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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Some of the joys.
Speaker 2 (00:02):
I'm a homegirl that knows a little bit about everything
and everybody.
Speaker 1 (00:06):
You know, if you don't lie about that, right, Lauren
can't even ht Hey, y'all was up.
Speaker 2 (00:11):
It's Laura l Rosa and this is another episode of
the Latest with Laura l Rosa. This is your Delli
Dig on all things pop culture, entertainment, news, and all
of the conversations that shake the room.
Speaker 3 (00:22):
Baby.
Speaker 2 (00:24):
Now today we are going to skip the behind the
scenes of the grind check in because there is breaking
news literally that has been breaking for the last twenty
four hours, in the case of Carmelo Anthony. Now Carmelo Anthony,
you guys may be familiar with this case, not in
relation to Carmelo Anthony, the basketball player. Carmelo Anthony, at
the time of the story being first reported, was a
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seventeen year old track athlete from Texas who was charged
with murder after a stabbing of another seventeen year old
boy from a track team that was opposite a rival
Carmelo Anthony track team. Now, this case, which has you know,
went from being a local incident between two high school
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teens and has spread to a nationwide story that is
now questioning race self defense is a widespread conversation. So
here's the background information before we talk about the fact
that Carmela Anthony, who is now nineteen years old, was
sentenced to murder and is facing from anywhere from five
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years to ninety nine years behind bars. So for background,
if you are not following this case, some details. So
back in April of twenty twenty five, police responded to
an incident around ten am at a local stadium. This
stadium was housing a ton of different high school athletes
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who were running track. They were there for a University
Interscholastic League district championship of some sort. So at this
championship there were various high school tints that were set up.
It's a rainy day, you know, the weather's not the best,
uh So a bunch of different students are under attents
for their different high schools. And here's what it is
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alleged to have happened. Because under the one of the
tents is where the stabbing took place. So what is
alleged to have happened is Carmelo Anthony went under a
tent of an opposing high school.
Speaker 3 (02:27):
There was a kid at.
Speaker 2 (02:29):
The time named Austin Metcliffe from that other high school
that approached Carmelo Anthony and told him along with several
other kids. I've seen reports that say up to twenty
kids were surrounding in this tent. I've seen various numbers though,
but specifically and for sure, there was an exchange of
words between Austin Metcliffe and Carmelo Anthony. The exchange of
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words was Austin allegedly telling Carmelo Anthony that he could
not be under the tent that needed to move. Carmelo
Anthony refused to move, its raining he's.
Speaker 3 (03:06):
Under the tent. He's not wanting to move.
Speaker 2 (03:07):
And there were students who testified throughout this trial that
one student being under another student's tent, like you know,
if you go to one high school and you go
under the high school of another tent, that wasn't unheard of.
There were some coaches who testified that even though that
wasn't unheard of, it was common. You know, once a
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student is asked to leave and go back to their
tent and go or just leave the tent because they're
under a different school's tent, that it wouldn't have been
like an issue. But this unfolded completely differently because Austin
Metcliffe ended up dead at the end of this altercation.
So Carmelo Anthony is actually the tent. He, according to
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what you know his team has presented throughout this case
in court, felt like the way that he was approached
was aggressive, that he was, you know, being pressed to
leave this tent, and that he needed to defend himself. Now,
there are students, a couple of students who did testify
on the stand that they saw Austin Metcliffe, who was
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the student that first approached Krmela Anthony, shove Carmelo Anthony.
Speaker 3 (04:18):
Once the shove happened.
Speaker 2 (04:19):
There are other students who alleged that they heard Carmelo
Anthony say, you know, touch me, or prior to the
shove happening, that they heard Carmelo Anthony say touch me
and see what happens. And there was a backpack of
some sort that Carmelo Anthony had. Again these are high
school students that Carmela Anthony had, and there was a
knife in the backpack.
Speaker 3 (04:39):
So there are.
Speaker 2 (04:40):
Students who then say that Anthony Medcliffe shoved Carmelo Anthony
and from there Anthony Medcliffe was stabbed by Carmelo Anthony. Now,
Carmelo Anthony's team, his family, from his father, his mother,
everyone has you know, tintos down from the very beginning
bet that he was not the aggressor in this situation
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and also that.
Speaker 3 (05:05):
He was acting in self defense.
Speaker 2 (05:07):
Now in court, prosecutors on the other side argued that
even if you know, this were self defense, a shove
shouldn't have been responded to with the stabbing of a knife. Now,
the knife that Carmelo Anthony had was not illegal in Texas.
There are laws that are being pointed at that. You know,
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the knife that Karmela Anthony had in the size of
it was legal, although they did have people testify from
the school or from the various schools that were you know,
present at this match and other matches like this, that
there would have been no need for him to have it. However,
Carmelo Anthony and his family are saying that he was
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in fear and that is what he responded to. Now
in this case has also picked up a lot of attention.
