Today on The Breakfast Club, Dr. Jessica Clemons discusses mental health advocacy, postpartum depression and psychosis, parenthood, and the Lindsay Clancy trial. Montell and Kristin Jordan also talk about their new children’s book, helping kids face their fears, parenting, and parental guilt. Plus, Charlamagne Tha God gives Donkey of the Day to Nigerian nationals extradited over online love scams and money laundering. Listen for more!
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Woke up, woke up, wake you up, wake you up,
wake that ass up, program your alarm to power 105.1
on iHeartRadio. Good morning, USA!
Jess is out, what's up, Lauren?
Speaker 2 (00:15):
Good morning!
Speaker 1 (00:16):
Charlemagne the God! Peace to the planet, it's Monday! Hey,
how y'all feel out there? I feel blessed, black, and
highly favored. Happy to be here. Another day to serve
our beautiful listeners. Good morning. Good morning. What's up, Lauren?
How you feeling? I see you out and about Fashion Week.
Speaker 2 (00:31):
Yes, I am tired, but I am here. I had
a great week, great weekend, great night last night. Unc
took me outside.
Speaker 1 (00:39):
Yeah, we was in these streets last night. That's why
I got on shades right now. Why you have on shades?
I don't know. I feel like my eyes might be
puffy or something.
Speaker 2 (00:48):
No, you got to hold them regular.
Speaker 1 (00:50):
You look fine. I look fine?
Speaker 3 (00:51):
Yes.
Speaker 4 (00:52):
You still feel like last night.
Speaker 1 (00:54):
Last night was fun.
Speaker 4 (00:54):
Yeah, we had a good time last night.
Speaker 1 (00:55):
It was fun. What'd you guys do last night?
Speaker 2 (00:57):
We went to Jay-Z's JN8 documentary premiere in New York.
So I ended my fashion week with that, but fashion
week's still going.
Speaker 1 (01:06):
Yeah, it's still going on.
Speaker 4 (01:08):
It really started Thursday, but people just do their own thing.
Speaker 1 (01:11):
That's crazy, bro. I was at Avizu. Salute to Avizu.
They had a fashion week. You didn't have much fun
as us.
Speaker 5 (01:18):
Huh?
Speaker 1 (01:18):
You ain't have as much fun as us. I sure did.
I think I had more fun than y'all. No, you didn't.
I sure did. I promise you, you did. I promise you,
I did. I promise you, I did. You had a
lot of fun.
Speaker 5 (01:25):
It's crazy.
Speaker 1 (01:26):
I promise you, you did.
Speaker 6 (01:26):
She gonna report in a little bit what my weekend
was like. But, uh, salute to everybody in the VESU.
They had a fast week event. It was like a
block party.
Speaker 3 (01:32):
What is a VESU?
Speaker 1 (01:32):
The jeans. Remember the jeans? These ain't... These is a VESU.
Speaker 7 (01:35):
Oh, yes.
Speaker 1 (01:35):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 6 (01:36):
They had a block party in, uh... I pulled up
to them last night, and then I was in Detroit yesterday.
And salute to everybody at Detroit at the Sandbox. And
I got a chance to watch my Giants play last night.
Speaker 1 (01:47):
The Giants played last night? Not really. They didn't really play.
It was no competition. That's crazy. We'll talk about it
in a little bit. The football season started? Yeah, it started.
Everybody started. Nah, it ain't started. It was no competition, though.
That's crazy. I didn't know it started. Did my team
get the memo? No, they didn't get the memo. They
definitely didn't get the memo. They didn't know what was
going on. That's crazy. We'll talk about that in front page.
(02:09):
That's insane. Tell me about the Hove. What happened at
the Hove event last night?
Speaker 2 (02:12):
We're going to get into it in the latest, but
it was exciting. I got to meet Jay-Z and Beyonce.
Speaker 1 (02:17):
You did? Yes.
Speaker 3 (02:18):
That's crazy.
Speaker 1 (02:18):
That's time.
Speaker 4 (02:20):
They introduced themselves.
Speaker 1 (02:21):
Yes. So humble. So humble.
Speaker 2 (02:24):
Jay-Z was like, I don't think we've met before.
Speaker 1 (02:25):
I'm Jay.
Speaker 4 (02:26):
I was like, duh.
Speaker 1 (02:27):
That's crazy.
Speaker 4 (02:28):
I didn't even know how to respond to that because
I wanted.
Speaker 1 (02:30):
To be like, duh.
Speaker 7 (02:32):
Lauren.
Speaker 1 (02:32):
No, I knew my name, but I'm like.
Speaker 2 (02:34):
Why are you telling me your name?
Speaker 1 (02:35):
They do that all the time. Beyonce does that all
the time. That's what people of respect and honor and
high integrity do.
Speaker 4 (02:41):
Very much so. It was a great night, great room,
but just a good time.
Speaker 2 (02:45):
But the conversation and that documentary, when it drops and
people get to watch it, It's going to be real.
Speaker 1 (02:49):
When does it come out?
Speaker 4 (02:50):
It comes out on the 18th.
Speaker 1 (02:52):
We didn't see it in full either, by the way.
Speaker 5 (02:53):
We didn't.
Speaker 4 (02:53):
We only saw it. I believe it was just a
full episode. We only saw a part of it.
Speaker 1 (02:57):
Was that just an episode?
Speaker 4 (02:58):
I don't even know if it was a full episode,
but we saw a part of the documentary.
Speaker 1 (03:02):
That's crazy. I didn't even think about that. That might
have been a whole episode.
Speaker 2 (03:04):
It felt like it.
Speaker 1 (03:05):
It was great, though. Yeah, because it was like an
hour long. But I thought, for whatever reason, I was
thinking that they were just going to do one song
an episode. But no, they do like three or four
songs an episode.
Speaker 2 (03:13):
And it releases in full on the 18th. But you're
going to write down what it's about. Yeah, we're going
to write down what it's about. And we're going to
get into kind of, you know, what it's about. what
we got to watch and some of the things.
Speaker 1 (03:22):
It's about what all of this should be about, and
that's culture.
Speaker 3 (03:25):
Okay.
Speaker 1 (03:26):
Music and culture. You know what I'm saying? Like, when
we think about what we do, it's really music, and
it's the intersectionality of music and, you know, sometimes, well,
a lot of times, fashion, you know? But, yes, it's
about culture. Okay. It's 30 years of a prolific career.
I would never, ever in my life downplay the inspiration
that somebody like Jay-Z provides for a human like me.
That's right.
Speaker 8 (03:46):
Okay?
Speaker 1 (03:47):
Never ever. All right.
Speaker 2 (03:48):
Jonathan ain't still sweating from last night.
Speaker 1 (03:50):
I see him still sweating. He's sweating. He just got in.
I didn't even drink. It's just everything was hot last night.
You didn't think everything was hot? It was humid.
Speaker 4 (03:56):
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (03:57):
I was just enjoying it. It was humid outside last night.
It was humid outside for a little bit. Then it
was cool in the building. Then it was cool in
the building. But it felt like somebody turned the AC off.
So it was a little hot. Then you start dancing.
You know what I mean? But that was last night.
Why are you still wiping sweat? Because I just ran
up them stairs. Okay, that's the reason why. I just
ran up them two flights of stairs. Well, let's get
this show cracking. And I had on a jacket when
I walked in here. I don't know why. I don't
(04:17):
know why. And I was jogging down the block to
get here.
Speaker 6 (04:19):
Let's get this show cracking. Kristen and Montel Jordan will
be joining us. They have a new children's book, Shiloh
and the Not-So-Scary Girl Above His Bed. I thought it
was Under His Bed.
Speaker 1 (04:30):
It's above his bed? Yeah, it's under his bed. I
don't know why. Not so scary?
Speaker 3 (04:32):
Oh, no, no, no.
Speaker 1 (04:33):
Above his bed because the monster is told from the
perspective of the monster. Right, you're right. So the monster's
under the bed. And also, man, Dr. Jessica Clemons will
be joining us today. Dr. Jessica Clemons is a board-certified psychiatrist.
And the reason I really wanted her here this morning
is because all of these conversations we're having about postpartum
psychosis because of the Lindsay Clancy case. And, you know,
World Mental Health Day is right around the corner, so...
(04:55):
She's a great person to have here to talk to
this morning. All right.
Speaker 6 (04:58):
Well, let's get the show cracking. Today is Nas' birthday. Queens,
get the money. Can we get some Nas on this morning?
Speaker 1 (05:03):
Happy birthday, Nasir. I'll take that. It's the Breakfast Club.
Good morning. Good morning, everybody.
Speaker 6 (05:07):
It's DJ Envy, Jess Hilarious, Charlamagne Tha Guy. We are
the Breakfast Club. Let's get in some front page news.
Speaker 1 (05:14):
Let's start with some football. Seriously, the NFL started? The
Lions beat the Saints 31-30. Shoot to everybody in Detroit.
What up, Doe? The Ravens beat the Colts. The Jets, wow.
Speaker 6 (05:23):
Jets beat the Titans 23-10. The Steelers beat the Falcons.
Vikings beat the Packers. Cardinals beat the Chargers. Eagles beat
the Commanders. Raiders beat the Dolphins. The Bears squashed the
Panthers 59-37. The Bills beat the Texans. The Jaguars beat
the Browns. The Bengals beat the Buccaneers.
Speaker 1 (05:39):
Oh, yeah, and them Giants, where you at, Trav? I
see you all in the game, all in the video.
The Giants beat the Cowboys 28-20. I didn't even know
the NFL season started, Joe. I was watching college football.
South Carolina State, they beat Virginia State 66-0. Okay, USC,
South Carolina Gamecocks, they busted ass on Saturday as well.
Speaker 6 (05:58):
Cowboys looked bad last night. The Cowboys played? I don't believe.
Speaker 3 (06:02):
This, Joe.
Speaker 1 (06:02):
Giants are going to the Super Bowl!
Speaker 2 (06:05):
Didn't it just start?
Speaker 1 (06:06):
I don't care. The Cowboys got smacked. They got squashed. Now,
slow down. The score was 28-20. I thought you'd watch
the game. I didn't, but I heard. Somebody told me.
The score was 28-20. I was out and about last night.
There's nothing about it. The game, the score was 28-20.
I was like, y'all busted ass. We did bust ass.
We did bust ass. Number Friday, oh, y'all gonna lose.
You shut down. You know my squad. You know what
(06:27):
we got. There's no way I said that Friday. There's
no way I said that Friday because I didn't even
know the season was starting Sunday. Good morning, Mimi.
Speaker 9 (06:35):
Good morning, MB, Sheldon, Lauren. How y'all doing this morning?
Speaker 1 (06:38):
Good morning, Tamisha Brown from Howard University.
Speaker 9 (06:42):
Good morning.
Speaker 10 (06:43):
Front Page News is sponsored by Morgan & Morgan, America's
largest law firm.
Speaker 1 (06:48):
Okay, B & B!
Speaker 9 (06:55):
Hey, okay, let's get right into this.
Speaker 10 (06:57):
So President Trump this morning, you guys, is doubling down
on those $ 5, 000 checks we told you about last week.
He's promising those checks to every American adult if Republicans
keep control of Congress. Now, Trump, he first announced this
idea last week, and on Sunday, he was asked, this
was yesterday when he was in Ireland, he was asked
whether Congress would have to approve the money and whether
(07:19):
the government could actually afford it.
Speaker 9 (07:20):
Let's listen.
Speaker 11 (07:22):
If the Republicans win, as I said, it's $ 5, 000 to
all adults in the country, and we can easily handle that.
because we're taking in so much money. We've never done better.
The Democrats can't make that pledge because it'll all go
to hell right away. If the Democrats get in, you'll
go into a depression.
Speaker 1 (07:39):
If we get in, we will continue this incredible situation.
Speaker 9 (07:43):
I mean, we have the strongest, we're the strongest we've
ever been.
Speaker 11 (07:45):
We have trillions of dollars coming into the country. And
the 5,000 is going to everybody.
Speaker 1 (07:50):
I made that pledge. I always keep my pledge. This
is what I don't understand, right? Like, you know, Republicans
currently control both chambers of the U.S. Congress. Why don't
somebody just ask him a simple question? How come you
just don't give people the checks now?
Speaker 9 (08:02):
Right now.
Speaker 1 (08:03):
Why you just don't do it right now? Like, I
don't understand why the media is even playing this game
with him. Somebody's had to ask him that already, right?
Speaker 10 (08:11):
I thought of it because right now there's already Republicans
and both in the Senate and in the House and
the presidency.
Speaker 1 (08:19):
So they hold majorities in both of them in the
House and Senate. You cut the check now.
Speaker 12 (08:23):
Exactly.
Speaker 9 (08:24):
Exactly.
Speaker 10 (08:25):
But it's important to say that critics are calling this
a campaign bribe, an attempt to buy votes, and they
are telling voters not to fall for it.
Speaker 9 (08:33):
And so we will continue to follow that.
Speaker 10 (08:35):
But Congress would also have to vote on something like that.
The president does not have the power to just give
everyone a $ 5, 000 check. And this morning, there's a major
shakeup coming to SNAP benefits, and it's supposed to happen
at the end of September. So This is all part
of President Trump's one big, beautiful bill. So there are
already work requirements in place, which have made it harder
(08:57):
for people to keep their SNAP benefits, not to mention
the administrative hurdles signing up now takes. Those extra steps
have led people, you know, just being kicked off the program.
And now what's new this morning is the question of
who is going to bear the cost of SNAP, the
administrative costs. So right now states pay half, but starting
October 1st, they'll pay 75%, and that could lead to
(09:21):
more people being kicked off because that's a bigger burden
for states to bear.
Speaker 9 (09:25):
So right now it's 50-50.
Speaker 10 (09:26):
Starting October 1st, states will have to take on more
of that cost and pay 75%. Food access groups, they're
calling for Congress to push this back. They say states
need more time to figure out how they're going to
come up with this extra funding so that people do
not get kicked off of their SNAP benefits. So we
will continue to watch that. And lastly, you may have
(09:47):
noticed that gas prices keep creeping.
Speaker 1 (09:49):
Back up in national average. They are high.
Speaker 12 (09:51):
Yes.
Speaker 9 (09:53):
They have definitely gone way back up.
Speaker 10 (09:55):
So just 13 cents in the last week, about 30
cents in this month.
Speaker 9 (09:59):
So we're at about $ 4.
Speaker 10 (10:00):
30. But the diesel, diesel may be the bigger story.
It is now the highest it's ever been, topping $ 6
a gallon nationwide. The average is $ 6. In California, it's
like $ 8. 30 for the first time. And that matters because
even if you don't drive diesel, you don't drive. Truckers
do in those trucks. They move your food. They move
your clothes. Just about anything you buy. And so here's
(10:23):
what everyday people are saying about the gas prices.
Speaker 1 (10:25):
This is crazy out here. You work so hard to
make ends meet and... take care of your family, and
next thing you know, gas went up overnight.
Speaker 13 (10:33):
I just wish that gas prices were a lot cheaper
so we could all do things that are extra, you know,
like groceries.
Speaker 10 (10:40):
It's now $ 48 to fill my, to do a half
a tank.
Speaker 1 (10:44):
Isn't that awful? That's a crime. And your president got
the nerve to tell y'all we're going to a depression.
If Dems get back in power in the midterms, the
truth of the matter is we might, though, because we
are already on that trajectory because of Donald Trump and
all the foolish policies he's implemented that have us in
this current debacle that we're in. All right.
Speaker 10 (11:02):
Coming up at seven, we're learning more about the mysterious
death of Tasia Fortune. Police say they have arrested a suspect,
but we'll tell you why some people don't. Or having
a hard time believing that it was actually the suspect.
Speaker 9 (11:13):
We'll get into it.
Speaker 3 (11:14):
All right.
Speaker 1 (11:14):
Everybody else, get it off your chest. 800-585-1051.
Speaker 6 (11:16):
If you need to vent, maybe you had a great week.
Speaker 1 (11:20):
And Trav, you want to call? Let me tell you
something else. Huh, Trav?
Speaker 8 (11:22):
Y'all there?
Speaker 1 (11:22):
Menopause is real. Don't ever think menopause is not real
when you get to a certain age. That's why you
see some men of a certain age just walk around
with a towel. You know what I'm saying? I did
not drink nothing.
Speaker 2 (11:32):
Also, just some advice. Take the book out of there
and it'll be better.
Speaker 1 (11:36):
The book ain't in here, crazy human.
Speaker 2 (11:38):
That's better for you to fan with.
Speaker 1 (11:39):
That'd be too heavy. You need a fan. There's a
million and one fans in here. This guy drank last night.
Look at him.
Speaker 2 (11:46):
Honestly, I didn't see.
Speaker 4 (11:47):
I only gave him water.
Speaker 1 (11:48):
Look at him. I didn't drink nothing last night, boy.
Look at him.
Speaker 5 (11:52):
800-585-1051.
Speaker 1 (11:52):
It's The Breakfast Club. Good morning. Ray, Ray, Ray. Yo, Charlamagne. Desi,
what up?
Speaker 2 (11:58):
Are we live?
Speaker 1 (11:59):
This is your time to get it off your chest.
Speaker 4 (12:01):
I got an indoor pool, an outdoor pool.
Speaker 1 (12:03):
We want to hear from you on The Breakfast Club.
Speaker 8 (12:05):
We can get on the phone right now.
Speaker 1 (12:06):
He'll tell you what it is. Are we live? Hello,
who's this? Damien from Connecticut. Damien from Connecticut. What up, Damien?
Get it off your chest. Yo, Envy, how we feeling?
Speaker 5 (12:15):
Johnny says, won last night.
Speaker 1 (12:17):
I feel great. How you feel, Damien? Yo, I feel great.
Speaker 6 (12:20):
You know, it's always good to beat them boys week one.
Speaker 1 (12:22):
Yo, shut the hell up. It didn't even happen. You
making up stuff. We look good yesterday, too, man.
Speaker 6 (12:27):
I told everybody. We going to be pretty good. Our
O-line just need to be a little better, but we
look pretty good last night.
Speaker 1 (12:32):
Did Odell look good?
Speaker 3 (12:33):
Nah, thanks.
Speaker 1 (12:34):
Odell ain't really looking good. Odell was burned. Odell ain't? Oh, okay.
I thought you were going to say he looked good
because you always thought he was cute. No, he didn't
get too much burn last night.
Speaker 8 (12:42):
Bye.
Speaker 1 (12:42):
That's all you got for us, David? Bye.
Speaker 5 (12:44):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (12:45):
Bye.
Speaker 8 (12:46):
I love you, man.
Speaker 1 (12:47):
Yeah, love you too.
Speaker 5 (12:48):
Bye.
Speaker 1 (12:48):
He a little hurt. He a little hurt. He a
little hurt.
Speaker 3 (12:51):
I'm not hurt.
Speaker 1 (12:52):
I didn't even know the game happened last night. Yes,
you did.
Speaker 3 (12:53):
Hello.
Speaker 9 (12:54):
Who's this?
Speaker 5 (12:55):
Hi. Good morning. Good morning. Is Jess here?
Speaker 2 (12:59):
No, Jess is up.
Speaker 1 (13:00):
No, she took off. She had, I think, like six,
seven shows this weekend in Baltimore, so I'm sure she's up.
That ain't no excuse to take off, but she took off.
It's not, but she did take off.
Speaker 3 (13:08):
Okay.
Speaker 5 (13:08):
Hi, DJ and V. Hi, Charlamagne. I watch y'all every morning.
Speaker 1 (13:12):
Good morning.
Speaker 3 (13:13):
Peace. How are you?
Speaker 5 (13:14):
I'm doing okay. I want to get something off my chest.
Speaker 1 (13:17):
Go ahead, mama.
Speaker 5 (13:19):
So I lost one of my pups probably about two
months ago.
Speaker 11 (13:24):
Oh.
Speaker 5 (13:25):
And my daughter was the one that witnessed it. I
didn't even see it, and she's only six. And, you know,
the last couple of months, She was just saying, like, Mom,
you know, I want another dog. And I was like, okay, well,
I started searching. And, you know, I did, like, Facebook
Marketplace and everything the same way I got my other dog.
And I purchased so many things, and I've never had
(13:47):
an issue. Well, I found a dog, and it was
so cute, and I showed it to her. And we
drove about an hour, and I paid a deposit. And
when we got there, they blocked me. And it wasn't
even about the money. It was more so... My daughter
just crying and crying and saying, why do people lie?
Speaker 1 (14:08):
Why did they block you? Yeah, what happened? Why did
they block you?
Speaker 5 (14:11):
They didn't want to pay. I think it was just
a scam. They didn't really have the dog. They just
really took my deposit.
Speaker 1 (14:19):
Oh, man. You said the dog was coming from where?
Speaker 5 (14:21):
Well, I live in Louisiana, and so they were meeting
me closer to Laplace. So I drove me and my
daughter about an hour to meet them. And it was
so hard just watching her just so upset that she
was like, why would people do this?
Speaker 2 (14:40):
What kind of dog was it?
Speaker 1 (14:42):
What kind of dog?
Speaker 5 (14:43):
It was a small little brown teacup poodle. It was
the cutest thing.
Speaker 1 (14:48):
It was a teacup with the small ones?
Speaker 9 (14:49):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (14:50):
And it's just, you know, people are just so mean.
And I told her, I said, look, we're going to
find you one. We're going to find somebody that's honest.
And I said, next time, You know, we're going to get.
Speaker 1 (15:03):
You a dog. Why don't you go to the local
shelter and rescue one of those dogs? Yeah, go adopt
a dog. I didn't know people buy dogs off Facebook Marketplace. But,
you know, think about going to the shelter and getting
one of those dogs that, like, actually need a home and,
you know, are close. I don't want to say close
to death, but, you know. Yeah, go adopt a dog.
Speaker 5 (15:20):
No.
Speaker 8 (15:22):
I wanted to be, you know, a little.
Speaker 5 (15:23):
Cute, small, like what I did have. I had a
small Pomeranian. I think she just liked dogs.
Speaker 1 (15:28):
Oh, the small dogs.
Speaker 5 (15:29):
Tiny, and then, you know, she could be having a
bed with her and things like that. She just has
this visualization.
Speaker 2 (15:35):
Of what she wants.
Speaker 1 (15:36):
Can I ask you a question? I know this might
be a little too dramatic, but how did she witness
the dog passing? Like, what happened?
Speaker 5 (15:41):
Well, we still went by the acre of land, but
whenever she was leaving with my grandmother, the dog ran
out the house behind them and ran.
Speaker 1 (15:50):
Into the street. Damn!
Speaker 5 (15:52):
So, it was, like, right in front of her. So,
when I heard her screaming, that's when I came out.
Speaker 1 (15:58):
And Man, I witnessed something like that when I was young, man.
My cousin, I don't even want to say his name,
but he had a little dog and that dog got
loose and ran off into the highway while we was
at the bus stop waiting on the bus and got
hit by a car. And the way he screamed and
ran into the middle of the highway and dropped to
his knees was so sad.
Speaker 5 (16:19):
You just never forget it.
Speaker 1 (16:21):
Yes, it was.
Speaker 5 (16:22):
I didn't see it, but what I am grateful for that,
you know, when Hazel did pass. It only broke her neck,
but it wasn't like splattered blood.
Speaker 3 (16:32):
You know, I was crazy.
Speaker 1 (16:34):
Now, come on now. That was crazy. Why would you
say it like that now? That's what you mean only
broke its neck. That was horrible. I'm so sorry for you.
Could you stop? Thank you so much for calling in. Listen,
I hope that y'all find a dog, though. I didn't
know you buy dogs off Facebook marketplace.
Speaker 2 (16:48):
If y'all know anybody, or if anybody knows.
Speaker 8 (16:51):
Someone in the Louisiana area, Areas that sell small dolls.
Speaker 5 (16:55):
I would just like them to reach out via email
or something. Can I get my email?
Speaker 1 (17:01):
Sure, go ahead.
Speaker 5 (17:02):
It's Elisa, E-L-I-S-A, Marsalis. M-A-R-S-A-L-I-S at yahoo.com.
Speaker 1 (17:11):
Alyssa, I don't want you to think I'm laughing at you.
I don't want nobody that's watching to think I'm laughing.
Speaker 5 (17:15):
No, no.
Speaker 1 (17:15):
Because our boy, Brad, is so stupid. He talking about, no,
she can't go to the shelter because the shelter only
got pit bulls. Like, the pit bulls are just so downtrodden. No,
I ain't no liar. They got all types of dogs
in the shelter. Like, the pit bulls are so wild.
Speaker 8 (17:30):
It might let you traumatize her.
Speaker 5 (17:32):
Like, if you see a dog, like, near death.
Speaker 1 (17:35):
I didn't mean to say near death. I don't know
what I'm trying to say. I'm just trying to say
the shelter is a good place to go get dogs.
A lot of these dogs need a home. Just think
of these dogs as little tiny orphans. Little four-legged orphans
that need a home. Imagine if Annie was a puppy.
Speaker 12 (17:51):
Right.
Speaker 6 (17:51):
But that's why your mom, I tell you sometimes, don't ask, right?
Because if you ask, you might not really want to
know what happened to the dog. You don't have to
ask that. She said the dog passed away. That's all
you needed to know. No, I didn't want to know
because I did witness the dog. I witnessed the dog
get hit by a car before, man.
Speaker 1 (18:05):
I'm telling you, my cousin, and it's just the way he,
it was his reaction, not the fact that the dog
fell out.
Speaker 2 (18:10):
I discovered my dog dead.
Speaker 1 (18:11):
He looked to the sky and screamed, his blood curdling screams,
and he ran out in the highway and dropped to
his knees. And we were like, you're going to get
hit next if you don't get up the road.
Speaker 2 (18:21):
Oh, he was on his knees.
Speaker 1 (18:23):
On his knees in the highway. In the highway. Highway 17,
eight months going to South Carolina. I'll never forget that
as long as I live. It's Monday. Get it off
your chest. 800-585-451. It's the Breakfast Club.
Speaker 3 (18:33):
Good morning.
Speaker 1 (18:36):
This is your time to get it off your chest,
whether you're mad or blessed. I hate the way that
you walk, the way that you talk. I hate the
way that you dress. Everything with me is best. Call
up now, 800-585-1051. Not just me, I'm what the coach
will feel it. Yo, it's Q from Atlanta. Q, what's up, Q? Peace, Q.
Speaker 5 (18:56):
What's up?
Speaker 3 (18:56):
Today's my birthday.
Speaker 5 (18:57):
Holy * * * *, I'm on the phone with y'all.
Speaker 1 (19:00):
Happy birthday, Q.
Speaker 2 (19:00):
Happy birthday, Q.
Speaker 1 (19:01):
How old are you, young man? Appreciate it.
Speaker 3 (19:03):
I just turned 35 today. Okay.
Speaker 1 (19:05):
Congratulations, young man. Happy birthday, brother.
Speaker 9 (19:08):
Hey, and I want to.
Speaker 3 (19:08):
Tell y'all something. Like, last year, my third grade best
friend called.
Speaker 5 (19:12):
In, and I heard him on the radio and whatnot.
Speaker 3 (19:15):
That was so dope.
Speaker 1 (19:17):
What's her name? Doe. It was Mark, but I'm Q,
and we went to school together. Hold on. You said her,
but then you said Mark. No, he said my best
friend from third grade. He didn't say he or she. Yeah.
I thought you said her, didn't Mark.
Speaker 2 (19:31):
His name was Mark.
Speaker 3 (19:32):
His name was Mark.
Speaker 1 (19:33):
Because it can change. He could have been Mark in
third grade. He might be Michelle now. Q is from Atlanta, so. Nah, nah, nah, nah.
Speaker 3 (19:40):
But yeah, appreciate y'all.
Speaker 1 (19:42):
Happy birthday, King. Appreciate it. Appreciate it. Have a good day.
Have some fun on this Monday, man. Enjoy life. Celebrate it. Hello,
who's this?
Speaker 5 (19:49):
Hey, good morning.
Speaker 3 (19:51):
Who?
Speaker 1 (19:52):
How y'all doing? What's up, bro?
Speaker 3 (19:54):
Yeah, I'm in the gym right now. I'm getting punished
for just a show last night. I'm on the show.
Speaker 1 (20:01):
That's nasty, man. You in the gym getting punished and
putting on a show.
Speaker 3 (20:05):
I got one of the pounds from last night.
Speaker 2 (20:07):
He said he went to just a show last night, right?
Speaker 5 (20:09):
Oh.
Speaker 1 (20:10):
Here and so i.
Speaker 3 (20:12):
Want to show you i want to show love to
jess man speaking was so amazing uh she had a
special way of making people so soon and known even
though she talked to a thousand people and for some
reason she remembered me she said what's funny um you
know you see the work that she puts behind the
scenes from how she shows up on the stage you
can tell she put in those thousand hours of work
(20:33):
to do what she does And she does so much
by my heart. I want to say tears because of
how much work she puts in. Even when she has
a family, children. And also got to see both her
husband and her baby father at the book sign.
Speaker 1 (20:49):
It's pretty cool. That's what's up. That's all we can do.
Speaker 3 (20:52):
We're looking forward to seeing more.
Speaker 1 (20:53):
I'll write it up. Thank you, brother. Hello, who's this?
Good morning.
Speaker 8 (20:57):
This is Dee Dee.
Speaker 1 (20:58):
Hey, Dee Dee. Good morning. He's Dee Dee.
Speaker 8 (21:00):
I'm calling with some boldness behind my voice this morning.
Good morning, Breakfast Club.
Speaker 2 (21:04):
Good morning, ma'am.
Speaker 1 (21:05):
How you feeling?
Speaker 2 (21:05):
Good morning.
Speaker 5 (21:06):
I'm doing fabulous.
Speaker 8 (21:07):
I'm calling from Chicago, and I just want to share
my favorite Bible verse with y'all. It's Mark 11, 24,
and it says, Therefore I say unto you, whatever you
ask for in prayer, believe you have received it, and
it shall be yours.
Speaker 1 (21:18):
And it shall be yours. Yes, ma'am.
Speaker 8 (21:21):
Listen, I also would like to boldly ask if Lauren
LaRosa would be my mentor.
Speaker 5 (21:27):
Lauren still need a mentor.
Speaker 2 (21:30):
First of all, I have mentors.
Speaker 1 (21:31):
How old are you, ma'am?
Speaker 8 (21:33):
I would love to be her mentee.
Speaker 1 (21:35):
Her mentee. How old are you?
Speaker 2 (21:36):
Oh, my goodness.
Speaker 8 (21:37):
You're never escalating for age.
Speaker 2 (21:39):
I'm in my mid-30s.
Speaker 3 (21:40):
Okay.
Speaker 1 (21:40):
I don't think that matters. I don't think age matters
when it comes to mentorship.
Speaker 2 (21:44):
What are you looking for in mentorship?
Speaker 8 (21:45):
It's her wisdom, and it's her connection. And, you know,
I'm really trying to get into boys' work. And, you know,
it doesn't have to be a longstanding mentorship. I know
she's busy, but I would just really love to get,
you know, Pour into her and let her know that
she's amazing, and I know that she would be an
amazing mentor as well.
Speaker 1 (22:03):
How much did she pay you to call in and
say this this morning?
Speaker 2 (22:05):
Thank you.
Speaker 8 (22:06):
Not one dime.
Speaker 5 (22:07):
Not one dime.
Speaker 2 (22:08):
We can take your email. I've never done voice work,
but I mean, I guess, is radio voice work?
Speaker 8 (22:13):
Absolutely, it's media and all that.
Speaker 1 (22:16):
It's media, yeah. Is that what you want to do?
You want to be in media?
Speaker 2 (22:19):
She wants to do voice work.
Speaker 8 (22:20):
I absolutely do, yeah. I mean, if you need some
voiceover work for a black privilege publishing, listen. I'm here.
Speaker 1 (22:29):
We always need people to read audio books. That's very interesting.
Speaker 8 (22:33):
Listen, if I could offer a critique, listen, the commercials,
I am an avid Apple podcast listener, and the commercials
that y'all have there, that guy with the sinus situation, listen,
I would love to replace him.
Speaker 1 (22:47):
The sinus situation. What guy with the sinus situation?
Speaker 9 (22:51):
Oh, no.
Speaker 1 (22:51):
You have a guy that does ads.
Speaker 5 (22:53):
On what?
Speaker 1 (22:55):
iHeart or Black Effect?
Speaker 8 (22:57):
Apple Podcast.
Speaker 1 (22:58):
Apple Podcast? I got to go listen.
Speaker 3 (22:59):
Hold on.
Speaker 1 (23:00):
We're going to put you on hold.
