December 8, 2025 • 38 mins
Today on The Breakfast Club, Kehlani Joins Us to Discuss New Music, AI 'Artists', Activism, Motherhood. Listen For More!
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Hold every day up the Breakfast Club.
Speaker 2 (00:06):
Morning.
Speaker 3 (00:07):
Everybody's d j n V. Just hilarious, charlamage the guy
we are the breakfast Club lawl the Roses here as well.
We got a special guest in the building.
Speaker 1 (00:15):
Indeed number one record.
Speaker 3 (00:16):
The record is flying on the Chelsea play what every
Hour on the hour.
Speaker 1 (00:20):
Damn there one of my wife's favorite records.
Speaker 3 (00:22):
Right now, ladies and gentlemen, Klani welcome.
Speaker 2 (00:24):
Hey, hey guys. Are I'm really good?
Speaker 1 (00:27):
Are you blessed black? How's your energy?
Speaker 2 (00:29):
It's good? Can can I tell you guys something before
we started? Of course, it's very important that during this
hour of my life, I let everyone know that my
name is pronounced Klannie. Otherwise, you guys always.
Speaker 1 (00:47):
Good morning.
Speaker 2 (00:49):
I'm really good.
Speaker 4 (00:50):
This might be like a stupid question, but like, why
this right right now? Why have you been correcting people?
Speaker 2 (00:55):
You know what? I feel like I have here and there,
But then like it just blows under, like nobody cares.
Everybody just says how they want to say. It's not
that big of a deal. I have family members who say,
Kilane got you? But do you know, I'm like I'm
thirty now I'm feeling a little like let's just get
you know, it's been ten years, say my name wrong
for ten years.
Speaker 5 (01:13):
You know we all like to create safe spaces for ourselves. Yeah,
I don't think you can create a safe space of
people calling you out your wrong name, because I think
if I was doing an interview and somebody say Kilana,
and the whole interview pight be thinking I should have
corrected them.
Speaker 1 (01:23):
I should have corrected it.
Speaker 2 (01:24):
I should have corrected But no one wants to be
that person as like sour as the moment. It's like,
by the way, scratch that should you know? Well here
we are now now you guys know yes, Kaylin.
Speaker 3 (01:35):
How does it feel fold the number one? How is
that feeling?
Speaker 2 (01:38):
It feels really good. It's been a long time coming.
I've been getting told for the last eight years of
my life. You know, you're always one song away or
one song away or one song away. We see it
for you, and so to have the song and everything
be changing in this way, it's really nice.
Speaker 3 (01:52):
You know that was the record. When y'all did it,
did you know that was going to be it?
Speaker 2 (01:55):
No, it was the most accidental thing in the world.
Even making it was accidental, came about accident. I'm in
La I get a call to come finish this feature.
But the guys like, I'm out to go on this
massive tour, like, so you have to come finish it
with me in person. Bring the producers, Come to Miami,
Bring the producers. We go to Miami and for two
days we just can't figure out this song that we're
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supposed to finish, and we didn't want we didn't want
to waste the time. So we went to a studio
house with Don Mills, who actually plays a guitar on
the song, and Dre Harris came and the first beat
he played was the folded beat from his boy DK
the Punisher, and I bring it in the other room
and I just keep singing this hook and everybody's like,
that's really cool, Like let's build on it. And we
stayed there for a week. But every single day after,
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you know, we made that song, it'd be the one
song from the like the camp that we just kept replaying.
And I hit my label and I was like, I
don't know, like, I know you guys are looking for
what is it. It's like as a junior July at
this time, I'm not sure. I know you guys are
looking for like the club single the Banger. This is
not that, Like, this isn't really song of the Summer.
I don't, but this feels like an introduction to like
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where my mentally musically, my you know, maturation in my
like my sonic journey. And let me just tease it, like,
let me put it out. You guys don't have to,
you know, don't freak out. But it feels good and
it just kind of like took its own life and
there we are.
Speaker 5 (03:15):
Takes a lot of emotional intelligence to fold the man's
clothes and tell him come get him instead of just
throwing them all over the lawn.
Speaker 2 (03:22):
Well, I mean, I'm definitely not folding a man's clothes.
