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With the news that Laura Loomer potentially had a hand in the deportation of Milo, we thought we'd revisit our story on her cancelling.
Why don’t conservative leaders protect their own? To find the answer, we follow the rise of a one-of-a-kind journalist, Laura Loomer, and how her work reveals a growing fracture in the conservative movement.
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January 25th, 2019. Our old.
Speaker 3 (01:00):
Buddies at National Review were among the first to pile
on these kids. What would make a bunch of people
on our side want to destroy teenagers?
Speaker 1 (01:12):
The attack on the Catholic Covington teenagers has reopened an
old wound, one that has been lingering for years. Conservative
elites seem to love throwing middle America under the bus.
Speaker 4 (01:22):
Look, to be totally honest, if things are so bad,
as you say, with the white working class, don't you
want to get new Americans in?
Speaker 3 (01:28):
The wall has always been a con for Donald Trump's credulous, rube,
ten-toothed base.
Speaker 1 (01:35):
Liberal elites defend their kind. Conservatives, not so much. But why?
Speaker 5 (01:39):
Why?
Speaker 1 (01:40):
Why don't conservative elites protect their own? I'm Patrick Karelchi.
Speaker 2 (01:48):
And I'm Adriana Cortez.
Speaker 1 (01:50):
And this is Red Pilled America, a storytelling show.
Speaker 2 (01:54):
This is not another talk show covering the day's news.
We're all about telling stories.
Speaker 1 (01:59):
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Speaker 2 (02:02):
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and we promise only one thing. The truth. Welcome to
Red Pilled America. Some conservatives have been throwing Trump supporters
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under the bus for years now. But their recent knee-jerk
attack on the Covington teenagers has reopened the wound and
has some people wondering, why don't our conservative elites protect
their base? To find the answer, we follow the rise
of a one-of-a-kind journalist and how her work reveals a
growing fracture in the conservative movement. Laura Loomer is an
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outspoken journalist, but she wasn't brought up in a media epicenter.
Speaker 6 (02:57):
I grew up in Tucson, Arizona.
Speaker 1 (03:00):
Her parents instilled something in her from a young age
that has stuck with her to this day.
Speaker 5 (03:04):
My parents were They're not hyper-political people, but we watched
the news, and.
Speaker 6 (03:10):
They made an effort, of course, to highlight.
Speaker 5 (03:14):
The importance of watching the news and knowing what's going on.
Speaker 6 (03:17):
So from a very young age, I always knew what
was going on.
Speaker 1 (03:20):
When most of us were introduced to video games or
new cartoons, Laura was introduced to an event that would
shape the rest of her life.
Speaker 5 (03:27):
And I had always found Islam to be interesting, and
from a young age, I was 8 years old when
9-11 happened.
Speaker 6 (03:33):
And my parents.
Speaker 5 (03:34):
You know, they were very outspoken when I was growing
up about, like, the war on terror. And I remember
they bought me the Iraqi most wanted playing cards.
Speaker 1 (03:45):
Laura's own vocal nature became evident at a young age.
Speaker 6 (03:48):
When I was a kid, I didn't have, like, a
lot of friends.
Speaker 5 (03:50):
I just kind of, I wouldn't say that I was
a loner, but I just kind of, like, stuck to myself.
Speaker 6 (03:55):
And I was always very outspoken, but I ended up
getting in a lot of trouble growing up in school
for being outspoken, right?
Speaker 1 (04:02):
Laura's home life became a challenge. her parents divorced, the
family became a bit dysfunctional.
Speaker 5 (04:08):
Because of the circumstances, my dad ended up sending me
and one of my other brothers to boarding school. And
so I didn't have like an easy, smooth, you know, fun,
enjoyable childhood, but I decided to make the best of it.
And I kind of had to really mature from a
very young age. So pretty much from the age of 12,
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I've been, you know, on my own kind of, living
life as an adult because I went to boarding school
from age 12 till the time I was 18.
Speaker 1 (04:40):
When it came time for college, Laura had a specific
kind of school she wanted to attend. That didn't end
up panning out.
Speaker 5 (04:47):
Yeah, so when I finished boarding school, I actually decided
to go to Mount Holyoke. And it was interesting because
I wanted to go to Dartmouth and I remember I
was like really devastated because I got waitlisted. And when
I got waitlisted, I, you know, I felt like I
felt like a failure and I had thought that I
was going to go to Dartmouth, right?
Speaker 6 (05:08):
I just kind of like had this fantasy in my
head that I was going to go to an Ivy
League school. And I didn't get in.
Speaker 5 (05:14):
So I just went to Mount Holyoke, which is like
a women's college in Massachusetts. And I only went there because,
you know, it's known for being, you know, an elite university,
an elite college. And I thought, well, I need to
go to a school that has a fancy name if
I'm going to be successful, right? Well, anyway, I get
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to Mount Holyoke and I absolutely hated it. I did
one semester there and my grades were fine. I had
like straight A's.
Speaker 6 (05:51):
That was no problem. But the people there were just insufferable.
Speaker 5 (05:54):
I mean, it was just, I was surrounded by vegan
militant feminazis who didn't want to accept the fact that,
you know, I was a conservative.
Speaker 6 (06:03):
They could not handle that.
Speaker 1 (06:05):
So Laura transferred out of the school after just one
semester and got a scholarship to Berry University in Miami, Florida.
Speaker 6 (06:11):
It was a.
Speaker 5 (06:12):
Smaller school, and I thought, well, you know, this is fine.
I guess I don't really need to go to a
school that has an elite name.
Speaker 6 (06:19):
I'm just going to, you know, work and go to school.
Speaker 1 (06:22):
Laura initially thought she was destined to go into medicine.
Her father was a doctor.
Speaker 6 (06:26):
And it's kind of funny.
Speaker 7 (06:27):
You know, my dad's a doctor, and I thought, I
want to go to medical school.
Speaker 5 (06:30):
But I have a really hard time with math, and
so for me... you know, with math classes and all
of these high level courses like calculus and physics, it's
very hard for me because growing up, I kind of
had this like, I guess I'd call it like a
learning disability when it comes to math. And so I
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was always behind a year in my math classes. And
when I got to college, I realized, well, I'm not
going to be doing very.
Speaker 6 (06:59):
Well in medical school.
Speaker 5 (07:01):
I was able to get a 4.0 and have very
good grades, but I realized I'm not going to really
be able to go to medical school because I don't
know how I'd pass all these classes.
Speaker 6 (07:10):
Like, it's going to be overwhelming.
Speaker 7 (07:12):
So I just decided, like, because I'm not very good at.
Speaker 6 (07:14):
Math, that I wouldn't have a career in medicine.
Speaker 7 (07:17):
And that's when I decided that I wanted to do
broadcast journalism.
Speaker 1 (07:21):
So she majored in broadcast journalism and political science. Laura
thought of herself as political by high school, but because
she'd attended a boarding school on a ranch in the
middle of nowheresville, she wasn't really able to explore her interest.
That was about to change.
Speaker 7 (07:38):
So when I got to college, I became more political.
Speaker 5 (07:42):
And it wasn't until I really went to school in
Miami that I joined College Republicans and started helping out
with the Republican Party of Florida.
Speaker 6 (07:49):
And so everything kind.
Speaker 5 (07:51):
Of began for me when I was in college, even
though I was always interested in politics and media growing up.
Speaker 1 (07:59):
She began to see an opportunity to bring these two
worlds together while attending an event at school.
Speaker 5 (08:04):
Yeah. So when I was in college at Berry University,
what happened was I was president of.
Speaker 6 (08:10):
The College Republicans.
Speaker 5 (08:11):
This was 9-11 of 2014, I believe.
Speaker 7 (08:17):
And what happened was the university decided that they were.
Speaker 6 (08:20):
Going to have an interfaith 9-11 memorial service.
Speaker 7 (08:24):
And one of my professors said, all right, we're going
to go to the ceremony today.
Speaker 6 (08:27):
And, you know, it's mandatory.
Speaker 5 (08:29):
So I go and I had no problem going, of course.
But then when I get there, they pass out these pamphlets.
Speaker 6 (08:34):
And if you are in an interfaith ceremony.
Speaker 5 (08:36):
Well, you would expect there to be multiple religious groups represented, right?
Speaker 6 (08:41):
And this was a Catholic school.
Speaker 5 (08:42):
I mean, I'm Jewish, but I went to a Catholic
school because I got a really good scholarship. And when
I got there, I looked at the pamphlet, and it
was two pages long, and the first page and a
half was dedicated to Islam. And they literally opened up
the 9-11 memorial service by allowing an imam to chant
Allah Hu Akbar.
Speaker 7 (09:01):
And I was just sitting there thinking to myself, wow,
this is absolutely.
Speaker 6 (09:04):
Absurd, right?
Speaker 1 (09:05):
So Laura decided to write about the event.
Speaker 5 (09:08):
And so I ended up posting a really big Facebook
post about this and it ended up going viral. And
what happened is it got picked up by Breitbart and
Pamela Geller and lots of different news organizations and people
started to bombard my university with messages.
Speaker 1 (09:21):
It wasn't long before she got called in.
Speaker 5 (09:24):
When the university called me into the administrator's office and
threatened to kick me out of school, I kept on
trying to talk to the media about They also told
me that I had to go see psychological services because
they said that my views on Islam were not normal, right?
Because I said like, well, Allahu Akbar is obviously what
the 9-11 hijackers probably said right before they flew the
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planes into the tower.
Speaker 6 (09:49):
And it's highly inappropriate. And they didn't want to accept this.
Speaker 1 (09:51):
Here Laura was, barely in her 20s, and she'd already
got a taste of a story going viral. Laura learned
she had a powerful voice. and she was just getting started.
As a result of the post going viral, Laura was
invited to a political conference.
Speaker 6 (10:07):
And I ended up meeting James O'Keefe there.
Speaker 1 (10:09):
James O'Keefe is an investigative journalist with an independent outfit
called Project Veritas.
Speaker 5 (10:15):
And that was the first time I met O'Keefe, and
of course I was a fan of his, and I
told him, oh my god, you need to hire me.
Speaker 6 (10:20):
You know, I kind of ambushed O'Keefe and said, you
have to hire me. I mean, you need someone to go.
Speaker 5 (10:24):
Undercover in the Hillary Clinton campaign for the election cycle.
And I never, I didn't hear back from him for
a while. And then three months later, he gave me
a call and wanted to fly me out to New
York and flew me.
Speaker 6 (10:37):
Out the next day.
Speaker 1 (10:38):
She began working for Project Veritas while still finishing college.
O'Keefe had a way of testing Laura.
Speaker 6 (10:44):
For my very first exercise with O'Keefe.
Speaker 5 (10:47):
They gave me a camera and they told me to
go to the Black Lives Matter rally.
Speaker 6 (10:51):
And that's what they did with people back then, right?
Speaker 5 (10:53):
They would give them a camera and test them out
to see if they're even capable of doing undercover work.
Speaker 1 (11:04):
So she went to the rally and what she captured
on that first assignment was the daughter of Eric Garner,
a black man who tragically died from a police chokehold
during an arrest. She captured that deceased man's daughter, labeling
Al Sharpton as someone in the civil rights movement purely
for the money.
