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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Don't know.
Speaker 2 (00:01):
Every day a week, click your ass up the breakfast club.
Speaker 3 (00:05):
You don't finish for y'all done.
Speaker 2 (00:08):
Morning.
Speaker 4 (00:09):
Everybody is dj envy just hilarious, charlamage to God. We
are the breakfast Club. Law La roses here as well.
We got a special guest in.
Speaker 5 (00:16):
The building, legend but b welcome back, brother.
Speaker 3 (00:19):
Thank y'all.
Speaker 6 (00:19):
Man, it's been a while, it's been a long time.
Been a while, man, it's good to be back in
the building.
Speaker 2 (00:23):
With I always wonder how bun is not bigger. You've
been eating trail burgers for a decade plus. I expected
you to game.
Speaker 3 (00:30):
You don't get high on your own supply.
Speaker 2 (00:32):
There you go, Okay, okay, okay.
Speaker 5 (00:35):
How's everything going. How you feeling, man?
Speaker 6 (00:36):
I'm good man, I'm in a good place right now.
You know, business is great, getting ready to open up
the fourth location.
Speaker 3 (00:42):
You know, wife is Wife is good now. You know.
Speaker 6 (00:44):
We had a breast cancer scared with her last year.
You know, it took about a year to get through
that and she's doing very well right now. You know,
all the postcare is pretty much done, so getting back
to some normalcy. She's she's happy to be traveling again
because that was a big concern for us. We didn't
really want her to get like COVID or any type
of communicable disease because that would have delayed all the treatments.
(01:07):
So she just chose to stay home, and you know,
and I tried to stay home as much as I could,
and then she every now and then she'd be like, no,
you should go go handle your business.
Speaker 3 (01:15):
This ain't cheap, so go handle your business.
Speaker 2 (01:18):
So but the last time I saw y'all, I think
I saw your granddaughter's cheerleading competition.
Speaker 6 (01:22):
Yes, yes, we're on Orlando. Yeah, she's graduated in high school.
Now she's getting ready for college.
Speaker 3 (01:30):
That's crazy, that's crazy. We getting old.
Speaker 2 (01:33):
We getting old, Charlotte, I'm happy to be in Is
the only thing worth getting old is not getting old?
Speaker 3 (01:37):
No, No, that's right, that's right. No, that's right.
Speaker 2 (01:39):
Everybody was wondering why you didn't come out at any
of the jay Z shows this weekend. Every time big
pimping drives like, Okay, Bunn definitely about to come out.
Speaker 6 (01:46):
I had some shows myself last weekend, and we were
going to try to come up on Sunday. We were
going to try to get up there to the show
because we were just wanted to see the show.
Speaker 3 (01:56):
I wasn't concerned about performing.
Speaker 6 (01:58):
That's not my place to make those kind the decisions
or make that kind of an ask, you know what
I'm saying. I think that's one of the reasons why
Hovi and I still have a very good relationships, because
I don't really ask it for nothing, you know what
I'm saying. So we just wanted to come up and
see the show, but we couldn't make it work in
time to get here, so that would have been dis
missed it. But again, he still got Paris, he's got friends,
I mean London, he's got La So I'll pop up somewhere.
Speaker 3 (02:21):
I'm sure I'll pop up somewhere.
Speaker 4 (02:22):
That would have been dope because he did diverse, but
it would have been amazing to feel like he did
a Friday night.
Speaker 2 (02:27):
He did Friday.
Speaker 3 (02:28):
I think he did. I think he did it two
different nights because everybody kept hitting me, like you're.
Speaker 5 (02:33):
Aware you for you to come out.
Speaker 3 (02:34):
I'm I'm getting my money, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 6 (02:37):
But shout out to whole man. An amazing, amazing three
day weekend for him in the city. You guys are
having an amazing summer in New York. You got the
Nicks championship, right, you got Mandanni watching the World Cup
with inmates in the in the jail house.
Speaker 5 (02:50):
You know what I'm saying you the final game.
Speaker 6 (02:52):
Crazy New York is having a nice little run this summer.
Speaker 3 (02:56):
I'm happy for y'all.
Speaker 4 (02:57):
How many how many times do you get called to
perform at weddings because the international player is anthemus, it's such.
Speaker 6 (03:03):
A it's absolutely its own revenue stream. It's his own
revenue stream. And that started really right around the end
of COVID. It was when we started getting our first
calls for that, and then we've just been doing them.
And then like like, we'll have a lot of people
that call us for Tilburger caterings. And then if there's
a friend like Gary Owen was, you know, he wanted
(03:23):
burgers at his wedding and he invited me to the
wedding and I was like, you know, I could, I
could rock for you if you want. He was like, oh,
hell yeah, let's do it. So for friends, I kind
of offer it if they're getting married. I kind of
offered because I know it creates a moment. It definitely
creates a moment. But it's yeah no, that's a whole
like outside revenue stream for me that that's a probably
six figure thing a year.
Speaker 4 (03:43):
But I'm calling you because I'm calling you for my
daughter's wedding. Let's do it because that's my favorite song
of all time. Look, you know, I go crazy to
that song. Get the burgers catered and you'll get diverse
for free. You get the song for free. No more, No, no,
that doesn't apply to everybody that's an indie.
Speaker 3 (04:00):
That's like my kids know that.
Speaker 4 (04:02):
Like when we when we're driving in the call, they
want to play dazz music. That's my song and I
appreciate it. We just turned them when the.
Speaker 5 (04:08):
Be drops is just it just feels good.
Speaker 2 (04:10):
That's all you'll travel for catering, right, Oh yeah, absolutely,
I got some family getting married. I'll be that be dope.
Speaker 6 (04:17):
That's nothing man again. Yeah no, no, that's another other
revenue street. Right but yeah no, and I enjoyed doing it.
For one, it's good to watch the union happen, right.
Speaker 3 (04:29):
You know. Wedding is a great room to be in.
Speaker 6 (04:31):
There's a lot of love, a lot of energy, and
to be able to be a part of that is
one thing, but then be able to actually kind of
uplift the moment because a lot of times we don't
tell people I'm coming out right, so it just becomes
a part of Like I think what we've been doing
mainly is they have their first dance and then I
kind of come out as that second song, so and
I try to they try to hide me so people
(04:52):
don't see me, so we don't spoil the surprise for people, and.
Speaker 3 (04:55):
Once I pop out, people know it's a party. Now
it's up now.
Speaker 1 (04:59):
As you've gotten deeper your own union, though, how like
from when the song first dropped to now, as you're
being able to bring that light to people, how has
that like changed or gotten deeper for you because you've
been married for so long.
Speaker 3 (05:09):
No, Like I said, I love watching it because you know,
I have a great marriage. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 6 (05:13):
I love my wife, and I love our relationship and
the family we've been able to build. So you know,
for me, I feel like I get to become a
part of sewing into a new marriage and new family
and hopefully that that you know, is a great moment
for them. But I kind of know what people are
getting themselves into So I love to be a part
(05:33):
of it. I love to be supportive of it, you know,
and I have a relationship typically with the majority of
the people. It's not a lot of cold calls. Yeah,
it's not a lot of cold calls. I typically don't
want to do a lot of those because I don't
really know what the vibe is going to be in
the room. Sometimes you know, it might be an arranged marriage.
I don't know, you know, say, but it's fun. It's
fun to be a part of it. And then obviously,
(05:53):
you know, for me, I get to touch different people
because I've done some things, some performances at weddings where
the guest sometimes like I've done weddings with people where
everybody in a room didn't know who I was. So
it's good to actually utilize that, to be introduced to
a new set of people. And then once they see
(06:15):
it in that scenario, it's like, Oh, I like this guy,
like what he did. Let's go and see what all
he's got going on?
Speaker 5 (06:20):
What keeps you so humble?
Speaker 3 (06:21):
You know?
Speaker 4 (06:22):
The funny thing about bum bonnacoy you and be like
ay and b I didn't know if you have any
free time for us to.
Speaker 3 (06:27):
Come to reference.
Speaker 5 (06:27):
I'm like, bunk, come when you want to come? What
day you works for you? What makes what keeps you
still so damn humble?
Speaker 3 (06:33):
Well, my wife, I'm being very honest.
Speaker 6 (06:35):
You know, my wife does not allow me to get
the big head, you know, and think so much of myself.
And I think it's just really a part of my
character at this point, you know what I'm saying. And
I just like to be supportive of people, lift people up.
But you know, I don't take the friendships and the
relationships I have for granted.
Speaker 3 (06:49):
You know what I'm saying. You guys have always made
this platform.
Speaker 6 (06:52):
Available to me, so I don't want to overutilize that
and then when I really need it, like well, you know,
you would just hear or whatever. So I don't think
I've been on the show for a couple of years.
I have not been at this too. I think the
last time I came up was when we had the
home invasion. Yes, yeah, yeah, you know what I'm saying.
But this is a great platform, especially now you guys
have expanded and grown, you know, so big that I'm like, yo,
(07:15):
we got to make sure when we call them. It's
something that we can really really benefit from. I don't
want to just call y'all and come up people like, so,
what's up? What y'all got going on?
Speaker 2 (07:22):
We appreciate that too, because you've been around for so long.
You have so much wisdom to share. Absolutely, And the
thing I like about you one people always talk about
staying relevant, right You to me have always seemed more
interested in staying useful. Yes, what's the difference.
Speaker 6 (07:35):
Well, staying relevant is where I try to make sure
that what I'm doing is seen and becomes prevalent in
the space. But it's always good to make yourself available
to people because they may have more of a draw
than I do, you know what I'm saying. So if
I can make myself available to the majority of the
people that are in the industry that I'm in, I
can utilize that in other ways. You know, I got
(07:56):
to do the Jack boyce too. You know, I was
able to rate the Jack Boys two project, was able
to be a part of Bryson Tiller's project. So those
artists have a lot more motion than me and the
music industry at this time. But so that kind of
thing helps keep me relevant to people, and so I
get a two For one, the relevance comes just from
being associated, but being chosen as a whole bigger to me,
(08:18):
it's it's it's a bigger situation, you know what I'm saying,
Just that people think, like, Yo, we think your voice
would help our project.
Speaker 3 (08:25):
That's a great thing for me.
Speaker 2 (08:26):
Have you picked up any in Vegas yet?
Speaker 3 (08:29):
I did? I did, so, I went on, I went
on the weekend. I performed on the first night and
we did a Trap of Dying.
Speaker 6 (08:39):
Then I did play as Anthem and then Lake hit
me like like later that night, like, yo, you want
to stay another night? You want to do it? Like
because you just kind of killed it. He was like,
you want to do it the next night? So I
stayed for the next night, not knowing that the next
night was going to be fab and Usher. And then
like Kevin Hart was in the crowd, Mojo Brooks was
in the crowd. So we ended up having a great
(09:00):
time together. You know what I'm saying. I'm a big
Mojo Brooks fan. You know what I'm saying. His crowd
work is crazy. But yeah, no, it's good to be appreciated.
