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June 10, 2026 95 mins

Today on The Breakfast Club, Nick Grant talks Smile, Bars & Books, J.I.D, TDE, and his interest in screenwriting. Dr. Steven A. Chambers discusses NYC’s Young Men’s Initiative, hustle culture, and destigmatizing mental health care. Dystany Spurlock also joins us to talk about becoming the first Black woman to race in NASCAR, her career journey, overcoming struggles, and staying on track. Plus, Charlamagne Tha God gives Donkey of the Day to a Florida pastor charged with child neglect after foster children were allegedly found living in unsafe conditions and without food. Listen for more!

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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Wake up, wake up, wait that ass up the program
your alarm to power one oh five point one on iHeartRadio.

Speaker 2 (00:07):
Good morning, Usa.

Speaker 3 (00:09):
Yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo
yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo
yo yo yo yo yo yo yo y'o.

Speaker 1 (00:14):
Jess, hilarious, We that ass Charlamagne, Peace to the planet.

Speaker 2 (00:18):
Guess what day it is? Guess what day it is?

Speaker 1 (00:24):
How y'all feel out there? I feel bleft, black and
holly favorite, Happy to be here another day to serve
our beautiful listeners. Good morning, Good morning, Wednesday, middle of
the week. How you feeling, Jess, good, good morning?

Speaker 4 (00:33):
How are you?

Speaker 2 (00:33):
I'm good?

Speaker 5 (00:34):
My daughter got me last night and now I dine
did it to my parents many a times. What it's
eight o'clock at night, everybody settled in, just got back
from practice and everything. And my dad, my daughter says, dad,
can you take me to the staples. I'm like, because
I got a project. I hate that I got a
I'm like a project.

Speaker 2 (00:50):
When does it do? She goes tomorrow, morn tomorrow. I'm
like tomorrow, all right.

Speaker 1 (00:54):
So it's a digestive system project where they have to
show the digestive system.

Speaker 2 (00:58):
So they got to recreate it right.

Speaker 1 (01:00):
But now Staples doesn't have a throat pause, so I
have to go to five below to get the floaties
to cut it to make us, and then I have
to get a jump rope to make the like it was. Y'all,
don't look at her stuff. I don't know what the
programs called, but it's a whole schedule. My wife can
look and see with homework they got to due pro programs, projects.

Speaker 5 (01:20):
All of that type of stuff. We missed that one, bro,
and we got six kids, we missed that one. So
when you're taking them to soccer and dance and all that.
So when she came home, she said she had a project.
I was so tight, but I couldn't be that tech
because I just get it to my parents. Many a
times I had to go get glue, gorilla glue, and
then I couldn't. I was nervous to let the nine
year old mess with the gorilla glue because I was like,
a finger's gonna be stuck. I seen when you get

(01:41):
to that girl online with her hair, so I had
to help. So it was a long night doing the project.
And she's if our teacher's listening, she better get an ad.

Speaker 1 (01:48):
You should be final projects, right what they call them
end of the year projects. I don't know what they
call them.

Speaker 4 (01:53):
Some things just don't change.

Speaker 6 (01:56):
I've done this, you know, in two Weeksine ain't.

Speaker 4 (01:59):
Even do no project. He get put out. That's cool.

Speaker 2 (02:02):
But yeah, so that's what I was doing late last night.

Speaker 5 (02:04):
I'm glad it was done to due to tomorrow because
tonight she'd have been on her home.

Speaker 1 (02:08):
Come on to the Nick.

Speaker 5 (02:09):
It's today, it's do today. Yeah, But if it would
have been due tomorrow, she'd have been on own. Because
I'm watching the Nicks and my daughter's projects and taking
the Knicks.

Speaker 1 (02:16):
First three minutes, I need to see Winby on his ash. Y'all. Okay,
somebody on the Knicks gotta run through Winby's chest this morning.
It should have happened last game, you know, for mushing
jail and brunch into the ground like that. But in
the first three minutes, somebody gotta run through his chest.

Speaker 2 (02:29):
I'm with you.

Speaker 1 (02:30):
What's that big sinner they got sitting on the bench.
Put him on what's his name, I don't know, party?

Speaker 5 (02:37):
Put party in for no reason, okay, just to run
throughs And I agree with you. Yeah, I don't want
to see nobody get injured. But he needs that one
to the chest.

Speaker 1 (02:47):
We know you can't. You can't push your best player
to the ground like that like it's nothing. And every
time I watch it, I'm so mad. None of the
Knicks players did nothing like yeah, man.

Speaker 2 (02:57):
He got mushed. It was like a little fould. He's like,
mush to the ground and start laughing.

Speaker 1 (03:01):
Don't. I don't want what don't complain when it happens
to night, okay, because them and was outside of the
stadium putting it on the Spurs. That was outside, and
y'all got mad at But I was outside when them
is on the court this morning putting it on nbas.
I don't want to hear nothing that was outside, right,
I don't want That's why they was mad get The
people outside was mad because they know that y'all let
them do that the brunt.

Speaker 2 (03:19):
You didn't do nothing.

Speaker 5 (03:20):
The next is usually about that business like the Knicks
ready to fight. They didn't outside.

Speaker 1 (03:25):
It's not too Robinson should be Mitchell Robinson. Uh, Mitchell
Robinson definitely a little bit. No, No, Mitchell Robinson should be.
All I know is tonight put what's his name huck
y'all see getting some minutes. You know what that's for.

Speaker 2 (03:44):
And that was starting them. I would starting them to
the spurs.

Speaker 1 (03:46):
What it is, Start him, put him in real quick, start,
lay them out, get back on the bench.

Speaker 5 (03:52):
All right, Well, let's get the show cracking. We have
Dynasty spur Locked joining us this morning.

Speaker 1 (03:57):
He's the first black woman at NASCAR.

Speaker 5 (03:59):
That's right, Yeah, Destiny, Yes, Destiny, Destiny. Yeah, she'll be
joining us. She's from Richmond, Virginia. She'll be joining us,
and like Charlamagne said, she's the first black woman in NASCAR. Also,
Nick Grett will be joining us. He has a new
album called Smile. Will be kicking with him in a
little bit. We got front page News next, and get
it off your chest.

Speaker 1 (04:18):
Eight hundred five eight five one o five one. If
you need the vent, call us up right now. Get
your ass up. As Wednesday, the middle week, it's the
breakfast Club come morning. What an inclusive record, man, everybody
gets represented. Okay, scammers and boosts deserve a little shout
out to Okay out everybody with herpees. Chlamytee told man,
I appreciate you all listenership as well.

Speaker 4 (04:38):
She didn't say that in that's home.

Speaker 2 (04:40):
No, but I'm just saluting them.

Speaker 1 (04:42):
I'm sleuting underrepresented you from the ninete hundred.

Speaker 2 (04:47):
This no more, these was making a comeback.

Speaker 1 (04:51):
All the folks out there with her peees, just a
lot of them, Okay, right now, I appreciate you, Colu
bumps everybody with her fees.

Speaker 2 (04:58):
Man.

Speaker 1 (04:58):
In a couple of weeks, sure a couple of people
got crabs. No, all right, morning everybody. We are the
breakfast club. Let's get in some front page. Now, start
off with sports. Like I said, tonight is game for
eight thirty ABC. The Spurs take on the Knicks at
the Garden, and we got to win this. I want
winby on his ass in the first three minutes. I mean,
the nick should went out, you know, I said it's

(05:19):
Nixon six. I thought, I think the Spurs are gonna
win Game three. They did, and they'll win Game five
if they If the Spurs win tonight, I don't know
what's gonna happen in this series. I'm telling you that right.

Speaker 5 (05:27):
And this is the cheapest I've seen ticket prices, so
I mean cheap. Well I wouldn't say cheap, I wouldn't,
but they're the latest expensive for there.

Speaker 2 (05:34):
Three thousand?

Speaker 1 (05:34):
Do that is not cheap.

Speaker 7 (05:38):
Rich?

Speaker 1 (05:38):
No?

Speaker 4 (05:38):
No, no, no, no, no thousand.

Speaker 2 (05:41):
Yesterday was eight thousand. Yes, the cheapest the prices have
been at, and.

Speaker 4 (05:45):
They may come down even more.

Speaker 1 (05:46):
They will come down. I think they will come down
a little. And I'm glad all the rich people won't
have to pay thousand. They only got to pay three thousands. Okay,
SLEUTHI off like I'm all the rich people with herpes.

Speaker 6 (05:54):
Out there, all the scamming as rich people with herpees,
all right, and a couple of crabs.

Speaker 2 (06:01):
Hello, what's up?

Speaker 8 (06:02):
Me?

Speaker 7 (06:02):
Me?

Speaker 8 (06:03):
Good morning you guys.

Speaker 9 (06:04):
How y'all doing this?

Speaker 1 (06:05):
Googar Brown?

Speaker 6 (06:08):
Good morning.

Speaker 8 (06:08):
So we start this morning off in Texas, where a
jury has found Carmelo Anthony guilty of murder and the
stabbing death of seventeen year old Austin Metcalf. Now, Anthony,
who was nineteen years old, was sentenced to thirty five
years in prison after the jury deliberated for less than
three hours. Now, this case stems from April twenty twenty five,

(06:29):
a confrontation at a high school track meet in Frisco, Texas,
where prosecutors say Anthony stabbed Metcalf during an altercation under
a team tint after rain sent students looking for cover. Now,
jurors had the option to convict Anthony on the lesser
charge of manslaughter, but instead shows murder. I asked defense
attorney and Harvard law graduate David Otanga about the jury's

(06:51):
decision to go with murder instead of manslaughter, and this
is what he told me.

Speaker 10 (06:56):
I still feel like manslaughter fit more perfectly, just off
of what I've heard and Carmelo Anthony did not have
a criminal record, was a three point eight GPA like
for and I believe he was captain of the football team,
track star like he was a good kid up until
this point, so it kind of seemed like it was

(07:19):
more reckless. This was a pocket knife, which it's being
reported a three inch blade. I think the whole thing
was five inches, and it was just one one wound.
He just reached out and stabbed one time, so it
wasn't like he stabbed over and over and over and
then you know, fled and even then you know saying,
is Austin gonna be okay? To me, that doesn't sound

(07:43):
like the words of the intent of somebody knowingly trying
to kill somebody else. But it seemed to fit more
the narrative of what potentially happened where he might have
been defending himself.

Speaker 2 (07:54):
Was it reckless?

Speaker 10 (07:55):
Yes, and it was with a knife, and it did
end up, you know, causing Austin met Captain to lose
his life. But to me, it just didn't seem like
that was the intention of Carmelo Anthony.

Speaker 1 (08:06):
That's a very important distinction because I didn't watch the
court case, but one thing I kept wondering about was
why did Carmelo Anthony feel like he needed to have
a weapon on him in the first place. But when
you say it's just a three inch pocket knife, that
makes a lot more sense.

Speaker 5 (08:18):
I mean, let me just you know, because we've been
talking about this case a lot, but let me just
ask you again. So the incident that happened, they were
at a game and started to rain, right, and there
was a tent, I guess the rival team's tent. He
went under the rivals team tim Carmelo went under the
rivals team tent and one of the boys pushed him,
and that's when the altercation occurred.

Speaker 1 (08:37):
Yes, in a.

Speaker 8 (08:37):
Nutshell, Yes, in a nutshell.

Speaker 1 (08:41):
He didn't just walk in the tent and somebody pushed him.

Speaker 2 (08:43):
Now, well that's why they pushed him.

Speaker 8 (08:47):
Well yeah, And to the defense, they brought a witness
to court who basically testified or they were trying to,
you know, introduce that he was he was invited into
the tent, that's what they were saying by maybe a
mutual contact or someone that they both knew, and that's
why he ended up being over there.

Speaker 11 (09:04):
But it was a rain delay.

Speaker 8 (09:05):
And so they said that kids did that all the time.
They would, you know, get out the rain and come
over to the other person's tent.

Speaker 1 (09:10):
And so as somebody told him to leave, and then
there was an argument that ensued.

Speaker 8 (09:14):
One of the brothers told them to leave, an argument ensued,
and that's when the confrontation happened.

Speaker 4 (09:18):
Absolutely.

Speaker 8 (09:19):
Now during the trial, Anthony did not testify. The defense
they called six witnesses, something that many people following this
case they're now questioning, giving the seriousness of the charge
and the self defense claim. Now, of course we've been
talking about this, as you said, en being a strong
national attention. Anthony is black and Metcalf, who was white,
and there were no black jurors that were seated on

(09:40):
this panel. You know, I spoke to civil rights attorney
Lee Merritt, who lives in Frisco, Texas, about the makeup
of the area, the political climate surrounding the case, and
he describes the area as deeply conservative and parts of
the area basically still have a like a Jim Crow mentality.
And I asked him whether they're he believe there could

(10:00):
be grounds to appeal, and this is what he had
to say.

Speaker 12 (10:03):
Let me be the first to say the phrase ineffective
assistance of council. That is the most popular rounds for
appealing this kind of conviction, and here the assistance of
council was completely ineffective. I think that they made the
mistake of believing that the court could handle it. And
this is how the court handled it. They said, no
cameras in the room. There will be no cameras in.

Speaker 2 (10:26):
The court room.

Speaker 12 (10:27):
There was very low publicity. A lot of the video
evidence that we knew what was out there in this
case was not made available to the public, and that
should have given the defense some consternation. They should have
been intimidated by the idea that the prosecutor and the
court was able to essentially try this case in a
black box.

Speaker 2 (10:46):
We need public eyes on this.

Speaker 12 (10:49):
Otherwise, places like Colin County who are still stuck in
the nineteen fifties and Jim Core segregation, that kind of
atmosphere will show up in the sentencing. I think that's
we saw here.

Speaker 1 (11:01):
Horrible man. Don't let temporary feelings lead the permanent consequences
kids Like I don't think his intention was to kill
lost in either. But where are the adults? Yeah, Like,
I mean, you know, we know kids sometimes don't have
the best conflict resolution skills. Where are the adults in
that moment?

Speaker 5 (11:16):
I mean he was he was at what age nineteen?
He was at seventeen. I mean, he's at a football game.
There's kids track me, tracked me, people were everywhere, Like
if you ever go to those means, there's there's teens,
his parents.

Speaker 2 (11:28):
There's kids everywhere.

Speaker 1 (11:29):
Like it's it's a very situation.

Speaker 9 (11:33):
It's a very very satis.

Speaker 8 (11:35):
And I just want to say really quickly that I've
been talking to his father, and his father just said that,
you know, to please continue to keep us and everyone
involved in your prayers as we navigate this this challenging journey.
So just you know, wanted to to share that such
a tragic on both sides, both sides.

