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May 5, 2026 102 mins

Today on The Breakfast Club, Isaiah Rashad Talks 'It's Been Awful,' M.O.M, Sobriety & Career Journeys, Sexuality; Sex-Tape Leak. And Zuri Hall On Covering The Met Gala, Finding Her Voice In Media. Shanti Das Talks ‘Silence The Shame’ Day, Navigating Grief, The Importance Of Funding Mental Health Initiatives. Plus, Charlamagne Gives Donkey of The Day To Domino's Delivery Driver Who Hits Customer With Car For Not Leaving Him A Tip. Listen for more! 

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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Wake you up, Wake up, wake up program you alarm.

Speaker 2 (00:04):
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Speaker 1 (00:07):
Good morning in.

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Speaker 1 (00:15):
Ess is out Lawrence Yaoh, what's up Laura? Good morning
show the God Peace to the plane. It is Tuesday.

Speaker 4 (00:22):
How y'all feel out there? I feel blessed, Black and
Holly favorite.

Speaker 1 (00:25):
Happy to be.

Speaker 5 (00:25):
Here another day to serve about beautiful listeners. Good morning,
good morning. How you feeling greeny?

Speaker 1 (00:29):
You're all green?

Speaker 6 (00:30):
I feel good. This feels so good outside. I love
the warm weather.

Speaker 1 (00:33):
It's beautiful outside. Did you go out last night?

Speaker 6 (00:35):
I did not.

Speaker 7 (00:36):
I actually fell asleep and it was it was. That
was all she wrote for me.

Speaker 1 (00:39):
That was it? Yes, a rap.

Speaker 8 (00:40):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (00:40):
Did you at least watch the mc gallen You know
I did.

Speaker 7 (00:42):
I watched it full, of course I did. I watched
the full MEC gala and worked on some things, and
you know, we wanna have a good show.

Speaker 1 (00:48):
That you didn't get invited.

Speaker 7 (00:50):
I did not feel bad. I didn't feel bad because
I know if I'm not there this year. If it's
meant to be next year, okay, we'll be you know
what I mean. I'm walking into where I'm supposed to
be gracefully. But I think we got enough to will
be able to talk about it. And I got to
go see Devil Words Prouty yesterday was that.

Speaker 6 (01:05):
It was amazing. I love that movie. We talked about it.

Speaker 4 (01:07):
You want to be in the fashion industry so bad
one way or another, not really if you can't get
into the megal.

Speaker 6 (01:15):
Actually, first of all, I thought about you.

Speaker 5 (01:18):
I thought about you last night because they had like
a little fan cage with all the fans were screaming.

Speaker 1 (01:21):
I was like, why would I got that screaming because
you could.

Speaker 5 (01:25):
Have been out there with the like you could have
been with the mic out.

Speaker 7 (01:28):
Never that serious, No, no, MBMV loved that both of
y'all to play with me.

Speaker 6 (01:32):
But Envy starting it off this morning.

Speaker 1 (01:34):
I'm sorry, It's never that serious.

Speaker 4 (01:35):
I'm sorry I will say this though, but I could
give a damn the bad guy. But you know, I
do like about the Megala, all the money they raised
for that damn museum, because I'd be sitting there thinking like, damn,
how can we raise that kind of money for like
the International African American Museum, you know in Charlta, South Carolina,
and all the other museums that are preserving black history.

Speaker 1 (01:53):
Million dollars.

Speaker 7 (01:54):
I think they said that their method get a lot
of the big black celebrities there.

Speaker 4 (01:58):
You know, they're not gonna come, you know, good and
damn well they bare to you know when they come
to support their own you know, it's not the same
level of it.

Speaker 1 (02:07):
But you know, validation. They always think white ice is cold.

Speaker 7 (02:09):
But you know, it's a lot of the designers that
are paying for those tables. So you got like the
couture fashion houses, and they.

Speaker 4 (02:16):
As I know, probably don't see the value in the
African American museums all over the country. That's what I'm
simply saying. No knocking nobody who was there. I'm just
simply saying, forty one million dollars is a lot of money.
That's what I'll be thinking about it. I'm like, damn,
they raised forty one million dollars for that museum. I'm
thinking about the business, the economics of it. I know,
you know Halloween costumes they be wearing.

Speaker 1 (02:34):
Yeah, sure will break that day.

Speaker 5 (02:36):
We'll find out who was on the red carpet, who
was there, whose outfit was the best, the outfit wasn't
the besket Well, we'll talk about all that.

Speaker 1 (02:41):
Even next Thursday.

Speaker 4 (02:42):
I'm I'm being honest at the Food Bank. You know,
here in New York City, they have a gala. I
know they're not about to raise though forty one million dollars.
You know, that's my point.

Speaker 6 (02:53):
All these celebrities are here.

Speaker 5 (02:55):
My point, even all the celebrities here, because so many
people fly in just for that gallop. I'm sure most
of the people are not from New York that went
to the metgala last night. But we'll break down. The
meg gallon in the Metropolitan.

Speaker 4 (03:06):
Museum of Art is cool, but you know you can't
eat no paintings, right right, people can't eat no paintings.
That's all I'm saying. And their history is not under
attack the way our is is. That's right, That's all
I'm saying.

Speaker 1 (03:18):
Okay, we got to help, we gotta support all because.

Speaker 4 (03:20):
I would love to know how much of that forty
one million dollars came from a black people.

Speaker 1 (03:23):
But do a galloon.

Speaker 5 (03:24):
Let's let's let's do a gallon and let's let's get
people to come on in and raise some money.

Speaker 1 (03:29):
Sure, he said, sure, all right.

Speaker 4 (03:31):
You know who does a good job of that to though,
The Reform Alliance when they do their uh and the
thing they do in Atlantic City.

Speaker 6 (03:36):
Every year, Oh the big uh.

Speaker 5 (03:40):
Yes, yes, yeah, yeah, yah yah yeah yeah with Jay
and Mike Rubin. Yeah, they did a lot of money.

Speaker 1 (03:44):
Yes they do, absolutely they do.

Speaker 6 (03:47):
It's called the Reform galle line.

Speaker 5 (03:48):
I think, I don't know what yeah, yeah, but yeah,
they do that Atlantic City each and over year. They
raise a lot of money as well. All right, let's
get the show cracking. Isaiah Richard will be joining us.

Speaker 1 (03:55):
Man.

Speaker 4 (03:56):
He's got a new album called It's Been Awful and
that title is very fitting because he's had.

Speaker 1 (04:00):
A rough five years.

Speaker 4 (04:01):
You know, he had a while five years personally because
you know, he's a dope artist. But five years ago
somebody leaked the sex tape of him and it was
him with a bunch.

Speaker 1 (04:10):
Of guys, A bunch of guys. I think a few
guys on there, right.

Speaker 6 (04:13):
I just remember him and one person. I don't know.

Speaker 1 (04:16):
Maybe I know the guys there, I.

Speaker 6 (04:18):
Do, while I just know what's him and a person
of that.

Speaker 4 (04:24):
Okay, you say it was like a bunch of guys
on the table. He was participant. Okay, all right now. Also,
Shanty Dos will be joining us today. Is Silence the Shame, Yes,
it is, so we'll be talking to her as well.
Silence the Shame is an amazing organization. They are dispelling
the negative stigmas arounding mental health. And they talked to
you about well, she talks to you. Shanty talks to
you about why it's important to understand your mental health

(04:45):
for your overall wellness.

Speaker 1 (04:45):
That's right. And also Zuri Hall will be joining us.

Speaker 5 (04:48):
Of course, she was on the red carpet last night,
so she's gonna be breaking down all the fits, all
the behind the scenes footage and everything that happened at
the Met Gallery to.

Speaker 4 (04:55):
Get somebody that was at the Met Galley's been invited
for years.

Speaker 1 (04:58):
Wow, red car Wow, maybe could be an assistant next year.

Speaker 7 (05:01):
That's not a knock at me. That's a knock at
how they don't value this outlet.

Speaker 1 (05:05):
That's not true.

Speaker 6 (05:06):
It's all about the outlet. It's all about the outlet.

Speaker 7 (05:09):
TMZ would TMZ would never be invited to something like
TMZ would never, ever, ever, ever, like they would never
allow a TMZ camera inside of a mecgala carpet period.

Speaker 1 (05:19):
I think it's you. Well, no, let's get the show.

Speaker 6 (05:22):
It's kind of me.

Speaker 5 (05:25):
Right, girls, Girls, Girls, Girls show. Today is Chris Brown's birthday.
It's only right we started with some Chris Brown.

Speaker 1 (05:33):
It's the breakfast Club. Good morning.

Speaker 5 (05:34):
Everybody is DJ Envy, Jess Hilarious, Chelamaine the Goud. We
are the breakfast Club. Let's get in some front page news.
Now me and he's having some technical difficulty, should be
checking in the second. But let's start off with some
quick sports. Now, last night, Philly, what happened last night Philly?
The next week, the seventy six is last night one
thirty seven to ninety eight. When I say they squashed crush,

(05:57):
it was, it was.

Speaker 1 (05:58):
It was embarrassing. I wanted a more of a fight, Philly.

Speaker 4 (06:00):
Come on, Philly, listen, you say that now until they
tie the series up and then they up to one.
Now you like man the Knicks, Man, Nick, don't be knowing, man,
you're jailing bunching man.

Speaker 1 (06:08):
I don't know, man, shut up. I just enjoy the win.
I am enjoying. I want more of a fight. I
don't fight. Yes, I did you want the Knicks to
sweep Philadelphia? Yes? Absolutely, I just say I wanted to
be we wanted to lose. I want to sweep. More
of a fight, mean that they're gonna go to Game seven?
How about that? I don't want that much much of
a fight.

Speaker 5 (06:25):
He was you talking about last night the timber Wolves
beat the Spurs one O four one two Spurs.

Speaker 1 (06:30):
Yes, that went to sleep so I didn't know that. Yes,
that was at the the buzzer, at the buzzer. Wow.

Speaker 5 (06:36):
Yeah, I fell asleep for that one too. I fell
asleep for the fourth quarter of next when it was
up so much.

Speaker 1 (06:40):
I fell asleep. Now.

Speaker 5 (06:41):
Also, in a new interview with The New York Barack
Obama is getting candid about life after the White House.
He says the pressure to speak out on today's political
climbing is creating tension at home. Are also revealing frustration
behind the scenes, including concerns about double standards in politics.

Speaker 1 (06:57):
Now you dove into this interview, correct, yeah, bit of it.

Speaker 6 (07:00):
So there's two separate things that he's talking about.

Speaker 7 (07:02):
So he's talking about the pressures that people put on
him because he is Obama to react and to speak
on everything, and the pressure of like what else could
you do? Because people believe that he should be doing more,
So he says in order for him, Obama says, in
order for him to function like John Stewart at least
once a week just going off from responding to everything
that happens, it would be it would kind of devalue.

Speaker 6 (07:26):
His voice and his opinion.

Speaker 7 (07:28):
He says, the media environment is so difficult that people
don't even know all the stuff that I'm doing right now,
and I think when they do see me, they sense
that all is well. Why isn't he doing that every
day instead of just doing a midterm election? So he's
talking about when he goes and he speaks out during
different rallies and stuff like that, or during various campaigns.

Speaker 6 (07:46):
Now he is talking.

Speaker 7 (07:47):
About the fact that when you talk about frustrations at home,
he says that his political schedule is still frustrating Michelle Obama.
She wants Obama to slow down, but politics keep pulling
him back. So he he's telling the New Yorker that,
you know, he's having a demanding schedule right now, and
Michelle wants to see her husband easing up. Miss Michelle
Obama excuse me, wants to see her husband easing up

(08:08):
and spending more time with her, enjoying what remains of
their lives, which has been a big conversation for them.
Every time she talks about the White House, she talks
about how much their lives were impacted and how much
she couldn't wait until it's over. So it seems like
that's still becoming an issue for them right now.

Speaker 5 (08:22):
Do we ask more for President Obama because he's our
first black president? Did we ask for all the presidents?
And all the presidents have this schedule? Like they couldn't
have the same schedule that you know, we nobody didn't,
but you know, did they all have those same schedules.

Speaker 4 (08:36):
First of all, the pressure President Obama is because we
are watching our democracy be threatened in waves. We've never
seen our democracy threatened before, and nothing that is coming
from the Trump administration is normal, So we don't expect
normalcy from anyone who has held that position before. I
know presidents aren't supposed to speak on, you know, other presidents,

(08:57):
but I think it's important for all the presidents who
are still alive.

Speaker 1 (08:59):
They'll let them, They'll let the American people know what's.

Speaker 4 (09:02):
Going on is not normal, right, Like, that's why you
know it might feel like it's a little bit more
pressure for President Obama. And he's the only president that
seems like he's got a pulse. That's still a lie,
he says, he's just true, right Like.

Speaker 1 (09:14):
He's the only one that seems like he's he's still
here with us.

Speaker 7 (09:17):
Obama says he feels like if he tried to compat
every outrageous utterance in various policy from the Trump white House,
he would quickly diminish his impact.

Speaker 4 (09:26):
That was the quote, Why is he looking at this
from a perception standpoint? You either do what's right or
you don't. You either say what's right or you don't.

Speaker 5 (09:34):
But also, when you give your life to politics and
you finally come out that office and you want to
live a little, you want to see your kids a little,
you want to live life. Doesn't he get that right
too as well? Fall back and just say I'm gonna
live my life and chill with my family for a
little bit.

Speaker 1 (09:46):
Sure, but if that's the case, then everybody should do that,
then nobody should care about what's going on.

Speaker 4 (09:50):
Absolutely, like anybody would avoid anybody with a platform. Nobody
should care what's going on. If everybody could just keep
their feed up and relax and enjoy their life and
enjoy their money, than.

Speaker 1 (09:59):
Everybody you should be able to do that, like you should.
You can't.

Speaker 4 (10:02):
Uh, you can't put that responsibility on nobody, you know
what I mean? Nobody should have to speak up?

Speaker 1 (10:07):
All right, Well that is why you paying them something.
John Steward, I think they were just talking President.

Speaker 7 (10:13):
I think they were just talking about because they also
get into him in the immediate landscape, So I think
they were He's talking about the expectation of everyone to
always hear him, respond to something when it happens, or
to say certain things more than the people just think
he pops up when we need them for elections.

Speaker 4 (10:26):
Well, the reality is your party needs a leader because
your party doesn't have what President Obama. So you were
the last actual real leader of the party. That's that's
just the reality of the situation. It's not our fault.
Democrats didn't build a bitch. Wait you know the hell
I said, stop being stupid?

Speaker 5 (10:42):
Okay, all right, well that is front page news, all right,
Like I said, me and he was having some technical difficulties.
We'll get it back on for the next hour. I
see her side partner. She's back all right, everybody else,
get it off your chest. Eight hundred five eight five
one oh five one. If you need to vent, call
us up right now again. Eight hundred and five eight
five five one is the Breakfast Club? Good morning and

(11:04):
I Ray right.

