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Speaker 1 (00:00):
I don't know. Every day we click yours up the
Breakfast Club. I'm finish for y'all done morning.
Speaker 2 (00:07):
Everybody's dj n V. Just hilarious, charlamage the guy. We
are the Breakfast Club. Long the roses here as well.
We got a special guest.
Speaker 1 (00:14):
In the building, gentlemen, don't family member, how you feeling that?
I'm blessed. I'm great to be here, and uh, I
just want to congratulate you guys for having a number
one spot. You know what I'm saying. You know, I'm
a Detroit native. I spent a lot of time in
LA I spent a lot of time in Atlanta and
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obviously in New York, but y'all everywhere, you know what
I'm saying.
Speaker 3 (00:40):
So congratulations, congratulations to you two. You got to add
a producer and acted to your resume. Now, yes, indeed,
but what made you want to start the entertainment production company?
Speaker 1 (00:50):
I mean, it's just an opportunity to either be at
the table or you know, create one. And you know,
being in this game for so very a lot of
people sometimes when you're an athlete, they underestimate the fact
that you're a creator as well. So you know, I'm
an educated human being, Like I went to college and
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communications was my major in radio, TV film. So what
you guys are doing and what I'm doing is like
my life. So I pay attention to what's on the
walls and the microphones and the cameras and everything. And
so it was just really an opportunity for me to
grow from being a television personality to curating content but
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also being a CEO of Same Page Entertainment and acting.
And now we got a series out right now called
Southwest High. Make sure y'all run it up on tob
We got the number one spot to talk about that.
What is Southwest High about? So Southwest High is a
modern day version of Lean on Me. It's NBA legend.
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Nolan Thomas returns to his hometown and wants to save
the high school that he attended before it closes. And
usually when people tell the story of our people, they
tell the story of smaller kids because we're still considered
cute and cuddly and innocent and all of that stuff.
But they don't tell the story of high school kids.
And so I wanted to do that. I wanted to
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highlight the amazing things that they're doing and the discipline
at their show, and the educators and the sacrifices that
they make, but also the challenges that they need to overcome,
because we all know, you know, the issues that a
third grader has is different from the issues that an
eleventh grader has, the sex, drugs, violence, gangs, the exposure
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to losing their innocence so very early. So I wanted
to just be in a position to tell those stories
and the same page entertainment, I have that opportunity, so
I'm very grateful. But you did that in real life.
Speaker 3 (02:46):
I mean just opening up the jail and roles leadership
academy I did.
Speaker 1 (02:49):
And the funny thing, I watched Lean on Me like
one hundred and fifty times Smoke Crack Don't exactly, and
I was taking acting classes and watching that show and
I and it gave me confidence because I was like,
Morgan Freeman a better actor than me, but he don't
have a real school, you know what I'm saying. So
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it was like me just like really getting into the character.
And I have some amazing people around me, Twanda Braxon,
don Have Kenny Brooklyn Queen, Like there's so many dope
people that make me look good. Stevie Bragg's and so
I'm really excited about the project. You're lead actor.
Speaker 4 (03:28):
How did you end up being it?
Speaker 1 (03:29):
So that's what you wanted to do? Well? When I
woke up one morning, I didn't say, Hey, I want
to be the founder of a school or I want
to be an actor type of thing. It just kind
of happened naturally because usually and I was been in
the lab so much. I realized that many of my
favorite movies feature comedians or artists, but a lot of
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times athletes in today's society don't do scripted. So when
I grew up, they were like blaxploitations. It was like
Jim Brown and so many other people. And then it
became The Rock and earlier was Fred to Hammer Williamson,
Like they were doing scripted, And so in my mind
that I wanted to like be disciplined enough to like
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get in to the classes and learn the lines and
learn posture and all of the things that come with
trying to like get into a character. So that's what
really became Nolan Thomas, who I play in Southwest High
I feel.
Speaker 5 (04:25):
Like the series like Touches, but not directly on like
the Survivors remorse conversation, right, how much of your own
I don't even I mean what you experienced in survivor's
morps and going back and doing all things you do,
did you put into.
Speaker 1 (04:36):
This a lot of it? Because you know, inner city
young people lose their innocence so young, Like just imagine
being like that kid that grows up in the inner
city and you in the living room and I was
this kid. You know, your parents watching Scarface, they smoking weed,
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they're cussing there, They're doing a lot of things that
are a five six seven year old mind sometimes is
not able to process. And it's all exactly so there
was the grown up space table, and there's the little
kid space table, you know, and for me, it's just
like to tell the story of a lot of different perspectives,
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but also to shatter a lot of stereotypes. And I
talked about like the early movies, but what about the nineties.
You can have budgets for people that were telling stories
and it would be like message, So you can have
don't be a minutes, and you can have minutes to society.
You can have like so many different stories that depict
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all sides of us. And so if I asked each
of you, which I ain't gonna make y'all do right now,
but I just want you to think about it. If
you were going on a date and you were gonna
watch a movie this Friday, what would you go see?
Just oh oh, it's just some hard stuff out it correct,
nothing for us. Correct. That's the point. So my purpose
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is to try to bring back with ice Cube and Spike,
Lee and the Wayne's brothers and so many other people
before me who had budgets that could tell stories for
people that look like us, but tell all sides of us.
And that's what Southwest High does. It's Yes, there's a
young lady that's pregnant in high school, but she's also
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a four point zho student. Her father was murdered, but
before he got killed, he was at all of the
school events. He was at all of her games. You know,
there are issues with families, but you notice there sometimes
there's two parents in a parent teacher conference, not just one.
So it's just like little things that get a chance
to tell all sides of our story.
Speaker 3 (06:41):
Did you take any inspiration from your own real life
high school experience?
Speaker 1 (06:45):
I did, and I do. And the incredible thing that
I want people to know about inner city young people
is like the challenges that they have to deal with
are undefeated. Like when I went to school, if we
had social media, I wouldn't be here now, Like just
real like the when I go to our school, like
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I have a public high school in Detroit, and our
young people and our families trust me enough to wear uniforms,
So they wear blazers. They submit their cell phones in
the morning, and people say, so, what happens if there's
an emergency, the same thing that happened when you were
going to school. You know, you coming up to the
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school in an emergency ain't going to help the emergency.