Speaker 1 (11:52):
Life was lost in Austin Carmelo Anthony going to prison
for thirty five years like it just a temporary, you know, moment,
led to permanent consequences for two individuals. It's sad, man,
very sad, all right.

Speaker 2 (12:03):
The latt is front page News taking me.

Speaker 5 (12:05):
Me, everybody else, Get it off your chest. Eight hundred five,
eight five five one. It's the Breakfast Club. Good morning.

Speaker 1 (12:13):
This is your time to get it off your chest.

Speaker 2 (12:16):
Eight hundred five one.

Speaker 1 (12:18):
We want to hear from you on the Breakfast Club.

Speaker 2 (12:21):
Hello. Who's this?

Speaker 3 (12:22):
Good morning. It's roj from Washington, DC.

Speaker 2 (12:25):
Good morning, get it off your chest.

Speaker 3 (12:28):
Good morning, Charlemagne, Good morning, Envy, Good morning, Jess.

Speaker 4 (12:32):
I love you, j Just I love you too.

Speaker 3 (12:35):
Oh my goodness. So I want to be really quick.
The two things that I want to get it off
my chest as I get my little one ready for
school this morning. Is one, the gas prices here in
the nation Capital is trashed still, and with the weather
being hot and you need an air and all of
that going on, you definitely gassed me in your car
and that's ridiculous. And then second is these parents pick

(12:58):
up and drop off lines. In the beginning of the year,
they're like courteous and they're you know, letting the kids
cross the street. Now it's the end of the year
and everyone's ready for school to be over. They are
honking the horns, they are putting they hazards on, jumping
out in the middle of the street.

Speaker 1 (13:12):
And I'm like, okay, just what are we doing for
everybody a little bit more mad because of them gas
gas prices and everything else high At the beginning of
the year, people didn't feel like that.

Speaker 5 (13:21):
But them lines be crazy. I'll be in them lines
they be crazy.

Speaker 3 (13:24):
Yeah, no, definitely no. And those are the two things
that I just want to get off my chest as
I'm getting ready for well, getting ready to take my
little one to school and get in the madness. I
even have to arrive ten minutes early to pick up
and drop off, just to kind of avoid some of
the craziness, just you know, just to have a smooth transition.

Speaker 5 (13:43):
Don't you hate when you in that line and you
waiting that line patiently and somebody try to cut you
off to get in front of you.

Speaker 3 (13:47):
You want to get out of oh Man, or or
you dropping off, So you got a good spot, and
then somebody pull behind you and block.

Speaker 2 (13:54):
In yep, yep, yep, yep, and me I'm like, but
where I'm.

Speaker 13 (13:57):
Supposed to go?

Speaker 3 (13:57):
And they looking at you like you in the way,
I'm just like again, no, But those are the two
things I wanted to get off my chest. Just can
I say one more thing before I go? Yes, I
wanted to say, first of all, I really enjoy you
guys as a whole. I sit and watch in tune
in every day. I feel like the little cousin in
the living room. I'll be definitely tuned in.

Speaker 1 (14:17):
So you've been watching on Netflix?

Speaker 3 (14:18):
Yes, yes, I'm in. I'm on Netflix every day. I
watch it right before I even get up to take
my daughter to fool. She slip right now, I didn't
even get her up yet, That's what it is. And
then when I get back in from dropping her off,
I'm rewinding from where I left off and picking up
from there. And then also just I purchased your book
on Amazon as an audio book and as a mommy myself.

(14:42):
I love it.

Speaker 6 (14:43):
I identify a lot with the book Helpful.

Speaker 1 (14:49):
Go pick up just the book Tell Definitly Parent, available
everywhere you purchase books now. Thank you for watching on Netflix. Man,
because just told everybody, don't nobody.

Speaker 2 (15:01):
I did not good job, just talking to good job ess.
Get it off your chest?

Speaker 5 (15:06):
Eight hundrenk five eight five one five one. If you
need to vent, hit us up now. It's the Breakfast Club.

Speaker 1 (15:10):
Good morning, right right, ray Yo, Charlotte Man, Jasey, what
up are we lying? This is your time to get
it off your chest?

Speaker 2 (15:17):
I got an indoor pool door poo.

Speaker 1 (15:19):
We want to hear from you on the Breakfast Club.

Speaker 14 (15:21):
Get on the phone right now.

Speaker 2 (15:22):
He'll tell you what it is.

Speaker 4 (15:23):
We lie.

Speaker 2 (15:25):
Hello, who's this?

Speaker 12 (15:27):
What's up?

Speaker 1 (15:27):
This is all rock rock from break City. What's happening
with it?

Speaker 2 (15:32):
Off your chest?

Speaker 1 (15:32):
Rock?

Speaker 14 (15:33):
Yeah?

Speaker 15 (15:33):
I want to talk about I was the first one
to say the morning Breakfall Club.

Speaker 1 (15:38):
What are you doing?

Speaker 2 (15:38):
Good morning?

Speaker 15 (15:40):
Yeah, I want to talk about. Nobody talks something every
time leads the White House. He talked this boy. Yes,
he does, at least about the minimum of two million
dollars every time you leave a White House.

Speaker 14 (15:52):
And when he went to the game.

Speaker 15 (15:53):
Yesterday, I mean the other day, that was like three
million dollars.

Speaker 1 (15:58):
Extra security, the barricade and the police, extra secret service,
all that I told you you don't care about us.

Speaker 5 (16:04):
Now we definitely have to pay for all that we
fit that whole bill ro But who you got tonight?

Speaker 7 (16:09):
Right?

Speaker 2 (16:10):
Yeah, that's crazy.

Speaker 1 (16:13):
I got New York. I got the Knicks too, Man.
Nixon six baby Nixon five?

Speaker 2 (16:18):
Hello, who's this?

Speaker 1 (16:19):
Ain't winning? In five?

Speaker 2 (16:19):
Nixon is winning?

Speaker 12 (16:20):
And five.

Speaker 1 (16:22):
Nixon six winning Nixon.

Speaker 14 (16:29):
Five love respectfully.

Speaker 16 (16:31):
I want to tell you why I'm blessed, black and
highly favored. My daughter brought my first granddaughter into the world.
Her name is and why the initials are in why?
I don't know if I got that from you v
taking New York, but talking to my granddaughter, and why
go into the congratulations.

Speaker 1 (16:47):
Congratulations, gratulator. You don't want to say the whole name.

Speaker 14 (16:50):
No, my daughter won't let me.

Speaker 2 (16:53):
Respect. She shouldn't congratulations the love you.

Speaker 14 (16:58):
But I definitely want to say thank you to jeff Ja,
Me and Rome hooked up. I'm still on my White
Dad matter an interview with Rome at the end of
the month. So I want to say thank you, Jess.
I appreciate you your heart.

Speaker 4 (17:08):
No problem.

Speaker 6 (17:08):
He is very excited to sit down and talk to
you about all things father.

Speaker 4 (17:12):
So I appreciate you for that podcast.

Speaker 16 (17:14):
Don't love, No, it's love, It's love and dy I
want you and Charlamage, Charlamage, I said you a mini movie?
Did he send you that many testimony movie?

Speaker 14 (17:22):
Just okay? Well wat Charlam please check your d m
Jale University did a mini testimony movie about my single
four hook Walk. I would love for you to watch it.

Speaker 1 (17:34):
I will. I watched it this weekend.

Speaker 14 (17:36):
I have some advice for all Spurs.

Speaker 2 (17:38):
Then what's that.

Speaker 14 (17:41):
Spurs jersey down? A fab fifth as down?

Speaker 16 (17:45):
I want want in your period with those Spurs caref
no jerseys nothing.

Speaker 2 (17:52):
Listen.

Speaker 1 (17:53):
I need somebody on the next tonight to treat wimby
the way that those Knicks fans treated some of those
Spurs fans. Uh for Game three after the game, that.

Speaker 2 (18:01):
Was the right get locked. They shouldn't beating those Spurs
fans just wearing the jersey. That's not right. That's not right.

Speaker 5 (18:08):
Then you know they paid their money to watch to
watch the game, they paid for tickets.

Speaker 2 (18:11):
There's no way in hell that nobody beat.

Speaker 1 (18:15):
But we talked about basketball. I want Bey on his
ass tonight. And you can't have it both ways. And
but you can't know, you can't want Remany's getting paid
millions of dollars, dude walking They just got beat. That
energy that it was, but that energy that was outside
of the stadium where you had them enforces. We need
that the night on the court put one on his ass.

Speaker 6 (18:37):
Don't even want Winby to get hurt like them people, I.

Speaker 17 (18:39):
Want to get hurt, hurt of the night.

Speaker 1 (18:41):
I don't want nobody to get hurt, but you need
to feel a little bit by the way y'all say
getting hurt. I saw some of the Knicks fans getting
their ass with like, let's not say they act like
New Yorkers was winning. Like I saw somebody in Nick jersey.
He had to go grab a stop sign and defend
himself because it was wailing on his That was Nix
on Nicks, though, that was I don't know what it was.

Speaker 2 (18:57):
You don't know what that was that was. I can't
say that.

Speaker 1 (19:00):
I just saw one due with the nixa jersey and
somebody else was in playing clothes. But either way, I
know the dude the Nick jersey was getting his asked.
I'm getting asked, So I ain't gon sit there and
act like all the Knicks fans was just out here
whipping ass was not But.

Speaker 5 (19:12):
Just remember, we go to a lot of different cities
to watch our teams playing a lot of different cities.
We don't want that, We don't we we don't one.

Speaker 1 (19:18):
More city for the rest of the year.

Speaker 2 (19:20):
But we don't want that. We don't want Santonia whipping
this out. What's up, Lauren?

Speaker 6 (19:24):
Good morning, guys. Later we do in the van and
what you'all talking about? Game four tonight and people have
a lot of questions, Uh, good morning. Will Trump be
there tonight?

Speaker 2 (19:34):
No, nobody get into it.

Speaker 9 (19:36):
Watch parties and how that's going down because they are
back tonight.

Speaker 2 (19:39):
They limited it a lot though, Yeah, can break that down.

Speaker 9 (19:41):
And Stephen A.

Speaker 6 (19:42):
Smith, so he responded to Trump in all of this madness.
So we got some answers for the people plus us
steven A's response.

Speaker 2 (19:48):
So we'll get to that, all right, we'll get to
that next. It's the breakfast Club. Good morning.

Speaker 14 (19:51):
What are you going.

Speaker 1 (19:55):
You particularly of bringing the energy to mainstream radio or
black radio sources.

Speaker 2 (19:59):
Trust you hear that.

Speaker 4 (20:00):
An I'm the.

Speaker 9 (20:01):
Homegrownd that knows a little bit about everything and everything the.

Speaker 1 (20:05):
Latest anything you ask the questions that need to be
on the breakfast clubs.

Speaker 6 (20:10):
Little brown girls look at you and go, I want
to be like you, l L cool bay L. I
don't even know if I like you. Yes, give me
another hour, all right, y'all. So Game four is going
down tonight. The Knicks are going to be playing the
Spurs again at Madison Square Garden, and now will Trump

(20:31):
be back in the building?

Speaker 7 (20:32):
Know that.

Speaker 6 (20:33):
I saw Shams who's a sports reporter, say that it's
because of scheduling conflicts and other things. But I think
it's just I mean, robber, do you want to come back?
It's too much going on right like? So that's not happening. Yeah,
but it was just a lot this last time. But
I did see two people were having conversations about how
the uh, the watch parties.

Speaker 9 (20:52):
Will will go down here in New York.

Speaker 6 (20:54):
So there will be watch parties that will take place
for Game four outside of Madison Square Garden. Now, of course,
there's going to be security measures because we saw all
of the stuff that was happening after Game three, and
there's going to be a lot of people expected to
beat these watch parties.

Speaker 1 (21:09):
But the fact they say stuff it was fan going crazy. Yes,
police officers got beat up, they destroyed cars.

Speaker 2 (21:16):
Yes, that's crazy.

Speaker 6 (21:17):
So I'm Donnie tweeted yesterday that there are going to
be watch parties, but they will be ticketed, and you
know they're trying to, I guess, contain the amount of
people that can come back.

Speaker 9 (21:23):
I still think it's going to be crazy everywhere regardless.

Speaker 2 (21:26):
This is going to be security like when the ball drops.

Speaker 1 (21:28):
Yeah, but they should have that anyway. If thousands of
people outside of Madison Square Garden, they should have that regardless.
But I don't think people realize how much those watch
parties do for the surrounding businesses in that area. Because
you had thousands of people who can't get inside the garden,
they frequent all of those restaurants and all of those bars,
everything around the garden. So it stimulates the economy. Man,
those watch parties aren't the only prime If people getting

(21:50):
hurt though, and could possibly be killed, they got to
make sure they protect the public as well though. So
that's that's why they're they're limiting tickets and things like that.

Speaker 9 (21:56):
Yeah, they're saying it's going to be ticketed.

Speaker 6 (21:57):
You must have a ticket to attend the watch party,
and these may only enter through access points on certain streets,
the west side of sixth Avenue and West thirty third
Street for those who are here.

Speaker 5 (22:05):
And why do they do that for restaurants? I wonder
like you have a reservation, like because there's restaurants there.

Speaker 6 (22:10):
I'm not for sure from what I'm looking at. They're
just talking about what's gonna happen in front of Madison
Square Garden.

Speaker 1 (22:15):
All I know is I won't be on his ass
in the first three minutes after what he did the
jail in Brunston last game. It should have happened last game,
but somebody got to come in there and give him
a big old hack with you.

Speaker 2 (22:25):
He should definitely be honest.

Speaker 4 (22:26):
Is he really strong?

Speaker 1 (22:28):
No?

Speaker 2 (22:29):
I mean he's an NBA play so he is strong.

Speaker 4 (22:30):
But they're stronger players.

Speaker 2 (22:32):
They're stronger players.

Speaker 1 (22:33):
He low light mass.

Speaker 6 (22:35):
Well, you talked about the Watch parties and the energy
that they bring yesterday.

Speaker 9 (22:41):
Stephen A.

Speaker 6 (22:41):
Smith was for Last of Days has been having a
conversation about the fact that the Watch Parties couldn't go
down because of Trump and Trump being the reason that
Game three was lost by the Knicks. Now, for those
of you guys who don't remember Stephen A had this
to say originally about.

Speaker 9 (22:56):
Donald Trump ruining or being the reason that that the
next lost.

Speaker 4 (23:00):
Let's lose.

Speaker 2 (23:01):
If it causes the New.