Speaker 1 (11:05):
Ray Yo, Charlotte Man, Jamsey, what up are we lost?

Speaker 2 (11:09):
This is your time to get it off your chest?

Speaker 1 (11:11):
I got an indoor pool.

Speaker 9 (11:12):
Talk door pool.

Speaker 2 (11:13):
We want to hear from you on the breakfast Club.

Speaker 9 (11:15):
Get on the phone right now.

Speaker 10 (11:16):
He'll tell you what it is.

Speaker 1 (11:17):
We live. Hello.

Speaker 11 (11:19):
Who's this Yeah, good morning, breakfast Club.

Speaker 12 (11:21):
It's Jay Jay.

Speaker 1 (11:22):
What's up Jaya? Not much?

Speaker 11 (11:24):
Hey, real quick? Good morning crew, Lauren London. I just
missed you in Italy. I was out there a weekly
Lord l.

Speaker 1 (11:29):
Rosa, Hella and Lauren London. We don't have a Lauren
that works here. Lauren London does not work here.

Speaker 6 (11:34):
Noil Morning.

Speaker 11 (11:34):
That's her, that's her nickname. What's up?

Speaker 1 (11:37):
Hey? I need that help? What's up?

Speaker 11 (11:39):
I need to help? Trayler Man, I need I helped you.

Speaker 1 (11:42):
Eddy.

Speaker 11 (11:42):
I'm coming to New York for a day trip. I'm
flying in in the morning, I'm analy out that night.
I got one thing on my docket, which is a
twelve thirty Yekee game. I need some more idea things
to do. I couldn't get in the car Bone. So
what else can I do for a day?

Speaker 1 (11:55):
Well? You coming?

Speaker 5 (11:55):
You got a twelve thirty game, So the game will
be over at three thirty four. What times your flight out?

Speaker 1 (11:59):
Yep?

Speaker 11 (12:00):
Uh at nine o'clock that night?

Speaker 4 (12:02):
You could go to Brooklyn Chophouse, Brooklyn chop House. Great
love Brooklyn Shophouse. And I'll tell you what else, Mario Carbone,
you got other restaurants in New York other than carl Bone.
You got the ZZ Club. I like the Lobster Club personally,
trus he can't get his easy clubs, his membership.

Speaker 1 (12:17):
Get the club.

Speaker 4 (12:18):
But Brooklyn schophouses fire, I love shop houses, one of
the Times Square and the one in downtown.

Speaker 1 (12:23):
Yep.

Speaker 11 (12:24):
So y'all y'all want me to fly in and get back?
What else y'all got for me that I can be acted?

Speaker 1 (12:28):
Though?

Speaker 5 (12:28):
Oh you could also go cut some slices if you
if you're into like just pizza that's outside the box,
like the oxtail pizza.

Speaker 1 (12:34):
The I mean you name it. They I mean you
could go there too, and that's right now.

Speaker 5 (12:37):
If you're flying in the JFK, that's right there JFK,
so that'll be close to you.

Speaker 1 (12:41):
What else is there that that that you should definitely
check out? He said, he in and out. And he
said he in and out that same day.

Speaker 11 (12:47):
I'm coming in town just for the game. I ain't
never been to a Yankee game, so I'm just coming
in and sliding and coming right back out.

Speaker 5 (12:52):
The only thing is the game is in the Bronx,
so that's a little far from from the city. With traffic,
it'll take you an hour to get to the city
during that time I want to have So that's why I.

Speaker 1 (12:58):
Would say this. Just just play the to go eat
and then get back on that flight.

Speaker 5 (13:03):
So you ain't gonna have that much time because traffic
in the city during that time is rush hours.

Speaker 1 (13:07):
You're gonna need time to poop if you go to
either any of them places. You want you to know that, all.

Speaker 11 (13:12):
Right, Well, I appreciate child. Let I know how it
did work.

Speaker 5 (13:14):
I get back next time you go for a longer time.
You know, we can set out a better schedule. But
you you're gonna be in for a little time. You
don't want miss your flight back, and the way the
traffic is in the city, you're gonna give yourself a
little extra time.

Speaker 11 (13:23):
Brother, all right, I appreciate that we locked it.

Speaker 4 (13:26):
The funniest thing in the world is when people ask
me what to do in New York. I don't go
out in New York. I have no idea. Okay, I
couldn't tell you what help.

Speaker 1 (13:32):
You go to dinner.

Speaker 5 (13:32):
You go to Broadway place, but he's not there for
that time, like so many things.

Speaker 1 (13:36):
You can do, but I got I go to Broadway
Broadways too. Ladies leaving the I go eat every now
and then. You don't be out in the city.

Speaker 5 (13:43):
Yeah, I mean that's pretty much it, unless you just
want to walk through Central Park. But all right, get
it off your chest. Eight hundred and five eight five
one o five. A lot of people walk through Center Point.
You walk through Central Park to ride my bike through.

Speaker 6 (13:55):
So we can't walk in Central Park.

Speaker 4 (13:58):
But they're gonna walk through Central Park one time or
a shoot I did with Apple.

Speaker 6 (14:02):
Are your whole time living in New York?

Speaker 1 (14:04):
Yes?

Speaker 4 (14:05):
Hell, what I mean, we're just walking through so oh
you know what? And when I uh and also.

Speaker 5 (14:08):
Number month months old that I was. You know, if
your chest call us up right now is the breakfast club,
go morning.

Speaker 2 (14:16):
This is your time to get it off your chest,
whether you're man or blast.

Speaker 5 (14:19):
I hate the way that you walk, the way did
you talk, I hate the way you dress.

Speaker 1 (14:23):
Everything when this is best?

Speaker 2 (14:25):
Call up now eight hundred and five eight five one not.

Speaker 1 (14:29):
I'm what the coach? You're feeling? Hello? Who's this? Hey?

Speaker 5 (14:32):
Indeed this is og Now why are you feeling?

Speaker 13 (14:37):
I'm feeling pretty good.

Speaker 14 (14:38):
I'm feeling pretty good. I just want to send out
some love and light to my family needs suffer the
tragic loss over the last two weeks. So I'm visiting
from North Carolina. Came to support my lats and family.
So I just want to let all my family know
from Jersey to South Carolina that I love y'all and
we got to love on each other while we're here.

Speaker 1 (15:00):
Absolutely sending you and your family healing energy. Absolutely, thank you.

Speaker 9 (15:03):
Charlotte.

Speaker 14 (15:04):
Hey, Charlotte Hay Jazz, congratulations on.

Speaker 4 (15:06):
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Oh you having some parents and issues, Yeah to.

Speaker 14 (15:18):
The kind of but yeah, but I still want to
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Speaker 1 (15:22):
Your help, We feel you. Yeah, thank you.

Speaker 12 (15:24):
Forgot but thank you y'all.

Speaker 15 (15:26):
Have a great one, you two.

Speaker 1 (15:27):
Now. Hello, who's this?

Speaker 12 (15:29):
This is Tamika. I'm calling from Charlotte, North Carolina's Tamika.

Speaker 1 (15:33):
How are you?

Speaker 11 (15:34):
I'm good? How are you guys?

Speaker 13 (15:35):
This morning?

Speaker 1 (15:36):
Black and Holly favor get it off your chest, Amiker.

Speaker 12 (15:39):
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(16:15):
co parents and situation would be better than what it is,
given that we are people of a certain age and it's.

Speaker 13 (16:22):
Just not you know what I mean. And I was
listening to some of the things that just was saying
and identifying with the relationship with her and her relationship
with Rome. And I was like, why is this so familiar?

Speaker 15 (16:39):
And it just is even in our large age, you
know what I mean, and in my.

Speaker 12 (16:45):
New relationship, just the things that I deal with my
seventeen year old.

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And I'm like, wow, these things are so familiar, so
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Speaker 4 (17:30):
But but you know, when I when I'm having conversations
with Jess, that's the one thing that she's receiving when
she's out and about it these books signings, you know
what I mean, And that is that is the impact
of books, Like it's just something about literature that hits
people in a different way, and you get to show
a side of yourself that people may not may not
necessarily see.

Speaker 1 (17:48):
So I'm glad she told her story and tell death
do we parents? Absolutely get it off your chest. Eight
hundred five eight five one o five one. If you
need the event, you can hit us up. Now we
got the ladies with Laurn coming up.

Speaker 7 (17:57):
Yes, we're gonna be get into a little bit of
a met Galla things. Charla May mentioned the forty two
million dollars that was raised, so we're breaking that down
in forty two. Yeah, So Women's Work Daily is quoting
forty two million dollars, according to one of the executive
officers of the Gala, and that's a record breaking number,
topped last year by some some mounch so much.

Speaker 6 (18:17):
So we'll get into that and break it so.

Speaker 1 (18:19):
Much, Like you want to be a stud so bad
and you say so much, so much, but that EPI, wow,
you see all them pretty women in them dresses and
now you're thinking about munching.

Speaker 7 (18:32):
That is I'm saying at top that last year's number
by so much is what I meant.

Speaker 5 (18:37):
Okay, yes, all right, Well we'll get into that. Next,
it's the Breakfast Club.

Speaker 1 (18:40):
Good Morning.

Speaker 4 (18:40):
Yes, it's the World Look Dangerous Morning Show to Breakfast Club.
Happy Tuesday, Happy single the Maya Ho.

Speaker 6 (18:46):
Why are you so happy?

Speaker 1 (18:47):
I don't know.

Speaker 4 (18:47):
I go by the name of Charlamage the God DJV.
Why you're not representing for your people this morning?

Speaker 1 (18:52):
Man?

Speaker 6 (18:52):
What's what's that single.

Speaker 1 (18:56):
That's crazy that you don't even know to days you're
it was June Tea when you said my people. I
know you ain't think that that's what I'm doing.

Speaker 6 (19:03):
Black Family Reunion Act America.

Speaker 1 (19:05):
Let's go to the Ladies of Lauren. I'm not even
having this.

Speaker 6 (19:09):
Yeah, I'm not dumbing myself down. I'm being myself.

Speaker 7 (19:15):
I'm the home girl that knows a little bit about
everything and everything.

Speaker 6 (19:19):
The little brown girls look at you and go, I
want to be like you.

Speaker 2 (19:21):
Take me to that. Take the latest on the Breakfast Club.

Speaker 6 (19:29):
Talk to me alrighty.

Speaker 7 (19:32):
Also, the met Gala went down last night here in
New York City. The gala, as an update of port
According to Women's Wear Daily, raised four hundred I'm sorry,
forty two million dollars. This is a record breaking number.
Last year they raised thirty one million.

Speaker 6 (19:48):
Dollars.

Speaker 1 (19:48):
That's a lot of Chicken Boyne.

Speaker 7 (19:50):
The Met Gala has grown into the largest museum fundraiser
in the world and the money that they raised, they
used this to preserve more than thirty three thousand objects,
and you know that represents seven different centuries through fashion
and different accessories for women children from the fifteenth century
to present day. Now, tickets generally cross seventy five thousand dollars,
but designers buy these tables and invite the celebrities. That's

(20:12):
why celebrities show up dressed in certain designers. Now let's
get into who was there. So of course we talked
about Beyonce making her big return to the carpet after
a decade and La La.

Speaker 6 (20:25):
Our girl, La La. She was hosting for Vogue.

Speaker 7 (20:27):
So at the top of the stairs, when you got
to the top before you went in the Met Gala,
you would speak to La La. So Beyonce was there,
she was on the carpet. We got to see Blue,
Ivy and Jay Z as well. And Beyonce shared some
words about her at tennis sas say he listen.

Speaker 8 (20:39):
Now, b it's been ten years, ten years, how does
it feel being back?

Speaker 16 (20:43):
It feels surreal. Because my daughter's here and Blue looks
so beautiful. She looks so beautiful. This is incredible to
be able to share it with her, And I think
she looks so incredible.

Speaker 6 (20:54):
She looks so beautiful. I'm like, we could learn some
red carpet tips from Blue.

Speaker 16 (20:57):
Absolutely because you was ready, She was ready, She is ready.

Speaker 3 (21:01):
Absolutely, So, b what are you looking forward to most
from tonight?

Speaker 16 (21:05):
I think it's really just experiencing this through the eyes
of Blue and being able to relax. And I think
for me, I'm wearing Olivier Roustin, who is so good,
someone that's been so loyal to me, and I've done
so many incredible, iconic looks with him. So it's really
about representing him and celebrating bodies. Just celebrating all bodies,

(21:27):
all the different bodies, different, juicy, being tall, whatever, just
celebrating whoever, whatever, God gave you.

Speaker 6 (21:35):
Yes.

Speaker 7 (21:36):
So, this year's theme was costume art and the dress
code was fashionist art, but they celebrated different bodies in
the museum set up that they had now.

Speaker 6 (21:45):
Beyonce mentioned Oliver.

Speaker 7 (21:47):
Rustine, who is who used to be one of the
heads over at Ball Main Black Designer, and he was
like one of the first black designers to lead a
coutur fashion house, which is a really big deal.

Speaker 6 (21:56):
But yeah, we have some photos of.

Speaker 7 (21:58):
The Carter family on the carpet and Kardashian there as
well too, sizz A Bad Bunny, Cardi b.

Speaker 1 (22:05):
Oh it was bad Bunny, so bad Bunny.

Speaker 7 (22:07):
He was representing an aged body. He's like fifty two
years old. So there's like a lot of prosthetics and
stuff like that as well too. Now, some of the
people who were not there, notably because they've been their
previous years, but also this one person spoke out, Taraji
p Henson was not there, and she actually was very
vocal about the celebrities who chose to show up at

(22:27):
the carpet and acts, what the f are we doing
because people should not be there. Because Jeff Besos it
was one of the lead sponsors for the gala, and
it was also reported that Zindeya you know, wasn't coming.
She did not show up, even though her stylist and
the duo was known to show up together came and
people believed too that potentially she may have not shown
up because of the whole Jeff Besos tie in.

Speaker 4 (22:48):
That's interesting, but you know that should kind of be
consistent all across the border, right, Like do you stop
using Amazon to get your packages? Do you you know, if.

Speaker 1 (23:00):
You're an actor and actress, do you not Amazon? No? No? Yeah?

Speaker 4 (23:04):
And g Amazon prom but do you not do movies
and stuff for Amazon studios? Like I'm just I'm just saying,
I guess should be consistent all across the board.

Speaker 6 (23:11):
I agree with that.

Speaker 7 (23:12):
And Reverend Sharpton was on the carpet and he was
asked by New York One about the fact that Miguel Yeah, Okay,
He was asked by New York One about the fact
that he even showed up in the midst of all
the protests of stick a listen.

Speaker 10 (23:24):
I'm here tonight to say that these artists that we
need to bring this world back to a level where
we all exude what we have inside.

Speaker 1 (23:33):
What about the Bezos success cherif how do you feel
about that?

Speaker 10 (23:36):
I think that every year I've come, they've had very
wealthy people that supported Macca, and they didn't stop me
from coming. They don't have enough money to keep me
from talking to the artists I came to support. We
fought for years for diversity. I'm here to support Venus
and Beyonce. How do we fight and let a sponsor

(23:56):
make us walk away from the people we fought for
and salute Anna Wenter for making them coach chairs Despite
the controversy, my fashion sense is the ultimate African urban flavor, unapologetic.

