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Speaker 1 (00:00):
I don't know every day waiting click your ass up
the Breakfast Club.
Speaker 2 (00:05):
You know I'm finish for y'all.
Speaker 3 (00:06):
Done morning everybody, it's the j Envy, just hilarious. Charlamagne
the guy. We are the Breakfast Club law La roses
here as well. We got some special guests in the building.
You got the brother Black Sam Hare and also Beno
Rodel Welcome, how y'all feeling say you're running through New York?
Y'ah came in about seventy people from LA. I was like,
(00:28):
Y're gonna make LA feel y'all mad, New York feel
like LA.
Speaker 1 (00:30):
I saw a Rod Wave day Rod Waves, I seen
Black Sam. He got the whole LA with him.
Speaker 2 (00:35):
Came out man hours ago.
Speaker 3 (00:37):
You got a new project that's out today. Explain the project,
talk about the project a little bit, and and why now,
because it seems like it's been a minute. Why why
is this particular moment the time?
Speaker 2 (00:48):
I think for me, at least, it was a while
before I could even think about putting something out from
Bro and just we knew the project was already done
and it needed to come out. I was just feeling
like it was appropriate basically, and I think we was
talking to the team and the family. Everybody was like, man,
(01:10):
I think it's time for us to go, you know,
figure out the release. And so we talked to Beano
in his camp, like, bro, we've been waiting just on y'all,
it's no rush. So everybody felt like, all together, it
was time.
Speaker 1 (01:25):
I'm been sitting on these records being o because I
know y'all y'all done mad music before.
Speaker 4 (01:28):
I remember y'all having a tape back to it. No pressure,
no pressure before, no pressure though, Yeah, we started.
Speaker 5 (01:35):
Working on this before. No pressure. This was the initial
you know what I'm saying idea. We wanted to make
songs for women, you know what I'm saying, a kind
of vulnerable project. But you know, after so long of that,
you know, it's still nip hustle, being on adult. We
end up making one street record, you know, just to
have some fun and then caught that bounce and that's
that's how we ended up just you know what I'm saying,
putting no pressure out first. But yeah, we started working
on these songs like twenty fifteen, twenty sixteen.
Speaker 6 (01:55):
Yeah, so how did you guys know that this was
the project to be like, you know, the sid that
we hear after everything, Like, how was like, I'm sure
there was so much other music that you guys have
worked on and maybe that have been done already as
well too.
Speaker 7 (02:07):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (02:08):
I think something we all, you know what I'm saying,
agree to appreciate is the fact that Nip had so
much intent, you know what I'm saying, and were lucky
to just have so many you know what I'm saying,
gyms left like through text messages and things like that,
just you know, scheduling and just just ideas and you know,
his plans. So this was on schedule to be the
next release after Victory Lap, and yeah, we're just seeing
(02:30):
it through now.
Speaker 3 (02:31):
They said it was eighty percent done pretty much, So
what was the other twenty percent.
Speaker 7 (02:35):
That had to be done? Well, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 5 (02:37):
We had already sequenced, sent the project in that mixed body,
you know what I'm saying, got a few mixes, but
you know how it is in the final stages of
you know what I'm saying, like the mix and everything.
We had three more last minute records that we want
to add into the sequence and we had sent them
over and uh, yeah, what was the CARDI record done,
that was done a minute ago, like before a lot
(02:59):
of these records.
Speaker 7 (03:00):
Really yeah, yeah.
Speaker 5 (03:01):
It make that happen, make that feature happening. You know
what I'm saying. Got black Sam ear on it early,
you feel me?
Speaker 7 (03:07):
And uh yeah that was that was a minute ago.
So they got a chance to actually work with each
other for that.
Speaker 4 (03:11):
Yeah, That's how was Nips work ethic?
Speaker 1 (03:13):
Was he like a studio head, like he's stayed in
the studio and record a lot, Like did he do
things here and there?
Speaker 4 (03:19):
Like what was it like?
Speaker 2 (03:20):
Man us, who's gonna stay in the studio? Uh, whether
we got recording done always basically on how Bro felt
or you know, we used to push like man, he's
like my bro, if I don't feel it, I'm not
even gonna get in there an attempt to lay it.
So he just being there vibing a lot of times.
You know, probably no better than me because he was
spent a lot of time in there with Bro. But
(03:40):
Bro just being just go He'll go to to check
in to work, though, he'll go early. He'll be watching movies, documentaries,
just getting inspired and once he feel it, turn that
micro on it and magics happens. Immediately, but he wouldn't
force it, like, man, I don't want to. I don't
wanna It's not gonna be right. But he definitely would
spend days and nights and not leave. He'll lock in
(04:02):
and then you may lock in for thirty days and nothing,
and then all of a sudden you get just seven
to eight in one day.
Speaker 5 (04:09):
Accurate beat No for sure, Like like Nip, Man, I
see Nip. He'll stay up as long as we do,
you know what I'm saying, drink as much as us.
But he up at five am. He and push up in
the middle of the studio. You know what I'm saying.
So his work ethic was inspiring. Bro, It definitely, you
know what. It's just sparked a lot of growth in me,
just wanting to challenge myself, you know what I'm saying.
Things like that. But yeah, bro, every day it was
(04:30):
just it was constantly he calling me in the morning,
on calling him and we figuring it out. Whatever we're
gonna do. Either we're gonna get in the studio create
or go vibe about play the records we've been creating,
you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 7 (04:40):
Whatever it is, but it worked, Ethic overly for sure.
Speaker 3 (04:43):
And how difficult is it hearing his voice? Is it
refreshing like a great thing, or is it like damn,
I missed my man feeling?
Speaker 5 (04:50):
Man, you know these records aren't like before we started
going into this, you know what I'm saying, just closing
you feel me. I wasn't listening to these records, you know,
our own playing often some times out of team you
hear me playing. Somebody wanted to hear him or something
real quick. But it's refreshing to see the team get together.
You know, the same familiar faces that was there, you know,
working on the project and working on Victory Lot. You know, producers, engineers,
(05:12):
you know Black see him coming in real hands on.
It was like, you know, the fraternity, the brotherhood, the fellowship.
Speaker 7 (05:18):
You know what I'm saying. That was refreshing for sure,
right hold on.
Speaker 3 (05:22):
I was asked Black Sam the.
Speaker 2 (05:23):
Same Yeah, I think, same thing. Man. For me, it's
it's always hard hearing bro music, but then I get
happy laugh. So it's just a roller coaster emotions that anytime.
But it it did feel good, man, just I know
how much the project meant to hustle. I remember when
he gave it when he gave it to me to
listen to, Like anytime, Bro, I tell everybody, anytime you
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give me a project, I know it's done. Don't be
wanting to hear what I got to say before it's done. Like, man,
it's done. What you're thinking. So at that point I
know it's a masterpiece. And so he was proud of
this project and I'm just happy that we able to
put it out. Man to like you were saying to
that CARDI B record, we was pushing for that to
be on Victory Lap. Really Hustle was like, man, He's like,
(06:08):
now you know what this fits this project better. So
this project was slated to come after Victory Lap, and
so just the whole thing, every song in there, we
kept the same sequence. We didn't add features. I think
maybe one one or two people Man jumped on just
to elevate, but we kept it. What they put together
(06:30):
and what they did together as a whole, we kept it,
and that was very important. But to answer your point,
it feel good to finally put this out.
Speaker 1 (06:38):
When people say Nipsey's legacy, saying, what does that phrase
actually mean to you? Because you knew the man before
you know the world knew this this icon.
Speaker 2 (06:48):
I think for me, man, it's important. Hustle whole thing
was to inspire people. You know, we had multiple conversations
so many times. You know, I'm trying to be on
business or be to help this thing go forward with Hustle,
be a asset in any way. I can so all
pressure like Bro, we gotta do it, Bro with multiple
(07:08):
times like hold on, Bro, we're gonna get to the money.
That's we're gonna do that. My shit is special. This
had my stuff has to be has to inspire, And
a lot of times I'll be like all right, but
I didn't really fully get it. And so just even now, man,
seeing how inspirational he is and how many people are
inspired and continue to be inspired, I really just be like, damn,
(07:31):
this was what Bro wanted.
Speaker 1 (07:33):
What's the biggest misconception people have about about it? Because
he's become like a mythical figure now at this.
Speaker 2 (07:39):
Point, Man, I don't know, man. I think one thing
I do say is when this documentary comes out, people
love and respect Bro so much, and they probably only
know ten fifteen percent of the story. So when this
doc come out and people actually like really see I
(08:00):
think they canna be blown away, and it's gonna be
it's gonna be pandama, It's gonna be crazy, you know
what I mean. So that's our that's our focus right now.
Just don't mess this dock up because we got so
much footage and the story is there. We're just trying
to take our time and do it correctly.
Speaker 3 (08:14):
The one is it coming out?
Speaker 2 (08:15):
I hope maybe next year.
Speaker 1 (08:17):
You're saying that I've heard some legendary stories about you
in this documentary. Yeah, the money I've heard that you've
left on the table just because you want to keep
the integrity of it. I've heard some like some crazy numbers.
Speaker 6 (08:30):
Is that turning down like network offers.
Speaker 2 (08:32):
Yes, yeh, yep. I think for us, like I'm telling everybody,
it's not about money. So no matter how much was
on the table, we're not messing this up. But we're
not changing the story. And a lot of times people
you know, we had opportunities, which was good, but it
was with interior motives. Obviously it's business people wanted us
to put the doc out for a lot of money,
(08:53):
but it has a time or it got to come
by November because we're trying to launch our new network
and this ho on and then with all the research says,
you know, people don't like more than two episodes, so
this one has to be too like we're walking. I mean,
we got to do this the right way. We got
to make sure that it's told the correct way. And
(09:14):
I don't even want to talk about business. I want
to finish it and then once it's done, we'll give
that shit away for free and tripping on. This ain't
about the money player. I just want this to reach everybody,
and then this thing got to sweep awards because the
story is there till everybody. It's just on us not
to mess this up. We can't rush it. We got
to polish this diamond and you know, it's there for
the people. And the most important thing is when this
(09:37):
documentary come out, this will be another big thing for
Bro that inspires people and that's his that's his main thing.
So we gotta do it correctly. People got to see
this and just be at all and just be inspired.
Speaker 4 (09:48):
So who is the doctor?
Speaker 1 (09:49):
Is it for the day one nip fans of the
people who know his name but don't fully understand his impact.
Speaker 2 (09:54):
I think it's for both man. I think it's for
I think it's for the day ones who want to
know everything, you know what I mean. And this is
where I'm like, Man, we going eight nine episode because
we got it. I got what we got. I was
incarcerated when my niece was born, so we tracked down footage.
I never thought he even existed. We got when my
niece was born in the hospital, so I'm in at
(10:17):
it just blown away. We got hustle when he first
learned how to make beats when he was a young kid.
We got when he was in elementary. So the spring
Hill team came in and helped us just comb you
know the world, and pulled every anybody who had any footage.
So we got it. So I think the the old
(10:38):
white lady, the doctor who doesn't know anything about rap
music is going to see this documentary and see a
kid grow up gifted and gifted class volunteered to be
gifted and was tested by his teachers, and they called
my mom said, man, it's crazy. It's the first kid
that ever volunteered to be tested gifted, and he really
is gifted. And then you see him, you know, young,
(11:00):
selling dope, and then you see you just it's a journey.
So as you're watching it, you're gonna be going through
the roller coaster of emotions rooting for this kid and
to see you know him eventually Grammy nominated, and you're
just gonna be just applauding. So that's the journey that
we want to take you through this and we have
everything there be able to see it in real time.
Speaker 4 (11:19):
And you said you put it off for free and
get that shit away.
Speaker 2 (11:22):
Man, it's saying about the money. Send the money play y'all.
Speaker 1 (11:26):
Don't understand the numbers that I've heard that people wanted
for this documentary.
Speaker 4 (11:30):
That says a lot. You can give us a ranger now, oh,
I mean it's even tens of millions.
Speaker 2 (11:38):
Yeah, it was, you know, through that COVID, through that
COVID phase, it was upwards to like twenty, like high twenties,
That's what I heard. And before that, every Duvene helped
us secure like a fifteen million dollar situation from Netflix.
We ended up having to walk from it, but she
was like instrumental in helping us, educating us and like, look,
I can bring y'all right to the thing.
Speaker 1 (12:00):
And then I heard the story about something. It was
one of the screaming platform that was going to launch.
Speaker 2 (12:04):
Yep.
Speaker 1 (12:05):
It wanted to use that as the first piece of
content they put out.
Speaker 2 (12:09):
Ye Disney onyx Wow. A lot of people came in
and was supportive and was ready to go. It was
just you know, we had to and they didn't understand why.
But tell everybody our team know why. Like we had
to just respectfully like, hold on, we're gonna do this
the correct way. And so you know, we got shelved
for a minute because even the team was like, man,
we got investors like we you turned down all these deals.
(12:31):
We can't spend no more money until we know how
much it's gonna get sold for it. You're talking about
giving it away. So now we've just been coming in
and just one hundred thousand at a time of our
own money, just pushing the edit forward. But we're pretty close.
We got Alan Hughes involved right now too. He's seen
the footage. Everything happened for a reason, is what I
tell the team, because when we first was starting, we
wanted to bring him in to kind of help us.
(12:53):
He was busy on the project. I think he was
doing the part project. So he's like, man, I really
would love to I just I'm committed. And so now
he's free, so he really see the footage we had.
He like, what is going on? He's like, man, I
know exactly.
Speaker 7 (13:06):
What this is.
Speaker 2 (13:07):
So he's excited. He's on. So it's like everything you
never realized, but everything happened for a reason. I think
this is the perfect time to get it done how
we really want it.
