy theory obsessed crowd, they
will not leave their conspiracy theories. She knows that, she
knows that they will suspend their belief of so many
of these evidence, these pieces of evidence that contradict her theories,
(28:13):
so that she can just continue to keep moving forward
with these conspiracy theories and make it part of her content.
She knows that they will ignore the evidence because the
evidence just keeps coming out. More evidence came out during
this preliminary hearing that kind of debunks this whole. Okay,
this thirty six could not have been the bullet that
(28:35):
killed him. There is a there. They showed the rounds.
Now you have all these ballistic experts that are coming
forward and saying, okay, that's a soft point, and that
it is designed to basically mushroom and to fragment within
the person or the thing that it's being shot into.
(28:55):
Of course, you have to completely ignore the fact that
Mlka Junior was shot by a thirty odd six and
that bullet never exited his body. Now, when you point
that out to these conspiracy theorists, they're like, oh, okay, well
that was faked as well. There is no way to
succeed with these conspiracy theorists once they become obsessed with it,
and once they become locked in. You know, I had
(29:17):
recently had a conversation with a friend who I love
I still love, will always love, But we were talking
a little bit about the moon landing and this person
said that they did not believe that we landed on
the Moon. Which is fine. You could have that belief
if you'd like. There's been times I worked in aerospace
(29:38):
where I've thought, well, God, that us going there seems
very improbable. But I think the evidence is beginning to
mount that we had been there, and there's been several
things over the course the last couple of years that
have convinced me that we had gone to the Moon.
Speaker 2 (29:54):
Okay, I feel the same way I was on the fence,
and then I had to look into it some more.
Speaker 1 (29:59):
Yes, the point I'm trying to get here is is
it's okay for you to have that belief. Some people
will say that is the gateway into other, much darker beliefs.
But okay, fine, you can believe that we didn't land
on the Moon. But then I asked this person, Okay,
is there anything any evidence that could be given to
(30:21):
you that would change your mind on that? And this
person said no. And I said, Okay, what if I
gave you a telescope and it was powerful enough to
see the surface of the Moon and you saw on
the surface of the Moon remnants of our landing expeditions.
And this person said, well, not, that could be ai,
(30:42):
So then you could start to take that further. Okay, Well,
what if you in this hypothetical universe, you could design
a telescope and you could create it so that it's
powerful enough to see the surface of the Moon, and
you put this telescope together and you looked up there
and saw these remnants. Conspiracy theorist will not leave these.
(31:06):
When you are really obsessed with conspiracy theories and everything
becomes a conspiracy theory, you will not leave those theories.
If there's something strange or big or major happens, they
immediately go to some kind of conspiracy. And I think
this is what we're seeing here with this Tyler Robinson thing.
I think that we are seeing people that can't wrap
(31:28):
their brain around it, that believe the conspiracy theories are
everywhere in the world and they happen, you know, constantly,
and this is what we're seeing in this case.
Speaker 2 (31:38):
And also what's happening with these people is that they
are they're watching people that they have believed for a
long time are credible sources like a cantis Owens, like
you know, Tucker Carlson, and these people are telling them
exactly what they want to hear, and they're thinking, wow, well,
this person is knowledgeable, you know, they've been in this
game a long time. They do great research. Of course
I'm going to believe them. And if they believe what
(32:00):
I believe as well, then this is obviously true. This conspiracy.
Speaker 1 (32:04):
Well, they're following this business model that was pioneered and
perfected by Alex Jones. We discussed this in our three
part series Gish Gollop, and this is what you're seeing
play out here. These people see a market to be had,
they are going to feed that market. Candace has been
(32:25):
reportedly has reportedly said that her philosophy is I believe
what the people believe, and that is not a recipe
for a truth teller. And unfortunately, this is the issue
right now that we're seeing with this conspiracy theory world,
is that there is no mechanism to really stop them all.
(32:46):
There is is incentives out there to be conspiracy theorists.
Some of the biggest accounts, the biggest podcasters on the
right are conspiracy theorists to varying degree, whether you be
on the Candace Owens, Tucker Charlson, kind of Ian Carroll
kind of side of the spectrum, or you know, you
(33:07):
kind of come back down a little bit too like
the DC Durino's and the people like Benny Johnson like
that level. Those guys are pushing conspiracy theories on a
pretty regular basis. Maybe not as bad as candae OANs,
but they're in that realm because it is monetized and
there's an incentive to do it. And so, you know,
(33:29):
we've over the course of the last couple of years
when we've been covering this, a lot of times people
just tell us to shut up about the Candie Owans
or not talk about Candie Owans.