I mentioned race in the beginning. Carmelo Anthony is a
black young man and Austin Matcliffe is a white young man. Now,
other issue of race played out here when it came
to the jury selection, because there were no black people
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on the jury, even though there were people of.
Speaker 3 (06:13):
Color on the jury.
Speaker 2 (06:14):
So there were eleven women and seven men on the jury,
so eighteen jurors and nobody black. There were people of color,
but everybody else was white. I mean, and you can
just understand how that looks, how that feels. There's actually
I mean, if you just take out how it looks,
how it feels, and the fact that it just doesn't
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feel fair, and we'll get into what a jury of
your peers actually means, because that's the burden that a
court has to meet is by providing if it's a
jury trial, a jury of your peers. So we'll talk
about that definition in a second. But you know, you
have this young black boy who is on trial for
a murder of someone that he is saying happened in
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so defense. And the biggest call out here is the
fact that there are no people that immediately look like
him and understand the safety pressures and safety thinking that
he is trained by as a young black boy growing
up in this world in this society. So of course
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that raised major eyebrows and has been a conversation and
the topic of this case. You know, since that jury
selection happened, but we talked a bit about, you know,
jury of your peers. Right now, a lot of people
are like, you know, jury of your peers is supposed
to be fair, and all these things I learned when
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I was doing the the Diddy trial and also when
I cover Tory Lanes and make the Stallion's trial, that
a jury of your peers is not always does not
always mean racially equal. So a jury of your peers
means a criminal defendants constitutional right to an impartial jury
selected from a fair cross section of the local community.
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It does not mean the jury will share your exact demographic, profession,
or age. Rather, it guarantees that jewors are your fellow
ordinary citizens. So the peer definition in the US legal system,
peers refers to the general public residing within the same
state or judicial district where the crime was allegedly committed.
Speaker 3 (08:22):
Now, I think.
Speaker 2 (08:23):
For a lot of us when we hear jury of
our peers, especially if you're a black person, you're like, yo,
where's the black people?
Speaker 3 (08:29):
Now?
Speaker 2 (08:29):
There were a few black people that were struck from
the joy selection process before his jury was actually selected.
But the court made it clear that because of course,
his team pointed out the fact that yo, y'all are
getting rid of all of the black Durwors like that
is a problem here. The court said that they struck
the Black Jewers because the Black Jewors were teachers or
work with students, which because this was based on people
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who work with students, they weren't able to be on
the jury. Now today, you know, the news in this
case is really really sad because, I mean, now you
have this young boy who, by the way, did not
take the stand, Carmelo Anthony, never took the stand for himself.
Carmelo Anthony, who's now nineteen. Right at the time of
the incident, he was seventeen. There's a Texas law that
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allows seventeen year olds to be tried as adults. So
he faces a sentence ranging from that five years to
that ninety nine years if convicted.
Speaker 3 (09:22):
Now, okay, so he was found guilty.
Speaker 2 (09:25):
His mother gets up in front of the court and
she's the only person that testifies at this point of
the trial for him and what they call the sentence
in part of the trial, and she from all reports
of people who you know, have sources that were inside
of the courthouse was pleading for her son's life. I mean,
I cannot imagine now here is a local news report,
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you know, from a local affiliate that had a person
present in the courtroom when Carmelo Anthony's mother, Miss Kayla
Hay stood up in tears shaking to plead for mercy
for her son's life.
Speaker 3 (09:59):
Let's take a lisk.
Speaker 1 (10:00):
I just got some notes from our local reporter who
is inside the courtroom. So when that guilty verdict was read,
I'm told that Carmelo Anthony was crying, he was shaking.
His defense attorney kept his arm around his shoulders the
entire time. And also I'm told that Alston Metcalf's twin
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brother Hunter. This was the first time he was inside
the courtroom when that guilty verdict was read. I'm told
it was really emotional from both sides after that murder verdict.
And as for what's next, Will now, it's the sentencing phase.
He is charged with murder, so he could face up
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to life in prison, the same exact jur they're the
ones who decide how long he remains behind bars, and
that's what the sentencing phase in and that sentencing phase
is that reporter inside the courtroom tells me that Carmelo
Anthony's mother he has already she's already taken the sand.
Speaker 3 (11:00):
This is a.
Speaker 1 (11:00):
Direct quote she said, quote. He is my oldest, my
first born, my baby. I loved him very much. I'm
told that she had Misscara running down her face and
asked the jury, quote, please have mercy on my son.