It's just going to highlight the emergency. And so for
young people and even in this room, like if you
went the last time, you've been without your phone for
eight hours probably on a plane, right exactly. And so
for young people to trust what we're doing because they
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want to be educated and they want to have their
goals come true, it really means a lot, especially in
the city like Detroit. And so that plays out in
real life at the Jayla Rol's Leadership Academy because we're
sixteen years in, but it also plays out in Southwest
high because I get a chance to tell a version
of those stories. I feel like you've been producing too.
Speaker 3 (08:09):
I know you got the same page entertainment when I
think about Jailing and Jacob, Like, you were one of
the first former NBA players to have a podcast, and
now it is a whole NBA podcast culture.
Speaker 1 (08:20):
How do you feel about that? I was the first
and it started at the same time at Breakfast Club.
Did you start? Twenty ten? Is when I started Jalen
and Jacoba. And the unique thing is you see about
the podcast landscape that it's changed, like people are doing
one or two podcasts a week, Like I was doing
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five podcasts a week for fifteen years, yoh daily, so
and it became a podcast, a radio show, then a
television show. And so being in that space taught me
a lot about multimedia. Executive producing a FAB five documentary.
I had a play called The Love Story Ever Told.
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It was kind of in a Tyler Perry Chiplin circuit mode,
and we did multiple cities and then we lost John Avery,
who was the father of the Fresh Prince, So that
kind of ended that project. The eighty one Olives with
Kobe Bryant executive producing that so I've been in this
space for a very long time and it's just a
graduation of that mission. Should the active players have podcast
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I would say yes. But the difference in being an
active player and having a podcast because I was the
first former player that worked in the media while playing
in the league. But to be real with you, I
did it when I was on a team that was irrelevant.
Speaker 3 (09:46):
Yeah yeah, ok, okay.
Speaker 1 (09:47):
So when I was playing for the Pacers and we
was making it to the finals, I wasn't doing a
podcast because I wasn't going to talk about while Larry
Bird took me out of the game against the Bulls
in nineteen ninety eight and we lost that series, right,
But when I got traded to Chicago and they had
the worst team in the league, and then I was
playing in Toronto, I was like, you know what, we
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making the playoffs. You know what I'm saying, I'm gonna
start my second career. It's it's very tough for a
current athlete to be honest and have a podcast while
they're performing because you can't talk about your team, your coach,
your your teammates, but you can't talk about your opponents
and be like legitimately saying what you feel. So it's
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not it's not real the locker room, right, It definitely
disrupts the locker room. Because I remember Mike D'Antoni when
I was playing for the Suns and I was doing
it and he didn't want me to do it. I'm like,
I ain't playing, you know what I'm saying. It was
the year when Robert rihit Steve Nash into the scorers table,
and I'll never forget because I was like one of
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the guys. I was like the ninth man and I
was like, yeah, I'm about to get some minutes. I
went back to Phoenix and John McCain was staying in
my hotel, I mean another our apartment. That's another story
for another day, the late Great Yes, and so I'm like,
I get back. We flew back. I was in the
weight room. I was on the trid like I'm gonna play.
I'm gonna play. I will play. He's like, no, you
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know what I'm saying. You're gonna talk about it on
your show, so we ain't gonna snow. Yeah, that really happened.
And the John McCain thing, and as I bring it up,
because it just sparked the thought that was one of
the reasons why I started my school, actually, because I
remember him saying when and again, I'm paying respect to
the dead. I ain't got no shots or shade at him,
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but this is a real time thing. He was like
stomping to run for president, and they were like, why
don't you feel like you need to go stump in Detroit.
He was like, well, when the world gets sick, Detroit
gets the flu. He said a version of that, and
that always stuck with me, and so to me, I
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was like, I'm gonna try to do something to change
the dynamics of how people see d trait and that
kind of spark what led to me now starting to
jail the Jayla world leadership. We ain't have a relationship, No,
I was just rich and he was rich, and we
stay in the suburbs. That was just that. I just
literally just saw him at Valet one time. I'm like, oh, okay,
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I got one more question about podcast. Have a podcast
for him right now? No, And that's my guy, And
I know he gonna text me right after this because
everything he says is going to be attributed to something
that people think. He talked about with Lebron and Lebron
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is still a current player. He still represents so many
players and elite players in the game. So when he's
talking about making, it's like you talking about black effect, right,
It's like you you can't separate the two. And for him,
he's put in a tough position to talk about the
moves that are making in the league being made in
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the league when he's one of the biggest movers in Shakers,
and it's going to interrupt a lot of things. So
when you see Anthony Davis get moved and then he's
talking about it like that's your client, and so that
makes it personal in particular. And you all know this,
especially when we making millions, Like it's so much money involved,
so you you're like giving away some of the trade
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secrets and you're like diminishing a little bit of the
respect sometimes that you may get for the people in
power when you're making moves, when you're speaking about them publicly.
Most of the moves that are highlighted are made in silence.
Speaker 3 (13:40):
Would you want to sign to a agent as a player,
if you were a player, would you sign to an
agent who had a podcast?
Speaker 1 (13:46):
Well, I mean if he was I mean, I mean
they can blank checks. Naw charloah. I mean like Shay
Gilders Alexander getting seventy million a year. You know, they
getting blank check money. So if you get me that
kind of bread, you can say what you want to say.
You know what I'm saying. Everybody else can be mad
at you. You know what I'm saying. But like.
Speaker 5 (14:06):
You think, that's why he still pushes through and he
even addresses of last off stuff because he knows his position.
Speaker 1 (14:10):
He knows his position, and he understands that as long
as I'm still serving my clients, they're going to be happy.
I can deal with the backlash that I might get
from the multimedia. That's how he's approaching.
Speaker 3 (14:22):
People still need agents, And what I mean by that
is like you see these brothers in the NFL, like
they're learning their own contracts and they're kind of cutting
out the middle man. You need that as a playoff.
Speaker 1 (14:32):
I feel like what I learned a talent is and
this is scary actually not to think about it. Some
of the most important conversations about our careers happened and
we're not on the phone, so we don't know what
they're saying, what they're bothering what you know, they can
be like, you know, we know he ain't really worth this,
but you know, I'm a rob Peter to pay Paul
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type of thing. I feel like, if you're transitioning, you
need an agent because the agent now puts you in
position to like be a bridge to your next opportunity.