Speaker 5 (11:20):
So what, you think Al Sharpton is.
Speaker 6 (11:25):
Kind of like a crook in a sense?
Speaker 5 (11:27):
Like you think he's like, that is money with you.
Speaker 1 (11:31):
The story landed on the front page of the New
York Post. Laura was on her way.
Speaker 5 (11:36):
And it was at that moment that Project Veritas told
me that they wanted me to work with them. like full-time,
and I was still a college student at this time.
So I quit my job working for WSBN, which was
the Fox affiliate news station in Miami, Florida. And I
started going back and forth between Miami and New York
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because I was still in college.
Speaker 1 (11:59):
Laura quickly came up with her next media hit, an
investigation to expose the PC culture of colleges. At the time,
a story was going viral in conservative media. An Obama
State Department spokeswoman had an interesting suggestion on how to
stop Islamic terrorist attacks. She suggested we give them job opportunities.
Speaker 8 (12:20):
We cannot win this war by killing them. We cannot
kill our way out of this war. We need in
the longer term, medium and longer term, to go after
the root causes that leads people to join these groups,
whether it's lack of opportunity for jobs.
Speaker 9 (12:33):
We're not going to be able to stop that in
our lifetime or 50 lifetimes.
Speaker 10 (12:35):
There's always going to be poor people.
Speaker 9 (12:37):
There's always going to be poor Muslims.
Speaker 11 (12:39):
And as long as there are poor Muslims.
Speaker 10 (12:40):
The trumpets blow and they'll join.
Speaker 3 (12:42):
We can't stop that.
Speaker 8 (12:44):
We can work with countries around the world to help
improve their governance. We can help them build their economy
so they can have job opportunities for these people.
Speaker 5 (12:51):
And I remember it got brought up in one of
my classes and the professor said that we need to
have sympathy for ISIS.
Speaker 12 (12:59):
Right.
Speaker 5 (12:59):
And that was another one of those moments where it
just kind of really triggered me.
Speaker 13 (13:04):
Right.
Speaker 5 (13:04):
And when I heard that professor tell me we need
to have sympathy for ISIS, that's when I said I
need to expose this. So I did an undercover expose
and I got a hidden camera and I proposed making
an ISIS club on my university campus. And I told O'Keefe, yeah,
this is the script we have to do. And they
never thought it was going to work.
Speaker 14 (13:24):
Right.
Speaker 5 (13:24):
O'Keefe never thought this was going to work out.
Speaker 1 (13:26):
So she went out to prove him wrong. She armed
herself with a hidden camera and tried to make the
preposterous happen. She tried to start a pro-ISIS club at
Berry University.
Speaker 5 (13:38):
Well, I ended up going to the administrator and I
said I wanted to start a club for ISIS to
send overseas to send aid to ISIS fighters and their wives.
Speaker 6 (13:46):
And I said I wanted to call the club Sympathetic.
Speaker 5 (13:48):
Students in Support of the Islamic State of Iraq and Syria.
It's called Sympathetic Students in Support of the Islamic State
of Iraq and Syria.
Speaker 6 (13:55):
I want to raise money.
Speaker 5 (13:57):
Like, funds to send overseas and humanitarian efforts to help, like,
the widows and, like, the children of people who have
died over there in the Islamic State. One of the
things they really need is, like, flashlights because a lot
of the facilities have been destroyed, so, like, there's not
a lot of electricity and power. And then also, too, like,
a lot of the fighters, like, they can't see at night,
you know? So like people are like attacking them and
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they can't see at night and because like they're so poor,
like they don't have night vision and stuff, so they
wanted flashlights so that they could like better protect themselves.
Speaker 6 (14:27):
Many countries are technically in conflict with ISIS. Oh, so
you do specifically want to send aid to ISIS? Well, yeah.
Speaker 5 (14:33):
So maybe just change the name if I want to
have the club. Like do you have any suggestions like
is what I could call it?
Speaker 6 (14:37):
Yeah, we've talked about maybe staying in the Middle East.
Speaker 5 (14:41):
In support of the Middle East.
Speaker 6 (14:45):
As opposed to having the ISIS.
Speaker 1 (14:52):
Remarkably, her university was up for approving the club, and
Laura caught it all on camera. Her idea went so
well that Project Veritas thought they'd try pulling it off
at another school before publishing the story, so they sent
an undercover reporter to do the same thing at Cornell.
Speaker 15 (15:08):
What if you wanted to start a pro-ISIS club at
an American Ivy League university?
Speaker 16 (15:12):
There's a lot of our student organizations that do.
Speaker 6 (15:14):
Things like that.
Speaker 15 (15:16):
Would the assistant dean of students have a problem with
the humanitarian club sending care packages to terrorists? That's a
good question, Matt.
Speaker 7 (15:23):
And I think programs like that really do have a
good place here at Cornell.
Speaker 4 (15:26):
Maybe we could get a freedom fighter to come and
do a training camp for students.
Speaker 17 (15:31):
You'd be allowed to do something like that, just like
bringing a coach to do a training on a sports team.
Speaker 4 (15:36):
Oh, really?
Speaker 5 (15:36):
Okay.
Speaker 1 (15:37):
Again, astonishingly, it worked.
Speaker 5 (15:40):
And then we did the same script at Cornell, and
it ended up going so viral that President Donald Trump
ended up printing out a copy of it and faxing
it over to Project Veritas and asked James O'Keefe to
meet him because he thought it was so funny. I mean,
this was prior to even Donald Trump running for office, right?
He hadn't even announced that he was running for president.
Speaker 1 (15:58):
Laura was not even 22 years old yet, and her
work got on the radar of the billionaire real estate mogul.
but the stunt landed Laura in some hot water.
Speaker 9 (16:08):
Student suspended? Well, a woman in the middle of a
campus controversy says Berry University has booted her from class.
NBC6 reporter Jamie Garolla, live in Miami Shores with the
latest on this. Jamie, what's this all about?
Speaker 4 (16:20):
Well, yeah, well, the suspension means that that student is
not allowed here on campus and is not allowed to
go to class. Now, according to an apparent suspension letter,
the university says the student created a hostile environment here.
Speaker 5 (16:34):
When the video came out, it ended up going viral.
And it was two months prior to graduation, and my
university actually kicked me out. So meanwhile, I was set
to be valedictorian.
Speaker 6 (16:44):
I had a 4.0 GPA.
Speaker 5 (16:46):
And they literally kicked me out of college instead of
firing the university officials who said I could start an
ISIS club, right? And I ended up getting my diploma.
Speaker 6 (16:56):
Because I got a lawyer.
Speaker 1 (16:57):
The fact that she faced expulsion rather than the university
staff facing termination is was a pivotal moment in her
young career.
Speaker 5 (17:05):
It really set in stone, like, my mission has to
be to expose this Islamification that's taking place in our country.
And that's why, you know, going forward, issues of Islamic
immigration and Jew hatred and Sharia have been a key
part of, you know, what my work focuses on.
Speaker 1 (17:24):
It also earned her the label of Islamophobe by her critics,
a characterization Laura takes umbrage with.
Speaker 6 (17:30):
Well, Islamophobia doesn't exist, right? That's the thing. It's not,
a phobia is an irrational fear.
Speaker 5 (17:37):
And to have a fear of Islam is not irrational,
especially if you are an American or a non-Muslim or,
you know, a former Muslim, because Islam seeks to kill
non-believers and it seeks to be the dominant political ideology
in the world.
Speaker 1 (17:54):
Laura is a young Jewish woman who's been thinking about
the significance of the 9-11 terrorist attacks since she was eight. Islam,
in her mind, is not only a threat to her
Jewish community, it's a threat to Western culture. In America's
political class right now, this is a very controversial position.
But it nonetheless is a position held by some influential intellectuals.
Speaker 13 (18:15):
You know, for the last 15 years.
Speaker 1 (18:18):
That's Ayaan Hirsi Ali, a Somalia-born human rights activist who
embraced Islam as a young girl but fled to the
Netherlands to escape a forced marriage. She'd later become a U.S. citizen.
In a 2016 Sam Harris interview for his podcast Waking Up,
Ayaan touched on her mission.
Speaker 13 (18:35):
You know, for the last 15 years, I've been trying
to educate the enlightened world on Islam and the threat
that it poses to women, to people like me who
have chosen not to believe in God, to Christians, to Jews,
even to, and probably I would say mainly Christians, to
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those who actually are Muslims and believe in the Quran
and the Prophet Muhammad.
Speaker 1 (19:02):
Those are the words of a highly regarded former Muslim intellectual.
So Laura's views on the threat of Islam to America's
traditional culture cannot be disregarded simply as Islamophobia. Laura continued
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Welcome back. I'm Adriana Cortez. By the beginning of Trump's presidency,
America was in the beginnings of a dark phase. an
organic effort to normalize violence against Trump supporters had already
been in full swing.
Speaker 12 (20:43):
Overnight, all-out brawls outside the Trump rally in San Jose, California.
Trump supporters harassed, beaten, and bloodied by mobs of protesters.
Speaker 16 (20:55):
Known as one of America's most liberal campuses, UC Berkeley.
A war zone over conservative speaker Milo Yiannopoulos' appearance here.
A mob set fire to campus lights. Milo's name melting.
Speaker 4 (21:18):
That's rapper Snoop Dogg pulling the trigger on a toy
gun aimed at a clown dressed as President Donald Trump.
Speaker 2 (21:25):
When May 2017 arrived, the media would not work to
condemn the rising attacks on Trump supporters. So an independent
journalist began to raise the red flag on his own.
The journalist, Mike Cernovich, was the first to push the
topic at a White House press briefing.
Speaker 18 (21:42):
What about violence against Trump supporters in Berkeley? The violence
against Trump supporters isn't being covered.
Speaker 5 (21:47):
Why is that?
Speaker 18 (21:49):
Why will nobody here cover the violence against Trump supporters?
And why will you demand that leaders of the Democrats
disavow the violence from Antifa the way you demanded Trump
disavow violence from his supporters?
Speaker 14 (22:00):
This has been completely covered up.
Speaker 1 (22:03):
You have no answer.
Speaker 2 (22:04):
The mainstream media laughed at the question and continued to
ignore the issue. Then Kathy Griffin stepped up the vitriol
by imitating an ISIS tactic.
Speaker 10 (22:13):
Comedian Kathy Griffin doesn't have many people laughing with her
latest stunt.
Speaker 5 (22:17):
You'll see the photo.
Speaker 19 (22:18):
It shows a stone-faced Griffin staring forward into the lens
of the camera, holding up a blood-spattered head of a
Trump dummy. The comedian told a reporter that the picture
is just art, but others online weren't finding anything funny
or artistic about it.
Speaker 17 (22:32):
I went too far.
Speaker 6 (22:34):
I made a mistake, and I was wrong.
Speaker 4 (22:35):
The apology came just hours after the images went viral.
Speaker 2 (22:39):
Kathy Griffin holding a bloodied likeness of President Donald Trump's head.
Griffin swiftly apologized, but the fact that the mainstream comedian
thought she could get away with it showed the hostility
was beginning to be normalized. The media still refused to
condemn the vitriol against Trump and his supporters. The atmosphere
even ramped up when a play opened in New York City.
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The performance was Shakespeare in the Park's adaptation of Julius Caesar,
but this rendition had a little twist.