And you know, Jeezi and I have been connected literally
since the earliest days of his career. We have so
much history together. Just you know, he'd be like, yo,
you ready, let's do it. Because I was waiting for
the call, right I'm at the crib, like yo, I
know he gonna call at some point. And then the show,
(09:22):
the first run was a little short, and then they
extended to run. I was like, Okay, now I'm gonna
get that call. Now I'm gonna get that call. And
it was great rocking with him. I told him, I said,
I could have looked at maybe one hundred other rappers
that I think Las Vegas would have been drawn to
before him, based on the subject matter of a lot
of his music. But when you go to the show,
(09:42):
it feels like you're in the twenties or something because
these are all street people, but they're clean and gangsters
have always dressed up for the occasion. Gangsters have no
problem putting on suits and tuxedos. They love living that life,
they love dressing that women up. And that's what it was.
It was really like a gainst the convention almost kind
of thing. But he's got a great thing going on.
I think the production is amazing. That's what really blew
(10:04):
me away. The stage production. I don't want to give
away it because I know some people haven't seen it,
but the way they present the show, the way the
orchestra is set up, like it's a really really crazy
thing that he's doing.
Speaker 2 (10:14):
And the reason I adds is for me, like you're
very synonymous with Jez's career to me, especially early on,
because you got a legend like Bunbee who was on
some of them early records like over Here and of
course travior Die and all of that, it really stamped
Gez in a real way. It made us pay attention
even more.
Speaker 3 (10:30):
To me, well, we had a mutual friend. I got
D Money.
Speaker 6 (10:33):
Shout out to D Money, and he was the one
that connected me with Jeezi to do over here in
a relationship like we just it just took off from
there and so he was like, Yo, let's let's do
another song. And then I started coming out with him,
and you know, the friendship just grew over the years,
and I'm really happy for what's happening for I don't
want to say proud, because I knew it was going
(10:53):
to happen eventually, but you know, to see him come
this far and have that that that moment. You know
what I'm saying, Vegas. Everybody doesn't really get that, you
know what I'm saying. Very few people from hip hop
for sure. And so I was really really excited to
be a part of that and it.
Speaker 3 (11:08):
Paid off crazy. It paid off greatly.
Speaker 2 (11:09):
Man, did you know trappad Dye was going to be
that when you first heard it?
Speaker 3 (11:12):
I did. I did knew it was going to be that.
And it's crazy because I did that. I did. I
did two songs that day in the studio.
Speaker 6 (11:20):
I was there to do Trappide and then I went
to the bathroom and I saw Gucci Mane in the
hallway and he was like, what you're doing. I'm like,
I'm doing something with Jeezy and he was like, Yo,
I'm doing the Black t Remix.
Speaker 3 (11:31):
You want to jump on it?
Speaker 6 (11:32):
So I just went across the room to the other
room and knocked that out, you know what I'm saying.
So I just been a very very blessed man in
this industry, you know what I'm saying, to have these
kind of relationships and to have them carry on, Like
I don't like to just make a moment friend. I
like to make a forever friend, because you never know
how that relationship is going to go.
Speaker 3 (11:50):
Who's going to need you? Who?
Speaker 5 (11:51):
I think you do that so well.
Speaker 4 (11:52):
I think the one thing about one is everybody respects
and love Bunny, like you always show love. If you're
in the town, you're gonna pull up, You're going to
say how your family is, like You've done it on
numerous occasions.
Speaker 6 (12:01):
Well, I like to make sure people have a good
time in town too, So like I've always for years,
when artists will come to town, especially new artists, I would
go pick them up, write them around. Because there's not
a lot of people that can get a pass in
every neighborhood in the city. So some people are good
on the south side, some I'm a good on the
north side, the Southwest or whatever.
Speaker 3 (12:20):
I'm good in every neighborhood.
Speaker 6 (12:21):
So whatever it is they want to see in the
city of Houston, I make sure they see it.
Speaker 5 (12:26):
Now, you doing your thirtieth anniversary show? Yes on the first.
What does that mean to you?
Speaker 6 (12:30):
I can believe that this album is still being appreciated.
I'll be honest, you know, as a black man, I
didn't even I didn't even plan to be fifty, you
know what, I'm saying, like, I'm fifty three now.
Speaker 3 (12:40):
I didn't plan for.
Speaker 6 (12:41):
My career to last over thirty plus years, you know
what I'm saying. So all of this is a blessing
to me. So I'm just happy to still be here
and be appreciated. And it's crazy that our nominal album,
Dirty Ryan Dirty is thirty years now, and I don't
think it's any less impactful than it was in that moment.
I think what we created with that album musically, lyrically,
(13:03):
and culturally still speaks to people. It still resonates with people.
So now here we are celebrating it thirty years later,
everybody still is happy and excited about the project, and
so we wanted to we wanted to celebrate it the
right way because I've noticed, like, you know, I'll wake
up one day and somebody'd be like, oh man, super
Tight is twenty seven years old or something like that.
I'd be like, Wow, that's crazy that we've we've made
(13:26):
it this far for so long. And so with Rotten Dirty,
we realized that this was going to be the thirty
year Anniverse. I was like, that's nominal. We got to
celebrate that. We got to celebrate that in the right way.
So our ideas because you know, of course, you know
PIMC isn't here anymore rest in peace and also missed
the three two isn't here anymore? Who is you know,
a very big part of this album. You know, we
considered making three two a part of UGK for a while,
(13:48):
but it just didn't work out that way. And so
with this, I was like, well, I don't want to
be doing Pimpc's versus and be doing three twos versus
and three twos hook. So let's bring in celebrity acts
to come in and form these songs with us and
make it a little bit more impactful on the evening.
And so that's what we've been doing, and we've had
a great response from people, you know, A Ball and them, JG,
(14:09):
Big crit you know, David Banner, Slim Thug.
Speaker 3 (14:13):
You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 6 (14:14):
We've had a lot of great people agree to be
a part of this album because of what the album
meant to them as well, you know what I'm saying.
And that's a beautiful thing to have, that reciprocation of
sewing into people and having those.
Speaker 5 (14:24):
People a lot of pressure too for them.
Speaker 6 (14:26):
Yeah, so I came up with a system so that
everybody would be okay, because I thought maybe some of
these dudes don't know the verse or anything like that.
And I was very shocked at the majority of people
we asked were like, Yo, we know this album, we
know these songs. That's not a problem. Just tell me
when and where and we're showing up. And that's a
great thing. That's a great feeling to get that kind
of not only love and agreement to be a part
(14:48):
of the show, but the idea of it. Seems like
everybody I've been asking this album actually means something to
those people. And we've been trying to pick people that
tonally and subject matter, subject no matter I should say,
make it makes sense. So like when we put Slim
Thug on it, I'm like, Slim, you're going to do
this song because that's the kind of music that you
make for yourself. And so that's what we've been trying
(15:10):
to do, is make sure that the energy feels right.
I didn't just want to pick people just because they
were famous or well known and would sell a lot
of tickets on the moment. In the moment, on the day,
I needed to all make sense, and so we did
a really good job. I think of picking people not
only to be a part of it, but picking them
specifically for what their target audience kind of speaks to
(15:30):
what they speak to I'm sorry to their target audience,
and then picking a song that's pretty much in line
with that.
Speaker 2 (15:35):
But you know, grief isn't linear, so it got to
be hard to do that project.
Speaker 6 (15:39):
Well, you know, the crazy thing is that, you know,
Ryan Dirty starts with one day, So if there's going
to be a difficult moment, it's going to be that.
So once we get to that point, and we get
past that point, then we can move on and from
that point on because the first song is the first
song we perform, is going to be one day, and
then after that it's murdered.
Speaker 3 (15:58):
So once we get to murder, we're going we're on
a run.
Speaker 2 (16:01):
Now, that's one of your best verses too. I appreciate
what's something because the one thing I like about you
know you've always honored PIMC. But it's not like you
let grief define the identity of UGK, right, Like, what's something?
Losing him taught you that success never could?
Speaker 6 (16:17):
Well, I think it was it was, it was, It
wasn't even really losing him. I think the test run,
obviously for having to to continue without him was when
he went to prison, and so because of that we
had to figure out a way of carrying on his
name and keeping him alive musically so that when he
came home the group would still have some weight on it,
some motion to it. And honestly, he came home more
(16:39):
popular than he was before he went in, because you know,
we did the free PIMC movement, which was accepted by
everyone blowing up at their time, and so when we
lost him, we was like, well, we know, we know
how to continue. We just got to have the strength
to continue. And that took a couple of days. Like
I tried to do a show, a memorial show for him,
(16:59):
probably within the first two months of in passing, and
that probably was the hardest moment. But it's not the
music that really that really kind of makes me emotional.
It's not being able to talk. There's like, you know,
cars that I look at now, like your Pemp would
have had a Bugatti. Pep would have had this, he
would have had at forty or something like that. And
so those are the things that I hate that he
(17:19):
didn't get to be a part of and like that.
But it's very random, Like it's very random moments when
I get emotional about him, you know, because I don't
really listen. I'm not facetious. I don't really listen to
myself like that, So it's not like I'm riding around
listening to UGK. But it'll be in conversation with different
people and somebody will be like, you know, like I
talked to Bundy from the group X Mob. I mean
(17:39):
we're very close and he lost his partner as well
to cancer. Recipes vicious, and we just talk about the
moments that we shared with these artists and things that
we went through in those days, and in those moments,
you know, we find the time to laugh about it.
But then it's it does get emotional, you know what
I'm saying, And I just I think about like social media,
like I think social media would have been a blessed
(18:00):
and then it curse to Pimp, right because I look
at like what Boosie was doing, you know what I'm
saying with the girls and all of them, like Pimp
would have absolutely been a part of that. But then
also Pimp had a very sharp tongue, so I feel
like we probably would have got into it with people
because he used to just speak right. He didn't really
have a filter like that, and so he would very
very regularly comment about people in different things. So I
(18:22):
felt like maybe that would have complicated some things. I
feel like we would have had some definitely had some
beef because he would have said something about somebody, you know,
just feeling a certain way, and then we would have
had to deal with that.
Speaker 3 (18:33):
But to be fair, that was a part of the
whole point of UGK.
Speaker 6 (18:37):
Right, Like, we got into it with a lot of people,
and some of those things rectified themselves, some of them didn't.
I mean, we moved on and whatnot. But you know,
I just I'm glad that we get to celebrate him
in this way with this concert. And so that's really
why I wanted to let everybody know because UGK fans
are not just from Texas, They're not just from Louisiana.
(18:58):
There's fans of PIMC. I remember going to on tour
in Japan and the kid flew over to from Korea
because he had a Pimpse tattoo on his arm. So
you never really know how far your energy and your
movement carries around this world. So I just want to
keep the energy going. And I think this is a
great way to not only celebrate him, to celebrate this album.
And you know, one of our biggest moments ever.
Speaker 1 (19:20):
As you guys, or as you're putting together the show
with your team and you're reflecting, what do you think
would have been one of the biggest things that would
have wowed him as you guys would have been able
to reflect together.
Speaker 6 (19:30):
To just the fact that the album still resonates, right, Like,
we were very careful to not timestamp things. So he
would talk about driving the bench, but he would want
to talk about like a six hundred because he knew
Ben's Mercedes was always going to make a six hundred, right,
you know what I'm saying. So we tried not to
be like riding in a ninety six Binge or a
ninety eight beam or anything like that, keeping things very general.