Speaker 2 (33:37):
Yeah. You know what's interesting to me is that this
audience that's consuming all of this conspiracy theory rhetoric, what
they don't realize is that they're the patsies. They're getting
the wool pulled over their eyes.
Speaker 1 (33:52):
And you have people like Candis Owans now saying that
she literally is calling on the defendant's lawyers to come
and talk to her because she wants to testify on
behalf of Tyler Robinson. She wants to help Tyler Robinson
get off.
Speaker 5 (34:07):
I'm actually surprised Tyler Robinson's lawyer hasn't reached out to me.
It's going on here and by the way, still nobody
but even on Tyler Robinson's defense team, you would think
I would be like number one. They'd reach out to,
maybe like her inbox the tips. I've got the names
the people who said this person lied, here's where it was. No,
(34:27):
they're not interested wake up Tyler Robinson's defense. And I know
it's a lot going on. If you're Tyler Robinson's defense,
you may want to get that text message to anybody.
We should be subpoenating those text messages. If I asked him,
did Tyler Robinson's defense lawyer reach out to you? No,
you are telling me that he hasn't been like automatically
subpoenat into the court case. Well, I wouldn't I testify
for the defense.
Speaker 2 (34:47):
I'm actually so she's insane.
Speaker 1 (34:49):
There you have it, She's insane.
Speaker 2 (34:51):
He's like, I'm so brilliant, I should be testifying in
this court case that I have nothing to do with this.
But I'm an expert. I know everything, so I need
to be a witness.
Speaker 1 (35:00):
Well, then becomes a new conspiracy theory because now you
have it, so where you know, Oh, I have all
this evidence, and now his defense attorney isn't reaching out
to me. So is that their conspiracy theory going there?
It never stops the layer and the onion just keeps
getting whiter and whiter and whiter. Because once her theories
(35:21):
don't come to fruition, she has to have some kind
of a reason why that's not happening. And all you
have to do is is throw out there, Oh, it's
a conspiracy. I mean, what happened to her Egyptian planes?
Speaker 2 (35:34):
No mention of that in the preliminary hearing by the.
Speaker 1 (35:36):
No mention, complete silence, there's no talk of the Egyptian
planes whatsoever, including with kandaze Owans.
Speaker 2 (35:43):
Yeah, and by the way, that conspiracy theory. Tucker Carlson
signed off on it.
Speaker 1 (35:47):
He co signed on it, saying that he knew it
was factually true, and you're never going to hear an
apology from him on that. You are not because they
have built a audience of retards that do not care
whether they are are right or wrong on these things.
They have in most cases. This is my theory, and
(36:08):
I think there's plenty of data points that back this up.
They are rabidly anti Israel, rabidly anti jew and so
anything that Tucker Carlson and Candace Owens says, because they
are the most prominent critical figures of Israel and the Jews,
as long as they continue down that path, anything that
(36:29):
they say, these people in that audience will buy into
or back up. And so much of the information that
she puts out there, she claims it to be factual
when it's just a source, that it's one source, or
there's no credible information that backs up that thing. And
I think really the only way to sort of get
(36:50):
back to the point of how do we deal with
these conspiracy theorists. So many people over the course of
the last couple of years have told us to stop
talking about Candace Owens. This is really the only way
to deal with it is to expose her, because there
is no mechanism in place to stop these conspiracy theories
(37:10):
from spreading. They're incentivized by social media. They're monetized by
these hosts, and people love them, people eat them up.
They treat these people like their journalists or their new sources,
that they're factually based, that there are truth obsessed like
we are, which they are not. And so there's no
(37:31):
other real way to deal with it other than to
expose these people constantly. Every time that they come out
with these fake theories. You have to combat it. And
I think this Tyler Robinson preliminary hearing went a long
way in exposing their game. We're going to peel some
people off. Some people are going to start to see
(37:52):
this and they're going to have epiphanies. I can say
this happened to me with Tucker, this happened to me
with Candice Owans. Ian Carroll I always knew that he
was a buffoon, never really paid attention to him. But
those two there was points where I would defend them
or I would kind of consider myself a regular listener
(38:13):
of their content. It came a point to where that
moment changed. Charlie Kirk went a long way in kind
of flipping the switch for me, And I'm hoping that
the more and more these people are exposed, the more
people will start to wake up to their lives and
come back to a truth based journalism and truth based media.
(38:37):
So with that, I want to go onto part two.
I want to discuss a little bit about Hollywood, about
what's going on with the Odyssey and the wokeness that's
happening in Hollywood right now, and also play some excerpts
from an interview that I did with a friend of
the show, Chris Fenton, and his new movie coming out,
Bad Counselor So join us over there at part two.
You're going to want to hear what Hollywood's up to
(38:58):
see there, guys,
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Adryana Cortez
Patrick Courrielche
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