Speaker 6 (23:01):
Somebody called me the other day and told me about,
I guess, the wildfires that they say are still going on.
I guess that they've been playing the same commercials and
they're saying that the weather's never right.
Speaker 1 (23:12):
Well, that's a production issue.
Speaker 2 (23:13):
Yeah, because somebody tweeted me one day and was like,
it is not, whatever degrees I said it was, it
was like, it is not that degrees. Can they update it?
Speaker 1 (23:21):
I was like, yeah. Listen, that's the producers and the programmers.
Nobody cares about micromanaging radio stations anymore. They just don't
give a damn. Well, get it off your chest.
Speaker 3 (23:29):
800-585-1051.
Speaker 1 (23:29):
D's on line two, by the way, guys. D's what?
Dee Dee, that's the lady that just called that you
just spoke to. Oh, see, you could hit me with
a good Dee's nuts in your mouth joke just now
because I wasn't even thinking about it. You sure he
wasn't drinking that? I did not drink nothing that was
on water, boy.
Speaker 2 (23:44):
He's naturally thinking about those in his mouth. That was
on water?
Speaker 1 (23:48):
Yeah, that was on water. No, nothing. See, it's hard
for me to sleep on Sunday nights anyway for whatever
reason it's been hard for me to sleep on Sunday
nights for years. So I didn't have a problem being
out last night. You know what I'm saying? What time
we left last night?
Speaker 2 (23:59):
Like 12?
Speaker 1 (23:59):
12 something, yeah. I got home like 1 something. Yeah,
because it was like 145 when I was laying in
the bed. Well, the latest with Lauren's up next. What
are we talking about?
Speaker 4 (24:07):
Yeah, we're going to get into our night last night.
Speaker 2 (24:08):
And we got a big announcement that Envy's going to
help me do.
Speaker 1 (24:12):
I'm not going to help you. Big announcement.
Speaker 4 (24:14):
We'll talk about it in the latest.
Speaker 1 (24:15):
Is this really how you want to reveal your pregnancy? Wow.
Speaker 4 (24:17):
Stop playing with me.
Speaker 1 (24:18):
Wow, congrats. No, I had a bunch. Who's the father?
Speaker 4 (24:20):
I drank last night. First of all, don't ever.
Speaker 1 (24:23):
Damn, that was crazy. Yes. Don't play crazy.
Speaker 2 (24:26):
Yes, you would.
Speaker 1 (24:27):
Yes, you would. Yes, you would.
Speaker 4 (24:29):
In real life, you would.
Speaker 1 (24:30):
Yes, 100% would.
Speaker 4 (24:32):
No, I'm not pregnant. We have another announcement. It involves
the Knicks.
Speaker 2 (24:35):
We'll talk about it.
Speaker 1 (24:36):
We'll get to it next. Y'all are pissing me off.
That was wild. I don't know why he would do
that to you. What, what, what, what, what you want
to know? The latest with Lauren LaRosa. Because you particularly
are bringing the energy to mainstream radio, the black radio.
That source is trusted. Did you hear that exclusive?
Speaker 2 (24:49):
Lauren, I'm the homegirl that knows a little bit about
everything and everything.
Speaker 1 (24:54):
She be having the latest on things.
Speaker 9 (24:55):
You ask the questions that need to be answered.
Speaker 1 (24:57):
On The Breakfast Club.
Speaker 4 (24:58):
If little brown girls look at you and go, I
want to be like you.
Speaker 1 (25:01):
LL Cool B, talk to me.
Speaker 4 (25:04):
So last night, well, first of all, good morning again.
Speaker 1 (25:06):
Good morning.
Speaker 5 (25:07):
Yes.
Speaker 1 (25:07):
Good morning, LL Cool Bay, Lauren LaRosa. Oh, Lord.
Speaker 2 (25:10):
So last night, if y'all wondering why Charlamagne is sitting
in here with these glasses on, if you can't hear him,
you will hear Unc still whatever he was on a
high from last night because you didn't drink.
Speaker 1 (25:20):
It's just dopamine. It's all dopamine. No alcohol, no drugs,
no edibles. This is just all dopamine. That's all.
Speaker 4 (25:25):
So we were out last night.
Speaker 2 (25:27):
We went to Jay-Z's Jay-Z in 8 documentary premiere here,
world premiere here in New York City. Now this went
down it first of all it was just beautiful from
start to finish like it went down at the Metropolitan
Opera House here in New York and you walk in
Not even inside as soon as you walked in the
outside like area, right? It was set up and there
(25:49):
was like a live orchestra playing all of Jay-z's music.
It was everybody in suits like it was Yes, they
had a lot you see you was once we.
Speaker 4 (25:57):
Got in there, you know Charlamagne He say hi to everybody.
You can't go nowhere with Charlamagne.
Speaker 2 (26:00):
Mm-hmm Once you got to the red carpet part, yes,
you walked in, there was a orchestra in the middle
that was set up.
Speaker 4 (26:04):
We also came in toward the end of it.
Speaker 2 (26:05):
It was kind of breaking down and we were heading
inside at the same time too. But yeah, so black suits,
everybody dressed to the nine, bars set up everywhere. Like
people walking around with the Ace of Spades from the
beginning of the event, Envy.
Speaker 1 (26:18):
Right.
Speaker 4 (26:18):
So we finally are on our on our way in.
Speaker 1 (26:21):
How about the bathroom line be so long at Roc
Nation events, by the way?
Speaker 4 (26:24):
I did have to wait in the bathroom line twice.
Speaker 1 (26:26):
Really? Yes. I mean, yes.
Speaker 4 (26:28):
Well, I didn't do that bad last night.
Speaker 6 (26:30):
I didn't do that bad for you is bad for anybody. OK, well,
I was monitoring her as well.
Speaker 2 (26:36):
He was on my way in. I'm walking in and
I turned to I didn't even get the fully turn.
Speaker 4 (26:43):
Jay-Z is right there. He's like, I don't know if
we've ever met.
Speaker 1 (26:46):
I'm Jay.
Speaker 4 (26:47):
I was like, I want to say, yeah, you are.
Speaker 1 (26:49):
That's exactly what she did too.
Speaker 5 (26:52):
Thank God.
Speaker 2 (26:53):
Angela Rye was standing next to me and she was like,
she made a joke of it. She was like, yeah,
she didn't know. She had no idea.
Speaker 4 (26:58):
Cause I was like, I can't believe he just, cause
I was going to go.
Speaker 1 (27:00):
Hey, I'm Lauren. And he goes, Hey, I'm Jay.
Speaker 2 (27:02):
Like, yes, you are like him. And I met Beyonce
as well last night too. At the after event that
we went to some of the nicest people ever.
Speaker 1 (27:10):
Ever, ever.
Speaker 2 (27:10):
But yeah, it was it was a great event. So
we got inside of the theater and we sat down
and watched the I don't even know if it was
like a full episode, but it was it was a
good enough portion of some of the documentary that Jay-Z
has coming on September 18th with Rick Rubin.
Speaker 1 (27:26):
So what's the documentary about? That's the only thing I'm
unclear about. Was that a full episode and we watched
one episode?
Speaker 4 (27:32):
Or was it pieced together?
Speaker 1 (27:33):
Or was it pieced together? I don't know.
Speaker 2 (27:34):
I can't answer that question right now. And I should
have asked last night, but I think I was just
so in the moment. But I'll be able to answer
it shortly. So the documentary is about Jay-Z's music and career.
You know, he's celebrating 30 years, Reasonable Doubt. But this
documentary is eight total episodes. The first two are going
to drop on September 18th in New York. they use
his songs to break down his journey. Not even just
(27:56):
like as an artist, but like from when he was
nine years old up until coming into, you know, like
a man and a father and a husband.
Speaker 4 (28:03):
And they literally really break down the music.
Speaker 2 (28:04):
Like you're watching the words on screen and, Him reacting
to it in real time.
Speaker 4 (28:09):
Some of the songs he hadn't heard since he put out. So, like,
you see the raw emotion.
Speaker 1 (28:13):
Wow. Well, 444, he said he hardly ever listens to.
By the way, that was just even uncomfortable to watch
in the room.
Speaker 2 (28:18):
Beyonce and Jay-Z sitting right behind.
Speaker 4 (28:20):
You as it's happening.
Speaker 1 (28:21):
You know, Envy, that's the song where he apologized. Don't
say you know. Don't throw that on me. I don't
want to know. We know. Don't act like we don't.
I'm not going back there. Neither am I. I'm just
saying we know how that feels to be in there. So,
I'm just thinking, like, I could never watch this in
front of people. This is something I might do. Like,
you know, you'll write about it in a book, but
then people will read about it on their own. But
(28:42):
to watch that in front of people.
Speaker 2 (28:44):
The song Charlamagne is talking about, guys, is the song
where Jay-Z is talking about, you know, when Blue Ivy
and their children grow up and he has to explain,
you know, some of the different things that have went
down in their relationship and how that's going to impact
him and their family as a man and just those conversations.
Speaker 4 (28:59):
But yeah, it was.
Speaker 2 (29:01):
Great night.
Speaker 4 (29:02):
Thanks for the invite, Char.
Speaker 1 (29:03):
Listen, I will never, ever downplay the inspiration that Jay-Z
has provided in my life. I will never downplay the
inspiration that Jay-Z has provided a whole generation. Okay? And
this generation calls it glazing. I call it celebrating excellence.
And we should all hope that we do something or
have some type of career that can be celebrated in
30 years. Because we're celebrating 30 years of Reasonable Doubt,
(29:25):
25 years of The Blueprint. those things deserve to be celebrated.
Speaker 3 (29:30):
Yes. Yep.
Speaker 2 (29:31):
And I have some audio or some video of Jay-Z
on the Brown Girl Grinding Instagram. Make sure you guys
go check that out. He actually welcomed us when we
sat down in the theater. But before we get out,
of here, I do want to make an announcement. Speaking
of New York, the Knicks City Kids Dancers, now these
are the official youth dance team for the New York Knicks.
Speaker 4 (29:48):
They perform with the team.
Speaker 2 (29:50):
Envy's daughters, two of Envy's daughters, yes, both of his
daughters made the team. Now, this is really, really competitive
to do. Over a thousand kids tried out. They picked
about 26 kids. Envy, I know your daughter's been dancing for,
both of them have been dancing for about two years.
Speaker 6 (30:05):
Yeah, a very short amount of time, two and about
two and a half years. And out of all those
kids that tried out, both of them made the team.
Speaker 10 (30:11):
Yes.
Speaker 6 (30:11):
So that's why I said we were celebrating all week long.
You dropped a bomb for them one time.
Speaker 1 (30:15):
Congratulations. Which is... Amazing.
Speaker 6 (30:17):
So they will be at the home games dancing. So
I will probably be at every Knicks game now. If
I have to buy a ticket or not, I will
be there watching my babies dance. So I am super
duper excited. I am so proud of them.
Speaker 1 (30:30):
Big year.
Speaker 4 (30:31):
Big year for them to be a part of that team.
Speaker 1 (30:34):
You know what it is? It's the work. It's the effort.
Speaker 6 (30:36):
It's the fact that they practice when nobody tells them to.
It's the fact that they push themselves to be better.
It's the fact that they're always online watching other dancers dance.
And the fact that dad is there and got a
chance to see that this week it was their first rehearsal.
Speaker 1 (30:51):
So I got to see them dance with the other kids.
It's just dope, man. Is that translating to dollars now?
Speaker 12 (30:55):
Yes.
Speaker 1 (30:55):
It's a big gig. It's a big gig. So they
get paid for rehearsals.
Speaker 6 (31:01):
They get paid for actually dancing on when they dance
in the garden.
Speaker 1 (31:05):
They get money for it. So this is their first job.
Speaker 8 (31:07):
Right.
Speaker 1 (31:07):
So they're super duper excited.
Speaker 2 (31:09):
This is a crazy first job.
Speaker 1 (31:11):
Yes.
Speaker 2 (31:11):
I didn't even think about.
Speaker 4 (31:12):
It like that.
Speaker 1 (31:12):
Yes. My daughter was a cheer. I'm a cheer dad.
Ain't no money in check. All we do is spin, spin, spin.
How old is she? One is 10, one is 13. Wow.
And they're already making money off dance.
Speaker 2 (31:24):
Congratulations, Envy.
Speaker 4 (31:25):
You gear in the family. That is a major accomplishment.
Speaker 6 (31:28):
I know they're listening this morning, probably on their way
to school. I love you guys.
Speaker 1 (31:31):
Congratulations.
Speaker 6 (31:32):
I'm so proud, man. It brought tears to my face
just watching them. Because they just started.
Speaker 1 (31:36):
Two years ago.
Speaker 2 (31:37):
You always cry every time they dance. Every time I've
seen them dance and I've watched.
Speaker 4 (31:40):
Them, you cry.
Speaker 1 (31:41):
Your father, man. Proud father.
Speaker 7 (31:43):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (31:43):
But it was a beautiful celebration of the things over
the weekend, I'm sure.
Speaker 1 (31:46):
It was a lot. It was great.
Speaker 3 (31:48):
Yes.
Speaker 6 (31:48):
Again, congratulations and salute to the New York Knicks and
the New York Knicks City kids and the dancers.
Speaker 1 (31:53):
We appreciate you guys and I'm happy.
Speaker 3 (31:55):
All right.
Speaker 6 (31:56):
Now, when we come back, we got front page news.
Mimi will be joining us and then Dr. Jess will
be joining us.
Speaker 1 (32:02):
You know Dr.
Speaker 8 (32:03):
Jess.
Speaker 1 (32:03):
She's been up here many times. Ask Jess. We're going
to talk to him in a little bit. It's The
Breakfast Club.
Speaker 14 (32:07):
Good morning.
Speaker 1 (32:07):
Good morning, everybody.
Speaker 6 (32:08):
It's DJ Envy, Jess Hilarious, Charlamagne Tha Guy.
Speaker 1 (32:11):
We are The Breakfast Club.
Speaker 6 (32:12):
Let's get in some front page news. Now let's start
off with some quick sports. Last night, the Lions beat
the Saints. The Ravens beat the Colts. Jets beat the Titans.
Steelers beat the Falcons. The Vikings beat the Packers. Cardinals
beat the Chargers. Eagles beat the Commanders. Raiders beat the Dolphins.
Bears beat the Panthers. Bills beat the Texans. The Jaguars
beat the Browns. The Bengals beat the Buccaneers.
Speaker 1 (32:32):
And the Giants... The New York Giants beat the Cowboys 28-20.
You're putting a lot on this for no reason. But
you mean you're going to the Super Bowl. Yes, we're
going to the Super Bowl. No, you're not. We're 0-1.
You're 1-0.
Speaker 6 (32:47):
Yes, we're undefeated right now. The Giants are undefeated. Nobody
beat us. We are undefeated.
Speaker 2 (32:53):
Y'all just got here.
Speaker 1 (32:54):
So what? You're putting too much sauce on this for
no reason. No, I'm not.
Speaker 6 (32:58):
And tonight, the Broncos take on Kansas City Chiefs on ESPN.
Speaker 1 (33:03):
Hello, Mimi.
Speaker 9 (33:05):
Hilarious envy. Undefeated. All right, y'all.
Speaker 10 (33:08):
Front Page News is sponsored by Morgan & Morgan, America's
largest law firm. So let's get into this Tasia Fortune story.
Speaker 9 (33:17):
Have you guys heard about this arrest?
Speaker 5 (33:19):
No, I haven't.
Speaker 10 (33:21):
Yeah, so there was an arrest made in the death
of Tasia Fortune. She was a 29-year-old black woman who
was found hanging from the tree in Mississippi. We talked
about this. Probably a couple of weeks ago, her body
was found on August 3rd. For weeks, there were questions
about exactly what happened, how she died. And now Mississippi
State Medical Examiner, they have officially ruled her death a homicide.
(33:44):
Police have arrested a suspect and charged him with murder.
Jackson Police, they announced the arrest. Let's listen to that
press conference.
Speaker 7 (33:52):
We secured two search warrants and an arrest warrant for
Jacques Ratliff, also known as Jacques.
Speaker 3 (33:58):
Mr.
Speaker 4 (33:59):
Ratliff was not at the location when officers arrived.
Speaker 7 (34:02):
However, as our staff and team were returning to JPD headquarters,
they encountered Mr.
Speaker 2 (34:07):
Ratliff walking along Capitol Street.
Speaker 7 (34:10):
Officers took him into custody without any incident. That arrest
today is an important development in this investigation, but it
is not the conclusion. This case remains active. An additional
arrest will be pending as our investigators continue to follow
the evidence wherever it leads.
Speaker 1 (34:28):
That's horrible, man. And it's sad that we keep hearing
so much about these lynchings that are happening. It's like
you don't even know the names because you just hear
every day. Every other day, it's like, oh, another person
got found. Another person got found. I forgot all about it.
I don't think I heard about the Tasia Fortune case.
If I did, I don't remember the name. When did
this happen?
Speaker 9 (34:49):
This happened on August 3rd.
Speaker 10 (34:50):
We talked about it here, but at the time, she
was found behind an abandoned building and people were just
trying to figure out what happened. There was also some
speculation of of who could have caused it. And so
now the police are saying that it was Jacques Radcliffe.
But a lot of people online, they're not buying this
as the full story because they're questioning whether this one
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man who looks older was able to do such a thing.
Because I don't know if you guys remember when we
spoke about it, we said that she was so high up,
they had to have a fire truck ladder bring her down.
And so they're questioning, you know, How one person was
able to do that. Now, the police chief just said
in that soundbite, though, that they are looking for other suspects.
There will be more arrests coming forth. So we'll just
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follow this to see what what will continue to happen.
But they have not explained how they believe her body
was placed in that tree. And so a lot of
people online are speculating, you know, he couldn't have done
that alone.
Speaker 9 (35:48):
Scary. We will continue to follow that.
Speaker 10 (35:51):
And now to a new twist in the Lindsay Clancy
case and the growing backlash over the lone holdout juror
and how he is being treated. So remember the jury
was 11 to 1. 11 jurors were prepared to find
Clancy not criminally responsible for killing her three children. One
juror disagreed, forcing a mistrial. But now we're learning something
that we didn't know about that holdout juror, that he
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was a black man in his 30s, the only black
juror on the panel. Now, that came out during an
interview with CBS this morning. And Gayle King, she was
the one who actually broke this news.
Speaker 9 (36:26):
Let's listen to the reaction that she had.
Speaker 15 (36:27):
One person of color was a person of color, a
woman or a man?
Speaker 1 (36:31):
A man. A man.
Speaker 2 (36:32):
Is a holdout juror a person of color?
Speaker 1 (36:35):
A black man?
Speaker 5 (36:36):
Yes.
Speaker 13 (36:37):
A black man is a holdout juror?
Speaker 5 (36:39):
Yes.
Speaker 1 (36:40):
Well, I have to sit with that for.
Speaker 13 (36:42):
Just a second.
Speaker 1 (36:43):
Lord knows I love me some Gayle King, but I
just need her to explain that reaction. I don't understand
why she reacted like that. What did him being a
black man and holding out have to do with anything?
I'm shocked that it wasn't more jurors who didn't feel
like how he felt.
Speaker 10 (36:59):
Yeah, well, when you look at the look at the
makeup of the jury, I think her first question was
what the jury makeup look like. And to find out
that he was there was only one person of color
and it was a black man who was the holdout.
Speaker 9 (37:11):
I think she was kind of just sitting in that
for a second.
Speaker 10 (37:14):
But I think the bigger story this morning is NBC
in Boston.
Speaker 9 (37:18):
They started digging.
Speaker 10 (37:19):
Into the jurors personal life, reporting his past domestic violence allegations,
bringing order an eviction case that he had.
Speaker 9 (37:26):
The station, they did not release his name. We still
don't know his name. His name is not public.
Speaker 10 (37:30):
But critics are pointing out that jurors are supposed to
have a privacy and a protection when they serve.
Speaker 1 (37:35):
Absolutely.
Speaker 3 (37:36):
Yeah.
Speaker 10 (37:37):
So them digging into his personal life and all that
being investigated, they're wondering whether the 11 other jurors would
be facing this kind of scrutiny if it was the
other way. So now that we find out that he's
a black man, are we doing a little bit extra
digging because he was the lone holdout who didn't go
the other way, which the 11 other jurors went?
Speaker 1 (37:57):
And he can't sue because they didn't put his name
out there, right? A lot of conversation about that. They
didn't put his identity out there, so he can't sue.
Speaker 3 (38:04):
No.
Speaker 9 (38:05):
They didn't put his identity out there, but they put
all his business out there.
Speaker 3 (38:07):
That's crazy.
Speaker 10 (38:08):
I mean, from arrest warrants to interviewing family members, everything.
Speaker 6 (38:13):
Oh, interviewing family members. Then, yeah, then they clearly know
who he is then, which is sad.
Speaker 9 (38:17):
Yeah, they know who he is.
Speaker 10 (38:19):
They just haven't said the name out loud.
Speaker 1 (38:21):
They vilifying him more than they vilifying Lindsey Clancy. That's right.
Speaker 9 (38:25):
That is.
Speaker 10 (38:26):
exactly what they're saying um all right y'all well it
looks like that is the end of front page news
we are running out of time but injured know your
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Speaker 1 (38:40):
We got the law firm battles going down versus top
dog law that's right okay who will come out the
victor we will see thank you but listen I want
to keep this conversation going. That's why we have Dr.
Jessica Clemons coming in.
Speaker 3 (38:57):
Dr.
Speaker 1 (38:57):
Jessica Clemons is a board-certified psychiatrist, and this is what
she does. The conversation is about postpartum psychosis and your
mental health surrounding pregnancy. she is the person to talk
to so we're going to keep this conversation going when
she comes back great conversation we'll do when we come
back so don't move it's the breakfast club good morning
morning everybody it's dj envy just hilarious charlamagne the guy
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we are the breakfast club laura rose is here as
well we got a special guest in.
Speaker 6 (39:22):
The building yes indeed she's back ladies and gentlemen dr
jess welcome.
Speaker 1 (39:25):
Back feels good to be here very important to say
dr jessica clemons is a board certified psychiatrist okay all
right graduated cornell university medical college completed your residency training
at nyu yes at nyu okay very important to say
that why Just want people to know that she really
got her certification. That's just been up here before. I know,
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but you know. Okay. Reiterate to the people.
Speaker 3 (39:51):
All right.
Speaker 1 (39:51):
Well, how are you feeling? She's a real doctor.
Speaker 15 (39:53):
I'm feeling great. I'm glad you did that for me
because I was going to try to find a way
to bring that in.
Speaker 1 (39:58):
Oh my God.
Speaker 2 (39:59):
Do y'all have to do that now? On platform?
Speaker 1 (40:02):
I really.
Speaker 15 (40:03):
Before the controversy online, when people were talking about whether,
you know, someone is a doctor or not.
Speaker 8 (40:09):
Yeah.
Speaker 15 (40:10):
I wouldn't think it's a thing, but now I do
think it's important. People really need to know that the
information they're getting from so-called doctors, you know, it's trusted.
Speaker 3 (40:20):
It's vetted.
Speaker 15 (40:20):
So yeah, I feel like it's something that we do
have to say.
Speaker 3 (40:23):
Absolutely.
Speaker 15 (40:24):
And the last thing is medical doctors. It's, it's easy
to look up whether or not we're truly who we
say we are. All you have to do is just
take her name. and the state we're licensed, and you
can see if the license is active or not. It
doesn't take much to show your degrees and things like that.
They're always on the wall behind me.
Speaker 3 (40:41):
Okay. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (40:42):
And I'm glad you're here because you're also a reproductive psychiatrist.
So you treat women with postpartum, and we've been having
a lot of conversations about postpartum, especially because of the
Lindsay Clancy situation. And I think it's very important because
we spend nine months talking about women being pregnant, but
never talk about what happens to the mother psychologically after pregnancy.
Speaker 15 (41:01):
Absolutely. Yeah, this is a newer area in psychiatry. Mass
General is really leading in a lot of the research. Yeah,
we don't talk about the hormonal effects, whether it's pregnancy,
delivery or even before. Like I take care of a
lot of women who talk about, wow, every couple of
weeks out of the month before my period starts, I'm
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just anxious or depressed. But we talk about that and
we talk about treatment options that might include therapy or
lifestyle modification. but also medication. But when I'm thinking about
like postpartum, especially to your point with the case that
we've all kind of watched, I kept a little distance
from some of the details there. But yeah, we're talking
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people are coming in depressed. It affects their ability to
bond with the baby, which then also has effects on
the infant child, right? If they're not properly bonding with
their parent, the mother, that has some downstream effects. But
there could absolutely be a role for medication for some women.
It also could be a role for more support, making
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sure that you have someone there to cover the night shift.
I know personally, that was just one of the hardest
times after having a baby to be up all night
and just thinking about what that does to mood and irritability.
So it's an area of medicine that's starting to really
take the front center now.
Speaker 6 (42:22):
Well, let me just break down the Lindsay Clancy case
for somebody that doesn't know. She's a 36-year-old former labor
and delivery nurse. She strangled her three children ages five,
three and eight months before attempting suicide by jumping out
of a second story window. She was not prosecuted on
September 24th, 2026. It was a mistrial. The judge declared
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a mistrial after seven days of deliberation. And this has
been a big conversation of postpartum and all that. I
wanted to ask when I seen your name on the
sheet early this week, well, last night.
Speaker 1 (42:55):
I called Charlamagne. I'm like, is that Dr.
Speaker 3 (42:56):
Jess?
Speaker 5 (42:56):
Dr.
Speaker 3 (42:57):
Jess?
Speaker 1 (42:57):
Because usually we don't see Dr. Jessica Clemens, right? We
just see Dr. Jess is coming. And he was like, yeah.
I was like, well, where has she been?
Speaker 6 (43:02):
We haven't seen her in a long time. And she
was like, well, she dealt with postpartum. And I was like, wow.
I was like, well, break down what it is.
Speaker 1 (43:11):
I've had six kids. You know, I have six kids.
And thank God my wife didn't deal with it.
Speaker 11 (43:15):
So.
Speaker 6 (43:16):
What makes somebody deal with having a child, like Charlamagne said,
so excited, nine months, you're excited to have this baby,
a baby that you created and you build a nursery
and you build a crib and the family's giving you
gifts and you can't wait and you're picking outfits that
look like your outfits and you get so excited. And
then you hear a lot of women say when the
baby came. They didn't like the baby.
Speaker 1 (43:36):
They didn't want him. They didn't want the child next
to them. Some women would say hate the baby. How
do you get to that? That's what Mimi said this morning.
Our front page news person said she hated her son
at first. Oh, wow.
Speaker 5 (43:46):
Wow.
Speaker 1 (43:47):
So how do you get there?
Speaker 3 (43:48):
Yeah.
Speaker 15 (43:49):
So for me, just to make sure people are okay
with part of what I've been focusing on, I mean,
answer the question, is really building my private practice and
trying to shift away from social media as a primary focus. public,
you know, space that I engage in, but how we
get there. So during pregnancy, there's like big shifts in hormones,
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you know, estrogen is high and that's why the hair
is like herring and the skin is all full. Um,
and just, you know, just really people just look great
when estrogen levels are high, but after delivery that starts
to tail off pretty rapidly. And so for some people
who are more sensitive, that's the language we kind of
use in medicine, meaning One woman may tolerate that estrogen
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drop off and another woman may not. The one who's
more sensitive, the one who doesn't, may begin to have
signs of like postpartum blues. In fact, 50 to 85%
of women will experience that. That's not like depression where
you're down, you really don't want to get out of bed,
you're feeling hopeless, maybe even suicidal. It's more of like irritability.
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There might be some anxiety. You might be just a
little like frustrated, unable to connect. maybe some feelings towards
the baby, not at all like postpartum psychosis, which I'll
go into, but that usually gets better once mom is,
you know, properly, she's got the nutrition back, she feels supported,
she's focusing on rest. A lot of what I advise
women who come in after delivering is like, you got
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to sleep.
Speaker 2 (45:18):
Even if you have to.
Speaker 15 (45:18):
Stop pumping or prioritizing trying to breastfeed, like let's move
on if it's not working for you. But again, part
of what happens is the change in estrogen levels affects
some women significantly. And then the work. I mean, it's
hard taking care of a newborn, especially when it's the first.
You have no idea. You're like, to your point, you're
getting ready. You're creating the moment. You're getting the room ready.
Then the baby arrives, and now this baby has to
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be fed 24-7. The only communication is through tears. I mean,
it's stressful. And then if a lot of women do
feel pressure to breastfeed, to pump, that is around the clock, too.
You can't just stop because you need to sleep. If
you don't, you'll stop producing milk. So I think for
some women, if they end up not being properly supported,
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that first couple of days when postpartum blues can show up,
that can sort of start to set the stage for
postpartum depression, anxiety. I support a lot of women who
talk about how overwhelmed they feel. You know, they're worrying
about this. Do I have enough for that? So it
starts to play into how they feel about themselves and
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how they feel about their performance. And then even the children,
there can be resentment that builds.
Speaker 1 (46:27):
Like what separates like the normal baby blues from the
postpartum depression and the psychosis and the OCD? Like, like,
like help us understand the spectrum.
Speaker 9 (46:36):
Yes.
Speaker 15 (46:36):
Great question. So we, we look at this as like
a continuum.
Speaker 1 (46:39):
Okay.
Speaker 15 (46:39):
Some women, um, before they became pregnant, uh, may have
had a history of depression and anxiety already, but postpartum, uh,
this continuum of blues, depression, and psychosis can happen in any,
any woman, um, Again, part of it is this like
hormonal shift that some people are more sensitive to. But
blue shows up about two to four days into post
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delivery and it levels off and you're not depressed to
the point where your mood is consistently down. You're sad. Literally,
you can say, I feel depressed. You're not dealing with
a lot of sleep issues. You're not sleeping great. You're
caring for a baby. You can fall asleep. If somebody
takes that baby, you're out.
Speaker 11 (47:18):
Right.
Speaker 15 (47:19):
You can fall asleep. Postpartum depression would have the opposite.
You're having trouble falling asleep. Your appetite's low, stuck to
your mattress. You're having a lot of thoughts of guilt.
You're not enjoying things. You're hopeless. And some women will
develop suicidal thoughts. That occurs maybe in the first couple
of weeks. Two to four weeks is when we look
for that. But this isn't the one that we're worried
about the safety of the baby. Postpartum psychosis is rare.
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It happens in about one to two deliveries out of
a thousand births.
Speaker 1 (47:46):
So it's rare.
Speaker 15 (47:47):
Most women are not going to experience postpartum psychosis. But
this is the one that was, I guess, kind of
at the forefront of this case, which, you know, I
don't really know if that's what it was. Eight months
is not really the window. Postpartum psychosis we're seeing in
the first couple of weeks, but really at four weeks,
we're not really expecting that to be there if it occurred.
And it is a emergency, right? So the person will
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look disorganized. They might have mood fluctuations. So they're really elevated.
They might be up all night, you know, talking and very,
just have all this energy, or they might look depressed.
They might be disorganized and like, what are you doing?
You're putting the remote in the, you know, fridge. It just,
something seems odd. But what, one of the hallmarks that's
scary is if they start to communicate that they're hearing
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things or they start to believe that something's going on
with you, with the baby, they don't really want anyone
with them. This can, can put the infant and family
at risk of infant side or, you know, So it's
an emergency in New York. There are so many resources.
There's a mother and baby unit, I think, at Mount Sinai.
So it's not unusual if someone does present with this
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for them to get admitted. You'd have to be admitted,
treated with the antipsychotics, but they'll keep the baby in
the hospital with you. But you're not the primary when
caretaking because the risk is that if they're alone, maybe
these command auditory hallucinations might, you know, tip them into
acting on it. But again, very rare. It's an emergency.
Depression is probably a bit more common. Blues is incredibly common,
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but that resolves.
Speaker 6 (49:19):
With what are your thoughts on paternity leave, right? Because
when I first heard about paternity leave, I laughed so loud.
I was like, what the hell does a man need
to take off, right? But now hearing what you're saying,
I guess it would be needed. For support.
Speaker 15 (49:34):
Absolutely. I don't want to leave the men out.
Speaker 1 (49:37):
I didn't take paternity leave.
Speaker 8 (49:40):
No.
Speaker 2 (49:41):
But I think things have developed since y'all have had
your children. But like when you said you don't want
to leave the men out, you mean that in their
mental space as well? Or just the fact that... So
talk a bit about that because I don't ever hear
people talk about the men, like their side of it
as well too.
Speaker 3 (49:54):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (49:55):
So.