Speaker 5 (23:11):
The liberals in New York with the New York City
Public Theater, sponsored by a lot of these left-leaning organizations
and the New York Times and CNN, decided to host
a rendition of Julius Caesar, Shakespeare in the Park, in
which Julius Caesar was Donald Trump.
Speaker 2 (23:24):
Actually, it was Time Warner, CNN's parent company, that sponsored
the play.
Speaker 6 (23:29):
And it wasn't even like a.
It wasn't even a reserved change.
Speaker 5 (23:37):
They were blatantly trying to highlight the fact that they
disliked President Trump and that Caesar was Trump. And as
people know who have seen Julius Caesar, he gets stabbed, right?
But this rendition made it so that multiple individuals were
stabbing President Trump. And it was minorities and it was
(23:59):
Antifa and And it was basically like a dog whistle
to left-wing organizations in the left to assassinate President Trump, right?
Which is a crime in this country to advocate for
violence against the president of the United States.
Speaker 2 (24:13):
The first account of the show leaked out when an
attendee described the performance on comedian Joe Piscopo's podcast.
Speaker 20 (24:19):
I just assumed it was a classic performance of Julius Caesar.
Speaker 18 (24:23):
Sure, sure.
Speaker 20 (24:24):
So we go to sit down and I noticed that
the stage is kind of decorated American-themed. with Abraham Lincoln
on the backdrop. Kind of modern New York background. So
I knew it was going to be different, but wasn't
sure what was going to happen. Next thing we know,
the whole cast is all dressed in business suits. Definitely
(24:46):
a modern take on the play. And then Julius Caesar
was Donald Trump.
Speaker 1 (24:52):
And then they show him being brutally murdered?
Speaker 19 (24:54):
Yeah.
Speaker 20 (24:55):
So they all go to Senate. It's obviously Senate. There's
an American flag behind Julius Caesar. And I should mention
like this whole script, the whole entire time, they kept
the whole script true to William Shakespeare. Nothing changed. They
never actually said this is Donald Trump or this is Melania,
but it was blatantly obvious. And then, yeah, they had
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a full murder scene on stage. He stabbed several times.
There's blood spewing everywhere. It was appalling.
Speaker 2 (25:24):
The political media largely ignored the nightly staged assassination of Trump,
except for Fox News.
Speaker 21 (25:30):
Dan Bongino, a former Secret Service agent, was on earlier
warning about just that, that it can inspire others who
may be on the verge of a violent act to
act in this way.
Speaker 2 (25:41):
A few days later, that fear appeared to be realized.
Speaker 5 (25:52):
Receiving shots being fired, and there are people running, possibly
victims involved. 7.09 a.m., shots fired.
Speaker 12 (26:04):
It was a congressional baseball team practice for a charity game.
Speaker 22 (26:14):
That abruptly turned into a morning of terror.
Speaker 9 (26:18):
The tragic shooting that has shocked the country, an attack
on a Republican congressman practicing baseball this morning in Virginia.
Several new developments tonight. The newest, President Trump and the
First Lady visiting in the hospital the critically wounded House
Majority Whip Steve Scalise. The president describing the congressman as,
his words, very tough shape.
Speaker 2 (26:38):
Reports of the attempted slaughter of Republicans by a Bernie
Sanders volunteer barely survived a few news cycles. But stunningly,
even after the attack, New York's faux assassination of Trump
continued on, with many arguing that it was simply an
artistic expression. Finally, people had had enough. Journalist Mike Cernovich
(27:02):
looked to expose the artistic expression argument by announcing a challenge.
Speaker 14 (27:08):
And we're back. Mike Cernovich, Danger and Play.com, World of Mindset.
surprise package let me get this fired up on the
periscopes because this is gonna be lit this is gonna
be lit so you know you know how they have
that shakespeare in the park thing going on now right
well everybody has told me that all art should be
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allowed and all art you know we should do art
so i think that we should do a little bit
of art so here's my idea There are going to
be three more showings of the assassination art project of
Donald Trump, three more assassination planes. So what I need
you to do is I need you to get tickets
to the play. I need you all to get tickets.
If you're in New York and know anybody in New York,
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I need people to get tickets to the play where
Trump is assassinated. And I need you to get up
with either a CNN is ISIS prize or Bill Clinton's
a rapist or the media is terrorism. And if you're
able to get up and be escorted out by security,
then I will give you $ 1, 000. So $ 1, 000 to everybody.
(28:16):
If you can show up to this play where Trump is,
because this is art, this is performance art. And I
realize now because everybody in the art world is defending
the Trump assassination play. Well, this is art. Mike Cernovich
is showing art.
Speaker 2 (28:31):
On June 16th, 2017, Laura Loomer acquired a ticket.
Speaker 5 (28:37):
So I went to the play and I ended up
getting a ticket and it was a front row seat.
And I decided that someone had to take a stand.
So during the assassination scene, I stood up and I
stormed the stage and I ran onto the stage. Stop
the normalization of political violence against the right.
Speaker 6 (28:54):
This is unacceptable.
Speaker 23 (28:55):
You cannot promote this type of violence against the right.
Speaker 16 (28:59):
We're going to pause.
Speaker 6 (29:00):
We're not going to pause.
Speaker 5 (29:01):
Yes, we are.
Speaker 2 (29:25):
In effect, Laura showed off her own brand of performance art.
Jack Posobiak, another journalist and Trump supporter, caught the entire
ordeal on camera, then stood up in the crowd and
joined in.
Speaker 24 (29:35):
You are all Goebbels!
Speaker 3 (29:40):
You are all Nazis like Joseph Goebbels!
Speaker 23 (29:43):
This is Goebbels.
Speaker 25 (29:44):
You are all Goebbels.
Speaker 23 (29:46):
You are inciting terrorists.
Speaker 18 (29:48):
The blood of these police is on your hands.
Speaker 7 (29:51):
The blood of these police is on your hands.
Speaker 4 (29:53):
Goebbels would be proud.
Speaker 5 (29:55):
Goebbels would be proud.
Speaker 6 (29:57):
Goebbels would be proud.
Speaker 5 (29:59):
And I interrupted the assassination scene so they couldn't kill
President Trump.
Speaker 6 (30:04):
And it went viral.
Speaker 16 (30:06):
Right.
Speaker 5 (30:06):
Because it was the first time, I think, in history
that a conservative hijacked a left wing event and, you know,
implemented left wing.
Speaker 6 (30:15):
Tactics against the left.
Speaker 5 (30:17):
And so it kind of switched the tables and it
really shocked a lot of people. And it forced the
media to basically, you know, open up a discussion about
political violence against the right.
Speaker 21 (30:30):
Protester was arrested in Central Park last night after she
interrupted a controversial staging of Julius Caesar, which stars a
Trump lookalike.
Speaker 26 (30:44):
The shooting of Congressman Scalise provoked a protest during a
performance of Julius Caesar. An activist stormed the stage in
New York Shakespeare in the park last night, while another
shouted from the audience.
Speaker 2 (30:55):
Laura was arrested, but then was quickly released. By the
next morning, she literally became an overnight sensation.
Speaker 5 (31:03):
I gained like 40 to 50,000 followers in one night.
I was all over like every single publication, every single newspaper.
The New York Post, Fox News, CNN.
Speaker 6 (31:13):
I mean, everywhere.
Speaker 22 (31:14):
Well, New York Shakespeare and the Paw continued their production
of Julius Caesar, which depicts the killing of a Trump
lookalike every single night. Now, the show did close last
night as planned, but my next guest felt she had
to do something about the depiction of violence against our president.
So during Friday evening's performance, Laura Loomer staged... stormed the stage,
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interrupting the performance, denouncing the depiction of violence against the right,
and following the interruption, Loomer was in fact arrested by
the NYPD. She joins us now to explain why she
did this. Laura, welcome to the program. Thanks for being
with us.
Speaker 5 (31:47):
Thanks so much for having me, Sean. And that's kind
of the event that really set everything off for what
I do now.
Speaker 1 (31:55):
Laura's approach was simple. Use the left's tactics against them.
Although jarring to many traditional conservatives, The strategy seemed appropriate,
almost necessary for the time. Trump supporters were frequently getting
beaten bloody. An entire team of GOP politicians just days
earlier had almost been slaughtered. The public was becoming desensitized
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to violence against the right. If that wasn't the time
to take a stand on the issue, when was? But
perhaps signaling future conflicts, a few conservatives actually spoke out
against Laura's brand of performance art.
Speaker 27 (32:31):
Joining us from Los Angeles, we have veteran-in-chief of DailyWire.com,
syndicated columnist Ben Shapiro. Over the weekend, he criticized these
protests from the right, saying they adopt the tactics from
the left.
Speaker 15 (32:45):
I've spent my career opposing idiot snowflakery. You know, I
go around and I speak at places like Cal State
Los Angeles, and there's a near riot there. I go
and speak at University of Wisconsin. People try to storm
the stage, and I've always said... This kind of stuff
is not free speech when you're trying to censor somebody
else's free speech. And then the right does it. And shockingly,
there are members of the right, mainstream members of the right,
who says, well, you know, this is just turnabout as
fair play. Well, no, if it's wrong when the left
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does it, it's wrong when you do it.
Speaker 1 (33:07):
But their argument was flawed. No one's free speech was hindered.
The play wasn't shut down. The protest was nonviolent. So
comparing Laura's performance art to campus riots was like comparing
facts with feelings. And given the context of the time,
it wasn't snowflakery either. Violence against Trump supporters wasn't hypothetical.
It was actually happening.
Speaker 5 (33:27):
Often.
Speaker 1 (33:28):
And it was being normalized. Ironically, just a year later,
the media was arguing Trump's mere words were inciting violence.
Speaker 27 (33:37):
Again, yesterday we told you about the warning from President
Trump to evangelicals that there would be violence if Republicans
lose the midterms. He told religious leaders during a closed-door
dinner on Monday night that his opponents are violent people
who will overturn the gains made during his administration quickly
and violently. What do you make of the president of
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the United States? Really, is he predicting or is he inciting?
Speaker 1 (34:04):
Any reasonable person would agree that a dramatized bloody knifing
of the president was a bit more direct incitement than
mere words. But regardless of what the chatter class was saying,
whether you agreed with Laura's beliefs or not, whether you
admired her tactics or despised them, there was one unmistakable truth.
At the ripe old age of 24, Laura Loomer had arrived.
Speaker 5 (34:26):
But people always tried to tell me that my big
ideas were not possible. Like when I was in college
and like the journalism professor asked what people wanted to do,
I said that I wanted to be like, you know,
a prominent conservative journalist and, you know, be very well
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known and, you know, just kind of become like one
of these like notorious figures on the right.
Speaker 6 (34:56):
And I was told, oh, that's never going to happen, right?
Like you can't do things like that.
Speaker 5 (35:00):
Like when I had the script and O'Keefe said, oh,
that's not going to happen. It just says in my head,
I think, oh, well, watch me, right? And when you're
constantly told that you can't do something or that something
isn't possible, right?
Speaker 6 (35:15):
It just makes you want to do it even more.
Speaker 5 (35:18):
And so I think I kind of just developed the
attitude that I wasn't going to let anybody tell me
what I could and couldn't do or people define my
limitations or set my boundaries.