Speaker 13 (23:02):
York Knicks to lose to Night, I'm blaming him. I'm
blaming the President of the United States. I'm gonna stay
on that, and damn it, I hope the GOP lose
votes because of it. If we lose Tonight, I'm gonna
be against them or I'm telling you that right now,
you better not lose the Knight's game, and we better
not lose the Nights game. I've been fair minded down
the middle as an independent for.

Speaker 2 (23:22):
The long time.

Speaker 13 (23:23):
Hell hath no fury like Stephen A scored. If the
New York Knicks lose to Night, I'm gonna be in
their ass like back pockets, like White or Rice. I'm
telling you that right now, we bet not lose the
Knight's game. We were rioting, we were flowing, and this
man gonna sit up there, shore up to the.

Speaker 2 (23:38):
Guard in the night.

Speaker 1 (23:39):
I mean, you gotta be kidding me.

Speaker 13 (23:41):
You got people got a short four or five hours
before the damn games.

Speaker 1 (23:48):
I just want to know who has their back pockets
in their ass every time I hear that confusing, like
why you.

Speaker 2 (23:56):
As this morning crazy? But he was right. It did
mess up, but that wasn't the reason they lost.

Speaker 5 (24:02):
And I hope that the NBA has a conversation with
these rests because we could all agree the last two games,
these refs have been horrible.

Speaker 4 (24:07):
Yeah, it ain't been bad.

Speaker 1 (24:09):
It wasn't just the refs. Man Cat didn't have a
good game either. Jelbridge didn't have a good game. Jalen
Brnston didn't have a good shooting game. Like like, I
hate when people say the players didn't play well lost,
but also the last two games, the refs were horrible.
They were horrible the second game, they were horrible. In
the third game they were hard, made a lot of calls.

Speaker 2 (24:25):
And it made up.

Speaker 1 (24:26):
But Cat scores twenty five and Michel's scores twenty they
win that game.

Speaker 2 (24:29):
That's but there was a lot of bad calls.

Speaker 6 (24:31):
So Trump at that. Remember Trump responded to steven A.
Smith and said that Steven A. Smith had a low
IQ and j sh run for president dumb. Yes, well,
steven A. Smith responded, he talked a lot about the
points that you guys just brought up the game and
how the players played, but he also responded directly to Trump,
doubling that doubling down.

Speaker 9 (24:48):
In addition to all of that, that Trump ruined the game.
Let's sack a listen.

Speaker 18 (24:51):
Our president showed up in New York City last night,
and needless to say, what I feared would happen ended
up happening. The New York Knicks lost, and obviously I'm
blaming him. Why am I blaming him, ladies and gentlemen, It's.

Speaker 2 (25:03):
Very, very simple, because the President disrupted.

Speaker 18 (25:06):
Imotiona I've said this on many occasions over the last
twenty four hours, and I'm saying it again. The man
messed things up. Number one New York Knicks ever won
a title in the night since nineteen seventy three. At
that time, our president was twenty six years of age.
He was not a toppler, He was not a child.

Speaker 1 (25:22):
He was there.

Speaker 18 (25:22):
He was there in seventy when Willis Reed walked rot
the tunnel. He was there in nineteen seventy three when
Walt Clyde Frazer dropped thirty plus in a game seven.
He knows, over the last fifty three years, we haven't
had a moment to celebrate since that period.

Speaker 2 (25:35):
In time. He knows exactly what New Yorkers have been
through and he didn't care.

Speaker 1 (25:40):
I didn't listen to the old stephen A. Smith rant,
but that sounded too pleasant, like that, don't sound like that?

Speaker 2 (25:45):
What do you say?

Speaker 1 (25:45):
He was gonna bring the raft and the fury, and
we've seen Steven a go way hard on people. That
was too pleasant for Trumpet because you said that if
they was gonna lose, you was gonna be in his ass,
like right on Rice backpacket. Yeah, okay, it's not like
he was up in his ass just now.

Speaker 6 (26:01):
Well as to be honest, he responded across platforms, but
he also talked about the fact that he says he
called out President Trump. He says that Trump has been
running from him. Let's say a listen to Steven Asmith
on Trump running from him.

Speaker 18 (26:12):
You want to talk about IQ, I could say I
put my IQ up against yours any day of the week.
I could go one better. I could ask you why
you've been running for me the last year, since I
wanted to talk to you.

Speaker 2 (26:25):
I could ask you to debate me since you think
you that dude.

Speaker 18 (26:29):
Okay, we can go a myriad of ways with all
of this. But I'm not gonna let you off the
hook because none of that is important. I do appreciate
the fact that you caught me a nice guy because
she don't tell anybody, But I actually am a very
nice guy until your tug at me a little bit,
and then after that I got to show my other side.

Speaker 6 (26:45):
Nah.

Speaker 1 (26:45):
I listened to Stephen energy. I wanted you know what
I mean, I needed I needed him to give Trump
that lebron energy.

Speaker 5 (26:51):
This is a great country. You could just go out
the president and say whatever you wanted and he could
go back.

Speaker 1 (26:56):
Well, who says you can do that? We don't know
what the We don't know what the just put the
cut and Steven doing that are gonna be yet?

Speaker 6 (27:03):
That was that was from first take. But Steven, they
did respond on his own platform. Yeah, And I feel
like he has on his own platform, he takes more
time with ripping into the fact that Donald Trump is
just not a good He does a little bit more
over there.

Speaker 1 (27:16):
But I do feel you don't playing none of that.
You play all the pleasant stuff.

Speaker 6 (27:19):
But I do still feel like it wasn't what you're
what you're saying, like I don't I don't feel like
he went in as much as we assumed that he would.

Speaker 1 (27:26):
I ain't got nothing compared to you. Ain't playing for
me this morning.

Speaker 6 (27:29):
I just lost Listen, we played what we had, uh
And in the next hour we'll be back with the latest.
And we're gonna talk about Lebron being titled by Time
as the athlete of the century.

Speaker 4 (27:38):
Damn you that century is.

Speaker 2 (27:42):
He's not the athlete. He's not. We'll discuss and the
next latest to me, but we'll discuss. It's a lot
of athletes the century.

Speaker 1 (27:51):
Yeah, that's a long time.

Speaker 2 (27:53):
It's a long time, Michael Jordan.

Speaker 5 (27:54):
But anyway, all right, Page News is next, and don't
go anywhere. It's the Breakfast Love, Good morning morning everybody.
You all to Breakfast Club. Let's get in some front
page news now. Tonight again is game for this Burs
take on the Knicks at the Gardens a thirty pm.
And like everybody's been saying, Wemby needs to feel the raft.
The fact that he mushed Jalen Brunton on the floor

(28:15):
like that, I mean, even Draymond Green.

Speaker 2 (28:17):
He said, if that was Steph Curry, if he was playing,
and Steph.

Speaker 7 (28:20):
Curry not for one second thing he pushed him down,
and none of the guys on the Knicks team did
anything do not for one second think that didn't matter.

Speaker 2 (28:30):
Oh that matter.

Speaker 7 (28:31):
Jalen Brunson set up for himself there, but nobody else
with Steph Curry was standing up for himself right there.

Speaker 2 (28:35):
And I just washed Victor Willon and take his hand
in the back of Steph Curry.

Speaker 7 (28:41):
I'm probably gonna get thrown out right and it may
cost us game three, but game you have done what
was the thing you said to that hollow hoops the
count I'm gonna crush those Oh yeah, you would have
done that absolutely. Like by the way, you're not you're
not pushing Steph Curry by the back of the head
down to the ground. And I'm seeing Josh Hart was like, Yo, no,
you'll get right in there and you make something happen,

(29:02):
because guess what, I may get thrown out of game
three because you just you're not doing that. But when
I come back for game four, you gotta deal with me,
and you know you gotta deal with you.

Speaker 1 (29:11):
You gotta get in his ass tonight first three minutes.
Somebody need to be in winby assf likeast.

Speaker 2 (29:22):
What's that mean?

Speaker 7 (29:23):
Me?

Speaker 9 (29:24):
Good morning?

Speaker 11 (29:24):
And be Josh Charlamagne, how y'all doing this morning?

Speaker 8 (29:28):
Good morning, So we start this hour in Washington, where
House Republicans have passed a seventy billion dollar immigration enforcement
package that will fund ICE and border patrol through the
rest of President Trump's term. The bill it passed by
just two votes and now heads to the President's desk
for his signature. The funding fight comes as immigration remains

(29:48):
one of the most decisive issues in the country, with
Democrats raising concerns about detention centers, enforcement tactics, and accountability,
while Republicans argue more resources are needed to secu you're
at the border and carry out deportations. And meanwhile Trump's
borders are Tom Holman, he's warning New York could soon
see a major increase in ICE operations. So Holman says

(30:11):
he's preparing to send quote more ICE agents than you've
ever seen to New York after Governor Cathy Hogel signed
new measures limiting cooperation between local law enforcement and federal
immigration authorities.

Speaker 19 (30:23):
Let's listen, she signed the legislation anyways, so I made
her a promise. You're going to see more ice agents
you ever seen in New York City. And it's coming.
I just reviewed an operational plan. I'm not going to
tell you exactly when is going to happen, but it's coming.
I'm keeping my promise. We're going to send more ICE
agents to New York because you took away the efficiencies
of safe for rest in county jails.

Speaker 18 (30:44):
So todder looks like Congress is going to finally pass
that seventy billion dollar immigration bill.

Speaker 2 (30:49):
It's not going to have that red tape.

Speaker 1 (30:51):
So tell me what are the funding? Well, y'all going
to pay for booing Donald Trump at the game the
other night.

Speaker 8 (30:59):
Yes, well, Holman says, if local police won't help ICE,
federal agents will simply increase their presence on the ground.

Speaker 4 (31:07):
So that's where we are.

Speaker 9 (31:09):
No timeline as.

Speaker 8 (31:10):
Of yet, but as you heard, he said that he
promised that that is something that he's working toward and
staying in Washington. Another high profile name is now being
pulled deeper into the ongoing fallout into the Jeffrey Epstein file.
So co founder or Microsoft co founder Bill Gates is
expected to appear before a Congressional panel today as lawmakers

(31:32):
continue reviewing documents tied to Epstein's network and connections to
some of the most powerful men now Republicans on the
House Oversight Committee. They requested that Gates testify after his
name appeared multiple times in documents released during the Justice
Department's Epstein investigation.

Speaker 9 (31:49):
The Gates, for you know, has not been accused.

Speaker 8 (31:51):
Of any wrongdoing and has repeatedly said his relationship with
Epstein was strictly tied to philanthropy. The lawmakers are continuing
to examp and why role influential figures maintained those relationships
with Epstein even after his two thousand and eight guilty plea.

Speaker 9 (32:07):
Now the closed door interview.

Speaker 8 (32:08):
It comes as Congress continues to dig, you know, into
those connections, political connections, business and tech, including past scrutiny
involving you know, former presidents. So we'll see what happens
that is expected to happen today on Capitol Hill.

Speaker 1 (32:21):
I just always wonder about stories like this man, because
you know, if Bill Gates was some type of entertainer,
probably a black entertainer, this would be front page news everywhere.
You couldn't escape the story. But when it's somebody like
Bill Gates just this you know, white tech guys, it's like, yeah,
he's he's all over the Epstein files and he's testified
to day. But it's just like a blip on the radar.
Even if it's a blip, it ain't even a blip. Yeah,

(32:42):
people probably would even hate it if you didn't report it,
just not Meemi.

Speaker 9 (32:45):
Yeah, a lot.

Speaker 8 (32:46):
There's a lot happening with that, and I don't know,
I feel like we got to keep the Epstein files
in the news because there's just so many other things
happening and it's very important. And lastly so for anyone
who's ever gone out to dinner with friends and you
end up stuff doing the math at the end of
the day, at the end of the dinner, Apple says
it's trying to make that whole situation easier. So the

(33:07):
company they just announced a new iPhone feature that lets
you point your camera at the receipt, tap what you ordered,
and automatically send payments through Apple Cash.

Speaker 9 (33:17):
So, for an example, if you got.

Speaker 8 (33:19):
The burger and the fries and your friend got lobster
and cupcakes, the phone can now split it up for you.
So this is coming right in the middle of social
media's having this etiquette debate right now.

Speaker 11 (33:30):
Should people split the bill?

Speaker 4 (33:31):
Should everybody split the bill?

Speaker 9 (33:32):
Evenly?

Speaker 8 (33:33):
Or just pay for what they ordered, and so Apple
apparently caught on to that, and they said that they
are trying to help that conversation go smoother by helping
you guys, if you go out to dinner and.

Speaker 4 (33:43):
Love they don't have to love it, love it.

Speaker 6 (33:47):
For somebody to come no, because I hate for somebody
to come to a big group dinner, right and then
be like oh oh at the end, you're like, are
we going to do card?

Speaker 9 (33:57):
Or can I pay you for this?

Speaker 1 (33:58):
Before?

Speaker 5 (33:59):
You order twenty dollars? The fries three dollars and I
got one soda four dollars?

Speaker 1 (34:03):
You need my prime? Why do you need that before that?
I mean, if you're pulling out your calculator.

Speaker 2 (34:07):
To do Yeah.

Speaker 6 (34:09):
But you'd be surprised how many broke ass people come
out expecting for a friend to pay for their ish.

Speaker 5 (34:15):
No, you know what it would be that you know,
like somebody that drinks a lot of dinner and they'd
be like, let's let the building. They had ten drinks
and you ain't had one.

Speaker 1 (34:22):
Yeah, which I should know that before anybody puts something
in their mouth, who's taking care of what?

Speaker 7 (34:27):
You know?

Speaker 1 (34:27):
What you got in your pocket? So if you know
you ain't got no money.

Speaker 2 (34:31):
That's the people don't know how to act.

Speaker 4 (34:33):
They wage Charla.

Speaker 1 (34:34):
If you're in a group with setting with people, you
should like, Okay, who's paying for all of this?

Speaker 11 (34:38):
Like us before?

Speaker 1 (34:40):
Yeah, who's paying? Because if I'm paying, you know, it's
gonna be a little different, that's the truth. But if
you invited me out, it's a little bit different. If
I say you don't come have drinks with me, come
in with me, I'm expecting for you to pay for
but I don't want to assume. But you know, I
think you can make all of that. You can figure
that out for you. Even put some in your mouth okay, pause, Yeah,

(35:02):
you keep putting things in your.

Speaker 2 (35:03):
Mouth today, all right, thank you?

Speaker 1 (35:05):
Put in your mouth the nineties?

Speaker 2 (35:06):
What's stock case?

Speaker 1 (35:07):
What's wrong?

Speaker 2 (35:10):
Heard my business.

Speaker 1 (35:17):
Even talking about asses this morning and putting things in
his mouth about on everything.