Speaker 4 (24:13):
Once again, it's interesting because we know they use black
culture to get people to come to the met And
I understand folks making their stand against Jeff Bezos, but
I just wonder are you consistent with that in all
aspects aspects of your life? Like, once again, do you
stop using you know, Amazon to get your packages? Do
you stop reading things like the Washington Post? Do you
stop watching Amazon Prime? And if you are an actor
or an actress, do you not do movies with Amazon Studios?

(24:35):
It should be consistent across the board in all aspects
of your life.

Speaker 1 (24:39):
Can't just be you know, want. But some people pick
their battles.

Speaker 5 (24:44):
They decide, I want to do this, but I don't
want to do that, right because this is this will
affect my money more.

Speaker 1 (24:49):
But this one, if I don't go to the gallo.

Speaker 4 (24:50):
Then it's kind of one. You kind of defeats the
purpose I get. Yeah, you make one another one void.

Speaker 1 (24:56):
Then what you're saying.

Speaker 7 (24:57):
I also think too, because you know, those pro test
against the Galla elite or like bubbling until the night,
and I was wondering it's specifically with Taraji, and I
was I reached out to try and like, you know,
talk to her to get some audio for us today,
but you know she's working. Why wait until the gala,
like that night to do it, because those protesters have
been putting things out and doing things for the last time.

Speaker 1 (25:19):
Saying it beforehand. We just haven't heard. It's a huge
night to do it. It's a huge night.

Speaker 7 (25:24):
But that's what I'm saying. I think I was trying to,
you know, respond to you, Charlotte. I was thinking, maybe
it's you pick and choose your battles where you choose
the bigger platform. So if I say, oh, I'm not
doing a movie on Amazon unless I talk about it,
and even if I do, maybe it's a fast if you.

Speaker 1 (25:37):
Wait offer it.

Speaker 4 (25:38):
If you're an actor and actress and somebody office, especially
somebody like Taraji, and they get offered to do a
movie with Amazon Studio and she says, no, I'm not
doing it because the Jeff would be huge, and we.

Speaker 7 (25:46):
Don't know what she maybe has recently turned down my
her plans are moving forward. I this was my first
time even hearing her be vocal, you know, in the
baso space. But I could be wrong though, but yeah,
she was one of the you know, people staring the conversation,
you know, and it's her right to do stuff.

Speaker 5 (26:01):
But question before before we get a bout of here.
So when people go to this met gala, are their performances?
Is there a DJ?

Speaker 1 (26:07):
Yes? Yeah? Food yeah? Or are they just looking at
each other? No?

Speaker 6 (26:10):
When you go inside, it's a gala.

Speaker 5 (26:12):
I'm just asking, like I've never heard like somebody performed.

Speaker 6 (26:15):
It's a gala.

Speaker 1 (26:16):
Yeah, so you performed last night.

Speaker 6 (26:18):
I believe her name was. I believe it was City Sweeney.

Speaker 5 (26:22):
And then when they get up the stairs with that
crazy ass outfits, like they can't walk around, like people
are not handling a.

Speaker 6 (26:27):
Lot of people change outfits.

Speaker 7 (26:28):
It was Sabrina Carpenter that out perform last night, I
Saididney Sweeney, that's actress. Sabrina Carpenter performed last night. Beyonce Venus,
Nicole Kidman who Beyonce Venus Williams and Cole Kimen who
were co chairs, they host the gala, there's a bunch
of money rais, you do eat as well, and then
people leave it go to the after parties. Beyonce notably
last night changed her outfit into another outfit as well too.

Speaker 6 (26:48):
So it is a traditional gala.

Speaker 1 (26:50):
It's just million dollars. That's what people need to keep
in mind.

Speaker 4 (26:53):
This is it's an event that raises money right for
the Metropolitan Museum of Arts and listen, salute to them.
I think it's incredible whenever events like this can raise
that type of money. But I really do wish we
could do that for Black history museums and organizations. Okay,
if these designers have the money for this, well, all
the celebrities, especially black ones, you need to be using
your cultural cachet to make these designers drop a bag

(27:17):
on these black history museums.

Speaker 1 (27:18):
What a statement that would be, because we.

Speaker 4 (27:20):
Know for a fact the Trump administration has terminated federal
grants and funding for several black history museums and organizations.
Why because they say it's a lack of alignment with
administration policies and a push against you know, DEI initiatives.
They've literally withheld are terminated grants to museums that focus
on black history, saying they do not serve the interests

(27:41):
of the United States. So what a statement it would
be if you made these black designers drop some bags
on these black.

Speaker 1 (27:47):
Museums as we rap.

Speaker 7 (27:49):
I just want to say that the MET Museum does
have things that they do and like collaborative exhibitions. They
give loans and partnerships directly on like a larger scale
to HBCUs, various.

Speaker 1 (27:58):
Blad they are Black history muss an organization.

Speaker 6 (28:00):
They're not. But what I'm saying is they have.

Speaker 1 (28:02):
An administration cutting their funding in their.

Speaker 6 (28:03):
Grands they use. They But what I'm saying is.

Speaker 5 (28:05):
That all these people that are raising the money, they
should also raise money for these others.

Speaker 1 (28:11):
Stays out of the MET galles has nothing to do
with the.

Speaker 6 (28:12):
MET gallup, But why not take it out their pot
and give it to your people.

Speaker 5 (28:15):
You're just saying that it's just like these celebrities come
go to this MET gala, they can go to other
organizations and help our own out as well.

Speaker 4 (28:22):
And guess, especially when the black history museums and organizations
are actually being attacked, when this administration has literally terminated
federal grants and funding for them.

Speaker 1 (28:32):
He's taking taking away from the met gala.

Speaker 5 (28:34):
But all the celebrities that attended and all those designers
exactly black people that we these design outfits saying I
spend some money on this side.

Speaker 7 (28:42):
Chilling everybody is DJ Envy just hilarious.

Speaker 5 (28:49):
Charlamagne, the gud we are the breakfast club. Let's get
back in some front page news. Thought off of sports.

Speaker 1 (28:55):
Last night.

Speaker 5 (28:55):
The next week to seventy six is one thirty seven
ninety eight. The Timberwolves beat the Spur one four, one two.

Speaker 4 (29:02):
I can't believe that this first, that's that that was surprised.
I didn't know anything that was playing.

Speaker 5 (29:07):
I thought he was hurt now that it was the
last one to call that he played. But yeah, no,
I think it was a game. When he shot, I
didn't see.

Speaker 1 (29:13):
I fell asleep.

Speaker 5 (29:13):
I felt, like I said, even last night. The next game,
after the third court, I'm like, we got this.

Speaker 7 (29:17):
Everybody was at the next game. I called one of
my like NYPD sources.

Speaker 6 (29:21):
They were there.

Speaker 1 (29:21):
Everybody. Yes, yes, absolutely, what's up, Mami.

Speaker 6 (29:25):
We got you back, We got me back.

Speaker 17 (29:27):
Good morning, v Lauren, Charlamagne, how y'all doing this morning?

Speaker 6 (29:31):
Good morning, Good morning, good morning.

Speaker 17 (29:33):
So okay, so we start this hour, we're gonna talk
about the mec Gala. So at one at one point
there was a protester who nearly broke through the barricades,
getting close to photographers before being tackled by police and
removed from the scene. We know him as Chris Smalls,
so Chris Small's He was the leader of a well

(29:54):
known labor activist. He started it back in twenty twenty Amazon.
They first fired him when he he walked out over
COVID safety conditions in a Staten Island warehouse. Well, he
was the one person that we know so far that
was arrested. He was charged with resisting arrests, obstruction, disorderly conduct,
blocking a vehicle with a sign, jumping over an NYPD vehicle.

(30:17):
But he went on to found the Amazon Labor Union
and in twenty twenty two he helped leaders there make
the first successful Amazon Union vote in history, or take
the post take the.

Speaker 6 (30:29):
First Amazon vote in history. So he was arrested.

Speaker 17 (30:33):
There was a lot of protesting going outside, going on outside,
but the moment comes after this year event, a face
is growing backlash because it was tied to the involvement
of billionaire Jeff Bezos and his wife Lauren Sanchez Besos.
They were serving as honorary chairs, so they were outside.
Of course, the people were had signs and they were

(30:56):
really upset about all the corporate power that they said
that was going on in side. But that wasn't the
only disruption activist. They projected messages across major buildings in Manhattan,
including directly onto Bezos his Manhattan penthouse. It started there
and then it moved to the Chrysler Building, the Empire
State Building, and they projected a video testimony of a

(31:17):
seventy two year old Amazon worker struggling to make ends meet.
Let's listen to what some of what she had to say.

Speaker 18 (31:23):
Yeah, that was all breaking, when we struggle from paycheck
to paycheck, from w to We were need angers week
because if they weren't for every ass shit and every
Amazon facility, he wouldn't have all those zeros behind his knee.

Speaker 1 (31:42):
Shame on you, Joe Basils. The people that need to be.

Speaker 18 (31:46):
Being celebrated at the met gala are the workers, people
like me. We deserve that celebration. We deserve so much
more than we're getting. There's power in numbers. Enjoy damn gala.

Speaker 1 (32:01):
A workers gallon would be phenomenal.

Speaker 4 (32:03):
I mean, you know, imagine, I don't know how this
would work, but imagine you did like a workers gallon,
and you raised a whole bunch of money to give
the workers, like you know, much needed bonuses, even though
you already have the money, already have, even though you
already have the money.

Speaker 6 (32:15):
He gave like ten million dollars, at least ten million
dollars for this guy.

Speaker 5 (32:19):
Gall But the lady was she looked like she was
a seventy between seventy five and eighty five year old
black woman, older woman, and she was just I mean,
like you could see the pain in her face and
how upset she was.

Speaker 1 (32:28):
It was. It was very disturbing.

Speaker 6 (32:30):
It was very hard to watch.

Speaker 17 (32:31):
I think a lot of people to your point, and
people were talking about her age. She was seventy two
years old and to be working in an Amazon warehouse
at seventy two years old when you should be retired.
I think that was the conversation that I saw online
last night surrounding you know what she had to say
and just blocks away, Luther, Chris.

Speaker 4 (32:48):
Mas Saluthor, Chris malls Man, you know what I mean,
because him being arrested last night brought a lot of
attention to that situation.

Speaker 1 (32:53):
So was Luther Christmas did.

Speaker 7 (32:55):
Yeah when I first started seeing them, because they've been
doing things like putting up signs on the Met Museum
and stuff like that, like the last like almost a month,
and I was like, why is it so quiet? But
last night him doing it in real time, I feel
like that was most effective.

Speaker 17 (33:08):
Yeah, and also to your point too, just blocks away,
there was a counter event labor groups. They hosted their
own fashion show. It was called Ball Without Billionaires. So
then they kind of flipped the message and there were
workers as models, and they had a new theme called
Labor is Art.

Speaker 6 (33:24):
Instead of fashion is Art, it was labor It's Art.

Speaker 17 (33:28):
And so those workers just you know, there was all
sort of protests happening at the same time. They really
wanted to make their voices heard as that Met gala
took place last night, and that kind of frustration it
wasn't just playing out in New York. Now this morning
in Philadelphia, parents, teachers, and city leaders, they're voicing their
own sort of outrage. So the city Board of Education

(33:50):
it has voted to close seventeen schools there despite protests, disruptions,
and fierce pushback from city leaders. So there was a
vote and it passed six to three. It was part
of a three billion dollar plan to reshape the district,
with officials saying it's about improving resources and opportunity for students.

Speaker 6 (34:08):
Now, this meeting.

Speaker 17 (34:09):
Itself, it was chaotic, with protests inside the room, lawmakers
they were threatening legal action, and the vote it eventually
moved online after officials were forced to take two recesses
just to get through the agenda. Let's listen first to
a city council member and then to a teacher about
some of that back and forth that happened in that
that school board meeting.

Speaker 6 (34:29):
For the community to be at the table.

Speaker 3 (34:31):
They have not provided an opportunity for counsel to be
at the table, and they're just trying to ram this down.

Speaker 1 (34:37):
Everybody's worms.

Speaker 6 (34:39):
We are not going to stand for it.

Speaker 19 (34:41):
They're gonna lose good teachers, they're gonna lose good students,
they are going to lose.

Speaker 6 (34:45):
A lot of support.

Speaker 19 (34:46):
I hope they're happy with this plan and what they
decided on.

Speaker 17 (34:50):
So critics say this is happening without a lot of transparency,
it's going to hit black students the hardest, forcing some
lower some into lower performing schools. But when you have
a school district and you're closing seventeen schools in that district,
it's forcing kids who have been in that school or
you know, people who live in that area to have

(35:11):
to now.

Speaker 6 (35:11):
Go to different schools.

Speaker 17 (35:12):
And so it's a really big issue parents, school board members,
everyone really really upset by this happening in Philadelphia.

Speaker 1 (35:19):
What's the reason?

Speaker 17 (35:21):
Budget cuts? They're trying to say it's budget cuts. But
then on the other side of that, which is what
I was trying to figure out, is they're trying to
find the money to fund it. So they're trying to
close schools to save money, but then figure out how
to you know, raise money or get money to you know,
formulate this entire program or see it through. So I
don't know, that's what I said. They're not From what

(35:42):
I understand, there isn't a lot of transparency behind why
they're trying to close seventeen schools.

Speaker 4 (35:47):
Yeah, I would never understand why it's so hard for
people to find money for things we actually need, like institutions,
we actually need, things that actually benefit our communities.

Speaker 1 (35:58):
Can never get resources will get funded. Yeah, it makes
no sense. It makes no sense. It's been like this
at the beginning of time.

Speaker 4 (36:05):
It's always a fight, you know, when you got to
provide resources for you know, people, for people and things
that actually need it.

Speaker 5 (36:12):
And this just goes back to what you were saying yesterday.
You know, you understand why people get so mad and
so upset when they see these billions and billions of
dollars sent to other countries and sent to war and
then they're closing schools because they don't have the resources.

Speaker 1 (36:24):
You understand why people get mad.

Speaker 5 (36:25):
Can you imagine people in that district that already have
a you know, fifty sixty kids per class, like, can
you imagine they already don't have the supplies.

Speaker 1 (36:32):
Yes, that's why people get so mad and upset. I
don't understand why that's such a hard concept for people
to grasp.

Speaker 8 (36:37):
Yeah.

Speaker 17 (36:37):
Yeah, So we'll continue to watch that because it's a
really big touch point. All right, y'all, Well that is
your front page news I mean Me Brown, follow me
I mean Me Brown TV, and for more stories, follow
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Speaker 1 (36:48):
All right, thank you, Mimi, thank you.

Speaker 5 (36:50):
All right, Now, when we come back, Isaiah Rashad will
be joining.

Speaker 4 (36:54):
Us, and Isaiah has a very interesting story because you've
got a new album I called It's Been Awful.