Oh well, anyone's close. Yeah, But I think it's a
very nuanced perspective, and I'm watching a lot of people
be on this, you know, really extreme side of it,
either like Carolin is way better than me, You're clothes
of being a trash can, or I'm not taking time
for that, right, or they're like, yeah, I'm folding instantly,
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I'm folding clothes. And asked who cares if they did
wrong in the song, I verbatim say, like I probably
should have asked for space, but I kind of told
you to walk away, which means I probably jumped the
gun and I overreacted, and I need to express to
you that you did hurt me, but also maybe come
over so we can talk about it.
Speaker 6 (03:59):
So it's more of like a.
Speaker 2 (04:00):
Nuanced, mature conversation existing that's kind of like both you
did hurt me, but we also need to speak and
I also might have not you know, handled this the
right way. And let's just get in the same place
and get in each other's face and come talk about it.
I'm gonna use your clothes, bait.
Speaker 6 (04:15):
I like that guy like accountability.
Speaker 5 (04:17):
Yeah no, goh, you're choosing vulnerability over wearing emotional armor.
Speaker 2 (04:22):
Yeah exactly.
Speaker 1 (04:23):
So, so what shifted in your real life that allowed
that change?
Speaker 2 (04:26):
I think something happens when you you know you're turning thirty,
I mean, astrologically, something major happens. You go through a
side and return and outside of that, I just I've
been through a lot in the last couple of years.
I've really spent, you know, making the changes I needed
to make. I know I saw you guys last time
we talked about mental health and all those you know,
it's been a year since then. I think when I
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came to you guys last time, I was a week
into being diagnosed. I just started medication. I'm not a
year into like that journey. Very settled in, very in
my routine, very very healthy, and being able to assess
myself and assess my situations and you know, just be
on top of my stuff. Honestly, that allowed me to
be able to come to a place to write from
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the perspective I'm able to write from now.
Speaker 3 (05:09):
Were you ever on the other side, meaning where you
have the person to throw the clothes in the bag
and then throw the closes out the window?
Speaker 2 (05:14):
For sure? First of course, Yeah, I've been like a
twenty five year old girl before. Yeah, for sure.
Speaker 4 (05:22):
What has your journey been like since you said the
last time they saw you it was like first week
of Yeah, you know, what has your personal journey been like?
You know, using your medicines now and kind of understanding
you know your body and your mental that what is
that up and down or consistency been like?
Speaker 6 (05:37):
It hasn't been different for you?
Speaker 3 (05:38):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (05:38):
I mean, bipolar disorder is a really layered thing that
also because it's so stigmatized in the world, and there's
so many jokes about it that I think people get
really confused, you know, they think, Okay, I woke up
with an attitude, and then later on I felt better than
I had an attitude. Again, so I'm bipolar. It's a way bigger,
deeper thing than that. And I think medicine and my
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thing therapy journey gave me the opportunity to have thought
applied to my mood and thought applied to situations when
you know, other like, in other ways, I wouldn't have
had the thought. I would have just felt it and
it would have just left, and next thing you know,
there's episodical things happening, and next thing you know, I'm
just gone with the wind. But this, I wouldn't say
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it stops it completely, but it really allows you to
have a process. And I think that that's been the
biggest difference is I have so much, so much option
for process now, and I can go through these things
and take them slowly and think about them and like
have a second where I'm like, you know, I have
the tools now. I have a tool belt of things
I can apply, Like do I go this way? Do
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I take a walk? Do I like this is not
the reaction that I want to This is not the
version of myself that I want to show up in
this situation. So things like that, I think I would.
Speaker 3 (06:49):
Say it's difficult being vulnerable, right for on artists? How
difficult is that because you're showing a side of yourself
that I'm sure you think that maybe people are laugh
But then on the other side, I'm sure as the
side of says, there's so many people dealing with it,
and I love the fact artists are doing more. We
seen it with Gucci the same thing. So when did
you realize I could be that vulnerable? And was it
a hard line to draw to be?
Speaker 1 (07:09):
Like?
Speaker 3 (07:09):
Do I want to be this vulnerable? Do I want
to share this experience?
