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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Man, it's time for Donkey of the Day. He's a
bunch of donkeys out here the street, Donkey to day
called Donkey of the Day.
Speaker 2 (00:08):
It really caught me off guard.
Speaker 3 (00:09):
You live a life where we might are telling based
off who we made a thing. You never was say anything.
Speaker 1 (00:15):
Too. You are a donkey.
Speaker 3 (00:18):
That is why Charlamagne some donkey to day's just saw
himself on the breakfast club.
Speaker 1 (00:24):
Okay, Charlamagne, we can give a Donkey of the day
too today. You know what, Taylor, you check your next check.
You getting a bony. I know that's right. Drop on
the clue.
Speaker 3 (00:33):
Tail out here, working man, he's doing all these great intros.
Donkey today for Tuesday, June and second goes to Rick Child.
He is a sixty one year old convenience store owner
in Columbia, South Carolina, and yesterday he was found not
guilty of the twenty twenty three shooting of a fourteen
year old named Cyrus Belton, sending healing energy to the
family of Cyrus Belton, RF to that young brother fourteen
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years old shot and killed by Rick Child. The prosecution
and defense, of course, had different stories. Prosecutor said Child
acted in anger because he wrongly thought the teen had
stolen four bottles of water from the store. A defense
lawyer said child fire to defend his only son after
the teen pointed the gun at him.
Speaker 1 (01:10):
Let's go to wis ten for the report.
Speaker 4 (01:11):
Police, Well, emotions are high and the verdict was not
just a shock for the family of Cyrus Carmack Golton,
but also people that have been following this case from
the very beginning.
Speaker 5 (01:22):
A child, a fourteen year old child shot dead in
Richland County, got no justice.
Speaker 4 (01:26):
Cyrus's dad too distraught to speak, but stood beside his attorney,
Todd Rutherford, who says the system has failed this family.
Speaker 1 (01:35):
The anger is palpable tonight.
Speaker 4 (01:37):
You can feel it, you can touch it. He's fifty seven.
Speaker 2 (01:40):
Is still your verdict?
Speaker 4 (01:42):
Earlier, the state argued that the case was about the
value of human life and that Cyrus feared for his
life as Rick Chow and his son chased him out
of the store with a gun. Chile's defense team argued
Chow was defending himself and his son, as Carmack bo
also had a loaded gun on him. Child's son testified
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that he pointed the gun at him, prompting Chow to
shoot him. In the end, the jury sided with the defense.
Rutherford says, while people have the right to be angry
about the verdict, he's encouraging everyone to use their voices
rather than reacting any other way.
Speaker 1 (02:20):
What I can tell you is that this should not
have happened.
Speaker 5 (02:22):
There's an unbelievable situation, but it is one that unfortunately,
we have to deal with as best we can.
Speaker 1 (02:27):
Ooh, now I get it.
Speaker 3 (02:29):
The fourteen year old had a loaded firearm in South Carolina.
I believe you have to be twenty one to purchase
a handgun. If you're eighteen to twenty, state law says
you can legally acquire and possess handguns through private sales
or as a gift from your immediate family. I also
know that the jury found rich child not guilty, and in America,
that's how the legal system works. Well, Donkey of the
Day is an illegal award. Okay, it's a common sense award.
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And common sense tells me, okay, Charlamagne to God the
nod m kelvy that if you're chasing a fourteen year
old child, okay, if prosecutor said child, haste the team
more than one hundred and thirty yards from the store.
Speaker 1 (03:04):
I don't see how that self defense.
Speaker 3 (03:05):
Okay, How are you protecting your son if you're the
one in pursuit.
Speaker 1 (03:09):
Okay.
Speaker 3 (03:10):
According to prosecutor, Cyrus never stole the water, put the
bottles back, ran from the store, and was eventually shot
in the back after a chase.
Speaker 1 (03:17):
I just heard the news report defense.
Speaker 3 (03:18):
I'll get that child was protecting his son because the
teen had a gun and pointed it at him. Hey,
if that happened and you would have pulled your gun
out and defended your son in that scenario, then I
would completely understand. But here's the thing. I don't see
no proof that that happened.
Speaker 1 (03:32):
Okay.
Speaker 3 (03:32):
And if that young man did that and ran away,
why would you run after him?
Speaker 1 (03:36):
Okay. See that's the problem. Too many people want to play.