Speaker 1 (36:57):
He's also signed the TDD top All Entertainment.

Speaker 4 (37:01):
And you know, if you remember about five years ago,
he got caught up because you know, he got caught
on a sex tape with another man and people didn't
know he was I guess gay, bisexual.

Speaker 5 (37:12):
I think he's fluid, and I think that's the term.

Speaker 1 (37:16):
Was a lot of fluid. You know what. We'll talk
to Isaiah Rashaw when we come back. Look he breacked
up over there.

Speaker 5 (37:20):
Look at him. We talked about rash We come back
the Breakfast Club. Good morning Morning.

Speaker 1 (37:25):
Everybody is dj n V just hilarious. Charlamagne the guy.

Speaker 5 (37:29):
We are the Breakfast Club, Law the Roses here and
we got a special guest in the.

Speaker 1 (37:33):
Building, Ladies and gentlemen, Isaiah Richard.

Speaker 4 (37:36):
He got a new album out, It's been awful. How
are you, sir, man? How you feeling?

Speaker 1 (37:41):
Man? Feel good? Skinned, looking, luxurious. I'm trying to follow.

Speaker 6 (37:44):
You know, he had to go through too much for that.

Speaker 1 (37:47):
Look, I.

Speaker 20 (37:50):
Did a whole bunch of bad shaving in college and stuff.
I've been having to do laser and all this other stuff.

Speaker 1 (37:59):
I was. I get me too. The hate.

Speaker 4 (38:04):
Hegoes to a lot, and y'all act like men can't
have do maintenance on themselves.

Speaker 6 (38:07):
You can, but you be not trying. You be running
from it. Who will be running from what you always
tell you get?

Speaker 1 (38:11):
That's why don't get my eye. Welcome's in no way,
shape or form.

Speaker 6 (38:17):
The arch the end right exactly, Okay.

Speaker 4 (38:20):
Well, to be honest, listen, listen, listen, listen, listen, listen listen.
Back in the day when I was in I don't
even think I was in high school. I think I
was like early twenties. Some girls told me that Tupac
got his eyebrows watch, and so they convinced me to
get my eyebrows watch. And I think when they grew back,
it just had a permanent watch. That's what I believe.

Speaker 1 (38:37):
That's a good way to look at it. It's the truth.
It's been awful? What's what's been awful? Isaiah Shad.

Speaker 4 (38:46):
I hear the album title and I listened to the album,
but really the album title it sounds like a confession,
like what's been awful?

Speaker 1 (38:52):
The industry, your personal life?

Speaker 20 (38:54):
I mean an amalgamation of everything. You know, I'm just
a human being at the end of it.

Speaker 1 (39:00):
I went through some.

Speaker 20 (39:03):
To an extent, but it was, you know, between being
an artist and the expectations of that, and I guess
my deconstruction of my masculinity has been a lot of
getting to know myself.

Speaker 1 (39:14):
Who deconstructed it? Though?

Speaker 4 (39:16):
Did you deconstruct it or did you let the court
of public opinion deconstructed? Because I wondered you did you
face it before that became public or were you already
dealing with it privately?

Speaker 20 (39:27):
I was already dealing with a lot of my own
stuff before. I guess it was I'm blessed to how
everything happened with me and the reception of everything, because
it allowed me to like step back and really re
examine what I was doing. Because regardless of you know,
how much I love myself, I still had to be like,
I put myself in a irresponsible situation for anybody to

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be able to control my narrative.

Speaker 7 (39:53):
Yeah, but at the time, because listening to the project
and then hearing you say that like you felt like
it was kind of like a bl person of how
everything happened. When when did you get to that point,
did you instantly feel like, Okay, this is a blessing.

Speaker 1 (40:05):
Yeah.

Speaker 20 (40:05):
I mean at some point in time I accepted that
they don't make a manual for being like a bisexual
black dude, you know, or any of that type.

Speaker 1 (40:13):
They don't have a you know.

Speaker 20 (40:15):
Yeah, And it was less like hiding myself from anything
more so like not knowing how to not be ostracized.

Speaker 21 (40:24):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (40:25):
So also you got to control your holes, regardless of
their men and women, because who the hell was recording you?

Speaker 1 (40:33):
If you listen to the album.

Speaker 20 (40:34):
If you listen to the album, I go into a
great amount of detail about where I was at and
the influences I was under. Yeah, said a lot of
I was on everything under the sun. But that's no
excuse for the behavior. But and that's the main thing
for me, was like I'm responsible for myself, responsible.

Speaker 1 (40:55):
For my family and all that time.

Speaker 20 (40:58):
That's only if I have any regret of anything, it's
just like not being ahead of it. Because I thought
about talking about this stuff on my last album, because
all that tape happened before the last album came out,
before houses bron Yeah, that's why I like on this album,
I talk about how I wasn't being honest with I
guess what I owe them most like is my audience,
because they seem to love me pretty genuinely. I don't

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like what things like that happen to people, and I
tell you why because I feel like, you know, your
personal life is yours to unpack when you want to
unpack it. And I think sometimes when things like that happen,
you know publicly, you're forced to try to explain things when.

Speaker 1 (41:36):
You may not be ready to explain. To me.

Speaker 20 (41:38):
I feel like I've always been under some type of
divine guidance. I grew up in the church, and you know,
I kind of grew out of wanting to go as much.
But my life has definitely been led like I put
it like, I feel like it's purposeful. I feel like
I'm an artist just to make money, like I'm here

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to affect you in some type of way. So I
feel like, you know, it happened, it was supposed to happen,
and my life is better for it.

Speaker 1 (42:08):
Did that moment break you or three you? Or both?
It's a little bit of both at the same time.

Speaker 20 (42:13):
You know, It's when anytime you don't get the control
how you want to, you know how you want to.

Speaker 1 (42:23):
Perceived.

Speaker 20 (42:24):
And again it was like me understanding again like what
was for the main thing was like what was masculinity
to me? It made me confront a lot of stuff
that I was saying about women and a lot of stuff,
a lot of ways I was expressing myself that was
really coming just from a place in insecurity. I mean,
I feel like I've gotten loved myself a little better.

(42:45):
In my family, man, we were way better open conversations.
We were pretty open before, but that was like all
on the table all the time.

Speaker 7 (42:54):
Had you talked to your family, like your mom and
different people before all of this stuff you were kind of.

Speaker 6 (42:58):
Dealing with it.

Speaker 1 (42:59):
Yeah, I definitely like my homeboys more than my mom.

Speaker 20 (43:02):
I talked to my homeboys about everything I was going through.
So they were the ones who released like they was
like what the are you doing? Like why are you
you know? But they my homeboys, like they know everything
about me. My brothers. Yeah, oh so they knew beforehand. Yeah,
you know, you have conversations on tour just in life
and like especially when he was drinking all that type
of stuff, you end up talking to your homeboys like

(43:22):
I had to talk to you about that, and they
be like, all right, and so when you like that,
it's more so you no respect my own privacy to
my life. It was just being irresponsible with you know,
being under this allowed things to go out.

Speaker 4 (43:36):
My only thing was why you had to let doctor
wumbar down though, why they had to be white, Like,
wh what.

Speaker 1 (43:41):
Are you talking about on the table I saw? How
can I don't know, doctor Peo. I probably will give
me anyway respect relationship. Do you feel like the culture
gave you grace or you forced to heal in public
whether you wanted to.

Speaker 20 (44:00):
I feel like if you listen to my music on
the back half of it, it's always been kind of fluid,
you know.

Speaker 1 (44:08):
It's always been pretty.

Speaker 20 (44:09):
Emotionally emotional, emotional and romantic and you know, and everything
that rap usually isn't on the front on the front,
on the front side of it. Yeah, so I feel
like it was prepared for it. I live on a
pre whimsical life anyway, how people perceive me, you know.
So I feel like only people who were upset with
people who viewed me just because I'm like, I don't

(44:34):
know how to put it, like more feminine, that they
were surprised and that was the whole deconstruction thing of like,
what does that mean to me?

Speaker 13 (44:42):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (44:43):
Did it make you realize that the illuminati not real?

Speaker 4 (44:45):
Because you know they say, when you're getting the industry,
you gotta do scrange things and then you blow up.

Speaker 1 (44:49):
They told me, like Drake level of that's the case.
I heard it.

Speaker 20 (44:53):
I passed my own humiliation. They told me I got
another ten years. Love that, So you know, I love
the Abnormal Record too.

Speaker 4 (45:05):
You know what I'm saying because you talk about how
your whole family with sex addicts, and I don't think we.

Speaker 1 (45:10):
Don't have enough listen to have you here to talk
to you about it. No, No, that's that's cold. That's
that's important. That's important record.

Speaker 4 (45:20):
For me because I feel like we don't have enough
conversations about environment and how environment shapes us. Men don't
have enough conversations about their formative years and how those
formative years turn us into the people and we becoming.

Speaker 1 (45:33):
Sometimes you got to unlearn a lot of that. You know,
that's been amazing.

Speaker 20 (45:37):
That's been the heaviest thing, like and to do it
without blaming, to do it and realize that the men
that would take me to go cheat on their wives
or whatever they would I would call, you know, my
uncles and whomever, and my my dad or whatever. They
when I look at their fathers and the lack of

(45:58):
their lives, like I can't I can only be so upset,
you know what I'm saying. I could take what happened
to me in the past or what I saw them,
but I got to be responsible for that, and I
got to give them grace because you know, they a
lot of them don't have the same opportunities to see
the world and experience it as open as I am.

Speaker 1 (46:18):
To have the growth. So you know, it's my responsibility
to at least give them that.

Speaker 4 (46:22):
Well, what's crazy is you talking to you talk on
the record about how when you were twelve, you know,
they said you want to see some nazza your daddy
kept your stash and they basically was showing you think
a lot of times guys showed the sons that because
they don't want their sons to end up.

Speaker 20 (46:35):
Yeah, you end up hyper hyper sexualizing your kid and
a fearful preventative type of thing make them worse.

Speaker 4 (46:42):
Low key, did y'all have so when you finally when
you came out, did you have a composition with those
men that introduced you to that.

Speaker 20 (46:50):
They my uncle passed, my I only talk to my dad,
so no, but I talk to the men who's still
in my life about it, and luckily most of them
a positive influences. But it was good to just talk
about what happened to people I look up to you.

Speaker 7 (47:06):
Did they understand when you went back like having that conversation.
Are they understanding or are they just positive because they
only just.

Speaker 20 (47:12):
Knew, like they know exactly, but they were like, this
isn't that surprising?

Speaker 6 (47:17):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (47:18):
What did this experience teach you about masculinity?

Speaker 4 (47:22):
Especially in a genre that rewards a certain image of
what a man is supposed to be?

Speaker 1 (47:27):
What did it teach me?

Speaker 20 (47:30):
It's like the most most characteristics that are pushed are
like negative, you know, the promiscuous nature and how that's promoted,
and being cold. Being a good dad isn't like promoted.
Being like responsible isn't promoted. Being a leader of your

(47:51):
community without having to without getting the the accolades is
being a leader. The emotion and you treat people that's
not really there. And real men cry, real men, you
know what I mean? Real men cry, Real men feel
things and women question themselves. But to go through life
is like just sure of yourself and and being and

(48:14):
coming off invincible. Could just lead a kid down the
wrong way, feeling like he gotta insulate himself in that
type of.

Speaker 1 (48:20):
Character, you know what I mean.

Speaker 4 (48:22):
So yeah, so what are your superpowers? That's another record
I like on that.

Speaker 20 (48:27):
Man, I got crazy empathy and as a somebody who's
who's in constant recovery.

Speaker 1 (48:35):
Like I said, I mess up. I'm not perfect.

Speaker 20 (48:40):
Nobody know a junkie like a junkie, bro, Man, I
feel like that's what I'm here for.

Speaker 1 (48:45):
You feel like you was a junkie. I go to.

Speaker 20 (48:49):
AA bro, and I'm comfortable with being called a junkie
from another junkie, don't you don't If you ain't never
did drugs, I'll talk to anybody. But if you're an alcoholic,
like just because on drink today, I'm still alcoholic, you
know what I mean. That's stay with me for the
rest of my life. And this is how I'm genetically
built too, you know what I mean.

Speaker 1 (49:07):
Come from a family.

Speaker 20 (49:08):
Yeah, I'm already predisposed to it.

Speaker 4 (49:12):
My mom's telling me that all the time. My mom
used always tell me and my brother watch that alcohol
because alcoholism runs in both sides of your family.

Speaker 6 (49:19):
Seeing that to me too in my grandma.

Speaker 1 (49:20):
And it's really an alcoholic I tried.

Speaker 7 (49:23):
To be a lot more disciplined now, like I do
challenge myself, like i'll fast, I'll set days and times
just to make sure that I can control it a bit,
because you get to like socially doing it so much,
and then you start depending on it for certain things
like oh, I got to take a shot before I
do this, and and then once you get around people
that will call it out like he be on me.
And then I started to notice like, all right, well,

(49:44):
let me try and challenge myself to like not because
I would come in here in the morning and be like,
y'all need two shots before the show start, just to
feel like it wouldn't give two, you know. But even
like I'm thinking about college, like we would drink before
we went to class. That was a thing too, And
I thought that it was regular because it's college, and
then you get in.

Speaker 1 (49:59):
Real life and you the college ain't real real life.

Speaker 6 (50:02):
It's like a simulator.

Speaker 20 (50:03):
Yeah, it's a bubble. Yeah yeah. I felt the same
wing on.

Speaker 4 (50:08):
So where do you think you were trying to run
from our escape when you were getting drunk.

Speaker 1 (50:12):
What was you was you numbering yourself to something? Well, yeah, definitely, man,
I got without.

Speaker 20 (50:16):
You know, I don't like going down the list of stuff,
but you know, I have unresolved parental stuff on both ends,
like respecting my relationship and my mom. We still have
stuff to work out, and you know, I just my
father and stuff. I don't like getting too heavy into
it in my thirties. I'm like, handle that versus complaining
about that.

Speaker 1 (50:36):
I don't think it's complaining, yeah, but that, you know,
and then just substance going from college.

Speaker 20 (50:41):
I mean it like I got signed when I was
twenty one, so and getting signed and getting thrust into
this world, especially they're in the blog era was just
and partying was normal like we used to in college.
We used to drink ever clear and set it off
no fun.

Speaker 7 (50:58):
So that was a challenge when you first got to
my college, Like if you could drink it and get
through it your first Thursday Thursday like you had it
was kind of it was.

Speaker 1 (51:05):
Like just hearing the word of a clear. He was
doing that. He was doing that? And would you go
to State University?

Speaker 6 (51:16):
I was so off of that right on Superpower.

Speaker 7 (51:18):
I mean, that's own happy hour, that's the you do
like the radio skit, right, so you do the radio
skit that you talk about your addiction, you talk about
your mom and how she's like crying and still not helping.

Speaker 6 (51:29):
And are you telling me if I'm wrong?