(19:54):
You know, you got to stick to a theme, you know,
and this album was very thematic, and the things that
we talked about on Ride and Dirty, we were some
of the first people to really talk about that, like
the screw tapes and things like that, and riding in
the slabs trying to spread that culture around the country
and eventually around the world. And so this album is
(20:15):
a lot more impactful than we gave it credit for
at the time, because when we were talking about it,
it was something that everybody in the city was starting
to gravitate to. And now we look and the whole
world is talking about drink. The whole world and the
artists all over the country are sampling DJ Screwed, you
know what I'm saying. So a lot of what we
talked about in that album and exposed to the world
on the grander scale, still resonates today.
Speaker 3 (20:38):
You know, even unfortunately, like.
Speaker 6 (20:40):
The syrup stuff, like people are still zip a syrup,
you know what I'm saying, And that's our culture, you know,
hated I love it. That's our culture and we love
representing it. And I'm glad that that's something that people
still appreciate us representing, even though a lot of people
from my age group don't really sip anymore. But this
this gives everybody a chance to go back to ninety
six for a day. You know, we're all parent and
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some of us are grandparents, you know what I'm saying,
So we don't really get to go out like that.
The clubs obviously don't really speak to us in that
way right now, the music doesn't really speak to us
in that way.
Speaker 3 (21:08):
So everybody gets to go back to ninety six for
one night and remember when they didn't have all the
responsibilities in their life, you know what I'm saying, Like,
you know, you get some get somebody to babysit the
kids or the grandkids, and then come out and you know,
put your dickeys on and celebrate.
Speaker 2 (21:22):
Nostalgia is the greatest dopamine hit ever.
Speaker 3 (21:25):
It really is.
Speaker 2 (21:26):
And I only plan to go to one night at
jay Z, which was the reasonable doubt night. I was
on such a high from that Friday, I ended up
going the whole week.
Speaker 6 (21:34):
Why not, you know what I'm saying, especially if you
have access to do that, you know what I'm saying,
because you got the bag, you could afford that.
Speaker 3 (21:39):
Yeah, yeah, you're doing good to go see g.
Speaker 2 (21:42):
I'm going to see j Z and Mary in the
same weekend.
Speaker 3 (21:45):
That's it. That's a big thing, because I want.
Speaker 2 (21:46):
That dopa mean hit because I forgot. I'm not gonna
say I forgot, But sometimes we get so caught up
in this algorithm world that you forget what real life
connection feels like.
Speaker 6 (21:56):
Absolutely, and it's it's good to be in a room
where everybody's there for the same reason.
Speaker 3 (22:00):
Right.
Speaker 6 (22:00):
Sometimes when you go to some of these things, different
people have different agendas for the evening, but that's that's
gonna be one of those nights where everybody's there for
the same thing in the same way, so everybody gets
to appreciate it. You're gonna make friends, you know what
I'm saying. You're gonna be next to somebody because I
seen it at the Jeezy shows. You know where people are.
You know, certain songs come on and then everybody is
singing that song and you see dudes next to each
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other and they rap into each other and all of that.
Speaker 3 (22:24):
I love that type of feeling.
Speaker 6 (22:25):
I love that energy, and that's kind of what we
want to create because we know that everybody that comes
to this show on August first is a fan of
the album that we're performing. And then we got some
special surprises throughout throughout the show as well, so it's
it's gonna be an amazing evening. I'm really excited about
what being able to pull off.
Speaker 4 (22:42):
Now with all the hats that Bumbee has from Chilburgers
to everything that you do.
Speaker 5 (22:47):
What do you enjoyed the most.
Speaker 6 (22:48):
Of Papa being a grandfather, being a.
Speaker 4 (22:52):
Grand because you can bring them back when you when
you finish well, it's it's it's a lot of this
stuff is different now.
Speaker 6 (22:59):
So when when I creating music and doing that, the
kids couldn't really be a part of that in that way, right.
They could see the creation of the stuff, they could
see the performances, but they couldn't really contribute with the Burgers. Now,
like my granddaughter works for trill Burgers, my niece works
for tril Burgers, my nephew works for trill Burgers, my
manager's daughter works for tril Burgers, so all of these
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my daughter works for trill Burgers now from an administrative aspect,
and so everybody gets to be a part of this now,
you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3 (23:26):
So with the music, you know.
Speaker 6 (23:28):
They could appreciate it in that but if they don't
have any like musical talent, they can't contribute to that legacy.
But with this there's a place for anybody that wants
to be a part of this company. And being from
the Pawpat side, man, I'll be honest man, just having
a house and having the kids come over and just
having fun and being able to be like, yeah, you
used to do that same thing when you were her
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age or his age. So it's a beautiful thing to
just watch this family grow and to be able to
be like, you know what, We're not going to go
out of town this weekend. We're gonna stay here, bring
the kids over, have a good time, cooks some food,
and just enjoy life. And that's a beautiful thing to
have lived this long and have gotten this far and
be in a position to be like if I want to,
because I'm the boss now, I can just be like,
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you know what, we're not doing that this weekend. We're
gonna spend time with the family. That can wait till
Monday or Tuesday, but this weekend we're gonna have fun.
Speaker 2 (24:18):
And I bet you the burgers ain't even what they
love to eat when they come over. It's probably something
else you cook put on that grill.
Speaker 6 (24:23):
Well, I'll be honest, my wife is an amazing cook.
So they don't come to my house wanting to burger.
If they want a burger, we can go to the restaurant.
But if they want to eat with Granny and Paw part.
They want to come to the house. They want Granny
to cook because my wife.
Speaker 3 (24:35):
Cooks really good soul food.
Speaker 6 (24:37):
She cook a lot of food that I don't really eat, like,
you know, like I don't eat collar greens and stuff
like that.
Speaker 1 (24:43):
I don't since forever or just recently.
Speaker 6 (24:46):
No, no, never, No, I'm pretty sure.
Speaker 2 (24:53):
We don't even understand.
Speaker 6 (24:54):
It's a texture thing for me. Like I'll eat raw spinach,
but I won't eat cook spinach. I just it's it's
like a slimy type of thing. And that really started
with okra.
Speaker 2 (25:04):
Even I only eat turkey. Next, bro, what else don't
you eat?
Speaker 6 (25:09):
I don't want to get into it. I don't eat liver.
I don't want to get you deep into it.
Speaker 3 (25:12):
Right.
Speaker 5 (25:13):
But it's not like he's from New York.
Speaker 6 (25:15):
Like my wife makes a great gumbo, but she always
put okra in it, so I'm hesitant to eat it
because what okra is slimy to me. I gotta tell you,
it's a texture thing for me. That's it, you know
what I'm saying.
Speaker 3 (25:27):
But what I like to eat. My wife cooks for me,
and she cooks very well.
Speaker 6 (25:30):
But on Sundays She'll typically cook like an old school
soul food dinner, and then the whole family will come
over and eat, and I'll be like, yeah, I'm finna
go get some wings.
Speaker 3 (25:38):
I'll be back.
Speaker 6 (25:41):
But but again, that's that she cooks those meals for
her because that's what she likes to eat. She was
raised by her grandmother, so that's kind of a lot
of what she she was taught to cook.
Speaker 3 (25:49):
And I just don't get in the way with that.
Speaker 6 (25:50):
Just because I don't eat, it doesn't mean that somebody's
not going to appreciated.
Speaker 2 (25:55):
That's all she That's not when I took me in
my adulthood.
Speaker 3 (26:00):
But yeah, there's there's a lot of things I don't eat.
I don't eat the chillens.
Speaker 5 (26:05):
I'm never I still.
Speaker 1 (26:08):
I can't give up.
Speaker 2 (26:09):
I don't know really what. Yes, I love it when.
Speaker 6 (26:14):
They're cooking chicklin's. Yeah I gotta go. Yeah, Yeah, I
don't want.
Speaker 4 (26:18):
To smell it for what New Year's Eves would make
it Christmas thanks Giving me.
Speaker 1 (26:23):
Fried chicken, that's like a good luck thing.
Speaker 6 (26:27):
No, they do cabbage us we do black eyed piece
of cabbage, and don't I don't eat cabbage.
Speaker 1 (26:31):
Okay, I can I understand that's extra average.
Speaker 6 (26:34):
Yeah, there's a lot of things that that typically black
people love to eat and that I don't eat.
Speaker 3 (26:38):
But again, at a.
Speaker 6 (26:39):
Very young age, I was like, when I get old
and I get money, I'm not eating none of the
slave food.
Speaker 3 (26:42):
Like I'm not eating no tripe. I'm not eating none
of this. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 6 (26:46):
I'm eating steak, you know, and potatoes and pork chops
and fried chicken or whatever you know.
Speaker 3 (26:51):
But I don't knock it when she cooks it.
Speaker 6 (26:53):
I don't knock it because I know I'm the minority
that no one else feels like I feel when my
wife cooks.
Speaker 3 (26:58):
Everybody's ready for when my wife cooks.
Speaker 1 (27:00):
People probably so surprising when they're like first time guests
at your house and she'd throw down and you you'd
be like, well.
Speaker 6 (27:05):
Yeah, I might have the mac and cheese and some
beans or whatever and like maybe.
Speaker 2 (27:09):
One meat, but yeah, nah, I don't like mac and cheese.
Speaker 3 (27:12):
Okay, now you gotta go.
Speaker 5 (27:13):
You don't like macache. It's just cheese as with the stomach.
Speaker 2 (27:16):
It definitely like those dollar but I just don't like it.
Speaker 6 (27:19):
But that's dietary though, Like I can understand that if
it's a dietary restriction, of course you.
Speaker 3 (27:23):
Wouldn't want to eat it.
Speaker 6 (27:24):
But no, like just on the idea of not wanting
to eat mac and cheese, I think that's I think that.
I think that's something that's more palatable than kyl of
greens by a long way.
Speaker 2 (27:34):
Things give, and I get the stuff in. I like stuffing.
I like the yams, but the maga cheese I'm cool
on that. The turkey next, Yes, up.
Speaker 6 (27:41):
I'm starting to have a bit of aversion to dressing
now because the gizzards. Like like when I cook my
when I fix my plate, I got to pick every
gizzet out of the dressing.
Speaker 2 (27:54):
Yeah, okayod I love chicken gizzards.
Speaker 3 (27:58):
Yeah, I can't with that. And you said that with
confidence like I do.
Speaker 1 (28:04):
I'm just thinking about how she cook them on this weekend.
Speaker 2 (28:06):
I might have to get like that.
Speaker 6 (28:08):
But I think a lot of that food. To be honest,
I feel like that's more relational. Yeah, when you use
certain food, it kind of brings you back and makes
you thinks about relationships you had with people that maybe
on here anymore.
Speaker 1 (28:18):
Yes, And that's why to me, even like when I
see you at because I've never been to the Houston Rodeo,
but every year when it's happening, and like you're there
and now your Burger spot is there, and then you're
taking the stage, you're doing different things. I know you
didn't perform this year, right right? I think about that,
like even seeing Miss Tina at the Rodeo too. I'm like,
this has to be very like relational for the people
that are from where y'all are from.