Speaker 2 (35:22):
As this guy's lighting. Ask this guy's on his ass,
this guy's.

Speaker 1 (35:25):
In his ass, put beyond his ass? Okay.

Speaker 2 (35:27):
Then you said light ass he's like, and you said,
I want to put something on his ass.

Speaker 1 (35:31):
I said, man, you know what, God, that's why you've
been doing it since the nineties. Stop you ever wonder
how even got all them carts. That's why father in
his throat. What's the last father to be mad at him?

Speaker 16 (35:42):
He's like.

Speaker 1 (35:44):
Daddy called you, come on, said say one time?

Speaker 2 (35:49):
What I mean that? One time I got the eric?
Remember I got that area, I got an aard, damn mane.
It was the left side, left side, left side. What
do you call you?

Speaker 1 (35:57):
This is the eighties? Now you know what he's saying.

Speaker 2 (36:00):
You know what we call me? Came on, I came
on with the errand he let me see. He said,
what are you? You can't say that. I can say
what I want to say. All right, all right, Bob Man,
all right, that is from Page News.

Speaker 1 (36:16):
Now when we come back, thanking me me, thank you.
When we come back, artist Nick Grant will be joining us.
His album Smilers out now. It's the breakfast Club come morning.

Speaker 2 (36:24):
Everybody is envy, just hilarious charlamage. He did, we are
the breakfast Club longer roses here as well.

Speaker 5 (36:30):
We got a special guest in the building. Indeed, his
new album Smile is out now. Ladies and gentlemen, Nick Grant,
welcome in the full house today.

Speaker 1 (36:38):
Yeah, it's the first time you got a four house.

Speaker 2 (36:44):
About halfway, remember man, and he came back again.

Speaker 1 (36:46):
Remember yeah, say you're right, you're right, But no, Lauryd
wasn't here in all things, Lawyer wasn't here.

Speaker 2 (36:51):
How are you my brother?

Speaker 17 (36:52):
I'm doing good?

Speaker 1 (36:52):
Man shouldn't be better. First track on the album is
called another Classic. What defines a classic?

Speaker 2 (36:58):
Can you? Can you say that you the classic? No,
you can't.

Speaker 20 (37:01):
That's just it was sarcasm. And the title just because
of my you know, my, my, my two piece. Two
albums before that was the Sunday Dinner album. You know
that was like, you know, my magnum opus into the game,
and you know, people like really respecting that I can
make a body of work.

Speaker 17 (37:17):
So yeah, that was just sarcasm, just to play on words.

Speaker 6 (37:21):
Are you said now the title of the album smile?
Are you telling the world to smile or are you
talking about yourself?

Speaker 20 (37:26):
I'm telling myself to smile because last year was very,
very hectic, a lot of a lot of ups and downs.

Speaker 1 (37:32):
Last year.

Speaker 20 (37:33):
I lost three people last year. That's a sister, my
cousin young school, I don't know people school, and I
lost the childhood friends. So it was like me going
through that and still having to navigate the business. Just
staying sharp related.

Speaker 1 (37:49):
It's funny. I mean, I know both you all from Walter.

Speaker 20 (37:51):
Bro Yeah, everybody related. It's so small. Yeah, I grew
up with school wow wow.

Speaker 1 (38:00):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (38:01):
And now are you talking about it like your loss
and going through it on the album?

Speaker 20 (38:04):
Absolutely? Yeah, absolutely. My sister being like the main person
who was like she moved me to Atlanta. She came
to get me from my grandma. She moved me to Atlanta,
and yeah that was like, you know, my mother didn't
raise me, so that was like my mother figures, so
it was like super close, you know. So yeah, you
know that's and that stuff is like very difficult to
talk about, but you know, I just feel like somebody

(38:27):
in the world, older, young, is going through the same thing.
You know, it'll be criminal for me to not speak
about it.

Speaker 1 (38:34):
And doctor image you have on your page, because I
see a woman on that did you want to quit?

Speaker 5 (38:41):
Because sometimes, you know, people look at things and be
like I did this because of my sister, I did
this because of my cousin, And now that they're not here,
I don't know if it's going to fulfill me the same.

Speaker 1 (38:50):
Man.

Speaker 20 (38:50):
I've always been very persistent I mean, you know, I've
been here a lot of times and you know, been
knowing you guys for years. So you know, it's other
things that made me want to quit and not you know,
just give up just the business in general. But in
a weird way, this kind of made me like keep
going for sure. It just kind of like I can't
stop now. I'm so deep in.

Speaker 6 (39:10):
It's like you got a song one there call Your
Price tax On. It kind of talks about a lot
of the things. It's like you want the success and
you want to be able to kind of move on
from certain things, but then there's a lot that comes
with that, like nothing in life is free, and nothing
is free.

Speaker 20 (39:24):
Shout out West Side Gun Young Chris too, to guys
that I just look up to as musicians and all this.

Speaker 17 (39:30):
So yeah, man, it's just that battle, that back and forth,
you know, that back and forth.

Speaker 20 (39:35):
You want all of these things, and especially when you
come in in and again in the game, you want
everything and.

Speaker 9 (39:40):
It's so open eyed and excited and there.

Speaker 20 (39:42):
You know, I said that in one of my records,
like I came in the industry a wid eye child
with no surprise. They molested my style because It's like
I had all of these things aspirations I wanted to do,
and you know, when you're younger and you see that
and people see you like, want it, want.

Speaker 2 (39:58):
That, and they have access to it, you did it?

Speaker 17 (40:03):
Oh my guys, you're not lying.

Speaker 1 (40:09):
People.

Speaker 2 (40:11):
I mean, I don't even mean it in that way.

Speaker 1 (40:13):
What did you mean talking?

Speaker 2 (40:15):
Did you mean it? He understood what I was saying,
for sure?

Speaker 1 (40:19):
For sure?

Speaker 2 (40:19):
So yeah, the executives that can take advantage of that.

Speaker 20 (40:26):
And if you don't have a certain amount of stability
in your spirit and you know, integrity.

Speaker 1 (40:31):
You know, you can get swayed.

Speaker 2 (40:32):
You know, you've always been labeled the lyricists too. Is
that a compliment or is that a box.

Speaker 1 (40:37):
Man? So that's an amazing question.

Speaker 20 (40:49):
I love the label lyricists, of course, of course, just
just from the people that I grew up listening to
to pos Denis and the jay Z's. But now it's
like we're in we're in a certain era where people like, oh,
we don't want to hear that people.

Speaker 1 (41:01):
You know what I'm saying.

Speaker 17 (41:02):
It's like people don't want to think people don't you know,
So that comes with it too. So yeah, I just
think it's not the cool thing to do today, be lyrisist.

Speaker 2 (41:12):
You know, I don't really say.

Speaker 1 (41:13):
I think sometimes you're respected for bars, but sometimes that
keeps people from seeing the full artists, or you might
do a record that.

Speaker 20 (41:21):
It might be some turn ups that you actually like,
this is unfamiliar for me, Like I'm not they don't
want to see you in a certain space. But you know,
it's the duality of artists, like we got to try
and do everything, you know what I'm saying. So that's
what your favorite artists do. And if you don't allow
them to grow and do that, you know, it kind
of stunts hip hop. It kind of stunts your position

(41:42):
in a way where you can't like be progressive in
this in this thing for real, So what what.

Speaker 2 (41:47):
Are you doing that? No, what are others doing that?

Speaker 1 (41:50):
Maybe you're not doing because Kendrick is a lyricusist, right,
A Drake is a lyricus It's a Coal is a
lyricist for sure. While all these people have had different
commercial success, they're all lyricus. We just saw Jade after
Root's picnic give a soliloquy of bars that everybody's talking about, Like, man,
that's so crazy.

Speaker 20 (42:07):
We just had me and one of my friends just
had this conversation and he was like, Yo, you know
the Big Three is like what was selfish in a
way because when you look at all of these different artists,
when you look at the Kendrick Lamar's and Jay Cole's
and you know, the Drakes. With Drake it was Lil Wayne.
With Cole it was jay Z where Kendrick it was
doctor Dre. He was like, you know, lyrically and lyricism

(42:29):
is like a boys club. So if you have a
certain level of talent, you have to be ushered in
by people that we already love and respect. That kind
of makes it easier to you know, it makes your
music more palatable and people open their ears a little
more once somebody.

Speaker 1 (42:43):
Else brings you in.

Speaker 9 (42:45):
I think that that's kind of the conversation.

Speaker 6 (42:46):
And you was talking sure about Jay Cole and Jick, like,
how I mean, he's there, he's on the label, but
there are people who would say they feel like he
didn't support him the way he should have, even though
he's already doing well.

Speaker 4 (42:56):
But you kind of do need that absolutely.

Speaker 20 (42:58):
That goes back to fifty cent eminem eminem Jackie Dre
that goes back to that, like, you know, I'm not sure.

Speaker 17 (43:06):
It's kind of a little before my time.

Speaker 20 (43:07):
But even what I'm thinking now, it's like jay Z too,
Like we love Jay forever, but when Biggie did like this,
it was kind of different kind of change everything for you.

Speaker 1 (43:16):
Even before that it was a jazz oo. I get
what you're saying, like, yeah, that's interesting. You know what
I'm saying.

Speaker 17 (43:20):
I think that helps.

Speaker 1 (43:22):
That helped startis more.

Speaker 2 (43:23):
You was you was flirting with the TD thing at
one point or right.

Speaker 20 (43:26):
Yeah, yeah, Punches, my man, Punch was one of the
few people that like I stayed close to in the business.
But he was doing this this group thing. He was
doing this group thing, and at the time it wasn't
just like the best thing for.

Speaker 1 (43:38):
Me in that moment.

Speaker 20 (43:39):
So but he wanted you to be in one of
the groups. To be he wanted me to be in
one of the group was a room full of mirrors,
shout out to the.

Speaker 4 (43:48):
Man.

Speaker 20 (43:49):
I think a little I think a lot of it
was ego, me just being in a certain space in
my career and it was like I felt like I
was starting from from scratch again, you know, And you know,
it was it was a little bit of fear and
ego of having to go back to doing that.

Speaker 2 (44:04):
I want to ask, you know, when you do see
artists who might not.

Speaker 1 (44:07):
Be as lyrical as you or as nice as you,
but you see they have more success, does that bother
you at all?

Speaker 17 (44:14):
Nah, my race is different. I just think my journey
and my time and what I do is just different.

Speaker 7 (44:19):
You know.

Speaker 20 (44:20):
I never say what nobody deserves or what they don't deserve.
I don't know what they've been through, so I can't say,
you know, this person doesn't deserve this. But for me, man,
I'm just you know, I know I wave a certain
flag and I just gotta stay on that.

Speaker 1 (44:35):
Have you have you ever been taking off any I
remember you saying that before you got took off some records, right,
like some records from like some artists, that that future
probably could have changed a lot.

Speaker 17 (44:45):
Yeah, a few people.

Speaker 20 (44:46):
Or I was supposed to show up to a lot
of different studio sessions and it was like, don't show up,
just come come tomorrow and lay your verse.

Speaker 17 (44:55):
And you know, if it's like that, I wouldn't. I
don't even want to go.

Speaker 1 (44:58):
But don't you feel like sometimes man, that is a
part of my story, So why not tell it? Right?
I do?

Speaker 20 (45:05):
I do, but I just feel like that causes more
conflict and puts more things in my pathway.

Speaker 17 (45:10):
As to where I'm trying to get to. You know
what I'm saying.

Speaker 1 (45:12):
You believe you think people can really block nobody can
block your blessing? What's for you?

Speaker 17 (45:17):
You man, that's that's a great thing. But I've seen
so many people like.

Speaker 20 (45:23):
You know, mess up a lot of different things for
people that could advance people's careers, you know what I'm saying.
So it's like, in a weird way, Yeah, nobody can
block your blessings, but there's a lot of sensitive gangsters. Yeah,
great segue. Yeah, it's a lot of them. It's a
lot of them, man, And it's like God is gonna
give it to you in another way. But this is

(45:43):
one of the few things I've seen where people can
kind of, you know, change your trajectory.

Speaker 17 (45:50):
You know what I mean.

Speaker 6 (45:50):
You have a listening experience juring fifth at the Brooklyn
Public Library.

Speaker 4 (45:55):
Why the library? I think it's dope, But why did
you choose the.

Speaker 1 (45:59):
I saw jay Z dude something there, so I wanted
to do it just be honest.

Speaker 20 (46:06):
Yeah, I saw that and I loved his like this
whole thing he had on display with with the albums
and stuff.

Speaker 1 (46:12):
So I was like, you don't want to try something
like that library?

Speaker 2 (46:15):
What libary?

Speaker 4 (46:17):
I'll be going so when you have the listening experience right,
just so crazy.

Speaker 2 (46:31):
I just never these books anymore.

Speaker 9 (46:34):
This is great, This is great.

Speaker 6 (46:35):
But although the name of the album is Smile, right,
it's a lot of heavy things that you're talking about,
and you don't you don't think it'll be very emotional,
like how you think do you have, like how you're
gonna get used, you're gonna get how.

Speaker 4 (46:48):
You're gonna get through the listening experience show. This is
a heavy ass album and a library, So you know,
I don't think you're gonna cry.

Speaker 1 (47:00):
A lot yo, books making.

Speaker 2 (47:05):
I'm not talking about like that.

Speaker 1 (47:06):
You mean when he's performing records'stand there's.

Speaker 4 (47:10):
A lot of things on the album that's very heavy,
heavy anyway. Yeah, so yeah, you don't think about it
that it will be very emotional night.

Speaker 9 (47:26):
The paperbacks.

Speaker 2 (47:29):
No, I'm not gonna cry. I'm not gonna cry just
because but it's a real it's a real big for sure.

Speaker 20 (47:38):
Different, yes, different it is different when you you this
would be the biggest crowd that I played the album
in front of, so like to seeing them and living
being in the moment as the music is being played,
and it's like it's a bittersweet in the way because
that could hit.

Speaker 6 (47:53):
Somebody else like oh, such and such, trying to still
get through. I'm trying to navigate brief.

Speaker 20 (47:59):
And you know what I mean, And all of these
people are here for you, So it's kind of it's
like the moment of like right, like damn, this is
a beautiful moment. But we're talking about this. So now
I'm with you, but you're not crying. There's nothing wrong
with prime.

Speaker 4 (48:16):
And it's men's mental health. I don't know if you
knew that, but I know that.

Speaker 2 (48:20):
Yeah, you're still talking.

Speaker 12 (48:26):
Bad.

Speaker 4 (48:27):
Look this is probably I want to hear.

Speaker 2 (48:32):
They don't take it. Will take me serious shows.