But if you're re signing with your situation and you've
already been successful there, then you can be in position
to like navigate your own deal.
Speaker 2 (15:16):
I do have a question. You know, I was talking
to me me Brown, who standing behind you. That's front
page news for us, and we were talking about nil deals.
Donald Trump was talking about taking nil.
Speaker 1 (15:25):
Deals off the table.
Speaker 2 (15:26):
What's your thoughts on that?
Speaker 3 (15:28):
Jaylor was like with the first person for college players, correct,
thank you.
Speaker 1 (15:32):
I've I've been talking about this for thirty years, and
that's foolish because what that says is I can't I
can't get paid off of my name, my image, and
my likeness. Like that is crazy, Like what you know,
profession does that exist in And a couple of things
that I learned, just as I like matriculated in sports.
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The only sports that really have restrictions and salary caps, unfortunately,
are the ones that are black lid. That's basketball and football.
You don't see that in other sports. You don't see
it the golf, you don't see it in tennis, you
don't see the NASCAR, you don't see it in anything,
because that's a residue of Slavery's we're gonna make as
much money off of you for as long as possible
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without you getting paid. That's what the NCAA became. And
so now that players are able to profit off of
their name, image and likeness, I feel like it's really
good for the game. And somebody that's working for TNT
that's covering it, that's why the game is as good
as it's been. You see so many freshmen performing well.
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You see the enthusiasm back in the game because players
don't have to rush from their senior year in high
school to their freshman year in college. They don't have
to rush from their sophomore year in college to the
league because they get millions in college. And the most
frustrating thing about my Fab five experience at Michigan is
that the world it feels like I got paid, and
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they ain't pay me nothing. They ain't give me nothing.
I wish I could say it in Spanish. I wish
I could say it in Chinese. They ain't give me anything.
And so the fact that they're now able to profit
and you know, still perform, I think it's just like
any other profession you get paid for playing.
Speaker 2 (17:20):
Now has gambling hurt both college and NBA because it's
almost like, how do you tell a college kid, right,
that's that if he scores ten points, he can hit
a five hundred thousand dollars right?
Speaker 1 (17:33):
You see NBA people doing it.
Speaker 2 (17:35):
How do you feel like that that gambling has affected
the NBA in college?
Speaker 1 (17:39):
So like it's almost gambling to me, or like strip clubs,
Like whatever city you were in, it's probably more strip
clubs than colleges. People been gambling since the beginning the time.
Every sporting event has always had an underdog and a favorite.
That means someone's betting. That's always happened during the NCAA tournament,
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everybody in here is going to fill out a bracket.
You're betting, And so now that it's out on the table,
you open up Pandora's box for people to feel like,
you know what, envy's my guy? I know I'm getting
fifteen to night dog. I know I could make two threes, Like,
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if you're my cousin, you could bet that my whole career.
That's literally what I would say, And so that kind
of changes the dynamic of performing. But usually a player
is gonna kind of like do what they do anyway.
And You've seen a lot of people get caught up
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in the betting and gaming and gambling of the sport.
But for the most part, I feel like it's always existed,
so it's not going to interrupt the game, but it's
gonna be a disturbance to a lot of players.
Speaker 2 (19:00):
When I hear fans yelling three, yeah, it's gotta best.
Speaker 1 (19:06):
Like I'm saying, I'm sitting in the front road with
one of them, like the Pistons owner who's my partner
with Saint Page Entertainment, Tom Gores, is my good friend.
So I don't bet on the NBA because I can't
be like, okay, I need another three more three, you
know what I'm saying. I feel dirty, But I do
bet on the Lions. I'm like, yo, I need fifty yards,
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I need a touchdown or whatever. But yeah, it does
have a huge influence, but it's always existed. It's just
legal now, So.
Speaker 5 (19:37):
What's going to come out of like all of the
like the investigations stuff that are happening right now, Like
how will it change? Because how do you regulate something
as big as sports betting? Like it's all over placed.
Speaker 1 (19:45):
A lot of the people that you seeing get in
trouble about betting and gaming, it's not gonna become them
having to sit down like we see what r Kelly
or puff to they try to figure it out. It's
just more like you just stand on the sideline for
a minute, Chauncey. You just stand on the sideline for
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a minute, a couple of other people until we try
to figure out exactly what happened. Like Malik Beasley played
for the Pistons last year. He was second in the
league and three point is made. He's not playing right now.
He's to be playing again soon. But it's not like
he's locked up. It's not like he had to pay
a huge fine. It's just like, yeah, you was, you know,
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on the wrong text, you was on the wrong emails.
It's kind of legal, it's kind of illegal, but you
know that's kind of how the discipline seems to be,
you know, dished out recently. I want to go back
to the NIL thing.
Speaker 3 (20:42):
What do you say to people who feel like the
NIL has been hurting college sports?
Speaker 1 (20:46):
Those are people that have had jealousy towards athletes for
a very long time. Those are the same people when
I was talking about this twenty years ago. They were like,
you should just be happy you got a scholarship. I
would be happy if I got a chance to go
to college and somebody was paying for it. But yeah,
ain't nobody paying for you to play? And ain't nobody
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paying to watch you play?
Speaker 5 (21:08):
Really?
Speaker 1 (21:09):
You know what I'm saying, Ain't nobody buying your jersey?
And so that was always a jealousy that certain members
of the public and or the media had toward athletes.
That was just unfair. Like if you're able, and the
thing about being a member of the Fab five is
shout out Chris Juwan Christ just had a birthday yesterday,
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shout my brother Chris Juwan, ran Jimmy. Now athletes are
doing what they call pay for play, Mitch means I'm
going to go to said school because they're paying me
x We were actually selling goods in products, So we
were selling shorts, we were selling socks, we were selling shoes.
So that would have been a different burn for us
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because we would not only have gotten paid to play,
but we were actually selling products, which the John Doe
player that plays for Saint John's the second best player,
y'all don't know who he is edging for is the
best player is probably getting one, two, three million dollars
a year just to play for the team. Can't y'all
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get retro?
Speaker 3 (22:13):
If they put all the retro jerseys on sale, I
would buy a jailing Rose Chris Webber.
Speaker 1 (22:17):
Joss Absolutely, Well, there's a word that you appreciate instead
of retro that I've been using. Reparations. We need reparations, shla,
that's what we need, you know what I'm saying. So
any attorneys that's out here listening right now they want
to take on the case, it's like, don't get paid
until we get paid. Hit me up.