Speaker 7 (51:31):
Are you comparing what you're experiencing in the entertainment industry
like that being your escapism but then also comparing that
to like drug use being your escapism too, and how
both of them are kind of like feeding the fire. Yeah,
because I thought, I'm like, why bring in? Why started
with like the radio and like the you know, unless
you're signaling.

Speaker 20 (51:48):
Like oh oh okay, yeah, I just be making stuff.
A lot of stuff that I do isn't necessarily like planned.
It's just I have patterns that I recognize and I'm like, well,
this just sound good on the same projects together. But
the radio thing is just something I wanted to do
anyway because I heard that part and not just the

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name of it.

Speaker 1 (52:09):
I'm like, it's because.

Speaker 20 (52:10):
It's not to cut you off, but it's because of
the variety and the album. It's like to set it
up thematical because I don't really do concept album, but
it's like it's an underground radio because its a smortgage
board of different kinds of sound.

Speaker 1 (52:24):
So it was like that and it's just something.

Speaker 20 (52:26):
It set me up pretty good when I heard the
beat doing that, it's easy for me to come.

Speaker 4 (52:31):
Up, you know, the biggest thing that we can do
for each other as people stop acting like everything is
so black and white. That's why I hate social media
so much, because we take these complex things and try
to make them a your beat right around, as.

Speaker 1 (52:46):
We try to debate it instead of understanding, and it
might not be meant to understood. It might just be
meant to talk.

Speaker 4 (52:52):
You might understand exactly what you're going through and it
might not be for nobody else to understand.

Speaker 7 (52:57):
But the issue is though, but once it's online, then
people are debating and trying to fake understands.

Speaker 1 (53:03):
People public opinion once you do that, and that's the
gift the curse of the internet.

Speaker 7 (53:10):
And that's too Like when every time, like when you
said I signed up for this and he's like, no,
you didn't. I feel like it's a difference in like
the age groups as well, because like, like.

Speaker 20 (53:19):
I knew what I was getting too, Like I didn't
know the possibilities of everything for sure, knew.

Speaker 1 (53:25):
You know, we were on the same.

Speaker 7 (53:26):
Yeah, I feel like you got to take what comes
with it.

Speaker 6 (53:31):
How are you thirty four?

Speaker 1 (53:33):
Oh? Okay?

Speaker 7 (53:34):
You he's so mad. He's so mad it didn't work
because he you know, he predates the internet.

Speaker 1 (53:43):
I'm forty seven. Y.

Speaker 6 (53:45):
Yeah, that's kind of crazy.

Speaker 1 (53:46):
I've been. I grew up with him.

Speaker 6 (53:48):
Yeah, same, same, same.

Speaker 7 (53:51):
But the reason I say that is because like he
is so far in his career that like I feel
like he doesn't they have the privilege to be like
I didn't sign up for that. I'm not going to
do that today. And we can do that, but like
it's so different for us.

Speaker 1 (54:03):
Sometimes you didn't have Wikipedia or people.

Speaker 6 (54:06):
Doing TikTok reviews when you'd be like, no, I'm good.

Speaker 1 (54:09):
What is the thing? I don't care what your sexuality.
That's my point. It really does not matter is the music. Jamin.

Speaker 4 (54:18):
If this album was whack, I would be saying, how
this album is whack And it's not because of some
But when you're older.

Speaker 6 (54:23):
And you're involved in you have sense.

Speaker 7 (54:26):
It's like if everybody could be that, like the rationale
could be there it would be so much less of
a lot of things.

Speaker 4 (54:33):
But you know you really, I'm not joking. You owe nobody,
no explanation if.

Speaker 1 (54:38):
You choose too cool, but you really don't not only do.

Speaker 20 (54:41):
It for the look to man, thanks.

Speaker 6 (54:46):
You need to hear it.

Speaker 20 (54:46):
Yeah, like I really, that's the only people I owe
is the people you know in the ministry.

Speaker 7 (54:53):
And that's the hard spot because it's like when you're
vulnerable like you aren't, people connect to you and they
need it. But at the same time you got the
people on the other side, and some people run away
from being vulnerable because of that.

Speaker 20 (55:03):
What's crazy is you won't see negativity unless you seek
it out, turn your phone off and then and then
if somebody is negative enough to hop in my comments section,
they really just like me.

Speaker 1 (55:15):
You really like me a lot. So it's like, just do.

Speaker 20 (55:19):
Just deal with your insecurities on your own and I'll
be here when you're When you're done.

Speaker 4 (55:23):
You're gonna put that tape out enticed guys, it might
have seen what you was doing that it's not sexy.

Speaker 1 (55:30):
It's not sexy.

Speaker 4 (55:31):
That kept my stock like be hones, how many people
in your dms like, yo, what's up?

Speaker 1 (55:35):
It was a lot. See what I'm saying, It's like,
it's like nobody with me.

Speaker 20 (55:41):
Nobody's that attractive when theyre coming at you on that
end of your life.

Speaker 7 (55:45):
You know, like it wasn't nobody that you like. Well,
they sent their numbers, so let me at least just you.

Speaker 1 (55:51):
Know, maybe.

Speaker 6 (55:59):
Yo, you need something?

Speaker 1 (56:00):
Am I number past? Yeah, a lot of makeup artists
hit me up. Listen.

Speaker 20 (56:12):
Gave me an opportunity to expand my audience. It's like,
oh you like this, so we everywhere with it.

Speaker 4 (56:21):
I wonder because hip hop is gonna always struggle with
conversations around sexuality, vulnerability, masculinity.

Speaker 1 (56:27):
Do you think what you went through moved the culture
forward in anyway?

Speaker 20 (56:30):
I mean I think it was pre dated a little
bit with me with Frank and the Tyler did and
all that kind of and then I feel like you
just gotta not go out like back in the day,
I shouldn't have said that.

Speaker 1 (56:45):
I shouldn't said that, But how the Internet did that?
You know? That was that look? But yeah, that's you.

Speaker 20 (56:50):
You kind of had that same Yeah, Like it was
like we was fifteen years past that. So you know,
I think I was just hitting a nice little soft cushion.

Speaker 4 (56:59):
When people look back at this chapter of your life,
what do you hope they understand that headlines got wrong.

Speaker 20 (57:04):
I don't think people will look back at this chapter
like that, after everything is going on, like this is
to be a book note. And I feel like it's
not that surprising. If you know my music and you've
seen me, I'm like, if I wasn't already, yeah, I
was hell affectionate.

Speaker 1 (57:24):
You know, you know it ain't I am who I am.
I'm here, you know, I don't know.

Speaker 20 (57:33):
To mean just four projects who I've been up here
and have been seeing you for the past fifteen years,
or I'm here doing something for somebody.

Speaker 4 (57:40):
I respect anybody who's not afraid to be who they are.

Speaker 1 (57:45):
That is it? Like I don't care, don't I don't care?
You know what I'm saying. And I'm sure it's a
bunch of other people that feel that way too.

Speaker 20 (57:53):
I think most people, we all we all got somebody
in our family, you know what I'm saying, to some
extent of who's by gay or somewhere in between or
transitioning or whatever. So here's and it's like not even
to make it a thing. It's like you're I don't know,

(58:14):
on a scientific level, you're very much predisposed if you
come from a broken.

Speaker 1 (58:19):
To have some type of sex. You curiosity. Some paper
it might be wrong, but yeah, hell, because you're searching
for a need for something.

Speaker 20 (58:27):
It's just the dynamics of relationships. I was like, you know,
if you if you only grew up around women, you
know some of your habits, or if you only grew
up around men, some of your habits and how you
view things. A girl, that group that was raised by men,
you can't be surprised when you start liking girls.

Speaker 4 (58:45):
I think it's just something. Yeah, like you said, I
just think it's biological. I don't know if.

Speaker 20 (58:50):
It's I think it's a combination. Some people are some,
some nurture some and some of it's a combination. And
it's not up to me to determine. It's gonna take
up too much of my life besides just being okay
with it.

Speaker 1 (59:05):
You are who you are, You are you are, So
what's the more of the story, man? From everything you've
been through? Is it fame? Exposure? Healing?

Speaker 20 (59:12):
All of it is by my album so I can
take care of my family.

Speaker 1 (59:16):
It's been awful it's been awful.

Speaker 20 (59:18):
The bills are high, h the government's weird. They want
to take parks away from people, and a whole bunch
of others that I don't have to get into because
I don't get paid to do that. But definitely just
about the album, man. By the album, it'll do something
nice for you, do something positive for your mental and

(59:39):
either you're gonna love it and feel seen or you're
gonna put it up until you need it.

Speaker 1 (59:46):
But it's gonna come back around.

Speaker 4 (59:47):
It's been awful, man, Isaia Rashad, It's been a pleasure
at least to talk to you.

Speaker 1 (59:51):
Thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you.
Go get the album. It's been awful everywhere you buy music. Now,
let's get to the latest one. Lauren talk cool bad.

Speaker 6 (01:00:01):
Yeah, I'm not dumbing myself down. I'm being myself.

Speaker 7 (01:00:07):
I'm the homegroud that knows a little bit about everything
and everything.

Speaker 1 (01:00:11):
The little brown girls look at you and go, I
want to be like you.

Speaker 7 (01:00:13):
Take me on the breakfast club.

Speaker 6 (01:00:21):
Talk to me all right, guys.

Speaker 7 (01:00:24):
So we have been following the story of uh the
reported shooting in the vicinity of celebrities homes and one
of the celebrities that people are trying to point to
us Chris Brown. And we talked about yesterday how I
spoke to police and they could not confirm anything about
Chris Brown's home. They said they didn't speak to Chris Brown,
that there's a bunch of celebrities that live on this block.
Now there's a new update here that is mentioned in

(01:00:46):
the man who was arrested, who I found out yesterday
was released on the fifty thousand dollars bond was a
part of Chris Brown's security team, and that as of
the story breaking on Friday, he was relieved of his duties. Now,
I did speak to LA PD again on this story,
and they again pointed out the fact that this did
not happen at Chris Brown's home, that they can confirm

(01:01:06):
that it was in the vicinity, and they cannot confirm
that this man was a part of Chris Brown's security team.

Speaker 6 (01:01:11):
I'm so confused at the very end.

Speaker 7 (01:01:13):
And what I will say is because you know, whenever
you're talking to a PIO source or a law enforcement
source on the record, is much different than if you
have a person inside of the agency, the police agency,
who was willing to talk to you on background, and
at this point I think that that's what it is,
that there's information coming from both sides of things. But
on the record, police are not willing to mention any
of the stories that I'm reporting now. But I did

(01:01:35):
reach out on it because I knew that we'd have
some questions in the follow up because of our story yesterday.

Speaker 1 (01:01:38):
What about the person that got arrested. Whatever happened to him?

Speaker 6 (01:01:40):
He was arrested and then he was really bond and
now he's gonna have to go to court.

Speaker 1 (01:01:44):
Did they say what happened while I was he arrested?
The shooting, Like.

Speaker 7 (01:01:46):
The shooting did have the shooting of the bay. I
told you guys yesterday, police said that it was a
BB gun. It did happen, but it was not in
connection to Chris Brown that that police. But who arrest
was a woman in a car that called the police.
There's a police We talked.

Speaker 1 (01:02:01):
About this yesterday.

Speaker 4 (01:02:02):
Yeah, so that it sounded like a regular gun.

Speaker 1 (01:02:08):
I don't know, you shoot an ass Like what happened?
Like why what did he call the police?

Speaker 6 (01:02:11):
Like what she called the police?

Speaker 7 (01:02:12):
Because she was I mean, she probably was scared allegedly, right,
like she's in the car.

Speaker 6 (01:02:16):
The guy is a legend.

Speaker 1 (01:02:17):
Calling the police on you if you hit me with
a B gun.

Speaker 6 (01:02:19):
The guy is a legend that she ran over. They
were in an argument, a verbal argument.

Speaker 7 (01:02:22):
She ran over his foot with the car and then
he shot what she thought was a weapon, but police
was saying that it was a CO two style BB
gun and the.

Speaker 6 (01:02:30):
Guy was arrested.

Speaker 1 (01:02:30):
I didn't say that yesterday. I did so that he
ran over the guy's foot, I did so.

Speaker 4 (01:02:34):
I don't remember running over back and listen, I remember
her saying that he got shot with an official Red
Rider Carbon Action two hundred shot range model air rifle,
but I don't remember.

Speaker 1 (01:02:41):
The two gun she said yesterday.

Speaker 6 (01:02:43):
Yeah, I said that yesterday.

Speaker 7 (01:02:44):
But the whole point in this was the whole security
guards information. Police are not willing to go on record
about that either. And Chris Brown again has spoke out
and said he didn't know any of this was happening
at all.

Speaker 4 (01:02:54):
That's the sad part. How did Chris Brown get attached
to this? That's what I'm still nobody just wanted to
some clicks.

Speaker 1 (01:03:00):
Bro.

Speaker 7 (01:03:00):
I'm trying to figure that out, like I'm really trying
to figure that out. And I know, I've tried to
reach out to Chris Brown's team, but they aren't responding,
he posted on Instagram. Police are the only people that'll
talk to me, and they are not attributing any of
this to Chris Browns. So okay, yes, and moving on.
Yesterday we talked about Young Miami U Kritia. She was
down in Miami for a formula one weekend and there
was a party happening and she stopped the DJ. Now,

(01:03:22):
we discussed that yesterday and she's had to come out
and apologize since then.

Speaker 6 (01:03:26):
Let's take a listen.

Speaker 1 (01:03:27):
We was in Miami.

Speaker 22 (01:03:28):
I was in the spa at the moment, you know,
just trying to get it, trying to turn a.

Speaker 6 (01:03:31):
Part of down on the porn grow.

Speaker 22 (01:03:32):
I was just she ain't really trying to have a
good time. The video took place, and I just want
to send a publicly apology.

Speaker 6 (01:03:40):
To DJ Shan shot at DJ Sewan.

Speaker 22 (01:03:42):
It was never my intentions to publicly disrepect somebody and
make somebody look crazy Again. I was just trying to
turn up half on have a good time and happened publicly.
So I'm sending my public publicly apology to DJ Shawn.

Speaker 7 (01:03:55):
Mack and there we have it and we can move
I saw people, you know, not accepting apology, which I
think is crazy, Like if she's correcting in a real time,
let her do that and then move on.

Speaker 5 (01:04:04):
Because it sounds like she apologized because she got you know,
all the DJ started hitting on and I'm sure the
label hit her. That's what it seemed like the apology
came from. But before it, it just wasn't like your trash.
She went on a little ramp, like she.

Speaker 7 (01:04:15):
She said, but she mentioned and in the shape room
comments also mentioning that you know, she was a little drunk,
she was having a good time and she didn't mean
any harm by it. So I think you got to
take it that face value, right.

Speaker 1 (01:04:24):
It is what it is. I mean she felt that way.
If she felt that way, that's her opinion on that.

Speaker 5 (01:04:28):
I thought it was wrong, But you know, if she
felt that way, she felt that way, don't don't change
up now because you know that backlash and the labels
mad at you if you felt something was like that,
just like if somebody doesn't like her record, or somebody
that they're gonna say the record, is.