Speaker 6 (48:38):
To yo, if I had shows in the manny, I
will come to libs like I.

Speaker 1 (48:45):
Even wrote a book.

Speaker 21 (48:46):
You know, like.

Speaker 4 (48:48):
I even wrote a book, So you know, library is cool?

Speaker 2 (48:53):
Cool?

Speaker 1 (48:54):
How do you fee when people dis people on your projects?
We're talking about.

Speaker 21 (49:00):
He's I told that.

Speaker 2 (49:02):
Cook him probably, but boy, when he here.

Speaker 17 (49:07):
He's gonna get me too for lett him do that.
I told that to get us embarrassed.

Speaker 20 (49:16):
Yeah yeah, but nah yeah shout out to side how Man,
super dope lyricist that versus crazy though that verses dope.

Speaker 17 (49:26):
But yeah, he's I told.

Speaker 4 (49:27):
Her what he was talking about.

Speaker 2 (49:28):
The snowbody's Nah, he didn't. The school.

Speaker 17 (49:31):
Yeah he ran off with the money.

Speaker 1 (49:33):
One thing you say on that record, and it's funny
because back in the day that probably would have called problems.
You said, bigger than compet bigger than the competition. They
know who the wallace And it made me think of
that when when Kendrick said he was the king of
New York line, you know, was that the mind frame musing.

Speaker 20 (49:49):
One hundred percent. I'm always in that mind friend, Like
once you don't, once you don't get the love. In
a weird way, you kind of like the bad child
that acts out and you're like, you know, not that
you're screaming for attention, but it's like, this is what
it's about. Kind of kind of helps with you know,
if you do have that energy just being just being competitive.

(50:11):
But yeah, I'm always on that. I'm always on that.

Speaker 6 (50:15):
Yeah, what is somebody like I was going to talking
about being competitive. I mentioned Jid earlier. I saw the
whole It was like the tweet. Then you went on
the podcast. I was having a conversation about you know,
you being a better rapper than Jedd.

Speaker 2 (50:28):
Is that like.

Speaker 9 (50:28):
Competitiveness or like what?

Speaker 2 (50:30):
Yeah, that our cap cap?

Speaker 6 (50:33):
So somebody had tweeted on like there's no better rapper
than Blurs or something like that than and then he
responded with the caps. And then you went to go
do an interview and it brought it up and you
doubled down on it.

Speaker 17 (50:44):
Yeah, you gotta stand on them. When once you said,
I mean, I don't.

Speaker 1 (50:49):
Think that's far fest though, and I like Jid, I
think is super dope. That reached to say, Nick Grant,
I mean that's a competitive that'd be a competitive, you know, a.

Speaker 20 (50:59):
Battle Yebody else thought that too. I thought I was
gonna get a lot of heat for it, uh, calling
me a hater or something. But not a lot of
people agreed.

Speaker 1 (51:07):
Somm What made you respond to that one, because you
could have just left that alone?

Speaker 2 (51:11):
What made you say that? Everybody playing with me? What
made you?

Speaker 16 (51:20):
Uh?

Speaker 1 (51:22):
I just wanted to do it. I just wanted to
do it.

Speaker 4 (51:24):
I was just on that.

Speaker 20 (51:25):
I just probably was upset with people just skewing certain
things because it's just silly to think, like, there's so
many people out here that can rap.

Speaker 17 (51:34):
You got the Ruben Vincent, you got.

Speaker 1 (51:38):
Plus Marco, you got.

Speaker 20 (51:39):
So many people that's rhyming. Yeah, for sure, podcast it
is dope. Yeah, so many people that rap. So to
say that is like, it's crazy.

Speaker 6 (51:51):
But you're supposed to think about yourself though, you know
what I mean. As an artist, you definitely were you
at library on stage.

Speaker 2 (52:00):
You got to you gotta.

Speaker 7 (52:05):
Yo.

Speaker 2 (52:08):
Got against the library.

Speaker 1 (52:11):
I switched.

Speaker 9 (52:14):
On the bookahole was there.

Speaker 14 (52:19):
When they come.

Speaker 4 (52:20):
I got shows I do comedy or whatever. I got shown.

Speaker 2 (52:23):
But I'm saying I would come to the libery.

Speaker 4 (52:24):
I just wanted to know why, you know why, I
never heard of the listening experience. And you know, like
you know, being in the library. I think it's hot,
it's studious, it's real, it's dope, studious.

Speaker 2 (52:35):
Appreciate it.

Speaker 1 (52:37):
I'm switching.

Speaker 22 (52:39):
I don't do that.

Speaker 2 (52:40):
Don't do it.

Speaker 21 (52:41):
No, I like it.

Speaker 6 (52:42):
Watch you're gonna start it. Watch other it's gonna be
like you need to go to the library.

Speaker 12 (52:48):
You know.

Speaker 2 (52:51):
It Yeah, that's why I got it.

Speaker 4 (52:53):
Well, then that's even better. That's what's up.

Speaker 2 (52:56):
That's what's up, ladies and gentlemen. It's Nick Great is
the BRender Slum good on it.

Speaker 1 (53:01):
Warning everybody is PJ MV Jesse.

Speaker 2 (53:04):
Larryous, Charlamagne and God. We are the Breakfast Club. Now
Underwood joined us this morning, so she's gonna be sitting
in during well.

Speaker 1 (53:10):
First of all, dropping the clues mom from Cheryl Underwood.
Cheryl is in New York City because she's doing the
View all week, and so she just decided to pull
up on the Breakfast Club real quick before she head
over there. We're not gonna have you late, Cheryl.

Speaker 23 (53:22):
You gotta know that's why I got the glam shout
out to Dale McDonald putting me together.

Speaker 9 (53:26):
So now I just got to change my clothes. So
and then listen to what they're talking about in the
Hot Topics.

Speaker 2 (53:30):
I hope we talked about the.

Speaker 9 (53:31):
Knicks and the President, President Trump, Jenks and the Knicks.

Speaker 4 (53:35):
Jason.

Speaker 1 (53:35):
Well, right now we do a segment called the Latest
with Lauren Like Hot Topics.

Speaker 4 (53:39):
It's topic.

Speaker 6 (53:40):
I got it.

Speaker 9 (53:41):
We already got through the Knicks in the and all
that stuff.

Speaker 4 (53:45):
Okay, what what where you ball?

Speaker 6 (53:49):
You particularly are bringing the energy to mainstream radio with
black radio sources.

Speaker 9 (53:53):
Trust you, I'm the home guy that knows a little
bit about everything.

Speaker 1 (53:58):
In Harry School, she'd be having the latest time thing.

Speaker 6 (54:01):
You asked the question they need to be.

Speaker 1 (54:03):
On the breakfast club.

Speaker 4 (54:04):
Little brown girls look at.

Speaker 9 (54:05):
You and go, I want to be like you.

Speaker 6 (54:08):
All right, y'all, So we're gonna start this hour with
the congratulations to Serena Williams. So she got back on
the court, Yes, And then her first game back, she
won her doubles victory at the HSBC.

Speaker 1 (54:22):
Cha yeah, coming back two days so.

Speaker 6 (54:28):
There were there was like a month ago there was
like an announcement that she was going to be coming back,
but the uh, there was like an official thing that happened,
which was like the day or two before the match
actually happened.

Speaker 7 (54:39):
Now.

Speaker 6 (54:39):
Yeah, So she scored a decisive doubles win in her
return to tennis. She paired with Canada's victory Victoria and Boco.
She's nineteen years old, in her first round of the
Championship Women's doubles at the Queen's Club in London.

Speaker 9 (54:53):
Yes, I got a question, go.

Speaker 23 (54:55):
Ahead, do you think that the row, the diet, the
injecttion is making her feel young.

Speaker 2 (55:01):
No, for real, I'm on it too.

Speaker 4 (55:02):
I'm on it too.

Speaker 17 (55:04):
I'm on that bound.

Speaker 12 (55:08):
Uh.

Speaker 9 (55:09):
It's like a GP one g l P one. Yeah,
I'm on g l.

Speaker 23 (55:12):
P one two and I'm saying something it makes me
feel young and I'll be trying to holler.

Speaker 2 (55:16):
So, look, she got.

Speaker 9 (55:18):
Serena Williams lost thirty four pounds over a year. Use
that right.

Speaker 6 (55:21):
And we were having a conversation being a producers because
one of the producers he was like, she shouldn't be
able to play because she's taking his weight loss thing.

Speaker 9 (55:27):
And I'm like, but it's not like it's not aoid.

Speaker 6 (55:31):
Yeah, but I guess because they're saying if you're lighter,
like physically and you guy, you can move better on
the court.

Speaker 4 (55:38):
That was something that understand.

Speaker 23 (55:40):
That's right, that's that's exactly more things. But it does
more things for you. I'm no longer pre diabetic. Yeah,
along high blood pressure made everything. And it makes you
feel that that food conversationists in your Yeah, you don't
feel that anymore. Also, it lessens anxiety, like if you
if you anxiously eat or you anxiously shot and it

(56:04):
makes me want to like move around better. And that's
why I thinks I'm youngins The Hawaiians were trying to
holler me, and I'll be like, for real, do you
know how? Yeah, because because I have a different swag, and.

Speaker 24 (56:15):
I'll be like.

Speaker 12 (56:18):
Talking.

Speaker 4 (56:22):
I listen, I tell you I'm not the prettiest, but
I'm the most.

Speaker 2 (56:28):
I never want to see.

Speaker 9 (56:33):
What she was doing to y Yeah, cholesterol as well too,
So that's what it does.

Speaker 23 (56:41):
It does all of that, and I'm proud of her,
and a lot of us need to be talking about
what we're doing and how we're getting in shape.

Speaker 4 (56:47):
I agree.

Speaker 6 (56:48):
Now, speaking of good health, Deon Sanders, we know that
he was battling bladder cancer. He was sat down on
g m A and he had an announcement about being
cancer free.

Speaker 9 (56:56):
Let's listen, what are you looking forward to?

Speaker 12 (56:59):
This up?

Speaker 24 (57:00):
Winning? Okay, and I'm healthy. I got my health back,
I got my swagger back thanks to depends. I got
my my me back.

Speaker 2 (57:08):
You know last year this time I'm fighting cancer. Didn't
know which way it was gonna go.

Speaker 24 (57:11):
Thank you for being the friend and the man of
God that you are to call me and check on
me and make sure I'm straight out, and thank you
for that.

Speaker 2 (57:18):
But I'm fully back now. Last year, this time it was.

Speaker 1 (57:21):
It wasn't a good look.

Speaker 4 (57:21):
But I'm thankful that.

Speaker 2 (57:22):
Uh we won.

Speaker 24 (57:24):
We fought the battle, and we won the battle fighting
cancer and it was a tremendous and a tumultuous battle.
And I'm thankful to be sitting here right now.

Speaker 1 (57:33):
What a blessing to take care of me.

Speaker 6 (57:37):
I love and Smiley and doing all the things. I
love watching them in those blogs. But yeah, shout out.

Speaker 7 (57:44):
Now.

Speaker 1 (57:45):
Still, I want to ask you something. You would you
like dating younger men or older men, because older man,
you're gonna have to deal with stuff like this.

Speaker 23 (57:51):
I talk about it in myself. I dated young and
you know, but they just met like we eating, you know.
But I like an old man. I like a old
man with a slave name, and I talk about it
in this show. Was probably gonna be in the special.
But I would date a man who wants to date me.
Age doesn't matter, race doesn't matter. I prefer a black
man because I think a black man understands that our
struggling life.

Speaker 2 (58:11):
I want to build with a black man.

Speaker 11 (58:13):
But say I'm lesbian doing hogs.

Speaker 1 (58:15):
Girl, did your DMS listen, not a smile.

Speaker 2 (58:29):
You shout this out first.

Speaker 9 (58:30):
And I was like, what you're trying to do yesterday?

Speaker 7 (58:37):
That did?

Speaker 23 (58:37):
You'll get together what I'm saying Juicy business. But but
I also saw a couple of girls Juicy.

Speaker 2 (58:46):
Was trying to and see.

Speaker 9 (58:47):
I'm not against you.

Speaker 23 (58:48):
Once you start making money and everybody start getting your
eye lines going over there.

Speaker 2 (58:52):
Matter of fact, I'm gonna help you. You're looking at cad.

Speaker 23 (58:58):
I'm gonna tag you in like wrestling. You're gonna take
this true skin with it. I'm not doing it by myself.
Juice kid is a husky boom all right.

Speaker 2 (59:07):
That is the latest wing on Charlamage wore.

Speaker 1 (59:10):
You give me a donkey too, man, listen, man five
after the hour, four after the hour. We need a
path the name Gwendolyn Roll to come to the front
of the congregation. We like to have award with her.
We gotta get Sharlata.

Speaker 23 (59:21):
Thank you so much, and thank you for having me,
and look forward to coming back. And you agree to
the movie without reading the script because we got the
script and.

Speaker 2 (59:30):
You got the money. Stop playing Good Morning up next,
it's the Breakfast Club. Good morning, May It's time for
Donkey of the Day.

Speaker 1 (59:40):
He's a bunch of donkeys the street don't get a
day called Donkey of the Day.

Speaker 2 (59:44):
It really caught me off.

Speaker 1 (59:45):
Guards you live a life where we might are talking
to based off who we may offend. You never was
saying any time you are a donkey.

Speaker 4 (59:55):
That is why Charlamage.

Speaker 1 (59:58):
Some donkey to Day's just seldom on the breakfast Club.

Speaker 2 (01:00:01):
Okay, Charlamage, we'll be giving Donkey of the Day too today.

Speaker 1 (01:00:04):
You know this is why I like, let's be in
live on Netflix, because stuff like that happens all the
time when people just be popping up, pulling up, and
you don't get to see it, you know what I mean.
But you got to see Cherylndwood this one. She'll be
joining us again tomorrow, but donkey today for Wednesday, June
tenth goes to fifty nine year old Fort to a
fifty nine year old Fort Pierce pastor named Gwendolyn Denise

(01:00:25):
Role now Pierces in Florida. And what does younger Shalla
always say about Florida? The craziest people in America's come
from the Bronxon all of Florida and today, there's no exception.
See Gwendolyn is facing five counts of child neglect with
great bodily harm after she allegedly abused five siblings she
took in the headline says and I quote pastor eight

(01:00:47):
KFC and Popeyes while her foster kids starved. Let's go
to twenty five WPBF News for the report.

Speaker 2 (01:00:53):
Police.

Speaker 9 (01:00:54):
This is fifty nine year old Gwendolyn Role.