Speaker 6 (28:38):
Oh, absolutely, because you know, the Rodeo I think is
on that ninety third year of existence, so it's been
something that most of us grew up in. Like we
all went to the Rodeo at a certain point, like
your family would take you, your school would take you.
We used to go there and do like you know,
I guess they call it cosplay now, but like you
would go there and they would give you like a
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vest and a hat and stuff like that to put
on so you could take a cowboy picture.
Speaker 3 (29:02):
But now, no, it's twenty one days. Wow.
Speaker 6 (29:06):
Wow, it's twenty one days and every day has a
concert in the football stadium. So they averaged like sixty
thousand people, sixty five thousand people at night.
Speaker 1 (29:14):
How come you didn't do the stage this year.
Speaker 6 (29:16):
I wasn't asked you, I don't. It's not my choice
to whether I want to do the Rodeo or not.
Speaker 1 (29:20):
It seems so synonymous, where like you're like, because you
have the stage where you bring out artists and it's
normally like the Heritage.
Speaker 3 (29:26):
Night, right, Yeah, Black Heritage.
Speaker 1 (29:28):
I thought that that was like sett and Stonnach, that
is your thing.
Speaker 2 (29:30):
People come for that.
Speaker 6 (29:31):
I mean it was because we did it so well
the first year they asked us to come back. We
improved on the concept. They asked us to come back again,
and we kind of knocked it out the park on
that third run for real, because that's when Drake offered
himself to the show, you know, and we were able
to bring some artists that the Rodeo doesn't really have
a connection to in that way, or even in the
case of Drake, they can't afford to pay up an
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artist like that to come. So he saw the kind
of cultural impact we would have and in the moment,
and of course he loved to be a part of
of pretty much anything that Houston that's Houston centric, so
he was like, yo, I got to come and do
your riddo, but he didn't understand the scale of it
because he's like, yo, I can bring my stage. I
was like, nah, we got a crazy stage, and well
I can bring pow rolls. Like, well, we got powo.
But if you want more, that's fine. We just need
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your presence, you know what I'm saying. So, but it's
been a beautiful partnership with them, and even when I
didn't perform this year, we still get to do the
burgers and the tenders on site, which to me, as
long as we have that, I'm still in play, you
know what I'm saying. But even if I never did
it again, which I'm not wishing or hoping for that, right,
I love to go back at some point, But even
if I never did it again, four shows in a row,
as I was the first black man from Houston to
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headline the rodeo, it.
Speaker 2 (30:39):
Was like your thing. After that, it was.
Speaker 6 (30:40):
Like everybody assumed that, like people think this year, everybody
came thinking it was my rodeo, Like people from outside
of the state think that this is a rodeo that
I put on that happens on the weekend or whatever,
and it's much bigger than that. Like I said, there's
twenty one nights. There's a multitude of artists that perform.
A lot of them are country based, but they do EDM,
they do R and B, they do throwback shows.
Speaker 3 (31:03):
You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 6 (31:03):
I'm just happy to be able to put myself on
that stage. And when we first got actually do it,
we're like, we got to share this moment because we
never know if we'll be back.
Speaker 3 (31:11):
So I tried to put as.
Speaker 6 (31:12):
Many people from Houston on that stage where I felt
should be able to be seen and be appreciated in
that moment because they've been as contributive to the culture
as I have. So we just made a whole Houston
night the first year. Then they brought us back. We're like, okay,
well let's do a Southern night. Then they brought us
back again, so then we did an American night, you
know what I'm saying. And so it's been a fun
experiment to do and I've been blessed to be a
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part of it. And the city benefits because now there's
an influx of people that come in for that weekend.
So now they consider it like Black Rodeo weekend, even
though there's only one Black Show for the entire thing
this year. They had two black artists. They had Lizzo
and they had Shaboozi. You know what I'm saying. So,
and I've been very careful, like to like, they always
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wanted to put me on Black Heritage Night, but I
felt like if I allowed them to do that, then
no one else would get that night. So but it's
been amazing. It's been an amazing experiment. You know, I'm
glad they had me, and if they never bring me back,
I'm good. I made some good money, so it made
some even bigger impacts. So that's that's pretty much it
for me. I can figure it out from there.
Speaker 2 (32:16):
But do you think hip hop has lost his eldest
I have younger artists to stop.
Speaker 6 (32:20):
Look the I think what we're doing is we're targeting
the wrong way. I don't think that you should be
trying to bring in new fans. You should be trying
to make a deeper connection with the fans that you
already had. But that being said, a lot of people,
a lot of my contemporaries, didn't jump on the digital
era as soon as they should, and I was late
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to it and still was able to benefit from it,
but I feel like a lot of my contemporaries did
not embrace it. I think they kind of looked at
it different and they didn't really know how to navigate
promotion and marketing and sales in this digital space where
people don't actually physically go in the record store and
buy music anymore, and that was pretty much off putting
for people. They didn't really know how to adjust to
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the new times, and I think by the time they
did start to figure it out and want to adjust
and want to be a part of it, there was
a little bit of a delay and there was a
lack of connection in that space.
Speaker 3 (33:13):
So I think my age group primarily is in Facebook.
Speaker 6 (33:17):
You know, some of them have Instagram, and that's fine,
but I think the more, the more direct way to
communicate with our age basis Facebook. But I don't think
Facebook is as attractive, you know what I'm saying to
many artists as an Instagram or a TikTok but then.
Speaker 5 (33:32):
Easy to get to an ig than Facebook at times.
Speaker 6 (33:34):
Absolutely, But then the way that I feel like the
way that Instagram and TikTok operates does not lend itself
to having that older mentality, and you find yourself doing
things that are not within your character. Like I'm not
finna get on social media and start doing these TikTok dances,
but I'll do a line dance because that's my age group,
you know what I'm saying, And we all do those
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at parties and trail rides and stuff like that. So
you just gotta find that space that works for you
and be good with that, be comfortable with that. We're
never going to sell what we used to, sol We're
never going to impact in the way that we used to.
So it's just a matter of being smart enough to
just keep yourself in front of the people that know
you and love you and appreciate you, and then you know,
and you know, make good with that, and if you
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need a side also, go get a side out. So
I'm cooking burgers on the side, you know what I'm saying.
That that offsets the loss of income that maybe I
would have had by not having a connection to this
much younger fan base.
Speaker 3 (34:27):
They don't want to hear my music.
Speaker 6 (34:28):
And even if I did go and say, like ask
Future for a verse, I'm sure Future would give me
a verse, But I don't know if futures fan base
wants to hear me with him.
Speaker 3 (34:36):
I don't know if my fan base wants to hear
him with me. So you don't really get.
Speaker 6 (34:39):
To benefit from that kind of a thing even if
you even if you have the access to it.
Speaker 2 (34:43):
You know, you're owning a burger franchise on the side.
Speaker 6 (34:47):
Yeah, yeah, I mean it's growing, you know, it's growing.
Speaker 1 (34:50):
So like you're like they would people wanted like if
you got on TikTok and didn't do like, we don't
want to see you doing all the dances on all.
Speaker 2 (34:58):
Of those things, right, No, but if you.
Speaker 1 (35:01):
Know, if you sat down on TikTok and you did
like I talk like when I watch your interviews, I
feel like I'm always learning something from your interviews about business, navigating,
brand strategy, and just being honest about what I want
to actually do. If you found a short form way
to do that on TikTok, we would listen because you're
one of the others that I feel like we respect,
like we we know you're not gonna do nothing that
you don't want to do. I think it's about how
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you do it. People get on there and be doing
five six, seven, eight.
Speaker 6 (35:25):
And shit, well, if if I find a lane that's
authentic to me in the space that I can you know,
really help people benefit from.
Speaker 3 (35:32):
Then we'll probably we'll probably look into that, you know
what I'm saying.
Speaker 6 (35:35):
But right now, I think I think my company needs
me more than anything right now because I still do shows.
I'm still you know, I'm still on the road, i
still make good money performing. I still you know, get
asked to do a lot of the things. So I'm
not really hurting on that side, you know what I'm saying.
I feel like my energy is really best needed to
build this company.
Speaker 3 (35:53):
You know.
Speaker 2 (35:54):
And what you said too about not you know, targeting,
I guess the youth can just really folk knowing the
people who already rock with you. Yeah, I think that's
the most important thing. I don't think people realize that
the highest spending demo in the US is forty five
to fifty four.
Speaker 6 (36:08):
Well, we're liquid, right, We're liquid. We're working you know,
working class people. We've got money. All we need is time.
So like from like my shows, if we give them
two and a half to three months to get ready
to prepare for it, make sure the kids are going
to be okay, save up their money, you know what,
I'm saying because a lot of times my contemporaries in
my age group, their money is best best utilized in
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other ways, you know what I'm saying. But if we
give them enough time to prepare for the show, they'll come.
They just need enough time to work some shit out,
but they'll come. They got to ask to get off
work that kind of stuff, you know what I'm saying.
So I understand that stuff, and so we try to
lean into that in a way that allows people time
and finances in order to come out and have a
good time.
Speaker 2 (36:49):
And start start time. Start time is important too.
Speaker 6 (36:51):
Oh yeah, yeah, No, you got to start around nine o'clock,
ten o'clock. You ten is late now, well, ten is okay.
But if you start going past, if you go past
midnight or evening, we're done.
Speaker 3 (37:01):
Like you got it. Doors got to be closed by
by man. We didn't have a choice that night.
Speaker 2 (37:07):
I don't have no choice. Yes, yes, said but I
left at one thirty. But I went the whole weekend,
which I couldn't believe I did. But to your point,
there's not a lot of things for us. No, No,
that was something for us. So August first and Houston.
That makes sense to me go see riding thirty.
Speaker 6 (37:21):
They can get the links in my bio, but they
can go to a smart live tx dot com and
they can get tickets there too. But the link is
in my Instagram bio.
Speaker 3 (37:29):
For sure.
Speaker 5 (37:30):
We appreciate you for joining us.
Speaker 3 (37:31):
Brother, man, we appreciate you. Guys. Let me come up
here and talk about this. You know what I'm saying.
It's a beautiful.
Speaker 6 (37:36):
Thing that you guys open up your door on your
platform to me whenever I need it. So I'm going
to try to need it more often, just so I
can see you guys.
Speaker 4 (37:43):
The one you always pull up in anything I'm doing,
whether it's somewhere that you're closed. So if I'm in Houston,
you always pull up just to say what's up?
Speaker 3 (37:50):
Thank you?
Speaker 5 (37:50):
How the family and I really really appreciate it.
Speaker 6 (37:52):
Man, It doesn't It doesn't cost me anything just to
come and say hip, sure people love and bring people
some burgers. Well that bringing you some burgers, my But
the long term benefit works. Long term benefit works. Thank
you all for having me though.
Speaker 5 (38:04):
For real, it's button B It's the Breakfast Club. Good morning,
hold up every day a week ago.
Speaker 3 (38:10):
Click your glass up the Breakfast club you don't finish for.
Y'all done.
Don't know.
Speaker 2 (00:01):
Every day a week, click your ass up the breakfast club.