Speaker 1 (13:16):
Yeah, and he's been at the hell of some great
West Coast stories, so that just made all the sense
in the world. Ye, well, what's the one scene a
chapter you're most excited for people to see?
Speaker 2 (13:27):
Man, it's just so many because I know my brother.
A lot of people ask me about Bro, And one
of the questions that a lot of people asked me
is like, man, when did Bro? When did he become?
And I'd be like, man, Bro was always like that.
Bro was a little kid on a bike leading us
find the ship were following him. He was in school.
You know, we went to school and watched It took
(13:48):
me like three years to be able to be like
I was handling the school. I knew everybody. He came
there in two weeks and was running the school. So
he was exceptionally everything he does, he was special, and
I think in this documentary you're gonna seem from a child.
He was just special. And one quality with Bro was
he made other people feel special. He made other people
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he always wanted to take the team with him for
the journey, educated himself, brought it back, and he just
really made you feel like anything could be possible because
you saw him do it. And then he championed seeing
other people be successful, like it was one of the
things that he liked to do. He liked to help
out and then see that little help somebody blow up
(14:32):
and made him feel good.
Speaker 3 (14:33):
I always wanted to know, you know, when Nip after
his past and you see so many people post videos
and Nip was their best friend, and they post pictures
like they knew Nip for a long time. How does
that make y'all feel When y'all know a lot of
that it's not true, and they're using Nip's name and
likeness to try to push their projects. How does that
both make you feel? Because y'all both were so close
to him.
Speaker 2 (14:56):
I think for me, you know, I just try to
let people as long as it's good, positive things, you
know what I mean? I can't I try not to
be trying to judge or try to be h feel
a certain way, and then I take a step back
and say, you know, I don't know people certain situations,
(15:18):
and I don't know everything about Bro, and so I
just I'll fact check some stuff for sure, you know,
I go investigating, fact check, But I just one thing
I know about Bro is he made everybody feel special.
The valets got they know hustle. I'll pull up anywhere
and the valets will tell me a story. Valets that
I know, a spots that he went to, you know,
anywhere I'm going, people will be like, man, you know what.
(15:40):
They'll show pictures. So I know Bro moved through life
just very respectful and very intentional about having relationships with
the car Wish guys. Everybody knew him and loved him.
So when I hear these stories, I'd be like, he could.
Speaker 7 (15:58):
True, you know what I mean?
Speaker 3 (15:59):
And what was his relationship with New York?
Speaker 7 (16:01):
Right?
Speaker 3 (16:01):
Because I remember coming up in the mixtape era and
I would be out when I was outside, he was
here a lot. He was in the clubs a lot,
he was in the streets a lot. I was like,
what is Nip's relationship with New York?
Speaker 7 (16:12):
Wise, it's so tight.
Speaker 2 (16:14):
Man Hustle loved New York. Man Hustle, Hustle, since the
kid loved music. He was adamant listener and collector of
Source magazine just all hip hop, and New York was,
you know, one of the big what can I say,
collections of music that he had. He put me up
(16:35):
on everything I listened to, and so he always with
number one. He came out here and launched mixtapes, you know.
So you know, I was watching and I was happy
he was in New York and he was out here
with Johnny Shipes and New York embraced him and.
Speaker 3 (16:49):
He felt safe, he felt comfortab because he was he
was uptown Queens Hall of like all over the.
Speaker 2 (16:54):
Place, and they embraced Broke and and that's why I
love New York so much. And I know Hustle always like, man,
you got to get to New York, bro And so
he brought me out here, He brought the whole team
out here, and we just got none of belove for
New York because of that, and Hustle, I think, not
only because he loved New York so much, because they
(17:14):
embraced him so much. It was just it became second
home to him.
Speaker 3 (17:18):
Now that's the reason I was gonna say, and is
that the reason why Marathon Burger they say you're opening
up in Square? Or break with why and tell us
about it.
Speaker 2 (17:27):
I think we got an opportunity.
Speaker 1 (17:28):
Man.
Speaker 2 (17:29):
People that hustle was close to ended up hitting us.
It's like, hey, man, we got a location on Times Square.
We believe in it. I'm like, what how much is
d rent man? You know, we can't bury ourselves. They're like, no,
we got we grandfather. Then we got a good lease.
So it's an old restaurant that we had. So I
feel like this is this is perfect like everything environment, man,
it just comes and our drops in our lap kind
(17:50):
of It's is one of the ones.
Speaker 6 (17:52):
You just smiled when you talked about bringing Marathon Burger
to New York. Is there moments where like, you're doing
things because you've the way that you've been able to
build out in carried the brand and the legacy of Nipsey.
It's been one to watch for sure, But are there
moments where you're doing things where you smile and you're like,
I know that me and him would have shared such
a problem moment about that.
Speaker 2 (18:10):
Oh, for sure, man Hustle, definitely, Man Hustle is you know,
he was instrumental in doing big things. So just us
bringing something to New York would have been big for
Bro for sure. And he was the visionary. He told
us at all times, like man, this marathon braand gonna
be big, you know what I mean? And it made
me believe that, like all right, damn it's he made
(18:33):
us read books thirty twenty two Immutable Laws of Branding,
just always told us about how important and how big
the brand could be and it could live in so
many different sectors. So everything we do, in hindsight, just
be like man Hustle just had the vision.
Speaker 1 (18:52):
What's something you learned about leadership that you never would
have understood if you.
Speaker 4 (18:56):
Hadn't been responsible for carrying that vision.
Speaker 2 (18:59):
Brother, Man, I don't know, Man, I think. I think
just for me, it's it's very important that we do
our part and make sure that we push this to
the to the to the limit man as much as possible,
(19:21):
but at the same time making sure that we don't
do anything that's not moving with integrity, especially with Bro's legacy.
And really, you know, you got to finance the campaign,
so it has to be business and Bro has kids,
(19:42):
you know, my niece and nephew. But at the same time,
just you know, we're blessed to be able to take
a step back and try to do things correctly. And
at the end of the day, everything has to inspire people.
You know, I wanted to always come back to this
is something to hustle created. This is a vision that
he had. This is the concept of Marathon brand. Like
(20:03):
I'll tell everybody when he was telling us about Marathon,
you know, I'm fresh out of prison and I'm watching
what he was doing with Bullets and Got On Names
and I'm excited. And after volume three he's telling us like, yeah, man,
I'm gonna change the mixtape. I'm like what. I'm like, Bro,
we going to Bullets and Got On Names volume twenty.
(20:23):
You got the hottest thing in the streets. What are
you talking about. He's like, man, I'm gonna change it
to the Marathon. I'm like what, And so he already knew.
He's like, man, you know the energy because we jumping
off the stage every every venue, getting in fights. It's
just going. He's like, man, I want the energy to
change in the shows. I don't like the energy that
I'm getting in. I didn't understand it, but when the
(20:45):
Marathon mixtape came out, it was just it was exactly
what he what, he what he envisioned, the energy change.
You got people walking up with resumes, You got people
tell them how he inspired them to get through college,
how he inspired them through basketball. Hustle say, and you
inspired me to hustle. So the message and from there
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became the Marathon movement with clothing, the Marathon store, brand partnerships,
and this is all from him and his vision. So
I always sit back and I'll be like, damn, you know,
he make us all believe like this this is actually possible.
But because he did it, and what I want people
to do is as big as we can take this,
I want them to realize, you know where it came from,
(21:26):
you know, Hustle. And that's the documentary so important. You
got we got footage when Hustle was young and the
hood selling dope, you know, and just everybody. And that's
why the streets love Hustle and specifically La. It's from
every hood because they know Hustle is just like them.
Hustle came from the exact situations that they came from
and that was very important for him be like, look, man,
(21:48):
I've been in that same situation that you at just
you can do it, and they saw him. So that's
very important for me, and I feel like that's the
that's that's our duty to make sure that we keep
the essence of that.
Speaker 4 (22:02):
No you can go, I've heard that too.
Speaker 1 (22:04):
Like you know, y'all know y'all turned down mad opportunities
to even sell the marathon Bran, Like you know, was
there ever a number that that made you think about it?
Speaker 7 (22:12):
Na?
Speaker 4 (22:12):
Never?
Speaker 2 (22:13):
Never. I think for us, if we brought a good
partner in that has some finance and that can help
us scale, I think that's important. But as far as
just us selling and just walking away like you can
come with a hundred billion, we ain't doing it. There's
no money. There's no level of money that can be
presented to have us walk away.
Speaker 3 (22:32):
How much more music is there? I know you drop
these fifteen records? Is there a lot more music? Is
it could be continuous dropping?
Speaker 2 (22:38):
Or you know how much I know being on BRO
got so much fire.
Speaker 4 (22:42):
Music that sounds like how did you pick impression on you?
Speaker 6 (22:46):
Yeah, because y'all are keeping into synonymous to like his intentions,
things he actually worked on his schedule. There has to
be a life. He's always like dreaming and planning.
Speaker 5 (22:56):
Well, I mean as a fan, something I look forward
to tell him about the door, something I look forward to,
and something that's dope to me is you know broken.
You know what I'm saying, Hell been on this dock
and I feel like a dope.
Speaker 7 (23:07):
You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 5 (23:08):
Aspect of it is it's so much music, you know
what I'm saying from different errors of a nit Puszle.
Speaker 7 (23:14):
You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 5 (23:15):
So I'll bro lining it up as you watching the dot.
You know what I'm saying. You got the soundtrack to
go with that time period, So you know what I'm saying.
Just as a nit Puszle fan, that's something I'm looking
forward to for sure.
Speaker 1 (23:27):
How do you know when you're honoring NIPS vision versus
accidentally finishing it the way someone else thinks it shuit sound,
especially you know when you're doing it now as.
Speaker 5 (23:37):
Opposed to Yeah, Well, for me, it's like I had
to overcome that hump of just you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 7 (23:42):
Lincoln was broke from when he first called me.
Speaker 5 (23:44):
You know what I'm saying, Like where I come from
Lincoln with Nipuszle, It's a dream come true. You feel
me as a rapper broader, You know what I'm saying.
It was just a lot a long time of me questioning,
like damn, why broke trusting me in his space like this?
Or why he letting me jump in the booth like that?
You know what I'm saying. But after you know what
I'm saying, and just every day of us doing that,
it just turned into my obligation. You feel me to
(24:05):
hold myself to a certain standard as well as you
know what I'm saying creatively and and just my execution.
Speaker 7 (24:11):
You feel me.
Speaker 5 (24:11):
So I'm just here just just you know what I'm saying,
seeing it through out.
Speaker 7 (24:16):
It's all we could do.
Speaker 3 (24:17):
How did y'all meet?
Speaker 5 (24:18):
Oh Man, Nipussle. He called me off Casey Veggie's phone
one day.
Speaker 7 (24:21):
You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 5 (24:21):
It was always like me and my brothers were like, man,
we gotta get a hustle, You feel me if we
gotta link with anybody. When Casey knew and I guess
he was at the studio with Bro one day I
see Casey calling my phone, like he called me every day,
and it's Nippussy, like pull up every day.
Speaker 7 (24:34):
We pulled up.
Speaker 4 (24:35):
After that, Why why Nip?
Speaker 1 (24:37):
Because you know, if you knew Nip and you liked
his music when he was alive, you you got why
people revered him so much when he passed. Yeah, why
then in that moment and he was like, y'all want
to get with Nip because he wasn't the biggest artist
out of out of LA by any means.
Speaker 7 (24:51):
At the time.
Speaker 5 (24:52):
I feel like it was it was. It was the influence,
it was the energy. You know what I'm saying. We're
from the same area, bro. You know what I'm saying.
It was he was the archetype.
Speaker 1 (25:01):
You know what.
Speaker 7 (25:01):
I was in high school looking up the bro. You
feel me?
Speaker 5 (25:04):
So just from where I come from, he was, man,
he was the one, the prototype.
Speaker 6 (25:10):
Do you feel like you can answer that question now
as to why, like you said, being like, why are
he trusted me? You think you can answer that now?
Speaker 7 (25:17):
Nah?
Speaker 5 (25:17):
I can't, But I know you know what I'm saying.
It was it's like because of class was you know
what I'm saying. It was around where it's like we
all kind of had the same aspirations and goals and
things like that, and I just felt like something I
see in all of us is that we was willing
to learn, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 7 (25:31):
We was willing to grow and we had open minds.
Speaker 1 (25:35):
You feel me, Sam, Do you ever feel like you're
not just protecting this legacy, you're protecting the.
Speaker 4 (25:42):
Truth about who he was?
Speaker 2 (25:44):
Yeah? For sure. I think the important thing once again
is people don't even fully understand and you will never
fully understand Hustle except if you have a documentary that
shows everything about Bro. And there's so many textures and broke.
Bro was funny as hell. Bro was you know, a leader,
(26:06):
Bro like always champion other people's success, inspirational, you know, humble.
So just seeing footage and seeing documentary and seeing you,
you'll actually be able to see the human you know,
a father, you know. Uh, Rap music is a lot
(26:27):
of times you get one side of the person, and
a lot of people that's seeing interviews from Bro and
you know they get another side. So now with this documentary,
you're gonna get the full three sixty. You're gonna see everything,
and you're gonna see you know, human life, Man, you
go through ups and downs, and you go through growth,
you go through hard times success. So I feel like
(26:48):
that's the that's the most important thing, is putting this
documentary out. And then yeah, you know, you hear so
many weird stories and this, and people saying, uh, what
was going on in the hood and all this. Man,
the documentary shows everything. Documentary show everything about what was
going on. One thing I will say, man, Hustle was crazy.
Speaker 7 (27:10):
You know.
Speaker 2 (27:11):
Hustle was not going for anything. It was gonna be
confrontational with any and everybody, and it's it's documented, you
know what I mean. And you know, I see I'm
gonna speak on one thing. I see a lot of
things people say about what I did and how I man, Hustle.