Speaker 6 (35:28):
And I never took no for an answer.
Speaker 5 (35:30):
And so I would just kind of do these things
that people thought were impossible.
Speaker 1 (35:34):
So she went out to make the impossible a reality.
Speaker 5 (35:39):
I had told a friend of mine, yeah, I'm going
to go to Hillary's book signing tomorrow and I'm going
to walk right up to her and confront her and
put my cell phone in her face. I said, oh,
you're never going to do that. You'll never get past
her security.
Speaker 6 (35:49):
No way in hell. Hi, it's so great to see you. Well,
it's great for you to be here. Thanks for having me.
Speaker 23 (35:56):
So the American people would really like to know, what
happened to your 33,000 emails?
Speaker 22 (36:01):
What happened in Benghazi?
Speaker 6 (36:03):
Go read the book.
Speaker 28 (36:03):
What happened to the millions of dollars that was supposed
to go to the people in Haiti?
Speaker 2 (36:07):
You know what?
Speaker 6 (36:08):
I'm so sorry. You believe things that are untrue.
Speaker 1 (36:11):
She pressed Las Vegas law enforcement to correct the details
of the mass shooting.
Speaker 7 (36:15):
Her confrontational style was even given a name.
Speaker 1 (36:26):
The people she confronted got loomered.
Speaker 17 (36:28):
Conservative journalist Laura Loomer stood up, as many media people
do whenever public figures show up, and started shouting questions
at James Comey.
Speaker 28 (36:40):
How is it ethical to brief the president of the
United States on an unverifiable and salacious dossier? And how
is it ethical leadership to not tell him that his
political opposition, Hillary Clinton, paid for that?
Speaker 6 (36:53):
You are not an ethical leader. Ma'am, you're going to
have to leave. You're going to get prosecuted, Comey.
Speaker 16 (36:59):
You're going to get locked up.
Speaker 24 (37:00):
Comey, you're going to get locked up.
Speaker 17 (37:02):
That was, again, Laura Loomer. I mean, you have to
know that that question is right out of my heart.
And so she's telling anybody and everybody, be what you
want to be, be the best you can be, and
you can do it. Don't listen to people who tell
you you can't do it. That's ever so true, folks.
Speaker 1 (37:16):
She confronted Twitter CEO Jack Dorsey.
Speaker 6 (37:19):
You are lying about censoring conservatives.
Speaker 7 (37:21):
You are caught on tape by Project Veritas.
Speaker 6 (37:24):
Shadow banning people. You are censoring people. You censored me.
You censored Milo. You censored Chuck Johnson. James O'Keefe.
Speaker 28 (37:30):
You even censored President Trump when one of your employees
deleted his account for a few minutes.
Speaker 6 (37:35):
You are censoring conservatives.
Speaker 7 (37:36):
And I'm asking you, President Donald Trump, help us.
Speaker 6 (37:39):
Please help us, Mr.
Speaker 7 (37:40):
President, before it is too late.
Speaker 5 (37:42):
Because Jack Dorsey is trying to influence the election.
Speaker 17 (37:45):
She's also saying that people are accusing her of acting
like a liberal. And her reaction or answer to that was, no, no, no,
I'm not going to go liberal. Liberals don't ask tough questions.
Speaker 1 (37:55):
Even actress Alyssa Milano wasn't spared. Laura called her out
for her support of the leader of the Women's March,
Linda Sarsour.
Speaker 5 (38:01):
My question is, will you please disavow her because she
is advocating for Sharia law.
Speaker 27 (38:04):
She's not.
Speaker 3 (38:05):
She's not.
Speaker 6 (38:06):
She's not. But thank you so much for your question.
Speaker 1 (38:11):
No one was safe from being rumored. Alyssa Milano was wrong.
The Women's March leader had advocated for Sharia law in
the U.S., an Islamic-based law that subjugates women. Within weeks,
the actress announced she would not be speaking at the
Women's March. At 25 years old, Laura was outperforming her peers.
Her videos were getting hundreds of thousands and sometimes millions
(38:32):
of views. Every conservative outlet was posting her videos and
garnering all the web traffic and pocketing the ad dollars
that came along with it. But she was sensing something.
she began to feel ostracized by a lot of the media.
And that would soon be an important point for Laura.
You see, even after lumering all of these powerful people,
it was the people behind a particular line of questioning
(38:55):
that would mount a sneak attack on her.
Speaker 2 (38:58):
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Speaker 1 (39:12):
Welcome back to Red Pilled America. In late November 2018,
Laura was a bit triggered by something she saw on Twitter.
For months, she'd been aggressively questioning several Muslim activists. She
called out Women's March leader Linda Sarsour for being anti-Semitic.
Speaker 29 (39:27):
Linda, you tweeted that there's nothing creepier than Zionism.
Speaker 6 (39:30):
Okay, can you please leave? Thank you. creepier than Zionism.
Speaker 18 (39:34):
Linda, you're an anti-Semite.
Speaker 6 (39:36):
You called for jihad in the United States. Can you
please leave? It's time for you to leave.
Speaker 1 (39:41):
She also called out two Muslim Democrats for their anti-Semitism
and ties to Linda Sarsour.
Speaker 29 (39:47):
Rashida, are you willing to admit as a congresswoman that
Hamas is a terrorist organization? Then why are you campaigning
with Linda Sarsour who called for jihad against President Trump?
Speaker 6 (39:58):
So that is afforded to all of us.
Speaker 7 (40:00):
What about justice for little girls, Ilan?
Speaker 6 (40:03):
You voted against legislation.
Speaker 23 (40:05):
That would have made FGM a felony.
Speaker 6 (40:08):
Why is she so hateful against Israel?
Speaker 1 (40:10):
Both of the Muslim Democrats ended up winning their elections.
After the election... Twitter posted a Twitter moment on their
site that triggered Laura. A Twitter moment is a slideshow
of multiple tweets that tell a story. In the Twitter
moment was an image of newly elected Congresswoman Ilhan Omar
that celebrated women, LGBTQ, and minorities. So Laura tweeted a
(40:31):
response that read, Isn't.
Speaker 5 (40:33):
It ironic how the Twitter moment used to celebrate women, LGBTQ,
and minorities is a picture of Ilhan Omar? Ilhan is pro-Sharia.
Ilhan is pro-FGM, which is female genital mutilation. Um... And
under Sharia, homosexuals are oppressed and killed. Women are abused
and forced to wear the hijab. Ilhan is anti-Jewish.
Speaker 1 (40:52):
She published the tweet and went on with her day.
But little did she know that according to the Wall
Street Journal, behind the scenes, the Council on American Islamic Relations,
an advocacy organization with ties to many of the Muslims
she was questioning, was lobbying Twitter to have Laura banned
from the site. The day before Thanksgiving, she was in
Florida visiting with family when she got the word.
Speaker 6 (41:13):
So.
Speaker 5 (41:14):
My dad had actually come in to visit me and
I hadn't seen him in like a year. And I
was on my way to a fan meetup because it
was after the Florida election and people wanted to hang out.
I was supposed to go meet up with Roger Stone.
And I'm in the car with my dad and we're
at a red light. And I was about to tweet
out like, Oh, happy Thanksgiving. Well, I log into my
(41:35):
phone and I get this message that said, you've been,
your account has been suspended.
Speaker 6 (41:39):
And I like could not believe it. I literally pulled over.
Speaker 5 (41:42):
On the side of the street and I, sat in
my car, and just could not believe it because it
was shocking to me, right?
Speaker 6 (41:49):
It came with no warning whatsoever.
Speaker 5 (41:50):
I had 265,000 followers, and my entire business model and
everything I did was dependent on Twitter.
Speaker 7 (41:57):
So it just wasn't a very good day.
Speaker 5 (42:01):
I mean, I was pretty much devastated over losing my
biggest platform and just shocked that they didn't even really
give me a reason besides that completely factual tweet about
Ilhan Omar. And.
Speaker 7 (42:13):
It was depressing.
Speaker 1 (42:15):
When she was banned, one of the only big-name conservatives
that came to her defense was writer and entrepreneur Michelle Malkin.
Speaker 10 (42:21):
Twitter booted Loomer, who was Jewish, off its site for
expressing her well-supported opinions, which the social media giant called, quote,
hateful conduct. Loomer has been labeled a, quote, far-right activist
for her mainstream views. If she were a left-wing feminist
who practiced undercover and gonzo journalism to go after Republicans,
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she'd be hailed as an innovative disruptor instead of dismissed
by establishment elites on both sides of the political aisle.
Speaker 1 (42:53):
But Michelle Malkin was one of the only big names
with the cojones to come to Laura's defense. All the others,
whose websites have used her videos to draw traffic and
add dollars, were largely silent on her Twitter ban. Yes,
most posted that she was banned from the site. attracting
even more traffic care of Laura. But the faces of
most of these organizations did not come forward and demand
(43:13):
her reinstatement, like the mainstream media came to Jim Acosta's
defense when his permanent White House press pass was revoked
for manhandling a female White House staffer.
Speaker 5 (43:24):
I had 265,000 followers, and my entire business model and
everything I did was dependent on Twitter.
Speaker 1 (43:30):
Laura isn't independent. She doesn't have a salary. She just
creates content and hopes that people come to her to
support her work. After being banned from Twitter, she took
to Facebook to inform the public on what happened.
Speaker 7 (43:41):
Everything I said is 100% true and factual.
Speaker 6 (43:44):
It's not malicious. It's not mean. It's not hateful.
Speaker 5 (43:47):
And so now in America, if you're a journalist like
myself that reports on issues of counterterrorism or anti-Semitism or
political issues like I have, you're not allowed to report
the truth anymore or else you're going to be suspended.
I just had my Twitter account suspended permanently.
Speaker 6 (44:01):
265,000 followers suspended.
Speaker 1 (44:07):
She went through Thanksgiving a bit down, but that changed quickly.
Speaker 9 (44:12):
We don't always have enough time to cover all of
the recent news, so here with a recap is one
of our writers, Amber Ruffin, in a segment we call
Amber Says What.
Speaker 16 (44:20):
You guys!
Speaker 24 (44:23):
Things have been crazy!
Speaker 25 (44:25):
Something hilarious happened. A super far-right woman named Laura Loomer
got banned from Twitter and then handcuffed herself to Twitter
headquarters to protest. And I was like, she's going to
get in so much trouble.
Speaker 5 (44:37):
Hello, everybody.
Speaker 7 (44:38):
My name is Laura Loomer.
Speaker 24 (44:39):
I'm a conservative investigative journalist. and today I'm here at
Twitter in New York City to talk to you.
Speaker 23 (44:50):
About social media censorship and the double standard that exists
here at Twitter. Jack Dorsey at Twitter banned my account
permanently on November 21st.
Speaker 24 (45:01):
I am a conservative Jewish journalist and I.
Speaker 6 (45:05):
Was reporting facts.
Speaker 1 (45:10):
The woman banned from Twitter became the top trending topic
on Twitter. Laura Loomer can't help but make the news.