Speaker 15 (49:57):
The first point, yes, support is really why I think
men should absolutely advocate for it. You don't want your partner,
your spouse, whatever the situation is, at home alone with
all of the burden of care. But I think we
also don't really talk about the changes that happen to men.
This isn't like a hormonal conversation, but more or less
just the big role that people are stepping into, right?
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So if it was just the two of you, that's
a very different lifestyle, very different dynamic situation. Now you
might have someone who's like, actually, I really do need
you to take the baby when you come home. I
don't need you to do your process to decompress. So
that can also take a toll on people. Stress is
one of the most notorious experience that people don't recognize,
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but contributes to things like anxiety. which also can have
irritability in there. You know, anxiety isn't just this like cute, oh,
I'm so worried, but people can be really edgy, snappy, right?
It also can bring up feelings of depression, whether it's
like depressive episode or just the low mood that comes with,
maybe you're not connecting with your, you know, your partner anymore.
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Maybe it's demanding on you too. You worked all day,
you want to come home and decompress, but now you
have this baby that you have to take care of.
Speaker 1 (51:07):
Come to the door, your wife's like this, but you understand.
Speaker 15 (51:10):
But it still affects you, right? So, Paternity leave is important.
I wish in the U.S. it was longer. I think, what,
it's like six weeks maybe. Not long enough. That's still
like a newborn. That baby is so tiny and developing.
So I think if a man is on the fence
about it, you just need to take it. Take the time.
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Bond with the family. Be supportive. Figure out the new role, right,
so that it's not really just one person taking the
lead on all the caretaking. Because that does affect the relationship.
And not pressuring also for sex. That's just something I
want to throw in there.
Speaker 1 (51:45):
I'll just say that again. Expound on that.
Speaker 2 (51:47):
Yeah, go ahead.
Speaker 6 (51:48):
That seems like that's been a... Since you said it
like that, it seems like that's been a problem and
an issue with a lot of couples.
Speaker 2 (51:51):
Because you're supposed to do six weeks after, right?
Speaker 15 (51:53):
People need a weight, right? Yeah, so the body can heal.
But also just realizing that this woman, her body doesn't
really even belong to her anymore.
Speaker 5 (52:01):
Mm-hmm. Right?
Speaker 15 (52:02):
You've heard about being touched out when moms are talking
about like, okay, the kids are all on me. I
don't want anybody else to touch me.
Speaker 2 (52:09):
Oh, like when mom needs to take like an hour,
maybe an hour in the car before she walking out
the driveway or she hiding in the closet because she
just needs, she tired.
Speaker 1 (52:16):
Don't touch me.
Speaker 2 (52:17):
I know of that, but I didn't know it was
called touched out.
Speaker 9 (52:19):
Touched out.
Speaker 15 (52:19):
Like, you know, if you're nursing and you got a
toddler with you and everybody's just grabbing for mom.
Speaker 10 (52:25):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (52:25):
Right.
Speaker 15 (52:25):
At some point it's just like, get off me.
Speaker 2 (52:29):
Right.
Speaker 5 (52:29):
Right.
Speaker 15 (52:29):
So I was kind of being a little tongue-in-cheek here
where I was saying men also need to give their
women time to not make sex something that you start
to also put the pressure on because she's adjusting to
her body and the hormones. And if she's lactating, you know,
let her get her time to heal, but also for
you two to figure out the dynamic now that kids
are involved.
Speaker 2 (52:47):
We're talking about things a lot more now. You can
plan the nurses, the nannies, the sleep, all that, but
then you still get to some of the postpartum things.
Is that something that like, can be passed down like
your mom deals with this so then you dealt with
it so you've done everything to try to fight it
but like it still happens anyway is that a thing
as well.
Speaker 15 (53:05):
It can be yeah the unfortunate part is we don't
know what causes this experience in women it could be
genetic it definitely we feel pretty confident that it's the
hormonal shift that some people are more sensitive to but
i also think a lot about what what's modeled right
so what am i saying here um If you saw
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generation after generation, women take on more than their share
and now they're irritable after birth and more tearful. Is
this something that's really postpartum blues? Yes, we would diagnose
it as such. But is it that you saw women?
Overdo it, not accept support, not expect the men in
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their lives to step in and take care of the
things that they just are doing.
Speaker 1 (53:54):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (53:55):
OK.
Speaker 2 (53:55):
Yeah.
Speaker 15 (53:56):
So I often think like when we're talking genetics, how
much of it is really the family system like passing
on certain behaviors? But for now, we don't know. I
want people to know what to look out for.
Speaker 1 (54:09):
Can somebody experience postpartum psychosis and still have moments where
they look completely rational? Like they could be cooking dinner,
they're answering texts, taking care of the baby. That's what
they were saying in the Clancy case. They said that
she was functioning.
Speaker 2 (54:22):
That's how the movies make it seem like that too.
When they have these characters that have like kind of
like the Lindsay Clancy case.
Speaker 15 (54:29):
This is complicated. I'm privileged that I got to actually
see people who are ill. A lot of mental health
providers or psychiatric nurse practitioners, for example. There were people
who trained in psychiatry outside of great institutions like NYU. NYU,
by the way, is the VA hospital on First Avenue.
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Bellevue Hospital.
Speaker 1 (54:51):
Oh, wow.
Speaker 15 (54:52):
Okay, so we're seeing everything.
Speaker 1 (54:55):
Wow.
Speaker 15 (54:56):
Okay, and that's where I got to see some of this.
And then the hospital next.
Speaker 3 (54:59):
Door, Tish. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (55:00):
They'll use the psychiatric hospital. Yes. Yes.
Speaker 15 (55:03):
Notorious, right? If you don't really witness people who are
truly in that state, what we would call like psychosis,
you can pick up on things because you're making the
diagnosis based on what's the DSM, which is like our
psychiatric handbook, which is a collection of symptoms that if
they meet these, this collection or meet criteria, then we
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call it that. So I've even found when I'm you know,
working with someone who might be a therapist or a
nurse practitioner, that we don't see the symptoms the same way.
I don't like to, you know, fluff myself here, but
I'm also like, I really got to see it. Like
Bellevue has Rikers, like Island, there's a unit in that hospital.
So we're seeing people who are truly, truly ill.
Speaker 3 (55:46):
So no.
Speaker 15 (55:47):
Like people who have postpartum psychosis, from what I've witnessed,
they're bizarre. They are muttering to themselves. Part of when
someone is psychotic, if they have that experience, they're not
really taking good care of themselves. That's a disorganization. So
hygiene might be down. They may be even like styling
themselves kind of oddly.
Speaker 1 (56:08):
Why don't they take the baby away during those times?
Speaker 15 (56:10):
You do.
Speaker 2 (56:11):
You should.
Speaker 1 (56:12):
Not family members. I'm talking about.
Speaker 3 (56:14):
Yes.
Speaker 1 (56:15):
Doctors. Like, the baby needs to go until.
Speaker 2 (56:17):
She's... Well, the doctor has to know what's happening, too, though.
Speaker 15 (56:20):
Doctor has to know it. Also, the states. You know,
the state that you are in, their mental health hygiene
laws really set the stage for whether or not they
can involuntarily admit you. Like I said, New York is
is pretty strong on. I mean, we were admitting people
coming in with schizophrenia because they weren't taking care of themselves.
And that helps the community. But also we get them
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treated and then we move them down and sort of
the level of care to ideally not continue to live
on the streets with like severe mental illness. But if
you're in like Texas, you know, I don't know their laws.
It might be a little bit harder for the psychiatrist
to actually have the authority to involuntarily admit you. They
may not have enough units. So this is also a
bit of like an advocacy issue, too.
Speaker 5 (57:02):
Right.
Speaker 15 (57:02):
In New York, I mean, you're getting admitted without a doubt.
You're getting admitted. That baby is going to have to
be with family until we treat you because it's a risk.
You could you could kill that. You could kill your
baby in other states again. I don't know what they
have going on, but you'll find that it's state dependent.
Speaker 3 (57:22):
Gotcha.
Speaker 1 (57:23):
Yeah, it's interesting, right? Because even with that case and
everything you're saying, like they said she did ask for help.
Like they said she asked for help. She had a
lot of contact with mental health providers before, you know,
she did what she did to her kids. Did she
do it? Yeah, she did it, right? Yes, she did.
Speaker 15 (57:40):
I think she did it.
Speaker 1 (57:41):
What does that case teach us about the difference between
having access to care and actually receiving the right care?
Speaker 15 (57:47):
Great question. So this goes to quality, right? The quality
of care. So even when I'm like running my private practice,
that's a part of the language I communicate is that
I'm not just your doctor treating you. You're getting quality care,
which goes back to the training. Like, again, I picked
NYU because I knew I would see everything and that
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would make me more confident in my diagnostic skills and
then knowing how to treat. So this is also the
sort of unfortunate, ugly side of mental health treatment in
this country, which I think is evolving. I'm glad we're
talking about it. I'm glad you've been spearheading, making this
something that our community really focuses on. But it's just
going to depend on what you get, right? You might
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sit across from someone who, where they train, they never
saw someone come in with schizophrenia. So they're really relying
on the handbook, right? They may have never seen a
woman come in with postpartum psychosis. When you see it,
you know it. They may have never seen someone come
in with bipolar disorder. So it's harder to call it.
They also might not feel comfortable to take away your
rights or to say, like, we're going to hospitalize you.
(58:50):
So the difference, unfortunately, is where people train, their comfort
level in the medication. You know, if you've got a
lot of medication going on, that's usually not ideal. From
my perspective, that's kind of a red flag. Like, what
are we targeting?
Speaker 1 (59:04):
Right.
Speaker 15 (59:05):
Patients shouldn't be on multiple medications. They should have closer
follow up. So there's not really a standardized way of
treatment because also in the U.S. I don't want to
sound like I'm bashing nurse practitioners. I know they're going
to be my comments later, but the training is just
so limited.
Speaker 5 (59:23):
Right.
Speaker 15 (59:24):
And I've worked with people. I'm like, why would you
prescribe that for this? And it just it just tells
me that they don't have enough experience and you get
to you get to kind of do your thing.
Speaker 1 (59:34):
My last question, what do you wish the Lindsay Clancy
story had taught America before it became this courtroom story?
Speaker 15 (59:43):
Well, again, I think keeping it really simple, I would
have hoped that it would have started more conversations around
properly supporting families. mothers, fathers, thinking about the role for community.
I think, again, it just should be more of the
discussion nationally about how we're going to properly make sure
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people have what they need. Doctors, I do need you
to make sure people are on the right medication and
push for them to get admitted. I push mine. Like, okay,
if you aren't getting better, let me tell you the hospital.
I'm going to send you to.
Speaker 1 (01:00:21):
Thank you, Dr.
Speaker 3 (01:00:21):
Jess.
Speaker 5 (01:00:22):
Dr.
Speaker 1 (01:00:22):
Jessica Clemens, man. I would tell him to follow you,
but you know.
Speaker 10 (01:00:26):
You can.
Speaker 15 (01:00:26):
I'm there.
Speaker 3 (01:00:27):
All right.
Speaker 1 (01:00:28):
I want to get back in it.
Speaker 3 (01:00:29):
Okay.
Speaker 1 (01:00:29):
Is it still Ask Dr.
Speaker 3 (01:00:31):
Jess?
Speaker 15 (01:00:31):
It's still Ask Dr.
Speaker 5 (01:00:32):
Jess.
Speaker 1 (01:00:32):
Well, we appreciate you for joining us.
Speaker 15 (01:00:34):
Thank you so much.
Speaker 1 (01:00:35):
And hopefully you'll join us more. You vanished for our life. Like,
you jumped in. Did you vanish?
Speaker 2 (01:00:41):
You intentionally took the time away.
Speaker 15 (01:00:44):
No, she vanished.
Speaker 1 (01:00:45):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (01:00:46):
But you said from us, like, it was just breakfast club.
Speaker 1 (01:00:47):
I've been trying to get her at the Mental Wealth
Expo for years. I'm like, yo, now I'm thinking, like,
this would be a great year for her just to
do the whole panel by herself.
Speaker 9 (01:00:55):
I'm down.
Speaker 3 (01:00:56):
Word?
Speaker 12 (01:00:56):
Yes.
Speaker 10 (01:00:57):
I'm down.
Speaker 15 (01:00:57):
I'm back out here. She said, I'm back out here.
My children are a bit older. They can tolerate being
away from mom.
Speaker 5 (01:01:04):
Mm-hmm.
Speaker 15 (01:01:05):
I got to shout them out. I know y'all are watching.
Y'all better be on your best behavior. But I want
to because I see this is needed.
Speaker 1 (01:01:12):
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 8 (01:01:12):
You know?
Speaker 15 (01:01:13):
And I have a lot of fun. You guys have
just been really good to me. I appreciate being here.
Speaker 1 (01:01:17):
Well, Dr. Jess, ladies and gentlemen, it's the Breakfast Club.
Good morning. Let's get to the latest with Laura. Talk
to me.
Speaker 2 (01:01:46):
All right, so we've been talking about legends this morning.
And speaking of legends, it is being reported or it
was announced that Judge Judy, a legend in her own right.
Speaker 1 (01:01:55):
Speaking of things, them pictures be real? No. I ain't
never seen it in person.
Speaker 4 (01:02:00):
AI is really the trip.
Speaker 1 (01:02:02):
That's before you. I seen it way before you.
Speaker 4 (01:02:04):
Because I'm like, her right now, when you see her.
Speaker 2 (01:02:07):
No, she's not thick.
Speaker 3 (01:02:08):
She's like.
Speaker 6 (01:02:08):
They had Judge Judy with a BBL online. Like, Judge
Judy had like.
Speaker 1 (01:02:11):
Nah, that wasn't no BBL. That's all natural right there. No,
I think it was fake. Let me look. Let me
look again. She what, like 75 or something like that?
What do you mean? Nothing. I'm just saying.
Speaker 2 (01:02:22):
Well, yeah, she's retiring after 30 years. She's passing the
gavel on down to her son. And yeah, she's going
to be, she says that she, you know, she still
wants her energy to be put out there, but she
wants to do other things.
Speaker 1 (01:02:34):
I wouldn't even want to do that if I was
her son. Because Judge Judy, I mean, I don't know
his personality. Has he been doing anything? Has he been
on these judge shows?
Speaker 6 (01:02:42):
There's nothing like Judge Judy. I remember Judge Judy used
to have Gia's mom or mother-in-law in a choco.
Speaker 1 (01:02:47):
Like, that was her show.
Speaker 8 (01:02:48):
They all do.
Speaker 1 (01:02:49):
Like, her show.
Speaker 6 (01:02:49):
Like, she would sit there for hours and we would
watch Judge Judy.
Speaker 1 (01:02:52):
Like, he has his choco.
Speaker 2 (01:02:54):
So he has his own show. It's called Adam's Law.
Speaker 1 (01:02:56):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (01:02:57):
He's been an attorney for more than 25 years. So
he's also been on he's been on a few shows.
But yeah, he has a new series, Adam's Law. It
premieres on it premieres today.
Speaker 4 (01:03:09):
Yep, it's coming out through CBS.
Speaker 6 (01:03:10):
I would figure out how I could use that name,
like Judge Judy's son or something like that, because I
don't know.
Speaker 1 (01:03:15):
Son of Judy?
Speaker 4 (01:03:16):
Son of Judy sounds like a soap opera.
Speaker 1 (01:03:19):
Yeah, I never heard of Adams, though.
Speaker 2 (01:03:20):
Well, anyway, but yeah, she's taking a step back. I mean,
we've been watching her forever, so, you know.
Speaker 1 (01:03:25):
God bless her. She deserves it.
Speaker 3 (01:03:26):
Yes.
Speaker 2 (01:03:27):
Now, speaking of legends, I want to go back. I
know we were talking about Jay-Z this morning, and I am...
really still excited about last night but um because you
met jay-z and beyonce you're never gonna fail not only
did i meet them at the after party y'all you
know i love to do electric slide yeah yeah as
soon as i heard the song i got up and
ran up and i didn't expect jay-z and beyonce homecoming
homecoming beyonce jay-z and beyonce was doing electric slide they
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danced all night long and i mean like had a
good time that's what couples in love do no but
like big celebrities be in there and be like cute
for the party they like had a good time.
Speaker 1 (01:03:59):
You realize they're humans Yes, but y'all know what I'm
talking about. Two black-ass humans.
Speaker 2 (01:04:02):
Y'all know what I'm talking about. You hang out with
some people or be around them, even if at a distance,
and they there, but they ain't really having a good time.
Speaker 4 (01:04:09):
They were having a good time.
Speaker 1 (01:04:09):
Couples in love are going to dance. They're going to
enjoy themselves. Oh, they were.
Speaker 4 (01:04:12):
Okay, all of that.
Speaker 1 (01:04:13):
All of that.
Speaker 2 (01:04:13):
Now, I want to play this audio that we have
exclusively from Bronco Grinding from last night. Jay-Z opened up
the premiere when we were at the Opera House.
Speaker 1 (01:04:22):
I thought you was in there working. I thought you
was in there taking it. I was about to fight you.
Speaker 8 (01:04:25):
I thought I was.
Speaker 1 (01:04:26):
About to fight you.
Speaker 2 (01:04:27):
I took my phone out one second to not to
record just to check what was happening in the world
and Charlamagne was like get off your phone be in
the moment I put it away that's right yeah let's
take a listen to Jay Z as he opened up
his premiere last.
Speaker 1 (01:04:37):
Night about this piece that Rick and I created it's
been an extraordinary year it's Jay Z 30 I want
to thank all you guys to come to the concert
and travel all around the world we didn't create this
piece to come out at this time we were just
curious to have this conversation around music and Writing. We
didn't know what we would do with it. It was
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just an idea that we discussed, Rick and I. I
think what makes it really special is that, you know,
the love that we have of music. Rick was super
curious about the world that a lot of us come from.
So I took it in places that I don't think
it normally would have went. It's super fascinating.
Speaker 3 (01:05:16):
I mean, if I.
Speaker 1 (01:05:17):
Do say so myself.
Speaker 5 (01:05:18):
I hope you guys enjoy it. Thank you guys for
this beautiful 30-year journey.
Speaker 11 (01:05:25):
Looking forward to what's next.
Speaker 5 (01:05:28):
Thank you.
Speaker 2 (01:05:30):
And to answer the question, we watched two episodes last night.
We watched episode one and three. So again, on September 18th,
two episodes will drop and then they'll drop on Fridays
after that. But also I want to shout out Angie
Martinez too.
Speaker 1 (01:05:42):
When we first talked about this.
Speaker 2 (01:05:44):
Documentary, we mentioned that it would be fire to see
her involved in some way. Last night, she was the
voice of God in a theater, which was like fire
to hear in New York.
Speaker 4 (01:05:51):
Let's take a listen to Angie.
Speaker 5 (01:05:53):
Yeah.
Speaker 8 (01:05:55):
It is the voice of God again.
Speaker 2 (01:05:57):
Andrew Martinez.
Speaker 9 (01:05:57):
Ladies and gentlemen, welcome to the Met Opera.
Speaker 10 (01:06:00):
It is our distinct honor to welcome to the stage
the incomparable Mr.
Speaker 1 (01:06:04):
Sean J.Z. Carter.
Speaker 4 (01:06:09):
Yeah, she was seated like right behind us and then
right behind her were J.Z.
Speaker 2 (01:06:12):
Beyonce.
Speaker 4 (01:06:14):
On the way in, I saw DJ Khaled. He is skinny.
Speaker 1 (01:06:16):
Salute to Khaled. Khaled really has lost a lot of weight.
He lost a lot of weight. I told him that
last night. I said, man, I ain't going to front.
I thought this was just for the gram.
Speaker 2 (01:06:22):
If I was him, I wouldn't have spoke to you.
You be so mean.
Speaker 1 (01:06:26):
I'm not mean, man. Jokes are not mean, okay? Just saying. Yes,
they are. They are the way people receive them.
Speaker 4 (01:06:31):
When I saw Khaled, he was so nice.
Speaker 1 (01:06:33):
He was so nice to me. Khaled is always nice.
Khaled is always nice. Always positive. He's always been a
nice guy.
Speaker 4 (01:06:37):
I felt so bad.
Speaker 7 (01:06:38):
I'm like, dang.
Speaker 1 (01:06:38):
But he really has lost a lot of weight. He has.
Fat Joe walked up to him.
Speaker 4 (01:06:41):
I was walking to the seat. Fat Joe walked up
and was like, what's up?
Speaker 2 (01:06:44):
Skinny.
Speaker 4 (01:06:45):
I'm like, oh, they greet each other like that now
because we lost the weight.
Speaker 1 (01:06:48):
You look good.
Speaker 2 (01:06:49):
Shout out to SZA too. Saw SZA in the after party.
Did y'all know that SZA went to Del State?
Speaker 1 (01:06:54):
I didn't know that I found that out last night
if I.
Speaker 2 (01:06:56):
Had told y'all that here y'all would have told me
I was lying but SZA was right there when I
said it and she was able.
Speaker 1 (01:07:00):
To confirm it you know what I ain't gonna say
nothing Lauren's.
Speaker 2 (01:07:04):
Crazy I didn't mean to but you do nothing shout
out to Gunna too I saw him last night as
well but good morning to SZA good morning Gunna.
Speaker 1 (01:07:13):
You especially say good morning to SZA say good morning
to SZA Good morning. Good morning, SZA. That's right. I'm
going to close bars for SZA.
Speaker 2 (01:07:20):
I'll follow Hornet.
Speaker 1 (01:07:22):
All right. Hey, SZA.
Speaker 2 (01:07:23):
I mean, look.
Speaker 1 (01:07:24):
I love you, SZA.
Speaker 2 (01:07:25):
I was going to say, you can't take me nowhere.
But last night, I proved that you can. We had
a good time.
Speaker 1 (01:07:28):
But I will say this.
Speaker 6 (01:07:29):
I think it's very, very, very dope seeing Jay-Z and
where he came from. Like, I started in the industry
and I got a chance to see Jay start and him,
you know, struggling to get records played and people not believe.
And then Seeing the world believe. And I used to,
you know, sit up in Rockefeller Records and just pretty
much just wait for albums.
Speaker 1 (01:07:46):
Sit in Lenny S.
Speaker 6 (01:07:47):
And G's office and see Hov and just see all
the work that he actually put in. And to see
it 30 years later and to see people still receiving
it and still loving it and still idolizing it.
Speaker 1 (01:07:56):
But he's such a humble. It's really, really dope. Like,
they are such nice, good people. And even them together.
After all of that.
Speaker 6 (01:08:02):
Like, Hov and Beyonce would be outside. Like, you would
see them out in a club, and they were always
so humble. Even though they are multi-platinum artists and billionaires,
they still speak.
Speaker 2 (01:08:14):
The biggest thing, last night, all I was thinking about
was how people say, your character will take you places
that sometimes even your talent is.
Speaker 1 (01:08:22):
No, no, no, no. Your talent will take you where
your character can't sustain you. So when you meet individuals
like that, you see why they've been on top of
their game for so long.
Speaker 2 (01:08:30):
Literally. And why the blessings just flow. Like when I
say just great, nice humans, like. And just having a
really good time. Like, enjoying life.
Speaker 1 (01:08:39):
They'll say we're glazing, but it's the truth.
Speaker 2 (01:08:40):
I don't care.
Speaker 1 (01:08:41):
Celebrate excellence, man.
Speaker 6 (01:08:43):
He'll sit down and talk to you for, like, it's
not like he's not going to say, okay, I got
to go.
Speaker 1 (01:08:47):
Like, he's going to one you. No. He'll have conversations
with you. He was dope.
Speaker 6 (01:08:50):
And it's crazy because you're like, bro, you got to
do this for all these people, but he has no
problem doing it.
Speaker 1 (01:08:54):
Yeah. Now, Beyonce, they'll still follow me and be like,
all right, enough's enough.
Speaker 2 (01:08:57):
No, but she, like when I was walking in, she
walks up to you.
Speaker 3 (01:09:01):
Yes.
Speaker 4 (01:09:01):
And she'll like, she makes you feel welcome.
Speaker 1 (01:09:04):
Says her name like you don't know her name?
Speaker 2 (01:09:05):
I didn't even speak back.
Speaker 4 (01:09:06):
I just held my hand out.
Speaker 1 (01:09:07):
Stop stuttering.
Speaker 4 (01:09:09):
Oh, I text the group chat instantly. Y'all, I just
met Beyonce.
Speaker 1 (01:09:12):
I miss everybody. Yes. If you can't celebrate other people's success,
you'll never have any success of your own. And I
will never downplay the inspiration that Jay-Z has provided me
throughout my life. Okay? All right? Never. And we should
never downplay the inspiration that Jay-Z has provided the whole generation.
Speaker 3 (01:09:27):
Okay?
Speaker 1 (01:09:28):
I'm going to keep telling y'all that over and over
and over again. And once again, you should hope... to
get to a point where you have something to celebrate
after 30 years. You should pray for that. You want
to get money for three years at 30. I just
need y'all to think this logically through. All of you
people out there be like, oh, see you old. You
(01:09:48):
would rather get money for three years or 30. Do
you want something to celebrate 30.
Speaker 6 (01:09:53):
Years from now? You think about it, right? To celebrate
five is amazing. To celebrate 10 is difficult. To celebrate
15 is always impossible. We going on 16. That's almost impossible.
How many, you know, not to glaze ourselves, but how
many radio shows have gone this long?
Speaker 1 (01:10:07):
Glazing yourself is crazy. I don't even like that.
Speaker 3 (01:10:13):
Hold on.
Speaker 1 (01:10:13):
Let me get to this.
Speaker 2 (01:10:15):
You need to be nice to people too, because I'd
be apprehensive when we run into them.
Speaker 1 (01:10:20):
Let me do this.
Speaker 6 (01:10:20):
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first gift. Now, that was the latest with Lawrence Charlemagne,
who we were giving that donkey to.
Speaker 1 (01:10:39):
Man, for after the hour, salute to all my Nigerians
out there, okay? Let's talk stereotypes.
Speaker 5 (01:10:44):
Oh, boy.
Speaker 1 (01:10:45):
And scamming.
Speaker 12 (01:10:45):
Oh, boy.
Speaker 1 (01:10:45):
But I got y'all this morning, Nigeria. Don't even worry
about it, okay? But there's six Nigerian men who need
to come to the front of the congregation. We'd like
to have a word with them. We'll get to it next.
It's the Breakfast Club. Good morning. It's time for donkey
of the day. There's a bunch of donkeys out here.
Call donkey of the day. It really caught me off guard.
We live a life where we bite our tongue based
(01:11:06):
off who we may offend. We never would say anything.
You are a donkey. That is why Charlemagne is here.
Some donkey todays just saw themselves. On The Breakfast Club. Okay, Charlamagne,
who you giving donkey of the day to today? Well,
donkey of the day for Monday, September 14th goes to
six Nigerian men who were extradited from South Africa to
(01:11:28):
the United States for allegedly being involved in a romance
scam that targeted more than 100 women and stole millions
of dollars. I'm not even going to sit here and
act like I can pronounce these brothers' names, but let's
go to SABC News for the report, please.
Speaker 12 (01:11:41):
The six Nigerian nationals who are suspects in a multi-million
rand online romance scam have arrived at the Cape Town
International Airport for their extradition. the United States. They are
allegedly linked to the Nigerian cyber crimes syndicate, the Black Hawks,
and face charges of money laundering and wire fraud. The
(01:12:03):
Hawks say they initially arrested eight suspects in 2021, with
one being granted bail of R210, 000, while another was extradited
to the United States in 2024. This followed cooperation between
the Hawks, Interpol, the FBI, and the U.S.
Speaker 14 (01:12:22):
Secret Service. You must remember that the crime scene is online.
So there had to be proper investigation and proper money
trail to be traced back to individual suspects so that
we are able to make a case that is tangible
to stand before court.
Speaker 1 (01:12:40):
Jesus Christ, she didn't say their names either. So now
I got to attempt. I just say their first names. Perry, Franklin, Asarimeen.
Collins Busa, and Torres Asu. And last name Osajid. Osajid, Otaga,
and Otubu. Definitely not right, but go ahead. Anyway. They
are accused. They haven't been convicted. So we'll let the
court handle that part. But I want to discuss this
(01:13:00):
morning stereotypes, okay? Because when I saw this story, my
first thought was, my Nigerian brothers, why are y'all reinforcing
this stereotype? You know the stereotype I'm talking about, okay?
There are people on this planet who, when they heard
young Miami ass wear all the scamming ass N-words at,
the first place they thought about is Nigeria! OK, I
(01:13:21):
was born in 1978 and Nigerians have been fighting the
scammer stereotype in America for as long as I can remember. OK,
it started with those. Nigerian Prince emails. You know, remember
those you get? Hello, my dear. I have inherited $ 14
million and I need your assistance. Okay. That's what started
a lot of this. And I don't like it because
I love Nigerians.
Speaker 3 (01:13:40):
Okay.
Speaker 1 (01:13:40):
Nigeria has over 200 million people. Some of the smartest,
most educated, most successful people I've ever met are from Nigeria.
Drop on the clues box in Nigeria. Damn it. You
got doctors, you got lawyers, you got engineers, you got
business owners. You can look at what Nigerian culture is
doing around the world right now. You know, the afro
beaches everywhere you got burn a boy we just was
(01:14:01):
playing tims okay nigeria has spent years showing the world
that there's so much more to that country than the
stereotypes people have about it and then here come these
six individuals doing romance scams allegedly okay do you understand
how much that has to piss off other nigerians somewhere
this morning there is a nigerian man sending a completely
legitimate business email and somebody is looking at that email
(01:14:24):
rubbing their chin like hmm i don't know OK, some
Nigerian brother is on a dating app right now trying
to genuinely meet somebody. And the woman is nervous waiting
to be asked for money. But that's how stereotypes work. OK,
one person does something and somehow everybody who looks like
them comes from where they're from gets thrown into it.
(01:14:45):
Don't become somebody else's confirmation bias. OK, people already got
ignorant ideas about certain groups and they just waiting for
something to happen that makes them feel like they're right. OK,
they don't care about the millions of Nigerians who wake
up every morning and go to work, raise their families
and don't scam nobody. They're going to see this story
and say, see, I told you all them scamming ass Negroes.
(01:15:09):
Carisha was talking about her from Nigeria. I told you. No. Okay,
we're talking about six Nigerians, six individuals, okay? And guys,
if you know people already have an unfair stereotype about
your community, why would you go out there and allegedly...
become the stereotype that's what i don't understand and i
know some people don't like that argument because they'll say
(01:15:29):
why should i have to represent my whole race why
should nigerians have to represent all nigerians you're right you
shouldn't that's an unfair burden okay white people don't have
to do that when bernie madoff stole billions of dollars
nobody said man we got to keep an eye on
all these white people in their ponzi schemes no we
said bernie madoff was a crook okay one man we
didn't make millions of people answer for him but black
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people okay my brothers my sisters from all over the
globe you know damn well that's not how it works
for us okay people shouldn't stereotype nigerians because of what
these six men allegedly did but people will and that's
why if these allegations are true you know These brothers
got to suffer the consequences, okay? These brothers didn't just
hurt the women they allegedly scammed. They made life a
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little more annoying for some innocent Nigerian somewhere who already
has to deal with this stereotype. And I have to say,
the actual scam itself is nasty too. Because romance scammers
aren't just stealing money. They're studying people's loneliness. That's what
makes this so foul. You're finding somebody who wants companionship
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and you're figuring out exactly what they need to hear.
Good morning, beautiful. Did you eat today? I have jollof.
Then three months later, baby, I'm having a little trouble
accessing my bank account. Sir, you don't need a girlfriend. Okay,
you need a loan officer. And what really gets me
is the amount of work that allegedly goes into these scams.
If you have enough discipline to talk to somebody every day,
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enough patience to gain their trust, enough people skills to
make them fall in love with you, enough business sense
to allegedly move millions of dollars around, then you clearly
have the skill and talent to do something legitimate. You
could have been putting all of that energy into actually
doing something legitimate, but no, you want a scam. But
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back to the moral of the story. There's already an
ugly stereotype attached to Nigerians. And these six men allegedly
decided to become somebody's evidence for it. OK, you shouldn't
have to live your life trying to prove stereotypes wrong.
But you're damn sure shouldn't be working overtime to prove
them right. Please give these six alleged romance scammers from
Nigeria the biggest. I don't get it.
Speaker 2 (01:17:40):
How you say the names?
Speaker 1 (01:17:42):
I don't know. Don't do that to him. Don't do
that to him.
Speaker 4 (01:17:44):
His accent changed and everything.
Speaker 1 (01:17:46):
I don't even know why because that wasn't even a
Nigerian accent.