What's gonna make sure I was straight? You know what
I mean. Hustle. Hustle is gonna lead the charge. So
(27:31):
anything anything that I was doing, I was doing secondary.
Hustle was that was the one that's gonna get out there.
That's gonna sock you first. Hustle gonna get cracking first.
Hustle gonna do everything first. Our whole squad knew, all right,
we gotta do something before Hustle does for sure, you
know what I mean. So you know, I think the documentary, man,
is very important because you just gonna see it in
(27:52):
real time. You're gonna hear real stories from everybody, you
know what I mean. And that's it. That's why that's
important for.
Speaker 1 (27:58):
Me, both of y'all not to jump out the window
in this era because you can go on YouTube and
see some of the goofiest shit about you know, your
brother and just anything involved in that that situation.
Speaker 4 (28:12):
How hard is it not to get online and just
say something.
Speaker 2 (28:15):
Just for me, it was very hard. The only thing
that kept me saying is the documentary. It's multiple times
I'm hitting Steve On, I'm hitting Karing. I'm like, man,
hey call breakfast Club, hit hit it. I need to
go on the tour because I'm like, man, I'm gonna
come in here tripping and just be like man, They're
like man, just everybody like missaving for the doc. So
that's kind of my being at my you know, putting
(28:35):
it together, and I'm like, all right, once this comes out,
it's right here. You're gonna see everything. You're gonna see
when Hustle first got the deal. You're gonna see when
people first met Hustle, when motherfuckers from the hood first
met Hustle. Hustle had gold chains on bulletproof whip. We
had surveillance, uff we had spots. We was getting money,
Hustles getting money. This is what people was attracted to
(28:57):
see a young dude putting up posters and was like, oh,
I want to help you take it to the next level.
So Hustle ben a star. Hustle was like Michael Jackson
in the hood. You could pull up and next thing
you know, fifty sixty of the homies is right there.
You know, we had the shop. I used to we
used to tell Hustle, like, bro, stop pulling up in
front hanging out, because when you pull up now you
got fifty crips in the front. Nobody's coming to the shop.
(29:17):
This is not good for business. This is what this
is in two thousand and six.
Speaker 4 (29:21):
You know.
Speaker 2 (29:22):
So I think the documentary is gonna put shed light
on that and show you who Hustle Hustle was. And
for me, the most important thing is within the hood,
politics and all the shit, the thirstiest and thirstiest things happening,
and Hustle bumping heads because Hustle not going for nothing.
Now we damn there into it. Hustle made a point
(29:43):
not to leave through everything. He's like, nah, my shit
got to be right here. It's got to be inspirational
for the people. Got to be motivated from every hood.
And Hustle motivated the whole, the whole hood. Like you
know what's saying everybody in La into what people say, Oh,
Hustle wasn't that big, you know everywhere, but in La
(30:05):
Hustle was the one because people like, man, Hustle did
it ship, we could do it, you know, Hustle did
it in his hood with his homies and his brother
and his team, and we could do it. And that's
what he motivated a lot of people that felt like
or were called like unmotivatable. He motivated them and they like,
hold on, man, we can do it. They start educating themselves,
(30:26):
they start opening up businesses, they want to get record labels,
they want to mobilize, they team or they hood. And
it was like I see people all day from different
areas that supposed to be you know, beefing or not
with not cool with the hood. They got tattoos, all
money in they was like, bro, all that man, look
I got, I got all money and tatted on me.
(30:46):
I know that's because they were inspired by bro And
that's another good thing. That's just like, man, this is
this is bro.
Speaker 6 (30:51):
Gold because of because of all of that, right and
the things that you see and what you know Nipsey
stood on. Do you feel the responsibility to correct a
record when things like there was a new federal indictment
that mentioned Nipsey's name in relation to something that went down,
or like attention with him in Big U, Like when
you see stuff like that all these years after his
past and his name coming up in court documents, Like,
what's your reaction?
Speaker 2 (31:13):
Man, I think I've been I've been very vocal at
all times. Anybody from the hood or anybody that know
me or anything. Man, listen, man, Hustle was not going
for anything in any form or fashion, you know what
I mean. Hustle a lot of times had conflict with
a lot of people, multiple people, and may come up
(31:34):
in a lot of court documents when any certain people
have situations. So to me, it's just it's stuff that
we already knew. A lot of that stuff is wrong
and it's not correct. So for me, and not just
with do with everything. That documentary once again is important
because you're gonna see you're gonna see the timeline, and
(31:57):
you're gonna see what really happened. And some of that
stuff that I that I'm reading is false and I
seen myself and some of this stuff. I'm like, man,
not to speak on on certain situations or speak on
other people's situations. But for our situation, anytime there was
anything at our shop, it was a melee. Hustle cracked
(32:20):
it off and only time, and it was multiple times,
and I've been arrested for each of them, but multiple
times shot. So it's not like that multiple times shots
was fired. It was because it was already a long
melee and motherfuckers was bringing more people talking about it
wasn't no head up phase, so no, it ain't no
head ups. All right, cool, we airing it out. So
(32:43):
that's the only thing that ever went down, And it
was multiple times that happened. And you know, it was
a clear understanding, like you're gonna give niggas their head
up phase and Hustle gonna go first, whether we're telling
them not to or not, like man, watch out. And
then after that it was a structure and it was understood.
So that's not speaking on that's just on anything that
ever happened in front of our situation. It's Hustle, got
(33:05):
songs about it too, shootouts in front of shop now
it's an az like he's referencing real situations that like,
we're not going for it. And that's what everybody knew.
Everybody in the area already noticed. So anytime I hear
anything coming out from podcasters or people that speculate, and
I just laugh and be like, man, you don't, you don't.
(33:25):
You just did not know Bro. You know what I mean?
You did not know Bro at a lot of people
didn't like Bro because of that. You know, it's older people,
it's reputable people. It's people that was talking to Bro
crazy that got socked in. They shit as soon as
they said it, and it's just like it is what
you got to live with it. But that's why Hustle
is legendary in our hood and in every other hood
because the phone calls is made that it vibrates to
(33:46):
everywhere and everybody's just when they see the Hustle out,
salute Bro. It's never been done in history, but you
did it. And that's just one of the things that
you know, I sit back and laugh. Our whole team like, man,
it's Hustle, it's crazy.
Speaker 1 (34:00):
If you don't want to address this, I understand, but
what because we don't know? But you don't got a clue?
A disrecord the big.
Speaker 4 (34:06):
U because that's what the indictment said as well.
Speaker 2 (34:10):
I think you don't got a clue. Was what Bro
was going through at that time. You know, it was
a very uh problematic time for us in the streets police. Uh.
(34:31):
You know, we were trying to finance the campaign, legal
ship going on, and it was it was it was like, man,
we got one shot at this, and you know, we
was all in. And at that time, Hustle felt a
little betrayed because certain individuals were no longer aligned or
(34:52):
seeing the vision and weren't weren't understanding. He like, Bro,
like this Marathon mixtape. I'm about to drop. Man, it's
gonna change the game. I just he just got dropped
from the label. You know, my team and everybody our
team was kind of like, Bro, you lost the deal.
He like, Bro, trust me, I got all my masters.
I'm about to about to double back. They put it.
(35:13):
They put a million dollars of marketing on me and
I'm where I need to be. I'm about to double
back and we about to bang them on this independence
to trust me, so you know, I'm this my brother.
I was mad, but I'm like all right, shit, okay, cool,
I'm I'm with you regardless. And then the team and
the people that love Bro, but certain other people and
there was a lot of them who weren't really all
in like that got mad and felt a certain way
(35:36):
and was like, man, fuck this dude. And so at
that point, certain things like man, that little piece of
equipment that I gave or this or this or this,
let me get that back? So like what okay, and
was like all right, man, go ahead. And so at
that point, I feel like Hustle just was like I
had a vendetta and was like, Man, these niggas, Man,
these niggas ain't really with me, and so that you
(35:57):
ain't got a clue. Record to me was everything that
he was speaking on for multiple different people, just anybody
who didn't fully understand or wasn't really with him. He
was setting the record straight. And I remember when we
first heard that record, I didn't even I didn't even
look into the way he spelled the title. You know,
I figured that out later after we was like getting
(36:19):
into it and I was like, oh, this nigga Hustle
is crazy. But you know that's specifically just speaking on
a real time and multiple people I believe was was
was in it. I was hoping. I was hoping I
wasn't being referenced in there. I'm like, bro, I help,
you know, I'm were with you. You know I'm saying
with you on this ship. So you know, just jokingly,
but Hustle, everything you listen to on Hustle music, I
(36:42):
think is authentic and you can catch a real time.
And like I said, if Hustle not feeling, he's not recording.
But if Hustle was inspired or going through something real
in his life, he's gonna get in there and record.
And so that was just one of the moments that
you know resulted and record.
Speaker 4 (37:00):
Yeah, that's what in La Times just said.
Speaker 1 (37:03):
Uh, I guess you wanted the equipment, Nipsey didn't want
to turn it over, So then Nipsey did the record,
and then you came to discipline nip and you intervened
and stopped it from getting physical.
Speaker 2 (37:14):
That's wrong.
Speaker 7 (37:15):
So so.
Speaker 2 (37:17):
Uh, speaking on.
Speaker 4 (37:20):
Big U.
Speaker 2 (37:22):
He gave Hustle some equipment. It was an HD. Just
to clarify, he gave Hustle HD. Now me, personally, I
never liked dude like that, So I told Hustle obviously,
I'm like, fu, fuck dude and fuck that HD. We
go get wrong. Hustle like, Bro, I need the HD.
I got everything else, I need the HD. My shit
gotta sound right, all right, So he got the HD.
So in the middle of him recording the project, dude like, hey,
(37:47):
I need my HD back. I got my other artists.
I'm just trying to get these dudes deals. Basically, like
you lost your deal. To give me my HD equipment
back is his. So Hustle gave it back to him.
There wasn't nothing about trying to it. He was like,
all right, go ahead. Hustle was mad, though Hustle felt
the way. It was like, man, this nigga took took
the HD, like what's going on is trying to sabotage
(38:07):
my project And that's what happened. And as far as
I don't know about you know, I'm not gonna get
into pulling up discipline or anything like that, but I
will say anybody that came Hustles getting cracking first in
melee at all times, and once you start seeing it
(38:30):
not go that way, and and our whole squad is there,
copy everybody that love Hustle, and it's going down and
both the fats pulling up, and it's a it's a melee,
you know, Hustle, love that ship like we're gonna line
this ship up, Hustles what And that's why Hustle, That's
why niggas love Hustle. And the only time me specifically
and multiple times, if I'm getting cracking is because niggas
(38:52):
are talking about they didn't like how the lineup is
going and they're trying to get more people to come.
And now it's talking about no head up, fadse and
so at that point, all right, we are it out.
And that's that's that's not speaking on dude or dude case.
That's just me saying anything that happened at that parking lot,
and it was multiple things at that parking lot, multiple
things that I've been arrested for. And it's just in
(39:15):
things that I have not been arrested for. If anybody
really if niggas talking about it ain't no head up phase,
and it's getting aired out. And that's after the melee.
That's after we get it cracking. And that's because it
was not going Nigga's way.
Speaker 3 (39:29):
I always wanted to know when you when you came home.
Was this always the plan for you to help your
brother to get in the industry, to manage to run everything.
Was that always the plan from the door or was
it something that fell into your lap? It was like,
now I'm home, my brother dad.
Speaker 2 (39:43):
I think I remember before I went to jail, my
brother was telling me about the record label that he
created and was telling us, I want you know, we
about to have a record label, and once again made
me believe, like you know, he's reading books about uh
the cash Money deal and you know, Rockefeller's deal and
(40:08):
Masterpiece deal, and so I'm like, man, what is this
guy talking about. So he made me believe it was possible.
He's recording himself, he's putting mixtapes out, he's putting posters up,
and so I'm all in as much as I can do.
I just wanted to add a little bit of value
to what he was already doing. And I felt appreciated.
I mean, I appreciated that he came back and wanted
(40:28):
to involve me, you know, because we was all doing
the legal ship. That would have just ain't gonna work.
At the end of the day. You may you may
win sometimes, but you're gonna end up losing. So I
think he saw that too, you know what I mean,
and gave us a way out. And like I tell everybody,
that was when I went to prison. That was the
easiest time I did because I was getting updates. Bro
(40:50):
was in New York cracking. They sending me things. Man,
I'm kicking back with my feet up. I'm happy. You know,
he's out the hood, He's successful. And I think I
was in prison, I seen the Hustle in the House
video for the first time. Like man, it was just
monumental crazy, and I knew at that point I got goosebumps.
Everybody in there was going crazy. And when I got out,
(41:13):
I just wanted to make sure that I could add
value in any way. And I'm here to do whatever
is needed, and you know, I think just trying to
find my lane and figure out what I could do
to help. You know, Bro musically knew what he needed
and he knew that I was there to tap in
if you needed me, and he had management, he had
(41:39):
a good squad, and I was just there to help.
And so one of my things was the clothing. But
anything that hustle would need me, need me to tap in.
And obviously just as a brother forget business, just as
a brother I'm from from a step back, and our
other partner of Facts and my cousin Adam, just everybody
kind of making sure that the people he surrounded himself
(42:00):
with we're authentic. Then at least they knew that he
got a family and he got a team that's that
that that's gonna be looking out for his best interest,
which was important. So that was that was kind of
my role in the other team's role.
Speaker 1 (42:14):
I want to ask both of y'alls. Protecting his legacy
made grieving him easier or harder?
Speaker 2 (42:21):
Man, I don't know, man, I think he's a grieving bro.