Speaker 3 (03:39):
Police officer, judge, jury, and in this case, executioner.
Speaker 1 (03:43):
Okay. If you think someone shoplifted, call the cops. Okay.
Speaker 3 (03:47):
If you say this young man pulled a gun on
you and threatened the life for your son, but then
ran away.
Speaker 1 (03:51):
Call the cops. Okay.
Speaker 3 (03:53):
Every situation does not require escalation, and this was clearly
one of those situations.
Speaker 1 (03:57):
Okay. Why I turn a minor dispute into a herman.
Speaker 3 (04:00):
It consequence, nobody should lose their life over something that
could have been handled with a phone called a nine
one one. All Right, being angry doesn't give you the
right to be deputized.
Speaker 1 (04:10):
Okay, you are not the law Rick Child, all right. Hell,
it wouldn't be just about it. They did it either,
all right.
Speaker 3 (04:15):
Just because you think somebody did something wrong doesn't give
you the authority that chased.
Speaker 1 (04:19):
Them down and killed them. Okay.
Speaker 3 (04:21):
And now, multiple witnesses testified that they didn't see anything
in Cyrus Belton's hands and didn't see him point a
gun as he ran from the store. Prosecutors acknowledged the
young man Cyrus Belton had a semi automatic pistol, but
they say it fell on the ground during the chase
and he never threatened anyone with it. I know people
are going to keep talking about the fact this young
man had a pistol but he got chased down and
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shot in the back.
Speaker 1 (04:43):
Okay. I'm not a lawyer, so I'm not gonna sit
here and.
Speaker 3 (04:45):
Act like I know why legally this man Rick Child
got off because to me, honestly, all I see is
a young black man getting shot and killed over a
situation that shouldn't have escalate it to this.
Speaker 1 (04:55):
Okay.
Speaker 3 (04:55):
Sometimes the best thing you can do is let law
enforcement handle it after the fact. Now, I'm a South
Carolina native born and raised that is home, but New
Jersey is my home too, and in New Jersey, Okay,
me and they me discussed this a lot for some reason.
Speaker 1 (05:08):
I don't know why.
Speaker 3 (05:09):
We've discussed this a lot over our lives since we've
known each other. But you generally cannot use deadly force
like shooting a gun against someone who is fleeing, retreating,
or running away.
Speaker 1 (05:20):
Okay.
Speaker 3 (05:20):
The law requires that you only use deadly force if
you reasonably believe it is immediately necessary to prevent death
our serious bodily harm. If an attacker is retreating, the
imminent threat is passed, making the use of deadly force unjustifiable.
Speaker 1 (05:36):
That's New Jersey, okay.
Speaker 3 (05:37):
And under New Jersey's castle doctrine, you do not have
a duty to retreat if you are inside your home,
provided you did not initiate the conflict. However, you still
cannot use deadly force against the intruder, burglar, whatever it is,
if they are turning to flee, are clearly retreating. That's
that's the debate being you've had over the years, because
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I'll be like, bop that.
Speaker 1 (06:00):
Okay, I pop that person, whoever it is. But you
legally can't do that.
Speaker 6 (06:03):
If he's running, you can, If he's leaving, you can.
If it's back towards you, you can't.
Speaker 1 (06:07):
Listen.
Speaker 3 (06:07):
That sounds perfectly rational to me, Okay, I don't know legally. Okay,
sounds legally. That sounds perfectly legal. Now, No, it sounds
rational too if somebody's running away from you, if they're retreating.
Speaker 1 (06:19):
But I get it.
Speaker 2 (06:20):
You come to somebody's house, you know they there. What
are you coming there for?
Speaker 1 (06:25):
Knowing them? Now? I get it. The house is different, though.
Speaker 3 (06:29):
I just don't know how you justified chasing someone down
and shooting them in the back of this young man
had shot your son and you were so full of
raised you went after him. I can understand, but I
can't wrap my mind around this one.
Speaker 1 (06:41):
Okay.
Speaker 3 (06:41):
If somebody can run away from you, then they aren't
an immediate threat to you. Okay, let them go. Water
bottles can be replaced. Human lives cannot. Please give rich
Yild the biggest he hull.
Speaker 2 (06:57):
That sound not guilty.
Speaker 6 (07:00):
Wow, horrible, And I don't understand it because looking at
the case, it says all the witnesses testified that they
didn't see anything in that young man's hand. Yeah, they
didn't see him point of gun, money, ran from the store.