Speaker 4 (01:17:48):
I don't know what your accent was.
Speaker 1 (01:17:49):
I don't know what that was either. I have no idea.
Speaker 6 (01:17:51):
Well, thank you for that donkey today. Now, when we
come back, Kristen and Montel Jordan will be joining us.
They have a new children's book, Shiloh and the Not-So-Scary
Girl Above His Bed.
Speaker 5 (01:18:01):
Damn!
Speaker 1 (01:18:02):
A book about overcoming fear with faith. All right. We're
going to talk to them next. Why did you do that?
There was no reason to say damn. It's a children's book.
I just feel like saying damn all morning. This is
dopamine from last night. Damn. All right. My cowboys lost. Damn.
That was a good one. You see what I'm saying?
That was a good one. Now I feel like I
need a damn this morning. I ain't here for Trav.
Y'all check on Trav. I know Trav went to the game.
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All right, it's Breakfast Club.
Speaker 5 (01:18:26):
Good morning.
Speaker 1 (01:18:26):
Good morning, everybody.
Speaker 6 (01:18:27):
It's DJ Envy, Jess Hilarious, Charlamagne Tha God.
Speaker 1 (01:18:31):
We are The Breakfast Club. Lorna Rose is here as well.
We got some special guests in the building. Yes, indeed.
We have Montel and his wife, Christian Jordan.
Speaker 3 (01:18:38):
Welcome.
Speaker 1 (01:18:38):
What's up? Christian Jordan. I'm sorry. Christian Jordan.
Speaker 8 (01:18:41):
Sorry.
Speaker 1 (01:18:41):
Christian Jordan. She is a Christian.
Speaker 16 (01:18:43):
I am.
Speaker 1 (01:18:44):
How y'all feeling? We feel great.
Speaker 2 (01:18:46):
Man, we are so good.
Speaker 1 (01:18:47):
New children's book, Shiloh and the Scary Girl Above His Bed.
The not so scary girl above his bed. Talk to
us about this book.
Speaker 17 (01:18:56):
Yeah, this actually started with my son when he was
three years old. He was afraid of the monster that
lived under his bed. And the crazy part, I was like, Lord,
we got to fix this. Cause like he would show
up on my doorstep at my door every single night.
I was like, okay, you got to sleep in your
own bed, bud. But he was so afraid of this monster.
And I was like, okay. And so I, one night
when I was putting him to bed, I said, baby,
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what if the monster that's under the bed is more
afraid of you than you are of him? And what
if he wants to be your friend? And he was like, huh?
I said, I assure you that he's way more afraid
of you than you are of him.
Speaker 1 (01:19:30):
He was like, Okay. And he decided he was sleeping
in his bed. And I was like, okay, this is good.
We can do this. Where did that instinct come from?
Because I do that with bugs. Like when my little
girls are mad at ants, I'll be like, you're way
bigger than them ants. Them ants scare me. Right.
Speaker 17 (01:19:44):
Well, you know, the crazy thing is, I think one
of the things we do as parents that is, we
don't know what we're doing. But the concept of it is,
is that we will say, oh, that's not scary. But
the truth is, when we were kids, we were afraid
of that too. But when we lean into it and say, hey,
what if? And it's the wonder, right? And to ask
them the questions. And once they are able to think
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about it and articulate how they feel, it's like, oh,
wait a minute, you're right. I'm way bigger than that bug.
I'm way bigger than whatever it is that I'm afraid of.
Speaker 16 (01:20:13):
Yeah, it's flipping fear on its side because I think
we believe that unattended fear as a child can become trauma.
Speaker 1 (01:20:21):
Anxiety.
Speaker 3 (01:20:22):
Fear.
Speaker 1 (01:20:22):
Worry. Oppression.
Speaker 16 (01:20:24):
Yeah, and even as marriage people that help couples in marriage,
we found that A lot of their fears go all
the way back to their childhood, to things about staying
or fighting or being afraid of this.
Speaker 1 (01:20:38):
Absolutely. You know, isolation, all those different things.
Speaker 17 (01:20:40):
It's so crazy because we literally sit across from couples
all the time and we're like, so what is going on? Well,
I'm afraid to stay. I'm afraid to go. I'm afraid
I picked the wrong one. It's like, good night. And
when we thought about that, we were like, where does
that come from? And it comes to when you have
childhood fears, us as parents saying, oh, you don't have
to be afraid of that. But the truth is, unattended
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fear becomes anxiety, becomes oppression, becomes depression, becomes not knowing
what to do next. And so we got to teach
kids how to be brave.
Speaker 1 (01:21:11):
I love it because it's about perspective, right? Because it's like,
you know, it's not about removing your child's fears, but
just teaching them another way to look at them. How
do you know when you're not traumatizing your kid, right?
Speaker 6 (01:21:20):
I don't want to traumatize the kids so much where
they're super duper scared. But I don't want to coddle
them too much where everything falls back and I got
a nine-year-old sleeping in between mom and dad.
Speaker 1 (01:21:30):
You know what I mean? So I know when it's
not going too far.
Speaker 17 (01:21:33):
Well, the truth of the matter is, is that we
need to lean in. It's asking more questions and listening.
A lot of times we're so quick to tell them.
what they're supposed to think or what they're supposed to feel.
And the truth is, is when you ask them the questions,
they'll tell you what they're really afraid of.
Speaker 1 (01:21:48):
Like for us, we have five kids, five grandkids. We
got a lot of experience.
Speaker 17 (01:21:56):
So, and the crazy part of that is, is that
when we lean in and ask, why are you afraid
to go? We have my youngest daughter right now went
to high school, like three days before school, she starts.
Speaker 1 (01:22:06):
Acting a fool. I'm like, what's wrong with you? And
she was like, you know what, mom, I'm afraid to
go to school. I was like, why? I was like,
you go to a school that you love. It's an
art school.
Speaker 17 (01:22:17):
She's like, what if I don't make friends in ninth grade?
So what that does and what that tells me is
that every kid has fears.
Speaker 5 (01:22:25):
Right.
Speaker 1 (01:22:25):
And so rather than say, oh, you're going to make friends.
I said, you know what?
Speaker 17 (01:22:28):
What about that is scary to you? She goes, what
if they don't like me? I said, you already know them.
I said, and here's the truth. You're already accepted. You're
already amazing. Whoever God has for you to be your friend,
they're going to be awesome. So lean into, I don't
need a whole bunch of friends. What if I just
make one? And so as we start to talk it out,
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she realizes, like, I can relax. It's going to be
all right. But it's really just dialoguing with them.
Speaker 1 (01:22:55):
I'm somebody who deals with anxiety. And one thing I've learned,
and I want to know what y'all think about this.
Do we actively teach children that fear is weakness when
fear is actually information? That's correct. That's exactly right.
Speaker 17 (01:23:06):
And I think it's the leaning in that allows the
information to inform your brain and your heart how to react.
It's not that it's not scary. It's that if you
ask the right questions, you can proceed with the bravery
and the courage.
Speaker 1 (01:23:19):
It's so crazy. You know, we're believers.
Speaker 17 (01:23:22):
And one of the things that always shocks me is
that the scriptures is a lot of times it says,
be bold and courageous.
Speaker 1 (01:23:28):
The only reason it would say that is what you're
facing is scary. Because otherwise, there's no reason to say that, right?
Speaker 17 (01:23:36):
So when we're dealing with giants in our lives, whatever
that may look like, we have to do it afraid.
Speaker 1 (01:23:42):
But how do we do it afraid?
Speaker 17 (01:23:43):
We lean in and we do hard things. It's not
that we don't do the things that we need to do,
but it's learning how to do it the right way
and doing it afraid and saying, guess what? It's okay
to be afraid, but I know that you'll do this
and do it well.
Speaker 1 (01:23:57):
Yeah, I agree. And from that standpoint, when we.
Speaker 16 (01:24:00):
Like I said, if you can catch it early, if
you can get to the kids before fear. grabs a
stranglehold on them and.
Speaker 1 (01:24:07):
To teach them.
Speaker 16 (01:24:08):
And like you said, some fear is not unfathomable. You
need to be afraid of that. I need to put
fear in you in certain instances. When you want to
put your fingers in the socket or whatever, no, don't
do that. I need you to be afraid of what
will happen, not only if you do that, but what
I will do to you if I catch you trying
to do that. And so I think that it is
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important for us to be able to give a healthy
measure of what fear is, but also to equip.
Speaker 1 (01:24:34):
People to understand.
Speaker 16 (01:24:36):
And I say people, even our little people, we need
them to understand that fear is not something, you know,
to shy away from, but to be able to face
it and recognize what it is. Because, you know, I
think the more you run from your fear or whatever,
You know, it'll chase you your entire lifetime.
Speaker 1 (01:24:54):
Absolutely.
Speaker 15 (01:24:55):
Now, the baby boy who the story is about.
Speaker 1 (01:24:58):
Yes. How old is he now? Now he's 22.
Speaker 5 (01:25:00):
22.
Speaker 1 (01:25:01):
Yeah, he's about to turn 23. At Morehouse.
Speaker 5 (01:25:03):
Yes.
Speaker 3 (01:25:04):
Okay.
Speaker 1 (01:25:04):
Does he get his royalties in publishing? No, it's okay.
Speaker 2 (01:25:07):
I was about to ask that.
Speaker 1 (01:25:09):
Listen, he's the whole franchise. Okay. Guess what?
Speaker 17 (01:25:13):
At the end of the day, all of this is
going to be theirs, right? So we leave a legacy
and inheritance.
Speaker 1 (01:25:19):
To our children's children's children. Yeah.
Speaker 17 (01:25:21):
It's going to be good. And it's funny because we
had him at the release party and it was so funny.
The kids were like, he's so big. I said, yes, look,
and he made it and he's brave.
Speaker 1 (01:25:31):
They're like, I can do this. I was like, yes.
Is he still scared under the bed? No, not in
the bed. It's the linemen come across the line. How
would his book teach a child to distinguish between fear
that's protecting them and fear that's limiting them?
Speaker 17 (01:25:50):
Um, it, So the idea of it is, is that
when we are putting our kids to bed, right? So
this is a story really designed to talk about the
things that they were afraid of in that day. And
so what we want to do is invite the parents
to have conversations with about what the child has dealt
with during the day. And so we want them to
understand when we have fear, it's okay to be fearful,
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but what can you do about it? We can invite
faith into that and say, God made you brave. You
can do hard things. You can be bold. You can
be courageous. And really, the truth is, as much of
the negative words that we've said... If we say the
positive and we show them, because they don't come with fears.
Speaker 1 (01:26:29):
They don't.
Speaker 17 (01:26:29):
Just like we talked about our one-year-old granddaughter. She has
zero fear, zero inhibitions. She will walk right off the
side of the pool, right into the water. And so
it's one of those things is that now we're teaching
them how to have conversations, to pay attention to what's
going on inside them, and note that this doesn't have
to be this way.
Speaker 1 (01:26:49):
What's something your children taught you about God that church
never could?
Speaker 17 (01:26:52):
That a love of a child... is one of the
most innocent and beautiful things that you could ever steward.
I don't think we talk about that in church very much,
but it is one of the greatest gifts that you
get is to see this person that you created, but
you get to navigate them through. The good the bad
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the ugly whatever that is and that I get to
be a good steward over this kid But what I
pour in I get out when I was a kid
My mom used to tell me you can't plant peas
and get corn You can't put the negativity and the
the all the stuff that we get from the world
We have to start with what we put in there.
It's gonna come out eventually they go through rough patches
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they go through rough times, but the truth is I
They always come back and it always comes around.
Speaker 16 (01:27:41):
For me, let me just jump in there real quick
that I learned the most valuable lesson that I've ever
learned about ministry that church could not teach me. And
this is when we had first brought our daughter Samantha
home and she was three days old and she wasn't eating.
And at the time, we didn't know what was going on.
And then literally, baby started turning blue or whatever. And
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we didn't know what to do. And so we end
up rushing to the hospital or whatever. And when we're there,
this is a three-day-old baby who hadn't eaten. We're trying
to breastfeed and everything. And she just would not eat.
And so when we get to the hospital, they basically
tell us, hey, we're going to need to do a
spinal tap.
Speaker 1 (01:28:21):
As a father.
Speaker 16 (01:28:22):
them coming to me to say, hey, we need to
do this to your daughter for her to live. And
I'm thinking to myself, they're coming to me for the answer.
My wife is looking at me. Everybody's looking to me
to be like, what do you what do you do?
And I had to trust one. OK, well, God, you
gave her to us. And so she was yours before
she was ours. And even I don't want to make
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this decision. I have to trust that. I'm going to
put her in the hands of the people that are
saying they know more than what I know. And so
the closest I've ever tried to imagine what it is
to give up your child for somebody else, what God
did for us through Jesus, that was what I felt
like it gave me the closest understanding of what it
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is to actually be willing to sacrifice a life that
you love so much, but trusting God in that space.
And so I've never wanted to have to do that again,
but from that standpoint, just understanding I'm not God, but
if I could get a glimpse of what he felt
like to give up his child, to me, that's what
I got out of that.
Speaker 6 (01:29:26):
I always tell parents to double check and make sure
triple check. So something similar happened last year, Christmas time.
They told me my daughter would need brain surgery. Something
didn't sit right with me. And we took her out
of New Jersey and I took her to a hospital
in New York. And when the doctors seen her in
New York, He came, he looked at the charts, he
started laughing, right? So I didn't find it funny.
Speaker 1 (01:29:48):
I'm like, what the f * * * is so funny?
And I'm serious, what the f * * * is
so funny? Stop cursing in front of the church.
Speaker 3 (01:29:52):
People, man.
Speaker 6 (01:29:53):
Because I'm telling you exactly what you're telling me. So
we're sitting there, me and my wife's in, the baby's in,
the baby is wrapped up. And he was like, those
doctors told you in Jersey that she needed brain surgery.
Speaker 1 (01:30:05):
I'm like, yeah, he starts laughing. I'm like, what's so funny?
He was like, she doesn't need brain surgery. He was like,
there's nothing on this chart that tells me she needs
brain surgery. What she does need is that she needs
to clean out everything that's in her nose. Oh, sinuses.
She needs up to it, her sinuses. But she has
a sinus infection, no brain surgery.
Speaker 3 (01:30:21):
Wow.
Speaker 1 (01:30:22):
Brain surgery is crazy. That's crazy.
Speaker 6 (01:30:23):
So if we would have left her there, they probably
would have started with the brain surgery and messed her up.
And I still didn't believe the doctors. I'm like, two
doctors told me she needed this.
Speaker 1 (01:30:33):
Yeah.
Speaker 6 (01:30:33):
They did the sinus thing and within... hours, face cleared up.
It was the craziest thing. And it just made me think, like,
when it comes to that, you got to ask, you
got to double check, you got to triple check.
Speaker 1 (01:30:46):
Ask all the questions.
Speaker 6 (01:30:47):
I mean, I called Charlemagne because they told me the
best children's hospital was in South Carolina.
Speaker 1 (01:30:50):
Remember I called you? I'm like, give me that number.
Can you get this? Like, it was that. I get it.
Because you're so scared. But I know you guys have
to go.
Speaker 6 (01:30:56):
And before you go, I want to talk about September
is Prostate Cancer Awareness Month. I want to talk about
that before you go and why it's so important and
why people should get checked and how they should get checked.
Speaker 1 (01:31:06):
You beat it twice.
Speaker 6 (01:31:07):
So break it down to the brothers out there listening.
Speaker 3 (01:31:10):
All right.
Speaker 16 (01:31:10):
Two-time cancer survivor. Last time I was here last year
was Prostate Cancer Awareness Month and I was headed into
a treatment. I had my prostate removed. November of 2024.
And then cancer came back in 2025. And so at
that time, I then went from not having a prostate
to now having proton therapy, which was 37 rounds of
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this radiation treatment or whatever. And I can say several
different things. One, I am my PSA, which is prostate
specific antigen level. which is characterized by a blood test now.
You don't have to do the finger checks. My PSA
is sub 0.01, which is undetectable, meaning I'm cancer free.
So thank God for that. One in every eight men
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will be diagnosed with prostate cancer in their lifetime. One
in every six will be African-American and less likely to
survive it because of late diagnosis.
Speaker 17 (01:32:02):
They usually don't get diagnosed until stage four. And so
then now you have less choices.
Speaker 1 (01:32:07):
How often do you get checked for prostate?
Speaker 16 (01:32:09):
Is it yearly when you do? No, I don't get
checked for prostate anymore. Cause I don't have a prostate.
Speaker 1 (01:32:13):
How often should somebody get checked?
Speaker 3 (01:32:14):
Yeah.
Speaker 16 (01:32:15):
Well right now, well, how often should somebody get checked
is normally once a year when your physicals, once you
reach a certain age for African American, then you want
to start going probably a little earlier. They say, as
early as 35 to 40.
Speaker 1 (01:32:29):
It's in blood. It's just in your blood now.
Speaker 16 (01:32:30):
You just have to ask for the test. But you
have to ask for the test because when you go
just for a regular physical, they're not going to check
your PSA.
Speaker 1 (01:32:37):
That's correct. They're not. It's crazy.
Speaker 6 (01:32:38):
That's crazy because a lot of people assume, though, that
when you go to the doctor and they give blood,
they'll be like, everything's clear.
Speaker 1 (01:32:43):
You automatically think that they checked everything. No, you have
to ask. You have to ask for it. You have
to ask. And it's super important because.
Speaker 17 (01:32:50):
The thing is, the insurance companies, it costs like $ 75, right,
for them to do. So that's why they don't want
everybody doing it, right? But the truth is, is it
pales in comparison.
Speaker 16 (01:33:01):
They're trying to pass legislation now and do some different
things to get it mandatory. Like when a woman, they
want you to have mammograms or X, Y, and Z.
They're starting to want men to have PSA, but they
haven't passed that legislation yet. Hopefully, we're somewhere at the
forefront of that. But ultimately, the goal is now I go...
every four months to go back and just have blood
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checked or whatever. And then at some point when I'm clear,
it'll be six months and then a year. And then
I think after like 10 years or whatever, then you
don't have to do that anymore.
Speaker 1 (01:33:30):
Y'all have to leave? Yeah. Well, how can they get
the book?
Speaker 17 (01:33:34):
Anywhere you can possibly buy a book.
Speaker 1 (01:33:36):
You can get it. Amazon, Books A Million. We like Amazon,
but Barnes & Noble, Books A Million. Wherever you can
get a book. Oh, my God.
Speaker 2 (01:33:43):
Both of my kids got memberships at Books A Million.
Speaker 15 (01:33:45):
Yay!
Speaker 1 (01:33:49):
Or pick it up if you're out and about. Thank
you for joining us so much. Shiloh and the Not-So-Scary
Girl Above His Bed. That's right. Christian and Martel Jordan.
Thank y'all for having us.
Speaker 3 (01:33:56):
Thank you.
Speaker 1 (01:33:57):
Thank you so much. It's The Breakfast Club. Good morning.
Let's get to the latest with Lauren. We're going to
be coming with straight facts. She gets them from somebody
that knows somebody. She gets the details.
Speaker 2 (01:34:06):
I'm the homegirl that knows a little bit about everything.
Speaker 1 (01:34:10):
She be having the latest on you. The latest with
Lauren La Rosa. Sometimes you have facts. Sometimes you have details.
Sometimes you have a little bit of everything. What was
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The Breakfast Club. LL Cool Bay, top dog low.
Speaker 5 (01:34:26):
Yes.
Speaker 8 (01:34:26):
Hey.
Speaker 3 (01:34:27):
All right.
Speaker 2 (01:34:28):
So over the weekend, we've been following this, just kind
of talking about things as they happen a bit. Little Dirk,
Little Dirk, over the weekend, it was announced that he
was found not guilty in the murder for hire case
that is happening in L.A., So he is now exonerated
in this murder for hire case because the jury found
him not guilty on all five of the charges. It
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only took them three days to deliberate to return this
verdict and his alleged involvement in that 2022 shooting in L.A.
that ended up in Quando Rondo's cousin being killed.
Speaker 4 (01:35:01):
So, yeah.
Speaker 1 (01:35:02):
But he's still locked up though, right?
Speaker 2 (01:35:03):
Yeah, he's still locked up because he has another case
that he's fighting. There's another RICO case that he's fighting
that he's going to have to deal with over in Chicago.
Speaker 4 (01:35:10):
But, yeah, I mean, this is a big... thing to
walk away from.
Speaker 2 (01:35:14):
I saw a lot of people pointing to, you know,
Brian Steele as, you know, on the defense team and, yeah,
Drew Finland as well on the defense team. But I honestly,
I didn't know what was going to happen, but I
don't know if I knew it would be like he
just walked away from all of those charges.
Speaker 1 (01:35:30):
I mean, like I said before, I never... I never
understood what they had on, Dirk, because when you put
these guys on the stand that are confessing to all
of these different crimes that they committed and they're trying
to save their own ass, they can point the finger
at anybody. I never understood the whole cooperating witness thing.
Unless you got evidence and then you got people that are,
(01:35:54):
I guess, validating that evidence, I never understood the whole
cooperating witness thing. You can just put somebody on the
stand and they can just... Accused you of all types
of stuff?
Speaker 6 (01:36:00):
Yeah, they're supposed to be telling the truth because if
they cooperate, they get less time. But, like, yeah, if
you're talking about life and you could possibly get some
numbers where you could come home, you're going to say
anything you have to to say to get home.
Speaker 1 (01:36:12):
Yeah, but sometimes... But.
Speaker 2 (01:36:14):
I will say, sometimes that works because the defense isn't
as good as showing you that these people are not trustworthy.
So that legal team that Dirk has set up, I
don't care who sent them, who did not send them, they.
Speaker 4 (01:36:25):
They did a good job.
Speaker 1 (01:36:26):
Yes. I ain't heard y'all give no praises to Allah
yet because I will tell you this. Well, I can't
wait to see what God has in store for Lil
Durk because before Durk went in, he clearly was trying
to change his life.
Speaker 3 (01:36:38):
Clearly.
Speaker 1 (01:36:38):
Like, you know, his album called Almost Healed. you know,
he was going to therapy and things of that nature.
Like he was given, he had submitted his will to God. Like,
so I can't wait to see what the second act
is after this.
Speaker 2 (01:36:49):
Well, real quick, before we stop talking about Lil Durk,
I do want to mention Amber Grimes sat down with
his mom, Lil Durk's mom on If You Knew Better,
which is her podcast.
Speaker 4 (01:36:58):
It's on the Black Effect podcast network.
Speaker 2 (01:37:00):
And it was so sad to hear, but Lil Durk's
mom was talking about kind of who she blamed for
all that Durk recently went through.
Speaker 4 (01:37:06):
Let's take a listen.
Speaker 13 (01:37:07):
I feel like Everything that has happened is my fault.
I blame myself for my son getting killed and I
blame myself for my son being locked up. I know
for a fact it's my fault because if I would
listen to my mom then on what to do and
how to do it, how to move, how to go
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finish school, how to get your career going so that
you can get about the neighborhood that we're living in,
which is 7220. And I kept putting it off like, Oh,
I got plenty of time to do that. If I
would have listened like I was supposed to, we would
have been somewhere totally different. They would have been raised different.
And I felt like everything would have been better. Right now,
I'm just going through the motions right now to try
(01:37:51):
to get everything back on track.
Speaker 15 (01:37:53):
Do you believe there's still time for you to do that?
Speaker 9 (01:37:56):
Yes.
Speaker 13 (01:37:57):
It's never too late. I've been asked my children for forgiveness.
And they're like, for what?
Speaker 2 (01:38:03):
What did you do?
Speaker 1 (01:38:04):
They think the world of me.
Speaker 13 (01:38:06):
And I never understood why.
Speaker 1 (01:38:08):
That's powerful.
Speaker 2 (01:38:09):
Yeah. And again, that was If You Knew Better. It
was a conversation with Amber Grimes. And her name is Ms.
LaShonda Woodard. That's Dirk's mom. So she was talking about
the passing of his brother D-Thing as well, too.
Speaker 1 (01:38:18):
But yeah. It's understandable, right?
Speaker 6 (01:38:20):
Because as parents, you want to make sure that you
put your kids in the best predicament, in the best situation,
whatever that may be. And sometimes we work hard to
do it. And I understand why she would feel that way.
I'm sure she feels like if I would have did
it this way, I would have got out of that
part of Chicago. I would have been able to raise
them in this part. And maybe they wouldn't have went
down a lifestyle like they did. But you also can't
blame yourself, right? Because you don't have a... You're doing.
Speaker 4 (01:38:43):
The best you can with what you have.
Speaker 1 (01:38:44):
Match all of it to the future. But she's essentially
saying she wished she would have broke But I think
one of the most important things that she said was
she should have listened to the adults that came before her.
If she'd have listened to her mom, then she would
have made better choices and she would have got out
that environment and things might have been different. for her kids.
So it's a lot of different lessons to be learned
in that. But one of the biggest takeaways is listen
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to the people who came before you.
Speaker 8 (01:39:07):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (01:39:07):
Okay.
Speaker 10 (01:39:08):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (01:39:08):
And I know it was emotional for her and her
family and for Dirk. I saw some of the reporters
in the courtroom mentioned how emotional it was for them.
Speaker 4 (01:39:14):
So yes.
Speaker 1 (01:39:14):
All right, y'all.
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Speaker 6 (01:39:25):
Now, let's get to the mix. Today is Nas' birthday.
We're going to start the mix off with some Nas.
It's The Breakfast Club.
Speaker 1 (01:39:30):
Good morning. Good morning, everybody.
Speaker 6 (01:39:31):
It's DJ Envy, Jess Hilarious, Charlamagne Tha Guy.
Speaker 1 (01:39:35):
We are The Breakfast Club. I want to salute to
my little baby girls again.
Speaker 2 (01:39:38):
Yes.
Speaker 1 (01:39:39):
Brooklyn and London.
Speaker 3 (01:39:40):
Fire.
Speaker 6 (01:39:41):
If you didn't listen to earlier, they made the New
York City's Kids Dancer.
Speaker 1 (01:39:45):
So, they are. Fire.
Speaker 6 (01:39:46):
Going to be dancing at the home game. So if
you head to some of the Knicks games, you probably.
Speaker 1 (01:39:50):
Will see them. Hopefully you'll see them. I'm super duper excited.
Speaker 6 (01:39:53):
There's 26 kids to make the team, but they divide
them off to 13 to 13 because they are kids
and they are working and they are getting paid.
Speaker 1 (01:40:01):
They can only work a certain amount.
Speaker 6 (01:40:02):
Of hours a week. So they will be working. So
they will be getting their first checks and I'm excited
for them. So they understand how important this is and
how they got to be on time, how they got
to be with kids.
Speaker 1 (01:40:12):
They have a special appearances. It's pretty dope.
Speaker 6 (01:40:14):
So salute again to the Nick City Kids Dancers. Salute
to LaToya, who was the coach. Salute to Jen. They
are the choreographers of this thing, and they really, really,
really love the kids.
Speaker 1 (01:40:25):
So I just want to say thank you. I'm just
happy they're making some money.
Speaker 7 (01:40:28):
Again.
Speaker 1 (01:40:28):
My daughter was a cheerleader, and boy, they don't make
no money. Them cheerleading competitions, like being a cheer dad,
you're just putting out, putting out, putting out. So the
fact that they're in dance and they're already making some money, oh,
my God. Yeah, now they're making money. They get paid
for rehearsing. They get paid for performing. They get paid
for special appearances. They get paid for all that. And
they're super duper excited. I know that's right.
Speaker 2 (01:40:48):
And congratulations.
Speaker 4 (01:40:49):
That got to feel good as a parent.
Speaker 1 (01:40:50):
Absolutely.
Speaker 6 (01:40:50):
I just love watching them. I just love watching them
do something that they really want to do.
Speaker 2 (01:40:54):
But you work hard to get your babies into things.
You never know what's going to stick and what's going
to happen. So I know that that feels good to
watch and see.
Speaker 1 (01:41:00):
Absolutely. And also we got to salute to Dr. Jess
for joining us this morning. Salute to Dr. Jessica Clemons.
Very important conversation we had today. Speaking of babies. Yes,
very important conversation we had today about postpartum psychosis. You know, Dr.
Jessica Clemons is a board-certified psychiatrist, and, you know, that
is her specialty, you know, dealing with pregnant women and
(01:41:20):
maternal health. So salute to her, you know, maternal mental health,
you know. So salute to Dr. Jessica Clemons, and make
sure you go check out that full conversation on Netflix.
Speaker 6 (01:41:30):
And also salute to Kristen and Montel Jordan for joining us.
They stopped through today to talk about their new children's book,
Shiloh and the Not-So-Scary Girl Above His Bed, a book
about overcoming fear with faith. So salute to them.
Speaker 1 (01:41:45):
For joining us.
Speaker 2 (01:41:45):
Why would you point to me?
Speaker 1 (01:41:47):
You just sent me something, and I was on a
flight with him yesterday. Oh, okay. You know who I
want to salute to? I want to salute to Mr.
Speaker 8 (01:41:54):
Abdul.
Speaker 1 (01:41:56):
Salute to you, brother. That is a scissors father. You know,
every time I run into scissors parents, you know, Miss
Audrey and Mr. Abdul, they're all always very pleasant people, man.
And I saw Mr. Abdul last night. Got to spend
some time with him and have a have a have
a conversation. So salute to him.
Speaker 2 (01:42:12):
Older people love you.
Speaker 1 (01:42:14):
I'm a nice human.
Speaker 2 (01:42:15):
I know you are. You just don't act like it
all the time. But you are.
Speaker 1 (01:42:18):
You are. Does any human act like it?
Speaker 2 (01:42:20):
You fine by me.
Speaker 1 (01:42:21):
I'm consistent.
Speaker 4 (01:42:22):
What the auntie say?
Speaker 2 (01:42:22):
You fine by me. Get over there and do that
little dance.
Speaker 3 (01:42:24):
No, no, no.
Speaker 1 (01:42:24):
Them aunties be like, you so handsome.
Speaker 2 (01:42:27):
No, I don't know what it is.
Speaker 4 (01:42:29):
It's the cataracts. It's the cataracts.
Speaker 1 (01:42:31):
Because I'm 90s rom-com fine. Baby. How do you say
it to him? He says, how do you say I am? Like,
usually people say you are.
Speaker 2 (01:42:36):
No, it's the cataracts. I promise you. Every time somebody
be like, they be like, the eyes.
Speaker 4 (01:42:39):
I be like, of the devil?
Speaker 3 (01:42:40):
The eyes.
Speaker 1 (01:42:41):
They think you're a woman. The eyes.
Speaker 4 (01:42:43):
The brows.
Speaker 1 (01:42:44):
When we come back, positive notice of Breakfast Club. Envy
just described me and got bricked up. He's like, no,
it's a thick thigh. You see, they think he a woman.
You see how he just described me? Why are you
thinking about me like that? Time to get up out
of here. You got a positive note?
Speaker 3 (01:42:55):
Yes.
Speaker 1 (01:42:56):
First, I want to tell everybody, though, you know my
sixth annual Mental Wealth Expo is happening on World Mental
Health Day at the Joelle and Diane Bloom Wellness and
Event Center. and Newark, New Jersey. It is a completely
free event. Salute to the good brother, Dr. Jay Barnett.
He will be there. The good sister, Debbie Brown, she's
hosting it along with me, and she's curating the whole event, man.
Speaker 5 (01:43:17):
Dr.
Speaker 1 (01:43:17):
Rita Walker, the author of The Unapologetic Guide to Black
Mental Health, she's going to be there. The good brother,
Kiara Gaines, is going to be there. Elliot Connie is
going to be there. Salute to Michelle Williams. She's back
joining us this year. The last couple of years, She's
been on Broadway, but she's going to be there with
us at the Mental Wealth Expo. And just right now,
I am letting everybody know that Dr. Julius Thomas will
(01:43:41):
be there along with Dr. Ayanla Vanzant. And we are
doing a healing the heart and rewiring the brain presentation
with Dr. Julius Thomas and Dr. Ayan Levanzant. So Saturday,
October 10th, doors open at 1030 a.m. The Joelle and
Diane Bloom Wellness and Events Center in Newark, New Jersey.
(01:44:02):
It is a free event, completely free and open to
all ages. Just go to mentalwealthexpo.com, the RSVP to be there. Now,
the positive note is simply this. Abundance often arrives when
desperation leaves. OK, the less you chase from a place
of lack, the more freely life begins to unfold. Not
because the universe rewards indifference, but because contentment frees you
(01:44:23):
to recognize opportunities you once overlooked. When your heart is
no longer grasping, your hands are finally grasping. Open to receive.