Speaker 3 (00:05):
You don't finish for y'all done.
Speaker 2 (00:08):
Morning.
Speaker 4 (00:09):
Everybody is dj envy just hilarious, charlamage to God. We
are the breakfast Club. Law La roses here as well.
We got a special guest in.
Speaker 5 (00:16):
The building, legend but b welcome back, brother.
Speaker 3 (00:19):
Thank y'all.
Speaker 6 (00:19):
Man, it's been a while, it's been a long time.
Been a while, man, it's good to be back in
the building.
Speaker 2 (00:23):
With I always wonder how bun is not bigger. You've
been eating trail burgers for a decade plus. I expected
you to game.
Speaker 3 (00:30):
You don't get high on your own supply.
Speaker 2 (00:32):
There you go, Okay, okay, okay.
Speaker 5 (00:35):
How's everything going. How you feeling, man?
Speaker 6 (00:36):
I'm good man, I'm in a good place right now.
You know, business is great, getting ready to open up
the fourth location.
Speaker 3 (00:42):
You know, wife is Wife is good now. You know.
Speaker 6 (00:44):
We had a breast cancer scared with her last year.
You know, it took about a year to get through
that and she's doing very well right now. You know,
all the postcare is pretty much done, so getting back
to some normalcy. She's she's happy to be traveling again
because that was a big concern for us. We didn't
really want her to get like COVID or any type
of communicable disease because that would have delayed all the treatments.
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So she just chose to stay home, and you know,
and I tried to stay home as much as I could,
and then she every now and then she'd be like, no,
you should go go handle your business.
Speaker 3 (01:15):
This ain't cheap, so go handle your business.
Speaker 2 (01:18):
So but the last time I saw y'all, I think
I saw your granddaughter's cheerleading competition.
Speaker 6 (01:22):
Yes, yes, we're on Orlando. Yeah, she's graduated in high school.
Now she's getting ready for college.
Speaker 3 (01:30):
That's crazy, that's crazy. We getting old.
Speaker 2 (01:33):
We getting old, Charlotte, I'm happy to be in Is
the only thing worth getting old is not getting old?
Speaker 3 (01:37):
No, No, that's right, that's right. No, that's right.
Speaker 2 (01:39):
Everybody was wondering why you didn't come out at any
of the jay Z shows this weekend. Every time big
pimping drives like, Okay, Bunn definitely about to come out.
Speaker 6 (01:46):
I had some shows myself last weekend, and we were
going to try to come up on Sunday. We were
going to try to get up there to the show
because we were just wanted to see the show.
Speaker 3 (01:56):
I wasn't concerned about performing.
Speaker 6 (01:58):
That's not my place to make those kind the decisions
or make that kind of an ask, you know what
I'm saying. I think that's one of the reasons why
Hovi and I still have a very good relationships, because
I don't really ask it for nothing, you know what
I'm saying. So we just wanted to come up and
see the show, but we couldn't make it work in
time to get here, so that would have been dis
missed it. But again, he still got Paris, he's got friends,
I mean London, he's got La So I'll pop up somewhere.
Speaker 3 (02:21):
I'm sure I'll pop up somewhere.
Speaker 4 (02:22):
That would have been dope because he did diverse, but
it would have been amazing to feel like he did
a Friday night.
Speaker 2 (02:27):
He did Friday.
Speaker 3 (02:28):
I think he did. I think he did it two
different nights because everybody kept hitting me, like you're.
Speaker 5 (02:33):
Aware you for you to come out.
Speaker 3 (02:34):
I'm I'm getting my money, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 6 (02:37):
But shout out to whole man. An amazing, amazing three
day weekend for him in the city. You guys are
having an amazing summer in New York. You got the
Nicks championship, right, you got Mandanni watching the World Cup
with inmates in the in the jail house.
Speaker 5 (02:50):
You know what I'm saying you the final game.
Speaker 6 (02:52):
Crazy New York is having a nice little run this summer.
Speaker 3 (02:56):
I'm happy for y'all.
Speaker 4 (02:57):
How many how many times do you get called to
perform at weddings because the international player is anthemus, it's such.
Speaker 6 (03:03):
A it's absolutely its own revenue stream. It's his own
revenue stream. And that started really right around the end
of COVID. It was when we started getting our first
calls for that, and then we've just been doing them.
And then like like, we'll have a lot of people
that call us for Tilburger caterings. And then if there's
a friend like Gary Owen was, you know, he wanted
(03:23):
burgers at his wedding and he invited me to the
wedding and I was like, you know, I could, I
could rock for you if you want. He was like, oh,
hell yeah, let's do it. So for friends, I kind
of offer it if they're getting married. I kind of
offered because I know it creates a moment. It definitely
creates a moment. But it's yeah no, that's a whole
like outside revenue stream for me that that's a probably
six figure thing a year.
Speaker 4 (03:43):
But I'm calling you because I'm calling you for my
daughter's wedding. Let's do it because that's my favorite song
of all time. Look, you know, I go crazy to
that song. Get the burgers catered and you'll get diverse
for free. You get the song for free. No more, No, no,
that doesn't apply to everybody that's an indie.
Speaker 3 (04:00):
That's like my kids know that.
Speaker 4 (04:02):
Like when we when we're driving in the call, they
want to play dazz music. That's my song and I
appreciate it. We just turned them when the.
Speaker 5 (04:08):
Be drops is just it just feels good.
Speaker 2 (04:10):
That's all you'll travel for catering, right, Oh yeah, absolutely,
I got some family getting married. I'll be that be dope.
Speaker 6 (04:17):
That's nothing man again. Yeah no, no, that's another other
revenue street. Right but yeah no, and I enjoyed doing it.
For one, it's good to watch the union happen, right.
Speaker 3 (04:29):
You know. Wedding is a great room to be in.
Speaker 6 (04:31):
There's a lot of love, a lot of energy, and
to be able to be a part of that is
one thing, but then be able to actually kind of
uplift the moment because a lot of times we don't
tell people I'm coming out right, so it just becomes
a part of Like I think what we've been doing
mainly is they have their first dance and then I
kind of come out as that second song, so and
I try to they try to hide me so people
(04:52):
don't see me, so we don't spoil the surprise for people, and.
Speaker 3 (04:55):
Once I pop out, people know it's a party. Now
it's up now.
Speaker 1 (04:59):
As you've gotten deeper your own union, though, how like
from when the song first dropped to now, as you're
being able to bring that light to people, how has
that like changed or gotten deeper for you because you've
been married for so long.
Speaker 3 (05:09):
No, Like I said, I love watching it because you know,
I have a great marriage. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 6 (05:13):
I love my wife, and I love our relationship and
the family we've been able to build. So you know,
for me, I feel like I get to become a
part of sewing into a new marriage and new family
and hopefully that that you know, is a great moment
for them. But I kind of know what people are
getting themselves into So I love to be a part
(05:33):
of it. I love to be supportive of it, you know,
and I have a relationship typically with the majority of
the people. It's not a lot of cold calls. Yeah,
it's not a lot of cold calls. I typically don't
want to do a lot of those because I don't
really know what the vibe is going to be in
the room. Sometimes you know, it might be an arranged marriage.
I don't know, you know, say, but it's fun. It's
fun to be a part of it. And then obviously,
(05:53):
you know, for me, I get to touch different people
because I've done some things, some performances at weddings where
the guest sometimes like I've done weddings with people where
everybody in a room didn't know who I was. So
it's good to actually utilize that, to be introduced to
a new set of people. And then once they see
(06:15):
it in that scenario, it's like, Oh, I like this guy,
like what he did. Let's go and see what all
he's got going on?
Speaker 5 (06:20):
What keeps you so humble?
Speaker 3 (06:21):
You know?
Speaker 4 (06:22):
The funny thing about bum bonnacoy you and be like
ay and b I didn't know if you have any
free time for us to.
Speaker 3 (06:27):
Come to reference.
Speaker 5 (06:27):
I'm like, bunk, come when you want to come? What
day you works for you? What makes what keeps you
still so damn humble?
Speaker 3 (06:33):
Well, my wife, I'm being very honest.
Speaker 6 (06:35):
You know, my wife does not allow me to get
the big head, you know, and think so much of myself.
And I think it's just really a part of my
character at this point, you know what I'm saying. And
I just like to be supportive of people, lift people up.
But you know, I don't take the friendships and the
relationships I have for granted.
Speaker 3 (06:49):
You know what I'm saying. You guys have always made
this platform.
Speaker 6 (06:52):
Available to me, so I don't want to overutilize that
and then when I really need it, like well, you know,
you would just hear or whatever. So I don't think
I've been on the show for a couple of years.
I have not been at this too. I think the
last time I came up was when we had the
home invasion. Yes, yeah, yeah, you know what I'm saying.
But this is a great platform, especially now you guys
have expanded and grown, you know, so big that I'm like, yo,
(07:15):
we got to make sure when we call them. It's
something that we can really really benefit from. I don't
want to just call y'all and come up people like, so,
what's up? What y'all got going on?
Speaker 2 (07:22):
We appreciate that too, because you've been around for so long.
You have so much wisdom to share. Absolutely, And the
thing I like about you one people always talk about
staying relevant, right You to me have always seemed more
interested in staying useful. Yes, what's the difference.
Speaker 6 (07:35):
Well, staying relevant is where I try to make sure
that what I'm doing is seen and becomes prevalent in
the space. But it's always good to make yourself available
to people because they may have more of a draw
than I do, you know what I'm saying. So if
I can make myself available to the majority of the
people that are in the industry that I'm in, I
can utilize that in other ways. You know, I got
(07:56):
to do the Jack boyce too. You know, I was
able to rate the Jack Boys two project, was able
to be a part of Bryson Tiller's project. So those
artists have a lot more motion than me and the
music industry at this time. But so that kind of
thing helps keep me relevant to people, and so I
get a two For one, the relevance comes just from
being associated, but being chosen as a whole bigger to me,
(08:18):
it's it's it's a bigger situation, you know what I'm saying,
Just that people think, like, Yo, we think your voice
would help our project.
Speaker 3 (08:25):
That's a great thing for me.
Speaker 2 (08:26):
Have you picked up any in Vegas yet?
Speaker 3 (08:29):
I did? I did, so, I went on, I went
on the weekend. I performed on the first night and
we did a Trap of Dying.
Speaker 6 (08:39):
Then I did play as Anthem and then Lake hit
me like like later that night, like, yo, you want
to stay another night? You want to do it? Like
because you just kind of killed it. He was like,
you want to do it the next night? So I
stayed for the next night, not knowing that the next
night was going to be fab and Usher. And then
like Kevin Hart was in the crowd, Mojo Brooks was
in the crowd. So we ended up having a great
(09:00):
time together. You know what I'm saying. I'm a big
Mojo Brooks fan. You know what I'm saying. His crowd
work is crazy. But yeah, no, it's good to be appreciated.