It's just it's hard. It's always gonna be I tell everybody,
it's gonna be something that every day. Man, I'm gonna
just it's gonna be hard because're gonna have memories. I
think being focused and having something to do with your
time for me is important just in anything that I do.
(42:42):
So I think at least we have a compass and
we have a long checklist of things that we know
Bro wanted to do and he kind of guided us.
So that gives me a little purpose kind of. So
I don't know if to answer the question, but what
about you being there?
Speaker 7 (42:58):
Yeah, I think I don't think. I agree.
Speaker 5 (42:59):
I don't think the grief gonna get no easier, But
I feel like the motiva, the motivation to keep going,
you know what I'm saying, It's just based off the fact.
I feel like that's what Bro. You know, we want,
you know what I'm saying. So that's the thing. You know,
it's easier to just keep it going, just stay resilient, you.
Speaker 7 (43:17):
Know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (43:18):
What's something that you know, nipping vision for Marathon that
still hasn't happened yet that y'all got on that list.
Speaker 2 (43:26):
I think Hustle always was talking about he wanted ten
Marathon stores and all his strategic his best markets. He
always big about like, man, I want to I want
to open up ten Marathon stores, And anytime I drop
a project, I'm just gonna ship one hundred thousand to
each store, and I'm shipping platinum off the jump off
the gate and we look like crazy, this is crazy,
(43:48):
but that was his main goal to do that. So
in the perfect world, if we're able to ever get that,
like I tell his daughter, my niece, like, man, this
is the goal. So if I'm not here, you make
sure that we you know, get this, get this to
the finish line.
Speaker 7 (44:03):
That's doe.
Speaker 6 (44:04):
What are those conversations like, like when you're talking to
your niece about those plans and like kind of preparing
her for because at this point now the brand is
to the point where that probably will happen, where there
will be generations of Marathon and prolific and all these things.
Speaker 2 (44:17):
Yep, I think I just try to tell her and
educate her on who her dad was, and you know,
giving her time to understand, and also explained to her
the importance of ownership. And you know, I tell her,
don't never sell you your dad masters, don't never just
you know this, this is this is important. And then
(44:39):
also work ethic. You know, no matter how much money
you have, you could you could blow it. So just
what are you going to do for a living. This
is a lifestyle, like what you gotta wake up and
do something. It's not about just hanging out and just
spending money. So this is she probably get tired of
me telling her this, but this is what I'm telling
her telling hers, So I feel confident, like she's ready
(45:00):
and she already be telling me like, man, you need
to get this. This is the new clothes you need
to got. You guys need to get with this. So
I'm like, all right, come on, we need your need
your bounce right now. So she's I think excited, and
she understands the importance of her coming in and just
you know, taking over and helping wrote this. And I
tell her all the time. I said, Man, by the
(45:22):
time you know, you get a little three four year
running this, man, we better be on private jets. Man,
you got to take this to the next level.
Speaker 1 (45:31):
What about you, Sam? You know what I'm saying, twenty
years from now? What do you what do you hope
they say you you protected? Besides just you know Nipsey's.
Speaker 2 (45:38):
Name, Man, I just I just hope that you know,
in time, people will just man just hopefully respect that. Uh.
We moved with integrity. Man. We just try to do
the right thing. And also if people can be inspired
(46:05):
about anything that we do, that's important too. That's really it. Man.
I don't really you know, look too much on that, man.
I just try to do that. You never know, in life, man,
it's ups and downs. Man. You just gotta thug it
out and and put the best foot forward. And that's
just what we've been doing.
Speaker 7 (46:22):
Man.
Speaker 2 (46:22):
And I think message to the youth or to anybody
that's just just looking, it's just as you got to
stay at it.
Speaker 4 (46:31):
Man.
Speaker 2 (46:31):
It's really like what Hussell said, it's a marathon. You know,
it's not it's not gonna always be easy. You know,
you just got to keep going and then you're gonna
eventually get to the finish line. And what that finish
line is or the journey, you'll never know.
Speaker 1 (46:43):
I feel like running that race is what has kept
you focused. It's kept you from crashing out, for sure.
I really feel that way, because you know, we've seen
moments where it's like, you know, I feel like saying
about the loser a little bit, but I feel like
the vision of what your attempting to do with marathon
is what keeps you.
Speaker 4 (47:02):
From doing it.
Speaker 2 (47:05):
I think for sure, man, I.
Speaker 1 (47:06):
Think I think about that one incident when the marathon
Berger opened up. You showed a lot of poise when
you you escorted a dude out of there.
Speaker 2 (47:13):
Yep, yep, I think, yeah, oh boy, we know him
and we got love for him. So it was just
a time or certain things that had to get addressed,
like man, we're not doing that. But yeah, I mean God,
God been good man and been putting certain things in
front of us and then keeping other things from in
(47:35):
front of us, which is which is good because sometimes
you can't do nothing but just react. So I've been
trying to put myself in the space of just let's work,
and then every now and then you just can't avoid it.
And then at that point it be like, man, fuck it.
We ain't putting none of this success or anything in
front of what we're supposed to do. So you know,
I'll just be like God, if you let me run
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into these people, it's going down. If not, I'm gonna
just take it as you know, it's thank you. But
other than that, man, we focused. We ain't really you know,
we ain't focus on other people. We focus on what
we're doing like always, and we wish everybody the best
and wish people's success and just no be grateful. Hopefully
nobody come in our lane and now they're gonna have
(48:18):
to get their head.
Speaker 3 (48:19):
But I was how surprising was like when you had
so many celebrities come to the spot, and not just
hip hop celebrities, right cause you expect that, Like when
you have Stevie Wonder pulling up and how do you
know what the order? Like, how do you go number one?
Speaker 4 (48:33):
Like what did he point to on the line?
Speaker 2 (48:35):
Right right? I think, man, it's big to me. It's
a testament to Bro Man and the inspiration and people
just showing support for Bro and really what the brand
stands for and everybody man all walks of life, like
you said, come out and show love. And I'll be
always surprised that.
Speaker 7 (48:56):
You need to call yo.
Speaker 3 (48:57):
Stevie Want is here right now and you I'm about.
Speaker 2 (49:00):
Yeah, we was in there. And actually somebody from our
camp is close to bro family, close to his team,
and you know, I think Stevie found out the Hustle
was a big fan. Stevie did something at the funeral,
so they reached out and it was like, man, Stevie
Wonder want to pull up, So we're like, man, thank you.
(49:21):
So just all you'd be surprised how many different people
in the network that that that that Bro has and
friends of family they reach out and they just show
love and just want to, you know, show support and
that and that always tells me the type of person
that Bro was.
Speaker 1 (49:41):
What's what's one lesson that you hear from Nip in
your head every day, both of y'all.
Speaker 2 (49:49):
For me, man, it's just life is a marathon. Man,
run a lot. You know, this ship is not gonna
be easy. It's not gonna be just everything all there
for you. You know, from the outside looking in. You know,
when you're doing a good job, it makes everybody think
it's easy or makes everybody think like, oh man, they
got it. But you know, in real life, you gotta
do the work and just get up breacka day man,
(50:12):
regardless of where you at.
Speaker 5 (50:13):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (50:13):
You know, I always see also telling multiple people on
videos too, and he told us, man, you just got
to start. You got to start. It started, and then
by the time you look up, you know, you be
so much closer to where you're trying to get to.
But just start, how about you?
Speaker 7 (50:29):
Yeah, I agree the same things.
Speaker 5 (50:32):
I feel like every day, even coming up here, you know,
Lincoln with y'alls tired as it only like three hours
of sleep, but every day I had that voice like,
you know, wake your game up. It's videos on Instagram.
You can see Bro fove in the morning in the studio.
I'm knocked out somewhere you see, you know, wake your
game up where you at?
Speaker 7 (50:47):
So every day it's get up and keep going.
Speaker 4 (50:50):
Sure it's gonna sound crazy, but have you visited y'all?
Speaker 2 (50:55):
I had a I had a few dreams. I'll be like,
not remembering my dreams, but I had a few dreams, Bro, Yeah,
not that many, though.
Speaker 4 (51:06):
I have had a few conversations.
Speaker 2 (51:09):
Or just yeah, just kind of crazy. Like you know
how dreams be just some crazy stuff.
Speaker 4 (51:16):
But what confirmation that he's that he's good? Basically?
Speaker 6 (51:19):
Yeah, And when you wake up and remember them, is
there anything that's also confirming for you in your real life,
like maybe questions you were trying to answer that you
might have been able to talk to him about what
you can't now.
Speaker 2 (51:30):
Nah, I mean, it's just to be honest, just the dreams,
I'll just be like, damn, that's crazy. It was a
dream with Bro some crazy shit. But it's just like
you know, Bro shooting the gang of Ship and just
making sure people were straight and so then I wake
up and I'm like, damn, what's going on? Like, you
know how dreams don't be making sense. But then it's
like just Bro being a protector or being making sure
(51:52):
that the family was good, make sure everybody's good. It
was kind of what I took that ass. It's like
Bro looking like Rambow and the dream you know what
dream is this? It's like crazy, but that was that
was one of the things. But you know how, at
least my dreams be like you never they be like
(52:12):
dreams you don't know what it's about. But that was
one of them.
Speaker 1 (52:17):
If Nip walked into Marathon Burger today, what would make
him proud?
Speaker 4 (52:20):
And what would he tell y'all to do better?
Speaker 2 (52:23):
Man? I think anytime we did something or something big
hustle will always like smile and be like, man, I
told niggas this ship and be high fiving everybody and
be like, man, these niggas got us fucked up. So
I think Bro would just be happy and then after that,
you know, celebration, be like, man, let's pay pay attention
(52:44):
to the details and make sure, you know, we uphold
the standard. And then he probably would be like, make
sure everybody come in here is feeling respected and appreciate it.
Appreciate it. And so that's one of the things we
try to preach to everybody, like, man, it's not no,
but nobody owe us to come in here and spend
any money. Like we got to make sure people feel
appreciated and they spending their money and don't get caught
(53:07):
up in like the hype of like, oh it's Marathon Burger,
like it's a privilege for somebody that No, we're privileged
that they come in and people are coming to support.
And I think for me, it's important that like Hustle
hustle whole campaign was started out of a trunk and
when he was a teenager with mixtapes and so the
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community and the people that supported him. He always wanted
to pay how muche too, and always remind people like
without without the people, he would never even been able
to be started. So I think that's one of the
things he would always probably be telling us to remember,
like remember that we never forget where we came from,
how we even got here, and the support that got
(53:49):
us here.
Speaker 1 (53:50):
I'm glad you said that, And that's what I hope
that's one of the things I hope the doctor addresses
because when people think Nick now, they think about ownership
with so much people forget that he was also talking
about community. I feel like that's part of his message
that gets missed a lot, like the whole neighborhood nip things.
Speaker 4 (54:05):
I hope that gets shown in the DOT.
Speaker 2 (54:07):
No, definitely will man. I think the reason why, at
least in the area people love Hustle so much, from
the aunties, the grandma's, the smokers, the little kids, that
was inspired by Bros because they seen him on every level.
You know, they seen him as a young kid starting
gang banging people like, oh man, what's this young dude doing?
(54:30):
Going down the wrong route and then selling dope, you know,
fighting going to jail and at the same time trying
to do something positive and being able to have success
and then not just leaving actually doing something, employing you know,
people that he grew up with, you know, helping families
(54:53):
and helping you know, family members get off of probation
or get off of parole, and you know doing it
right there, you know, opening stores and just the inspiration
that that showed in that area is you know, unmatched
because you can't buy it. You know, people seen it. It
was like nah, And I think that that was one
(55:17):
of his main things. He's like, nah, I want to
make sure that I inspire the people that came from
what I came from. And so in the documentary that's
one of the big sections because I think it's important.
You know, some people like he inspired a certain generation,
but there may be new generations coming up that may
not have that inspiration or may not even be privy
(55:38):
to the music. So at least they'll be to this
story and be able to see the story and take
inspiration from that.
Speaker 3 (55:45):
Well, let's play something off the album.
Speaker 4 (55:48):
Y'all want to get into y'all want to get into you.
Speaker 7 (55:51):
I feel like it's only getting to that Cardio record.
I just want to know, man.
Speaker 3 (55:55):
We're gonna play a couple besides the card record.
Speaker 7 (55:58):
We got the card already like that.
Speaker 4 (56:00):
I like, Yah, all right, y'all, do y'all do anything
for his his be there. I know it's be there
next week.
Speaker 2 (56:06):
Great, Yeah, man, I think we're doing We're doing a
couple of things to promote the album. It's gonna be
at the Novo. I know Bino got some things going.
And then Collective we'll be doing some things together too.
But I think for me for bro birthday, I'm gonna
just be chilling, you know, at the house. Man. But
(56:27):
the album's coming out the day before, so it's just
just just in alignment. How it happened. We were picking
dates and trying to get records cleared, and you know,
we missed a few dates, and then when it came
up the fourteenth, we was all like, oh man, it
was meant to be. So you know, I'm happy. I'll
be happy that the album will be out, you know,
(56:48):
the day before his birthday, you know, and not to
be all over the place. This album is important, man.
I don't know if I said it already, but Hustle
did this album with Bino top to bottom, and I
remember he gave it to me and so they track
listed it, they sent it to Ali to mix a
(57:08):
master and this is this is one of the things
he was proud of, proud of about, and I'm just
happy that we can put it out and just it
coming on coming out a day before his birthday is
just very important for us. There you have it.
Speaker 3 (57:23):
Thank you brothers for joining us being over man Black
Sam Bino appreciate y'all just the breakfast club. Go morening,
listen into the joint.
Speaker 4 (57:31):
Hold up every day.
Speaker 7 (57:33):
Click yours up the breakfast club
Speaker 2 (57:35):
You don't finish for y'all Dump
I don't know every day waiting click your ass up
the Breakfast Club.