Have a great day. Breakfast Club, bitches! Y'all finished or
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you mess with the bull, you get the horns.
Woke up, woke up, wake you up, wake you up,
wake that ass up, program your alarm to power 105.1
on iHeartRadio. Good morning, USA!
Speaker 2 (00:15):
Good morning!
Speaker 1 (00:16):
Charlemagne the God! Peace to the planet, it's Monday! Hey,
how y'all feel out there? I feel blessed, black, and
highly favored. Happy to be here. Another day to serve
our beautiful listeners. Good morning. Good morning. What's up, Lauren?
How you feeling? I see you out and about Fashion Week.
Speaker 2 (00:31):
Yes, I am tired, but I am here. I had
a great week, great weekend, great night last night. Unc
took me outside.
Speaker 1 (00:39):
Yeah, we was in these streets last night. That's why
I got on shades right now. Why you have on shades?
I don't know. I feel like my eyes might be
puffy or something.
Speaker 2 (00:48):
No, you got to hold them regular.
Speaker 1 (00:50):
You look fine. I look fine?
Speaker 3 (00:51):
Yes.
Speaker 4 (00:52):
You still feel like last night.
Speaker 1 (00:54):
Last night was fun.
Speaker 4 (00:54):
Yeah, we had a good time last night.
Speaker 1 (00:55):
It was fun. What'd you guys do last night?
Speaker 2 (00:57):
We went to Jay-Z's JN8 documentary premiere in New York.
So I ended my fashion week with that, but fashion
week's still going.
Speaker 1 (01:06):
Yeah, it's still going on.
Speaker 4 (01:08):
It really started Thursday, but people just do their own thing.
Speaker 1 (01:11):
That's crazy, bro. I was at Avizu. Salute to Avizu.
They had a fashion week. You didn't have much fun
as us.
Speaker 5 (01:18):
Huh?
Speaker 1 (01:18):
You ain't have as much fun as us. I sure did.
I think I had more fun than y'all. No, you didn't.
I sure did. I promise you, you did. I promise you,
I did. I promise you, I did. You had a
lot of fun.
Speaker 5 (01:25):
It's crazy.
Speaker 1 (01:26):
I promise you, you did.
Speaker 6 (01:26):
She gonna report in a little bit what my weekend
was like. But, uh, salute to everybody in the VESU.
They had a fast week event. It was like a
block party.
Speaker 3 (01:32):
What is a VESU?
Speaker 1 (01:32):
The jeans. Remember the jeans? These ain't... These is a VESU.
Speaker 7 (01:35):
Oh, yes.
Speaker 1 (01:35):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 6 (01:36):
They had a block party in, uh... I pulled up
to them last night, and then I was in Detroit yesterday.
And salute to everybody at Detroit at the Sandbox. And
I got a chance to watch my Giants play last night.
Speaker 1 (01:47):
The Giants played last night? Not really. They didn't really play.
It was no competition. That's crazy. We'll talk about it
in a little bit. The football season started? Yeah, it started.
Everybody started. Nah, it ain't started. It was no competition, though.
That's crazy. I didn't know it started. Did my team
get the memo? No, they didn't get the memo. They
definitely didn't get the memo. They didn't know what was
going on. That's crazy. We'll talk about that in front page.
(02:09):
That's insane. Tell me about the Hove. What happened at
the Hove event last night?
Speaker 2 (02:12):
We're going to get into it in the latest, but
it was exciting. I got to meet Jay-Z and Beyonce.
Speaker 1 (02:17):
You did? Yes.
Speaker 3 (02:18):
That's crazy.
Speaker 1 (02:18):
That's time.
Speaker 4 (02:20):
They introduced themselves.
Speaker 1 (02:21):
Yes. So humble. So humble.
Speaker 2 (02:24):
Jay-Z was like, I don't think we've met before.
Speaker 1 (02:25):
I'm Jay.
Speaker 4 (02:26):
I was like, duh.
Speaker 1 (02:27):
That's crazy.
Speaker 4 (02:28):
I didn't even know how to respond to that because
I wanted.
Speaker 1 (02:30):
To be like, duh.
Speaker 7 (02:32):
Lauren.
Speaker 1 (02:32):
No, I knew my name, but I'm like.
Speaker 2 (02:34):
Why are you telling me your name?
Speaker 1 (02:35):
They do that all the time. Beyonce does that all
the time. That's what people of respect and honor and
high integrity do.
Speaker 4 (02:41):
Very much so. It was a great night, great room,
but just a good time.
Speaker 2 (02:45):
But the conversation and that documentary, when it drops and
people get to watch it, It's going to be real.
Speaker 1 (02:49):
When does it come out?
Speaker 4 (02:50):
It comes out on the 18th.
Speaker 1 (02:52):
We didn't see it in full either, by the way.
Speaker 5 (02:53):
We didn't.
Speaker 4 (02:53):
We only saw it. I believe it was just a
full episode. We only saw a part of it.
Speaker 1 (02:57):
Was that just an episode?
Speaker 4 (02:58):
I don't even know if it was a full episode,
but we saw a part of the documentary.
Speaker 1 (03:02):
That's crazy. I didn't even think about that. That might
have been a whole episode.
Speaker 2 (03:04):
It felt like it.
Speaker 1 (03:05):
It was great, though. Yeah, because it was like an
hour long. But I thought, for whatever reason, I was
thinking that they were just going to do one song
an episode. But no, they do like three or four
songs an episode.
Speaker 2 (03:13):
And it releases in full on the 18th. But you're
going to write down what it's about. Yeah, we're going
to write down what it's about. And we're going to
get into kind of, you know, what it's about. what
we got to watch and some of the things.
Speaker 1 (03:22):
It's about what all of this should be about, and
that's culture.
Speaker 3 (03:25):
Okay.
Speaker 1 (03:26):
Music and culture. You know what I'm saying? Like, when
we think about what we do, it's really music, and
it's the intersectionality of music and, you know, sometimes, well,
a lot of times, fashion, you know? But, yes, it's
about culture. Okay. It's 30 years of a prolific career.
I would never, ever in my life downplay the inspiration
that somebody like Jay-Z provides for a human like me.
That's right.
Speaker 8 (03:46):
Okay?
Speaker 1 (03:47):
Never ever. All right.
Speaker 2 (03:48):
Jonathan ain't still sweating from last night.
Speaker 1 (03:50):
I see him still sweating. He's sweating. He just got in.
I didn't even drink. It's just everything was hot last night.
You didn't think everything was hot? It was humid.
Speaker 4 (03:56):
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (03:57):
I was just enjoying it. It was humid outside last night.
It was humid outside for a little bit. Then it
was cool in the building. Then it was cool in
the building. But it felt like somebody turned the AC off.
So it was a little hot. Then you start dancing.
You know what I mean? But that was last night.
Why are you still wiping sweat? Because I just ran
up them stairs. Okay, that's the reason why. I just
ran up them two flights of stairs. Well, let's get
this show cracking. And I had on a jacket when
I walked in here. I don't know why. I don't
(04:17):
know why. And I was jogging down the block to
get here.
Speaker 6 (04:19):
Let's get this show cracking. Kristen and Montel Jordan will
be joining us. They have a new children's book, Shiloh
and the Not-So-Scary Girl Above His Bed. I thought it
was Under His Bed.
Speaker 1 (04:30):
It's above his bed? Yeah, it's under his bed. I
don't know why. Not so scary?
Speaker 3 (04:32):
Oh, no, no, no.
Speaker 1 (04:33):
Above his bed because the monster is told from the
perspective of the monster. Right, you're right. So the monster's
under the bed. And also, man, Dr. Jessica Clemons will
be joining us today. Dr. Jessica Clemons is a board-certified psychiatrist.
And the reason I really wanted her here this morning
is because all of these conversations we're having about postpartum
psychosis because of the Lindsay Clancy case. And, you know,
World Mental Health Day is right around the corner, so...
(04:55):
She's a great person to have here to talk to
this morning. All right.
Speaker 6 (04:58):
Well, let's get the show cracking. Today is Nas' birthday. Queens,
get the money. Can we get some Nas on this morning?
Speaker 1 (05:03):
Happy birthday, Nasir. I'll take that. It's the Breakfast Club.
Good morning. Good morning, everybody.
Speaker 6 (05:07):
It's DJ Envy, Jess Hilarious, Charlamagne Tha Guy. We are
the Breakfast Club. Let's get in some front page news.
Speaker 1 (05:14):
Let's start with some football. Seriously, the NFL started? The
Lions beat the Saints 31-30. Shoot to everybody in Detroit.
What up, Doe? The Ravens beat the Colts. The Jets, wow.
Speaker 6 (05:23):
Jets beat the Titans 23-10. The Steelers beat the Falcons.
Vikings beat the Packers. Cardinals beat the Chargers. Eagles beat
the Commanders. Raiders beat the Dolphins. The Bears squashed the
Panthers 59-37. The Bills beat the Texans. The Jaguars beat
the Browns. The Bengals beat the Buccaneers.
Speaker 1 (05:39):
Oh, yeah, and them Giants, where you at, Trav? I
see you all in the game, all in the video.
The Giants beat the Cowboys 28-20. I didn't even know
the NFL season started, Joe. I was watching college football.
South Carolina State, they beat Virginia State 66-0. Okay, USC,
South Carolina Gamecocks, they busted ass on Saturday as well.
Speaker 6 (05:58):
Cowboys looked bad last night. The Cowboys played? I don't believe.
Speaker 3 (06:02):
This, Joe.
Speaker 1 (06:02):
Giants are going to the Super Bowl!
Speaker 2 (06:05):
Didn't it just start?
Speaker 1 (06:06):
I don't care. The Cowboys got smacked. They got squashed. Now,
slow down. The score was 28-20. I thought you'd watch
the game. I didn't, but I heard. Somebody told me.
The score was 28-20. I was out and about last night.
There's nothing about it. The game, the score was 28-20.
I was like, y'all busted ass. We did bust ass.
We did bust ass. Number Friday, oh, y'all gonna lose.
You shut down. You know my squad. You know what
(06:27):
we got. There's no way I said that Friday. There's
no way I said that Friday because I didn't even
know the season was starting Sunday. Good morning, Mimi.
Speaker 9 (06:35):
Good morning, MB, Sheldon, Lauren. How y'all doing this morning?
Speaker 1 (06:38):
Good morning, Tamisha Brown from Howard University.
Speaker 9 (06:42):
Good morning.
Speaker 10 (06:43):
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Speaker 1 (06:48):
Okay, B & B!
Speaker 9 (06:55):
Hey, okay, let's get right into this.
Speaker 10 (06:57):
So President Trump this morning, you guys, is doubling down
on those $ 5, 000 checks we told you about last week.
He's promising those checks to every American adult if Republicans
keep control of Congress. Now, Trump, he first announced this
idea last week, and on Sunday, he was asked, this
was yesterday when he was in Ireland, he was asked
whether Congress would have to approve the money and whether
(07:19):
the government could actually afford it.
Speaker 9 (07:20):
Let's listen.
Speaker 11 (07:22):
If the Republicans win, as I said, it's $ 5, 000 to
all adults in the country, and we can easily handle that.
because we're taking in so much money. We've never done better.
The Democrats can't make that pledge because it'll all go
to hell right away. If the Democrats get in, you'll
go into a depression.
Speaker 1 (07:39):
If we get in, we will continue this incredible situation.
Speaker 9 (07:43):
I mean, we have the strongest, we're the strongest we've
ever been.
Speaker 11 (07:45):
We have trillions of dollars coming into the country. And
the 5,000 is going to everybody.
Speaker 1 (07:50):
I made that pledge. I always keep my pledge. This
is what I don't understand, right? Like, you know, Republicans
currently control both chambers of the U.S. Congress. Why don't
somebody just ask him a simple question? How come you
just don't give people the checks now?
Speaker 9 (08:02):
Right now.
Speaker 1 (08:03):
Why you just don't do it right now? Like, I
don't understand why the media is even playing this game
with him. Somebody's had to ask him that already, right?
Speaker 10 (08:11):
I thought of it because right now there's already Republicans
and both in the Senate and in the House and
the presidency.
Speaker 1 (08:19):
So they hold majorities in both of them in the
House and Senate. You cut the check now.
Speaker 12 (08:23):
Exactly.
Speaker 9 (08:24):
Exactly.
Speaker 10 (08:25):
But it's important to say that critics are calling this
a campaign bribe, an attempt to buy votes, and they
are telling voters not to fall for it.
Speaker 9 (08:33):
And so we will continue to follow that.
Speaker 10 (08:35):
But Congress would also have to vote on something like that.
The president does not have the power to just give
everyone a $ 5, 000 check. And this morning, there's a major
shakeup coming to SNAP benefits, and it's supposed to happen
at the end of September. So This is all part
of President Trump's one big, beautiful bill. So there are
already work requirements in place, which have made it harder
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for people to keep their SNAP benefits, not to mention
the administrative hurdles signing up now takes. Those extra steps
have led people, you know, just being kicked off the program.
And now what's new this morning is the question of
who is going to bear the cost of SNAP, the
administrative costs. So right now states pay half, but starting
October 1st, they'll pay 75%, and that could lead to
(09:21):
more people being kicked off because that's a bigger burden
for states to bear.
Speaker 9 (09:25):
So right now it's 50-50.
Speaker 10 (09:26):
Starting October 1st, states will have to take on more
of that cost and pay 75%. Food access groups, they're
calling for Congress to push this back. They say states
need more time to figure out how they're going to
come up with this extra funding so that people do
not get kicked off of their SNAP benefits. So we
will continue to watch that. And lastly, you may have
(09:47):
noticed that gas prices keep creeping.
Speaker 1 (09:49):
Back up in national average. They are high.
Speaker 12 (09:51):
Yes.
Speaker 9 (09:53):
They have definitely gone way back up.
Speaker 10 (09:55):
So just 13 cents in the last week, about 30
cents in this month.
Speaker 9 (09:59):
So we're at about $ 4.
Speaker 10 (10:00):
30. But the diesel, diesel may be the bigger story.
It is now the highest it's ever been, topping $ 6
a gallon nationwide. The average is $ 6. In California, it's
like $ 8. 30 for the first time. And that matters because
even if you don't drive diesel, you don't drive. Truckers
do in those trucks. They move your food. They move
your clothes. Just about anything you buy. And so here's
(10:23):
what everyday people are saying about the gas prices.
Speaker 1 (10:25):
This is crazy out here. You work so hard to
make ends meet and... take care of your family, and
next thing you know, gas went up overnight.
Speaker 13 (10:33):
I just wish that gas prices were a lot cheaper
so we could all do things that are extra, you know,
like groceries.
Speaker 10 (10:40):
It's now $ 48 to fill my, to do a half
a tank.
Speaker 1 (10:44):
Isn't that awful? That's a crime. And your president got
the nerve to tell y'all we're going to a depression.
If Dems get back in power in the midterms, the
truth of the matter is we might, though, because we
are already on that trajectory because of Donald Trump and
all the foolish policies he's implemented that have us in
this current debacle that we're in. All right.
Speaker 10 (11:02):
Coming up at seven, we're learning more about the mysterious
death of Tasia Fortune. Police say they have arrested a suspect,
but we'll tell you why some people don't. Or having
a hard time believing that it was actually the suspect.
Speaker 9 (11:13):
We'll get into it.
Speaker 3 (11:14):
All right.
Speaker 1 (11:14):
Everybody else, get it off your chest. 800-585-1051.
Speaker 6 (11:16):
If you need to vent, maybe you had a great week.
Speaker 1 (11:20):
And Trav, you want to call? Let me tell you
something else. Huh, Trav?
Speaker 8 (11:22):
Y'all there?
Speaker 1 (11:22):
Menopause is real. Don't ever think menopause is not real
when you get to a certain age. That's why you
see some men of a certain age just walk around
with a towel. You know what I'm saying? I did
not drink nothing.
Speaker 2 (11:32):
Also, just some advice. Take the book out of there
and it'll be better.
Speaker 1 (11:36):
The book ain't in here, crazy human.
Speaker 2 (11:38):
That's better for you to fan with.
Speaker 1 (11:39):
That'd be too heavy. You need a fan. There's a
million and one fans in here. This guy drank last night.
Look at him.
Speaker 2 (11:46):
Honestly, I didn't see.
Speaker 4 (11:47):
I only gave him water.
Speaker 1 (11:48):
Look at him. I didn't drink nothing last night, boy.
Look at him.
Speaker 5 (11:52):
800-585-1051.
Speaker 1 (11:52):
It's The Breakfast Club. Good morning. Ray, Ray, Ray. Yo, Charlamagne. Desi,
what up?
Speaker 2 (11:58):
Are we live?
Speaker 1 (11:59):
This is your time to get it off your chest.
Speaker 4 (12:01):
I got an indoor pool, an outdoor pool.
Speaker 1 (12:03):
We want to hear from you on The Breakfast Club.
Speaker 8 (12:05):
We can get on the phone right now.
Speaker 1 (12:06):
He'll tell you what it is. Are we live? Hello,
who's this? Damien from Connecticut. Damien from Connecticut. What up, Damien?
Get it off your chest. Yo, Envy, how we feeling?
Speaker 5 (12:15):
Johnny says, won last night.
Speaker 1 (12:17):
I feel great. How you feel, Damien? Yo, I feel great.
Speaker 6 (12:20):
You know, it's always good to beat them boys week one.
Speaker 1 (12:22):
Yo, shut the hell up. It didn't even happen. You
making up stuff. We look good yesterday, too, man.
Speaker 6 (12:27):
I told everybody. We going to be pretty good. Our
O-line just need to be a little better, but we
look pretty good last night.
Speaker 1 (12:32):
Did Odell look good?
Speaker 3 (12:33):
Nah, thanks.
Speaker 1 (12:34):
Odell ain't really looking good. Odell was burned. Odell ain't? Oh, okay.
I thought you were going to say he looked good
because you always thought he was cute. No, he didn't
get too much burn last night.
Speaker 8 (12:42):
Bye.
Speaker 1 (12:42):
That's all you got for us, David? Bye.
Speaker 5 (12:44):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (12:45):
Bye.
Speaker 8 (12:46):
I love you, man.
Speaker 1 (12:47):
Yeah, love you too.
Speaker 5 (12:48):
Bye.
Speaker 1 (12:48):
He a little hurt. He a little hurt. He a
little hurt.
Speaker 3 (12:51):
I'm not hurt.
Speaker 1 (12:52):
I didn't even know the game happened last night. Yes,
you did.
Speaker 3 (12:53):
Hello.
Speaker 9 (12:54):
Who's this?
Speaker 5 (12:55):
Hi. Good morning. Good morning. Is Jess here?
Speaker 2 (12:59):
No, Jess is up.
Speaker 1 (13:00):
No, she took off. She had, I think, like six,
seven shows this weekend in Baltimore, so I'm sure she's up.
That ain't no excuse to take off, but she took off.
It's not, but she did take off.
Speaker 3 (13:08):
Okay.
Speaker 5 (13:08):
Hi, DJ and V. Hi, Charlamagne. I watch y'all every morning.
Speaker 1 (13:12):
Good morning.
Speaker 3 (13:13):
Peace. How are you?
Speaker 5 (13:14):
I'm doing okay. I want to get something off my chest.
Speaker 1 (13:17):
Go ahead, mama.
Speaker 5 (13:19):
So I lost one of my pups probably about two
months ago.
Speaker 11 (13:24):
Oh.
Speaker 5 (13:25):
And my daughter was the one that witnessed it. I
didn't even see it, and she's only six. And, you know,
the last couple of months, She was just saying, like, Mom,
you know, I want another dog. And I was like, okay, well,
I started searching. And, you know, I did, like, Facebook
Marketplace and everything the same way I got my other dog.
And I purchased so many things, and I've never had
(13:47):
an issue. Well, I found a dog, and it was
so cute, and I showed it to her. And we
drove about an hour, and I paid a deposit. And
when we got there, they blocked me. And it wasn't
even about the money. It was more so... My daughter
just crying and crying and saying, why do people lie?
Speaker 1 (14:08):
Why did they block you? Yeah, what happened? Why did
they block you?
Speaker 5 (14:11):
They didn't want to pay. I think it was just
a scam. They didn't really have the dog. They just
really took my deposit.
Speaker 1 (14:19):
Oh, man. You said the dog was coming from where?
Speaker 5 (14:21):
Well, I live in Louisiana, and so they were meeting
me closer to Laplace. So I drove me and my
daughter about an hour to meet them. And it was
so hard just watching her just so upset that she
was like, why would people do this?
Speaker 2 (14:40):
What kind of dog was it?
Speaker 1 (14:42):
What kind of dog?
Speaker 5 (14:43):
It was a small little brown teacup poodle. It was
the cutest thing.
Speaker 1 (14:48):
It was a teacup with the small ones?
Speaker 9 (14:49):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (14:50):
And it's just, you know, people are just so mean.
And I told her, I said, look, we're going to
find you one. We're going to find somebody that's honest.
And I said, next time, You know, we're going to get.
Speaker 1 (15:03):
You a dog. Why don't you go to the local
shelter and rescue one of those dogs? Yeah, go adopt
a dog. I didn't know people buy dogs off Facebook Marketplace. But,
you know, think about going to the shelter and getting
one of those dogs that, like, actually need a home and,
you know, are close. I don't want to say close
to death, but, you know. Yeah, go adopt a dog.
Speaker 5 (15:20):
No.
Speaker 8 (15:22):
I wanted to be, you know, a little.
Speaker 5 (15:23):
Cute, small, like what I did have. I had a
small Pomeranian. I think she just liked dogs.
Speaker 1 (15:28):
Oh, the small dogs.
Speaker 5 (15:29):
Tiny, and then, you know, she could be having a
bed with her and things like that. She just has
this visualization.
Speaker 2 (15:35):
Of what she wants.
Speaker 1 (15:36):
Can I ask you a question? I know this might
be a little too dramatic, but how did she witness
the dog passing? Like, what happened?
Speaker 5 (15:41):
Well, we still went by the acre of land, but
whenever she was leaving with my grandmother, the dog ran
out the house behind them and ran.
Speaker 1 (15:50):
Into the street. Damn!
Speaker 5 (15:52):
So, it was, like, right in front of her. So,
when I heard her screaming, that's when I came out.
Speaker 1 (15:58):
And Man, I witnessed something like that when I was young, man.
My cousin, I don't even want to say his name,
but he had a little dog and that dog got
loose and ran off into the highway while we was
at the bus stop waiting on the bus and got
hit by a car. And the way he screamed and
ran into the middle of the highway and dropped to
his knees was so sad.
Speaker 5 (16:19):
You just never forget it.
Speaker 1 (16:21):
Yes, it was.
Speaker 5 (16:22):
I didn't see it, but what I am grateful for that,
you know, when Hazel did pass. It only broke her neck,
but it wasn't like splattered blood.
Speaker 3 (16:32):
You know, I was crazy.
Speaker 1 (16:34):
Now, come on now. That was crazy. Why would you
say it like that now? That's what you mean only
broke its neck. That was horrible. I'm so sorry for you.
Could you stop? Thank you so much for calling in. Listen,
I hope that y'all find a dog, though. I didn't
know you buy dogs off Facebook marketplace.
Speaker 2 (16:48):
If y'all know anybody, or if anybody knows.
Speaker 8 (16:51):
Someone in the Louisiana area, Areas that sell small dolls.
Speaker 5 (16:55):
I would just like them to reach out via email
or something. Can I get my email?
Speaker 1 (17:01):
Sure, go ahead.
Speaker 5 (17:02):
It's Elisa, E-L-I-S-A, Marsalis. M-A-R-S-A-L-I-S at yahoo.com.
Speaker 1 (17:11):
Alyssa, I don't want you to think I'm laughing at you.
I don't want nobody that's watching to think I'm laughing.
Speaker 5 (17:15):
No, no.
Speaker 1 (17:15):
Because our boy, Brad, is so stupid. He talking about, no,
she can't go to the shelter because the shelter only
got pit bulls. Like, the pit bulls are just so downtrodden. No,
I ain't no liar. They got all types of dogs
in the shelter. Like, the pit bulls are so wild.
Speaker 8 (17:30):
It might let you traumatize her.
Speaker 5 (17:32):
Like, if you see a dog, like, near death.
Speaker 1 (17:35):
I didn't mean to say near death. I don't know
what I'm trying to say. I'm just trying to say
the shelter is a good place to go get dogs.
A lot of these dogs need a home. Just think
of these dogs as little tiny orphans. Little four-legged orphans
that need a home. Imagine if Annie was a puppy.
Speaker 12 (17:51):
Right.
Speaker 6 (17:51):
But that's why your mom, I tell you sometimes, don't ask, right?
Because if you ask, you might not really want to
know what happened to the dog. You don't have to
ask that. She said the dog passed away. That's all
you needed to know. No, I didn't want to know
because I did witness the dog. I witnessed the dog
get hit by a car before, man.
Speaker 1 (18:05):
I'm telling you, my cousin, and it's just the way he,
it was his reaction, not the fact that the dog
fell out.
Speaker 2 (18:10):
I discovered my dog dead.
Speaker 1 (18:11):
He looked to the sky and screamed, his blood curdling screams,
and he ran out in the highway and dropped to
his knees. And we were like, you're going to get
hit next if you don't get up the road.
Speaker 2 (18:21):
Oh, he was on his knees.
Speaker 1 (18:23):
On his knees in the highway. In the highway. Highway 17,
eight months going to South Carolina. I'll never forget that
as long as I live. It's Monday. Get it off
your chest. 800-585-451. It's the Breakfast Club.
Speaker 3 (18:33):
Good morning.
Speaker 1 (18:36):
This is your time to get it off your chest,
whether you're mad or blessed. I hate the way that
you walk, the way that you talk. I hate the
way that you dress. Everything with me is best. Call
up now, 800-585-1051. Not just me, I'm what the coach
will feel it. Yo, it's Q from Atlanta. Q, what's up, Q? Peace, Q.
Speaker 5 (18:56):
What's up?
Speaker 3 (18:56):
Today's my birthday.
Speaker 5 (18:57):
Holy * * * *, I'm on the phone with y'all.
Speaker 1 (19:00):
Happy birthday, Q.
Speaker 2 (19:00):
Happy birthday, Q.
Speaker 1 (19:01):
How old are you, young man? Appreciate it.
Speaker 3 (19:03):
I just turned 35 today. Okay.
Speaker 1 (19:05):
Congratulations, young man. Happy birthday, brother.
Speaker 9 (19:08):
Hey, and I want to.
Speaker 3 (19:08):
Tell y'all something. Like, last year, my third grade best
friend called.
Speaker 5 (19:12):
In, and I heard him on the radio and whatnot.
Speaker 3 (19:15):
That was so dope.
Speaker 1 (19:17):
What's her name? Doe. It was Mark, but I'm Q,
and we went to school together. Hold on. You said her,
but then you said Mark. No, he said my best
friend from third grade. He didn't say he or she. Yeah.
I thought you said her, didn't Mark.
Speaker 2 (19:31):
His name was Mark.
Speaker 3 (19:32):
His name was Mark.
Speaker 1 (19:33):
Because it can change. He could have been Mark in
third grade. He might be Michelle now. Q is from Atlanta, so. Nah, nah, nah, nah.
Speaker 3 (19:40):
But yeah, appreciate y'all.
Speaker 1 (19:42):
Happy birthday, King. Appreciate it. Appreciate it. Have a good day.
Have some fun on this Monday, man. Enjoy life. Celebrate it. Hello,
who's this?
Speaker 5 (19:49):
Hey, good morning.
Speaker 3 (19:51):
Who?
Speaker 1 (19:52):
How y'all doing? What's up, bro?
Speaker 3 (19:54):
Yeah, I'm in the gym right now. I'm getting punished
for just a show last night. I'm on the show.
Speaker 1 (20:01):
That's nasty, man. You in the gym getting punished and
putting on a show.
Speaker 3 (20:05):
I got one of the pounds from last night.
Speaker 2 (20:07):
He said he went to just a show last night, right?
Speaker 5 (20:09):
Oh.
Speaker 1 (20:10):
Here and so i.
Speaker 3 (20:12):
Want to show you i want to show love to
jess man speaking was so amazing uh she had a
special way of making people so soon and known even
though she talked to a thousand people and for some
reason she remembered me she said what's funny um you
know you see the work that she puts behind the
scenes from how she shows up on the stage you
can tell she put in those thousand hours of work
(20:33):
to do what she does And she does so much
by my heart. I want to say tears because of
how much work she puts in. Even when she has
a family, children. And also got to see both her
husband and her baby father at the book sign.
Speaker 1 (20:49):
It's pretty cool. That's what's up. That's all we can do.
Speaker 3 (20:52):
We're looking forward to seeing more.
Speaker 1 (20:53):
I'll write it up. Thank you, brother. Hello, who's this?
Good morning.
Speaker 8 (20:57):
This is Dee Dee.
Speaker 1 (20:58):
Hey, Dee Dee. Good morning. He's Dee Dee.
Speaker 8 (21:00):
I'm calling with some boldness behind my voice this morning.
Good morning, Breakfast Club.
Speaker 2 (21:04):
Good morning, ma'am.
Speaker 1 (21:05):
How you feeling?
Speaker 2 (21:05):
Good morning.
Speaker 5 (21:06):
I'm doing fabulous.
Speaker 8 (21:07):
I'm calling from Chicago, and I just want to share
my favorite Bible verse with y'all. It's Mark 11, 24,
and it says, Therefore I say unto you, whatever you
ask for in prayer, believe you have received it, and
it shall be yours.
Speaker 1 (21:18):
And it shall be yours. Yes, ma'am.
Speaker 8 (21:21):
Listen, I also would like to boldly ask if Lauren
LaRosa would be my mentor.
Speaker 5 (21:27):
Lauren still need a mentor.
Speaker 2 (21:30):
First of all, I have mentors.
Speaker 1 (21:31):
How old are you, ma'am?
Speaker 8 (21:33):
I would love to be her mentee.
Speaker 1 (21:35):
Her mentee. How old are you?
Speaker 2 (21:36):
Oh, my goodness.
Speaker 8 (21:37):
You're never escalating for age.
Speaker 2 (21:39):
I'm in my mid-30s.
Speaker 3 (21:40):
Okay.
Speaker 1 (21:40):
I don't think that matters. I don't think age matters
when it comes to mentorship.
Speaker 2 (21:44):
What are you looking for in mentorship?
Speaker 8 (21:45):
It's her wisdom, and it's her connection. And, you know,
I'm really trying to get into boys' work. And, you know,
it doesn't have to be a longstanding mentorship. I know
she's busy, but I would just really love to get,
you know, Pour into her and let her know that
she's amazing, and I know that she would be an
amazing mentor as well.
Speaker 1 (22:03):
How much did she pay you to call in and
say this this morning?
Speaker 2 (22:05):
Thank you.
Speaker 8 (22:06):
Not one dime.
Speaker 5 (22:07):
Not one dime.
Speaker 2 (22:08):
We can take your email. I've never done voice work,
but I mean, I guess, is radio voice work?
Speaker 8 (22:13):
Absolutely, it's media and all that.
Speaker 1 (22:16):
It's media, yeah. Is that what you want to do?
You want to be in media?
Speaker 2 (22:19):
She wants to do voice work.
Speaker 8 (22:20):
I absolutely do, yeah. I mean, if you need some
voiceover work for a black privilege publishing, listen. I'm here.
Speaker 1 (22:29):
We always need people to read audio books. That's very interesting.
Speaker 8 (22:33):
Listen, if I could offer a critique, listen, the commercials,
I am an avid Apple podcast listener, and the commercials
that y'all have there, that guy with the sinus situation, listen,
I would love to replace him.
Speaker 1 (22:47):
The sinus situation. What guy with the sinus situation?
Speaker 9 (22:51):
Oh, no.
Speaker 1 (22:51):
You have a guy that does ads.
Speaker 5 (22:53):
On what?
Speaker 1 (22:55):
iHeart or Black Effect?
Speaker 8 (22:57):
Apple Podcast.
Speaker 1 (22:58):
Apple Podcast? I got to go listen.
Speaker 3 (22:59):
Hold on.
Speaker 1 (23:00):
We're going to put you on hold.
Speaker 6 (23:01):
Somebody called me the other day and told me about,
I guess, the wildfires that they say are still going on.
I guess that they've been playing the same commercials and
they're saying that the weather's never right.
Speaker 1 (23:12):
Well, that's a production issue.
Speaker 2 (23:13):
Yeah, because somebody tweeted me one day and was like,
it is not, whatever degrees I said it was, it
was like, it is not that degrees. Can they update it?