Which brings us back to the question, why don't conservative
elites protect their own? The answer is simple. Conservative elites
want to fit in with the ruling class. Trump supporters
happen to be the favorite punching bags of our ruling class,
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on both sides of the political aisle. Any chance to
throw them under the bus secures their place in that
prestigious society. Destroying Trump supporters ensures their continued appearances on
cable TV, guarantees invites to popular cocktail parties, and secures
campaign contributions from the deep-pocketed donors, especially Silicon Valley. Laura
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Loomer is unabashedly a Trump supporter, whose tough questions made
her some powerful enemies. By not coming to her aid,
the elites on both sides of the aisle sent a
message to the world. Tread lightly, or you may be next.
Whether you like Laura or not, there is no question
that she's a media prodigy that has made conservative outlets
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a ton of money. They happily pocketed the ad revenue
generated by the web traffic she created, but remain unopinionated
on the critical blow to her financial business model. Middle
America is watching as Trump's most talented supporters are taken
out one by one. The sharpest watchers are no doubt
beginning to think conservatism isn't so good at conserving.
Speaker 11 (46:36):
These kids wore the MAGA hats. Do you think they'll
ever want to read National Review after you look at
the way National Review simply accepted all the left's premises?
So that basically the bastion of conservatism turns out to
be Kathy Griffin with a few more three syllable words.
What's the point of American conservatism if they just accept
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all the left's premises when it comes to this evil
Twitter feasting?
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Speaker 3 (01:00):
Buddies at National Review were among the first to pile
on these kids. What would make a bunch of people
on our side want to destroy teenagers?
Speaker 1 (01:12):
The attack on the Catholic Covington teenagers has reopened an
old wound, one that has been lingering for years. Conservative
elites seem to love throwing middle America under the bus.
Speaker 4 (01:22):
Look, to be totally honest, if things are so bad,
as you say, with the white working class, don't you
want to get new Americans in?
Speaker 3 (01:28):
The wall has always been a con for Donald Trump's credulous, rube,
ten-toothed base.
Speaker 1 (01:35):
Liberal elites defend their kind. Conservatives, not so much. But why?
Speaker 5 (01:39):
Why?
Speaker 1 (01:40):
Why don't conservative elites protect their own? I'm Patrick Karelchi.
Speaker 2 (01:48):
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Speaker 1 (01:50):
And this is Red Pilled America, a storytelling show.
Speaker 2 (01:54):
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Speaker 1 (01:59):
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You can think of Red Pilled America as audio documentaries,
and we promise only one thing. The truth. Welcome to
Red Pilled America. Some conservatives have been throwing Trump supporters
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under the bus for years now. But their recent knee-jerk
attack on the Covington teenagers has reopened the wound and
has some people wondering, why don't our conservative elites protect
their base? To find the answer, we follow the rise
of a one-of-a-kind journalist and how her work reveals a
growing fracture in the conservative movement. Laura Loomer is an
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outspoken journalist, but she wasn't brought up in a media epicenter.
Speaker 6 (02:57):
I grew up in Tucson, Arizona.
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Her parents instilled something in her from a young age
that has stuck with her to this day.
Speaker 5 (03:04):
My parents were They're not hyper-political people, but we watched
the news, and.
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They made an effort, of course, to highlight.
Speaker 5 (03:14):
The importance of watching the news and knowing what's going on.
Speaker 6 (03:17):
So from a very young age, I always knew what
was going on.
Speaker 1 (03:20):
When most of us were introduced to video games or
new cartoons, Laura was introduced to an event that would
shape the rest of her life.
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And I had always found Islam to be interesting, and
from a young age, I was 8 years old when
9-11 happened.
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And my parents.
Speaker 5 (03:34):
You know, they were very outspoken when I was growing
up about, like, the war on terror. And I remember
they bought me the Iraqi most wanted playing cards.
Speaker 1 (03:45):
Laura's own vocal nature became evident at a young age.
Speaker 6 (03:48):
When I was a kid, I didn't have, like, a
lot of friends.
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I just kind of, I wouldn't say that I was
a loner, but I just kind of, like, stuck to myself.
Speaker 6 (03:55):
And I was always very outspoken, but I ended up
getting in a lot of trouble growing up in school
for being outspoken, right?
Speaker 1 (04:02):
Laura's home life became a challenge. her parents divorced, the
family became a bit dysfunctional.
Speaker 5 (04:08):
Because of the circumstances, my dad ended up sending me
and one of my other brothers to boarding school. And
so I didn't have like an easy, smooth, you know, fun,
enjoyable childhood, but I decided to make the best of it.
And I kind of had to really mature from a
very young age. So pretty much from the age of 12,
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I've been, you know, on my own kind of, living
life as an adult because I went to boarding school
from age 12 till the time I was 18.
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When it came time for college, Laura had a specific
kind of school she wanted to attend. That didn't end
up panning out.
Speaker 5 (04:47):
Yeah, so when I finished boarding school, I actually decided
to go to Mount Holyoke. And it was interesting because
I wanted to go to Dartmouth and I remember I
was like really devastated because I got waitlisted. And when
I got waitlisted, I, you know, I felt like I
felt like a failure and I had thought that I
was going to go to Dartmouth, right?
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I just kind of like had this fantasy in my
head that I was going to go to an Ivy
League school. And I didn't get in.
Speaker 5 (05:14):
So I just went to Mount Holyoke, which is like
a women's college in Massachusetts. And I only went there because,
you know, it's known for being, you know, an elite university,
an elite college. And I thought, well, I need to
go to a school that has a fancy name if
I'm going to be successful, right? Well, anyway, I get
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to Mount Holyoke and I absolutely hated it. I did
one semester there and my grades were fine. I had
like straight A's.
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That was no problem. But the people there were just insufferable.
Speaker 5 (05:54):
I mean, it was just, I was surrounded by vegan
militant feminazis who didn't want to accept the fact that,
you know, I was a conservative.
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They could not handle that.
Speaker 1 (06:05):
So Laura transferred out of the school after just one
semester and got a scholarship to Berry University in Miami, Florida.
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It was a.
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Smaller school, and I thought, well, you know, this is fine.
I guess I don't really need to go to a
school that has an elite name.
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I'm just going to, you know, work and go to school.
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Laura initially thought she was destined to go into medicine.
Her father was a doctor.
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And it's kind of funny.
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You know, my dad's a doctor, and I thought, I
want to go to medical school.
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But I have a really hard time with math, and
so for me... you know, with math classes and all
of these high level courses like calculus and physics, it's
very hard for me because growing up, I kind of
had this like, I guess I'd call it like a
learning disability when it comes to math. And so I
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was always behind a year in my math classes. And
when I got to college, I realized, well, I'm not
going to be doing very.
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Well in medical school.
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I was able to get a 4.0 and have very
good grades, but I realized I'm not going to really
be able to go to medical school because I don't
know how I'd pass all these classes.
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Like, it's going to be overwhelming.
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So I just decided, like, because I'm not very good at.
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Math, that I wouldn't have a career in medicine.
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And that's when I decided that I wanted to do
broadcast journalism.
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So she majored in broadcast journalism and political science. Laura
thought of herself as political by high school, but because
she'd attended a boarding school on a ranch in the
middle of nowheresville, she wasn't really able to explore her interest.
That was about to change.
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So when I got to college, I became more political.
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And it wasn't until I really went to school in
Miami that I joined College Republicans and started helping out
with the Republican Party of Florida.
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And so everything kind.
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Of began for me when I was in college, even
though I was always interested in politics and media growing up.
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She began to see an opportunity to bring these two
worlds together while attending an event at school.
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Yeah. So when I was in college at Berry University,
what happened was I was president of.
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The College Republicans.
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This was 9-11 of 2014, I believe.
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And what happened was the university decided that they were.
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Going to have an interfaith 9-11 memorial service.
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And one of my professors said, all right, we're going
to go to the ceremony today.
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And, you know, it's mandatory.
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So I go and I had no problem going, of course.
But then when I get there, they pass out these pamphlets.
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And if you are in an interfaith ceremony.
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Well, you would expect there to be multiple religious groups represented, right?
Speaker 6 (08:41):
And this was a Catholic school.
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I mean, I'm Jewish, but I went to a Catholic
school because I got a really good scholarship. And when
I got there, I looked at the pamphlet, and it
was two pages long, and the first page and a
half was dedicated to Islam. And they literally opened up
the 9-11 memorial service by allowing an imam to chant
Allah Hu Akbar.
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And I was just sitting there thinking to myself, wow,
this is absolutely.
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Absurd, right?
Speaker 1 (09:05):
So Laura decided to write about the event.
Speaker 5 (09:08):
And so I ended up posting a really big Facebook
post about this and it ended up going viral. And
what happened is it got picked up by Breitbart and
Pamela Geller and lots of different news organizations and people
started to bombard my university with messages.
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It wasn't long before she got called in.
Speaker 5 (09:24):
When the university called me into the administrator's office and
threatened to kick me out of school, I kept on
trying to talk to the media about They also told
me that I had to go see psychological services because
they said that my views on Islam were not normal, right?
Because I said like, well, Allahu Akbar is obviously what
the 9-11 hijackers probably said right before they flew the
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planes into the tower.
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And it's highly inappropriate. And they didn't want to accept this.
Speaker 1 (09:51):
Here Laura was, barely in her 20s, and she'd already
got a taste of a story going viral. Laura learned
she had a powerful voice. and she was just getting started.
As a result of the post going viral, Laura was
invited to a political conference.
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And I ended up meeting James O'Keefe there.
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James O'Keefe is an investigative journalist with an independent outfit
called Project Veritas.
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And that was the first time I met O'Keefe, and
of course I was a fan of his, and I
told him, oh my god, you need to hire me.
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You know, I kind of ambushed O'Keefe and said, you
have to hire me. I mean, you need someone to go.
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Undercover in the Hillary Clinton campaign for the election cycle.
And I never, I didn't hear back from him for
a while. And then three months later, he gave me
a call and wanted to fly me out to New
York and flew me.
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Out the next day.
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She began working for Project Veritas while still finishing college.
O'Keefe had a way of testing Laura.
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For my very first exercise with O'Keefe.
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They gave me a camera and they told me to
go to the Black Lives Matter rally.
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And that's what they did with people back then, right?
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They would give them a camera and test them out
to see if they're even capable of doing undercover work.
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So she went to the rally and what she captured
on that first assignment was the daughter of Eric Garner,
a black man who tragically died from a police chokehold
during an arrest. She captured that deceased man's daughter, labeling
Al Sharpton as someone in the civil rights movement purely
for the money.
Speaker 5 (11:20):
So what, you think Al Sharpton is.
Speaker 6 (11:25):
Kind of like a crook in a sense?
Speaker 5 (11:27):
Like you think he's like, that is money with you.
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The story landed on the front page of the New
York Post. Laura was on her way.
Speaker 5 (11:36):
And it was at that moment that Project Veritas told
me that they wanted me to work with them. like full-time,
and I was still a college student at this time.
So I quit my job working for WSBN, which was
the Fox affiliate news station in Miami, Florida. And I
started going back and forth between Miami and New York
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because I was still in college.
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Laura quickly came up with her next media hit, an
investigation to expose the PC culture of colleges. At the time,
a story was going viral in conservative media. An Obama
State Department spokeswoman had an interesting suggestion on how to
stop Islamic terrorist attacks. She suggested we give them job opportunities.