And you know, Jeezi and I have been connected literally
since the earliest days of his career. We have so
much history together. Just you know, he'd be like, yo,
you ready, let's do it. Because I was waiting for
the call, right I'm at the crib, like yo, I
know he gonna call at some point. And then the show,
(09:22):
the first run was a little short, and then they
extended to run. I was like, Okay, now I'm gonna
get that call. Now I'm gonna get that call. And
it was great rocking with him. I told him, I said,
I could have looked at maybe one hundred other rappers
that I think Las Vegas would have been drawn to
before him, based on the subject matter of a lot
of his music. But when you go to the show,
(09:42):
it feels like you're in the twenties or something because
these are all street people, but they're clean and gangsters
have always dressed up for the occasion. Gangsters have no
problem putting on suits and tuxedos. They love living that life,
they love dressing that women up. And that's what it was.
It was really like a gainst the convention almost kind
of thing. But he's got a great thing going on.
I think the production is amazing. That's what really blew
(10:04):
me away. The stage production. I don't want to give
away it because I know some people haven't seen it,
but the way they present the show, the way the
orchestra is set up, like it's a really really crazy
thing that he's doing.
Speaker 2 (10:14):
And the reason I adds is for me, like you're
very synonymous with Jez's career to me, especially early on,
because you got a legend like Bunbee who was on
some of them early records like over Here and of
course travior Die and all of that, it really stamped
Gez in a real way. It made us pay attention
even more.
Speaker 3 (10:30):
To me, well, we had a mutual friend. I got
D Money.
Speaker 6 (10:33):
Shout out to D Money, and he was the one
that connected me with Jeezi to do over here in
a relationship like we just it just took off from
there and so he was like, Yo, let's let's do
another song. And then I started coming out with him,
and you know, the friendship just grew over the years,
and I'm really happy for what's happening for I don't
want to say proud, because I knew it was going
(10:53):
to happen eventually, but you know, to see him come
this far and have that that that moment. You know
what I'm saying, Vegas. Everybody doesn't really get that, you
know what I'm saying. Very few people from hip hop
for sure. And so I was really really excited to
be a part of that and it.
Speaker 3 (11:08):
Paid off crazy. It paid off greatly.
Speaker 2 (11:09):
Man, did you know trappad Dye was going to be
that when you first heard it?
Speaker 3 (11:12):
I did. I did knew it was going to be that.
And it's crazy because I did that. I did. I
did two songs that day in the studio.
Speaker 6 (11:20):
I was there to do Trappide and then I went
to the bathroom and I saw Gucci Mane in the
hallway and he was like, what you're doing. I'm like,
I'm doing something with Jeezy and he was like, Yo,
I'm doing the Black t Remix.
Speaker 3 (11:31):
You want to jump on it?
Speaker 6 (11:32):
So I just went across the room to the other
room and knocked that out, you know what I'm saying.
So I just been a very very blessed man in
this industry, you know what I'm saying, to have these
kind of relationships and to have them carry on, Like
I don't like to just make a moment friend. I
like to make a forever friend, because you never know
how that relationship is going to go.
Speaker 3 (11:50):
Who's going to need you? Who?
Speaker 5 (11:51):
I think you do that so well.
Speaker 4 (11:52):
I think the one thing about one is everybody respects
and love Bunny, like you always show love. If you're
in the town, you're gonna pull up, You're going to
say how your family is, like You've done it on
numerous occasions.
Speaker 6 (12:01):
Well, I like to make sure people have a good
time in town too, So like I've always for years,
when artists will come to town, especially new artists, I would
go pick them up, write them around. Because there's not
a lot of people that can get a pass in
every neighborhood in the city. So some people are good
on the south side, some I'm a good on the
north side, the Southwest or whatever.
Speaker 3 (12:20):
I'm good in every neighborhood.
Speaker 6 (12:21):
So whatever it is they want to see in the
city of Houston, I make sure they see it.
Speaker 5 (12:26):
Now, you doing your thirtieth anniversary show? Yes on the first.
What does that mean to you?
Speaker 6 (12:30):
I can believe that this album is still being appreciated.
I'll be honest, you know, as a black man, I
didn't even I didn't even plan to be fifty, you
know what, I'm saying, like, I'm fifty three now.
Speaker 3 (12:40):
I didn't plan for.
Speaker 6 (12:41):
My career to last over thirty plus years, you know
what I'm saying. So all of this is a blessing
to me. So I'm just happy to still be here
and be appreciated. And it's crazy that our nominal album,
Dirty Ryan Dirty is thirty years now, and I don't
think it's any less impactful than it was in that moment.
I think what we created with that album musically, lyrically,
(13:03):
and culturally still speaks to people. It still resonates with people.
So now here we are celebrating it thirty years later,
everybody still is happy and excited about the project, and
so we wanted to we wanted to celebrate it the
right way because I've noticed, like, you know, I'll wake
up one day and somebody'd be like, oh man, super
Tight is twenty seven years old or something like that.
I'd be like, Wow, that's crazy that we've we've made
(13:26):
it this far for so long. And so with Rotten Dirty,
we realized that this was going to be the thirty
year Anniverse. I was like, that's nominal. We got to
celebrate that. We got to celebrate that in the right way.
So our ideas because you know, of course, you know
PIMC isn't here anymore rest in peace and also missed
the three two isn't here anymore? Who is you know,
a very big part of this album. You know, we
considered making three two a part of UGK for a while,
(13:48):
but it just didn't work out that way. And so
with this, I was like, well, I don't want to
be doing Pimpc's versus and be doing three twos versus
and three twos hook. So let's bring in celebrity acts
to come in and form these songs with us and
make it a little bit more impactful on the evening.
And so that's what we've been doing, and we've had
a great response from people, you know, A Ball and them, JG,
(14:09):
Big crit you know, David Banner, Slim Thug.
Speaker 3 (14:13):
You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 6 (14:14):
We've had a lot of great people agree to be
a part of this album because of what the album
meant to them as well, you know what I'm saying.
And that's a beautiful thing to have, that reciprocation of
sewing into people and having those.
Speaker 5 (14:24):
People a lot of pressure too for them.
Speaker 6 (14:26):
Yeah, so I came up with a system so that
everybody would be okay, because I thought maybe some of
these dudes don't know the verse or anything like that.
And I was very shocked at the majority of people
we asked were like, Yo, we know this album, we
know these songs. That's not a problem. Just tell me
when and where and we're showing up. And that's a
great thing. That's a great feeling to get that kind
of not only love and agreement to be a part
(14:48):
of the show, but the idea of it. Seems like
everybody I've been asking this album actually means something to
those people. And we've been trying to pick people that
tonally and subject matter, subject no matter I should say,
make it makes sense. So like when we put Slim
Thug on it, I'm like, Slim, you're going to do
this song because that's the kind of music that you
make for yourself. And so that's what we've been trying
(15:10):
to do, is make sure that the energy feels right.
I didn't just want to pick people just because they
were famous or well known and would sell a lot
of tickets on the moment. In the moment, on the day,
I needed to all make sense, and so we did
a really good job. I think of picking people not
only to be a part of it, but picking them
specifically for what their target audience kind of speaks to
(15:30):
what they speak to I'm sorry to their target audience,
and then picking a song that's pretty much in line
with that.
Speaker 2 (15:35):
But you know, grief isn't linear, so it got to
be hard to do that project.
Speaker 6 (15:39):
Well, you know, the crazy thing is that, you know,
Ryan Dirty starts with one day, So if there's going
to be a difficult moment, it's going to be that.
So once we get to that point, and we get
past that point, then we can move on and from
that point on because the first song is the first
song we perform, is going to be one day, and
then after that it's murdered.
Speaker 3 (15:58):
So once we get to murder, we're going we're on
a run.
Speaker 2 (16:01):
Now, that's one of your best verses too. I appreciate
what's something because the one thing I like about you
know you've always honored PIMC. But it's not like you
let grief define the identity of UGK, right, Like, what's something?
Losing him taught you that success never could?
Speaker 6 (16:17):
Well, I think it was it was, it was, It
wasn't even really losing him. I think the test run,
obviously for having to to continue without him was when
he went to prison, and so because of that we
had to figure out a way of carrying on his
name and keeping him alive musically so that when he
came home the group would still have some weight on it,
some motion to it. And honestly, he came home more
(16:39):
popular than he was before he went in, because you know,
we did the free PIMC movement, which was accepted by
everyone blowing up at their time, and so when we
lost him, we was like, well, we know, we know
how to continue. We just got to have the strength
to continue. And that took a couple of days. Like
I tried to do a show, a memorial show for him,
(16:59):
probably within the first two months of in passing, and
that probably was the hardest moment. But it's not the
music that really that really kind of makes me emotional.
It's not being able to talk. There's like, you know,
cars that I look at now, like your Pemp would
have had a Bugatti. Pep would have had this, he
would have had at forty or something like that. And
so those are the things that I hate that he
(17:19):
didn't get to be a part of and like that.
But it's very random, Like it's very random moments when
I get emotional about him, you know, because I don't
really listen. I'm not facetious. I don't really listen to
myself like that, So it's not like I'm riding around
listening to UGK. But it'll be in conversation with different
people and somebody will be like, you know, like I
talked to Bundy from the group X Mob. I mean
(17:39):
we're very close and he lost his partner as well
to cancer. Recipes vicious, and we just talk about the
moments that we shared with these artists and things that
we went through in those days, and in those moments,
you know, we find the time to laugh about it.
But then it's it does get emotional, you know what
I'm saying, And I just I think about like social media,
like I think social media would have been a blessed
(18:00):
and then it curse to Pimp, right because I look
at like what Boosie was doing, you know what I'm
saying with the girls and all of them, like Pimp
would have absolutely been a part of that. But then
also Pimp had a very sharp tongue, so I feel
like we probably would have got into it with people
because he used to just speak right. He didn't really
have a filter like that, and so he would very
very regularly comment about people in different things. So I
(18:22):
felt like maybe that would have complicated some things. I
feel like we would have had some definitely had some
beef because he would have said something about somebody, you know,
just feeling a certain way, and then we would have
had to deal with that.
Speaker 3 (18:33):
But to be fair, that was a part of the
whole point of UGK.
Speaker 6 (18:37):
Right, Like, we got into it with a lot of people,
and some of those things rectified themselves, some of them didn't.
I mean, we moved on and whatnot. But you know,
I just I'm glad that we get to celebrate him
in this way with this concert. And so that's really
why I wanted to let everybody know because UGK fans
are not just from Texas, They're not just from Louisiana.
(18:58):
There's fans of PIMC. I remember going to on tour
in Japan and the kid flew over to from Korea
because he had a Pimpse tattoo on his arm. So
you never really know how far your energy and your
movement carries around this world. So I just want to
keep the energy going. And I think this is a
great way to not only celebrate him, to celebrate this album.
And you know, one of our biggest moments ever.
Speaker 1 (19:20):
As you guys, or as you're putting together the show
with your team and you're reflecting, what do you think
would have been one of the biggest things that would
have wowed him as you guys would have been able
to reflect together.
Speaker 6 (19:30):
To just the fact that the album still resonates, right, Like,
we were very careful to not timestamp things. So he
would talk about driving the bench, but he would want
to talk about like a six hundred because he knew
Ben's Mercedes was always going to make a six hundred, right,
you know what I'm saying. So we tried not to
be like riding in a ninety six Binge or a
ninety eight beam or anything like that, keeping things very general.