Speaker 1 (23:21):
I was like, yeah. Listen, that's the producers and the programmers.
Nobody cares about micromanaging radio stations anymore. They just don't
give a damn. Well, get it off your chest.
Speaker 3 (23:29):
800-585-1051.
Speaker 1 (23:29):
D's on line two, by the way, guys. D's what?
Dee Dee, that's the lady that just called that you
just spoke to. Oh, see, you could hit me with
a good Dee's nuts in your mouth joke just now
because I wasn't even thinking about it. You sure he
wasn't drinking that? I did not drink nothing that was
on water, boy.
Speaker 2 (23:44):
He's naturally thinking about those in his mouth. That was
on water?
Speaker 1 (23:48):
Yeah, that was on water. No, nothing. See, it's hard
for me to sleep on Sunday nights anyway for whatever
reason it's been hard for me to sleep on Sunday
nights for years. So I didn't have a problem being
out last night. You know what I'm saying? What time
we left last night?
Speaker 2 (23:59):
Like 12?
Speaker 1 (23:59):
12 something, yeah. I got home like 1 something. Yeah,
because it was like 145 when I was laying in
the bed. Well, the latest with Lauren's up next. What
are we talking about?
Speaker 4 (24:07):
Yeah, we're going to get into our night last night.
Speaker 2 (24:08):
And we got a big announcement that Envy's going to
help me do.
Speaker 1 (24:12):
I'm not going to help you. Big announcement.
Speaker 4 (24:14):
We'll talk about it in the latest.
Speaker 1 (24:15):
Is this really how you want to reveal your pregnancy? Wow.
Speaker 4 (24:17):
Stop playing with me.
Speaker 1 (24:18):
Wow, congrats. No, I had a bunch. Who's the father?
Speaker 4 (24:20):
I drank last night. First of all, don't ever.
Speaker 1 (24:23):
Damn, that was crazy. Yes. Don't play crazy.
Speaker 2 (24:26):
Yes, you would.
Speaker 1 (24:27):
Yes, you would. Yes, you would.
Speaker 4 (24:29):
In real life, you would.
Speaker 1 (24:30):
Yes, 100% would.
Speaker 4 (24:32):
No, I'm not pregnant. We have another announcement. It involves
the Knicks.
Speaker 2 (24:35):
We'll talk about it.
Speaker 1 (24:36):
We'll get to it next. Y'all are pissing me off.
That was wild. I don't know why he would do
that to you. What, what, what, what, what you want
to know? The latest with Lauren LaRosa. Because you particularly
are bringing the energy to mainstream radio, the black radio.
That source is trusted. Did you hear that exclusive?
Speaker 2 (24:49):
Lauren, I'm the homegirl that knows a little bit about
everything and everything.
Speaker 1 (24:54):
She be having the latest on things.
Speaker 9 (24:55):
You ask the questions that need to be answered.
Speaker 1 (24:57):
On The Breakfast Club.
Speaker 4 (24:58):
If little brown girls look at you and go, I
want to be like you.
Speaker 1 (25:01):
LL Cool B, talk to me.
Speaker 4 (25:04):
So last night, well, first of all, good morning again.
Speaker 1 (25:06):
Good morning.
Speaker 5 (25:07):
Yes.
Speaker 1 (25:07):
Good morning, LL Cool Bay, Lauren LaRosa. Oh, Lord.
Speaker 2 (25:10):
So last night, if y'all wondering why Charlamagne is sitting
in here with these glasses on, if you can't hear him,
you will hear Unc still whatever he was on a
high from last night because you didn't drink.
Speaker 1 (25:20):
It's just dopamine. It's all dopamine. No alcohol, no drugs,
no edibles. This is just all dopamine. That's all.
Speaker 4 (25:25):
So we were out last night.
Speaker 2 (25:27):
We went to Jay-Z's Jay-Z in 8 documentary premiere here,
world premiere here in New York City. Now this went
down it first of all it was just beautiful from
start to finish like it went down at the Metropolitan
Opera House here in New York and you walk in
Not even inside as soon as you walked in the
outside like area, right? It was set up and there
(25:49):
was like a live orchestra playing all of Jay-z's music.
It was everybody in suits like it was Yes, they
had a lot you see you was once we.
Speaker 4 (25:57):
Got in there, you know Charlamagne He say hi to everybody.
You can't go nowhere with Charlamagne.
Speaker 2 (26:00):
Mm-hmm Once you got to the red carpet part, yes,
you walked in, there was a orchestra in the middle
that was set up.
Speaker 4 (26:04):
We also came in toward the end of it.
Speaker 2 (26:05):
It was kind of breaking down and we were heading
inside at the same time too. But yeah, so black suits,
everybody dressed to the nine, bars set up everywhere. Like
people walking around with the Ace of Spades from the
beginning of the event, Envy.
Speaker 1 (26:18):
Right.
Speaker 4 (26:18):
So we finally are on our on our way in.
Speaker 1 (26:21):
How about the bathroom line be so long at Roc
Nation events, by the way?
Speaker 4 (26:24):
I did have to wait in the bathroom line twice.
Speaker 1 (26:26):
Really? Yes. I mean, yes.
Speaker 4 (26:28):
Well, I didn't do that bad last night.
Speaker 6 (26:30):
I didn't do that bad for you is bad for anybody. OK, well,
I was monitoring her as well.
Speaker 2 (26:36):
He was on my way in. I'm walking in and
I turned to I didn't even get the fully turn.
Speaker 4 (26:43):
Jay-Z is right there. He's like, I don't know if
we've ever met.
Speaker 1 (26:46):
I'm Jay.
Speaker 4 (26:47):
I was like, I want to say, yeah, you are.
Speaker 1 (26:49):
That's exactly what she did too.
Speaker 5 (26:52):
Thank God.
Speaker 2 (26:53):
Angela Rye was standing next to me and she was like,
she made a joke of it. She was like, yeah,
she didn't know. She had no idea.
Speaker 4 (26:58):
Cause I was like, I can't believe he just, cause
I was going to go.
Speaker 1 (27:00):
Hey, I'm Lauren. And he goes, Hey, I'm Jay.
Speaker 2 (27:02):
Like, yes, you are like him. And I met Beyonce
as well last night too. At the after event that
we went to some of the nicest people ever.
Speaker 1 (27:10):
Ever, ever.
Speaker 2 (27:10):
But yeah, it was it was a great event. So
we got inside of the theater and we sat down
and watched the I don't even know if it was
like a full episode, but it was it was a
good enough portion of some of the documentary that Jay-Z
has coming on September 18th with Rick Rubin.
Speaker 1 (27:26):
So what's the documentary about? That's the only thing I'm
unclear about. Was that a full episode and we watched
one episode?
Speaker 4 (27:32):
Or was it pieced together?
Speaker 1 (27:33):
Or was it pieced together? I don't know.
Speaker 2 (27:34):
I can't answer that question right now. And I should
have asked last night, but I think I was just
so in the moment. But I'll be able to answer
it shortly. So the documentary is about Jay-Z's music and career.
You know, he's celebrating 30 years, Reasonable Doubt. But this
documentary is eight total episodes. The first two are going
to drop on September 18th in New York. they use
his songs to break down his journey. Not even just
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like as an artist, but like from when he was
nine years old up until coming into, you know, like
a man and a father and a husband.
Speaker 4 (28:03):
And they literally really break down the music.
Speaker 2 (28:04):
Like you're watching the words on screen and, Him reacting
to it in real time.
Speaker 4 (28:09):
Some of the songs he hadn't heard since he put out. So, like,
you see the raw emotion.
Speaker 1 (28:13):
Wow. Well, 444, he said he hardly ever listens to.
By the way, that was just even uncomfortable to watch
in the room.
Speaker 2 (28:18):
Beyonce and Jay-Z sitting right behind.
Speaker 4 (28:20):
You as it's happening.
Speaker 1 (28:21):
You know, Envy, that's the song where he apologized. Don't
say you know. Don't throw that on me. I don't
want to know. We know. Don't act like we don't.
I'm not going back there. Neither am I. I'm just
saying we know how that feels to be in there. So,
I'm just thinking, like, I could never watch this in
front of people. This is something I might do. Like,
you know, you'll write about it in a book, but
then people will read about it on their own. But
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to watch that in front of people.
Speaker 2 (28:44):
The song Charlamagne is talking about, guys, is the song
where Jay-Z is talking about, you know, when Blue Ivy
and their children grow up and he has to explain,
you know, some of the different things that have went
down in their relationship and how that's going to impact
him and their family as a man and just those conversations.
Speaker 4 (28:59):
But yeah, it was.
Speaker 2 (29:01):
Great night.
Speaker 4 (29:02):
Thanks for the invite, Char.
Speaker 1 (29:03):
Listen, I will never, ever downplay the inspiration that Jay-Z
has provided in my life. I will never downplay the
inspiration that Jay-Z has provided a whole generation. Okay? And
this generation calls it glazing. I call it celebrating excellence.
And we should all hope that we do something or
have some type of career that can be celebrated in
30 years. Because we're celebrating 30 years of Reasonable Doubt,
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25 years of The Blueprint. those things deserve to be celebrated.
Speaker 3 (29:30):
Yes. Yep.
Speaker 2 (29:31):
And I have some audio or some video of Jay-Z
on the Brown Girl Grinding Instagram. Make sure you guys
go check that out. He actually welcomed us when we
sat down in the theater. But before we get out,
of here, I do want to make an announcement. Speaking
of New York, the Knicks City Kids Dancers, now these
are the official youth dance team for the New York Knicks.
Speaker 4 (29:48):
They perform with the team.
Speaker 2 (29:50):
Envy's daughters, two of Envy's daughters, yes, both of his
daughters made the team. Now, this is really, really competitive
to do. Over a thousand kids tried out. They picked
about 26 kids. Envy, I know your daughter's been dancing for,
both of them have been dancing for about two years.
Speaker 6 (30:05):
Yeah, a very short amount of time, two and about
two and a half years. And out of all those
kids that tried out, both of them made the team.
Speaker 10 (30:11):
Yes.
Speaker 6 (30:11):
So that's why I said we were celebrating all week long.
You dropped a bomb for them one time.
Speaker 1 (30:15):
Congratulations. Which is... Amazing.
Speaker 6 (30:17):
So they will be at the home games dancing. So
I will probably be at every Knicks game now. If
I have to buy a ticket or not, I will
be there watching my babies dance. So I am super
duper excited. I am so proud of them.
Speaker 1 (30:30):
Big year.
Speaker 4 (30:31):
Big year for them to be a part of that team.
Speaker 1 (30:34):
You know what it is? It's the work. It's the effort.
Speaker 6 (30:36):
It's the fact that they practice when nobody tells them to.
It's the fact that they push themselves to be better.
It's the fact that they're always online watching other dancers dance.
And the fact that dad is there and got a
chance to see that this week it was their first rehearsal.
Speaker 1 (30:51):
So I got to see them dance with the other kids.
It's just dope, man. Is that translating to dollars now?
Speaker 12 (30:55):
Yes.
Speaker 1 (30:55):
It's a big gig. It's a big gig. So they
get paid for rehearsals.
Speaker 6 (31:01):
They get paid for actually dancing on when they dance
in the garden.
Speaker 1 (31:05):
They get money for it. So this is their first job.
Speaker 8 (31:07):
Right.
Speaker 1 (31:07):
So they're super duper excited.
Speaker 2 (31:09):
This is a crazy first job.
Speaker 1 (31:11):
Yes.
Speaker 2 (31:11):
I didn't even think about.
Speaker 4 (31:12):
It like that.
Speaker 1 (31:12):
Yes. My daughter was a cheer. I'm a cheer dad.
Ain't no money in check. All we do is spin, spin, spin.
How old is she? One is 10, one is 13. Wow.
And they're already making money off dance.
Speaker 2 (31:24):
Congratulations, Envy.
Speaker 4 (31:25):
You gear in the family. That is a major accomplishment.
Speaker 6 (31:28):
I know they're listening this morning, probably on their way
to school. I love you guys.
Speaker 1 (31:31):
Congratulations.
Speaker 6 (31:32):
I'm so proud, man. It brought tears to my face
just watching them. Because they just started.
Speaker 1 (31:36):
Two years ago.
Speaker 2 (31:37):
You always cry every time they dance. Every time I've
seen them dance and I've watched.
Speaker 4 (31:40):
Them, you cry.
Speaker 1 (31:41):
Your father, man. Proud father.
Speaker 7 (31:43):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (31:43):
But it was a beautiful celebration of the things over
the weekend, I'm sure.
Speaker 1 (31:46):
It was a lot. It was great.
Speaker 3 (31:48):
Yes.
Speaker 6 (31:48):
Again, congratulations and salute to the New York Knicks and
the New York Knicks City kids and the dancers.
Speaker 1 (31:53):
We appreciate you guys and I'm happy.
Speaker 3 (31:55):
All right.
Speaker 6 (31:56):
Now, when we come back, we got front page news.
Mimi will be joining us and then Dr. Jess will
be joining us.
Speaker 1 (32:02):
You know Dr.
Speaker 8 (32:03):
Jess.
Speaker 1 (32:03):
She's been up here many times. Ask Jess. We're going
to talk to him in a little bit. It's The
Breakfast Club.
Speaker 14 (32:07):
Good morning.
Speaker 1 (32:07):
Good morning, everybody.
Speaker 6 (32:08):
It's DJ Envy, Jess Hilarious, Charlamagne Tha Guy.
Speaker 1 (32:11):
We are The Breakfast Club.
Speaker 6 (32:12):
Let's get in some front page news. Now let's start
off with some quick sports. Last night, the Lions beat
the Saints. The Ravens beat the Colts. Jets beat the Titans.
Steelers beat the Falcons. The Vikings beat the Packers. Cardinals
beat the Chargers. Eagles beat the Commanders. Raiders beat the Dolphins.
Bears beat the Panthers. Bills beat the Texans. The Jaguars
beat the Browns. The Bengals beat the Buccaneers.
Speaker 1 (32:32):
And the Giants... The New York Giants beat the Cowboys 28-20.
You're putting a lot on this for no reason. But
you mean you're going to the Super Bowl. Yes, we're
going to the Super Bowl. No, you're not. We're 0-1.
You're 1-0.
Speaker 6 (32:47):
Yes, we're undefeated right now. The Giants are undefeated. Nobody
beat us. We are undefeated.
Speaker 2 (32:53):
Y'all just got here.
Speaker 1 (32:54):
So what? You're putting too much sauce on this for
no reason. No, I'm not.
Speaker 6 (32:58):
And tonight, the Broncos take on Kansas City Chiefs on ESPN.
Speaker 1 (33:03):
Hello, Mimi.
Speaker 9 (33:05):
Hilarious envy. Undefeated. All right, y'all.
Speaker 10 (33:08):
Front Page News is sponsored by Morgan & Morgan, America's
largest law firm. So let's get into this Tasia Fortune story.
Speaker 9 (33:17):
Have you guys heard about this arrest?
Speaker 5 (33:19):
No, I haven't.
Speaker 10 (33:21):
Yeah, so there was an arrest made in the death
of Tasia Fortune. She was a 29-year-old black woman who
was found hanging from the tree in Mississippi. We talked
about this. Probably a couple of weeks ago, her body
was found on August 3rd. For weeks, there were questions
about exactly what happened, how she died. And now Mississippi
State Medical Examiner, they have officially ruled her death a homicide.
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Police have arrested a suspect and charged him with murder.
Jackson Police, they announced the arrest. Let's listen to that
press conference.
Speaker 7 (33:52):
We secured two search warrants and an arrest warrant for
Jacques Ratliff, also known as Jacques.
Speaker 3 (33:58):
Mr.
Speaker 4 (33:59):
Ratliff was not at the location when officers arrived.
Speaker 7 (34:02):
However, as our staff and team were returning to JPD headquarters,
they encountered Mr.
Speaker 2 (34:07):
Ratliff walking along Capitol Street.
Speaker 7 (34:10):
Officers took him into custody without any incident. That arrest
today is an important development in this investigation, but it
is not the conclusion. This case remains active. An additional
arrest will be pending as our investigators continue to follow
the evidence wherever it leads.
Speaker 1 (34:28):
That's horrible, man. And it's sad that we keep hearing
so much about these lynchings that are happening. It's like
you don't even know the names because you just hear
every day. Every other day, it's like, oh, another person
got found. Another person got found. I forgot all about it.
I don't think I heard about the Tasia Fortune case.
If I did, I don't remember the name. When did
this happen?
Speaker 9 (34:49):
This happened on August 3rd.
Speaker 10 (34:50):
We talked about it here, but at the time, she
was found behind an abandoned building and people were just
trying to figure out what happened. There was also some
speculation of of who could have caused it. And so
now the police are saying that it was Jacques Radcliffe.
But a lot of people online, they're not buying this
as the full story because they're questioning whether this one
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man who looks older was able to do such a thing.
Because I don't know if you guys remember when we
spoke about it, we said that she was so high up,
they had to have a fire truck ladder bring her down.
And so they're questioning, you know, How one person was
able to do that. Now, the police chief just said
in that soundbite, though, that they are looking for other suspects.
There will be more arrests coming forth. So we'll just
(35:36):
follow this to see what what will continue to happen.
But they have not explained how they believe her body
was placed in that tree. And so a lot of
people online are speculating, you know, he couldn't have done
that alone.
Speaker 9 (35:48):
Scary. We will continue to follow that.
Speaker 10 (35:51):
And now to a new twist in the Lindsay Clancy
case and the growing backlash over the lone holdout juror
and how he is being treated. So remember the jury
was 11 to 1. 11 jurors were prepared to find
Clancy not criminally responsible for killing her three children. One
juror disagreed, forcing a mistrial. But now we're learning something
that we didn't know about that holdout juror, that he
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was a black man in his 30s, the only black
juror on the panel. Now, that came out during an
interview with CBS this morning. And Gayle King, she was
the one who actually broke this news.
Speaker 9 (36:26):
Let's listen to the reaction that she had.
Speaker 15 (36:27):
One person of color was a person of color, a
woman or a man?
Speaker 1 (36:31):
A man. A man.
Speaker 2 (36:32):
Is a holdout juror a person of color?
Speaker 1 (36:35):
A black man?
Speaker 5 (36:36):
Yes.
Speaker 13 (36:37):
A black man is a holdout juror?
Speaker 5 (36:39):
Yes.
Speaker 1 (36:40):
Well, I have to sit with that for.
Speaker 13 (36:42):
Just a second.
Speaker 1 (36:43):
Lord knows I love me some Gayle King, but I
just need her to explain that reaction. I don't understand
why she reacted like that. What did him being a
black man and holding out have to do with anything?
I'm shocked that it wasn't more jurors who didn't feel
like how he felt.
Speaker 10 (36:59):
Yeah, well, when you look at the look at the
makeup of the jury, I think her first question was
what the jury makeup look like. And to find out
that he was there was only one person of color
and it was a black man who was the holdout.
Speaker 9 (37:11):
I think she was kind of just sitting in that
for a second.
Speaker 10 (37:14):
But I think the bigger story this morning is NBC
in Boston.
Speaker 9 (37:18):
They started digging.
Speaker 10 (37:19):
Into the jurors personal life, reporting his past domestic violence allegations,
bringing order an eviction case that he had.
Speaker 9 (37:26):
The station, they did not release his name. We still
don't know his name. His name is not public.
Speaker 10 (37:30):
But critics are pointing out that jurors are supposed to
have a privacy and a protection when they serve.
Speaker 1 (37:35):
Absolutely.
Speaker 3 (37:36):
Yeah.
Speaker 10 (37:37):
So them digging into his personal life and all that
being investigated, they're wondering whether the 11 other jurors would
be facing this kind of scrutiny if it was the
other way. So now that we find out that he's
a black man, are we doing a little bit extra
digging because he was the lone holdout who didn't go
the other way, which the 11 other jurors went?
Speaker 1 (37:57):
And he can't sue because they didn't put his name
out there, right? A lot of conversation about that. They
didn't put his identity out there, so he can't sue.
Speaker 3 (38:04):
No.
Speaker 9 (38:05):
They didn't put his identity out there, but they put
all his business out there.
Speaker 3 (38:07):
That's crazy.
Speaker 10 (38:08):
I mean, from arrest warrants to interviewing family members, everything.
Speaker 6 (38:13):
Oh, interviewing family members. Then, yeah, then they clearly know
who he is then, which is sad.
Speaker 9 (38:17):
Yeah, they know who he is.
Speaker 10 (38:19):
They just haven't said the name out loud.
Speaker 1 (38:21):
They vilifying him more than they vilifying Lindsey Clancy. That's right.
Speaker 9 (38:25):
That is.
Speaker 10 (38:26):
exactly what they're saying um all right y'all well it
looks like that is the end of front page news
we are running out of time but injured know your
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the people.com well.
Speaker 1 (38:40):
We got the law firm battles going down versus top
dog law that's right okay who will come out the
victor we will see thank you but listen I want
to keep this conversation going. That's why we have Dr.
Jessica Clemons coming in.
Speaker 3 (38:57):
Dr.
Speaker 1 (38:57):
Jessica Clemons is a board-certified psychiatrist, and this is what
she does. The conversation is about postpartum psychosis and your
mental health surrounding pregnancy. she is the person to talk
to so we're going to keep this conversation going when
she comes back great conversation we'll do when we come
back so don't move it's the breakfast club good morning
morning everybody it's dj envy just hilarious charlamagne the guy
(39:19):
we are the breakfast club laura rose is here as
well we got a special guest in.
Speaker 6 (39:22):
The building yes indeed she's back ladies and gentlemen dr
jess welcome.
Speaker 1 (39:25):
Back feels good to be here very important to say
dr jessica clemons is a board certified psychiatrist okay all
right graduated cornell university medical college completed your residency training
at nyu yes at nyu okay very important to say
that why Just want people to know that she really
got her certification. That's just been up here before. I know,
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but you know. Okay. Reiterate to the people.
Speaker 3 (39:51):
All right.
Speaker 1 (39:51):
Well, how are you feeling? She's a real doctor.
Speaker 15 (39:53):
I'm feeling great. I'm glad you did that for me
because I was going to try to find a way
to bring that in.
Speaker 1 (39:58):
Oh my God.
Speaker 2 (39:59):
Do y'all have to do that now? On platform?
Speaker 1 (40:02):
I really.
Speaker 15 (40:03):
Before the controversy online, when people were talking about whether,
you know, someone is a doctor or not.
Speaker 8 (40:09):
Yeah.
Speaker 15 (40:10):
I wouldn't think it's a thing, but now I do
think it's important. People really need to know that the
information they're getting from so-called doctors, you know, it's trusted.
Speaker 3 (40:20):
It's vetted.
Speaker 15 (40:20):
So yeah, I feel like it's something that we do
have to say.
Speaker 3 (40:23):
Absolutely.
Speaker 15 (40:24):
And the last thing is medical doctors. It's, it's easy
to look up whether or not we're truly who we
say we are. All you have to do is just
take her name. and the state we're licensed, and you
can see if the license is active or not. It
doesn't take much to show your degrees and things like that.
They're always on the wall behind me.
Speaker 3 (40:41):
Okay. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (40:42):
And I'm glad you're here because you're also a reproductive psychiatrist.
So you treat women with postpartum, and we've been having
a lot of conversations about postpartum, especially because of the
Lindsay Clancy situation. And I think it's very important because
we spend nine months talking about women being pregnant, but
never talk about what happens to the mother psychologically after pregnancy.
Speaker 15 (41:01):
Absolutely. Yeah, this is a newer area in psychiatry. Mass
General is really leading in a lot of the research. Yeah,
we don't talk about the hormonal effects, whether it's pregnancy,
delivery or even before. Like I take care of a
lot of women who talk about, wow, every couple of
weeks out of the month before my period starts, I'm
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just anxious or depressed. But we talk about that and
we talk about treatment options that might include therapy or
lifestyle modification. but also medication. But when I'm thinking about
like postpartum, especially to your point with the case that
we've all kind of watched, I kept a little distance
from some of the details there. But yeah, we're talking
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people are coming in depressed. It affects their ability to
bond with the baby, which then also has effects on
the infant child, right? If they're not properly bonding with
their parent, the mother, that has some downstream effects. But
there could absolutely be a role for medication for some women.
It also could be a role for more support, making
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sure that you have someone there to cover the night shift.
I know personally, that was just one of the hardest
times after having a baby to be up all night
and just thinking about what that does to mood and irritability.
So it's an area of medicine that's starting to really
take the front center now.
Speaker 6 (42:22):
Well, let me just break down the Lindsay Clancy case
for somebody that doesn't know. She's a 36-year-old former labor
and delivery nurse. She strangled her three children ages five,
three and eight months before attempting suicide by jumping out
of a second story window. She was not prosecuted on
September 24th, 2026. It was a mistrial. The judge declared
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a mistrial after seven days of deliberation. And this has
been a big conversation of postpartum and all that. I
wanted to ask when I seen your name on the
sheet early this week, well, last night.
Speaker 1 (42:55):
I called Charlamagne. I'm like, is that Dr.
Speaker 3 (42:56):
Jess?
Speaker 5 (42:56):
Dr.
Speaker 3 (42:57):
Jess?
Speaker 1 (42:57):
Because usually we don't see Dr. Jessica Clemens, right? We
just see Dr. Jess is coming. And he was like, yeah.
I was like, well, where has she been?
Speaker 6 (43:02):
We haven't seen her in a long time. And she
was like, well, she dealt with postpartum. And I was like, wow.
I was like, well, break down what it is.
Speaker 1 (43:11):
I've had six kids. You know, I have six kids.
And thank God my wife didn't deal with it.
Speaker 11 (43:15):
So.
Speaker 6 (43:16):
What makes somebody deal with having a child, like Charlamagne said,
so excited, nine months, you're excited to have this baby,
a baby that you created and you build a nursery
and you build a crib and the family's giving you
gifts and you can't wait and you're picking outfits that
look like your outfits and you get so excited. And
then you hear a lot of women say when the
baby came. They didn't like the baby.
Speaker 1 (43:36):
They didn't want him. They didn't want the child next
to them. Some women would say hate the baby. How
do you get to that? That's what Mimi said this morning.
Our front page news person said she hated her son
at first. Oh, wow.
Speaker 5 (43:46):
Wow.
Speaker 1 (43:47):
So how do you get there?
Speaker 3 (43:48):
Yeah.
Speaker 15 (43:49):
So for me, just to make sure people are okay
with part of what I've been focusing on, I mean,
answer the question, is really building my private practice and
trying to shift away from social media as a primary focus. public,
you know, space that I engage in, but how we
get there. So during pregnancy, there's like big shifts in hormones,
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you know, estrogen is high and that's why the hair
is like herring and the skin is all full. Um,
and just, you know, just really people just look great
when estrogen levels are high, but after delivery that starts
to tail off pretty rapidly. And so for some people
who are more sensitive, that's the language we kind of
use in medicine, meaning One woman may tolerate that estrogen
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drop off and another woman may not. The one who's
more sensitive, the one who doesn't, may begin to have
signs of like postpartum blues. In fact, 50 to 85%
of women will experience that. That's not like depression where
you're down, you really don't want to get out of bed,
you're feeling hopeless, maybe even suicidal. It's more of like irritability.
(44:54):
There might be some anxiety. You might be just a
little like frustrated, unable to connect. maybe some feelings towards
the baby, not at all like postpartum psychosis, which I'll
go into, but that usually gets better once mom is,
you know, properly, she's got the nutrition back, she feels supported,
she's focusing on rest. A lot of what I advise
women who come in after delivering is like, you got
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to sleep.
Speaker 2 (45:18):
Even if you have to.
Speaker 15 (45:18):
Stop pumping or prioritizing trying to breastfeed, like let's move
on if it's not working for you. But again, part
of what happens is the change in estrogen levels affects
some women significantly. And then the work. I mean, it's
hard taking care of a newborn, especially when it's the first.
You have no idea. You're like, to your point, you're
getting ready. You're creating the moment. You're getting the room ready.
Then the baby arrives, and now this baby has to
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be fed 24-7. The only communication is through tears. I mean,
it's stressful. And then if a lot of women do
feel pressure to breastfeed, to pump, that is around the clock, too.
You can't just stop because you need to sleep. If
you don't, you'll stop producing milk. So I think for
some women, if they end up not being properly supported,
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that first couple of days when postpartum blues can show up,
that can sort of start to set the stage for
postpartum depression, anxiety. I support a lot of women who
talk about how overwhelmed they feel. You know, they're worrying
about this. Do I have enough for that? So it
starts to play into how they feel about themselves and
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how they feel about their performance. And then even the children,
there can be resentment that builds.
Speaker 1 (46:27):
Like what separates like the normal baby blues from the
postpartum depression and the psychosis and the OCD? Like, like,
like help us understand the spectrum.
Speaker 9 (46:36):
Yes.
Speaker 15 (46:36):
Great question. So we, we look at this as like
a continuum.
Speaker 1 (46:39):
Okay.
Speaker 15 (46:39):
Some women, um, before they became pregnant, uh, may have
had a history of depression and anxiety already, but postpartum, uh,
this continuum of blues, depression, and psychosis can happen in any,
any woman, um, Again, part of it is this like
hormonal shift that some people are more sensitive to. But
blue shows up about two to four days into post
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delivery and it levels off and you're not depressed to
the point where your mood is consistently down. You're sad. Literally,
you can say, I feel depressed. You're not dealing with
a lot of sleep issues. You're not sleeping great. You're
caring for a baby. You can fall asleep. If somebody
takes that baby, you're out.
Speaker 11 (47:18):
Right.
Speaker 15 (47:19):
You can fall asleep. Postpartum depression would have the opposite.
You're having trouble falling asleep. Your appetite's low, stuck to
your mattress. You're having a lot of thoughts of guilt.
You're not enjoying things. You're hopeless. And some women will
develop suicidal thoughts. That occurs maybe in the first couple
of weeks. Two to four weeks is when we look
for that. But this isn't the one that we're worried
about the safety of the baby. Postpartum psychosis is rare.
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It happens in about one to two deliveries out of
a thousand births.
Speaker 1 (47:46):
So it's rare.
Speaker 15 (47:47):
Most women are not going to experience postpartum psychosis. But
this is the one that was, I guess, kind of
at the forefront of this case, which, you know, I
don't really know if that's what it was. Eight months
is not really the window. Postpartum psychosis we're seeing in
the first couple of weeks, but really at four weeks,
we're not really expecting that to be there if it occurred.
And it is a emergency, right? So the person will
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look disorganized. They might have mood fluctuations. So they're really elevated.
They might be up all night, you know, talking and very,
just have all this energy, or they might look depressed.
They might be disorganized and like, what are you doing?
You're putting the remote in the, you know, fridge. It just,
something seems odd. But what, one of the hallmarks that's
scary is if they start to communicate that they're hearing
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things or they start to believe that something's going on
with you, with the baby, they don't really want anyone
with them. This can, can put the infant and family
at risk of infant side or, you know, So it's
an emergency in New York. There are so many resources.
There's a mother and baby unit, I think, at Mount Sinai.
So it's not unusual if someone does present with this
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for them to get admitted. You'd have to be admitted,
treated with the antipsychotics, but they'll keep the baby in
the hospital with you. But you're not the primary when
caretaking because the risk is that if they're alone, maybe
these command auditory hallucinations might, you know, tip them into
acting on it. But again, very rare. It's an emergency.
Depression is probably a bit more common. Blues is incredibly common,
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but that resolves.
Speaker 6 (49:19):
With what are your thoughts on paternity leave, right? Because
when I first heard about paternity leave, I laughed so loud.
I was like, what the hell does a man need
to take off, right? But now hearing what you're saying,
I guess it would be needed. For support.
Speaker 15 (49:34):
Absolutely. I don't want to leave the men out.
Speaker 1 (49:37):
I didn't take paternity leave.
Speaker 8 (49:40):
No.
Speaker 2 (49:41):
But I think things have developed since y'all have had
your children. But like when you said you don't want
to leave the men out, you mean that in their
mental space as well? Or just the fact that... So
talk a bit about that because I don't ever hear
people talk about the men, like their side of it
as well too.
Speaker 3 (49:54):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (49:55):
So.
Speaker 15 (49:57):
The first point, yes, support is really why I think
men should absolutely advocate for it. You don't want your partner,
your spouse, whatever the situation is, at home alone with
all of the burden of care. But I think we
also don't really talk about the changes that happen to men.
This isn't like a hormonal conversation, but more or less
just the big role that people are stepping into, right?