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We cannot win this war by killing them. We cannot
kill our way out of this war. We need in
the longer term, medium and longer term, to go after
the root causes that leads people to join these groups,
whether it's lack of opportunity for jobs.
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We're not going to be able to stop that in
our lifetime or 50 lifetimes.
Speaker 10 (12:35):
There's always going to be poor people.
Speaker 9 (12:37):
There's always going to be poor Muslims.
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And as long as there are poor Muslims.
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The trumpets blow and they'll join.
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We can't stop that.
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We can work with countries around the world to help
improve their governance. We can help them build their economy
so they can have job opportunities for these people.
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And I remember it got brought up in one of
my classes and the professor said that we need to
have sympathy for ISIS.
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Right.
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And that was another one of those moments where it
just kind of really triggered me.
Speaker 13 (13:04):
Right.
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And when I heard that professor tell me we need
to have sympathy for ISIS, that's when I said I
need to expose this. So I did an undercover expose
and I got a hidden camera and I proposed making
an ISIS club on my university campus. And I told O'Keefe, yeah,
this is the script we have to do. And they
never thought it was going to work.
Speaker 14 (13:24):
Right.
Speaker 5 (13:24):
O'Keefe never thought this was going to work out.
Speaker 1 (13:26):
So she went out to prove him wrong. She armed
herself with a hidden camera and tried to make the
preposterous happen. She tried to start a pro-ISIS club at
Berry University.
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Well, I ended up going to the administrator and I
said I wanted to start a club for ISIS to
send overseas to send aid to ISIS fighters and their wives.
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And I said I wanted to call the club Sympathetic.
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Students in Support of the Islamic State of Iraq and Syria.
It's called Sympathetic Students in Support of the Islamic State
of Iraq and Syria.
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I want to raise money.
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Like, funds to send overseas and humanitarian efforts to help, like,
the widows and, like, the children of people who have
died over there in the Islamic State. One of the
things they really need is, like, flashlights because a lot
of the facilities have been destroyed, so, like, there's not
a lot of electricity and power. And then also, too, like,
a lot of the fighters, like, they can't see at night,
you know? So like people are like attacking them and
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they can't see at night and because like they're so poor,
like they don't have night vision and stuff, so they
wanted flashlights so that they could like better protect themselves.
Speaker 6 (14:27):
Many countries are technically in conflict with ISIS. Oh, so
you do specifically want to send aid to ISIS? Well, yeah.
Speaker 5 (14:33):
So maybe just change the name if I want to
have the club. Like do you have any suggestions like
is what I could call it?
Speaker 6 (14:37):
Yeah, we've talked about maybe staying in the Middle East.
Speaker 5 (14:41):
In support of the Middle East.
Speaker 6 (14:45):
As opposed to having the ISIS.
Speaker 1 (14:52):
Remarkably, her university was up for approving the club, and
Laura caught it all on camera. Her idea went so
well that Project Veritas thought they'd try pulling it off
at another school before publishing the story, so they sent
an undercover reporter to do the same thing at Cornell.
Speaker 15 (15:08):
What if you wanted to start a pro-ISIS club at
an American Ivy League university?
Speaker 16 (15:12):
There's a lot of our student organizations that do.
Speaker 6 (15:14):
Things like that.
Speaker 15 (15:16):
Would the assistant dean of students have a problem with
the humanitarian club sending care packages to terrorists? That's a
good question, Matt.
Speaker 7 (15:23):
And I think programs like that really do have a
good place here at Cornell.
Speaker 4 (15:26):
Maybe we could get a freedom fighter to come and
do a training camp for students.
Speaker 17 (15:31):
You'd be allowed to do something like that, just like
bringing a coach to do a training on a sports team.
Speaker 4 (15:36):
Oh, really?
Speaker 5 (15:36):
Okay.
Speaker 1 (15:37):
Again, astonishingly, it worked.
Speaker 5 (15:40):
And then we did the same script at Cornell, and
it ended up going so viral that President Donald Trump
ended up printing out a copy of it and faxing
it over to Project Veritas and asked James O'Keefe to
meet him because he thought it was so funny. I mean,
this was prior to even Donald Trump running for office, right?
He hadn't even announced that he was running for president.
Speaker 1 (15:58):
Laura was not even 22 years old yet, and her
work got on the radar of the billionaire real estate mogul.
but the stunt landed Laura in some hot water.
Speaker 9 (16:08):
Student suspended? Well, a woman in the middle of a
campus controversy says Berry University has booted her from class.
NBC6 reporter Jamie Garolla, live in Miami Shores with the
latest on this. Jamie, what's this all about?
Speaker 4 (16:20):
Well, yeah, well, the suspension means that that student is
not allowed here on campus and is not allowed to
go to class. Now, according to an apparent suspension letter,
the university says the student created a hostile environment here.
Speaker 5 (16:34):
When the video came out, it ended up going viral.
And it was two months prior to graduation, and my
university actually kicked me out. So meanwhile, I was set
to be valedictorian.
Speaker 6 (16:44):
I had a 4.0 GPA.
Speaker 5 (16:46):
And they literally kicked me out of college instead of
firing the university officials who said I could start an
ISIS club, right? And I ended up getting my diploma.
Speaker 6 (16:56):
Because I got a lawyer.
Speaker 1 (16:57):
The fact that she faced expulsion rather than the university
staff facing termination is was a pivotal moment in her
young career.
Speaker 5 (17:05):
It really set in stone, like, my mission has to
be to expose this Islamification that's taking place in our country.
And that's why, you know, going forward, issues of Islamic
immigration and Jew hatred and Sharia have been a key
part of, you know, what my work focuses on.
Speaker 1 (17:24):
It also earned her the label of Islamophobe by her critics,
a characterization Laura takes umbrage with.
Speaker 6 (17:30):
Well, Islamophobia doesn't exist, right? That's the thing. It's not,
a phobia is an irrational fear.
Speaker 5 (17:37):
And to have a fear of Islam is not irrational,
especially if you are an American or a non-Muslim or,
you know, a former Muslim, because Islam seeks to kill
non-believers and it seeks to be the dominant political ideology
in the world.
Speaker 1 (17:54):
Laura is a young Jewish woman who's been thinking about
the significance of the 9-11 terrorist attacks since she was eight. Islam,
in her mind, is not only a threat to her
Jewish community, it's a threat to Western culture. In America's
political class right now, this is a very controversial position.
But it nonetheless is a position held by some influential intellectuals.
Speaker 13 (18:15):
You know, for the last 15 years.
Speaker 1 (18:18):
That's Ayaan Hirsi Ali, a Somalia-born human rights activist who
embraced Islam as a young girl but fled to the
Netherlands to escape a forced marriage. She'd later become a U.S. citizen.
In a 2016 Sam Harris interview for his podcast Waking Up,
Ayaan touched on her mission.
Speaker 13 (18:35):
You know, for the last 15 years, I've been trying
to educate the enlightened world on Islam and the threat
that it poses to women, to people like me who
have chosen not to believe in God, to Christians, to Jews,
even to, and probably I would say mainly Christians, to
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those who actually are Muslims and believe in the Quran
and the Prophet Muhammad.
Speaker 1 (19:02):
Those are the words of a highly regarded former Muslim intellectual.
So Laura's views on the threat of Islam to America's
traditional culture cannot be disregarded simply as Islamophobia. Laura continued
working for O'Keeffe, but eventually decided to branch out on
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Welcome back. I'm Adriana Cortez. By the beginning of Trump's presidency,
America was in the beginnings of a dark phase. an
organic effort to normalize violence against Trump supporters had already
been in full swing.
Speaker 12 (20:43):
Overnight, all-out brawls outside the Trump rally in San Jose, California.
Trump supporters harassed, beaten, and bloodied by mobs of protesters.
Speaker 16 (20:55):
Known as one of America's most liberal campuses, UC Berkeley.
A war zone over conservative speaker Milo Yiannopoulos' appearance here.
A mob set fire to campus lights. Milo's name melting.
Speaker 4 (21:18):
That's rapper Snoop Dogg pulling the trigger on a toy
gun aimed at a clown dressed as President Donald Trump.
Speaker 2 (21:25):
When May 2017 arrived, the media would not work to
condemn the rising attacks on Trump supporters. So an independent
journalist began to raise the red flag on his own.
The journalist, Mike Cernovich, was the first to push the
topic at a White House press briefing.
Speaker 18 (21:42):
What about violence against Trump supporters in Berkeley? The violence
against Trump supporters isn't being covered.
Speaker 5 (21:47):
Why is that?
Speaker 18 (21:49):
Why will nobody here cover the violence against Trump supporters?
And why will you demand that leaders of the Democrats
disavow the violence from Antifa the way you demanded Trump
disavow violence from his supporters?
Speaker 14 (22:00):
This has been completely covered up.
Speaker 1 (22:03):
You have no answer.
Speaker 2 (22:04):
The mainstream media laughed at the question and continued to
ignore the issue. Then Kathy Griffin stepped up the vitriol
by imitating an ISIS tactic.
Speaker 10 (22:13):
Comedian Kathy Griffin doesn't have many people laughing with her
latest stunt.
Speaker 5 (22:17):
You'll see the photo.
Speaker 19 (22:18):
It shows a stone-faced Griffin staring forward into the lens
of the camera, holding up a blood-spattered head of a
Trump dummy. The comedian told a reporter that the picture
is just art, but others online weren't finding anything funny
or artistic about it.
Speaker 17 (22:32):
I went too far.
Speaker 6 (22:34):
I made a mistake, and I was wrong.
Speaker 4 (22:35):
The apology came just hours after the images went viral.
Speaker 2 (22:39):
Kathy Griffin holding a bloodied likeness of President Donald Trump's head.
Griffin swiftly apologized, but the fact that the mainstream comedian
thought she could get away with it showed the hostility
was beginning to be normalized. The media still refused to
condemn the vitriol against Trump and his supporters. The atmosphere
even ramped up when a play opened in New York City.
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The performance was Shakespeare in the Park's adaptation of Julius Caesar,
but this rendition had a little twist.
Speaker 5 (23:11):
The liberals in New York with the New York City
Public Theater, sponsored by a lot of these left-leaning organizations
and the New York Times and CNN, decided to host
a rendition of Julius Caesar, Shakespeare in the Park, in
which Julius Caesar was Donald Trump.
Speaker 2 (23:24):
Actually, it was Time Warner, CNN's parent company, that sponsored
the play.
Speaker 6 (23:29):
And it wasn't even like a.
It wasn't even a reserved change.
Speaker 5 (23:37):
They were blatantly trying to highlight the fact that they
disliked President Trump and that Caesar was Trump. And as
people know who have seen Julius Caesar, he gets stabbed, right?
But this rendition made it so that multiple individuals were
stabbing President Trump. And it was minorities and it was
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Antifa and And it was basically like a dog whistle
to left-wing organizations in the left to assassinate President Trump, right?
Which is a crime in this country to advocate for
violence against the president of the United States.
Speaker 2 (24:13):
The first account of the show leaked out when an
attendee described the performance on comedian Joe Piscopo's podcast.
Speaker 20 (24:19):
I just assumed it was a classic performance of Julius Caesar.
Speaker 18 (24:23):
Sure, sure.