And then the prosecutor sort of cross examined her and said,
isn't it true you could still have a relationship with
your son while he's behind bar. So this is sort
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of the next phase right now. The jury's going to
decide how long he is behind barscore and they're going
to call some character witnesses, including his mom that you
just heard from. And I'll step by the way, I
mean outside here, outside the courtroom. We've been expecting this
will but about one hundred Carmelo Anthony protesters it erupted
out here. At least one person was detained after they
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read that guilty verdict. And as you can see, it
is all hands on deck when it comes to the
sheriff's office. They prepared for this. There's been barriers out
here and really.
Speaker 2 (11:55):
I'man and it's crazy one split second, the way that
it is change both of these young men's life. Because
one person's life was taken, one person is about to
be in jail for you know, his life is going
down too for prosecutors and pushing back. As Kramela Anthony's
mom is breaking down in front of the court, they
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asked her if she had love for her son still
and she says, you know, yes, regardless of what happened,
you realize that, you realize he will still get to
be a part of your life.
Speaker 3 (12:27):
And she replied yes she did.
Speaker 2 (12:30):
And again she was the only witness to take the
stand for the defense in the sentencing thus far. So
the actual sentencing is to come, and the way that
the sentencing works is that they'll have people come and
they'll read various things or make, you know, make various
statements to try and plead for the court to take
it easy in this sentencing. Now, the jury did have
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the ability to take it a bit easy, and they
decided not to the jury to deliberated for less than
three hours, which I mean less than three hours on
a deliberation that means that they were very sold on
what they heard by all of the witnesses and the
you know, the cross examinations that didn't convince them. Like,
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I don't know, man, I just I feel so bad
for these young kids.
Speaker 3 (13:18):
Who are caught up in all of this.
Speaker 2 (13:21):
First of all, you don't want to see no black
young men caught up in no system.
Speaker 3 (13:24):
You just don't.
Speaker 2 (13:25):
We all know, like before this even begin, you knew like, okay,
white family, black young boy.
Speaker 3 (13:34):
I mean, right is right, wrong is wrong?
Speaker 2 (13:35):
And I understand that people are arguing that, but like
when you add an all white or non black jewelry right,
because they're going to point to people of color. M h,
I mean what like it's this is this is tough
because it's like you a loss of life is a
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loss of life at the end of the day as
well too. But you just you, you, you just never
want to see it on both sides. You never want
to see a young black man caught up in the
system because of a split moment at all in general,
having to explain self defense nothing. You never want to
see it. And you also never want to see a
kid's life taken before you know they've even gotten to
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live their life at all. So this is just a
sad case all around. Yeah, and we'll just have to
keep you guys updated. I do plan on speaking to
a civil rights activist from a organization that I'll get
more into in the following episode. So I'll be speaking
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to a civil rights activist from an organization that has
been on the ground supporting this case, bringing light to
this case, giving the family a platform of cremelo anthony,
and speaking about just a racial you know, disparities that
are I mean, it's it's on his face here right,
like it's easy to see.
Speaker 3 (14:59):
So there are.
Speaker 2 (15:00):
Allegation is that the DA in this case, the judge
and Austin Metcalffs Austin Metcalf's dad, all knew each other
prior to this case. So people are also pointing and
calling that out, and you know, and look, there's a
criminal justice system here that can appeal and appeal and appeal.
But it's tough for us. Let's be honest, it is.
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I just I feel for this family. I feel for
the loss of life as well too. But I just
remember what I was doing at the ages of seventeen
and nineteen and how young I was, and just oh
my God, God bless them, God bless them.
Speaker 3 (15:43):
So we'll be back with more.
Speaker 2 (15:44):
Updates as this develops, and again I'll be bringing you
guys that interview with a very special source close.
Speaker 3 (15:54):
To the case.
Speaker 2 (15:56):
Who has been again just on the front line and
fighting to make sure that this case was heard all over,
a guy named Dominique Alexander from National Action Generational Network.
Speaker 3 (16:11):
Yeah, so we'll be back with that. Make sure you
guys say tuned. It's Lorla Rosa.
Speaker 2 (16:15):
I tell you guys all the time that you could
be anywhere with anybody talking about all of the things, but.
Speaker 3 (16:20):
You guys choose to be right here with me.
Speaker 2 (16:21):
I don't know if you guys could tell with this
was a tough one for me to talk about. It's
just so it breaks my heart to see young black
people caught up in things like this. It breaks my
heart to see young people in their lives just here
one day going tomorrow. But we got to get down
to you know, we gotta get down to it. And
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when we get down to it, we'll be investigating more
of some of the racial discrepancies in this case, because
the fact of the matter is is that's what happens
once we as black people are introduced to the systems.
It's not a fair game at that point, so we'll
continue to have these discussions. Make sure you guys check
back here at the latest with Lorna Rosa.
Speaker 3 (16:59):
For that.
Speaker 2 (17:00):
I'm Longa Rosa. I appreciate you guys, my Lowriders, and
I'll catch you in my next episode.