(50:19):
So if it was just the two of you, that's
a very different lifestyle, very different dynamic situation. Now you
might have someone who's like, actually, I really do need
you to take the baby when you come home. I
don't need you to do your process to decompress. So
that can also take a toll on people. Stress is
one of the most notorious experience that people don't recognize,
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but contributes to things like anxiety. which also can have
irritability in there. You know, anxiety isn't just this like cute, oh,
I'm so worried, but people can be really edgy, snappy, right?
It also can bring up feelings of depression, whether it's
like depressive episode or just the low mood that comes with,
maybe you're not connecting with your, you know, your partner anymore.
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Maybe it's demanding on you too. You worked all day,
you want to come home and decompress, but now you
have this baby that you have to take care of.
Speaker 1 (51:07):
Come to the door, your wife's like this, but you understand.
Speaker 15 (51:10):
But it still affects you, right? So, Paternity leave is important.
I wish in the U.S. it was longer. I think, what,
it's like six weeks maybe. Not long enough. That's still
like a newborn. That baby is so tiny and developing.
So I think if a man is on the fence
about it, you just need to take it. Take the time.
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Bond with the family. Be supportive. Figure out the new role, right,
so that it's not really just one person taking the
lead on all the caretaking. Because that does affect the relationship.
And not pressuring also for sex. That's just something I
want to throw in there.
Speaker 1 (51:45):
I'll just say that again. Expound on that.
Speaker 2 (51:47):
Yeah, go ahead.
Speaker 6 (51:48):
That seems like that's been a... Since you said it
like that, it seems like that's been a problem and
an issue with a lot of couples.
Speaker 2 (51:51):
Because you're supposed to do six weeks after, right?
Speaker 15 (51:53):
People need a weight, right? Yeah, so the body can heal.
But also just realizing that this woman, her body doesn't
really even belong to her anymore.
Speaker 5 (52:01):
Mm-hmm. Right?
Speaker 15 (52:02):
You've heard about being touched out when moms are talking
about like, okay, the kids are all on me. I
don't want anybody else to touch me.
Speaker 2 (52:09):
Oh, like when mom needs to take like an hour,
maybe an hour in the car before she walking out
the driveway or she hiding in the closet because she
just needs, she tired.
Speaker 1 (52:16):
Don't touch me.
Speaker 2 (52:17):
I know of that, but I didn't know it was
called touched out.
Speaker 9 (52:19):
Touched out.
Speaker 15 (52:19):
Like, you know, if you're nursing and you got a
toddler with you and everybody's just grabbing for mom.
Speaker 10 (52:25):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (52:25):
Right.
Speaker 15 (52:25):
At some point it's just like, get off me.
Speaker 2 (52:29):
Right.
Speaker 5 (52:29):
Right.
Speaker 15 (52:29):
So I was kind of being a little tongue-in-cheek here
where I was saying men also need to give their
women time to not make sex something that you start
to also put the pressure on because she's adjusting to
her body and the hormones. And if she's lactating, you know,
let her get her time to heal, but also for
you two to figure out the dynamic now that kids
are involved.
Speaker 2 (52:47):
We're talking about things a lot more now. You can
plan the nurses, the nannies, the sleep, all that, but
then you still get to some of the postpartum things.
Is that something that like, can be passed down like
your mom deals with this so then you dealt with
it so you've done everything to try to fight it
but like it still happens anyway is that a thing
as well.
Speaker 15 (53:05):
It can be yeah the unfortunate part is we don't
know what causes this experience in women it could be
genetic it definitely we feel pretty confident that it's the
hormonal shift that some people are more sensitive to but
i also think a lot about what what's modeled right
so what am i saying here um If you saw
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generation after generation, women take on more than their share
and now they're irritable after birth and more tearful. Is
this something that's really postpartum blues? Yes, we would diagnose
it as such. But is it that you saw women?
Overdo it, not accept support, not expect the men in
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their lives to step in and take care of the
things that they just are doing.
Speaker 1 (53:54):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (53:55):
OK.
Speaker 2 (53:55):
Yeah.
Speaker 15 (53:56):
So I often think like when we're talking genetics, how
much of it is really the family system like passing
on certain behaviors? But for now, we don't know. I
want people to know what to look out for.
Speaker 1 (54:09):
Can somebody experience postpartum psychosis and still have moments where
they look completely rational? Like they could be cooking dinner,
they're answering texts, taking care of the baby. That's what
they were saying in the Clancy case. They said that
she was functioning.
Speaker 2 (54:22):
That's how the movies make it seem like that too.
When they have these characters that have like kind of
like the Lindsay Clancy case.
Speaker 15 (54:29):
This is complicated. I'm privileged that I got to actually
see people who are ill. A lot of mental health
providers or psychiatric nurse practitioners, for example. There were people
who trained in psychiatry outside of great institutions like NYU. NYU,
by the way, is the VA hospital on First Avenue.
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Bellevue Hospital.
Speaker 1 (54:51):
Oh, wow.
Speaker 15 (54:52):
Okay, so we're seeing everything.
Speaker 1 (54:55):
Wow.
Speaker 15 (54:56):
Okay, and that's where I got to see some of this.
And then the hospital next.
Speaker 3 (54:59):
Door, Tish. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (55:00):
They'll use the psychiatric hospital. Yes. Yes.
Speaker 15 (55:03):
Notorious, right? If you don't really witness people who are
truly in that state, what we would call like psychosis,
you can pick up on things because you're making the
diagnosis based on what's the DSM, which is like our
psychiatric handbook, which is a collection of symptoms that if
they meet these, this collection or meet criteria, then we
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call it that. So I've even found when I'm you know,
working with someone who might be a therapist or a
nurse practitioner, that we don't see the symptoms the same way.
I don't like to, you know, fluff myself here, but
I'm also like, I really got to see it. Like
Bellevue has Rikers, like Island, there's a unit in that hospital.
So we're seeing people who are truly, truly ill.
Speaker 3 (55:46):
So no.
Speaker 15 (55:47):
Like people who have postpartum psychosis, from what I've witnessed,
they're bizarre. They are muttering to themselves. Part of when
someone is psychotic, if they have that experience, they're not
really taking good care of themselves. That's a disorganization. So
hygiene might be down. They may be even like styling
themselves kind of oddly.
Speaker 1 (56:08):
Why don't they take the baby away during those times?
Speaker 15 (56:10):
You do.
Speaker 2 (56:11):
You should.
Speaker 1 (56:12):
Not family members. I'm talking about.
Speaker 3 (56:14):
Yes.
Speaker 1 (56:15):
Doctors. Like, the baby needs to go until.
Speaker 2 (56:17):
She's... Well, the doctor has to know what's happening, too, though.
Speaker 15 (56:20):
Doctor has to know it. Also, the states. You know,
the state that you are in, their mental health hygiene
laws really set the stage for whether or not they
can involuntarily admit you. Like I said, New York is
is pretty strong on. I mean, we were admitting people
coming in with schizophrenia because they weren't taking care of themselves.
And that helps the community. But also we get them
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treated and then we move them down and sort of
the level of care to ideally not continue to live
on the streets with like severe mental illness. But if
you're in like Texas, you know, I don't know their laws.
It might be a little bit harder for the psychiatrist
to actually have the authority to involuntarily admit you. They
may not have enough units. So this is also a
bit of like an advocacy issue, too.
Speaker 5 (57:02):
Right.
Speaker 15 (57:02):
In New York, I mean, you're getting admitted without a doubt.
You're getting admitted. That baby is going to have to
be with family until we treat you because it's a risk.
You could you could kill that. You could kill your
baby in other states again. I don't know what they
have going on, but you'll find that it's state dependent.
Speaker 3 (57:22):
Gotcha.
Speaker 1 (57:23):
Yeah, it's interesting, right? Because even with that case and
everything you're saying, like they said she did ask for help.
Like they said she asked for help. She had a
lot of contact with mental health providers before, you know,
she did what she did to her kids. Did she
do it? Yeah, she did it, right? Yes, she did.
Speaker 15 (57:40):
I think she did it.
Speaker 1 (57:41):
What does that case teach us about the difference between
having access to care and actually receiving the right care?
Speaker 15 (57:47):
Great question. So this goes to quality, right? The quality
of care. So even when I'm like running my private practice,
that's a part of the language I communicate is that
I'm not just your doctor treating you. You're getting quality care,
which goes back to the training. Like, again, I picked
NYU because I knew I would see everything and that
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would make me more confident in my diagnostic skills and
then knowing how to treat. So this is also the
sort of unfortunate, ugly side of mental health treatment in
this country, which I think is evolving. I'm glad we're
talking about it. I'm glad you've been spearheading, making this
something that our community really focuses on. But it's just
going to depend on what you get, right? You might
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sit across from someone who, where they train, they never
saw someone come in with schizophrenia. So they're really relying
on the handbook, right? They may have never seen a
woman come in with postpartum psychosis. When you see it,
you know it. They may have never seen someone come
in with bipolar disorder. So it's harder to call it.
They also might not feel comfortable to take away your
rights or to say, like, we're going to hospitalize you.
(58:50):
So the difference, unfortunately, is where people train, their comfort
level in the medication. You know, if you've got a
lot of medication going on, that's usually not ideal. From
my perspective, that's kind of a red flag. Like, what
are we targeting?
Speaker 1 (59:04):
Right.
Speaker 15 (59:05):
Patients shouldn't be on multiple medications. They should have closer
follow up. So there's not really a standardized way of
treatment because also in the U.S. I don't want to
sound like I'm bashing nurse practitioners. I know they're going
to be my comments later, but the training is just
so limited.
Speaker 5 (59:23):
Right.
Speaker 15 (59:24):
And I've worked with people. I'm like, why would you
prescribe that for this? And it just it just tells
me that they don't have enough experience and you get
to you get to kind of do your thing.
Speaker 1 (59:34):
My last question, what do you wish the Lindsay Clancy
story had taught America before it became this courtroom story?
Speaker 15 (59:43):
Well, again, I think keeping it really simple, I would
have hoped that it would have started more conversations around
properly supporting families. mothers, fathers, thinking about the role for community.
I think, again, it just should be more of the
discussion nationally about how we're going to properly make sure
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people have what they need. Doctors, I do need you
to make sure people are on the right medication and
push for them to get admitted. I push mine. Like, okay,
if you aren't getting better, let me tell you the hospital.
I'm going to send you to.
Speaker 1 (01:00:21):
Thank you, Dr.
Speaker 3 (01:00:21):
Jess.
Speaker 5 (01:00:22):
Dr.
Speaker 1 (01:00:22):
Jessica Clemens, man. I would tell him to follow you,
but you know.
Speaker 10 (01:00:26):
You can.
Speaker 15 (01:00:26):
I'm there.
Speaker 3 (01:00:27):
All right.
Speaker 1 (01:00:28):
I want to get back in it.
Speaker 3 (01:00:29):
Okay.
Speaker 1 (01:00:29):
Is it still Ask Dr.
Speaker 3 (01:00:31):
Jess?
Speaker 15 (01:00:31):
It's still Ask Dr.
Speaker 5 (01:00:32):
Jess.
Speaker 1 (01:00:32):
Well, we appreciate you for joining us.
Speaker 15 (01:00:34):
Thank you so much.
Speaker 1 (01:00:35):
And hopefully you'll join us more. You vanished for our life. Like,
you jumped in. Did you vanish?
Speaker 2 (01:00:41):
You intentionally took the time away.
Speaker 15 (01:00:44):
No, she vanished.
Speaker 1 (01:00:45):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (01:00:46):
But you said from us, like, it was just breakfast club.
Speaker 1 (01:00:47):
I've been trying to get her at the Mental Wealth
Expo for years. I'm like, yo, now I'm thinking, like,
this would be a great year for her just to
do the whole panel by herself.
Speaker 9 (01:00:55):
I'm down.
Speaker 3 (01:00:56):
Word?
Speaker 12 (01:00:56):
Yes.
Speaker 10 (01:00:57):
I'm down.
Speaker 15 (01:00:57):
I'm back out here. She said, I'm back out here.
My children are a bit older. They can tolerate being
away from mom.
Speaker 5 (01:01:04):
Mm-hmm.
Speaker 15 (01:01:05):
I got to shout them out. I know y'all are watching.
Y'all better be on your best behavior. But I want
to because I see this is needed.
Speaker 1 (01:01:12):
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 8 (01:01:12):
You know?
Speaker 15 (01:01:13):
And I have a lot of fun. You guys have
just been really good to me. I appreciate being here.
Speaker 1 (01:01:17):
Well, Dr. Jess, ladies and gentlemen, it's the Breakfast Club.
Good morning. Let's get to the latest with Laura. Talk
to me.
Speaker 2 (01:01:46):
All right, so we've been talking about legends this morning.
And speaking of legends, it is being reported or it
was announced that Judge Judy, a legend in her own right.
Speaker 1 (01:01:55):
Speaking of things, them pictures be real? No. I ain't
never seen it in person.
Speaker 4 (01:02:00):
AI is really the trip.
Speaker 1 (01:02:02):
That's before you. I seen it way before you.
Speaker 4 (01:02:04):
Because I'm like, her right now, when you see her.
Speaker 2 (01:02:07):
No, she's not thick.
Speaker 3 (01:02:08):
She's like.
Speaker 6 (01:02:08):
They had Judge Judy with a BBL online. Like, Judge
Judy had like.
Speaker 1 (01:02:11):
Nah, that wasn't no BBL. That's all natural right there. No,
I think it was fake. Let me look. Let me
look again. She what, like 75 or something like that?
What do you mean? Nothing. I'm just saying.
Speaker 2 (01:02:22):
Well, yeah, she's retiring after 30 years. She's passing the
gavel on down to her son. And yeah, she's going
to be, she says that she, you know, she still
wants her energy to be put out there, but she
wants to do other things.
Speaker 1 (01:02:34):
I wouldn't even want to do that if I was
her son. Because Judge Judy, I mean, I don't know
his personality. Has he been doing anything? Has he been
on these judge shows?
Speaker 6 (01:02:42):
There's nothing like Judge Judy. I remember Judge Judy used
to have Gia's mom or mother-in-law in a choco.
Speaker 1 (01:02:47):
Like, that was her show.
Speaker 8 (01:02:48):
They all do.
Speaker 1 (01:02:49):
Like, her show.
Speaker 6 (01:02:49):
Like, she would sit there for hours and we would
watch Judge Judy.
Speaker 1 (01:02:52):
Like, he has his choco.
Speaker 2 (01:02:54):
So he has his own show. It's called Adam's Law.
Speaker 1 (01:02:56):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (01:02:57):
He's been an attorney for more than 25 years. So
he's also been on he's been on a few shows.
But yeah, he has a new series, Adam's Law. It
premieres on it premieres today.
Speaker 4 (01:03:09):
Yep, it's coming out through CBS.
Speaker 6 (01:03:10):
I would figure out how I could use that name,
like Judge Judy's son or something like that, because I
don't know.
Speaker 1 (01:03:15):
Son of Judy?
Speaker 4 (01:03:16):
Son of Judy sounds like a soap opera.
Speaker 1 (01:03:19):
Yeah, I never heard of Adams, though.
Speaker 2 (01:03:20):
Well, anyway, but yeah, she's taking a step back. I mean,
we've been watching her forever, so, you know.
Speaker 1 (01:03:25):
God bless her. She deserves it.
Speaker 3 (01:03:26):
Yes.
Speaker 2 (01:03:27):
Now, speaking of legends, I want to go back. I
know we were talking about Jay-Z this morning, and I am...
really still excited about last night but um because you
met jay-z and beyonce you're never gonna fail not only
did i meet them at the after party y'all you
know i love to do electric slide yeah yeah as
soon as i heard the song i got up and
ran up and i didn't expect jay-z and beyonce homecoming
homecoming beyonce jay-z and beyonce was doing electric slide they
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danced all night long and i mean like had a
good time that's what couples in love do no but
like big celebrities be in there and be like cute
for the party they like had a good time.
Speaker 1 (01:03:59):
You realize they're humans Yes, but y'all know what I'm
talking about. Two black-ass humans.
Speaker 2 (01:04:02):
Y'all know what I'm talking about. You hang out with
some people or be around them, even if at a distance,
and they there, but they ain't really having a good time.
Speaker 4 (01:04:09):
They were having a good time.
Speaker 1 (01:04:09):
Couples in love are going to dance. They're going to
enjoy themselves. Oh, they were.
Speaker 4 (01:04:12):
Okay, all of that.
Speaker 1 (01:04:13):
All of that.
Speaker 2 (01:04:13):
Now, I want to play this audio that we have
exclusively from Bronco Grinding from last night. Jay-Z opened up
the premiere when we were at the Opera House.
Speaker 1 (01:04:22):
I thought you was in there working. I thought you
was in there taking it. I was about to fight you.
Speaker 8 (01:04:25):
I thought I was.
Speaker 1 (01:04:26):
About to fight you.
Speaker 2 (01:04:27):
I took my phone out one second to not to
record just to check what was happening in the world
and Charlamagne was like get off your phone be in
the moment I put it away that's right yeah let's
take a listen to Jay Z as he opened up
his premiere last.
Speaker 1 (01:04:37):
Night about this piece that Rick and I created it's
been an extraordinary year it's Jay Z 30 I want
to thank all you guys to come to the concert
and travel all around the world we didn't create this
piece to come out at this time we were just
curious to have this conversation around music and Writing. We
didn't know what we would do with it. It was
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just an idea that we discussed, Rick and I. I
think what makes it really special is that, you know,
the love that we have of music. Rick was super
curious about the world that a lot of us come from.
So I took it in places that I don't think
it normally would have went. It's super fascinating.
Speaker 3 (01:05:16):
I mean, if I.
Speaker 1 (01:05:17):
Do say so myself.
Speaker 5 (01:05:18):
I hope you guys enjoy it. Thank you guys for
this beautiful 30-year journey.
Speaker 11 (01:05:25):
Looking forward to what's next.
Speaker 5 (01:05:28):
Thank you.
Speaker 2 (01:05:30):
And to answer the question, we watched two episodes last night.
We watched episode one and three. So again, on September 18th,
two episodes will drop and then they'll drop on Fridays
after that. But also I want to shout out Angie
Martinez too.
Speaker 1 (01:05:42):
When we first talked about this.
Speaker 2 (01:05:44):
Documentary, we mentioned that it would be fire to see
her involved in some way. Last night, she was the
voice of God in a theater, which was like fire
to hear in New York.
Speaker 4 (01:05:51):
Let's take a listen to Angie.
Speaker 5 (01:05:53):
Yeah.
Speaker 8 (01:05:55):
It is the voice of God again.
Speaker 2 (01:05:57):
Andrew Martinez.
Speaker 9 (01:05:57):
Ladies and gentlemen, welcome to the Met Opera.
Speaker 10 (01:06:00):
It is our distinct honor to welcome to the stage
the incomparable Mr.
Speaker 1 (01:06:04):
Sean J.Z. Carter.
Speaker 4 (01:06:09):
Yeah, she was seated like right behind us and then
right behind her were J.Z.
Speaker 2 (01:06:12):
Beyonce.
Speaker 4 (01:06:14):
On the way in, I saw DJ Khaled. He is skinny.
Speaker 1 (01:06:16):
Salute to Khaled. Khaled really has lost a lot of weight.
He lost a lot of weight. I told him that
last night. I said, man, I ain't going to front.
I thought this was just for the gram.
Speaker 2 (01:06:22):
If I was him, I wouldn't have spoke to you.
You be so mean.
Speaker 1 (01:06:26):
I'm not mean, man. Jokes are not mean, okay? Just saying. Yes,
they are. They are the way people receive them.
Speaker 4 (01:06:31):
When I saw Khaled, he was so nice.
Speaker 1 (01:06:33):
He was so nice to me. Khaled is always nice.
Khaled is always nice. Always positive. He's always been a
nice guy.
Speaker 4 (01:06:37):
I felt so bad.
Speaker 7 (01:06:38):
I'm like, dang.
Speaker 1 (01:06:38):
But he really has lost a lot of weight. He has.
Fat Joe walked up to him.
Speaker 4 (01:06:41):
I was walking to the seat. Fat Joe walked up
and was like, what's up?
Speaker 2 (01:06:44):
Skinny.
Speaker 4 (01:06:45):
I'm like, oh, they greet each other like that now
because we lost the weight.
Speaker 1 (01:06:48):
You look good.
Speaker 2 (01:06:49):
Shout out to SZA too. Saw SZA in the after party.
Did y'all know that SZA went to Del State?
Speaker 1 (01:06:54):
I didn't know that I found that out last night
if I.
Speaker 2 (01:06:56):
Had told y'all that here y'all would have told me
I was lying but SZA was right there when I
said it and she was able.
Speaker 1 (01:07:00):
To confirm it you know what I ain't gonna say
nothing Lauren's.
Speaker 2 (01:07:04):
Crazy I didn't mean to but you do nothing shout
out to Gunna too I saw him last night as
well but good morning to SZA good morning Gunna.
Speaker 1 (01:07:13):
You especially say good morning to SZA say good morning
to SZA Good morning. Good morning, SZA. That's right. I'm
going to close bars for SZA.
Speaker 2 (01:07:20):
I'll follow Hornet.
Speaker 1 (01:07:22):
All right. Hey, SZA.
Speaker 2 (01:07:23):
I mean, look.
Speaker 1 (01:07:24):
I love you, SZA.
Speaker 2 (01:07:25):
I was going to say, you can't take me nowhere.
But last night, I proved that you can. We had
a good time.
Speaker 1 (01:07:28):
But I will say this.
Speaker 6 (01:07:29):
I think it's very, very, very dope seeing Jay-Z and
where he came from. Like, I started in the industry
and I got a chance to see Jay start and him,
you know, struggling to get records played and people not believe.
And then Seeing the world believe. And I used to,
you know, sit up in Rockefeller Records and just pretty
much just wait for albums.
Speaker 1 (01:07:46):
Sit in Lenny S.
Speaker 6 (01:07:47):
And G's office and see Hov and just see all
the work that he actually put in. And to see
it 30 years later and to see people still receiving
it and still loving it and still idolizing it.
Speaker 1 (01:07:56):
But he's such a humble. It's really, really dope. Like,
they are such nice, good people. And even them together.
After all of that.
Speaker 6 (01:08:02):
Like, Hov and Beyonce would be outside. Like, you would
see them out in a club, and they were always
so humble. Even though they are multi-platinum artists and billionaires,
they still speak.
Speaker 2 (01:08:14):
The biggest thing, last night, all I was thinking about
was how people say, your character will take you places
that sometimes even your talent is.
Speaker 1 (01:08:22):
No, no, no, no. Your talent will take you where
your character can't sustain you. So when you meet individuals
like that, you see why they've been on top of
their game for so long.
Speaker 2 (01:08:30):
Literally. And why the blessings just flow. Like when I
say just great, nice humans, like. And just having a
really good time. Like, enjoying life.
Speaker 1 (01:08:39):
They'll say we're glazing, but it's the truth.
Speaker 2 (01:08:40):
I don't care.
Speaker 1 (01:08:41):
Celebrate excellence, man.
Speaker 6 (01:08:43):
He'll sit down and talk to you for, like, it's
not like he's not going to say, okay, I got
to go.
Speaker 1 (01:08:47):
Like, he's going to one you. No. He'll have conversations
with you. He was dope.
Speaker 6 (01:08:50):
And it's crazy because you're like, bro, you got to
do this for all these people, but he has no
problem doing it.
Speaker 1 (01:08:54):
Yeah. Now, Beyonce, they'll still follow me and be like,
all right, enough's enough.
Speaker 2 (01:08:57):
No, but she, like when I was walking in, she
walks up to you.
Speaker 3 (01:09:01):
Yes.
Speaker 4 (01:09:01):
And she'll like, she makes you feel welcome.
Speaker 1 (01:09:04):
Says her name like you don't know her name?
Speaker 2 (01:09:05):
I didn't even speak back.
Speaker 4 (01:09:06):
I just held my hand out.
Speaker 1 (01:09:07):
Stop stuttering.
Speaker 4 (01:09:09):
Oh, I text the group chat instantly. Y'all, I just
met Beyonce.
Speaker 1 (01:09:12):
I miss everybody. Yes. If you can't celebrate other people's success,
you'll never have any success of your own. And I
will never downplay the inspiration that Jay-Z has provided me
throughout my life. Okay? All right? Never. And we should
never downplay the inspiration that Jay-Z has provided the whole generation.
Speaker 3 (01:09:27):
Okay?
Speaker 1 (01:09:28):
I'm going to keep telling y'all that over and over
and over again. And once again, you should hope... to
get to a point where you have something to celebrate
after 30 years. You should pray for that. You want
to get money for three years at 30. I just
need y'all to think this logically through. All of you
people out there be like, oh, see you old. You
(01:09:48):
would rather get money for three years or 30. Do
you want something to celebrate 30.
Speaker 6 (01:09:53):
Years from now? You think about it, right? To celebrate
five is amazing. To celebrate 10 is difficult. To celebrate
15 is always impossible. We going on 16. That's almost impossible.
How many, you know, not to glaze ourselves, but how
many radio shows have gone this long?
Speaker 1 (01:10:07):
Glazing yourself is crazy. I don't even like that.
Speaker 3 (01:10:13):
Hold on.
Speaker 1 (01:10:13):
Let me get to this.
Speaker 2 (01:10:15):
You need to be nice to people too, because I'd
be apprehensive when we run into them.
Speaker 1 (01:10:20):
Let me do this.
Speaker 6 (01:10:20):
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first gift. Now, that was the latest with Lawrence Charlemagne,
who we were giving that donkey to.
Speaker 1 (01:10:39):
Man, for after the hour, salute to all my Nigerians
out there, okay? Let's talk stereotypes.
Speaker 5 (01:10:44):
Oh, boy.
Speaker 1 (01:10:45):
And scamming.
Speaker 12 (01:10:45):
Oh, boy.
Speaker 1 (01:10:45):
But I got y'all this morning, Nigeria. Don't even worry
about it, okay? But there's six Nigerian men who need
to come to the front of the congregation. We'd like
to have a word with them. We'll get to it next.
It's the Breakfast Club. Good morning. It's time for donkey
of the day. There's a bunch of donkeys out here.
Call donkey of the day. It really caught me off guard.
We live a life where we bite our tongue based
(01:11:06):
off who we may offend. We never would say anything.
You are a donkey. That is why Charlemagne is here.
Some donkey todays just saw themselves. On The Breakfast Club. Okay, Charlamagne,
who you giving donkey of the day to today? Well,
donkey of the day for Monday, September 14th goes to
six Nigerian men who were extradited from South Africa to
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the United States for allegedly being involved in a romance
scam that targeted more than 100 women and stole millions
of dollars. I'm not even going to sit here and
act like I can pronounce these brothers' names, but let's
go to SABC News for the report, please.
Speaker 12 (01:11:41):
The six Nigerian nationals who are suspects in a multi-million
rand online romance scam have arrived at the Cape Town
International Airport for their extradition. the United States. They are
allegedly linked to the Nigerian cyber crimes syndicate, the Black Hawks,
and face charges of money laundering and wire fraud. The
(01:12:03):
Hawks say they initially arrested eight suspects in 2021, with
one being granted bail of R210, 000, while another was extradited
to the United States in 2024. This followed cooperation between
the Hawks, Interpol, the FBI, and the U.S.
Speaker 14 (01:12:22):
Secret Service. You must remember that the crime scene is online.
So there had to be proper investigation and proper money
trail to be traced back to individual suspects so that
we are able to make a case that is tangible
to stand before court.
Speaker 1 (01:12:40):
Jesus Christ, she didn't say their names either. So now
I got to attempt. I just say their first names. Perry, Franklin, Asarimeen.
Collins Busa, and Torres Asu. And last name Osajid. Osajid, Otaga,
and Otubu. Definitely not right, but go ahead. Anyway. They
are accused. They haven't been convicted. So we'll let the
court handle that part. But I want to discuss this
(01:13:00):
morning stereotypes, okay? Because when I saw this story, my
first thought was, my Nigerian brothers, why are y'all reinforcing
this stereotype? You know the stereotype I'm talking about, okay?
There are people on this planet who, when they heard
young Miami ass wear all the scamming ass N-words at,
the first place they thought about is Nigeria! OK, I
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was born in 1978 and Nigerians have been fighting the
scammer stereotype in America for as long as I can remember. OK,
it started with those. Nigerian Prince emails. You know, remember
those you get? Hello, my dear. I have inherited $ 14
million and I need your assistance. Okay. That's what started
a lot of this. And I don't like it because
I love Nigerians.
Speaker 3 (01:13:40):
Okay.
Speaker 1 (01:13:40):
Nigeria has over 200 million people. Some of the smartest,
most educated, most successful people I've ever met are from Nigeria.
Drop on the clues box in Nigeria. Damn it. You
got doctors, you got lawyers, you got engineers, you got
business owners. You can look at what Nigerian culture is
doing around the world right now. You know, the afro
beaches everywhere you got burn a boy we just was
(01:14:01):
playing tims okay nigeria has spent years showing the world
that there's so much more to that country than the
stereotypes people have about it and then here come these
six individuals doing romance scams allegedly okay do you understand
how much that has to piss off other nigerians somewhere
this morning there is a nigerian man sending a completely
legitimate business email and somebody is looking at that email
(01:14:24):
rubbing their chin like hmm i don't know OK, some
Nigerian brother is on a dating app right now trying
to genuinely meet somebody. And the woman is nervous waiting
to be asked for money. But that's how stereotypes work. OK,
one person does something and somehow everybody who looks like
them comes from where they're from gets thrown into it.
(01:14:45):
Don't become somebody else's confirmation bias. OK, people already got
ignorant ideas about certain groups and they just waiting for
something to happen that makes them feel like they're right. OK,
they don't care about the millions of Nigerians who wake
up every morning and go to work, raise their families
and don't scam nobody. They're going to see this story
and say, see, I told you all them scamming ass Negroes.
(01:15:09):
Carisha was talking about her from Nigeria. I told you. No. Okay,
we're talking about six Nigerians, six individuals, okay? And guys,
if you know people already have an unfair stereotype about
your community, why would you go out there and allegedly...
become the stereotype that's what i don't understand and i
know some people don't like that argument because they'll say
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why should i have to represent my whole race why
should nigerians have to represent all nigerians you're right you
shouldn't that's an unfair burden okay white people don't have
to do that when bernie madoff stole billions of dollars
nobody said man we got to keep an eye on
all these white people in their ponzi schemes no we
said bernie madoff was a crook okay one man we
didn't make millions of people answer for him but black
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people okay my brothers my sisters from all over the
globe you know damn well that's not how it works
for us okay people shouldn't stereotype nigerians because of what
these six men allegedly did but people will and that's
why if these allegations are true you know These brothers
got to suffer the consequences, okay? These brothers didn't just
hurt the women they allegedly scammed. They made life a
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little more annoying for some innocent Nigerian somewhere who already
has to deal with this stereotype. And I have to say,
the actual scam itself is nasty too. Because romance scammers
aren't just stealing money. They're studying people's loneliness. That's what
makes this so foul. You're finding somebody who wants companionship
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and you're figuring out exactly what they need to hear.
Good morning, beautiful. Did you eat today? I have jollof.
Then three months later, baby, I'm having a little trouble
accessing my bank account. Sir, you don't need a girlfriend. Okay,
you need a loan officer. And what really gets me
is the amount of work that allegedly goes into these scams.
If you have enough discipline to talk to somebody every day,
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enough patience to gain their trust, enough people skills to
make them fall in love with you, enough business sense
to allegedly move millions of dollars around, then you clearly
have the skill and talent to do something legitimate. You
could have been putting all of that energy into actually
doing something legitimate, but no, you want a scam. But
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back to the moral of the story. There's already an
ugly stereotype attached to Nigerians. And these six men allegedly
decided to become somebody's evidence for it. OK, you shouldn't
have to live your life trying to prove stereotypes wrong.
But you're damn sure shouldn't be working overtime to prove
them right. Please give these six alleged romance scammers from
Nigeria the biggest. I don't get it.
Speaker 2 (01:17:40):
How you say the names?
Speaker 1 (01:17:42):
I don't know. Don't do that to him. Don't do
that to him.
Speaker 4 (01:17:44):
His accent changed and everything.
Speaker 1 (01:17:46):
I don't even know why because that wasn't even a
Nigerian accent.
Speaker 4 (01:17:48):
I don't know what your accent was.
Speaker 1 (01:17:49):
I don't know what that was either. I have no idea.
Speaker 6 (01:17:51):
Well, thank you for that donkey today. Now, when we
come back, Kristen and Montel Jordan will be joining us.
They have a new children's book, Shiloh and the Not-So-Scary
Girl Above His Bed.