Speaker 20 (24:24):
So we go to sit down and I noticed that
the stage is kind of decorated American-themed. with Abraham Lincoln
on the backdrop. Kind of modern New York background. So
I knew it was going to be different, but wasn't
sure what was going to happen. Next thing we know,
the whole cast is all dressed in business suits. Definitely
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a modern take on the play. And then Julius Caesar
was Donald Trump.
Speaker 1 (24:52):
And then they show him being brutally murdered?
Speaker 19 (24:54):
Yeah.
Speaker 20 (24:55):
So they all go to Senate. It's obviously Senate. There's
an American flag behind Julius Caesar. And I should mention
like this whole script, the whole entire time, they kept
the whole script true to William Shakespeare. Nothing changed. They
never actually said this is Donald Trump or this is Melania,
but it was blatantly obvious. And then, yeah, they had
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a full murder scene on stage. He stabbed several times.
There's blood spewing everywhere. It was appalling.
Speaker 2 (25:24):
The political media largely ignored the nightly staged assassination of Trump,
except for Fox News.
Speaker 21 (25:30):
Dan Bongino, a former Secret Service agent, was on earlier
warning about just that, that it can inspire others who
may be on the verge of a violent act to
act in this way.
Speaker 2 (25:41):
A few days later, that fear appeared to be realized.
Speaker 5 (25:52):
Receiving shots being fired, and there are people running, possibly
victims involved. 7.09 a.m., shots fired.
Speaker 12 (26:04):
It was a congressional baseball team practice for a charity game.
Speaker 22 (26:14):
That abruptly turned into a morning of terror.
Speaker 9 (26:18):
The tragic shooting that has shocked the country, an attack
on a Republican congressman practicing baseball this morning in Virginia.
Several new developments tonight. The newest, President Trump and the
First Lady visiting in the hospital the critically wounded House
Majority Whip Steve Scalise. The president describing the congressman as,
his words, very tough shape.
Speaker 2 (26:38):
Reports of the attempted slaughter of Republicans by a Bernie
Sanders volunteer barely survived a few news cycles. But stunningly,
even after the attack, New York's faux assassination of Trump
continued on, with many arguing that it was simply an
artistic expression. Finally, people had had enough. Journalist Mike Cernovich
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looked to expose the artistic expression argument by announcing a challenge.
Speaker 14 (27:08):
And we're back. Mike Cernovich, Danger and Play.com, World of Mindset.
surprise package let me get this fired up on the
periscopes because this is gonna be lit this is gonna
be lit so you know you know how they have
that shakespeare in the park thing going on now right
well everybody has told me that all art should be
(27:30):
allowed and all art you know we should do art
so i think that we should do a little bit
of art so here's my idea There are going to
be three more showings of the assassination art project of
Donald Trump, three more assassination planes. So what I need
you to do is I need you to get tickets
to the play. I need you all to get tickets.
If you're in New York and know anybody in New York,
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I need people to get tickets to the play where
Trump is assassinated. And I need you to get up
with either a CNN is ISIS prize or Bill Clinton's
a rapist or the media is terrorism. And if you're
able to get up and be escorted out by security,
then I will give you $ 1, 000. So $ 1, 000 to everybody.
(28:16):
If you can show up to this play where Trump is,
because this is art, this is performance art. And I
realize now because everybody in the art world is defending
the Trump assassination play. Well, this is art. Mike Cernovich
is showing art.
Speaker 2 (28:31):
On June 16th, 2017, Laura Loomer acquired a ticket.
Speaker 5 (28:37):
So I went to the play and I ended up
getting a ticket and it was a front row seat.
And I decided that someone had to take a stand.
So during the assassination scene, I stood up and I
stormed the stage and I ran onto the stage. Stop
the normalization of political violence against the right.
Speaker 6 (28:54):
This is unacceptable.
Speaker 23 (28:55):
You cannot promote this type of violence against the right.
Speaker 16 (28:59):
We're going to pause.
Speaker 6 (29:00):
We're not going to pause.
Speaker 5 (29:01):
Yes, we are.
Speaker 2 (29:25):
In effect, Laura showed off her own brand of performance art.
Jack Posobiak, another journalist and Trump supporter, caught the entire
ordeal on camera, then stood up in the crowd and
joined in.
Speaker 24 (29:35):
You are all Goebbels!
Speaker 3 (29:40):
You are all Nazis like Joseph Goebbels!
Speaker 23 (29:43):
This is Goebbels.
Speaker 25 (29:44):
You are all Goebbels.
Speaker 23 (29:46):
You are inciting terrorists.
Speaker 18 (29:48):
The blood of these police is on your hands.
Speaker 7 (29:51):
The blood of these police is on your hands.
Speaker 4 (29:53):
Goebbels would be proud.
Speaker 5 (29:55):
Goebbels would be proud.
Speaker 6 (29:57):
Goebbels would be proud.
Speaker 5 (29:59):
And I interrupted the assassination scene so they couldn't kill
President Trump.
Speaker 6 (30:04):
And it went viral.
Speaker 16 (30:06):
Right.
Speaker 5 (30:06):
Because it was the first time, I think, in history
that a conservative hijacked a left wing event and, you know,
implemented left wing.
Speaker 6 (30:15):
Tactics against the left.
Speaker 5 (30:17):
And so it kind of switched the tables and it
really shocked a lot of people. And it forced the
media to basically, you know, open up a discussion about
political violence against the right.
Speaker 21 (30:30):
Protester was arrested in Central Park last night after she
interrupted a controversial staging of Julius Caesar, which stars a
Trump lookalike.
Speaker 26 (30:44):
The shooting of Congressman Scalise provoked a protest during a
performance of Julius Caesar. An activist stormed the stage in
New York Shakespeare in the park last night, while another
shouted from the audience.
Speaker 2 (30:55):
Laura was arrested, but then was quickly released. By the
next morning, she literally became an overnight sensation.
Speaker 5 (31:03):
I gained like 40 to 50,000 followers in one night.
I was all over like every single publication, every single newspaper.
The New York Post, Fox News, CNN.
Speaker 6 (31:13):
I mean, everywhere.
Speaker 22 (31:14):
Well, New York Shakespeare and the Paw continued their production
of Julius Caesar, which depicts the killing of a Trump
lookalike every single night. Now, the show did close last
night as planned, but my next guest felt she had
to do something about the depiction of violence against our president.
So during Friday evening's performance, Laura Loomer staged... stormed the stage,
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interrupting the performance, denouncing the depiction of violence against the right,
and following the interruption, Loomer was in fact arrested by
the NYPD. She joins us now to explain why she
did this. Laura, welcome to the program. Thanks for being
with us.
Speaker 5 (31:47):
Thanks so much for having me, Sean. And that's kind
of the event that really set everything off for what
I do now.
Speaker 1 (31:55):
Laura's approach was simple. Use the left's tactics against them.
Although jarring to many traditional conservatives, The strategy seemed appropriate,
almost necessary for the time. Trump supporters were frequently getting
beaten bloody. An entire team of GOP politicians just days
earlier had almost been slaughtered. The public was becoming desensitized
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to violence against the right. If that wasn't the time
to take a stand on the issue, when was? But
perhaps signaling future conflicts, a few conservatives actually spoke out
against Laura's brand of performance art.
Speaker 27 (32:31):
Joining us from Los Angeles, we have veteran-in-chief of DailyWire.com,
syndicated columnist Ben Shapiro. Over the weekend, he criticized these
protests from the right, saying they adopt the tactics from
the left.
Speaker 15 (32:45):
I've spent my career opposing idiot snowflakery. You know, I
go around and I speak at places like Cal State
Los Angeles, and there's a near riot there. I go
and speak at University of Wisconsin. People try to storm
the stage, and I've always said... This kind of stuff
is not free speech when you're trying to censor somebody
else's free speech. And then the right does it. And shockingly,
there are members of the right, mainstream members of the right,
who says, well, you know, this is just turnabout as
fair play. Well, no, if it's wrong when the left
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does it, it's wrong when you do it.
Speaker 1 (33:07):
But their argument was flawed. No one's free speech was hindered.
The play wasn't shut down. The protest was nonviolent. So
comparing Laura's performance art to campus riots was like comparing
facts with feelings. And given the context of the time,
it wasn't snowflakery either. Violence against Trump supporters wasn't hypothetical.
It was actually happening.
Speaker 5 (33:27):
Often.
Speaker 1 (33:28):
And it was being normalized. Ironically, just a year later,
the media was arguing Trump's mere words were inciting violence.
Speaker 27 (33:37):
Again, yesterday we told you about the warning from President
Trump to evangelicals that there would be violence if Republicans
lose the midterms. He told religious leaders during a closed-door
dinner on Monday night that his opponents are violent people
who will overturn the gains made during his administration quickly
and violently. What do you make of the president of
(33:59):
the United States? Really, is he predicting or is he inciting?
Speaker 1 (34:04):
Any reasonable person would agree that a dramatized bloody knifing
of the president was a bit more direct incitement than
mere words. But regardless of what the chatter class was saying,
whether you agreed with Laura's beliefs or not, whether you
admired her tactics or despised them, there was one unmistakable truth.
At the ripe old age of 24, Laura Loomer had arrived.
Speaker 5 (34:26):
But people always tried to tell me that my big
ideas were not possible. Like when I was in college
and like the journalism professor asked what people wanted to do,
I said that I wanted to be like, you know,
a prominent conservative journalist and, you know, be very well
(34:47):
known and, you know, just kind of become like one
of these like notorious figures on the right.
Speaker 6 (34:56):
And I was told, oh, that's never going to happen, right?
Like you can't do things like that.
Speaker 5 (35:00):
Like when I had the script and O'Keefe said, oh,
that's not going to happen. It just says in my head,
I think, oh, well, watch me, right? And when you're
constantly told that you can't do something or that something
isn't possible, right?
Speaker 6 (35:15):
It just makes you want to do it even more.
Speaker 5 (35:18):
And so I think I kind of just developed the
attitude that I wasn't going to let anybody tell me
what I could and couldn't do or people define my
limitations or set my boundaries.
Speaker 6 (35:28):
And I never took no for an answer.
Speaker 5 (35:30):
And so I would just kind of do these things
that people thought were impossible.
Speaker 1 (35:34):
So she went out to make the impossible a reality.
Speaker 5 (35:39):
I had told a friend of mine, yeah, I'm going
to go to Hillary's book signing tomorrow and I'm going
to walk right up to her and confront her and
put my cell phone in her face. I said, oh,
you're never going to do that. You'll never get past
her security.
Speaker 6 (35:49):
No way in hell. Hi, it's so great to see you. Well,
it's great for you to be here. Thanks for having me.
Speaker 23 (35:56):
So the American people would really like to know, what
happened to your 33,000 emails?
Speaker 22 (36:01):
What happened in Benghazi?
Speaker 6 (36:03):
Go read the book.
Speaker 28 (36:03):
What happened to the millions of dollars that was supposed
to go to the people in Haiti?
Speaker 2 (36:07):
You know what?
Speaker 6 (36:08):
I'm so sorry. You believe things that are untrue.
Speaker 1 (36:11):
She pressed Las Vegas law enforcement to correct the details
of the mass shooting.
Speaker 7 (36:15):
Her confrontational style was even given a name.