Speaker 3 (22:36):
Hold on.
Speaker 1 (22:36):
So you would do that, y'all You think you think
there's a case, then I do think there's a case
there because I've seen a couple of people. I've seen
the Edo Bannon case. I've seen a couple of cases
of people that were I remember watching like video games
that had me on there and I was playing, and
then we thought that was cool. When I'm like, you know, so, yes,
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there is a case there.
Speaker 3 (22:59):
How do you motivate a kid who's making millions in college?
Like do you how do you motivate them to let
them know it's another level. Don't get comfortable here.
Speaker 1 (23:06):
Yeah, because that's that's the appetizer, that's all that's that's
the apple. That's not the main course. So in college
you'll be so those that are destined to make the league.
And usually one of the barometers if you make it
to the McDonald's High School All American Game. And I'm
fortunate enough right now shot the Rock Nation and Same
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Page Entertainment we're producing a documentary called Meal Ticket. And
when you make the McDonald's High School All American Game,
and this is crazy, eighty percent of those players make
it to the league. So when you're in high school,
it's like I got to make the McDonald's game. I
got to make the McDonald's game. And so now that
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you get to college and you're able to get paid
to play, and then you look at what the NBA
players get paid, it's like unique because you're on campus,
you can pay for a mansion and you can have
some f you money, but at the same time it
ain't the like generational wealth money. And so that's an
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opportunity to not only chase your dream by making it
to the league, but also make that kind of dollar
that changes the game forever.
Speaker 5 (24:18):
I think a big part of it too is like
some people feel like because it goes from like you
could you come in and get this kid from wherever
you've never seen this amount of money, and then you
go crazy and in io dos go crazy. You don't
know what to do with the money. Also, so it
puts kids in a position where like they just doing
whatever money being blown. And that's a part of the pushback.
Speaker 1 (24:36):
To correct And as much as I wanted the nil
money and we deserved it, we would have been wilding.
But show out the thing that I appreciate about young
players now y'all don't see them like turning up really
with the money. If you think about it, like there's
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young college players that are making millions of day on
college campuses right now. Like I would have been at
every strip club, bought every car, had every diamond. I
would have been doing all of that and plan at
the same time driving to Detroit in a sprinter every day,
like I would have literally been living in a mansion,
like I literally would have been doing that. So I
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applaud the young people in their discipline of how they're
handling it. But yeah, it does affect the game in
a unique way because it's like a one year contract
each season. So if you're unhappy with your minutes or
you do really well on a bad team. So I
was watching a couple of teams later in the year,
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and I was like, they're not just playing for what's
going to happen with this team next year. They're playing
for the NDL deal for another team that's going to
come and take them from that team. So when you're
watching teams shake hands at the end of games and
you see a coach go up to a player like, hey,
I like you, like you did your thing, a lot
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of those teams end up with that player on their squad.
That literally happens based on the NIL movement.
Speaker 4 (26:10):
Now, going back to the film real quick, I know
you gotta go going back to the film self, what
you know, your serious self, what's high? Because you are
so new in acting. What was one of the most
challenging things about filming because your lead actor, like, I
don't think a lot of.
Speaker 1 (26:23):
People really know what that will.
Speaker 4 (26:25):
All that entails as memorizing scripts and like you said,
working with acting coaches and things like that, where were
the biggest challenges you think?
Speaker 1 (26:33):
The number one thing I told them And as you know,
we were casting everyone, I was like, I need to
be the least experienced person on here. I'm smart enough
to know that I want everybody else to be experienced
in their own right so that they can uplift me
and I can learn from them, and also it can
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still be really good. The number one challenge, and you
guys know is memorizing your lines and also being able
to deliver them with the inflections that they deserve at
that time. So something you might say at the beginning
maybe something different than you might say in the middle,
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there's something that you say at the end. And so
like there's a level of professionalism to come with that.
And there's a room full of people and you can't
keep messing up, you know, So if you show up
and you don't know your lines, it's like you disrespecting everybody.
Speaker 4 (27:33):
Yeah, because now that's time. We allow a certain amount
of time and then that's more money.
Speaker 1 (27:38):
Too, Yes, and then you feel foolish when you're the
person with five people go and say their lines, and
then you're the person that don't know it. And so that,
I feel like is the toughest thing. And the other
and the other thing is to like get in the character.
Like Denzel Washington is like an uncle to me, godfather
(28:01):
to me. He John McClain and Norm Nixon for thirty
years because he was enormous my first agent. And just
watching him get in the character is a real thing,
whether it's putting on weight, whether you're calling him his character,
like when he's doing a movie, you have to call
him that character, you know, like he gets really into it.
(28:24):
The method, yes, and so I think those are the
toughest things. But I learned a lot from the people
on set in Southwest High as a hit. So make
sure y'all run it up on TV right now.
Speaker 3 (28:34):
Did you do anything to be method, like not get
a shape up? Or you gotta have had to have
the sharp.
Speaker 1 (28:38):
Hair, gotta have, gotta have, a gotta have that's undefeated,
gotta have. And the craziest thing, Charlotte is still people
to feel like man he with the Portugal to get
a hair plugged. I'm like, I mean fresh fresh. I'm
from Detroit. I ain't doing all of that. If i
even think my hair is going bald, I'm cutting it
(28:58):
off right. If I done before, I've done the party before. Yeah,
but you wasn't ready to go ball.
Speaker 3 (29:06):
You just did it because you wanted to.
Speaker 1 (29:07):
I just did it because I wanted It was just
a thing. That's a camaraderie thing that we all did.
Is the Fab five, which is were his ball. Some
people just that I were a ball when I didn't
need to.
Speaker 2 (29:19):
Well, Southwest High you can check it on too, bet
now make sure you check it out.
Speaker 1 (29:24):
And we appreciate you for joining us. I appreciate the
love y'all killing the game. Thank y'all from being the
number one showing the game. Appreciate Jalen Rose. It's the
Breakfast Club. Good morning. Every day we click yours up
the Breakfast Club. Finished for y'all. Done,
I don't know. Every day we click yours up the
Breakfast Club. I'm finish for y'all done morning.
Speaker 2 (00:07):
Everybody's dj n V. Just hilarious, charlamage the guy. We
are the Breakfast Club. Long the roses here as well.