Speaker 25 (01:00:57):
Fort Pierce Police say she's a pastor at a local
church and up until last week, served as an unofficial
foster parent for five siblings, ages four through nine, after
their father left them in her care. Two of those
kids are nonverbal and attend a special needs school.

Speaker 26 (01:01:11):
They were just left there for her to care for.
She is not a licensed forced to care parent. She
was doing a favor for somebody and what ended up
happening was the sequence of events for this was that
she neglected their childcares.

Speaker 25 (01:01:25):
According to Roll's arrest affidavit, last Tuesday, police got an
anonymous tip reporting abuse and neglect that Rolls home on
Booker Street, and when officers got there, they say they
found the home in a deplorable state.

Speaker 26 (01:01:37):
That house has two bathrooms, one and the master and
one for open use of the rest of the house.
That bathroom was completely gutted, so there was no shower,
there was no bathtub, there was a toilet that was
completely stuffed clogged.

Speaker 25 (01:01:51):
I'd already say Roll kept the master bathroom locked when
she wasn't at home.

Speaker 26 (01:01:55):
We had reports tonight, witness information that the kids were
using the bathroom in a bucket outside of the house.
That was the only way they were allowed to use
the bathroom.

Speaker 1 (01:02:06):
Now, if these allegations are true, let me take this
time on the breakfast club this morning and remind folks
what the pastor actually is. Okay, the word pasta comes
from the Latin word for shepherd. Okay. A shepherd feeds
the flock. Okay. A shepherd protects the flock. A shepherd
comforts the flock. A shepherd lays down their life for
the flock. Okay. A shepherd does not neglect the flock.

(01:02:26):
All right, and the flock would have had popeyes, okay,
the flock would have had KFC.

Speaker 2 (01:02:31):
Okay.

Speaker 1 (01:02:31):
See somewhere along the way we've gotten confused. Okay, We've
made being a pastor about you know, you know, microphones
and titles and church anniversaries and the Facebook Instagram live service.
But being a pastor isn't about how loud you preach.
It's about how well you serve. And Pastor Gwendolen's nice
role did not serve these kids well at all. Okay.

(01:02:53):
Jesus said, whatever you do unto the late of these,
you've done unto me, which.

Speaker 2 (01:02:58):
Means how you treat the vulnerable.

Speaker 1 (01:03:00):
You know that that is the ministry, okay, Not the
sermon all right, not the collection plate okay, not the
title in front of your name, is how you actually
treat people. And if these allegations are true, denying children
basic necessities okay, you know, denying them a place to
properly shower, okay, denying them chicken all right, forcing them
to use Buckets's bathrooms, and allegedly terrorizing them, abusing them,

(01:03:23):
that's not ministry. That's misery. Okay. Are you a shepherd
or wolf pastor? Okay? See, I need people to understand something.
God calls pastors to be servants. Okay. And then the first,
you know, the church isn't just the building, okay, The
church is actually the people to me, right, the church

(01:03:44):
isn't the building at all, like the church is the people.
So if you are supposed to be ministering these kids,
pouring into these kids, that's what you're supposed to do. Okay,
they're kids. Okay. There are people that can't defend themselves.
And that's why this story hurts so much, because whenever
someone claiming to represent God is accused of doing the
exact opposite of what God requires, they don't just harm people.

(01:04:05):
They damage people's faith. They damage people's trust, and they
damage people's understanding of what love and God is supposed
to look like. Okay. A pastor's job is not to
impress people with scripture, but to reflect God's character. Okay.
In God's character is love and protection and compassion, service and.

Speaker 4 (01:04:24):
Sharing the chicken.

Speaker 1 (01:04:25):
Okay, Jesus fed five thousand people with five loaves of
bread and two fish. You could have fed five kids
with a ten dollars bigger box. There is a way.
If you can't care for the most vulnerable among us,
then you have no business calling yourself a shepherd of
God's people. Please let rem Ma get pasteling. Pastor Gwendolen

(01:04:45):
roll the biggest hea hall pleae.

Speaker 9 (01:04:47):
He haw heih You stupid mother?

Speaker 2 (01:04:50):
Are you dumb?

Speaker 1 (01:04:51):
I don't know what people be thinking.

Speaker 4 (01:04:52):
Man, not really don't what Gwendolyn and she was a pastor.
I do want to see her. To be honest with you.

Speaker 1 (01:05:00):
Let me show you a phrase, Gwendolyn Man.

Speaker 4 (01:05:04):
Because the name is definitely yeah down civil rights.

Speaker 2 (01:05:08):
You want to play a game? Yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, okay,
let's play a game of guess what race? I'm right,
come on, do it on.

Speaker 1 (01:05:21):
Pastor Gwyendolyn Denise Role fifty nine years old, Fort Piece, Florida,
was accused of abusing five siblings that she took in,
wouldn't share pop Eyes a KFC with them.

Speaker 2 (01:05:32):
Guess what you want me to go first? You want
me to go first?

Speaker 21 (01:05:38):
Ahead?

Speaker 1 (01:05:38):
D J MV black damn.

Speaker 2 (01:05:43):
Pop Eyes.

Speaker 1 (01:05:45):
I ain't. I ain't need to ask you for no details, okay,
I ain't need to ask you why you thought that.
I just asked you, okay, and did that to ask
you that?

Speaker 2 (01:05:52):
Jesus Christ.

Speaker 1 (01:05:53):
Jessica Rodin Moore fifty nine year old woman named gwendolynd
Denise Role of Fort Pierce, Florida. She was a pastor.
She was accused of abusing five siblings that she took
in and wouldn't share her camc and popyves with them,
ate in front of them while they start.

Speaker 2 (01:06:07):
Oh my goodness, just what whit she is?

Speaker 1 (01:06:15):
Because you're the daughter of a pastor.

Speaker 4 (01:06:16):
Yes, absolutely not Pasac deacon.

Speaker 2 (01:06:19):
I'm sorry because.

Speaker 4 (01:06:21):
It's camps and popeye'es.

Speaker 6 (01:06:23):
She didn't want to share it. Name is Gwendolyn Denise rolled? Honey,
that's a white Gwendolyn.

Speaker 2 (01:06:27):
What's the name?

Speaker 6 (01:06:29):
Sorry, she is Gwendolyn Denise rolled? Well, that's civil rights.

Speaker 2 (01:06:35):
D j n V rights.

Speaker 1 (01:06:38):
Just hilarious. Yes, both, you are absolutely correct, Gwendolyn Denise. Wow, Wow,
civil rights?

Speaker 2 (01:06:47):
Wow worts roots.

Speaker 1 (01:06:50):
No, I don't see civil rights, but I definitely see
the struggle.

Speaker 2 (01:06:53):
She might not know we free.

Speaker 4 (01:06:54):
No, yeah, that's what I'm saying.

Speaker 2 (01:06:55):
She don't even look free. You might not know we free.
That's the chickens.

Speaker 12 (01:07:00):
She might not know.

Speaker 1 (01:07:02):
I got my chicken.

Speaker 4 (01:07:03):
Now, you was gonna hit the field for yourself. Cheer?

Speaker 12 (01:07:07):
This is that is?

Speaker 21 (01:07:09):
That is?

Speaker 1 (01:07:13):
Yes, you look like she may not know we free?

Speaker 4 (01:07:19):
Now she don't even look free.

Speaker 2 (01:07:22):
Damn, this got a last week. Oh my goodness, I
hate this show. I hate this show. No, God, all right,
thank you for that dog in a day. Now when
we come back, Destiny spur Lock will be joining us.

Speaker 5 (01:07:38):
She is the first black woman and ASCAR, so we're
gonna talk to her next. It don't go anywhere, right.
We go from that to this is the breakfast slogan.

Speaker 2 (01:07:46):
Morning Morning. Everybody's d J n V, jesse Lyria Charlamagne
the God. We are the breakfast Club.

Speaker 1 (01:07:52):
Lorla Ros is here as well. We got a special
guest in the buildings. Indeed, Justiny Spurlock, welcome.

Speaker 11 (01:07:58):
Thank you here.

Speaker 2 (01:08:00):
How are you feeling this morning?

Speaker 4 (01:08:01):
I feel good.

Speaker 11 (01:08:02):
It's not too early, so we feel good.

Speaker 16 (01:08:04):
Got up?

Speaker 11 (01:08:04):
No, why would I have to throw up?

Speaker 9 (01:08:06):
Why throw up?

Speaker 6 (01:08:07):
Because I was an article where you were about to
do your debut, your race, and you turned it was like,
I think I'm about to throw up.

Speaker 22 (01:08:13):
That's hilarious because I was so nervous, Like that was
my debut and I've worked so hard to get to
this point. So it's like I'm here finally and it's like, okay, nervous,
but once I get in a car, I'm good.

Speaker 2 (01:08:23):
I thought she was trying to tell everybody was pregnant.

Speaker 6 (01:08:30):
Your coach Phil Horton, he was saying, how like that
moment showed him how special you were because you're so accomplished,
but you're still nervous in the moment.

Speaker 4 (01:08:36):
Absolutely Well, for.

Speaker 1 (01:08:38):
People that don't know, she was the first black woman
to race in NASCAR Motorsports racer And how did you
get into racing and your love of cause.

Speaker 11 (01:08:44):
It's my parents' fault, I would say.

Speaker 22 (01:08:47):
At one, before I could even walk, they got me
a Barbie jeep, so I was like, okay, this is cool.

Speaker 11 (01:08:52):
I turned three.

Speaker 22 (01:08:53):
I got on the back of the motorcycle with them,
and I'm like, yeah, I think I'm gonna do something
like this. My grandfather is the one who introduced me
into nas car at like an early age six twelve
somewhere up in there, and I was like, I want
to race.

Speaker 11 (01:09:05):
I didn't think it's really going to happen. Fast forward.

Speaker 22 (01:09:07):
I started drag racing motorcycles because my godfather, and then
I was like, okay, we can really take this to
the next level. All these opportunities came for me to
be able to race.

Speaker 11 (01:09:16):
A NASCAR but they all failed. But now we're here,
so it's amazing.

Speaker 2 (01:09:21):
Wow, that was a fast story.

Speaker 1 (01:09:22):
I know it took longer than that, but that was
so So let's talk about some of the pitfalls that
you had to go One being black, two being a woman,
So break those thewn yes.

Speaker 22 (01:09:31):
So as you know, like you said, it's so many
things that you can say I have against me because
so supero they are. I love that to be able
to get into NASCAR, you kind of have to be
born into it or you have to have a lot
of money. So I didn't have either those. So I
literally had to figure this out as I'm going. You know,
I've had teams that said, hey, come on, let's do it,

(01:09:52):
and then things fall through. But I'm just glad I
never gave up because I promise you it was times
where I'm like, forget it, but I kept going.

Speaker 11 (01:10:00):
That was my perseverance.

Speaker 1 (01:10:01):
Being the first is always celebrated, But does it ever
feel like extra pressure?

Speaker 8 (01:10:05):
No?

Speaker 21 (01:10:05):
I love that.

Speaker 22 (01:10:06):
Everybody asked me that do I feel pressure? I don't
because being the first was never my focus. It was
me doing something that I love. I just happened to
be the first and had a great team with me
to make it happen.

Speaker 6 (01:10:18):
People, do you have a look up to anybody in
the NASCAR world, motorsport world, anything like that?

Speaker 22 (01:10:21):
So when I was little, Dale Earnhardt was my go
to because that was my poppy's favorite, you know. And
then I love the DuPont card that what's his name
Jeff Gordon was in because it was colorful.

Speaker 11 (01:10:34):
So I many kids, I'm like, yeah, I'm gonna do that.
But yeah, that's really it growing up.

Speaker 1 (01:10:38):
Yeah, you feel like people talk down to you or
feel like you don't know the business as well, especially
being in race card.

Speaker 2 (01:10:43):
Does that happen a lot all the time.

Speaker 22 (01:10:46):
And I think they look at it because I'm new
in this space. But I've been in the motorsports industry
for over seventeen years and the first thing that someone
ever told me when I first got into the space
was learn the business and know the business before you
get into it.

Speaker 11 (01:10:59):
So I know both sides.

Speaker 1 (01:11:01):
And he was a truck driver.

Speaker 11 (01:11:02):
Yes, I still got my CEO.

Speaker 2 (01:11:04):
Yeah that's right, drive a big Joints, Yeah.

Speaker 11 (01:11:08):
O k W which is a Camworth and a Peterbilt.

Speaker 14 (01:11:11):
So yeah.

Speaker 22 (01:11:12):
I actually was a flight attendant before that stopped being
a flight intendent because I'm like, I can't race, so
but it's good money.

Speaker 11 (01:11:19):
Then I got my CDL so I can do both.

Speaker 9 (01:11:22):
I was with Delta airline. I was ADULTA to how
long were you there?

Speaker 4 (01:11:25):
I was there for three years.

Speaker 9 (01:11:27):
I was only there for like nine months really, but
you don't have a sign like.

Speaker 11 (01:11:33):
But you instantly feel.

Speaker 22 (01:11:34):
Because ADULTA training them eight weeks? How long you were
eight or ten weeks? No, we were six weeks, six weeks.
How many plans did you learn.

Speaker 11 (01:11:40):
All of them?

Speaker 9 (01:11:40):
And we had?

Speaker 11 (01:11:42):
It was like at that point, it's like twelve.

Speaker 9 (01:11:43):
Okay, I think we did eight to start. I think
we did. We only did learned. There's different exits and
it's a whole.

Speaker 11 (01:11:51):
Wow, it's the whole thing.

Speaker 1 (01:11:52):
And then you plane.

Speaker 2 (01:11:54):
Both of you.

Speaker 6 (01:11:57):
Don't really make because it's like you know, you kind
of know the thing, so you just kind of like
watching here and there, and you're just like, all right,
if you feel safe, you too. Literally, you've been doing
this over seventeen well you said about seventeen years, right,
craziest injury none?

Speaker 2 (01:12:13):
Great?

Speaker 4 (01:12:13):
Crazy? Thank god?

Speaker 2 (01:12:14):
Yeah?

Speaker 4 (01:12:14):
No, no, oh thank god.

Speaker 11 (01:12:17):
I mean so when I first started racing, I did
flip the bike, but then I got back up. They're like, man,
we need to check you out.

Speaker 22 (01:12:22):
I'm like, I'm good, but it's my bike, okay, Because
I want to keep going and the bike was fine.

Speaker 11 (01:12:26):
I was good.

Speaker 4 (01:12:27):
Yeah, a race, Yeah damn.

Speaker 1 (01:12:31):
I know you talked about being a truck driver, a
flight attendant, now NASCAR. Which version of yourself are you
most proud of?

Speaker 11 (01:12:39):
This one?