They didn't see any of that.
Speaker 5 (07:13):
I mean, well, he got shot in his back, so
I mean obviously he wasn't he was running away.
Speaker 1 (07:18):
And house is different from a convenience store. Yes, you
know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3 (07:22):
Your convenience store, even if you own it, yo, you
can replace whatever.
Speaker 1 (07:26):
You know. You said this guy water took.
Speaker 5 (07:27):
And then there was four bottles of water. Even if
he did take four bottles of water, but.
Speaker 1 (07:31):
He put it back. He didn't.
Speaker 2 (07:32):
They said he didn't take any.
Speaker 1 (07:33):
Bottles of water.
Speaker 5 (07:34):
But I'm just I'm just saying, even if he did,
you shoot him in the back because he took four
bottles of water.
Speaker 1 (07:39):
That's just that's wow. And if you were scared of
the young man, why would you go running after him?
He was running from you.
Speaker 6 (07:45):
I don't know, all right, all right, that you absolutely well,
thank you for that. Donkey of the day.
Speaker 2 (07:53):
Now. Jess was reading something that she's seen online yesterday.
Speaker 5 (07:56):
Right, Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, so uh they said, we
got audio four or but a woman called off a
wedding where she found her fiance slept with several men
when he was in college. He ended up telling the
truth about it. He ended up telling the but like
why would you, yo, please stop? Why would you wait.
Speaker 1 (08:14):
This long to tell her that?
Speaker 2 (08:16):
You know what I'm saying, Well, that's why I said,
I went to my grave with it.
Speaker 5 (08:19):
But the only reason that would make me tell her
is if yeah, but but if some of the people
that I slept with was gonna tell her, and maybe
he tried to get ahead of it.
Speaker 2 (08:30):
That's the only way that it would come out.
Speaker 5 (08:31):
But like, yo, why like like, why would you tell
her at the proposed to her?
Speaker 2 (08:36):
That's something that you get out the way. That's so
he was gay in college, but not gay anymore.
Speaker 5 (08:40):
He may have been buying college, but yeah, gay, bye college.
Speaker 1 (08:44):
You sleep with several men? Ain't no bye bye bye nothing.
Speaker 5 (08:49):
Yeah, but this was during it, you know he had
you know, he had a phase, you know what I'm saying,
a gay era in college.
Speaker 2 (08:55):
But you know the crazy thing is if.
Speaker 6 (08:56):
It was a man and you found out your woman
had a phase. Women in college.
Speaker 2 (09:01):
Most I think most.
Speaker 3 (09:02):
Dudes because as a whole, okay, you sleep with several men,
you sleep with several men, male off female, Yeah, okay,
I just need to know who's doing to bend it.
Speaker 6 (09:13):
Why she called it off, because that's probably a question
that he didn't answer one O five one.
Speaker 1 (09:17):
So what's the question?
Speaker 2 (09:18):
What's the reason you have to call off an engagement?
Speaker 1 (09:20):
What with me? I never had to engagement? What do
you care about? Who is doing?
Speaker 5 (09:27):
That is not the point because it also depends on
how gay he was, you know what I mean? Like,
it's not if you are doing would you rather be
the one taking it?
Speaker 4 (09:36):
No?
Speaker 1 (09:36):
I think it's just a lot of women. I think.
Speaker 3 (09:38):
I think in this era it's a lot more women
who have been in these situations, a lot more finding
out that these men are playing on the other shi.
Speaker 5 (09:46):
You know, I'm just glad that he did tell her.
Speaker 6 (09:48):
Let's if you heard if this situation, situation, this situation
happened to you, what would you do or if you've
been in this situation, let's discuss eight five eight.
Speaker 1 (09:58):
Five one oh five one.
Speaker 6 (09:59):
In Charlemagne, I swear on everything I will fight you
if you come back to work with your heel sticking
out of your socks like it's offensive on Netflix.
Speaker 1 (10:09):
And now like you come on to me, like why
do you have, like.
Speaker 2 (10:12):
You a whole hole in your sock. I can see
the bottom of your damn hill. And that was the
same sock he had on last week. He does not
have socks, y'all.
Speaker 6 (10:20):
I'm gonna buy some cash.
Speaker 1 (10:25):
It's the Breakfast Club.
Speaker 3 (10:26):
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