Speaker 1 (36:26):
The people she confronted got loomered.
Speaker 17 (36:28):
Conservative journalist Laura Loomer stood up, as many media people
do whenever public figures show up, and started shouting questions
at James Comey.
Speaker 28 (36:40):
How is it ethical to brief the president of the
United States on an unverifiable and salacious dossier? And how
is it ethical leadership to not tell him that his
political opposition, Hillary Clinton, paid for that?
Speaker 6 (36:53):
You are not an ethical leader. Ma'am, you're going to
have to leave. You're going to get prosecuted, Comey.
Speaker 16 (36:59):
You're going to get locked up.
Speaker 24 (37:00):
Comey, you're going to get locked up.
Speaker 17 (37:02):
That was, again, Laura Loomer. I mean, you have to
know that that question is right out of my heart.
And so she's telling anybody and everybody, be what you
want to be, be the best you can be, and
you can do it. Don't listen to people who tell
you you can't do it. That's ever so true, folks.
Speaker 1 (37:16):
She confronted Twitter CEO Jack Dorsey.
Speaker 6 (37:19):
You are lying about censoring conservatives.
Speaker 7 (37:21):
You are caught on tape by Project Veritas.
Speaker 6 (37:24):
Shadow banning people. You are censoring people. You censored me.
You censored Milo. You censored Chuck Johnson. James O'Keefe.
Speaker 28 (37:30):
You even censored President Trump when one of your employees
deleted his account for a few minutes.
Speaker 6 (37:35):
You are censoring conservatives.
Speaker 7 (37:36):
And I'm asking you, President Donald Trump, help us.
Speaker 6 (37:39):
Please help us, Mr.
Speaker 7 (37:40):
President, before it is too late.
Speaker 5 (37:42):
Because Jack Dorsey is trying to influence the election.
Speaker 17 (37:45):
She's also saying that people are accusing her of acting
like a liberal. And her reaction or answer to that was, no, no, no,
I'm not going to go liberal. Liberals don't ask tough questions.
Speaker 1 (37:55):
Even actress Alyssa Milano wasn't spared. Laura called her out
for her support of the leader of the Women's March,
Linda Sarsour.
Speaker 5 (38:01):
My question is, will you please disavow her because she
is advocating for Sharia law.
Speaker 27 (38:04):
She's not.
Speaker 3 (38:05):
She's not.
Speaker 6 (38:06):
She's not. But thank you so much for your question.
Speaker 1 (38:11):
No one was safe from being rumored. Alyssa Milano was wrong.
The Women's March leader had advocated for Sharia law in
the U.S., an Islamic-based law that subjugates women. Within weeks,
the actress announced she would not be speaking at the
Women's March. At 25 years old, Laura was outperforming her peers.
Her videos were getting hundreds of thousands and sometimes millions
(38:32):
of views. Every conservative outlet was posting her videos and
garnering all the web traffic and pocketing the ad dollars
that came along with it. But she was sensing something.
she began to feel ostracized by a lot of the media.
And that would soon be an important point for Laura.
You see, even after lumering all of these powerful people,
it was the people behind a particular line of questioning
(38:55):
that would mount a sneak attack on her.
Speaker 2 (38:58):
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Speaker 1 (39:12):
Welcome back to Red Pilled America. In late November 2018,
Laura was a bit triggered by something she saw on Twitter.
For months, she'd been aggressively questioning several Muslim activists. She
called out Women's March leader Linda Sarsour for being anti-Semitic.
Speaker 29 (39:27):
Linda, you tweeted that there's nothing creepier than Zionism.
Speaker 6 (39:30):
Okay, can you please leave? Thank you. creepier than Zionism.
Speaker 18 (39:34):
Linda, you're an anti-Semite.
Speaker 6 (39:36):
You called for jihad in the United States. Can you
please leave? It's time for you to leave.
Speaker 1 (39:41):
She also called out two Muslim Democrats for their anti-Semitism
and ties to Linda Sarsour.
Speaker 29 (39:47):
Rashida, are you willing to admit as a congresswoman that
Hamas is a terrorist organization? Then why are you campaigning
with Linda Sarsour who called for jihad against President Trump?
Speaker 6 (39:58):
So that is afforded to all of us.
Speaker 7 (40:00):
What about justice for little girls, Ilan?
Speaker 6 (40:03):
You voted against legislation.
Speaker 23 (40:05):
That would have made FGM a felony.
Speaker 6 (40:08):
Why is she so hateful against Israel?
Speaker 1 (40:10):
Both of the Muslim Democrats ended up winning their elections.
After the election... Twitter posted a Twitter moment on their
site that triggered Laura. A Twitter moment is a slideshow
of multiple tweets that tell a story. In the Twitter
moment was an image of newly elected Congresswoman Ilhan Omar
that celebrated women, LGBTQ, and minorities. So Laura tweeted a
(40:31):
response that read, Isn't.
Speaker 5 (40:33):
It ironic how the Twitter moment used to celebrate women, LGBTQ,
and minorities is a picture of Ilhan Omar? Ilhan is pro-Sharia.
Ilhan is pro-FGM, which is female genital mutilation. Um... And
under Sharia, homosexuals are oppressed and killed. Women are abused
and forced to wear the hijab. Ilhan is anti-Jewish.
Speaker 1 (40:52):
She published the tweet and went on with her day.
But little did she know that according to the Wall
Street Journal, behind the scenes, the Council on American Islamic Relations,
an advocacy organization with ties to many of the Muslims
she was questioning, was lobbying Twitter to have Laura banned
from the site. The day before Thanksgiving, she was in
Florida visiting with family when she got the word.
Speaker 6 (41:13):
So.
Speaker 5 (41:14):
My dad had actually come in to visit me and
I hadn't seen him in like a year. And I
was on my way to a fan meetup because it
was after the Florida election and people wanted to hang out.
I was supposed to go meet up with Roger Stone.
And I'm in the car with my dad and we're
at a red light. And I was about to tweet
out like, Oh, happy Thanksgiving. Well, I log into my
(41:35):
phone and I get this message that said, you've been,
your account has been suspended.
Speaker 6 (41:39):
And I like could not believe it. I literally pulled over.
Speaker 5 (41:42):
On the side of the street and I, sat in
my car, and just could not believe it because it
was shocking to me, right?
Speaker 6 (41:49):
It came with no warning whatsoever.
Speaker 5 (41:50):
I had 265,000 followers, and my entire business model and
everything I did was dependent on Twitter.
Speaker 7 (41:57):
So it just wasn't a very good day.
Speaker 5 (42:01):
I mean, I was pretty much devastated over losing my
biggest platform and just shocked that they didn't even really
give me a reason besides that completely factual tweet about
Ilhan Omar. And.
Speaker 7 (42:13):
It was depressing.
Speaker 1 (42:15):
When she was banned, one of the only big-name conservatives
that came to her defense was writer and entrepreneur Michelle Malkin.
Speaker 10 (42:21):
Twitter booted Loomer, who was Jewish, off its site for
expressing her well-supported opinions, which the social media giant called, quote,
hateful conduct. Loomer has been labeled a, quote, far-right activist
for her mainstream views. If she were a left-wing feminist
who practiced undercover and gonzo journalism to go after Republicans,
(42:45):
she'd be hailed as an innovative disruptor instead of dismissed
by establishment elites on both sides of the political aisle.
Speaker 1 (42:53):
But Michelle Malkin was one of the only big names
with the cojones to come to Laura's defense. All the others,
whose websites have used her videos to draw traffic and
add dollars, were largely silent on her Twitter ban. Yes,
most posted that she was banned from the site. attracting
even more traffic care of Laura. But the faces of
most of these organizations did not come forward and demand
(43:13):
her reinstatement, like the mainstream media came to Jim Acosta's
defense when his permanent White House press pass was revoked
for manhandling a female White House staffer.
Speaker 5 (43:24):
I had 265,000 followers, and my entire business model and
everything I did was dependent on Twitter.
Speaker 1 (43:30):
Laura isn't independent. She doesn't have a salary. She just
creates content and hopes that people come to her to
support her work. After being banned from Twitter, she took
to Facebook to inform the public on what happened.
Speaker 7 (43:41):
Everything I said is 100% true and factual.
Speaker 6 (43:44):
It's not malicious. It's not mean. It's not hateful.
Speaker 5 (43:47):
And so now in America, if you're a journalist like
myself that reports on issues of counterterrorism or anti-Semitism or
political issues like I have, you're not allowed to report
the truth anymore or else you're going to be suspended.
I just had my Twitter account suspended permanently.
Speaker 6 (44:01):
265,000 followers suspended.
Speaker 1 (44:07):
She went through Thanksgiving a bit down, but that changed quickly.
Speaker 9 (44:12):
We don't always have enough time to cover all of
the recent news, so here with a recap is one
of our writers, Amber Ruffin, in a segment we call
Amber Says What.
Speaker 16 (44:20):
You guys!
Speaker 24 (44:23):
Things have been crazy!
Speaker 25 (44:25):
Something hilarious happened. A super far-right woman named Laura Loomer
got banned from Twitter and then handcuffed herself to Twitter
headquarters to protest. And I was like, she's going to
get in so much trouble.
Speaker 5 (44:37):
Hello, everybody.
Speaker 7 (44:38):
My name is Laura Loomer.
Speaker 24 (44:39):
I'm a conservative investigative journalist. and today I'm here at
Twitter in New York City to talk to you.
Speaker 23 (44:50):
About social media censorship and the double standard that exists
here at Twitter. Jack Dorsey at Twitter banned my account
permanently on November 21st.
Speaker 24 (45:01):
I am a conservative Jewish journalist and I.
Speaker 6 (45:05):
Was reporting facts.
Speaker 1 (45:10):
The woman banned from Twitter became the top trending topic
on Twitter. Laura Loomer can't help but make the news.
Which brings us back to the question, why don't conservative
elites protect their own? The answer is simple. Conservative elites
want to fit in with the ruling class. Trump supporters
happen to be the favorite punching bags of our ruling class,
(45:30):
on both sides of the political aisle. Any chance to
throw them under the bus secures their place in that
prestigious society. Destroying Trump supporters ensures their continued appearances on
cable TV, guarantees invites to popular cocktail parties, and secures
campaign contributions from the deep-pocketed donors, especially Silicon Valley. Laura
(45:51):
Loomer is unabashedly a Trump supporter, whose tough questions made
her some powerful enemies. By not coming to her aid,
the elites on both sides of the aisle sent a
message to the world. Tread lightly, or you may be next.
Whether you like Laura or not, there is no question
that she's a media prodigy that has made conservative outlets
(46:14):
a ton of money. They happily pocketed the ad revenue
generated by the web traffic she created, but remain unopinionated
on the critical blow to her financial business model. Middle
America is watching as Trump's most talented supporters are taken
out one by one. The sharpest watchers are no doubt
beginning to think conservatism isn't so good at conserving.
Speaker 11 (46:36):
These kids wore the MAGA hats. Do you think they'll
ever want to read National Review after you look at
the way National Review simply accepted all the left's premises?
So that basically the bastion of conservatism turns out to
be Kathy Griffin with a few more three syllable words.
What's the point of American conservatism if they just accept
(46:59):
all the left's premises when it comes to this evil
Twitter feasting?
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