Speaker 6 (01:04:41):
You upset? Just as a DJ, and I understanding.

Speaker 1 (01:04:44):
Staying on it. If that's how you feel, that's how
you feel, you can take it back.

Speaker 5 (01:04:47):
Like we've said, records of trash and not just her,
but anybody's record that we don't like.

Speaker 1 (01:04:52):
But if we don't take it back when we like,
we hurt the person's feeling.

Speaker 4 (01:04:55):
But if she was if she was a little intoxicated
and she jumped on that microphone and she did something.

Speaker 1 (01:05:00):
Different, she can apologize. You can't tell her to keep
staying on it.

Speaker 5 (01:05:05):
I'm not saying stand and be like damn, I was
came from the right reason, then yes, absolutely, But if
it became because she got on the backlash yesterday, I didn't.

Speaker 1 (01:05:13):
Really say her getting.

Speaker 6 (01:05:18):
A ton of people.

Speaker 7 (01:05:19):
I saw DJE, I saw DJ's making videos.

Speaker 6 (01:05:22):
Kick Capri make a video.

Speaker 1 (01:05:24):
Different Chicago was on her ass.

Speaker 4 (01:05:28):
Kick Caprikay, now you make j you got an album
coming out and you're gonna need your record.

Speaker 6 (01:05:32):
And that was the conversation.

Speaker 1 (01:05:33):
Why can't you just say that. I just said that.
I said, do it for the right reason. She did
it for the right reasons.

Speaker 4 (01:05:38):
What you're saying is a bunch of DJs gave her backlash,
and she's got an album coming out and she's gonna
want her records played, and she don't need the DJs
not playing her music because of what she did. The
DJ Shawn Mac And that's what it sounds like me. Okay,
all right, I get it now, Like who the hell
is day Twitter? Give a damn bout Twitter? But the djam.

Speaker 1 (01:05:59):
You know what time? Okay?

Speaker 7 (01:06:02):
All right now that's the latest for this hour and
the next hour will be back with someone.

Speaker 1 (01:06:07):
All right now, Charlamne, who you giving that donkey too? Man?

Speaker 4 (01:06:09):
For after the hour? As if y'all needed more reason
to know why you should tip people. Okay, we need
a guy named Zachary what was his name, Zachary Nicholas
watching to come to the front of the congregation.

Speaker 1 (01:06:21):
We would like to have a word with him, please,
all right, we'll get to that next. It's the Breakfast Club.
Good morning, man.

Speaker 11 (01:06:25):
I wanted to know how you came up with the donkey.

Speaker 1 (01:06:28):
Of the name now, because you.

Speaker 4 (01:06:34):
Get a bunch of donkeys out in the streets. I
remember life where we write our tongue based off who
we may have famed.

Speaker 1 (01:06:39):
We never would.

Speaker 21 (01:06:40):
Say on the Breakfast Club in the words of Charlemagne
and God, he's a donkey.

Speaker 1 (01:06:55):
Oh Man, Charlemagne, you've given dunkeys day to who? Now?

Speaker 4 (01:07:00):
Well buster rhymes donkey today for Tuesday, May fifth, Saint
goes to Mayo.

Speaker 1 (01:07:04):
Let's go in.

Speaker 4 (01:07:04):
May goes to Mayo.

Speaker 1 (01:07:08):
Ahead, Tenko to Mayo.

Speaker 4 (01:07:10):
Done to day goes to thirty six year old Zachary
Nicholas Watson of Missouri. Now, Zachary was arrested in charge
with armed criminal action, first degree assault, our attempt and.

Speaker 1 (01:07:20):
Leaving the scene of an accident. Now, what caused Zachary
to do all that?

Speaker 21 (01:07:26):
Uh?

Speaker 4 (01:07:26):
The answer is nothing, All right, There's absolutely zero reason
to commit the crimes he's committed.

Speaker 1 (01:07:32):
But unfortunately, we live.

Speaker 4 (01:07:33):
On a planet where economic strife is causing people amongst
us to become nuts, okay, radicalized, And the reality is
some folks are feeling so much economic pain that they
are fed up and willing to risk it all. I
don't know why I gotta keep having to tell you
all this, but it is the reality of the situation.

Speaker 1 (01:07:50):
Well, what did Zachary do? Let's go to us Daily
Crime for the report. Police.

Speaker 23 (01:07:54):
Zachary Nicholas Walton, a Domino's delivery driver, recently faced allegations
in Missouri. Police alleged Walton intentionally struck a customer with
his car. The incident occurred during a dispute. The dispute
centered on the customer not providing a tip. Walton reportedly
used his vehicle to hit the customer. This occurred outside
the customer's residence.

Speaker 1 (01:08:15):
You can't even order.

Speaker 4 (01:08:16):
Pizza and breadsticks and wings no more without the threat
of dying, okay, Zachary big Z you hit somebody with
a car over a tip.

Speaker 1 (01:08:26):
Okay, a tip?

Speaker 4 (01:08:28):
And if you read the article, I was reading the article,
not just listening to the news report. He said he
only did it to scare him. I promise you if
you simply said to that man, next time, leave a tip,
or say, hey, are you really gonna trust someone with
your food that you don't tip?

Speaker 1 (01:08:43):
That's just the scariest running to hit me with a car.

Speaker 4 (01:08:45):
By the way, Okay, I'll be thinking about that every
time I'll order something and making sure I'll leave a tip.
If somebody whispers that to me, by the way, that
is actually the reason you should tip. I mean, people
are gonna be crazy regardless, but I feel like if
you treat somebody right, put some good energy out there,
give them the dignity of a tip. I think a
little differently about tampering with your food. And I know tipping,
coach is confusion, confusing, right, because you constantly questioning yourself

(01:09:07):
should I tip?

Speaker 1 (01:09:08):
Or how much should I tip? What do you mean?

Speaker 4 (01:09:10):
I have to add gratuity because the person is breathing.
But nowhere in the tipping guidelines does it say.

Speaker 1 (01:09:16):
If I choose not to tip.

Speaker 4 (01:09:18):
Okay, if I don't tip, I'm gonna get run over
by two thousand and eight Nissan Altima.

Speaker 1 (01:09:23):
All right, that doesn't even happen on GTA. Listen. I
know not getting a tip is frustrating people like get it.

Speaker 4 (01:09:29):
You're driving around gas high as hell, people order it
eighty that was worth for food and giving you nothing.
That hurts, but you know it hurts more aintal sex, Okay,
being penetrated by a man during one hundred years in
a prison, that is what you don't want, and that
is the risk you run, sir, Okay, because you didn't
do your jail math.

Speaker 1 (01:09:47):
Your jail math is when you calculate if what you
are about to do is worth the time?

Speaker 4 (01:09:52):
Okay, all right? Is what you are about to do
worth the time? That you will get for doing it,
and this ain't it okay. You was completely in the
wrong from the beginning. You started the argument, you escalated it,
you used your vehicle as a weapon.

Speaker 1 (01:10:06):
Then you left the scene because you didn't get a tip.

Speaker 4 (01:10:09):
Now you're facing charges like first three or so armed
criminal action, leaving the scene, all because somebody said, nah,
I'm good on the tip, Zachary. Did you ever stop
to think that maybe, just maybe the person who ordered
the food couldn't afford to tip you. What if that
individual was spending his last to eat? Okay, what if
that person would love to tip you but just couldn't

(01:10:30):
afford to do so. Did you ever stop to think
that you're not the only person out here dealing with
financial issues?

Speaker 1 (01:10:36):
Okay, Zachary.

Speaker 4 (01:10:37):
If your emotional intelligence is so low that a missing temp,
a missing tip, turns into attempted vehicular homicide, then you
are the one who doesn't deserve the tip.

Speaker 1 (01:10:49):
I don't like when you laugh when I say that word.

Speaker 4 (01:10:51):
Okay every time, homicideide, homocide, comicide. Now, Zachary, you didn't
just lose your tip. You lost your job, your freedom,
and possibly your boonkie.

Speaker 1 (01:11:05):
For five dollars, please.

Speaker 4 (01:11:09):
You see, I'm trying to tell you and that's just
the tip. That was just the tip. Jesus didn't put
it all the way in yet. Please give Zachary Nicholas
watching the Sweet Sounds of the Hamiltones.

Speaker 1 (01:11:19):
Oh no, you are the doggie of the day, all
the doggie all the day.

Speaker 3 (01:11:33):
Yee.

Speaker 1 (01:11:37):
Always do your jail math ladies and gettlemen. Okay.

Speaker 4 (01:11:39):
Your jail math is when you calculate if what you
are about to do is worth the time that you
will get for doing it.

Speaker 1 (01:11:46):
Always got to remember that.

Speaker 5 (01:11:48):
All right, Well, thank you for that donkey of the day. Yes, indeed,
now when we come back, a Zuri Hall will be
joining us.

Speaker 1 (01:11:54):
My girl Zori.

Speaker 5 (01:11:55):
She was on the twenty twenty six met Galla Red
Coppet last night for EA, so we're gonna talk to
her when we come back.

Speaker 1 (01:12:00):
She woke up early for this. So the Zuri Hall
when we come back. It's the Breakfast Club.

Speaker 5 (01:12:03):
Good morning morning, Everybody's DJ n V Jess hilarious, Chelamaine
the guy. We are the Breakfast Club lawl the Rose
is here as well. We have Zuri Hall in the builder.
She covered the twenty twenty six met Galla red carpet
last night for eight and.

Speaker 1 (01:12:15):
I know she gotta be tired. And also, Zerry, big
up your self. That's right. We tell about stuff.

Speaker 8 (01:12:19):
Thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you. I appreciate it.
It was corusetted. I've got the scars to prove it now.
The necklace was so high. It's painful, but beauty is pain.

Speaker 7 (01:12:29):
How long does your prep take? Like, how long are
you like I'll start like looking for your dress throughout
the year.

Speaker 1 (01:12:33):
You got to get two o'clock, so you started nine
in the morning.

Speaker 6 (01:12:35):
Yeah, you hear me. The glam genuinely.

Speaker 8 (01:12:37):
I think they pulled up to my hotel room around
eight thirty am. We were in the chair by eight
forty five and then yeah, I was on my way
to the met by you know, we do the rounds,
we do the glam bot.

Speaker 6 (01:12:45):
Do all the pictures, all that stuff. But yeah, two
o'clock we're.

Speaker 8 (01:12:48):
In position at the met How long it takes me, Laura,
You'd be surprised how last minute the glam is for us,
because like, really the fashion is important, but I'm also
super focused on just like this and like who's coming,
what do I need to know? What do I need
to ask them my dress. This was the longest out
I'd ever prepped.

Speaker 6 (01:13:08):
I think a week and a half, two weeks out.

Speaker 8 (01:13:10):
But sometimes I've had gowns that are getting the final touches,
like the day before, two days before last year, I
wore an incredible designer, bish Me Fromarty for the super
Fine Black Taylor, and he's incredible. Was on Project Runway
out of Baltimore, so talented, and he did a custom look.
So that was him just working up until those final
few days.

Speaker 1 (01:13:28):
So every year is different. You've been doing this for
like a decade.

Speaker 4 (01:13:31):
How has social media changed what celebrities are willing to
say to you on the red card?

Speaker 13 (01:13:36):
Oh?

Speaker 6 (01:13:36):
I love that question.

Speaker 8 (01:13:38):
It has changed a lot, because that's part of the
reason people didn't stop last night. I think it's just
there's such a risk of things being taken out of context.
We live in a clip economy at this point, right, Like,
it is not often that people are like, wow, that
was an interesting sixty seconds. I have an idea about that,
but I think I'm gonna go watch the full hour
long conversation first.

Speaker 6 (01:13:59):
Before I post a hot take.

Speaker 8 (01:14:01):
Right, And so, I think people have become more cautious
they've become more savvy, and I think they that's also
why we're seeing more public figures and celebrities who traditionally
would not be behind a mic in the way that
we are getting behind the mics or going to their
friends to have the conversations behind the mics, because they
really need to trust that they have what they believe

(01:14:22):
is a safe space. Some might also argue a softball space, right, like,
you're not going to get asked the hard hitting questions
if it's your bestie who's doing.

Speaker 6 (01:14:29):
The podcast conversation with you.

Speaker 8 (01:14:32):
But that's just the world, the media landscape that I
think we live in, and I'm sure y'all see it
often here often, probably experience it often with your interviews.
But it definitely changes the level of transparency, you know.
But I will say, after eleven years of doing this,
you start to build the trust right where I take
pride in people coming to me Like The Rock last night,

(01:14:54):
Dwayne was not really doing a ton of process.

Speaker 1 (01:14:56):
Start not first name basis, no Dwayne the.

Speaker 8 (01:15:00):
Rock Johnson, mister Johnson. He stopped and we've got a
great interview history. He met my dad and MAUI when
I covered the Mawana two carpet. So over the years
you start to get that feeling of Okay, I can
go to her, I can trust her.

Speaker 6 (01:15:15):
She's gonna ask me smart questions.

Speaker 8 (01:15:17):
They're gonna be fair, but I'm not gonna, you know,
pull a gotcha or anything like that.

Speaker 5 (01:15:23):
Yeah, what were some of your favorite outfits for people
that are listing. You're driving into work right now. Maybe
didn't they didn't see the met Gallo, what were some
of your favorite outfits and why for last night?

Speaker 8 (01:15:33):
I mean, I loved it's so obvious, it's so on
the but Rihanna and Asap like they're always worth the way.
I love how you know they are always doing their
own thing and yet somehow feel very cohesive. I believe
Rihanna was in Mason Margella. I loved seeing Damson indests.
I just I loved the hair. I loved the pop
of red. I thought it was understated outside of.

Speaker 1 (01:15:55):
Was that diamonds Beyonce was warming? Was that old diamonds?
I've seen a report that said it was all diamonds.

Speaker 6 (01:16:00):
Imagine it'd be anything less. I mean Sarrowsky Christo perhaps
I don't.

Speaker 8 (01:16:04):
Know, said I'm like, that's about yeah, yeah, yeah, No,
she looked incredible.

Speaker 6 (01:16:10):
I mean she was shying.

Speaker 8 (01:16:10):
Had to tell Blue Ivy was a vibe for that
to be her first megal of a carpet.

Speaker 6 (01:16:14):
I mean, she's so cool. She's so cool.

Speaker 8 (01:16:17):
She's got such a presence and you can tell that
she like, I'm so excited to see her evolution, Like
her star power that she oozes is so effortless.

Speaker 6 (01:16:27):
The shade. It was so sweet when I asked Beance, like,
how are you feeling tonight? And she said, I feel
so good. My baby's here.

Speaker 8 (01:16:33):
She pointed to Blue and it was like Blue was
just doing her things solo on the carpet. Jay's watching
like a proud dad, and it's like we've all kind
of watched her grow up, so to see her in
a moment like that, completely cool under pressure.

Speaker 6 (01:16:45):
She was really fun to see.