(19:54):
You know, you got to stick to a theme, you know,
and this album was very thematic, and the things that
we talked about on Ride and Dirty, we were some
of the first people to really talk about that, like
the screw tapes and things like that, and riding in
the slabs trying to spread that culture around the country
and eventually around the world. And so this album is
(20:15):
a lot more impactful than we gave it credit for
at the time, because when we were talking about it,
it was something that everybody in the city was starting
to gravitate to. And now we look and the whole
world is talking about drink. The whole world and the
artists all over the country are sampling DJ Screwed, you
know what I'm saying. So a lot of what we
talked about in that album and exposed to the world
on the grander scale, still resonates today.
Speaker 3 (20:38):
You know, even unfortunately, like.
Speaker 6 (20:40):
The syrup stuff, like people are still zip a syrup,
you know what I'm saying, And that's our culture, you know,
hated I love it. That's our culture and we love
representing it. And I'm glad that that's something that people
still appreciate us representing, even though a lot of people
from my age group don't really sip anymore. But this
this gives everybody a chance to go back to ninety
six for a day. You know, we're all parent and
(21:00):
some of us are grandparents, you know what I'm saying,
So we don't really get to go out like that.
The clubs obviously don't really speak to us in that
way right now, the music doesn't really speak to us
in that way.
Speaker 3 (21:08):
So everybody gets to go back to ninety six for
one night and remember when they didn't have all the
responsibilities in their life, you know what I'm saying, Like,
you know, you get some get somebody to babysit the
kids or the grandkids, and then come out and you know,
put your dickeys on and celebrate.
Speaker 2 (21:22):
Nostalgia is the greatest dopamine hit ever.
Speaker 3 (21:25):
It really is.
Speaker 2 (21:26):
And I only plan to go to one night at
jay Z, which was the reasonable doubt night. I was
on such a high from that Friday, I ended up
going the whole week.
Speaker 6 (21:34):
Why not, you know what I'm saying, especially if you
have access to do that, you know what I'm saying,
because you got the bag, you could afford that.
Speaker 3 (21:39):
Yeah, yeah, you're doing good to go see g.
Speaker 2 (21:42):
I'm going to see j Z and Mary in the
same weekend.
Speaker 3 (21:45):
That's it. That's a big thing, because I want.
Speaker 2 (21:46):
That dopa mean hit because I forgot. I'm not gonna
say I forgot, But sometimes we get so caught up
in this algorithm world that you forget what real life
connection feels like.
Speaker 6 (21:56):
Absolutely, and it's it's good to be in a room
where everybody's there for the same reason.
Speaker 3 (22:00):
Right.
Speaker 6 (22:00):
Sometimes when you go to some of these things, different
people have different agendas for the evening, but that's that's
gonna be one of those nights where everybody's there for
the same thing in the same way, so everybody gets
to appreciate it. You're gonna make friends, you know what
I'm saying. You're gonna be next to somebody because I
seen it at the Jeezy shows. You know where people are.
You know, certain songs come on and then everybody is
singing that song and you see dudes next to each
(22:22):
other and they rap into each other and all of that.
Speaker 3 (22:24):
I love that type of feeling.
Speaker 6 (22:25):
I love that energy, and that's kind of what we
want to create because we know that everybody that comes
to this show on August first is a fan of
the album that we're performing. And then we got some
special surprises throughout throughout the show as well, so it's
it's gonna be an amazing evening. I'm really excited about
what being able to pull off.
Speaker 4 (22:42):
Now with all the hats that Bumbee has from Chilburgers
to everything that you do.
Speaker 5 (22:47):
What do you enjoyed the most.
Speaker 6 (22:48):
Of Papa being a grandfather, being a.
Speaker 4 (22:52):
Grand because you can bring them back when you when
you finish well, it's it's it's a lot of this
stuff is different now.
Speaker 6 (22:59):
So when when I creating music and doing that, the
kids couldn't really be a part of that in that way, right.
They could see the creation of the stuff, they could
see the performances, but they couldn't really contribute with the Burgers. Now,
like my granddaughter works for trill Burgers, my niece works
for tril Burgers, my nephew works for trill Burgers, my
manager's daughter works for tril Burgers, so all of these
(23:19):
my daughter works for trill Burgers now from an administrative aspect,
and so everybody gets to be a part of this now,
you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3 (23:26):
So with the music, you know.
Speaker 6 (23:28):
They could appreciate it in that but if they don't
have any like musical talent, they can't contribute to that legacy.
But with this there's a place for anybody that wants
to be a part of this company. And being from
the Pawpat side, man, I'll be honest man, just having
a house and having the kids come over and just
having fun and being able to be like, yeah, you
used to do that same thing when you were her
(23:50):
age or his age. So it's a beautiful thing to
just watch this family grow and to be able to
be like, you know what, We're not going to go
out of town this weekend. We're gonna stay here, bring
the kids over, have a good time, cooks some food,
and just enjoy life. And that's a beautiful thing to
have lived this long and have gotten this far and
be in a position to be like if I want to,
because I'm the boss now, I can just be like,
(24:11):
you know what, we're not doing that this weekend. We're
gonna spend time with the family. That can wait till
Monday or Tuesday, but this weekend we're gonna have fun.
Speaker 2 (24:18):
And I bet you the burgers ain't even what they
love to eat when they come over. It's probably something
else you cook put on that grill.
Speaker 6 (24:23):
Well, I'll be honest, my wife is an amazing cook.
So they don't come to my house wanting to burger.
If they want a burger, we can go to the restaurant.
But if they want to eat with Granny and Paw part.
They want to come to the house. They want Granny
to cook because my wife.
Speaker 3 (24:35):
Cooks really good soul food.
Speaker 6 (24:37):
She cook a lot of food that I don't really eat, like,
you know, like I don't eat collar greens and stuff
like that.
Speaker 1 (24:43):
I don't since forever or just recently.
Speaker 6 (24:46):
No, no, never, No, I'm pretty sure.
Speaker 2 (24:53):
We don't even understand.
Speaker 6 (24:54):
It's a texture thing for me. Like I'll eat raw spinach,
but I won't eat cook spinach. I just it's it's
like a slimy type of thing. And that really started
with okra.
Speaker 2 (25:04):
Even I only eat turkey. Next, bro, what else don't
you eat?
Speaker 6 (25:09):
I don't want to get into it. I don't eat liver.
I don't want to get you deep into it.
Speaker 3 (25:12):
Right.
Speaker 5 (25:13):
But it's not like he's from New York.
Speaker 6 (25:15):
Like my wife makes a great gumbo, but she always
put okra in it, so I'm hesitant to eat it
because what okra is slimy to me. I gotta tell you,
it's a texture thing for me. That's it, you know
what I'm saying.
Speaker 3 (25:27):
But what I like to eat. My wife cooks for me,
and she cooks very well.
Speaker 6 (25:30):
But on Sundays She'll typically cook like an old school
soul food dinner, and then the whole family will come
over and eat, and I'll be like, yeah, I'm finna
go get some wings.
Speaker 3 (25:38):
I'll be back.
Speaker 6 (25:41):
But but again, that's that she cooks those meals for
her because that's what she likes to eat. She was
raised by her grandmother, so that's kind of a lot
of what she she was taught to cook.
Speaker 3 (25:49):
And I just don't get in the way with that.
Speaker 6 (25:50):
Just because I don't eat, it doesn't mean that somebody's
not going to appreciated.
Speaker 2 (25:55):
That's all she That's not when I took me in
my adulthood.
Speaker 3 (26:00):
But yeah, there's there's a lot of things I don't eat.
I don't eat the chillens.
Speaker 5 (26:05):
I'm never I still.
Speaker 1 (26:08):
I can't give up.
Speaker 2 (26:09):
I don't know really what. Yes, I love it when.
Speaker 6 (26:14):
They're cooking chicklin's. Yeah I gotta go. Yeah, Yeah, I
don't want.
Speaker 4 (26:18):
To smell it for what New Year's Eves would make
it Christmas thanks Giving me.
Speaker 1 (26:23):
Fried chicken, that's like a good luck thing.
Speaker 6 (26:27):
No, they do cabbage us we do black eyed piece
of cabbage, and don't I don't eat cabbage.
Speaker 1 (26:31):
Okay, I can I understand that's extra average.
Speaker 6 (26:34):
Yeah, there's a lot of things that that typically black
people love to eat and that I don't eat.
Speaker 3 (26:38):
But again, at a.
Speaker 6 (26:39):
Very young age, I was like, when I get old
and I get money, I'm not eating none of the
slave food.
Speaker 3 (26:42):
Like I'm not eating no tripe. I'm not eating none
of this. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 6 (26:46):
I'm eating steak, you know, and potatoes and pork chops
and fried chicken or whatever you know.
Speaker 3 (26:51):
But I don't knock it when she cooks it.
Speaker 6 (26:53):
I don't knock it because I know I'm the minority
that no one else feels like I feel when my
wife cooks.
Speaker 3 (26:58):
Everybody's ready for when my wife cooks.
Speaker 1 (27:00):
People probably so surprising when they're like first time guests
at your house and she'd throw down and you you'd
be like, well.
Speaker 6 (27:05):
Yeah, I might have the mac and cheese and some
beans or whatever and like maybe.
Speaker 2 (27:09):
One meat, but yeah, nah, I don't like mac and cheese.
Speaker 3 (27:12):
Okay, now you gotta go.
Speaker 5 (27:13):
You don't like macache. It's just cheese as with the stomach.
Speaker 2 (27:16):
It definitely like those dollar but I just don't like it.
Speaker 6 (27:19):
But that's dietary though, Like I can understand that if
it's a dietary restriction, of course you.
Speaker 3 (27:23):
Wouldn't want to eat it.
Speaker 6 (27:24):
But no, like just on the idea of not wanting
to eat mac and cheese, I think that's I think that.
I think that's something that's more palatable than kyl of
greens by a long way.
Speaker 2 (27:34):
Things give, and I get the stuff in. I like stuffing.
I like the yams, but the maga cheese I'm cool
on that. The turkey next, Yes, up.
Speaker 6 (27:41):
I'm starting to have a bit of aversion to dressing
now because the gizzards. Like like when I cook my
when I fix my plate, I got to pick every
gizzet out of the dressing.
Speaker 2 (27:54):
Yeah, okayod I love chicken gizzards.
Speaker 3 (27:58):
Yeah, I can't with that. And you said that with
confidence like I do.
Speaker 1 (28:04):
I'm just thinking about how she cook them on this weekend.
Speaker 2 (28:06):
I might have to get like that.
Speaker 6 (28:08):
But I think a lot of that food. To be honest,
I feel like that's more relational. Yeah, when you use
certain food, it kind of brings you back and makes
you thinks about relationships you had with people that maybe
on here anymore.
Speaker 1 (28:18):
Yes, And that's why to me, even like when I
see you at because I've never been to the Houston Rodeo,
but every year when it's happening, and like you're there
and now your Burger spot is there, and then you're
taking the stage, you're doing different things. I know you
didn't perform this year, right right? I think about that,
like even seeing Miss Tina at the Rodeo too. I'm like,
this has to be very like relational for the people
that are from where y'all are from.