Speaker 2 (00:05):
You know I'm finish for y'all.
Speaker 3 (00:06):
Done morning everybody, it's the j Envy, just hilarious. Charlamagne
the guy. We are the Breakfast Club law La roses
here as well. We got some special guests in the building.
You got the brother Black Sam Hare and also Beno
Rodel Welcome, how y'all feeling say you're running through New York?
Y'ah came in about seventy people from LA. I was like,
(00:28):
Y're gonna make LA feel y'all mad, New York feel
like LA.
Speaker 1 (00:30):
I saw a Rod Wave day Rod Waves, I seen
Black Sam. He got the whole LA with him.
Speaker 2 (00:35):
Came out man hours ago.
Speaker 3 (00:37):
You got a new project that's out today. Explain the project,
talk about the project a little bit, and and why now,
because it seems like it's been a minute. Why why
is this particular moment the time?
Speaker 2 (00:48):
I think for me, at least, it was a while
before I could even think about putting something out from
Bro and just we knew the project was already done
and it needed to come out. I was just feeling
like it was appropriate basically, and I think we was
talking to the team and the family. Everybody was like, man,
(01:10):
I think it's time for us to go, you know,
figure out the release. And so we talked to Beano
in his camp, like, bro, we've been waiting just on y'all,
it's no rush. So everybody felt like, all together, it
was time.
Speaker 1 (01:25):
I'm been sitting on these records being o because I
know y'all y'all done mad music before.
Speaker 4 (01:28):
I remember y'all having a tape back to it. No pressure,
no pressure before, no pressure though, Yeah, we started.
Speaker 5 (01:35):
Working on this before. No pressure. This was the initial
you know what I'm saying idea. We wanted to make
songs for women, you know what I'm saying, a kind
of vulnerable project. But you know, after so long of that,
you know, it's still nip hustle, being on adult. We
end up making one street record, you know, just to
have some fun and then caught that bounce and that's
that's how we ended up just you know what I'm saying,
putting no pressure out first. But yeah, we started working
on these songs like twenty fifteen, twenty sixteen.
Speaker 6 (01:55):
Yeah, so how did you guys know that this was
the project to be like, you know, the sid that
we hear after everything, Like, how was like, I'm sure
there was so much other music that you guys have
worked on and maybe that have been done already as
well too.
Speaker 7 (02:07):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (02:08):
I think something we all, you know what I'm saying,
agree to appreciate is the fact that Nip had so
much intent, you know what I'm saying, and were lucky
to just have so many you know what I'm saying,
gyms left like through text messages and things like that,
just you know, scheduling and just just ideas and you know,
his plans. So this was on schedule to be the
next release after Victory Lap, and yeah, we're just seeing
(02:30):
it through now.
Speaker 3 (02:31):
They said it was eighty percent done pretty much, So
what was the other twenty percent.
Speaker 7 (02:35):
That had to be done? Well, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 5 (02:37):
We had already sequenced, sent the project in that mixed body,
you know what I'm saying, got a few mixes, but
you know how it is in the final stages of
you know what I'm saying, like the mix and everything.
We had three more last minute records that we want
to add into the sequence and we had sent them
over and uh, yeah, what was the CARDI record done,
that was done a minute ago, like before a lot
(02:59):
of these records.
Speaker 7 (03:00):
Really yeah, yeah.
Speaker 5 (03:01):
It make that happen, make that feature happening. You know
what I'm saying. Got black Sam ear on it early,
you feel me?
Speaker 7 (03:07):
And uh yeah that was that was a minute ago.
So they got a chance to actually work with each
other for that.
Speaker 4 (03:11):
Yeah, That's how was Nips work ethic?
Speaker 1 (03:13):
Was he like a studio head, like he's stayed in
the studio and record a lot, Like did he do
things here and there?
Speaker 4 (03:19):
Like what was it like?
Speaker 2 (03:20):
Man us, who's gonna stay in the studio? Uh, whether
we got recording done always basically on how Bro felt
or you know, we used to push like man, he's
like my bro, if I don't feel it, I'm not
even gonna get in there an attempt to lay it.
So he just being there vibing a lot of times.
You know, probably no better than me because he was
spent a lot of time in there with Bro. But
(03:40):
Bro just being just go He'll go to to check
in to work, though, he'll go early. He'll be watching movies, documentaries,
just getting inspired and once he feel it, turn that
micro on it and magics happens. Immediately, but he wouldn't
force it, like, man, I don't want to. I don't
wanna It's not gonna be right. But he definitely would
spend days and nights and not leave. He'll lock in
(04:02):
and then you may lock in for thirty days and nothing,
and then all of a sudden you get just seven
to eight in one day.
Speaker 5 (04:09):
Accurate beat No for sure, Like like Nip, Man, I
see Nip. He'll stay up as long as we do,
you know what I'm saying, drink as much as us.
But he up at five am. He and push up in
the middle of the studio. You know what I'm saying.
So his work ethic was inspiring. Bro, It definitely, you
know what. It's just sparked a lot of growth in me,
just wanting to challenge myself, you know what I'm saying.
Things like that. But yeah, bro, every day it was
(04:30):
just it was constantly he calling me in the morning,
on calling him and we figuring it out. Whatever we're
gonna do. Either we're gonna get in the studio create
or go vibe about play the records we've been creating,
you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 7 (04:40):
Whatever it is, but it worked, Ethic overly for sure.
Speaker 3 (04:43):
And how difficult is it hearing his voice? Is it
refreshing like a great thing, or is it like damn,
I missed my man feeling?
Speaker 5 (04:50):
Man, you know these records aren't like before we started
going into this, you know what I'm saying, just closing
you feel me. I wasn't listening to these records, you know,
our own playing often some times out of team you
hear me playing. Somebody wanted to hear him or something
real quick. But it's refreshing to see the team get together.
You know, the same familiar faces that was there, you know,
working on the project and working on Victory Lot. You know, producers, engineers,
(05:12):
you know Black see him coming in real hands on.
It was like, you know, the fraternity, the brotherhood, the fellowship.
Speaker 7 (05:18):
You know what I'm saying. That was refreshing for sure,
right hold on.
Speaker 3 (05:22):
I was asked Black Sam the.
Speaker 2 (05:23):
Same Yeah, I think, same thing. Man. For me, it's
it's always hard hearing bro music, but then I get
happy laugh. So it's just a roller coaster emotions that anytime.
But it it did feel good, man, just I know
how much the project meant to hustle. I remember when
he gave it when he gave it to me to
listen to, Like anytime, Bro, I tell everybody, anytime you
(05:46):
give me a project, I know it's done. Don't be
wanting to hear what I got to say before it's done. Like, man,
it's done. What you're thinking. So at that point I
know it's a masterpiece. And so he was proud of
this project and I'm just happy that we able to
put it out. Man to like you were saying to
that CARDI B record, we was pushing for that to
be on Victory Lap. Really Hustle was like, man, He's like,
(06:08):
now you know what this fits this project better. So
this project was slated to come after Victory Lap, and
so just the whole thing, every song in there, we
kept the same sequence. We didn't add features. I think
maybe one one or two people Man jumped on just
to elevate, but we kept it. What they put together
(06:30):
and what they did together as a whole, we kept it,
and that was very important. But to answer your point,
it feel good to finally put this out.
Speaker 1 (06:38):
When people say Nipsey's legacy, saying, what does that phrase
actually mean to you? Because you knew the man before
you know the world knew this this icon.
Speaker 2 (06:48):
I think for me, man, it's important. Hustle whole thing
was to inspire people. You know, we had multiple conversations
so many times. You know, I'm trying to be on
business or be to help this thing go forward with Hustle,
be a asset in any way. I can so all
pressure like Bro, we gotta do it, Bro with multiple
(07:08):
times like hold on, Bro, we're gonna get to the money.
That's we're gonna do that. My shit is special. This
had my stuff has to be has to inspire, And
a lot of times I'll be like all right, but
I didn't really fully get it. And so just even now, man,
seeing how inspirational he is and how many people are
inspired and continue to be inspired, I really just be like, damn,
(07:31):
this was what Bro wanted.
Speaker 1 (07:33):
What's the biggest misconception people have about about it? Because
he's become like a mythical figure now at this.
Speaker 2 (07:39):
Point, Man, I don't know, man. I think one thing
I do say is when this documentary comes out, people
love and respect Bro so much, and they probably only
know ten fifteen percent of the story. So when this
doc come out and people actually like really see I
(08:00):
think they canna be blown away, and it's gonna be
it's gonna be pandama, It's gonna be crazy, you know
what I mean. So that's our that's our focus right now.
Just don't mess this dock up because we got so
much footage and the story is there. We're just trying
to take our time and do it correctly.
Speaker 3 (08:14):
The one is it coming out?
Speaker 2 (08:15):
I hope maybe next year.
Speaker 1 (08:17):
You're saying that I've heard some legendary stories about you
in this documentary. Yeah, the money I've heard that you've
left on the table just because you want to keep
the integrity of it. I've heard some like some crazy numbers.
Speaker 6 (08:30):
Is that turning down like network offers.
Speaker 2 (08:32):
Yes, yeh, yep. I think for us, like I'm telling everybody,
it's not about money. So no matter how much was
on the table, we're not messing this up. But we're
not changing the story. And a lot of times people
you know, we had opportunities, which was good, but it
was with interior motives. Obviously it's business people wanted us
to put the doc out for a lot of money,
(08:53):
but it has a time or it got to come
by November because we're trying to launch our new network
and this ho on and then with all the research says,
you know, people don't like more than two episodes, so
this one has to be too like we're walking. I mean,
we got to do this the right way. We got
to make sure that it's told the correct way. And
(09:14):
I don't even want to talk about business. I want
to finish it and then once it's done, we'll give
that shit away for free and tripping on. This ain't
about the money player. I just want this to reach everybody,
and then this thing got to sweep awards because the
story is there till everybody. It's just on us not
to mess this up. We can't rush it. We got
to polish this diamond and you know, it's there for
the people. And the most important thing is when this
(09:37):
documentary come out, this will be another big thing for
Bro that inspires people and that's his that's his main thing.
So we gotta do it correctly. People got to see
this and just be at all and just be inspired.
Speaker 4 (09:48):
So who is the doctor?
Speaker 1 (09:49):
Is it for the day one nip fans of the
people who know his name but don't fully understand his impact.
Speaker 2 (09:54):
I think it's for both man. I think it's for
I think it's for the day ones who want to
know everything, you know what I mean. And this is
where I'm like, Man, we going eight nine episode because
we got it. I got what we got. I was
incarcerated when my niece was born, so we tracked down footage.
I never thought he even existed. We got when my
niece was born in the hospital, so I'm in at
(10:17):
it just blown away. We got hustle when he first
learned how to make beats when he was a young kid.
We got when he was in elementary. So the spring
Hill team came in and helped us just comb you
know the world, and pulled every anybody who had any footage.
So we got it. So I think the the old
(10:38):
white lady, the doctor who doesn't know anything about rap
music is going to see this documentary and see a
kid grow up gifted and gifted class volunteered to be
gifted and was tested by his teachers, and they called
my mom said, man, it's crazy. It's the first kid
that ever volunteered to be tested gifted, and he really
is gifted. And then you see him, you know, young,
(11:00):
selling dope, and then you see you just it's a journey.
So as you're watching it, you're gonna be going through
the roller coaster of emotions rooting for this kid and
to see you know him eventually Grammy nominated, and you're
just gonna be just applauding. So that's the journey that
we want to take you through this and we have
everything there be able to see it in real time.
Speaker 4 (11:19):
And you said you put it off for free and
get that shit away.
Speaker 2 (11:22):
Man, it's saying about the money. Send the money play y'all.
Speaker 1 (11:26):
Don't understand the numbers that I've heard that people wanted
for this documentary.
Speaker 4 (11:30):
That says a lot. You can give us a ranger now, oh,
I mean it's even tens of millions.
Speaker 2 (11:38):
Yeah, it was, you know, through that COVID, through that
COVID phase, it was upwards to like twenty, like high twenties,
That's what I heard. And before that, every Duvene helped
us secure like a fifteen million dollar situation from Netflix.
We ended up having to walk from it, but she
was like instrumental in helping us, educating us and like, look,
I can bring y'all right to the thing.
Speaker 1 (12:00):
And then I heard the story about something. It was
one of the screaming platform that was going to launch.
Speaker 2 (12:04):
Yep.
Speaker 1 (12:05):
It wanted to use that as the first piece of
content they put out.
Speaker 2 (12:09):
Ye Disney onyx Wow. A lot of people came in
and was supportive and was ready to go. It was
just you know, we had to and they didn't understand why.
But tell everybody our team know why. Like we had
to just respectfully like, hold on, we're gonna do this
the correct way. And so you know, we got shelved
for a minute because even the team was like, man,
we got investors like we you turned down all these deals.
(12:31):
We can't spend no more money until we know how
much it's gonna get sold for it. You're talking about
giving it away. So now we've just been coming in
and just one hundred thousand at a time of our
own money, just pushing the edit forward. But we're pretty close.
We got Alan Hughes involved right now too. He's seen
the footage. Everything happened for a reason, is what I
tell the team, because when we first was starting, we
wanted to bring him in to kind of help us.
(12:53):
He was busy on the project. I think he was
doing the part project. So he's like, man, I really
would love to I just I'm committed. And so now
he's free, so he really see the footage we had.
He like, what is going on? He's like, man, I
know exactly.
Speaker 7 (13:06):
What this is.
Speaker 2 (13:07):
So he's excited. He's on. So it's like everything you
never realized, but everything happened for a reason. I think
this is the perfect time to get it done how
we really want it.