Speaker 5 (01:16:46):
One of the one other question, one of the Jenna
girls had like a body suit. Then it was like
a dress off of a body soup that I see
something though, Kylie, I don't know the names.

Speaker 7 (01:16:56):
She had blonde eyebrows. Yes, you're talking about Kylie?

Speaker 8 (01:17:00):
Wait wait wait wait who what with the body?

Speaker 13 (01:17:05):
Yeah?

Speaker 6 (01:17:05):
Yeah, that was Kylie Jenner I don't know what I
don't know what design that was.

Speaker 8 (01:17:09):
She didn't stop and talk, And honestly, so much of
my job, like in the moment, if I am not
getting the information directly from them, I don't know until later,
right because in my ear, they're mostly like so and
sows on the carpet. Try to get I rememb're talking
about the moment, and then our guys in the studio
are covering the actual fashion details.

Speaker 6 (01:17:27):
So I'm getting the how are you feeling, who were
you with? What was the prep?

Speaker 17 (01:17:30):
Like?

Speaker 8 (01:17:31):
Talk to the talk to me about the road to
the gala, and then we'll toss back to the studio
and they've actually got the details being fed to them
in real time.

Speaker 6 (01:17:38):
So unless someone comes up to me and says.

Speaker 8 (01:17:40):
I'm with Michael Cores and I'm wearing Michael Cores, I'm
finding out honestly a lot of the time, like the
rest of y'all, Like right Afterrelliarelli, Yeah, oh that looks
Scaparelli too, I mean so structural, it's yeah, she was
just I.

Speaker 1 (01:17:53):
Want to ask about you.

Speaker 4 (01:17:54):
It was a moment in your career where you felt
underestimated and how I think.

Speaker 6 (01:17:59):
You know that this one Charle Mayne.

Speaker 8 (01:18:02):
I think in New York, like when I was, and
I don't know if it was underestimated. So much is
underutilized through no fault of like the networks. But you know,
I was at MTV. I had signed this overall deal.
I was super excited about it. I thought, this is
like my big break. I've actually been talking about it
on my Instagram, like this plot twist series because there's

(01:18:23):
some changes coming my way with my career soon too
that I'm actually excited about. But I felt underestimated because
it's like put me in coach, like I know what
I can do if I'm just given the right opportunities.
And I just think it was a lack of opportunity.
It wasn't a time where there was a ton of development.
You were a blessing, right. Those opportunities with MTV and

(01:18:44):
MTV two, with everything that you had going on, really
helped shape.

Speaker 6 (01:18:47):
Me in that moment and sort of give me a
confidence that I was kind of losing in that moment.
Quite frankly.

Speaker 8 (01:18:54):
But I think I've always been kind of underestimated. I'm
traditionally I've been shyer than people expect, and so growing
up The most you would hear me talk is if
I was on stage or on screen. I think that's
probably why I pursue this career. It was kind of
like permission to take up space. And so because of that,
when I would come into a room, I would always
be undrest she gonna talk?

Speaker 6 (01:19:15):
Now, what she gonna say? He wants to my come on?

Speaker 4 (01:19:16):
I never understood that though, because I never understood why
MTV just didn't use you the way he was using you.

Speaker 1 (01:19:21):
You could have been doing the same thing in the
Red Carbage.

Speaker 6 (01:19:23):
That's that's true.

Speaker 8 (01:19:24):
But you know, like, did we have shows like that
at MTV at the time, because I know the MTV
that I you know, we all on the ward showing,
that's true, That's very true.

Speaker 1 (01:19:33):
And the music awards, the movie awards. Yeah, they had
plenty of awards.

Speaker 24 (01:19:37):
I know.

Speaker 6 (01:19:37):
The irony is as soon as I moved to LA
and got.

Speaker 8 (01:19:39):
The job at E News, I got flowed to New
York to go cover like the MTV movie and all
that stuff. Yes, there was some irony there, but it
all works out how it was supposed to work out.

Speaker 4 (01:19:50):
You know, how do you handle rejection in an industry
where everything is so public?

Speaker 1 (01:19:54):
Facing. I guess I.

Speaker 8 (01:19:55):
Think I have always been so used to know, like
I just don't know is not yet for me. My
senior year of high school, you know, our one of
our English teachers gave everybody a word, and mine was
tenacious tenacity.

Speaker 6 (01:20:08):
I don't even think I knew what. I had to
google it later, like wait, what what makes me tenacious?

Speaker 1 (01:20:12):
To national say it?

Speaker 8 (01:20:13):
But then I was like, yeah, no, that checks out.
I think I've just always been someone who was raised
with this almost like a healthy delusion.

Speaker 1 (01:20:22):
Right.

Speaker 8 (01:20:22):
My dad is always like, you can do whatever you want,
you can be whatever you want, and not in like
a generic cliche way. Like that man really had me
thinking if I woke up at eighteen or ran.

Speaker 6 (01:20:32):
For president, like they can figure it out. They move
some things, you know exactly.

Speaker 8 (01:20:37):
And he spoke that sort of life into me at
such an early age.

Speaker 6 (01:20:41):
That no is something I never took personally.

Speaker 8 (01:20:43):
I'm like, oh, they just don't know me yet, they
don't see me yet. So I never took that personally.
It's you just haven't been able to experience what it is.

Speaker 6 (01:20:52):
I know I can show you if you give me
the opportunity.

Speaker 8 (01:20:54):
So does it suck that it's a no yeah, but
I'm gonna go get it somewhere else, make it yes,
somewhere else.

Speaker 1 (01:20:58):
How do you feel now, because I know so Hollywood
just got yeah, we have that. How do you take that?

Speaker 8 (01:21:04):
You know, it's bittersweet. It's the indivent era. I think
it's the change, the changing landscape. Right, Like it's been
thirty years that Access Hollywood's been on the air. The
syndication studio is shutting down, so that's affecting all of
the shows that traditionally have relied on syndication.

Speaker 6 (01:21:17):
Caramo, the Steve wil Coast Show, et cetera.

Speaker 8 (01:21:21):
I think I don't want to say the writing was
on the wall with this show specifically. I think just
with that model, I am hopeful that, you know, there
will be some new iteration of the brand.

Speaker 6 (01:21:33):
I think a lot of things are just moving to digital.

Speaker 8 (01:21:36):
But I am also excited about what's next for me,
and there's still so many other opportunities.

Speaker 6 (01:21:41):
I still work with E right when I'm on these.

Speaker 8 (01:21:43):
Big o War Show red carpets, when I'm in those
hosting positions, that's live for me. When I'm doing Fandango
big ticket interviews, one on one exclusives. That's an entirely
different property. American Ninja Warriors coming back this summer on NBC.
So yeah, we've still got that stuff. But I'm excited
to have more time to act, actually build and focus
on IP and ownership. You know, I launched my show

(01:22:04):
Not About Sports earlier this year, and so I'm just
excited to embrace the changes.

Speaker 6 (01:22:08):
I always roll with the punches.

Speaker 8 (01:22:10):
I love it, honestly, the only thing constant has changed, So.

Speaker 6 (01:22:13):
You just gotta rock with it.

Speaker 1 (01:22:14):
I know you.

Speaker 7 (01:22:15):
I know you interviewed the Double Watch product cast right
for the second movie.

Speaker 6 (01:22:19):
Yea, in the second movie.

Speaker 7 (01:22:22):
It's very reminiscent about I feel like what you talk
a lot about in your plot to a series, about how.

Speaker 6 (01:22:26):
Things have to move and adapt and change.

Speaker 7 (01:22:29):
What has been your decision to share as those things
are happening intentionally, right, Like we read about you, but
you're deciding to give us your voice on it as
it happens.

Speaker 8 (01:22:37):
Yeah, I think it's because of that, Like people may
read about it or they may.

Speaker 6 (01:22:41):
Experience me as a host.

Speaker 8 (01:22:43):
I think I got so comfortable being seen without really
being seen, right, showing up hosting the show, being impressive
and focusing on accomplishment only, Like that's always been kind
of a safe space to exist, Like when I'm struggling,
or when I'm confused, or when I'm not sure, it's

(01:23:03):
easier to like be in hiding for that and then
pop back out when I have something impressive and interesting
to say. And the older I get, the more comfortable
and confident I gave, which is who I am and
like where I am in any given moment, the more
I am willing to embrace vulnerability publicly.

Speaker 6 (01:23:19):
And I think we're all in a really interesting time.

Speaker 8 (01:23:22):
You know, there are a lot of women, especially in
transition black women, particularly in the workforce right now, who
at a disproportionate rate are losing their jobs. Right It's
tough right now for everyone, but I think especially for us.
And as I see the comments and I talk with
my followers, I was like, this is honestly a blessing
in disguise, because if I'm willing to be vulnerable about

(01:23:44):
my show going away, and.

Speaker 6 (01:23:45):
I'm willing to do it in real time and be like.

Speaker 8 (01:23:48):
I'm not figuring it out totally yet, but I've been
here before. I've had to ride the waves before, I've
had to navigate the plot to us before, I've always
come out on the other side. And the reason that
I can do this in a steady way is because
of what I've learned.

Speaker 6 (01:24:02):
So let me share that with you.

Speaker 8 (01:24:04):
Let me share while my life didn't collapse, let me
share why I'm excited about a not entirely known future
like that came through a lot of work, a lot
of therapy, a lot of figuring out who I am
and what my identity is outside of my job.

Speaker 6 (01:24:18):
So when I lose a job, I.

Speaker 8 (01:24:19):
Don't I don't lose myself because I've done a lot
of work to figure out who Zouri Hall is when
she's not on air, and so being transparent with the
plot Twist series is just something that I wanted to
share in case it helped anybody else who's also like.

Speaker 6 (01:24:33):
What am I doing with my life?

Speaker 8 (01:24:34):
This is not what I saw for myself, This is
not what I expected.

Speaker 6 (01:24:38):
I did everything right and still and the feedback's been great.
So I'm gonna just keep telling my business in small doses.

Speaker 8 (01:24:48):
Business, something I had to unlearn ooh, that's a good one.

Speaker 1 (01:24:53):
Jar.

Speaker 8 (01:24:54):
Something that I had to unlearn in this business was, Yeah,
that opportunity sometimes and success and or lack thereof, is
not directly tied to my worth truly, because as someone
who growing up my career, my ambitions, my accomplishments, was

(01:25:19):
my identity.

Speaker 6 (01:25:20):
When I was passed.

Speaker 8 (01:25:21):
Over for something, when it was okay, maybe next time,
but not now. Really, I used to take it personally
sometimes just in small moments, And I've realized there's such
a political.

Speaker 6 (01:25:34):
Game to a lot of.

Speaker 8 (01:25:35):
This, you know, and so often the reason that it's
someone else versus you has nothing to do with you.
And there's also something beautiful about being able to say
that is for them, Like what is for them is
for them, what's for me is for me.

Speaker 6 (01:25:51):
And I'm not going to.

Speaker 8 (01:25:54):
Tell myself a lie about who I am or what
I deserve just because someone else this moment thought that.

Speaker 6 (01:26:01):
That wasn't who I was or what I deserved.

Speaker 3 (01:26:04):
And so, yeah, just embracing my worth outside of my
job and who decided that I deserved an opportunity, Yeah,
I just had to unlearn my worthiness being attached to
my output, my creation, my my achievement.

Speaker 4 (01:26:20):
That is so dope because I remember, you know, ten
years ago when they did not know what to do
with at the TV and she was just you know,
up there every day, you know, and I'm just like.

Speaker 1 (01:26:32):
Yeah, she's just doing what she should be doing. Thank you,
thank thank you for joining us this morning.

Speaker 6 (01:26:35):
Thank you for having me. I appreciate it.

Speaker 5 (01:26:37):
And then you know, like I said, I'm gonna put
you in touch, like if you need an intern for
next car, somebody to carry.

Speaker 6 (01:26:42):
Your bag, read, carry things. He used to do it
for DJ Clue.

Speaker 1 (01:26:48):
Really crazy.

Speaker 7 (01:26:57):
Okay, So yesterday, guys, Stefan dig was in court with
his old chef. Now, this is the woman who is
accusing him of assaulting her back in December of twenty
twenty five and not paying her. Her name is Jamelia Adams
and yesterday she had to take the stand in the
courtroom in detail some of the allegations. Let's take a
listen to the chef on the details of the alleged assault.

Speaker 19 (01:27:19):
I was in the bedroom he missed the day, came
into my room, was across.

Speaker 1 (01:27:22):
The bed when you were in the bedroom.

Speaker 15 (01:27:24):
Was the door closed?

Speaker 1 (01:27:26):
Yes?

Speaker 6 (01:27:26):
The doors closed.

Speaker 1 (01:27:27):
So when he came in, did he opened the door? Yes?

Speaker 6 (01:27:30):
Held the door.

Speaker 19 (01:27:31):
He came in and he was intent to hurt me.

Speaker 1 (01:27:33):
No, no, no, Now his entire what actually happened.

Speaker 19 (01:27:36):
He was leaning against the dresser. He asked me to
get up to come here. I got up off the
bed and I came across to him, like I stood
on the side of him.

Speaker 6 (01:27:45):
He was like, what was all? He was talking?

Speaker 1 (01:27:48):
And then what happened?

Speaker 19 (01:27:49):
And I was beginning to say you said, and I
couldn't finish my statement, and he sat He smacked me
with an open hand.

Speaker 9 (01:27:56):
So you said you pushed out and you made a
motion of your hands.

Speaker 1 (01:28:00):
Is that any pushed with your hands?

Speaker 6 (01:28:01):
Yes, around like his stomachus chest his shoulders up to
block his hands.

Speaker 1 (01:28:06):
And then he took his arm and he like came
around my.

Speaker 19 (01:28:09):
Neck with the he began to choke me, to push
her on my neck.

Speaker 1 (01:28:12):
So what's the story now?

Speaker 7 (01:28:14):
So the story is that and I want to say
that Stephan Diggs denies all of those allegations. But the
story is that Stephan Diggs has this chef that that
was previously living with him.

Speaker 6 (01:28:23):
Now they met about chef. Yes, she was a living chef.

Speaker 7 (01:28:26):
They met about four years ago once they started communicating
via Instagram DM and their relationship blossomed in from friends
to her being the living chef. She was working with
them during a recovery year, and then she said their
relationship got complicated because they did have sexual interactions.

Speaker 6 (01:28:43):
She alleges right.

Speaker 7 (01:28:44):
So basically, she was alleging that after they got into
this big argument over another person that was working in
Stephan Dick's home, a woman that she alleges that he
had another sexual relationship with, that he had stopped paying
her and stopped inviting her to things. She talked about,
an art basal trip to Miami. But her issue was
that she's saying that when she confronted him about the

(01:29:07):
non invite and the money, that he put his hands
on her. So now she is in court and she's
allegend these things, and he was actually charged with felony
strangulation and misdemeanor assault, but again he pled not guilty.
He's denying all of the allegations, and his team is
saying that she made all of this up. And in
court yesterday it was the things were not on her
side yesterday whatsoever.

Speaker 1 (01:29:26):
It did.