Speaker 5 (01:18:01):
Damn!
Speaker 1 (01:18:02):
A book about overcoming fear with faith. All right. We're
going to talk to them next. Why did you do that?
There was no reason to say damn. It's a children's book.
I just feel like saying damn all morning. This is
dopamine from last night. Damn. All right. My cowboys lost. Damn.
That was a good one. You see what I'm saying?
That was a good one. Now I feel like I
need a damn this morning. I ain't here for Trav.
Y'all check on Trav. I know Trav went to the game.
(01:18:25):
All right, it's Breakfast Club.
Speaker 5 (01:18:26):
Good morning.
Speaker 1 (01:18:26):
Good morning, everybody.
Speaker 6 (01:18:27):
It's DJ Envy, Jess Hilarious, Charlamagne Tha God.
Speaker 1 (01:18:31):
We are The Breakfast Club. Lorna Rose is here as well.
We got some special guests in the building. Yes, indeed.
We have Montel and his wife, Christian Jordan.
Speaker 3 (01:18:38):
Welcome.
Speaker 1 (01:18:38):
What's up? Christian Jordan. I'm sorry. Christian Jordan.
Speaker 8 (01:18:41):
Sorry.
Speaker 1 (01:18:41):
Christian Jordan. She is a Christian.
Speaker 16 (01:18:43):
I am.
Speaker 1 (01:18:44):
How y'all feeling? We feel great.
Speaker 2 (01:18:46):
Man, we are so good.
Speaker 1 (01:18:47):
New children's book, Shiloh and the Scary Girl Above His Bed.
The not so scary girl above his bed. Talk to
us about this book.
Speaker 17 (01:18:56):
Yeah, this actually started with my son when he was
three years old. He was afraid of the monster that
lived under his bed. And the crazy part, I was like, Lord,
we got to fix this. Cause like he would show
up on my doorstep at my door every single night.
I was like, okay, you got to sleep in your
own bed, bud. But he was so afraid of this monster.
And I was like, okay. And so I, one night
when I was putting him to bed, I said, baby,
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what if the monster that's under the bed is more
afraid of you than you are of him? And what
if he wants to be your friend? And he was like, huh?
I said, I assure you that he's way more afraid
of you than you are of him.
Speaker 1 (01:19:30):
He was like, Okay. And he decided he was sleeping
in his bed. And I was like, okay, this is good.
We can do this. Where did that instinct come from?
Because I do that with bugs. Like when my little
girls are mad at ants, I'll be like, you're way
bigger than them ants. Them ants scare me. Right.
Speaker 17 (01:19:44):
Well, you know, the crazy thing is, I think one
of the things we do as parents that is, we
don't know what we're doing. But the concept of it is,
is that we will say, oh, that's not scary. But
the truth is, when we were kids, we were afraid
of that too. But when we lean into it and say, hey,
what if? And it's the wonder, right? And to ask
them the questions. And once they are able to think
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about it and articulate how they feel, it's like, oh,
wait a minute, you're right. I'm way bigger than that bug.
I'm way bigger than whatever it is that I'm afraid of.
Speaker 16 (01:20:13):
Yeah, it's flipping fear on its side because I think
we believe that unattended fear as a child can become trauma.
Speaker 1 (01:20:21):
Anxiety.
Speaker 3 (01:20:22):
Fear.
Speaker 1 (01:20:22):
Worry. Oppression.
Speaker 16 (01:20:24):
Yeah, and even as marriage people that help couples in marriage,
we found that A lot of their fears go all
the way back to their childhood, to things about staying
or fighting or being afraid of this.
Speaker 1 (01:20:38):
Absolutely. You know, isolation, all those different things.
Speaker 17 (01:20:40):
It's so crazy because we literally sit across from couples
all the time and we're like, so what is going on? Well,
I'm afraid to stay. I'm afraid to go. I'm afraid
I picked the wrong one. It's like, good night. And
when we thought about that, we were like, where does
that come from? And it comes to when you have
childhood fears, us as parents saying, oh, you don't have
to be afraid of that. But the truth is, unattended
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fear becomes anxiety, becomes oppression, becomes depression, becomes not knowing
what to do next. And so we got to teach
kids how to be brave.
Speaker 1 (01:21:11):
I love it because it's about perspective, right? Because it's like,
you know, it's not about removing your child's fears, but
just teaching them another way to look at them. How
do you know when you're not traumatizing your kid, right?
Speaker 6 (01:21:20):
I don't want to traumatize the kids so much where
they're super duper scared. But I don't want to coddle
them too much where everything falls back and I got
a nine-year-old sleeping in between mom and dad.
Speaker 1 (01:21:30):
You know what I mean? So I know when it's
not going too far.
Speaker 17 (01:21:33):
Well, the truth of the matter is, is that we
need to lean in. It's asking more questions and listening.
A lot of times we're so quick to tell them.
what they're supposed to think or what they're supposed to feel.
And the truth is, is when you ask them the questions,
they'll tell you what they're really afraid of.
Speaker 1 (01:21:48):
Like for us, we have five kids, five grandkids. We
got a lot of experience.
Speaker 17 (01:21:56):
So, and the crazy part of that is, is that
when we lean in and ask, why are you afraid
to go? We have my youngest daughter right now went
to high school, like three days before school, she starts.
Speaker 1 (01:22:06):
Acting a fool. I'm like, what's wrong with you? And
she was like, you know what, mom, I'm afraid to
go to school. I was like, why? I was like,
you go to a school that you love. It's an
art school.
Speaker 17 (01:22:17):
She's like, what if I don't make friends in ninth grade?
So what that does and what that tells me is
that every kid has fears.
Speaker 5 (01:22:25):
Right.
Speaker 1 (01:22:25):
And so rather than say, oh, you're going to make friends.
I said, you know what?
Speaker 17 (01:22:28):
What about that is scary to you? She goes, what
if they don't like me? I said, you already know them.
I said, and here's the truth. You're already accepted. You're
already amazing. Whoever God has for you to be your friend,
they're going to be awesome. So lean into, I don't
need a whole bunch of friends. What if I just
make one? And so as we start to talk it out,
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she realizes, like, I can relax. It's going to be
all right. But it's really just dialoguing with them.
Speaker 1 (01:22:55):
I'm somebody who deals with anxiety. And one thing I've learned,
and I want to know what y'all think about this.
Do we actively teach children that fear is weakness when
fear is actually information? That's correct. That's exactly right.
Speaker 17 (01:23:06):
And I think it's the leaning in that allows the
information to inform your brain and your heart how to react.
It's not that it's not scary. It's that if you
ask the right questions, you can proceed with the bravery
and the courage.
Speaker 1 (01:23:19):
It's so crazy. You know, we're believers.
Speaker 17 (01:23:22):
And one of the things that always shocks me is
that the scriptures is a lot of times it says,
be bold and courageous.
Speaker 1 (01:23:28):
The only reason it would say that is what you're
facing is scary. Because otherwise, there's no reason to say that, right?
Speaker 17 (01:23:36):
So when we're dealing with giants in our lives, whatever
that may look like, we have to do it afraid.
Speaker 1 (01:23:42):
But how do we do it afraid?
Speaker 17 (01:23:43):
We lean in and we do hard things. It's not
that we don't do the things that we need to do,
but it's learning how to do it the right way
and doing it afraid and saying, guess what? It's okay
to be afraid, but I know that you'll do this
and do it well.
Speaker 1 (01:23:57):
Yeah, I agree. And from that standpoint, when we.
Speaker 16 (01:24:00):
Like I said, if you can catch it early, if
you can get to the kids before fear. grabs a
stranglehold on them and.
Speaker 1 (01:24:07):
To teach them.
Speaker 16 (01:24:08):
And like you said, some fear is not unfathomable. You
need to be afraid of that. I need to put
fear in you in certain instances. When you want to
put your fingers in the socket or whatever, no, don't
do that. I need you to be afraid of what
will happen, not only if you do that, but what
I will do to you if I catch you trying
to do that. And so I think that it is
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important for us to be able to give a healthy
measure of what fear is, but also to equip.
Speaker 1 (01:24:34):
People to understand.
Speaker 16 (01:24:36):
And I say people, even our little people, we need
them to understand that fear is not something, you know,
to shy away from, but to be able to face
it and recognize what it is. Because, you know, I
think the more you run from your fear or whatever,
You know, it'll chase you your entire lifetime.
Speaker 1 (01:24:54):
Absolutely.
Speaker 15 (01:24:55):
Now, the baby boy who the story is about.
Speaker 1 (01:24:58):
Yes. How old is he now? Now he's 22.
Speaker 5 (01:25:00):
22.
Speaker 1 (01:25:01):
Yeah, he's about to turn 23. At Morehouse.
Speaker 5 (01:25:03):
Yes.
Speaker 3 (01:25:04):
Okay.
Speaker 1 (01:25:04):
Does he get his royalties in publishing? No, it's okay.
Speaker 2 (01:25:07):
I was about to ask that.
Speaker 1 (01:25:09):
Listen, he's the whole franchise. Okay. Guess what?
Speaker 17 (01:25:13):
At the end of the day, all of this is
going to be theirs, right? So we leave a legacy
and inheritance.
Speaker 1 (01:25:19):
To our children's children's children. Yeah.
Speaker 17 (01:25:21):
It's going to be good. And it's funny because we
had him at the release party and it was so funny.
The kids were like, he's so big. I said, yes, look,
and he made it and he's brave.
Speaker 1 (01:25:31):
They're like, I can do this. I was like, yes.
Is he still scared under the bed? No, not in
the bed. It's the linemen come across the line. How
would his book teach a child to distinguish between fear
that's protecting them and fear that's limiting them?
Speaker 17 (01:25:50):
Um, it, So the idea of it is, is that
when we are putting our kids to bed, right? So
this is a story really designed to talk about the
things that they were afraid of in that day. And
so what we want to do is invite the parents
to have conversations with about what the child has dealt
with during the day. And so we want them to
understand when we have fear, it's okay to be fearful,
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but what can you do about it? We can invite
faith into that and say, God made you brave. You
can do hard things. You can be bold. You can
be courageous. And really, the truth is, as much of
the negative words that we've said... If we say the
positive and we show them, because they don't come with fears.
Speaker 1 (01:26:29):
They don't.
Speaker 17 (01:26:29):
Just like we talked about our one-year-old granddaughter. She has
zero fear, zero inhibitions. She will walk right off the
side of the pool, right into the water. And so
it's one of those things is that now we're teaching
them how to have conversations, to pay attention to what's
going on inside them, and note that this doesn't have
to be this way.
Speaker 1 (01:26:49):
What's something your children taught you about God that church
never could?
Speaker 17 (01:26:52):
That a love of a child... is one of the
most innocent and beautiful things that you could ever steward.
I don't think we talk about that in church very much,
but it is one of the greatest gifts that you
get is to see this person that you created, but
you get to navigate them through. The good the bad
(01:27:14):
the ugly whatever that is and that I get to
be a good steward over this kid But what I
pour in I get out when I was a kid
My mom used to tell me you can't plant peas
and get corn You can't put the negativity and the
the all the stuff that we get from the world
We have to start with what we put in there.
It's gonna come out eventually they go through rough patches
(01:27:36):
they go through rough times, but the truth is I
They always come back and it always comes around.
Speaker 16 (01:27:41):
For me, let me just jump in there real quick
that I learned the most valuable lesson that I've ever
learned about ministry that church could not teach me. And
this is when we had first brought our daughter Samantha
home and she was three days old and she wasn't eating.
And at the time, we didn't know what was going on.
And then literally, baby started turning blue or whatever. And
(01:28:02):
we didn't know what to do. And so we end
up rushing to the hospital or whatever. And when we're there,
this is a three-day-old baby who hadn't eaten. We're trying
to breastfeed and everything. And she just would not eat.
And so when we get to the hospital, they basically
tell us, hey, we're going to need to do a
spinal tap.
Speaker 1 (01:28:21):
As a father.
Speaker 16 (01:28:22):
them coming to me to say, hey, we need to
do this to your daughter for her to live. And
I'm thinking to myself, they're coming to me for the answer.
My wife is looking at me. Everybody's looking to me
to be like, what do you what do you do?
And I had to trust one. OK, well, God, you
gave her to us. And so she was yours before
she was ours. And even I don't want to make
(01:28:43):
this decision. I have to trust that. I'm going to
put her in the hands of the people that are
saying they know more than what I know. And so
the closest I've ever tried to imagine what it is
to give up your child for somebody else, what God
did for us through Jesus, that was what I felt
like it gave me the closest understanding of what it
(01:29:05):
is to actually be willing to sacrifice a life that
you love so much, but trusting God in that space.
And so I've never wanted to have to do that again,
but from that standpoint, just understanding I'm not God, but
if I could get a glimpse of what he felt
like to give up his child, to me, that's what
I got out of that.
Speaker 6 (01:29:26):
I always tell parents to double check and make sure
triple check. So something similar happened last year, Christmas time.
They told me my daughter would need brain surgery. Something
didn't sit right with me. And we took her out
of New Jersey and I took her to a hospital
in New York. And when the doctors seen her in
New York, He came, he looked at the charts, he
started laughing, right? So I didn't find it funny.
Speaker 1 (01:29:48):
I'm like, what the f * * * is so funny?
And I'm serious, what the f * * * is
so funny? Stop cursing in front of the church.
Speaker 3 (01:29:52):
People, man.
Speaker 6 (01:29:53):
Because I'm telling you exactly what you're telling me. So
we're sitting there, me and my wife's in, the baby's in,
the baby is wrapped up. And he was like, those
doctors told you in Jersey that she needed brain surgery.
Speaker 1 (01:30:05):
I'm like, yeah, he starts laughing. I'm like, what's so funny?
He was like, she doesn't need brain surgery. He was like,
there's nothing on this chart that tells me she needs
brain surgery. What she does need is that she needs
to clean out everything that's in her nose. Oh, sinuses.
She needs up to it, her sinuses. But she has
a sinus infection, no brain surgery.
Speaker 3 (01:30:21):
Wow.
Speaker 1 (01:30:22):
Brain surgery is crazy. That's crazy.
Speaker 6 (01:30:23):
So if we would have left her there, they probably
would have started with the brain surgery and messed her up.
And I still didn't believe the doctors. I'm like, two
doctors told me she needed this.
Speaker 1 (01:30:33):
Yeah.
Speaker 6 (01:30:33):
They did the sinus thing and within... hours, face cleared up.
It was the craziest thing. And it just made me think, like,
when it comes to that, you got to ask, you
got to double check, you got to triple check.
Speaker 1 (01:30:46):
Ask all the questions.
Speaker 6 (01:30:47):
I mean, I called Charlemagne because they told me the
best children's hospital was in South Carolina.
Speaker 1 (01:30:50):
Remember I called you? I'm like, give me that number.
Can you get this? Like, it was that. I get it.
Because you're so scared. But I know you guys have
to go.
Speaker 6 (01:30:56):
And before you go, I want to talk about September
is Prostate Cancer Awareness Month. I want to talk about
that before you go and why it's so important and
why people should get checked and how they should get checked.
Speaker 1 (01:31:06):
You beat it twice.
Speaker 6 (01:31:07):
So break it down to the brothers out there listening.
Speaker 3 (01:31:10):
All right.
Speaker 16 (01:31:10):
Two-time cancer survivor. Last time I was here last year
was Prostate Cancer Awareness Month and I was headed into
a treatment. I had my prostate removed. November of 2024.
And then cancer came back in 2025. And so at
that time, I then went from not having a prostate
to now having proton therapy, which was 37 rounds of
(01:31:32):
this radiation treatment or whatever. And I can say several
different things. One, I am my PSA, which is prostate
specific antigen level. which is characterized by a blood test now.
You don't have to do the finger checks. My PSA
is sub 0.01, which is undetectable, meaning I'm cancer free.
So thank God for that. One in every eight men
(01:31:53):
will be diagnosed with prostate cancer in their lifetime. One
in every six will be African-American and less likely to
survive it because of late diagnosis.
Speaker 17 (01:32:02):
They usually don't get diagnosed until stage four. And so
then now you have less choices.
Speaker 1 (01:32:07):
How often do you get checked for prostate?
Speaker 16 (01:32:09):
Is it yearly when you do? No, I don't get
checked for prostate anymore. Cause I don't have a prostate.
Speaker 1 (01:32:13):
How often should somebody get checked?
Speaker 3 (01:32:14):
Yeah.
Speaker 16 (01:32:15):
Well right now, well, how often should somebody get checked
is normally once a year when your physicals, once you
reach a certain age for African American, then you want
to start going probably a little earlier. They say, as
early as 35 to 40.
Speaker 1 (01:32:29):
It's in blood. It's just in your blood now.
Speaker 16 (01:32:30):
You just have to ask for the test. But you
have to ask for the test because when you go
just for a regular physical, they're not going to check
your PSA.
Speaker 1 (01:32:37):
That's correct. They're not. It's crazy.
Speaker 6 (01:32:38):
That's crazy because a lot of people assume, though, that
when you go to the doctor and they give blood,
they'll be like, everything's clear.
Speaker 1 (01:32:43):
You automatically think that they checked everything. No, you have
to ask. You have to ask for it. You have
to ask. And it's super important because.
Speaker 17 (01:32:50):
The thing is, the insurance companies, it costs like $ 75, right,
for them to do. So that's why they don't want
everybody doing it, right? But the truth is, is it
pales in comparison.
Speaker 16 (01:33:01):
They're trying to pass legislation now and do some different
things to get it mandatory. Like when a woman, they
want you to have mammograms or X, Y, and Z.
They're starting to want men to have PSA, but they
haven't passed that legislation yet. Hopefully, we're somewhere at the
forefront of that. But ultimately, the goal is now I go...
every four months to go back and just have blood
(01:33:21):
checked or whatever. And then at some point when I'm clear,
it'll be six months and then a year. And then
I think after like 10 years or whatever, then you
don't have to do that anymore.
Speaker 1 (01:33:30):
Y'all have to leave? Yeah. Well, how can they get
the book?
Speaker 17 (01:33:34):
Anywhere you can possibly buy a book.
Speaker 1 (01:33:36):
You can get it. Amazon, Books A Million. We like Amazon,
but Barnes & Noble, Books A Million. Wherever you can
get a book. Oh, my God.
Speaker 2 (01:33:43):
Both of my kids got memberships at Books A Million.
Speaker 15 (01:33:45):
Yay!
Speaker 1 (01:33:49):
Or pick it up if you're out and about. Thank
you for joining us so much. Shiloh and the Not-So-Scary
Girl Above His Bed. That's right. Christian and Martel Jordan.
Thank y'all for having us.
Speaker 3 (01:33:56):
Thank you.
Speaker 1 (01:33:57):
Thank you so much. It's The Breakfast Club. Good morning.
Let's get to the latest with Lauren. We're going to
be coming with straight facts. She gets them from somebody
that knows somebody. She gets the details.
Speaker 2 (01:34:06):
I'm the homegirl that knows a little bit about everything.
Speaker 1 (01:34:10):
She be having the latest on you. The latest with
Lauren La Rosa. Sometimes you have facts. Sometimes you have details.
Sometimes you have a little bit of everything. What was
the latest? Brought to you by Top Dog Law. On
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Speaker 5 (01:34:26):
Yes.
Speaker 8 (01:34:26):
Hey.
Speaker 3 (01:34:27):
All right.
Speaker 2 (01:34:28):
So over the weekend, we've been following this, just kind
of talking about things as they happen a bit. Little Dirk,
Little Dirk, over the weekend, it was announced that he
was found not guilty in the murder for hire case
that is happening in L.A., So he is now exonerated
in this murder for hire case because the jury found
him not guilty on all five of the charges. It
(01:34:49):
only took them three days to deliberate to return this
verdict and his alleged involvement in that 2022 shooting in L.A.
that ended up in Quando Rondo's cousin being killed.
Speaker 4 (01:35:01):
So, yeah.
Speaker 1 (01:35:02):
But he's still locked up though, right?
Speaker 2 (01:35:03):
Yeah, he's still locked up because he has another case
that he's fighting. There's another RICO case that he's fighting
that he's going to have to deal with over in Chicago.
Speaker 4 (01:35:10):
But, yeah, I mean, this is a big... thing to
walk away from.
Speaker 2 (01:35:14):
I saw a lot of people pointing to, you know,
Brian Steele as, you know, on the defense team and, yeah,
Drew Finland as well on the defense team. But I honestly,
I didn't know what was going to happen, but I
don't know if I knew it would be like he
just walked away from all of those charges.
Speaker 1 (01:35:30):
I mean, like I said before, I never... I never
understood what they had on, Dirk, because when you put
these guys on the stand that are confessing to all
of these different crimes that they committed and they're trying
to save their own ass, they can point the finger
at anybody. I never understood the whole cooperating witness thing.
Unless you got evidence and then you got people that are,
(01:35:54):
I guess, validating that evidence, I never understood the whole
cooperating witness thing. You can just put somebody on the
stand and they can just... Accused you of all types
of stuff?
Speaker 6 (01:36:00):
Yeah, they're supposed to be telling the truth because if
they cooperate, they get less time. But, like, yeah, if
you're talking about life and you could possibly get some
numbers where you could come home, you're going to say
anything you have to to say to get home.
Speaker 1 (01:36:12):
Yeah, but sometimes... But.
Speaker 2 (01:36:14):
I will say, sometimes that works because the defense isn't
as good as showing you that these people are not trustworthy.
So that legal team that Dirk has set up, I
don't care who sent them, who did not send them, they.
Speaker 4 (01:36:25):
They did a good job.
Speaker 1 (01:36:26):
Yes. I ain't heard y'all give no praises to Allah
yet because I will tell you this. Well, I can't
wait to see what God has in store for Lil
Durk because before Durk went in, he clearly was trying
to change his life.
Speaker 3 (01:36:38):
Clearly.
Speaker 1 (01:36:38):
Like, you know, his album called Almost Healed. you know,
he was going to therapy and things of that nature.
Like he was given, he had submitted his will to God. Like,
so I can't wait to see what the second act
is after this.
Speaker 2 (01:36:49):
Well, real quick, before we stop talking about Lil Durk,
I do want to mention Amber Grimes sat down with
his mom, Lil Durk's mom on If You Knew Better,
which is her podcast.
Speaker 4 (01:36:58):
It's on the Black Effect podcast network.
Speaker 2 (01:37:00):
And it was so sad to hear, but Lil Durk's
mom was talking about kind of who she blamed for
all that Durk recently went through.
Speaker 4 (01:37:06):
Let's take a listen.
Speaker 13 (01:37:07):
I feel like Everything that has happened is my fault.
I blame myself for my son getting killed and I
blame myself for my son being locked up. I know
for a fact it's my fault because if I would
listen to my mom then on what to do and
how to do it, how to move, how to go
(01:37:28):
finish school, how to get your career going so that
you can get about the neighborhood that we're living in,
which is 7220. And I kept putting it off like, Oh,
I got plenty of time to do that. If I
would have listened like I was supposed to, we would
have been somewhere totally different. They would have been raised different.
And I felt like everything would have been better. Right now,
I'm just going through the motions right now to try
(01:37:51):
to get everything back on track.
Speaker 15 (01:37:53):
Do you believe there's still time for you to do that?
Speaker 9 (01:37:56):
Yes.
Speaker 13 (01:37:57):
It's never too late. I've been asked my children for forgiveness.
And they're like, for what?
Speaker 2 (01:38:03):
What did you do?
Speaker 1 (01:38:04):
They think the world of me.
Speaker 13 (01:38:06):
And I never understood why.
Speaker 1 (01:38:08):
That's powerful.
Speaker 2 (01:38:09):
Yeah. And again, that was If You Knew Better. It
was a conversation with Amber Grimes. And her name is Ms.
LaShonda Woodard. That's Dirk's mom. So she was talking about
the passing of his brother D-Thing as well, too.
Speaker 1 (01:38:18):
But yeah. It's understandable, right?
Speaker 6 (01:38:20):
Because as parents, you want to make sure that you
put your kids in the best predicament, in the best situation,
whatever that may be. And sometimes we work hard to
do it. And I understand why she would feel that way.
I'm sure she feels like if I would have did
it this way, I would have got out of that
part of Chicago. I would have been able to raise
them in this part. And maybe they wouldn't have went
down a lifestyle like they did. But you also can't
blame yourself, right? Because you don't have a... You're doing.
Speaker 4 (01:38:43):
The best you can with what you have.
Speaker 1 (01:38:44):
Match all of it to the future. But she's essentially
saying she wished she would have broke But I think
one of the most important things that she said was
she should have listened to the adults that came before her.
If she'd have listened to her mom, then she would
have made better choices and she would have got out
that environment and things might have been different. for her kids.
So it's a lot of different lessons to be learned
in that. But one of the biggest takeaways is listen
(01:39:05):
to the people who came before you.
Speaker 8 (01:39:07):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (01:39:07):
Okay.
Speaker 10 (01:39:08):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (01:39:08):
And I know it was emotional for her and her
family and for Dirk. I saw some of the reporters
in the courtroom mentioned how emotional it was for them.
Speaker 4 (01:39:14):
So yes.
Speaker 1 (01:39:14):
All right, y'all.
Speaker 2 (01:39:15):
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All right.
Speaker 6 (01:39:25):
Now, let's get to the mix. Today is Nas' birthday.
We're going to start the mix off with some Nas.
It's The Breakfast Club.
Speaker 1 (01:39:30):
Good morning. Good morning, everybody.
Speaker 6 (01:39:31):
It's DJ Envy, Jess Hilarious, Charlamagne Tha Guy.
Speaker 1 (01:39:35):
We are The Breakfast Club. I want to salute to
my little baby girls again.
Speaker 2 (01:39:38):
Yes.
Speaker 1 (01:39:39):
Brooklyn and London.
Speaker 3 (01:39:40):
Fire.
Speaker 6 (01:39:41):
If you didn't listen to earlier, they made the New
York City's Kids Dancer.
Speaker 1 (01:39:45):
So, they are. Fire.
Speaker 6 (01:39:46):
Going to be dancing at the home game. So if
you head to some of the Knicks games, you probably.
Speaker 1 (01:39:50):
Will see them. Hopefully you'll see them. I'm super duper excited.
Speaker 6 (01:39:53):
There's 26 kids to make the team, but they divide
them off to 13 to 13 because they are kids
and they are working and they are getting paid.
Speaker 1 (01:40:01):
They can only work a certain amount.
Speaker 6 (01:40:02):
Of hours a week. So they will be working. So
they will be getting their first checks and I'm excited
for them. So they understand how important this is and
how they got to be on time, how they got
to be with kids.
Speaker 1 (01:40:12):
They have a special appearances. It's pretty dope.
Speaker 6 (01:40:14):
So salute again to the Nick City Kids Dancers. Salute
to LaToya, who was the coach. Salute to Jen. They
are the choreographers of this thing, and they really, really,
really love the kids.
Speaker 1 (01:40:25):
So I just want to say thank you. I'm just
happy they're making some money.
Speaker 7 (01:40:28):
Again.
Speaker 1 (01:40:28):
My daughter was a cheerleader, and boy, they don't make
no money. Them cheerleading competitions, like being a cheer dad,
you're just putting out, putting out, putting out. So the
fact that they're in dance and they're already making some money, oh,
my God. Yeah, now they're making money. They get paid
for rehearsing. They get paid for performing. They get paid
for special appearances. They get paid for all that. And
they're super duper excited. I know that's right.
Speaker 2 (01:40:48):
And congratulations.
Speaker 4 (01:40:49):
That got to feel good as a parent.
Speaker 1 (01:40:50):
Absolutely.
Speaker 6 (01:40:50):
I just love watching them. I just love watching them
do something that they really want to do.
Speaker 2 (01:40:54):
But you work hard to get your babies into things.
You never know what's going to stick and what's going
to happen. So I know that that feels good to
watch and see.
Speaker 1 (01:41:00):
Absolutely. And also we got to salute to Dr. Jess
for joining us this morning. Salute to Dr. Jessica Clemons.
Very important conversation we had today. Speaking of babies. Yes,
very important conversation we had today about postpartum psychosis. You know, Dr.
Jessica Clemons is a board-certified psychiatrist, and, you know, that
is her specialty, you know, dealing with pregnant women and
(01:41:20):
maternal health. So salute to her, you know, maternal mental health,
you know. So salute to Dr. Jessica Clemons, and make
sure you go check out that full conversation on Netflix.
Speaker 6 (01:41:30):
And also salute to Kristen and Montel Jordan for joining us.
They stopped through today to talk about their new children's book,
Shiloh and the Not-So-Scary Girl Above His Bed, a book
about overcoming fear with faith. So salute to them.
Speaker 1 (01:41:45):
For joining us.
Speaker 2 (01:41:45):
Why would you point to me?
Speaker 1 (01:41:47):
You just sent me something, and I was on a
flight with him yesterday. Oh, okay. You know who I
want to salute to? I want to salute to Mr.
Speaker 8 (01:41:54):
Abdul.
Speaker 1 (01:41:56):
Salute to you, brother. That is a scissors father. You know,
every time I run into scissors parents, you know, Miss
Audrey and Mr. Abdul, they're all always very pleasant people, man.
And I saw Mr. Abdul last night. Got to spend
some time with him and have a have a have
a conversation. So salute to him.
Speaker 2 (01:42:12):
Older people love you.
Speaker 1 (01:42:14):
I'm a nice human.
Speaker 2 (01:42:15):
I know you are. You just don't act like it
all the time. But you are.
Speaker 1 (01:42:18):
You are. Does any human act like it?
Speaker 2 (01:42:20):
You fine by me.
Speaker 1 (01:42:21):
I'm consistent.
Speaker 4 (01:42:22):
What the auntie say?
Speaker 2 (01:42:22):
You fine by me. Get over there and do that
little dance.
Speaker 3 (01:42:24):
No, no, no.
Speaker 1 (01:42:24):
Them aunties be like, you so handsome.
Speaker 2 (01:42:27):
No, I don't know what it is.
Speaker 4 (01:42:29):
It's the cataracts. It's the cataracts.
Speaker 1 (01:42:31):
Because I'm 90s rom-com fine. Baby. How do you say
it to him? He says, how do you say I am? Like,
usually people say you are.
Speaker 2 (01:42:36):
No, it's the cataracts. I promise you. Every time somebody
be like, they be like, the eyes.
Speaker 4 (01:42:39):
I be like, of the devil?
Speaker 3 (01:42:40):
The eyes.
Speaker 1 (01:42:41):
They think you're a woman. The eyes.
Speaker 4 (01:42:43):
The brows.
Speaker 1 (01:42:44):
When we come back, positive notice of Breakfast Club. Envy
just described me and got bricked up. He's like, no,
it's a thick thigh. You see, they think he a woman.
You see how he just described me? Why are you
thinking about me like that? Time to get up out
of here. You got a positive note?
Speaker 3 (01:42:55):
Yes.
Speaker 1 (01:42:56):
First, I want to tell everybody, though, you know my
sixth annual Mental Wealth Expo is happening on World Mental
Health Day at the Joelle and Diane Bloom Wellness and
Event Center. and Newark, New Jersey. It is a completely
free event. Salute to the good brother, Dr. Jay Barnett.
He will be there. The good sister, Debbie Brown, she's
hosting it along with me, and she's curating the whole event, man.
Speaker 5 (01:43:17):
Dr.
Speaker 1 (01:43:17):
Rita Walker, the author of The Unapologetic Guide to Black
Mental Health, she's going to be there. The good brother,
Kiara Gaines, is going to be there. Elliot Connie is
going to be there. Salute to Michelle Williams. She's back
joining us this year. The last couple of years, She's
been on Broadway, but she's going to be there with
us at the Mental Wealth Expo. And just right now,
I am letting everybody know that Dr. Julius Thomas will
(01:43:41):
be there along with Dr. Ayanla Vanzant. And we are
doing a healing the heart and rewiring the brain presentation
with Dr. Julius Thomas and Dr. Ayan Levanzant. So Saturday,
October 10th, doors open at 1030 a.m. The Joelle and
Diane Bloom Wellness and Events Center in Newark, New Jersey.
(01:44:02):
It is a free event, completely free and open to
all ages. Just go to mentalwealthexpo.com, the RSVP to be there. Now,
the positive note is simply this. Abundance often arrives when
desperation leaves. OK, the less you chase from a place
of lack, the more freely life begins to unfold. Not
because the universe rewards indifference, but because contentment frees you
(01:44:23):
to recognize opportunities you once overlooked. When your heart is
no longer grasping, your hands are finally grasping. Open to receive.
Have a great day. Breakfast Club, bitches! Y'all finished or
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