We got a special guest.
Speaker 1 (00:14):
In the building, gentlemen, don't family member, how you feeling that?
I'm blessed. I'm great to be here, and uh, I
just want to congratulate you guys for having a number
one spot. You know what I'm saying. You know, I'm
a Detroit native. I spent a lot of time in
LA I spent a lot of time in Atlanta and
(00:35):
obviously in New York, but y'all everywhere, you know what
I'm saying.
Speaker 3 (00:40):
So congratulations, congratulations to you two. You got to add
a producer and acted to your resume. Now, yes, indeed,
but what made you want to start the entertainment production company?
Speaker 1 (00:50):
I mean, it's just an opportunity to either be at
the table or you know, create one. And you know,
being in this game for so very a lot of
people sometimes when you're an athlete, they underestimate the fact
that you're a creator as well. So you know, I'm
an educated human being, Like I went to college and
(01:12):
communications was my major in radio, TV film. So what
you guys are doing and what I'm doing is like
my life. So I pay attention to what's on the
walls and the microphones and the cameras and everything. And
so it was just really an opportunity for me to
grow from being a television personality to curating content but
(01:33):
also being a CEO of Same Page Entertainment and acting.
And now we got a series out right now called
Southwest High. Make sure y'all run it up on tob
We got the number one spot to talk about that.
What is Southwest High about? So Southwest High is a
modern day version of Lean on Me. It's NBA legend.
(01:53):
Nolan Thomas returns to his hometown and wants to save
the high school that he attended before it closes. And
usually when people tell the story of our people, they
tell the story of smaller kids because we're still considered
cute and cuddly and innocent and all of that stuff.
But they don't tell the story of high school kids.
And so I wanted to do that. I wanted to
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highlight the amazing things that they're doing and the discipline
at their show, and the educators and the sacrifices that
they make, but also the challenges that they need to overcome,
because we all know, you know, the issues that a
third grader has is different from the issues that an
eleventh grader has, the sex, drugs, violence, gangs, the exposure
(02:36):
to losing their innocence so very early. So I wanted
to just be in a position to tell those stories
and the same page entertainment, I have that opportunity, so
I'm very grateful. But you did that in real life.
Speaker 3 (02:46):
I mean just opening up the jail and roles leadership
academy I did.
Speaker 1 (02:49):
And the funny thing, I watched Lean on Me like
one hundred and fifty times Smoke Crack Don't exactly, and
I was taking acting classes and watching that show and
I and it gave me confidence because I was like,
Morgan Freeman a better actor than me, but he don't
have a real school, you know what I'm saying. So
(03:11):
it was like me just like really getting into the character.
And I have some amazing people around me, Twanda Braxon,
don Have Kenny Brooklyn Queen, Like there's so many dope
people that make me look good. Stevie Bragg's and so
I'm really excited about the project. You're lead actor.
Speaker 4 (03:28):
How did you end up being it?
Speaker 1 (03:29):
So that's what you wanted to do? Well? When I
woke up one morning, I didn't say, Hey, I want
to be the founder of a school or I want
to be an actor type of thing. It just kind
of happened naturally because usually and I was been in
the lab so much. I realized that many of my
favorite movies feature comedians or artists, but a lot of
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times athletes in today's society don't do scripted. So when
I grew up, they were like blaxploitations. It was like
Jim Brown and so many other people. And then it
became The Rock and earlier was Fred to Hammer Williamson,
Like they were doing scripted, And so in my mind
that I wanted to like be disciplined enough to like
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get in to the classes and learn the lines and
learn posture and all of the things that come with
trying to like get into a character. So that's what
really became Nolan Thomas, who I play in Southwest High
I feel.
Speaker 5 (04:25):
Like the series like Touches, but not directly on like
the Survivors remorse conversation, right, how much of your own
I don't even I mean what you experienced in survivor's
morps and going back and doing all things you do,
did you put into.
Speaker 1 (04:36):
This a lot of it? Because you know, inner city
young people lose their innocence so young, Like just imagine
being like that kid that grows up in the inner
city and you in the living room and I was
this kid. You know, your parents watching Scarface, they smoking weed,
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they're cussing there, They're doing a lot of things that
are a five six seven year old mind sometimes is
not able to process. And it's all exactly so there
was the grown up space table, and there's the little
kid space table, you know, and for me, it's just
like to tell the story of a lot of different perspectives,
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but also to shatter a lot of stereotypes. And I
talked about like the early movies, but what about the nineties.
You can have budgets for people that were telling stories
and it would be like message, So you can have
don't be a minutes, and you can have minutes to society.
You can have like so many different stories that depict
(05:41):
all sides of us. And so if I asked each
of you, which I ain't gonna make y'all do right now,
but I just want you to think about it. If
you were going on a date and you were gonna
watch a movie this Friday, what would you go see?
Just oh oh, it's just some hard stuff out it correct,
nothing for us. Correct. That's the point. So my purpose
(06:01):
is to try to bring back with ice Cube and Spike,
Lee and the Wayne's brothers and so many other people
before me who had budgets that could tell stories for
people that look like us, but tell all sides of us.
And that's what Southwest High does. It's Yes, there's a
young lady that's pregnant in high school, but she's also
(06:21):
a four point zho student. Her father was murdered, but
before he got killed, he was at all of the
school events. He was at all of her games. You know,
there are issues with families, but you notice there sometimes
there's two parents in a parent teacher conference, not just one.
So it's just like little things that get a chance
to tell all sides of our story.
Speaker 3 (06:41):
Did you take any inspiration from your own real life
high school experience?
Speaker 1 (06:45):
I did, and I do. And the incredible thing that
I want people to know about inner city young people
is like the challenges that they have to deal with
are undefeated. Like when I went to school, if we
had social media, I wouldn't be here now, Like just
real like the when I go to our school, like
(07:06):
I have a public high school in Detroit, and our
young people and our families trust me enough to wear uniforms,
So they wear blazers. They submit their cell phones in
the morning, and people say, so, what happens if there's
an emergency, the same thing that happened when you were
going to school. You know, you coming up to the
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school in an emergency ain't going to help the emergency.