Speaker 22 (01:12:39):
Because when I look back over all the times I
should have quit, and all the things that I had
to overcome and the things I went through, to look
back now and to see that I really made it
and this is just the beginning, I'm so proud of myself.

Speaker 12 (01:12:53):
Now.

Speaker 6 (01:12:53):
Seriously, why do you think it's taken so long for
black women to be present in the space.

Speaker 11 (01:12:58):
That you're one.

Speaker 22 (01:12:59):
It takes a lot of money, so to be able
to obtain the sponsorships, to be able to get the
people that truly believe in you, because you have a
lot of people that's like, yeah, we think you can
do it, but we got to see it first. So
that's first and foremost. The money and having a team
that understands your vision and they believe in you and
push that forward so that other people can see too.

Speaker 1 (01:13:20):
You know what I realized, You know, I sponsored Roja
Caru's car and the Darlington race. There is a lot
of black people behind the scenes at NASCAR. I would
have never thought that if I hadn't seen it for myself.

Speaker 22 (01:13:32):
And that's changed over the years, because you know, years
ago you never really saw that. But thankfully we have
more people that look like us on the track and
author track, because some people they look at us and
look at people like myself and Roger and.

Speaker 11 (01:13:46):
They're like, I want to be a racer, but I
really don't.

Speaker 22 (01:13:49):
But then we're able to show them that there are
other outlets in the space that they can do as well.

Speaker 1 (01:13:54):
You think Motorsports has done enough to create access.

Speaker 11 (01:13:58):
I don't think so.

Speaker 22 (01:13:59):
There getting to that point now, especially with all the
things that they're doing with the pit crew members and
showing them as who they.

Speaker 11 (01:14:06):
Are and that they are an individual too. So we're
getting there.

Speaker 1 (01:14:10):
So are we celebrating exceptions? Are we actually building real opportunities?

Speaker 22 (01:14:15):
I think we We're definitely building real opportunities, especially for myself.
I feel like me being a woman that shows those
other little girls and boys boys that hey, like, if
she can do it, I can do it too, and
do it effortlessly and unapologetically.

Speaker 2 (01:14:29):
How personal does it get?

Speaker 5 (01:14:30):
You know, cause sometimes I'm watching these races and I'm
saying people cut each other off and tapping the back
of the car, and I'm like, after the race, you
just feel y'all want five minutes?

Speaker 2 (01:14:37):
Like how personal?

Speaker 21 (01:14:38):
Did you?

Speaker 24 (01:14:39):
Oh?

Speaker 22 (01:14:39):
It gets personal you what you see on TV when
they're in your face. Oh no, that's very much for real.
I don't do any of that because I don't got
time for it, Like I'm focused on my racing.

Speaker 11 (01:14:47):
But oh yeah, people be ready to fight for real?

Speaker 6 (01:14:50):
What's the what would you say is the most challenging
part of the race, Like the physical part or the
mental part.

Speaker 22 (01:14:55):
I would say the mental because you got to think,
we're in this car for two plus hours. You have
to make sure you're constantly hitting your lines, meaning racing
where you're supposed to each round, each lap around the track.
You also have to worry about the people around you.
You have to worry about tired maintenance, making sure you're
not wearing your tires out. It's so many aspects. You

(01:15:18):
have to think of all that and continue to race
and stay focused.

Speaker 4 (01:15:22):
And then y'all don't even get the pe No listen.

Speaker 11 (01:15:25):
So people they were like, what you gotta do when
you gotta pay, you better hold it. But some people
wear it like depends too, so I know that's right. Yeah,
I'm not bad.

Speaker 1 (01:15:32):
When did you realize you wanted to start navigating male
dominated spaces because I read someway that you used to
play organized football tackle football in Middleland High School?

Speaker 11 (01:15:41):
Yes, I did.

Speaker 12 (01:15:42):
I know.

Speaker 22 (01:15:43):
It's funny because it's like, I never looked at it
as being a male dominated thing. I just knew it
was something I wanted to do, so I did it.
So once I got into these spaces, they're like, you,
you're a girl. You're not supposed to do this, like
this is a boys sport, And I'm like, maybe to y'all,
but to me, this is something I love. So I
never looked at it any different. Corner and safety.

Speaker 1 (01:16:03):
Wow, they like they didn't give you no slack days, No,
they didn't. I love the fact that your parents put
you in it and push you to do that. That's
that's amazing because most parents be like, no, you don't
play that this boys. But the fact that they push
you to do that, that means everything.

Speaker 22 (01:16:14):
My family has been super supportive no matter what I
want to do. They've always said, destiny, if it's something
you want to do, do it. Yeah, I did I
Actually I didn't. I never started, but I did get
play time.

Speaker 2 (01:16:24):
Tell me sometime somebody laid you out.

Speaker 9 (01:16:27):
Oh in practice.

Speaker 22 (01:16:28):
This was after we made the team. You know, we
have two days. Went out there that morning. I definitely
got my bell rung. I definitely got a concussion.

Speaker 11 (01:16:37):
When I got back up.

Speaker 5 (01:16:38):
And you know what does Daddy said during that time
when you get when he see you on the floor
knocked out and you're looking at stars.

Speaker 11 (01:16:44):
So I didn't lay there. I got up and then
I started seeing the stars.

Speaker 22 (01:16:48):
So they didn't know at the time, but I mean
they know I'm tough, I'm rugged, I'm a girl.

Speaker 1 (01:16:53):
Girl, but I'm They don't want to do that though,
like you just saw it. Like I want to play football.

Speaker 4 (01:16:56):
I love football.

Speaker 11 (01:16:57):
So my dad's a huge Cowboys fan.

Speaker 1 (01:16:59):
Oh, let's goodness, you got family members.

Speaker 2 (01:17:04):
How you got.

Speaker 12 (01:17:07):
So?

Speaker 11 (01:17:08):
We just grew up watching football all the time and
they had so I was like, I'm gonna do it. Yes,
I'm from Virginia.

Speaker 4 (01:17:13):
Richmond, Virginia.

Speaker 1 (01:17:14):
You didn't have the Panthers when I was coming. I
was born in nineteen hundred and seventy eight, so my
daddy was a Cowboys fan as well. That's how. That's
how you become a cowboys fan down South.

Speaker 11 (01:17:22):
Yeah, literally, I don't know how he started that.

Speaker 2 (01:17:25):
And the lifestyle, the whole cocaine.

Speaker 1 (01:17:27):
The women know what I'm saying.

Speaker 6 (01:17:31):
What is the love like when you when you're back
at home Richmond. I know it's just a small city,
but it's like it's huge. Yeah, which you have accomplished
is so big. Being the first black woman, yes, a NASCAR.

Speaker 22 (01:17:46):
It's so cool because a lot of them they've seen
me go up through the rinks. They've seen me race motorcycles,
they've seen me race arena cars. So now that I'm
actually here and I grew up two miles from a
race stick, they love it every time I come there.

Speaker 11 (01:17:57):
Like let us know we're gonna do something.

Speaker 22 (01:17:59):
So the little kids or like like you're such an
inspiration to them. Yes, and I've done so much like
in a community too before I eve got to this point.
So now that I'm here, I've really got to give back,
Like I want to love that.

Speaker 1 (01:18:12):
What would you tell young girls? I was talking a
lot or a couple of days ago. She was drag
racing as a kid. What do you tell young girls
that want to get into it. How do they get
into it?

Speaker 2 (01:18:20):
What do they need to do?

Speaker 21 (01:18:21):
What you know?

Speaker 2 (01:18:22):
How do they know practice? How do they jump into it?

Speaker 22 (01:18:25):
So for for what I did and what I would
give to them is go to your local drag strip
wherever it is that you want to, you know, race
at you can get a car a junior drag strip,
because that's what Lotto did for like five grand. And
just find somebody, a team or someone that you trust
to go out there with you and just show you
all the ranks. But I love that you asked that
because I have a foundation call What's your Destiny Foundation?

(01:18:46):
And it's to help kids get into motorsports on and
I want to teach them things on and off the track.
So I, like you said, creating these opportunities, that's what
it's all about.

Speaker 2 (01:18:57):
How can they how can they get more information about that?

Speaker 11 (01:18:59):
So it's on my website destiny spur dot com.

Speaker 6 (01:19:02):
But yeah, what do the all your pictures, not all
of them, but a lot of pictures on you Instagram
you have the stars and your interviews.

Speaker 9 (01:19:09):
I've watched what is the significance of the stars under
your eyes?

Speaker 11 (01:19:12):
So we cannot wear jewelry?

Speaker 22 (01:19:14):
Why not in drag races so also drag Rason NHR too,
And the first time they told me that, I was like, ill,
I feel naked.

Speaker 11 (01:19:21):
I need something that's pretty. So I found my stars.

Speaker 22 (01:19:24):
But the stars are also from Avatar, So I'm like
it brings the little materia out in me.

Speaker 1 (01:19:32):
But yeah, you feel like Avatar when you d all
the time.

Speaker 9 (01:19:35):
Yes, you have to.

Speaker 22 (01:19:37):
Yeah, you have to find something inner that's bigger than
you that's gonna bring.

Speaker 4 (01:19:41):
You through for sure.

Speaker 5 (01:19:42):
Now when you ride regular on the road, you're still like,
I gotta get to what I gotta get all You're like, no, especially.

Speaker 4 (01:19:47):
When you're on traffic.

Speaker 11 (01:19:48):
We gotta get to where we gotta go.

Speaker 9 (01:19:49):
But we you know, we go to speed living.

Speaker 2 (01:19:51):
So you're a media type girl because no, no, no, no,
no no.

Speaker 11 (01:20:00):
Then I gotta keep my life.

Speaker 2 (01:20:00):
And people want to pull up to you all the
time when they see you in the car, especially back home,
so I don't. I don't.

Speaker 22 (01:20:05):
I don't live in Virginia anymore. I'm in North Carolina now,
so I'm kind of know when.

Speaker 2 (01:20:10):
They pull up to you other light and they see
they want to race you all the time.

Speaker 4 (01:20:12):
They don't.

Speaker 6 (01:20:13):
No, No, I should I have my hat on my
hoodie like agnito.

Speaker 1 (01:20:18):
Yeah, I have no idea why regular cars go up
to one hundred plus Miles're able.

Speaker 2 (01:20:23):
To fifty five in most places.

Speaker 8 (01:20:26):
So.

Speaker 2 (01:20:29):
You have no idea.

Speaker 22 (01:20:30):
Well, if you go Midwest and stuff, you can go
there's seventy five eighty out there.

Speaker 11 (01:20:34):
But you can also go to the racetrack.

Speaker 1 (01:20:36):
Well, I think it should be based on your regular Yes,
I can take a hundred to the racetrack.

Speaker 15 (01:20:41):
You can.

Speaker 1 (01:20:42):
People do it the one and do yes, Wow, most
people ain't doing that. A lot of people do that
for the people that want to.

Speaker 2 (01:20:48):
I guess, Yeah, when is your next race so people
can follow you?

Speaker 22 (01:20:52):
Okay, So next race is this Friday, which will we
will have the juneteenth Livery thanks to Fox tech Us.

Speaker 11 (01:20:58):
So yes, that's gonna be a poe can know. And
then I have.

Speaker 22 (01:21:02):
Another race coming up which I want to make a
great announcement about so on July twenty four. Thank you
so much to miss Emily Sussman. She is also the
co owner of Gotham FC and the New York Giants.
So she has a podcast called She Pivots Podcasts, and
she is coming along with me on this journey because

(01:21:24):
she believes in me, and she's going to sponsor my race.

Speaker 11 (01:21:26):
Wow, Indianapolis, amazing, congratulations. I of course, yes, it's old, Yes, yes, yes,
let me see.

Speaker 2 (01:21:40):
And is it you like you?

Speaker 4 (01:21:42):
This is all your creative control.

Speaker 11 (01:21:44):
So it's my team and yes, y'all gonna love it.

Speaker 2 (01:21:47):
Yeah.

Speaker 22 (01:21:48):
And then so I'm really big into my ancestors because listen,
they didn't get these chances that I have. So I
always say my ancestor's wildest dreams come true.

Speaker 4 (01:21:58):
And we got that on the car.

Speaker 2 (01:21:59):
So I'm really I got to see, Oh, wow, that's beautiful.

Speaker 11 (01:22:06):
Which one is that?

Speaker 17 (01:22:07):
Okay?

Speaker 2 (01:22:08):
This fire?

Speaker 9 (01:22:09):
You do a lot of colors. I saw another picture
of before the numbers or something.

Speaker 11 (01:22:15):
Like, Yeah, that was my avatar. That was when I
did my truck baby.

Speaker 9 (01:22:17):
Yeah, you do a lot of like color, this is dope.

Speaker 2 (01:22:21):
That's the same one that.

Speaker 4 (01:22:22):
Yeah, so colorful, vibrant, you know that lane?

Speaker 1 (01:22:29):
Yeah, I love it. I'm not one of my favorite
things to do sponsoring Rogers car. I'm gonna do more
of that, but that was that. Yeah, it's I'm going
to NASCAR period. That was my first time going. But
I'm like, I can see why people like enjoyed. When
I was young, my dad to take me to the
racetrack of Cooper River Dragway in South Carolina, but that
in Darlington was different.

Speaker 11 (01:22:46):
Yeah, way different. We get to some races too.

Speaker 2 (01:22:50):
Yeah, if I was I say, I would go to
one in Pocos is close.

Speaker 4 (01:22:53):
It's very close, but that's your that's the weekend of
your car show.

Speaker 2 (01:22:57):
July twenty fifth is my car show.

Speaker 4 (01:22:59):
Yeah, oh her the last twenty four.

Speaker 5 (01:23:01):
I went to Hampton, so I'm always in Hampton. Yeah, no,
touch Richmond every once in a while.

Speaker 11 (01:23:07):
I definitely got to come to one of your car
shows because I've been seeing it on my feet.

Speaker 2 (01:23:10):
One day when you're not racing, we would love to
get one of your car. He's Dominican, but still.

Speaker 9 (01:23:19):
A lot of black people events.

Speaker 2 (01:23:21):
Thank you so much for Destiny.

Speaker 1 (01:23:25):
When you're eighty years old and you're looking back, what
do you hope people say Destiny spur Lock.

Speaker 22 (01:23:29):
Changed the face of motor sports Because when I grew
up in motorspss you you didn't see a lot of
people that look like me. Maybe you did in drag racing,
but definitely not in NASCAR spaces. So yeah, that's what
I want them to say, tell them how to follow
you follow me on Dessie Spurlock everything except Facebook.

Speaker 11 (01:23:48):
That's Des Spurlock.

Speaker 9 (01:23:49):
Official and it's d Y and I d E.