Speaker 1 (13:16):
Yeah, and he's been at the hell of some great
West Coast stories, so that just made all the sense
in the world. Ye, well, what's the one scene a
chapter you're most excited for people to see?
Speaker 2 (13:27):
Man, it's just so many because I know my brother.
A lot of people ask me about Bro, And one
of the questions that a lot of people asked me
is like, man, when did Bro? When did he become?
And I'd be like, man, Bro was always like that.
Bro was a little kid on a bike leading us
find the ship were following him. He was in school.
You know, we went to school and watched It took
(13:48):
me like three years to be able to be like
I was handling the school. I knew everybody. He came
there in two weeks and was running the school. So
he was exceptionally everything he does, he was special, and
I think in this documentary you're gonna seem from a child.
He was just special. And one quality with Bro was
he made other people feel special. He made other people
(14:10):
he always wanted to take the team with him for
the journey, educated himself, brought it back, and he just
really made you feel like anything could be possible because
you saw him do it. And then he championed seeing
other people be successful, like it was one of the
things that he liked to do. He liked to help
out and then see that little help somebody blow up
(14:32):
and made him feel good.
Speaker 3 (14:33):
I always wanted to know, you know, when Nip after
his past and you see so many people post videos
and Nip was their best friend, and they post pictures
like they knew Nip for a long time. How does
that make y'all feel When y'all know a lot of
that it's not true, and they're using Nip's name and
likeness to try to push their projects. How does that
both make you feel? Because y'all both were so close
to him.
Speaker 2 (14:56):
I think for me, you know, I just try to
let people as long as it's good, positive things, you
know what I mean? I can't I try not to
be trying to judge or try to be h feel
a certain way, and then I take a step back
and say, you know, I don't know people certain situations,
(15:18):
and I don't know everything about Bro, and so I
just I'll fact check some stuff for sure, you know,
I go investigating, fact check, But I just one thing
I know about Bro is he made everybody feel special.
The valets got they know hustle. I'll pull up anywhere
and the valets will tell me a story. Valets that
I know, a spots that he went to, you know,
anywhere I'm going, people will be like, man, you know what.
(15:40):
They'll show pictures. So I know Bro moved through life
just very respectful and very intentional about having relationships with
the car Wish guys. Everybody knew him and loved him.
So when I hear these stories, I'd be like, he could.
Speaker 7 (15:58):
True, you know what I mean?
Speaker 3 (15:59):
And what was his relationship with New York?
Speaker 7 (16:01):
Right?
Speaker 3 (16:01):
Because I remember coming up in the mixtape era and
I would be out when I was outside, he was
here a lot. He was in the clubs a lot,
he was in the streets a lot. I was like,
what is Nip's relationship with New York?
Speaker 7 (16:12):
Wise, it's so tight.
Speaker 2 (16:14):
Man Hustle loved New York. Man Hustle, Hustle, since the
kid loved music. He was adamant listener and collector of
Source magazine just all hip hop, and New York was,
you know, one of the big what can I say,
collections of music that he had. He put me up
(16:35):
on everything I listened to, and so he always with
number one. He came out here and launched mixtapes, you know.
So you know, I was watching and I was happy
he was in New York and he was out here
with Johnny Shipes and New York embraced him and.
Speaker 3 (16:49):
He felt safe, he felt comfortab because he was he
was uptown Queens Hall of like all over the.
Speaker 2 (16:54):
Place, and they embraced Broke and and that's why I
love New York so much. And I know Hustle always like, man,
you got to get to New York, bro And so
he brought me out here, He brought the whole team
out here, and we just got none of belove for
New York because of that, and Hustle, I think, not
only because he loved New York so much, because they
(17:14):
embraced him so much. It was just it became second
home to him.
Speaker 3 (17:18):
Now that's the reason I was gonna say, and is
that the reason why Marathon Burger they say you're opening
up in Square? Or break with why and tell us
about it.
Speaker 2 (17:27):
I think we got an opportunity.
Speaker 1 (17:28):
Man.
Speaker 2 (17:29):
People that hustle was close to ended up hitting us.
It's like, hey, man, we got a location on Times Square.
We believe in it. I'm like, what how much is
d rent man? You know, we can't bury ourselves. They're like, no,
we got we grandfather. Then we got a good lease.
So it's an old restaurant that we had. So I
feel like this is this is perfect like everything environment, man,
it just comes and our drops in our lap kind
(17:50):
of It's is one of the ones.
Speaker 6 (17:52):
You just smiled when you talked about bringing Marathon Burger
to New York. Is there moments where like, you're doing
things because you've the way that you've been able to
build out in carried the brand and the legacy of Nipsey.
It's been one to watch for sure, But are there
moments where you're doing things where you smile and you're like,
I know that me and him would have shared such
a problem moment about that.
Speaker 2 (18:10):
Oh, for sure, man Hustle, definitely, Man Hustle is you know,
he was instrumental in doing big things. So just us
bringing something to New York would have been big for
Bro for sure. And he was the visionary. He told
us at all times, like man, this marathon braand gonna
be big, you know what I mean? And it made
me believe that, like all right, damn it's he made
(18:33):
us read books thirty twenty two Immutable Laws of Branding,
just always told us about how important and how big
the brand could be and it could live in so
many different sectors. So everything we do, in hindsight, just
be like man Hustle just had the vision.
Speaker 1 (18:52):
What's something you learned about leadership that you never would
have understood if you.
Speaker 4 (18:56):
Hadn't been responsible for carrying that vision.
Speaker 2 (18:59):
Brother, Man, I don't know, Man, I think. I think
just for me, it's it's very important that we do
our part and make sure that we push this to
the to the to the limit man as much as possible,
(19:21):
but at the same time making sure that we don't
do anything that's not moving with integrity, especially with Bro's legacy.
And really, you know, you got to finance the campaign,
so it has to be business and Bro has kids,
(19:42):
you know, my niece and nephew. But at the same time,
just you know, we're blessed to be able to take
a step back and try to do things correctly. And
at the end of the day, everything has to inspire people.
You know, I wanted to always come back to this
is something to hustle created. This is a vision that
he had. This is the concept of Marathon brand. Like
(20:03):
I'll tell everybody when he was telling us about Marathon,
you know, I'm fresh out of prison and I'm watching
what he was doing with Bullets and Got On Names
and I'm excited. And after volume three he's telling us like, yeah, man,
I'm gonna change the mixtape. I'm like what. I'm like, Bro,
we going to Bullets and Got On Names volume twenty.
(20:23):
You got the hottest thing in the streets. What are
you talking about. He's like, man, I'm gonna change it
to the Marathon. I'm like what, And so he already knew.
He's like, man, you know the energy because we jumping
off the stage every every venue, getting in fights. It's
just going. He's like, man, I want the energy to
change in the shows. I don't like the energy that
I'm getting in. I didn't understand it, but when the
(20:45):
Marathon mixtape came out, it was just it was exactly
what he what, he what he envisioned, the energy change.
You got people walking up with resumes, You got people
tell them how he inspired them to get through college,
how he inspired them through basketball. Hustle say, and you
inspired me to hustle. So the message and from there
(21:05):
became the Marathon movement with clothing, the Marathon store, brand partnerships,
and this is all from him and his vision. So
I always sit back and I'll be like, damn, you know,
he make us all believe like this this is actually possible.
But because he did it, and what I want people
to do is as big as we can take this,
I want them to realize, you know where it came from,
(21:26):
you know, Hustle. And that's the documentary so important. You
got we got footage when Hustle was young and the
hood selling dope, you know, and just everybody. And that's
why the streets love Hustle and specifically La. It's from
every hood because they know Hustle is just like them.
Hustle came from the exact situations that they came from
and that was very important for him be like, look, man,
(21:48):
I've been in that same situation that you at just
you can do it, and they saw him. So that's
very important for me, and I feel like that's the
that's that's our duty to make sure that we keep
the essence of that.
Speaker 4 (22:02):
No you can go, I've heard that too.
Speaker 1 (22:04):
Like you know, y'all know y'all turned down mad opportunities
to even sell the marathon Bran, Like you know, was
there ever a number that that made you think about it?
Speaker 7 (22:12):
Na?
Speaker 4 (22:12):
Never?
Speaker 2 (22:13):
Never. I think for us, if we brought a good
partner in that has some finance and that can help
us scale, I think that's important. But as far as
just us selling and just walking away like you can
come with a hundred billion, we ain't doing it. There's
no money. There's no level of money that can be
presented to have us walk away.
Speaker 3 (22:32):
How much more music is there? I know you drop
these fifteen records? Is there a lot more music? Is
it could be continuous dropping?
Speaker 2 (22:38):
Or you know how much I know being on BRO
got so much fire.
Speaker 4 (22:42):
Music that sounds like how did you pick impression on you?
Speaker 6 (22:46):
Yeah, because y'all are keeping into synonymous to like his intentions,
things he actually worked on his schedule. There has to
be a life. He's always like dreaming and planning.
Speaker 5 (22:56):
Well, I mean as a fan, something I look forward
to tell him about the door, something I look forward to,
and something that's dope to me is you know broken.
You know what I'm saying, Hell been on this dock
and I feel like a dope.
Speaker 7 (23:07):
You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 5 (23:08):
Aspect of it is it's so much music, you know
what I'm saying from different errors of a nit Puszle.
Speaker 7 (23:14):
You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 5 (23:15):
So I'll bro lining it up as you watching the dot.
You know what I'm saying. You got the soundtrack to
go with that time period, So you know what I'm saying.
Just as a nit Puszle fan, that's something I'm looking
forward to for sure.
Speaker 1 (23:27):
How do you know when you're honoring NIPS vision versus
accidentally finishing it the way someone else thinks it shuit sound,
especially you know when you're doing it now as.
Speaker 5 (23:37):
Opposed to Yeah, Well, for me, it's like I had
to overcome that hump of just you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 7 (23:42):
Lincoln was broke from when he first called me.
Speaker 5 (23:44):
You know what I'm saying, Like where I come from
Lincoln with Nipuszle, It's a dream come true. You feel
me as a rapper broader, You know what I'm saying.
It was just a lot a long time of me questioning,
like damn, why broke trusting me in his space like this?
Or why he letting me jump in the booth like that?
You know what I'm saying. But after you know what
I'm saying, and just every day of us doing that,
it just turned into my obligation. You feel me to
(24:05):
hold myself to a certain standard as well as you
know what I'm saying creatively and and just my execution.
Speaker 7 (24:11):
You feel me.
Speaker 5 (24:11):
So I'm just here just just you know what I'm saying,
seeing it through out.
Speaker 7 (24:16):
It's all we could do.
Speaker 3 (24:17):
How did y'all meet?
Speaker 5 (24:18):
Oh Man, Nipussle. He called me off Casey Veggie's phone
one day.
Speaker 7 (24:21):
You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 5 (24:21):
It was always like me and my brothers were like, man,
we gotta get a hustle, You feel me if we
gotta link with anybody. When Casey knew and I guess
he was at the studio with Bro one day I
see Casey calling my phone, like he called me every day,
and it's Nippussy, like pull up every day.
Speaker 7 (24:34):
We pulled up.
Speaker 4 (24:35):
After that, Why why Nip?
Speaker 1 (24:37):
Because you know, if you knew Nip and you liked
his music when he was alive, you you got why
people revered him so much when he passed. Yeah, why
then in that moment and he was like, y'all want
to get with Nip because he wasn't the biggest artist
out of out of LA by any means.
Speaker 7 (24:51):
At the time.
Speaker 5 (24:52):
I feel like it was it was. It was the influence,
it was the energy. You know what I'm saying. We're
from the same area, bro. You know what I'm saying.
It was he was the archetype.
Speaker 1 (25:01):
You know what.
Speaker 7 (25:01):
I was in high school looking up the bro. You
feel me?
Speaker 5 (25:04):
So just from where I come from, he was, man,
he was the one, the prototype.
Speaker 6 (25:10):
Do you feel like you can answer that question now
as to why, like you said, being like, why are
he trusted me? You think you can answer that now?
Speaker 7 (25:17):
Nah?
Speaker 5 (25:17):
I can't, But I know you know what I'm saying.
It was it's like because of class was you know
what I'm saying. It was around where it's like we
all kind of had the same aspirations and goals and
things like that, and I just felt like something I
see in all of us is that we was willing
to learn, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 7 (25:31):
We was willing to grow and we had open minds.
Speaker 1 (25:35):
You feel me, Sam, Do you ever feel like you're
not just protecting this legacy, you're protecting the.
Speaker 4 (25:42):
Truth about who he was?
Speaker 2 (25:44):
Yeah? For sure. I think the important thing once again
is people don't even fully understand and you will never
fully understand Hustle except if you have a documentary that
shows everything about Bro. And there's so many textures and broke.
Bro was funny as hell. Bro was you know, a leader,
(26:06):
Bro like always champion other people's success, inspirational, you know, humble.
So just seeing footage and seeing documentary and seeing you,
you'll actually be able to see the human you know,
a father, you know. Uh, Rap music is a lot
(26:27):
of times you get one side of the person, and
a lot of people that's seeing interviews from Bro and
you know they get another side. So now with this documentary,
you're gonna get the full three sixty. You're gonna see everything,
and you're gonna see you know, human life, Man, you
go through ups and downs, and you go through growth,
you go through hard times success. So I feel like
(26:48):
that's the that's the most important thing, is putting this
documentary out. And then yeah, you know, you hear so
many weird stories and this, and people saying, uh, what
was going on in the hood and all this. Man,
the documentary shows everything. Documentary show everything about what was
going on. One thing I will say, man, Hustle was crazy.
Speaker 7 (27:10):
You know.
Speaker 2 (27:11):
Hustle was not going for anything. It was gonna be
confrontational with any and everybody, and it's it's documented, you
know what I mean. And you know, I see I'm
gonna speak on one thing. I see a lot of
things people say about what I did and how I man, Hustle.