It's just going to highlight the emergency. And so for
young people and even in this room, like if you
went the last time, you've been without your phone for
eight hours probably on a plane, right exactly. And so
for young people to trust what we're doing because they
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want to be educated and they want to have their
goals come true, it really means a lot, especially in
the city like Detroit. And so that plays out in
real life at the Jayla Rol's Leadership Academy because we're
sixteen years in, but it also plays out in Southwest
high because I get a chance to tell a version
of those stories. I feel like you've been producing too.
Speaker 3 (08:09):
I know you got the same page entertainment when I
think about Jailing and Jacob, Like, you were one of
the first former NBA players to have a podcast, and
now it is a whole NBA podcast culture.
Speaker 1 (08:20):
How do you feel about that? I was the first
and it started at the same time at Breakfast Club.
Did you start? Twenty ten? Is when I started Jalen
and Jacoba. And the unique thing is you see about
the podcast landscape that it's changed, like people are doing
one or two podcasts a week, Like I was doing
(08:40):
five podcasts a week for fifteen years, yoh daily, so
and it became a podcast, a radio show, then a
television show. And so being in that space taught me
a lot about multimedia. Executive producing a FAB five documentary.
I had a play called The Love Story Ever Told.
(09:01):
It was kind of in a Tyler Perry Chiplin circuit mode,
and we did multiple cities and then we lost John Avery,
who was the father of the Fresh Prince, So that
kind of ended that project. The eighty one Olives with
Kobe Bryant executive producing that so I've been in this
space for a very long time and it's just a
graduation of that mission. Should the active players have podcast
(09:27):
I would say yes. But the difference in being an
active player and having a podcast because I was the
first former player that worked in the media while playing
in the league. But to be real with you, I
did it when I was on a team that was irrelevant.
Speaker 3 (09:46):
Yeah yeah, ok, okay.
Speaker 1 (09:47):
So when I was playing for the Pacers and we
was making it to the finals, I wasn't doing a
podcast because I wasn't going to talk about while Larry
Bird took me out of the game against the Bulls
in nineteen ninety eight and we lost that series, right,
But when I got traded to Chicago and they had
the worst team in the league, and then I was
playing in Toronto, I was like, you know what, we
(10:08):
making the playoffs. You know what I'm saying, I'm gonna
start my second career. It's it's very tough for a
current athlete to be honest and have a podcast while
they're performing because you can't talk about your team, your coach,
your your teammates, but you can't talk about your opponents
and be like legitimately saying what you feel. So it's
(10:31):
not it's not real the locker room, right, It definitely
disrupts the locker room. Because I remember Mike D'Antoni when
I was playing for the Suns and I was doing
it and he didn't want me to do it. I'm like,
I ain't playing, you know what I'm saying. It was
the year when Robert rihit Steve Nash into the scorers table,
and I'll never forget because I was like one of
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the guys. I was like the ninth man and I
was like, yeah, I'm about to get some minutes. I
went back to Phoenix and John McCain was staying in
my hotel, I mean another our apartment. That's another story
for another day, the late Great Yes, and so I'm like,
I get back. We flew back. I was in the
weight room. I was on the trid like I'm gonna play.
I'm gonna play. I will play. He's like, no, you
(11:13):
know what I'm saying. You're gonna talk about it on
your show, so we ain't gonna snow. Yeah, that really happened.
And the John McCain thing, and as I bring it up,
because it just sparked the thought that was one of
the reasons why I started my school, actually, because I
remember him saying when and again, I'm paying respect to
the dead. I ain't got no shots or shade at him,
(11:35):
but this is a real time thing. He was like
stomping to run for president, and they were like, why
don't you feel like you need to go stump in Detroit.
He was like, well, when the world gets sick, Detroit
gets the flu. He said a version of that, and
that always stuck with me, and so to me, I
(11:56):
was like, I'm gonna try to do something to change
the dynamics of how people see d trait and that
kind of spark what led to me now starting to
jail the Jayla world leadership. We ain't have a relationship, No,
I was just rich and he was rich, and we
stay in the suburbs. That was just that. I just
literally just saw him at Valet one time. I'm like, oh, okay,
(12:17):
I got one more question about podcast. Have a podcast
for him right now? No, And that's my guy, And
I know he gonna text me right after this because
everything he says is going to be attributed to something
that people think. He talked about with Lebron and Lebron
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is still a current player. He still represents so many
players and elite players in the game. So when he's
talking about making, it's like you talking about black effect, right,
It's like you you can't separate the two. And for him,
he's put in a tough position to talk about the
moves that are making in the league being made in
(13:01):
the league when he's one of the biggest movers in Shakers,
and it's going to interrupt a lot of things. So
when you see Anthony Davis get moved and then he's
talking about it like that's your client, and so that
makes it personal in particular. And you all know this,
especially when we making millions, Like it's so much money involved,
so you you're like giving away some of the trade
(13:24):
secrets and you're like diminishing a little bit of the
respect sometimes that you may get for the people in
power when you're making moves, when you're speaking about them publicly.
Most of the moves that are highlighted are made in silence.
Speaker 3 (13:40):
Would you want to sign to a agent as a player,
if you were a player, would you sign to an
agent who had a podcast?
Speaker 1 (13:46):
Well, I mean if he was I mean, I mean
they can blank checks. Naw charloah. I mean like Shay
Gilders Alexander getting seventy million a year. You know, they
getting blank check money. So if you get me that
kind of bread, you can say what you want to say.
You know what I'm saying. Everybody else can be mad
at you. You know what I'm saying. But like.
Speaker 5 (14:06):
You think, that's why he still pushes through and he
even addresses of last off stuff because he knows his position.
Speaker 1 (14:10):
He knows his position, and he understands that as long
as I'm still serving my clients, they're going to be happy.
I can deal with the backlash that I might get
from the multimedia. That's how he's approaching.
Speaker 3 (14:22):
People still need agents, And what I mean by that
is like you see these brothers in the NFL, like
they're learning their own contracts and they're kind of cutting
out the middle man. You need that as a playoff.
Speaker 1 (14:32):
I feel like what I learned a talent is and
this is scary actually not to think about it. Some
of the most important conversations about our careers happened and
we're not on the phone, so we don't know what
they're saying, what they're bothering what you know, they can
be like, you know, we know he ain't really worth this,
but you know, I'm a rob Peter to pay Paul
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type of thing. I feel like, if you're transitioning, you
need an agent because the agent now puts you in
position to like be a bridge to your next opportunity.