Speaker 5 (01:23:51):
There we go, it's d Y S t A n
y Well, it's dj M V Little keV Charlamagne.

Speaker 2 (01:23:58):
That was violent reason. I don't condone that. Thank you
so much for joining us.

Speaker 9 (01:24:03):
Thank you.

Speaker 2 (01:24:03):
It's the Breakfast Club movie. Let's get to the latest
with Lauren wm Be coming with straight fast. She gets
somebody that knows you can't hear me.

Speaker 1 (01:24:12):
Fine detail, funny the inos on she'd be having the
latest movies, the.

Speaker 2 (01:24:18):
Biggest, the largest of latest with Lauren la Rosa.

Speaker 1 (01:24:21):
Sometimes you have sometimes you have details, sometimes.

Speaker 23 (01:24:23):
You have a little bit of every time it's the
latest port to you by top Dog Law on the
Breakfast Club.

Speaker 1 (01:24:29):
Talk to me, okay, apply your lip low.

Speaker 2 (01:24:31):
I'll shut up.

Speaker 4 (01:24:32):
All right, we talked.

Speaker 6 (01:24:34):
We talked about this earlier in the first Latest steven
A Smith and Donald Trump. Now the back and forth
ensued because steven A Smith said that Donald Trump was
the reason that the Knicks would lose all right. Now,
Donald Trump has posted on truth social and response to
steven A Smith. Smith's response that we played earlier. He said,
Steven A. Smith is an arrogant fool, a low IQ individual.

(01:24:55):
In other words, he's dumb as a rock and totally
unqualified to everything. Of running for a h political office,
or even low political office for that matter, He'd get
annihilated in a debate by the most incompetent of politicians,
Joe Biden's now fable.

Speaker 9 (01:25:08):
The performance would look great.

Speaker 6 (01:25:10):
By comparison to anything that this loud mouth huckster has
to offer, which isn't much. Within a few weeks they
laugh him out of politics.

Speaker 1 (01:25:18):
I will say, we gotta stop saying Donald Trump is
the reason the next loss. Donald Trump is not the
reason the NIXT loss. But what Trump did cause the
city to lose that night was joy and money, but
also god damn, why is huckster sound racist? Coming from the.

Speaker 2 (01:25:34):
Text me. I wasn't allowed to say that, but they
did say that. It just felt dead in it. They said,
that's what happens when you steal the joy. Said it
was like a dark vibe.

Speaker 1 (01:25:43):
That's why I say Donald J. Trump and the Jay
stands for joy killer. He took all the joy out
the city. It was such an inconvenience, that it took
the fun out of the night, and he costs a
lot of people to lose money because they couldn't have
to watch party, you know, all them surrounding restaurants, and
makes so much money. Often people, yeah, well you wanted
to huckster?

Speaker 12 (01:26:00):
Is no is it?

Speaker 1 (01:26:02):
It's a person who sells or advertise something in an aggressive,
dishonest or overly push you away. That was a great
word to use for steven I've never heard that like that,
like because a lot of people would. That's what that's
what they say about steven A. But that's the actual
definition a Huxter. Like the fact Donald knew that word
is kind of impressive.

Speaker 2 (01:26:19):
Somebody wrote that for you might have put it to
Chance Gpt.

Speaker 6 (01:26:23):
Well, look earlier, we played some steven A audio from
first take. But he also did a straight shooter with
Steve N. A. Smith and he responded to Trump. So
let's take a listen to stephen A inviting Trump to
a debate on a straight shooter.

Speaker 18 (01:26:36):
I've been trying to get with you for a year
to ask you some of these questions. If you felt
so compelled to test my IQ and you wanted debate
against me personally about the job you've done.

Speaker 1 (01:26:45):
I'm open to it. Are you we can do that?

Speaker 18 (01:26:47):
I got a challenge for you, mister president, because according
to you, you can pull off anything. You haven't ruled
out circumventing the twenty second Amendment of the Constitution to
run for a third term.

Speaker 2 (01:26:57):
If you can pull that off, why don't.

Speaker 18 (01:26:58):
You pull off me get on the debate stage with you,
with Democrats, with other Republicans without having to surrender my job.
You clearly got connections with the FCC Commission. See what
I'm not gonna do, ladies and gentleman is get into
a tip for tap with the President, calling him names
and all of this other stuff, because the reality of
the situation is, although I have a problem with him

(01:27:20):
as the president and I didn't vote for him, he's
never been unkind to me, and.

Speaker 1 (01:27:25):
As nice as he says I am, is as nice
as he was to me. Nah, Stephen, there, you gotta
go hard on Donald Trump. You got to go on
hard as on hard as Trump as you did on
Lebron but you got to do it with even less
love because he called you an arrogant fool, He called
you a low IQ individual, he said, you're dumb.

Speaker 2 (01:27:44):
As a rock.

Speaker 4 (01:27:45):
Yes, great, so you can't.

Speaker 1 (01:27:49):
You can't be out here giving him all of his
respect and kay, and he's not respecting you because I've
seen you go to hell on people.

Speaker 6 (01:27:54):
From last But maybe he's just trying to get in
the room with him. Maybe he's trying to be like, yeah,
you know, speaks to you that I'm not a damn host.

Speaker 1 (01:28:01):
But Trump had no reason to do that other than
you know, Eagle, like, there's why would he be debating
Steven X Steven, there's not an elected official and Trump
is already the president? What you debating?

Speaker 8 (01:28:12):
Like?

Speaker 2 (01:28:12):
Why would I debate you?

Speaker 1 (01:28:13):
And it makes no sense. That's a straight theater Like
why why?

Speaker 6 (01:28:17):
I don't know, he say, they've been trying to get
with him for you to do what I'm already president.

Speaker 1 (01:28:21):
I just think Steven, they got to give him a
classic Stephen a rant like you, Like I said, you've
seen him go harder on people for less.

Speaker 6 (01:28:28):
Yeah, okay, well you mentioned Lebron speaking of as we
shift gears. Uh So, Time dropped there one hundred most
Influential People in Sports of twenty twenty sixth list and
on the cover of the Time magazine. They have Lebron
James and it lists him as the greatest athlete of
the century.

Speaker 2 (01:28:45):
Years now, that makes no sense.

Speaker 9 (01:28:47):
Now, on this list there's Lebron James. Agent Wilson is
on the list.

Speaker 6 (01:28:51):
Don Staley is on the list, Caitlyn Clark is on
the list, Michael Jordan and Denny Hamlin are on the list.

Speaker 9 (01:28:57):
Mike Rubin is on the list. Steph Curry, Yeah.

Speaker 6 (01:29:00):
So Mike Rubin is it's people that have it's people
that have done things within sports too. So he's listed
as an innovator. He has built one of the most
powerful sports commerce empires ever.

Speaker 4 (01:29:13):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:29:13):
Uh so is this people of some of the world
half century or you said Lebron is the greatest of
the century. So when it comes to part of he's
part of it.

Speaker 2 (01:29:23):
I agree with So the greatest of this.

Speaker 6 (01:29:25):
There are no other there are no There aren't older
athletes listed in this whole like century conversation. It's weird
because on the on the cover he's listed as athlete
of the century and the caption they talk about quarter
century or half century, and then in the article they
have the century conversation too, But it's really just highlighting.

Speaker 1 (01:29:42):
This list, it's not like twenty twenty six to some
of the Don Stantley definitely could be on that.

Speaker 5 (01:29:50):
The last one hundred years, it's definitely Michael George. You're
talking about athlete who has more influences.

Speaker 2 (01:29:57):
Okay, the whole, the whole, und it's the whole hundred years.
I don't think. I don't think Michael Jordan.

Speaker 6 (01:30:06):
Michael wondering what we're talking about, just like n b A, NFL, Like,
are we talking.

Speaker 2 (01:30:10):
About sports Michael Jordan?

Speaker 6 (01:30:13):
Well that that What about Bruce Jenna, because remember back
in the day, didn't he win like manity for being
an athlete?

Speaker 2 (01:30:19):
Shut up?

Speaker 1 (01:30:23):
Was one of the greatest heavyweight boxes of all time.
He was who he use his platform for global social change.
That's a different ball game.

Speaker 5 (01:30:32):
But when you talk about influence, you can talk about
positive influence and just influence in general.

Speaker 1 (01:30:36):
Michael Jordan is the best basketball player ever. He's the
gold There's nobody better than him.

Speaker 5 (01:30:41):
Dan influenced, but his shoes can continue to push this
culture to another level that kids still wait online for
his shoes and he still pushes people.

Speaker 2 (01:30:49):
So when you talk about influence, yes.

Speaker 1 (01:30:53):
I do, I do.

Speaker 2 (01:30:54):
But when you talk about influence over one hundred years
in the culture.

Speaker 5 (01:30:56):
I don't think nobody influenced more culture and anything in
sports more than Michael.

Speaker 1 (01:31:01):
Well, they have the bolts they have on the radio.
Who is who's saying?

Speaker 6 (01:31:12):
Okay, all right, sorry, well they've got they bring up
the goat conversation. Lebron says, when you're talking about Michael Jordan,
Kobe Lebron, Lebron says, I'm not taking nobody over me,
There's no question.

Speaker 9 (01:31:23):
But I think Michael said the same thing. Rest his soul.

Speaker 6 (01:31:26):
Kobe will say the same thing, Magic will say the
same thing, Birt will say the same thing. Shack could
say the same thing. The late great Woke Kareem. Yeah,
the late great well Kareem. I don't think none of
us are going to take somebody else. There's a general
manager and he's eyeballing all of us in the baseline
with the number one pick, it's going to be hard
not to take me Champ.

Speaker 1 (01:31:45):
Michael Jordan's doesn't even entertain those type of conversations.

Speaker 9 (01:31:48):
Yeah, we have that audio of Hi I'm talking about
not to entertaining that. Take a listen.

Speaker 21 (01:31:53):
Whole goat term is never going to be something that
I ever will get high or low about I never
played against Oscarugbi or Jerry West.

Speaker 1 (01:32:01):
Would have loved to.

Speaker 21 (01:32:02):
Just as competitive as I am, you know, and I
actually learned from them, you know, and we you know,
paved the road to the Kobe's and the Lebron's. Right,
it's the beauty of the game of basketball that a
player after a previous player has evolved the game first.
Don't then now use that against the player that actually
taught you the game or that you learned from.

Speaker 7 (01:32:21):
You know.

Speaker 21 (01:32:21):
Look, I would love to have played against Lebron and
you know Kobe and my prime you know, I would
love to have played, you know, against those guys.

Speaker 2 (01:32:28):
But we'll never be able to know that.

Speaker 1 (01:32:30):
And you can't really have that conversation, right, Like you
it's hard to have it in basketball, But it's even
harder when you say all athletes, right, because you can
talk about a Michael Jordan. Michael Jordan's definitely, you know,
revolutionized sports marketing and branding, right, But Muhammad had Muhammad
Ali had a greater impact on global culture, civil rights politics,

(01:32:50):
like conversation, Yeah, and I think.

Speaker 6 (01:32:55):
Even Lebron in this article, he says, if you ask
people about influence, influence and most influence or more influen
want you people are gonna put the point to Jordan,
even over him, even though he'saying he would take hisself
when it comes to a certain conversations.

Speaker 9 (01:33:05):
So it is a it's a hard one to have,
but they tried to have.

Speaker 4 (01:33:07):
It in here.

Speaker 1 (01:33:07):
We are top athlete of the whole century, one hundred years.
That's a lot, guys.

Speaker 2 (01:33:11):
Yeah, I know. I don't think I know one or
two things. I know it ain't Lebron in my opinion.

Speaker 1 (01:33:15):
What about amazing the conversation he's one of them, but
he's not.

Speaker 4 (01:33:19):
He's not.

Speaker 1 (01:33:19):
I don't even know if you could put a v.
I don't know if one.

Speaker 4 (01:33:22):
That's one hundred years.

Speaker 9 (01:33:24):
Athlete, I don't know what you said, you said it,
I don't know if you do.

Speaker 1 (01:33:29):
There's no d there's just one, just one.

Speaker 9 (01:33:32):
The athlete century.

Speaker 4 (01:33:35):
Yeah, athlete of the century was.

Speaker 6 (01:33:37):
No athlete of the century Lebron James. Yes, all right,
we're wrapping up, y'all. That's today athlete sponsored by top
Dog Law. Any accident bigger, call bigger, small called top
Dog Law.

Speaker 2 (01:33:51):
All right, let's get to the mixus. The Breakfast Club
good Morning, Morning.

Speaker 5 (01:33:53):
Everybody is d J M V Jess hilarious, Charlamagne the Guy,
we are the Breakfast club slu to Nick Grant for
joining us to morning his album.

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Smiles Out Now, to the good brother Nick brahm Man.

Speaker 5 (01:34:04):
And also Destiny Spurlock for joining us the first black
NASCAR woman's.

Speaker 2 (01:34:08):
Drivers, to her for joining us as well. It's time
to get up out of here. Of course.

Speaker 5 (01:34:13):
Game four is tonight. Go ahead and beat a guard
and y'all be safe out there. Y'all get there early,
and do not beat up people who have.

Speaker 2 (01:34:20):
Spurs jersey on. That's not fair. That's not nice. No,
that's not nice.

Speaker 1 (01:34:23):
It's not if you're just beating them up just because
they're wearing a Spurs jersey. Now, if they say something
disrespectful to you or disrespect you in some way and
you have to defend yourself, that's different. Okay, But I
do know I want to see some Spurs get beat
up to Night on the court, Okay. I want to
see Winby on his ass in the first few minutes
because of that little much he did to jail In Brown.

(01:34:43):
He should have got his chest ran through during the
last game. Oh, Jailing Brunton during the last game. He
should have got his chest ran through. Hope you get
his chest ran through the night. First three minutes? Say
what's the dude name?

Speaker 2 (01:34:55):
What was the name?

Speaker 1 (01:34:56):
Huckle Hucker pock put huh on the court? Okay, give
up forty thirty seconds, that's all you need, all right,
run through and beat chess real quick. Well they're gonna win.

Speaker 2 (01:35:08):
The night, Yes they are. You got a positive note.

Speaker 1 (01:35:12):
The positive note is this, It comes from a Hotma Gandhi.
Keep your thoughts positive because your thoughts become your words.
Keep your words positive because your words become your behavior.
Keep your behavior positive because your behavior becomes your habits.
Keep your habits positive because your habits become your values.
And keep your values positive because your values become your destiny.
Have a great day.

Speaker 6 (01:35:32):
You don't even know if he's said that he did
breakfast cup, you don't finish, or y'all done up?

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Wake you up, Wake up, Wake up. Program your alarm
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