What's gonna make sure I was straight? You know what
I mean. Hustle. Hustle is gonna lead the charge. So
(27:31):
anything anything that I was doing, I was doing secondary.
Hustle was that was the one that's gonna get out there.
That's gonna sock you first. Hustle gonna get cracking first.
Hustle gonna do everything first. Our whole squad knew, all right,
we gotta do something before Hustle does for sure, you
know what I mean. So you know, I think the documentary, man,
is very important because you just gonna see it in
(27:52):
real time. You're gonna hear real stories from everybody, you
know what I mean. And that's it. That's why that's
important for.
Speaker 1 (27:58):
Me, both of y'all not to jump out the window
in this era because you can go on YouTube and
see some of the goofiest shit about you know, your
brother and just anything involved in that that situation.
Speaker 4 (28:12):
How hard is it not to get online and just
say something.
Speaker 2 (28:15):
Just for me, it was very hard. The only thing
that kept me saying is the documentary. It's multiple times
I'm hitting Steve On, I'm hitting Karing. I'm like, man,
hey call breakfast Club, hit hit it. I need to
go on the tour because I'm like, man, I'm gonna
come in here tripping and just be like man, They're
like man, just everybody like missaving for the doc. So
that's kind of my being at my you know, putting
(28:35):
it together, and I'm like, all right, once this comes out,
it's right here. You're gonna see everything. You're gonna see
when Hustle first got the deal. You're gonna see when
people first met Hustle, when motherfuckers from the hood first
met Hustle. Hustle had gold chains on bulletproof whip. We
had surveillance, uff we had spots. We was getting money,
Hustles getting money. This is what people was attracted to
(28:57):
see a young dude putting up posters and was like, oh,
I want to help you take it to the next level.
So Hustle ben a star. Hustle was like Michael Jackson
in the hood. You could pull up and next thing
you know, fifty sixty of the homies is right there.
You know, we had the shop. I used to we
used to tell Hustle, like, bro, stop pulling up in
front hanging out, because when you pull up now you
got fifty crips in the front. Nobody's coming to the shop.
(29:17):
This is not good for business. This is what this
is in two thousand and six.
Speaker 4 (29:21):
You know.
Speaker 2 (29:22):
So I think the documentary is gonna put shed light
on that and show you who Hustle Hustle was. And
for me, the most important thing is within the hood,
politics and all the shit, the thirstiest and thirstiest things happening,
and Hustle bumping heads because Hustle not going for nothing.
Now we damn there into it. Hustle made a point
(29:43):
not to leave through everything. He's like, nah, my shit
got to be right here. It's got to be inspirational
for the people. Got to be motivated from every hood.
And Hustle motivated the whole, the whole hood. Like you
know what's saying everybody in La into what people say, Oh,
Hustle wasn't that big, you know everywhere, but in La
(30:05):
Hustle was the one because people like, man, Hustle did
it ship, we could do it, you know, Hustle did
it in his hood with his homies and his brother
and his team, and we could do it. And that's
what he motivated a lot of people that felt like
or were called like unmotivatable. He motivated them and they like,
hold on, man, we can do it. They start educating themselves,
(30:26):
they start opening up businesses, they want to get record labels,
they want to mobilize, they team or they hood. And
it was like I see people all day from different
areas that supposed to be you know, beefing or not
with not cool with the hood. They got tattoos, all
money in they was like, bro, all that man, look
I got, I got all money and tatted on me.
(30:46):
I know that's because they were inspired by bro And
that's another good thing. That's just like, man, this is
this is bro.
Speaker 6 (30:51):
Gold because of because of all of that, right and
the things that you see and what you know Nipsey
stood on. Do you feel the responsibility to correct a
record when things like there was a new federal indictment
that mentioned Nipsey's name in relation to something that went down,
or like attention with him in Big U, Like when
you see stuff like that all these years after his
past and his name coming up in court documents, Like,
what's your reaction?
Speaker 2 (31:13):
Man, I think I've been I've been very vocal at
all times. Anybody from the hood or anybody that know
me or anything. Man, listen, man, Hustle was not going
for anything in any form or fashion, you know what
I mean. Hustle a lot of times had conflict with
a lot of people, multiple people, and may come up
(31:34):
in a lot of court documents when any certain people
have situations. So to me, it's just it's stuff that
we already knew. A lot of that stuff is wrong
and it's not correct. So for me, and not just
with do with everything. That documentary once again is important
because you're gonna see you're gonna see the timeline, and
(31:57):
you're gonna see what really happened. And some of that
stuff that I that I'm reading is false and I
seen myself and some of this stuff. I'm like, man,
not to speak on on certain situations or speak on
other people's situations. But for our situation, anytime there was
anything at our shop, it was a melee. Hustle cracked
(32:20):
it off and only time, and it was multiple times,
and I've been arrested for each of them, but multiple
times shot. So it's not like that multiple times shots
was fired. It was because it was already a long
melee and motherfuckers was bringing more people talking about it
wasn't no head up phase, so no, it ain't no
head ups. All right, cool, we airing it out. So
(32:43):
that's the only thing that ever went down, And it
was multiple times that happened. And you know, it was
a clear understanding, like you're gonna give niggas their head
up phase and Hustle gonna go first, whether we're telling
them not to or not, like man, watch out. And
then after that it was a structure and it was understood.
So that's not speaking on that's just on anything that
ever happened in front of our situation. It's Hustle, got
(33:05):
songs about it too, shootouts in front of shop now
it's an az like he's referencing real situations that like,
we're not going for it. And that's what everybody knew.
Everybody in the area already noticed. So anytime I hear
anything coming out from podcasters or people that speculate, and
I just laugh and be like, man, you don't, you don't.
(33:25):
You just did not know Bro. You know what I mean?
You did not know Bro at a lot of people
didn't like Bro because of that. You know, it's older people,
it's reputable people. It's people that was talking to Bro
crazy that got socked in. They shit as soon as
they said it, and it's just like it is what
you got to live with it. But that's why Hustle
is legendary in our hood and in every other hood
because the phone calls is made that it vibrates to
(33:46):
everywhere and everybody's just when they see the Hustle out,
salute Bro. It's never been done in history, but you
did it. And that's just one of the things that
you know, I sit back and laugh. Our whole team like, man,
it's Hustle, it's crazy.
Speaker 1 (34:00):
If you don't want to address this, I understand, but
what because we don't know? But you don't got a clue?
A disrecord the big.
Speaker 4 (34:06):
U because that's what the indictment said as well.
Speaker 2 (34:10):
I think you don't got a clue. Was what Bro
was going through at that time. You know, it was
a very uh problematic time for us in the streets police. Uh.
(34:31):
You know, we were trying to finance the campaign, legal
ship going on, and it was it was it was like, man,
we got one shot at this, and you know, we
was all in. And at that time, Hustle felt a
little betrayed because certain individuals were no longer aligned or
(34:52):
seeing the vision and weren't weren't understanding. He like, Bro,
like this Marathon mixtape. I'm about to drop. Man, it's
gonna change the game. I just he just got dropped
from the label. You know, my team and everybody our
team was kind of like, Bro, you lost the deal.
He like, Bro, trust me, I got all my masters.
I'm about to about to double back. They put it.
(35:13):
They put a million dollars of marketing on me and
I'm where I need to be. I'm about to double
back and we about to bang them on this independence
to trust me, so you know, I'm this my brother.
I was mad, but I'm like all right, shit, okay, cool,
I'm I'm with you regardless. And then the team and
the people that love Bro, but certain other people and
there was a lot of them who weren't really all
in like that got mad and felt a certain way
(35:36):
and was like, man, fuck this dude. And so at
that point, certain things like man, that little piece of
equipment that I gave or this or this or this,
let me get that back? So like what okay, and
was like all right, man, go ahead. And so at
that point, I feel like Hustle just was like I
had a vendetta and was like, Man, these niggas, Man,
these niggas ain't really with me, and so that you
(35:57):
ain't got a clue. Record to me was everything that
he was speaking on for multiple different people, just anybody
who didn't fully understand or wasn't really with him. He
was setting the record straight. And I remember when we
first heard that record, I didn't even I didn't even
look into the way he spelled the title. You know,
I figured that out later after we was like getting
(36:19):
into it and I was like, oh, this nigga Hustle
is crazy. But you know that's specifically just speaking on
a real time and multiple people I believe was was
was in it. I was hoping. I was hoping I
wasn't being referenced in there. I'm like, bro, I help,
you know, I'm were with you. You know I'm saying
with you on this ship. So you know, just jokingly,
but Hustle, everything you listen to on Hustle music, I
(36:42):
think is authentic and you can catch a real time.
And like I said, if Hustle not feeling, he's not recording.
But if Hustle was inspired or going through something real
in his life, he's gonna get in there and record.
And so that was just one of the moments that
you know resulted and record.
Speaker 4 (37:00):
Yeah, that's what in La Times just said.
Speaker 1 (37:03):
Uh, I guess you wanted the equipment, Nipsey didn't want
to turn it over, So then Nipsey did the record,
and then you came to discipline nip and you intervened
and stopped it from getting physical.
Speaker 2 (37:14):
That's wrong.
Speaker 7 (37:15):
So so.
Speaker 2 (37:17):
Uh, speaking on.
Speaker 4 (37:20):
Big U.
Speaker 2 (37:22):
He gave Hustle some equipment. It was an HD. Just
to clarify, he gave Hustle HD. Now me, personally, I
never liked dude like that, So I told Hustle obviously,
I'm like, fu, fuck dude and fuck that HD. We
go get wrong. Hustle like, Bro, I need the HD.
I got everything else, I need the HD. My shit
gotta sound right, all right, So he got the HD.
So in the middle of him recording the project, dude like, hey,
(37:47):
I need my HD back. I got my other artists.
I'm just trying to get these dudes deals. Basically, like
you lost your deal. To give me my HD equipment
back is his. So Hustle gave it back to him.
There wasn't nothing about trying to it. He was like,
all right, go ahead. Hustle was mad, though Hustle felt
the way. It was like, man, this nigga took took
the HD, like what's going on is trying to sabotage
(38:07):
my project And that's what happened. And as far as
I don't know about you know, I'm not gonna get
into pulling up discipline or anything like that, but I
will say anybody that came Hustles getting cracking first in
melee at all times, and once you start seeing it
(38:30):
not go that way, and and our whole squad is there,
copy everybody that love Hustle, and it's going down and
both the fats pulling up, and it's a it's a melee,
you know, Hustle, love that ship like we're gonna line
this ship up, Hustles what And that's why Hustle, That's
why niggas love Hustle. And the only time me specifically
and multiple times, if I'm getting cracking is because niggas
(38:52):
are talking about they didn't like how the lineup is
going and they're trying to get more people to come.
And now it's talking about no head up, fadse and
so at that point, all right, we are it out.
And that's that's that's not speaking on dude or dude case.
That's just me saying anything that happened at that parking lot,
and it was multiple things at that parking lot, multiple
things that I've been arrested for. And it's just in
(39:15):
things that I have not been arrested for. If anybody
really if niggas talking about it ain't no head up phase,
and it's getting aired out. And that's after the melee.
That's after we get it cracking. And that's because it
was not going Nigga's way.
Speaker 3 (39:29):
I always wanted to know when you when you came home.
Was this always the plan for you to help your
brother to get in the industry, to manage to run everything.
Was that always the plan from the door or was
it something that fell into your lap? It was like,
now I'm home, my brother dad.
Speaker 2 (39:43):
I think I remember before I went to jail, my
brother was telling me about the record label that he
created and was telling us, I want you know, we
about to have a record label, and once again made
me believe, like you know, he's reading books about uh
the cash Money deal and you know, Rockefeller's deal and
(40:08):
Masterpiece deal, and so I'm like, man, what is this
guy talking about. So he made me believe it was possible.
He's recording himself, he's putting mixtapes out, he's putting posters up,
and so I'm all in as much as I can do.
I just wanted to add a little bit of value
to what he was already doing. And I felt appreciated.
I mean, I appreciated that he came back and wanted
(40:28):
to involve me, you know, because we was all doing
the legal ship. That would have just ain't gonna work.
At the end of the day. You may you may
win sometimes, but you're gonna end up losing. So I
think he saw that too, you know what I mean,
and gave us a way out. And like I tell everybody,
that was when I went to prison. That was the
easiest time I did because I was getting updates. Bro
(40:50):
was in New York cracking. They sending me things. Man,
I'm kicking back with my feet up. I'm happy. You know,
he's out the hood, He's successful. And I think I
was in prison, I seen the Hustle in the House
video for the first time. Like man, it was just
monumental crazy, and I knew at that point I got goosebumps.
Everybody in there was going crazy. And when I got out,
(41:13):
I just wanted to make sure that I could add
value in any way. And I'm here to do whatever
is needed, and you know, I think just trying to
find my lane and figure out what I could do
to help. You know, Bro musically knew what he needed
and he knew that I was there to tap in
if you needed me, and he had management, he had
(41:39):
a good squad, and I was just there to help.
And so one of my things was the clothing. But
anything that hustle would need me, need me to tap in.
And obviously just as a brother forget business, just as
a brother I'm from from a step back, and our
other partner of Facts and my cousin Adam, just everybody
kind of making sure that the people he surrounded himself
(42:00):
with we're authentic. Then at least they knew that he
got a family and he got a team that's that
that that's gonna be looking out for his best interest,
which was important. So that was that was kind of
my role in the other team's role.
Speaker 1 (42:14):
I want to ask both of y'alls. Protecting his legacy
made grieving him easier or harder?
Speaker 2 (42:21):
Man, I don't know, man, I think he's a grieving bro.