But if you're re signing with your situation and you've
already been successful there, then you can be in position
to like navigate your own deal.
Speaker 2 (15:16):
I do have a question. You know, I was talking
to me me Brown, who standing behind you. That's front
page news for us, and we were talking about nil deals.
Donald Trump was talking about taking nil.
Speaker 1 (15:25):
Deals off the table.
Speaker 2 (15:26):
What's your thoughts on that?
Speaker 3 (15:28):
Jaylor was like with the first person for college players, correct,
thank you.
Speaker 1 (15:32):
I've I've been talking about this for thirty years, and
that's foolish because what that says is I can't I
can't get paid off of my name, my image, and
my likeness. Like that is crazy, Like what you know,
profession does that exist in And a couple of things
that I learned, just as I like matriculated in sports.
(15:55):
The only sports that really have restrictions and salary caps, unfortunately,
are the ones that are black lid. That's basketball and football.
You don't see that in other sports. You don't see
it the golf, you don't see it in tennis, you
don't see the NASCAR, you don't see it in anything,
because that's a residue of Slavery's we're gonna make as
much money off of you for as long as possible
(16:17):
without you getting paid. That's what the NCAA became. And
so now that players are able to profit off of
their name, image and likeness, I feel like it's really
good for the game. And somebody that's working for TNT
that's covering it, that's why the game is as good
as it's been. You see so many freshmen performing well.
(16:39):
You see the enthusiasm back in the game because players
don't have to rush from their senior year in high
school to their freshman year in college. They don't have
to rush from their sophomore year in college to the
league because they get millions in college. And the most
frustrating thing about my Fab five experience at Michigan is
that the world it feels like I got paid, and
(17:01):
they ain't pay me nothing. They ain't give me nothing.
I wish I could say it in Spanish. I wish
I could say it in Chinese. They ain't give me anything.
And so the fact that they're now able to profit
and you know, still perform, I think it's just like
any other profession you get paid for playing.
Speaker 2 (17:20):
Now has gambling hurt both college and NBA because it's
almost like, how do you tell a college kid, right,
that's that if he scores ten points, he can hit
a five hundred thousand dollars right?
Speaker 1 (17:33):
You see NBA people doing it.
Speaker 2 (17:35):
How do you feel like that that gambling has affected
the NBA in college?
Speaker 1 (17:39):
So like it's almost gambling to me, or like strip clubs,
Like whatever city you were in, it's probably more strip
clubs than colleges. People been gambling since the beginning the time.
Every sporting event has always had an underdog and a favorite.
That means someone's betting. That's always happened during the NCAA tournament,
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everybody in here is going to fill out a bracket.
You're betting, And so now that it's out on the table,
you open up Pandora's box for people to feel like,
you know what, envy's my guy? I know I'm getting
fifteen to night dog. I know I could make two threes, Like,
(18:26):
if you're my cousin, you could bet that my whole career.
That's literally what I would say, And so that kind
of changes the dynamic of performing. But usually a player
is gonna kind of like do what they do anyway.
And You've seen a lot of people get caught up
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in the betting and gaming and gambling of the sport.
But for the most part, I feel like it's always existed,
so it's not going to interrupt the game, but it's
gonna be a disturbance to a lot of players.
Speaker 2 (19:00):
When I hear fans yelling three, yeah, it's gotta best.
Speaker 1 (19:06):
Like I'm saying, I'm sitting in the front road with
one of them, like the Pistons owner who's my partner
with Saint Page Entertainment, Tom Gores, is my good friend.
So I don't bet on the NBA because I can't
be like, okay, I need another three more three, you
know what I'm saying. I feel dirty, But I do
bet on the Lions. I'm like, yo, I need fifty yards,
(19:29):
I need a touchdown or whatever. But yeah, it does
have a huge influence, but it's always existed. It's just
legal now, So.
Speaker 5 (19:37):
What's going to come out of like all of the
like the investigations stuff that are happening right now, Like
how will it change? Because how do you regulate something
as big as sports betting? Like it's all over placed.
Speaker 1 (19:45):
A lot of the people that you seeing get in
trouble about betting and gaming, it's not gonna become them
having to sit down like we see what r Kelly
or puff to they try to figure it out. It's
just more like you just stand on the sideline for
a minute, Chauncey. You just stand on the sideline for
(20:06):
a minute, a couple of other people until we try
to figure out exactly what happened. Like Malik Beasley played
for the Pistons last year. He was second in the
league and three point is made. He's not playing right now.
He's to be playing again soon. But it's not like
he's locked up. It's not like he had to pay
a huge fine. It's just like, yeah, you was, you know,
(20:29):
on the wrong text, you was on the wrong emails.
It's kind of legal, it's kind of illegal, but you
know that's kind of how the discipline seems to be,
you know, dished out recently. I want to go back
to the NIL thing.
Speaker 3 (20:42):
What do you say to people who feel like the
NIL has been hurting college sports?
Speaker 1 (20:46):
Those are people that have had jealousy towards athletes for
a very long time. Those are the same people when
I was talking about this twenty years ago. They were like,
you should just be happy you got a scholarship. I
would be happy if I got a chance to go
to college and somebody was paying for it. But yeah,
ain't nobody paying for you to play? And ain't nobody
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paying to watch you play?
Speaker 5 (21:08):
Really?
Speaker 1 (21:09):
You know what I'm saying, Ain't nobody buying your jersey?
And so that was always a jealousy that certain members
of the public and or the media had toward athletes.
That was just unfair. Like if you're able, and the
thing about being a member of the Fab five is
shout out Chris Juwan Christ just had a birthday yesterday,
(21:30):
shout my brother Chris Juwan, ran Jimmy. Now athletes are
doing what they call pay for play, Mitch means I'm
going to go to said school because they're paying me
x We were actually selling goods in products, So we
were selling shorts, we were selling socks, we were selling shoes.
So that would have been a different burn for us
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because we would not only have gotten paid to play,
but we were actually selling products, which the John Doe
player that plays for Saint John's the second best player,
y'all don't know who he is edging for is the
best player is probably getting one, two, three million dollars
a year just to play for the team. Can't y'all
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get retro?
Speaker 3 (22:13):
If they put all the retro jerseys on sale, I
would buy a jailing Rose Chris Webber.