Speaker 7 (01:29:27):
It began to look like from the picture that the prosecution,
I'm sorry, the defense was painting. They were painting this
picture like she was upset about the fact that he
was in relationships with other women and nothing to do
with what she's claiming now. She actually talked about the
time when she was upset about not going to Miami
with because her and Cardi B had some plans. Let's

(01:29:48):
say a listen, he asked me what was I doing
for the week, and I asked him, Oh, so you
weren't going to tell me that I wasn't able to
come to Art Basil.

Speaker 6 (01:29:57):
He explained why.

Speaker 19 (01:29:59):
And it was because of the situation with me and
the other coworker, Lindsay Bowling. I was upset with him,
not upset at the fact I could go to our bass.
So me and him have a relationship over four and
a half years. He could have told me weeks ahead
of time because me and his girlfriend, Carti B. We
were talking about having.

Speaker 6 (01:30:16):
Like outfits and stuff.

Speaker 19 (01:30:17):
It was like a whole thing being planned, and he
just waited to the last day. So I was more
upset with him not letting me know I wasn't going
to come like at an earlier time.

Speaker 6 (01:30:25):
Yeah, and they're calling his team is calling BS on this.

Speaker 7 (01:30:28):
And it also brought up the fact that like there
were text messages that were deleted and one of The
text message read something to the effect of I want
to ruin that be'es life. So he's in court right
now fighting to clear himself with all of this. So
that started up yesterday and it will be continued, so
we'll keep you guys updated there now. In other news,
So we talked a bit about Chris Brown at the

(01:30:48):
top of the show, but I wanted to bring it
back because what we did not talk about was the music.
You guys know that Chris Brown has a new album
that is coming out, so he actually announced yesterday, it
was like late yes today, he announced some of the
features that will be on his project, so I thought
that it was fair to bring that back in. He
announced that Sexy Red would be on the project. He
also has Leon Thomas on the project, and I know

(01:31:10):
that that song has been moving a bit. I saw
a Lucky Day there as well, and he's you know,
this project was just called Brown. A lot of people
are excited about a new music video that he released
that is in the theme of Sinners. So just wanted
to make sure that we gave that some light too,
because I think a lot of what Chris Brown says
is when he is doing something he's dropping the music.
All people talk about it are the other things.

Speaker 1 (01:31:29):
Today's birthday?

Speaker 6 (01:31:32):
People, Well, well I'm doing in real time. I'm trying to,
you know, do do the best of both worlds.

Speaker 5 (01:31:38):
Born day, breezy and also in the TEENA, today's the
Tina's birthday to.

Speaker 4 (01:31:44):
Sorry, I'm sitting there the teen that this morning about
other things and.

Speaker 7 (01:31:49):
Yes, god, birthday, because I hate when people do that,
like when they're talking to you about one thing and
it's it's something else that's happened, and then they don't know.

Speaker 6 (01:31:58):
Then they find out and be like.

Speaker 1 (01:31:59):
Oh my god, my bad texting Natina this morning.

Speaker 7 (01:32:01):
I'm not in text with Natina, but happy birthday, Natina
if she's watching, definitely a happy birthday.

Speaker 6 (01:32:05):
Yes, yeah, that's the latest.

Speaker 1 (01:32:10):
Birthday. I knew. I was just warming you up with
the others. Nothing all right. Now you're gonna say top Dog.

Speaker 7 (01:32:18):
Yes, it's brought to you by top Dog Law. So
any accident, bigger, small called top Dog Law.

Speaker 5 (01:32:22):
All right, everybody else in People's Choice mixes up. Next,
you want to get your request in eight hundred five
eight five one oh five one.

Speaker 1 (01:32:27):
Let's start off with some Chris Brown. It's the Breakfast Club.
Good morning, Good morning everybody.

Speaker 5 (01:32:31):
It's DJ n V Jess Hilarious, Charlamage to God. We
are the Breakfast Club. We got a special guest in
the building. Yes, indeed, today is Silence the Shame Day.

Speaker 1 (01:32:40):
Ladies and gentlemen. We have Shaunty Dots Welcome. How you feeling.

Speaker 24 (01:32:44):
I'm feeling good.

Speaker 3 (01:32:46):
I had a lot to talk about though, but first
I just want to say this is my ninth time
recording the Breakfast Club for Silence to Shame, the tenth
time because y'all had me on to talk about my
Grief Guide two years ago. So it's like my ten
year and Virtuary two for me on the Breakfast class.

Speaker 1 (01:33:01):
How are you feeling? You kind of studied for a second, so.

Speaker 3 (01:33:03):
You know, and you know, I've had a point, especially
from a mental health perspective, where I keep it real
even I saw you at the accelerator commass and congratulations,
but ladies were coming up to me saying how are
you doing it?

Speaker 24 (01:33:14):
I'm like, it's tough right now, and so.

Speaker 3 (01:33:16):
What should be celebratory for ten years of doing this work?
Being on the front lines. We lost six hundred thousand
dollars of funding two weeks ago.

Speaker 1 (01:33:25):
Wow, what happened?

Speaker 3 (01:33:26):
We lost state funding and we weren't really given a reason.
We were just told it was cutbacks. And so we
know that some of the state funding comes from federal
but then it trickles down. But to do that to
us when we were in the middle of programs. We
just graduated our third cohort for our Silence to Shame
University initiative, which is our college leadership program. We now

(01:33:49):
have over seventy ambassadors, like y'all we doing the work, Like,
how can y'all cut us off for a program we've
already like, we're six months in and you're telling us
you're not gonna like reimburse us for it was a contract,
you know, with the state government.

Speaker 24 (01:34:02):
So I don't know.

Speaker 3 (01:34:04):
I can't say specifically, but I do think it's probably
an effect of what's going on with the administration. Silence
and Shame is not the only organization that has lost funding.
I was talking to doctor Spirit. Seventy five percent of
her funding is gone. You know, we see mental health
organizations merging together. It's a lot easier to merge for
profit companies than nonprofit companies. But one thing I am

(01:34:26):
standing on y'all is my faith and so most people
know I don't impose my faith on anyone, but I'm
trusting God through the storm. And I recently heard this
lady talk about eagles and how eagles are in the
midst of the storm, but they used the wind shear
to propel them up. And I feel like I'm in
the middle of the storm and I'm just gonna store
like an eagle and figure it out because it's money

(01:34:49):
out there, and more importantly, we're saving vibes. You know,
we've impacted millions of people virtually through resources, but just physically,
tens of thousands of people that we've touched through our program,
whether that's our Youth Couke clinic, we have a Youth
Advisory Council, a parent cafe, Parent Advisory Council, the Science
and Shame University, Like you know, we're doing the work.

Speaker 1 (01:35:10):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (01:35:10):
What I don't understand is if you're already hurting people economically, right,
where do they where do they think people are going to,
you know, go to get get help exactly? Like you
know what I mean, Like that that economic strife is
causing mental strife, emotional strife, spiritual strife in a lot
of way.

Speaker 3 (01:35:27):
And what I tell people, y'all, people still look at
mental health sometimes like it's a bad word. I'm like,
we all have mental health. It's how you think, how
you act, and how you feel. And to your point,
if your mental health is not right, your finances won't
be right, your health won't be right. You won't be
able to get married and have children and sustain your
family household.

Speaker 24 (01:35:44):
Like it starts with our wellness in the brain.

Speaker 3 (01:35:47):
And if we just change this concept, that's why we
continue to fight so hard to erase that stigma around it.

Speaker 4 (01:35:52):
I even said that because I didn't even I mean,
I know you told me that, but I didn't know.
I don't think a lot of people know that type
of funding is being cut.

Speaker 6 (01:35:59):
Oh gosh.

Speaker 1 (01:36:00):
Yeah.

Speaker 24 (01:36:01):
And so you know, we've been rallying the truth.

Speaker 3 (01:36:03):
So we're just trying to find more family foundations, you know,
more grand opportunities.

Speaker 24 (01:36:07):
The other thing is, it's may, y'all.

Speaker 3 (01:36:10):
Most of the grant cycles for twenty twenty six are
done all kid twenty seven. So I'm like, y'all just
out here, got us, you know, out here looking crazy.
But again I serve, with good God, we have great followers,
great supporters, and I do want to celebrate the good
work that Silence and Shame has done over the last
ten years.

Speaker 7 (01:36:26):
But that's what's so crazy about like grief, right is
like things because you're probably grieving what you're not able
to do. But even when I saw you at Accelerate Her,
like we could barely talk to each other because people
coming up to you and telling you like they're so
happy to see you, they're proud of you and all
these things that you're doing, and internally you're like, you're.

Speaker 6 (01:36:45):
Literally visiting going through something right now.

Speaker 3 (01:36:48):
And I had an ugly cry at Accelerate Her shout
out to Kim Blackwell. But and I told her, I
was like, I don't I didn't even know that I
was gonna make it here. But it was just that
strength to persevere and to keep going, knowing that when
I'm getting emails else and text from people like my
son is.

Speaker 24 (01:37:01):
A lie because of the work that you do, or
by you.

Speaker 3 (01:37:04):
Even sharing your stories, you know, because this started sounds
the shame started, you know, from me almost taking my
own life in twenty fifteen.

Speaker 24 (01:37:10):
So we've come too far.

Speaker 3 (01:37:12):
We've partnered with national groups like Sony Music Published and
the NFL Players Association, Jack and Jin. We just did
a partnership that we launched with the Home Depot Backyard
in Atlanta.

Speaker 24 (01:37:20):
So I'm hoping that some.

Speaker 3 (01:37:22):
Private donor or even just you know, everyday people who
love and support the work that we do, or might
have a family member that's suffering, you know, might want
to support our organization.

Speaker 4 (01:37:31):
You know, one thing I really want to focus on
me and my good sister Debbie Brown was talking about it,
especially at the Mental Wealth Export this year, is we're
talking about mental health and we're having all these conversations, right,
what are people actually healing?

Speaker 24 (01:37:45):
One hundred percent?

Speaker 3 (01:37:46):
I'm so glad you said that because I feel like
the conversation, especially even with gen Z and I know
Jen Alpha is too young to really talk about it,
but even though some young kids are starting to talk
about it. People are discussing it, but I don't think
they're getting the help that they need. That is why organizations,
you know, like Silence of Shame and even the work
that the Mental Health Coalition does with bringing all the

(01:38:08):
mental health groups together is so super important because it's
about repetition, it's about you.

Speaker 6 (01:38:13):
You got to keep telling people.

Speaker 3 (01:38:14):
To check in with your friends, check in with your
mental health. We have to get a check up every
year you go, you get your physical or even this
thing y'all our cell phone. If you don't charge this
puppy at night, what's gonna happen. It's gonna be dying,
It's gonna be depleted. So if we don't continue to
pour back into our health and wellness.

Speaker 24 (01:38:30):
On a daily basis, then no, we're not healing. And
I think that's what's happening. We're pacifying ourselves. We're putting
band aids on things.

Speaker 3 (01:38:38):
So shout out to all the great therapists, psychiatrist, social
workers is out there on the front lines. But people,
and I talk to people at some companies, You're like, oh, yeah,
we have all those resources, but I don't use them.

Speaker 1 (01:38:49):
Why, well, how can people donate if they need to donate?

Speaker 3 (01:38:53):
Yeah, So again, today's National Silence of Shamed eight ten
years in. So we're doing just a grassroots campaign asking
people to donate ten dollars and then challenge ten of
your friends to give ten dollars. You can text the
words silence to seven O seven seven oh, or you
can visit Silence toshame dot com and I would be
remiss if I didn't shout out my amazing small team
Jewel getting Timeir Megan Nick and Sonya. We are small

(01:39:16):
but mighty and y'all we are saving lives. So please,
if you have anything, if you don't have it, just
post for us. Encourage your friends and families, celebrities, everyday, people, therapists, everybody.
Just please help us to keep continue doing this great work.

Speaker 1 (01:39:30):
In this suicide and crisis lifeline call.

Speaker 3 (01:39:34):
And so nine eight eight is a national resource. It
has replaced what we knew as a national suicide lifeline
one eight hundred two to seveny three.

Speaker 6 (01:39:42):
Talk all y'all.

Speaker 3 (01:39:42):
Gotta do now literally is pick up the phone, y'all
and down nine eight eight. You'll be connected to a
trained crisis counselor that answer the phone, talk to you,
try to understand what you're going through, and push you
to resources. And if the local crisis counseling center is
not available in your state, guess what, it automatically pushes
you to a national number.

Speaker 24 (01:40:01):
It worked for me.

Speaker 3 (01:40:02):
I called the National Suicide Lifeline the night that I
was in crisis, and it helped me.

Speaker 24 (01:40:07):
They talked to me for twenty minutes and talked me off.

Speaker 6 (01:40:09):
I always wonder if it actually help.

Speaker 3 (01:40:11):
I actually sat in my car and talked to them,
and I'm they saved my life that night, and my
sister and my pastor who happens to be centered to warnock.
It helps, y'all, it works. Don't be afraid to get help.
Don't be afraid to reach out and ask for help.
I don't know why I'm getting emotions, but ten years

(01:40:32):
of fighting this good fight, I did not almost take
my own life and start this to end the work
that we're doing. I don't want anybody else to think
that suicide is an option. You know, the former lieutenant
governor of Maryland who took his own life and his
wife's like wife's life. I just my heart goes out
to the kids, to everybody that's going through anything, y'all.

Speaker 24 (01:40:52):
Help is available.

Speaker 3 (01:40:53):
I don't care if you're ten or seventy or fifty.
Where's the camera. I just want to look straight into
camp and tell people it's okay to get help.

Speaker 24 (01:41:02):
Silence to shame around your emotions, y'all.

Speaker 3 (01:41:04):
It's people out here hurting high achievers, hurting students, hurting
family members, hurting, y'all.

Speaker 24 (01:41:11):
We got to erase the stigma. Mental health is no
different than physical health.

Speaker 3 (01:41:14):
So please please please continue to silence the shame and
support our organization.

Speaker 24 (01:41:18):
And if you want to get.

Speaker 3 (01:41:19):
My grief guid you can go to Shanty Does Dot
be IC because it's a lot of people out there
grieving as well.

Speaker 24 (01:41:25):
I love y'all so much. I just want to thank
y'all for always having me here.

Speaker 1 (01:41:28):
Join us. Shanty Does Silence to Shame Day. Make sure
you donate if you can. Now it's a good sister.
Shanty does Man.

Speaker 4 (01:41:35):
Make sure you go out there and support everything she's
doing with Silence to Shame. It is one of my
favorite mental health organizations out there. They really do the
work on the ground, especially in Atlanta.

Speaker 1 (01:41:45):
Jah. All right, well, you got a positive note.

Speaker 4 (01:41:47):
I do never blame another person for your personal choices. Okay,
you are still the one who must live out the
consequences of your choices.

Speaker 1 (01:41:57):
Have a great day, Breakfast Club.

Speaker 5 (01:42:01):
Woke Up, Wake you Up, Wake you up, Wake that
ass up.

Speaker 2 (01:42:04):
Program your alarm to power one oh five point one
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