Speaker 6 (28:38):
Oh, absolutely, because you know, the Rodeo I think is
on that ninety third year of existence, so it's been
something that most of us grew up in. Like we
all went to the Rodeo at a certain point, like
your family would take you, your school would take you.
We used to go there and do like you know,
I guess they call it cosplay now, but like you
would go there and they would give you like a
(28:58):
vest and a hat and stuff like that to put
on so you could take a cowboy picture.
Speaker 3 (29:02):
But now, no, it's twenty one days. Wow.
Speaker 6 (29:06):
Wow, it's twenty one days and every day has a
concert in the football stadium. So they averaged like sixty
thousand people, sixty five thousand people at night.
Speaker 1 (29:14):
How come you didn't do the stage this year.
Speaker 6 (29:16):
I wasn't asked you, I don't. It's not my choice
to whether I want to do the Rodeo or not.
Speaker 1 (29:20):
It seems so synonymous, where like you're like, because you
have the stage where you bring out artists and it's
normally like the Heritage.
Speaker 3 (29:26):
Night, right, Yeah, Black Heritage.
Speaker 1 (29:28):
I thought that that was like sett and Stonnach, that
is your thing.
Speaker 2 (29:30):
People come for that.
Speaker 6 (29:31):
I mean it was because we did it so well
the first year they asked us to come back. We
improved on the concept. They asked us to come back again,
and we kind of knocked it out the park on
that third run for real, because that's when Drake offered
himself to the show, you know, and we were able
to bring some artists that the Rodeo doesn't really have
a connection to in that way, or even in the
case of Drake, they can't afford to pay up an
(29:53):
artist like that to come. So he saw the kind
of cultural impact we would have and in the moment,
and of course he loved to be a part of
of pretty much anything that Houston that's Houston centric, so
he was like, yo, I got to come and do
your riddo, but he didn't understand the scale of it
because he's like, yo, I can bring my stage. I
was like, nah, we got a crazy stage, and well
I can bring pow rolls. Like, well, we got powo.
But if you want more, that's fine. We just need
(30:14):
your presence, you know what I'm saying. So, but it's
been a beautiful partnership with them, and even when I
didn't perform this year, we still get to do the
burgers and the tenders on site, which to me, as
long as we have that, I'm still in play, you
know what I'm saying. But even if I never did
it again, which I'm not wishing or hoping for that, right,
I love to go back at some point, But even
if I never did it again, four shows in a row,
as I was the first black man from Houston to
(30:37):
headline the rodeo, it.
Speaker 2 (30:39):
Was like your thing. After that, it was.
Speaker 6 (30:40):
Like everybody assumed that, like people think this year, everybody
came thinking it was my rodeo, Like people from outside
of the state think that this is a rodeo that
I put on that happens on the weekend or whatever,
and it's much bigger than that. Like I said, there's
twenty one nights. There's a multitude of artists that perform.
A lot of them are country based, but they do EDM,
they do R and B, they do throwback shows.
Speaker 3 (31:03):
You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 6 (31:03):
I'm just happy to be able to put myself on
that stage. And when we first got actually do it,
we're like, we got to share this moment because we
never know if we'll be back.
Speaker 3 (31:11):
So I tried to put as.
Speaker 6 (31:12):
Many people from Houston on that stage where I felt
should be able to be seen and be appreciated in
that moment because they've been as contributive to the culture
as I have. So we just made a whole Houston
night the first year. Then they brought us back. We're like, okay,
well let's do a Southern night. Then they brought us
back again, so then we did an American night, you
know what I'm saying. And so it's been a fun
experiment to do and I've been blessed to be a
(31:35):
part of it. And the city benefits because now there's
an influx of people that come in for that weekend.
So now they consider it like Black Rodeo weekend, even
though there's only one Black Show for the entire thing
this year. They had two black artists. They had Lizzo
and they had Shaboozi. You know what I'm saying. So,
and I've been very careful, like to like, they always
(31:58):
wanted to put me on Black Heritage Night, but I
felt like if I allowed them to do that, then
no one else would get that night. So but it's
been amazing. It's been an amazing experiment. You know, I'm
glad they had me, and if they never bring me back,
I'm good. I made some good money, so it made
some even bigger impacts. So that's that's pretty much it
for me. I can figure it out from there.
Speaker 2 (32:16):
But do you think hip hop has lost his eldest
I have younger artists to stop.
Speaker 6 (32:20):
Look the I think what we're doing is we're targeting
the wrong way. I don't think that you should be
trying to bring in new fans. You should be trying
to make a deeper connection with the fans that you
already had. But that being said, a lot of people,
a lot of my contemporaries, didn't jump on the digital
era as soon as they should, and I was late
(32:42):
to it and still was able to benefit from it,
but I feel like a lot of my contemporaries did
not embrace it. I think they kind of looked at
it different and they didn't really know how to navigate
promotion and marketing and sales in this digital space where
people don't actually physically go in the record store and
buy music anymore, and that was pretty much off putting
for people. They didn't really know how to adjust to
(33:03):
the new times, and I think by the time they
did start to figure it out and want to adjust
and want to be a part of it, there was
a little bit of a delay and there was a
lack of connection in that space.
Speaker 3 (33:13):
So I think my age group primarily is in Facebook.
Speaker 6 (33:17):
You know, some of them have Instagram, and that's fine,
but I think the more, the more direct way to
communicate with our age basis Facebook. But I don't think
Facebook is as attractive, you know what I'm saying to
many artists as an Instagram or a TikTok but then.
Speaker 5 (33:32):
Easy to get to an ig than Facebook at times.
Speaker 6 (33:34):
Absolutely, But then the way that I feel like the
way that Instagram and TikTok operates does not lend itself
to having that older mentality, and you find yourself doing
things that are not within your character. Like I'm not
finna get on social media and start doing these TikTok dances,
but I'll do a line dance because that's my age group,
you know what I'm saying, And we all do those
(33:55):
at parties and trail rides and stuff like that. So
you just gotta find that space that works for you
and be good with that, be comfortable with that. We're
never going to sell what we used to, sol We're
never going to impact in the way that we used to.
So it's just a matter of being smart enough to
just keep yourself in front of the people that know
you and love you and appreciate you, and then you know,
and you know, make good with that, and if you
(34:17):
need a side also, go get a side out. So
I'm cooking burgers on the side, you know what I'm saying.
That that offsets the loss of income that maybe I
would have had by not having a connection to this
much younger fan base.
Speaker 3 (34:27):
They don't want to hear my music.
Speaker 6 (34:28):
And even if I did go and say, like ask
Future for a verse, I'm sure Future would give me
a verse, But I don't know if futures fan base
wants to hear me with him.
Speaker 3 (34:36):
I don't know if my fan base wants to hear
him with me. So you don't really get.
Speaker 6 (34:39):
To benefit from that kind of a thing even if
you even if you have the access to it.
Speaker 2 (34:43):
You know, you're owning a burger franchise on the side.
Speaker 6 (34:47):
Yeah, yeah, I mean it's growing, you know, it's growing.
Speaker 1 (34:50):
So like you're like they would people wanted like if
you got on TikTok and didn't do like, we don't
want to see you doing all the dances on all.
Speaker 2 (34:58):
Of those things, right, No, but if you.
Speaker 1 (35:01):
Know, if you sat down on TikTok and you did
like I talk like when I watch your interviews, I
feel like I'm always learning something from your interviews about business, navigating,
brand strategy, and just being honest about what I want
to actually do. If you found a short form way
to do that on TikTok, we would listen because you're
one of the others that I feel like we respect,
like we we know you're not gonna do nothing that
you don't want to do. I think it's about how
(35:22):
you do it. People get on there and be doing
five six, seven, eight.
Speaker 6 (35:25):
And shit, well, if if I find a lane that's
authentic to me in the space that I can you know,
really help people benefit from.
Speaker 3 (35:32):
Then we'll probably we'll probably look into that, you know
what I'm saying.
Speaker 6 (35:35):
But right now, I think I think my company needs
me more than anything right now because I still do shows.
I'm still you know, I'm still on the road, i
still make good money performing. I still you know, get
asked to do a lot of the things. So I'm
not really hurting on that side, you know what I'm saying.
I feel like my energy is really best needed to
build this company.
Speaker 3 (35:53):
You know.
Speaker 2 (35:54):
And what you said too about not you know, targeting,
I guess the youth can just really folk knowing the
people who already rock with you. Yeah, I think that's
the most important thing. I don't think people realize that
the highest spending demo in the US is forty five
to fifty four.
Speaker 6 (36:08):
Well, we're liquid, right, We're liquid. We're working you know,
working class people. We've got money. All we need is time.
So like from like my shows, if we give them
two and a half to three months to get ready
to prepare for it, make sure the kids are going
to be okay, save up their money, you know what,
I'm saying because a lot of times my contemporaries in
my age group, their money is best best utilized in
(36:29):
other ways, you know what I'm saying. But if we
give them enough time to prepare for the show, they'll come.
They just need enough time to work some shit out,
but they'll come. They got to ask to get off
work that kind of stuff, you know what I'm saying.
So I understand that stuff, and so we try to
lean into that in a way that allows people time
and finances in order to come out and have a
good time.
Speaker 2 (36:49):
And start start time. Start time is important too.
Speaker 6 (36:51):
Oh yeah, yeah, No, you got to start around nine o'clock,
ten o'clock. You ten is late now, well, ten is okay.
But if you start going past, if you go past
midnight or evening, we're done.
Speaker 3 (37:01):
Like you got it. Doors got to be closed by
by man. We didn't have a choice that night.
Speaker 2 (37:07):
I don't have no choice. Yes, yes, said but I
left at one thirty. But I went the whole weekend,
which I couldn't believe I did. But to your point,
there's not a lot of things for us. No, No,
that was something for us. So August first and Houston.
That makes sense to me go see riding thirty.
Speaker 6 (37:21):
They can get the links in my bio, but they
can go to a smart live tx dot com and
they can get tickets there too. But the link is
in my Instagram bio.
Speaker 3 (37:29):
For sure.
Speaker 5 (37:30):
We appreciate you for joining us.
Speaker 3 (37:31):
Brother, man, we appreciate you. Guys. Let me come up
here and talk about this. You know what I'm saying.
It's a beautiful.
Speaker 6 (37:36):
Thing that you guys open up your door on your
platform to me whenever I need it. So I'm going
to try to need it more often, just so I
can see you guys.
Speaker 4 (37:43):
The one you always pull up in anything I'm doing,
whether it's somewhere that you're closed. So if I'm in Houston,
you always pull up just to say what's up?
Speaker 3 (37:50):
Thank you?
Speaker 5 (37:50):
How the family and I really really appreciate it.
Speaker 6 (37:52):
Man, It doesn't It doesn't cost me anything just to
come and say hip, sure people love and bring people
some burgers. Well that bringing you some burgers, my But
the long term benefit works. Long term benefit works. Thank
you all for having me though.
Speaker 5 (38:04):
For real, it's button B It's the Breakfast Club. Good morning,
hold up every day a week ago.
Speaker 3 (38:10):
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