Speaker 1 (22:17):
Joss Absolutely, Well, there's a word that you appreciate instead
of retro that I've been using. Reparations. We need reparations, shla,
that's what we need, you know what I'm saying. So
any attorneys that's out here listening right now they want
to take on the case, it's like, don't get paid
until we get paid. Hit me up.
Speaker 3 (22:36):
Hold on.
Speaker 1 (22:36):
So you would do that, y'all You think you think
there's a case, then I do think there's a case
there because I've seen a couple of people. I've seen
the Edo Bannon case. I've seen a couple of cases
of people that were I remember watching like video games
that had me on there and I was playing, and
then we thought that was cool. When I'm like, you know, so, yes,
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there is a case there.
Speaker 3 (22:59):
How do you motivate a kid who's making millions in college?
Like do you how do you motivate them to let
them know it's another level. Don't get comfortable here.
Speaker 1 (23:06):
Yeah, because that's that's the appetizer, that's all that's that's
the apple. That's not the main course. So in college
you'll be so those that are destined to make the league.
And usually one of the barometers if you make it
to the McDonald's High School All American Game. And I'm
fortunate enough right now shot the Rock Nation and Same
(23:26):
Page Entertainment we're producing a documentary called Meal Ticket. And
when you make the McDonald's High School All American Game,
and this is crazy, eighty percent of those players make
it to the league. So when you're in high school,
it's like I got to make the McDonald's game. I
got to make the McDonald's game. And so now that
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you get to college and you're able to get paid
to play, and then you look at what the NBA
players get paid, it's like unique because you're on campus,
you can pay for a mansion and you can have
some f you money, but at the same time it
ain't the like generational wealth money. And so that's an
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opportunity to not only chase your dream by making it
to the league, but also make that kind of dollar
that changes the game forever.
Speaker 5 (24:18):
I think a big part of it too is like
some people feel like because it goes from like you
could you come in and get this kid from wherever
you've never seen this amount of money, and then you
go crazy and in io dos go crazy. You don't
know what to do with the money. Also, so it
puts kids in a position where like they just doing
whatever money being blown. And that's a part of the pushback.
Speaker 1 (24:36):
To correct And as much as I wanted the nil
money and we deserved it, we would have been wilding.
But show out the thing that I appreciate about young
players now y'all don't see them like turning up really
with the money. If you think about it, like there's
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young college players that are making millions of day on
college campuses right now. Like I would have been at
every strip club, bought every car, had every diamond. I
would have been doing all of that and plan at
the same time driving to Detroit in a sprinter every day,
like I would have literally been living in a mansion,
like I literally would have been doing that. So I
(25:19):
applaud the young people in their discipline of how they're
handling it. But yeah, it does affect the game in
a unique way because it's like a one year contract
each season. So if you're unhappy with your minutes or
you do really well on a bad team. So I
was watching a couple of teams later in the year,
(25:42):
and I was like, they're not just playing for what's
going to happen with this team next year. They're playing
for the NDL deal for another team that's going to
come and take them from that team. So when you're
watching teams shake hands at the end of games and
you see a coach go up to a player like, hey,
I like you, like you did your thing, a lot
(26:02):
of those teams end up with that player on their squad.
That literally happens based on the NIL movement.
Speaker 4 (26:10):
Now, going back to the film real quick, I know
you gotta go going back to the film self, what
you know, your serious self, what's high? Because you are
so new in acting. What was one of the most
challenging things about filming because your lead actor, like, I
don't think a lot of.
Speaker 1 (26:23):
People really know what that will.
Speaker 4 (26:25):
All that entails as memorizing scripts and like you said,
working with acting coaches and things like that, where were
the biggest challenges you think?
Speaker 1 (26:33):
The number one thing I told them And as you know,
we were casting everyone, I was like, I need to
be the least experienced person on here. I'm smart enough
to know that I want everybody else to be experienced
in their own right so that they can uplift me
and I can learn from them, and also it can
(26:56):
still be really good. The number one challenge, and you
guys know is memorizing your lines and also being able
to deliver them with the inflections that they deserve at
that time. So something you might say at the beginning
maybe something different than you might say in the middle,
(27:18):
there's something that you say at the end. And so
like there's a level of professionalism to come with that.
And there's a room full of people and you can't
keep messing up, you know, So if you show up
and you don't know your lines, it's like you disrespecting everybody.
Speaker 4 (27:33):
Yeah, because now that's time. We allow a certain amount
of time and then that's more money.
Speaker 1 (27:38):
Too, Yes, and then you feel foolish when you're the
person with five people go and say their lines, and
then you're the person that don't know it. And so that,
I feel like is the toughest thing. And the other
and the other thing is to like get in the character.
Like Denzel Washington is like an uncle to me, godfather
(28:01):
to me. He John McClain and Norm Nixon for thirty
years because he was enormous my first agent. And just
watching him get in the character is a real thing,
whether it's putting on weight, whether you're calling him his character,
like when he's doing a movie, you have to call
him that character, you know, like he gets really into it.
(28:24):
The method, yes, and so I think those are the
toughest things. But I learned a lot from the people
on set in Southwest High as a hit. So make
sure y'all run it up on TV right now.
Speaker 3 (28:34):
Did you do anything to be method, like not get
a shape up? Or you gotta have had to have
the sharp.
Speaker 1 (28:38):
Hair, gotta have, gotta have, a gotta have that's undefeated,
gotta have. And the craziest thing, Charlotte is still people
to feel like man he with the Portugal to get
a hair plugged. I'm like, I mean fresh fresh. I'm
from Detroit. I ain't doing all of that. If i
even think my hair is going bald, I'm cutting it
(28:58):
off right. If I done before, I've done the party before. Yeah,
but you wasn't ready to go ball.
Speaker 3 (29:06):
You just did it because you wanted to.
Speaker 1 (29:07):
I just did it because I wanted It was just
a thing. That's a camaraderie thing that we all did.
Is the Fab five, which is were his ball. Some
people just that I were a ball when I didn't
need to.
Speaker 2 (29:19):
Well, Southwest High you can check it on too, bet
now make sure you check it out.
Speaker 1 (29:24):
And we appreciate you for joining us. I appreciate the
love y'all killing the game. Thank y'all from being the
number one showing the game. Appreciate Jalen Rose. It's the
Breakfast Club. Good morning. Every day we click yours up
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