It's just it's hard. It's always gonna be I tell everybody,
it's gonna be something that every day. Man, I'm gonna
just it's gonna be hard because're gonna have memories. I
think being focused and having something to do with your
time for me is important just in anything that I do.
(42:42):
So I think at least we have a compass and
we have a long checklist of things that we know
Bro wanted to do and he kind of guided us.
So that gives me a little purpose kind of. So
I don't know if to answer the question, but what
about you being there?
Speaker 7 (42:58):
Yeah, I think I don't think. I agree.
Speaker 5 (42:59):
I don't think the grief gonna get no easier, But
I feel like the motiva, the motivation to keep going,
you know what I'm saying, It's just based off the fact.
I feel like that's what Bro. You know, we want,
you know what I'm saying. So that's the thing. You know,
it's easier to just keep it going, just stay resilient, you.
Speaker 7 (43:17):
Know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (43:18):
What's something that you know, nipping vision for Marathon that
still hasn't happened yet that y'all got on that list.
Speaker 2 (43:26):
I think Hustle always was talking about he wanted ten
Marathon stores and all his strategic his best markets. He
always big about like, man, I want to I want
to open up ten Marathon stores, And anytime I drop
a project, I'm just gonna ship one hundred thousand to
each store, and I'm shipping platinum off the jump off
the gate and we look like crazy, this is crazy,
(43:48):
but that was his main goal to do that. So
in the perfect world, if we're able to ever get that,
like I tell his daughter, my niece, like, man, this
is the goal. So if I'm not here, you make
sure that we you know, get this, get this to
the finish line.
Speaker 7 (44:03):
That's doe.
Speaker 6 (44:04):
What are those conversations like, like when you're talking to
your niece about those plans and like kind of preparing
her for because at this point now the brand is
to the point where that probably will happen, where there
will be generations of Marathon and prolific and all these things.
Speaker 2 (44:17):
Yep, I think I just try to tell her and
educate her on who her dad was, and you know,
giving her time to understand, and also explained to her
the importance of ownership. And you know, I tell her,
don't never sell you your dad masters, don't never just
you know this, this is this is important. And then
(44:39):
also work ethic. You know, no matter how much money
you have, you could you could blow it. So just
what are you going to do for a living. This
is a lifestyle, like what you gotta wake up and
do something. It's not about just hanging out and just
spending money. So this is she probably get tired of
me telling her this, but this is what I'm telling
her telling hers, So I feel confident, like she's ready
(45:00):
and she already be telling me like, man, you need
to get this. This is the new clothes you need
to got. You guys need to get with this. So
I'm like, all right, come on, we need your need
your bounce right now. So she's I think excited, and
she understands the importance of her coming in and just
you know, taking over and helping wrote this. And I
tell her all the time. I said, Man, by the
(45:22):
time you know, you get a little three four year
running this, man, we better be on private jets. Man,
you got to take this to the next level.
Speaker 1 (45:31):
What about you, Sam? You know what I'm saying, twenty
years from now? What do you what do you hope
they say you you protected? Besides just you know Nipsey's.
Speaker 2 (45:38):
Name, Man, I just I just hope that you know,
in time, people will just man just hopefully respect that. Uh.
We moved with integrity. Man. We just try to do
the right thing. And also if people can be inspired
(46:05):
about anything that we do, that's important too. That's really it. Man.
I don't really you know, look too much on that, man.
I just try to do that. You never know, in life, man,
it's ups and downs. Man. You just gotta thug it
out and and put the best foot forward. And that's
just what we've been doing.
Speaker 7 (46:22):
Man.
Speaker 2 (46:22):
And I think message to the youth or to anybody
that's just just looking, it's just as you got to
stay at it.
Speaker 4 (46:31):
Man.
Speaker 2 (46:31):
It's really like what Hussell said, it's a marathon. You know,
it's not it's not gonna always be easy. You know,
you just got to keep going and then you're gonna
eventually get to the finish line. And what that finish
line is or the journey, you'll never know.
Speaker 1 (46:43):
I feel like running that race is what has kept
you focused. It's kept you from crashing out, for sure.
I really feel that way, because you know, we've seen
moments where it's like, you know, I feel like saying
about the loser a little bit, but I feel like
the vision of what your attempting to do with marathon
is what keeps you.
Speaker 4 (47:02):
From doing it.
Speaker 2 (47:05):
I think for sure, man, I.
Speaker 1 (47:06):
Think I think about that one incident when the marathon
Berger opened up. You showed a lot of poise when
you you escorted a dude out of there.
Speaker 2 (47:13):
Yep, yep, I think, yeah, oh boy, we know him
and we got love for him. So it was just
a time or certain things that had to get addressed,
like man, we're not doing that. But yeah, I mean God,
God been good man and been putting certain things in
front of us and then keeping other things from in
(47:35):
front of us, which is which is good because sometimes
you can't do nothing but just react. So I've been
trying to put myself in the space of just let's work,
and then every now and then you just can't avoid it.
And then at that point it be like, man, fuck it.
We ain't putting none of this success or anything in
front of what we're supposed to do. So you know,
I'll just be like God, if you let me run
(47:55):
into these people, it's going down. If not, I'm gonna
just take it as you know, it's thank you. But
other than that, man, we focused. We ain't really you know,
we ain't focus on other people. We focus on what
we're doing like always, and we wish everybody the best
and wish people's success and just no be grateful. Hopefully
nobody come in our lane and now they're gonna have
(48:18):
to get their head.
Speaker 3 (48:19):
But I was how surprising was like when you had
so many celebrities come to the spot, and not just
hip hop celebrities, right cause you expect that, Like when
you have Stevie Wonder pulling up and how do you
know what the order? Like, how do you go number one?
Speaker 4 (48:33):
Like what did he point to on the line?
Speaker 2 (48:35):
Right right? I think, man, it's big to me. It's
a testament to Bro Man and the inspiration and people
just showing support for Bro and really what the brand
stands for and everybody man all walks of life, like
you said, come out and show love. And I'll be
always surprised that.
Speaker 7 (48:56):
You need to call yo.
Speaker 3 (48:57):
Stevie Want is here right now and you I'm about.
Speaker 2 (49:00):
Yeah, we was in there. And actually somebody from our
camp is close to bro family, close to his team,
and you know, I think Stevie found out the Hustle
was a big fan. Stevie did something at the funeral,
so they reached out and it was like, man, Stevie
Wonder want to pull up, So we're like, man, thank you.
(49:21):
So just all you'd be surprised how many different people
in the network that that that that Bro has and
friends of family they reach out and they just show
love and just want to, you know, show support and
that and that always tells me the type of person
that Bro was.
Speaker 1 (49:41):
What's what's one lesson that you hear from Nip in
your head every day, both of y'all.
Speaker 2 (49:49):
For me, man, it's just life is a marathon. Man,
run a lot. You know, this ship is not gonna
be easy. It's not gonna be just everything all there
for you. You know, from the outside looking in. You know,
when you're doing a good job, it makes everybody think
it's easy or makes everybody think like, oh man, they
got it. But you know, in real life, you gotta
do the work and just get up breacka day man,
(50:12):
regardless of where you at.
Speaker 5 (50:13):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (50:13):
You know, I always see also telling multiple people on
videos too, and he told us, man, you just got
to start. You got to start. It started, and then
by the time you look up, you know, you be
so much closer to where you're trying to get to.
But just start, how about you?
Speaker 7 (50:29):
Yeah, I agree the same things.
Speaker 5 (50:32):
I feel like every day, even coming up here, you know,
Lincoln with y'alls tired as it only like three hours
of sleep, but every day I had that voice like,
you know, wake your game up. It's videos on Instagram.
You can see Bro fove in the morning in the studio.
I'm knocked out somewhere you see, you know, wake your
game up where you at?
Speaker 7 (50:47):
So every day it's get up and keep going.
Speaker 4 (50:50):
Sure it's gonna sound crazy, but have you visited y'all?
Speaker 2 (50:55):
I had a I had a few dreams. I'll be like,
not remembering my dreams, but I had a few dreams, Bro, Yeah,
not that many, though.
Speaker 4 (51:06):
I have had a few conversations.
Speaker 2 (51:09):
Or just yeah, just kind of crazy. Like you know
how dreams be just some crazy stuff.
Speaker 4 (51:16):
But what confirmation that he's that he's good? Basically?
Speaker 6 (51:19):
Yeah, And when you wake up and remember them, is
there anything that's also confirming for you in your real life,
like maybe questions you were trying to answer that you
might have been able to talk to him about what
you can't now.
Speaker 2 (51:30):
Nah, I mean, it's just to be honest, just the dreams,
I'll just be like, damn, that's crazy. It was a
dream with Bro some crazy shit. But it's just like
you know, Bro shooting the gang of Ship and just
making sure people were straight and so then I wake
up and I'm like, damn, what's going on? Like, you
know how dreams don't be making sense. But then it's
like just Bro being a protector or being making sure
(51:52):
that the family was good, make sure everybody's good. It
was kind of what I took that ass. It's like
Bro looking like Rambow and the dream you know what
dream is this? It's like crazy, but that was that
was one of the things. But you know how, at
least my dreams be like you never they be like
(52:12):
dreams you don't know what it's about. But that was
one of them.
Speaker 1 (52:17):
If Nip walked into Marathon Burger today, what would make
him proud?
Speaker 4 (52:20):
And what would he tell y'all to do better?
Speaker 2 (52:23):
Man? I think anytime we did something or something big
hustle will always like smile and be like, man, I
told niggas this ship and be high fiving everybody and
be like, man, these niggas got us fucked up. So
I think Bro would just be happy and then after that,
you know, celebration, be like, man, let's pay pay attention
(52:44):
to the details and make sure, you know, we uphold
the standard. And then he probably would be like, make
sure everybody come in here is feeling respected and appreciate it.
Appreciate it. And so that's one of the things we
try to preach to everybody, like, man, it's not no,
but nobody owe us to come in here and spend
any money. Like we got to make sure people feel
appreciated and they spending their money and don't get caught
(53:07):
up in like the hype of like, oh it's Marathon Burger,
like it's a privilege for somebody that No, we're privileged
that they come in and people are coming to support.
And I think for me, it's important that like Hustle
hustle whole campaign was started out of a trunk and
when he was a teenager with mixtapes and so the
(53:27):
community and the people that supported him. He always wanted
to pay how muche too, and always remind people like
without without the people, he would never even been able
to be started. So I think that's one of the
things he would always probably be telling us to remember,
like remember that we never forget where we came from,
how we even got here, and the support that got
(53:49):
us here.
Speaker 1 (53:50):
I'm glad you said that, And that's what I hope
that's one of the things I hope the doctor addresses
because when people think Nick now, they think about ownership
with so much people forget that he was also talking
about community. I feel like that's part of his message
that gets missed a lot, like the whole neighborhood nip things.
Speaker 4 (54:05):
I hope that gets shown in the DOT.
Speaker 2 (54:07):
No, definitely will man. I think the reason why, at
least in the area people love Hustle so much, from
the aunties, the grandma's, the smokers, the little kids, that
was inspired by Bros because they seen him on every level.
You know, they seen him as a young kid starting
gang banging people like, oh man, what's this young dude doing?
(54:30):
Going down the wrong route and then selling dope, you know,
fighting going to jail and at the same time trying
to do something positive and being able to have success
and then not just leaving actually doing something, employing you know,
people that he grew up with, you know, helping families
(54:53):
and helping you know, family members get off of probation
or get off of parole, and you know doing it
right there, you know, opening stores and just the inspiration
that that showed in that area is you know, unmatched
because you can't buy it. You know, people seen it. It
was like nah, And I think that that was one
(55:17):
of his main things. He's like, nah, I want to
make sure that I inspire the people that came from
what I came from. And so in the documentary that's
one of the big sections because I think it's important.
You know, some people like he inspired a certain generation,
but there may be new generations coming up that may
not have that inspiration or may not even be privy
(55:38):
to the music. So at least they'll be to this
story and be able to see the story and take
inspiration from that.
Speaker 3 (55:45):
Well, let's play something off the album.
Speaker 4 (55:48):
Y'all want to get into y'all want to get into you.
Speaker 7 (55:51):
I feel like it's only getting to that Cardio record.
I just want to know, man.
Speaker 3 (55:55):
We're gonna play a couple besides the card record.
Speaker 7 (55:58):
We got the card already like that.
Speaker 4 (56:00):
I like, Yah, all right, y'all, do y'all do anything
for his his be there. I know it's be there
next week.
Speaker 2 (56:06):
Great, Yeah, man, I think we're doing We're doing a
couple of things to promote the album. It's gonna be
at the Novo. I know Bino got some things going.
And then Collective we'll be doing some things together too.
But I think for me for bro birthday, I'm gonna
just be chilling, you know, at the house. Man. But
(56:27):
the album's coming out the day before, so it's just
just just in alignment. How it happened. We were picking
dates and trying to get records cleared, and you know,
we missed a few dates, and then when it came
up the fourteenth, we was all like, oh man, it
was meant to be. So you know, I'm happy. I'll
be happy that the album will be out, you know,
(56:48):
the day before his birthday, you know, and not to
be all over the place. This album is important, man.
I don't know if I said it already, but Hustle
did this album with Bino top to bottom, and I
remember he gave it to me and so they track
listed it, they sent it to Ali to mix a
(57:08):
master and this is this is one of the things
he was proud of, proud of about, and I'm just
happy that we can put it out and just it
coming on coming out a day before his birthday is
just very important for us. There you have it.
Speaker 3 (57:23):
Thank you brothers for joining us being over man Black
Sam Bino appreciate y'all just the breakfast club. Go morening,
listen into the joint.
Speaker 4 (57:31):
Hold up every day.
Speaker 7 (57:33):
Click yours up the breakfast club
Speaker 2 (57:35):
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