Speaker 2 (07:12):
I think I've always been messally vulnerable, but I grew
up in front of the world. You know, everybody's been
seeing me doing interviews like this since I was nineteen
years old, and I think when you're viewing it on
the outside, it you kind of timestamp people like artists
get timestamped and whatever version of themselves stuck out to
the fan. So there's people who still view me as
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something I went through when I was twenty four and like,
that's who they'll see me as forever. And when you're
twenty four at that time, you're also confidently speaking in
these interviews because you're like, this is who I am
right now, and I get it. Then ten years later.
Speaker 3 (07:44):
You're like, oh my god, I don't know who that person.
Speaker 2 (07:46):
I mean hasn't been ten years for me. But I'm
thirty now and I'm looking back at things I said
when I was twenty four to twenty five, even twenty seven,
and I'm like, yikes, even a year ago, I'm like, okay,
like growth, I'm different now.
Speaker 5 (07:58):
It's good though, you have the self awareness that that
was supposed to go.
Speaker 1 (08:02):
Yeah, you know this. This haves to feel good to
you too.
Speaker 5 (08:05):
The success are folded because vocally, you were one of
the first artists I saw publicly showing support for Palestine,
and I mean you spoke out when a lot of
people weren't. I know, you lost shows because of it,
you were barred from things. How does it feel having
a success and you have it for being on the
right side of history?
Speaker 2 (08:23):
Yeah? I think it shows that the things that we're
afraid of are more I don't know what the word
is, is not handleable. That's not a word, but like you
know what you mean? Yeah, like we can if we
have the courage to do things. And then so we
see people have success after doing the things that we
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deem scary, we might be more courageous to do them.
And I think it's important that other artists see that
I've been able to thrive after all those things happened.
I mean there's still things that I will never be
allowed to do, or things that that are not getting
picked up or even know, oh yeah, for sure, it
probably forever. I don't think people realize how deep it goes.
(09:04):
I didn't even at the time realize how deep it goes. Also,
to be really frank, I was incredibly maniced. So a
lot of the routes that I went, the yelling and
the f all you guys if you guys don't understand,
and da da dad, and you know what, have my
team could go if y'all don't speak, just these different
routes versus like, hey, let me calm down and be
strategic about this, because in every single movement, in every
single political yeah movement across the board, there's more strategy
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involved in the way that you communicated the way that
you choose to organize the things that you engage with,
and at the time I didn't really have those resources
to think in that way. So yeah, there's still there's
still things that I'm experiencing that I probably will experience
for a really long time. But I think this other
side of it is speaking to the fact that when
there's great music, there's great music, and when people love
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the music and they love the art, then you can't
really be taken out in that way.
Speaker 5 (09:54):
I'm a stern believe it that you should always move
off strategy over emotion, but you can understand the emotion, Yes, it's.
Speaker 2 (10:00):
So understand Well, I'm so much grace for how I
handled it because I was really just passionate and upset.
I was angry. We should have all been angry, it was.
It was really terrible to watch and treacherous to feel
some kind of like a part of because like our
country is such a big part of it. But I
definitely wish that I was able to call myself to
be smarter about the way that I went about it
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for my own sake and for being a leader in
front of a camera for other people.
Speaker 3 (10:26):
And how do you feel when other artists don't speak
about it when they have the opportunity. Do you look,
how does that feel to you? Because you jumped out
the window and yeah, you got banned from things?
Speaker 2 (10:34):
And I think it's really easy to say, like I
want to be very clear with my words, like it
is really easy to say that I hate them for
it or I really blame them. But after experiencing everything
I went through, which went way deeper than just being
banned from things that you know, got into my safety,
my family, dynamics, my friendships, I had to move. It
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put me into really paranoia every time I left the
house of was everybody out to get me? And did
I need security to sit in front of my house?
And was anybody plotting on me? And the death threats
I got it my show was like highly organized, typed out,
detailed death threats. It's easy to say like that shouldn't
matter because we should all be, you know, up in arms,
(11:19):
and part of me is like, yeah, we should. But
also I wish there was it wasn't so sinister, like
the lashings behind the scene. I wish it wasn't so sinister,
and I wish it wasn't something to be afraid of.
I think if we all spoken numbers and there was
so many of us, it wouldn't be so easy to
just come after one person. I think when you leave
it to be one or two people, it's easy to
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just get them out of here. We've seen it historically.
But if it's a lot of people, who can they
get there's a bunch of us.
Speaker 5 (11:47):
Did it make you speak out even more because you
did it the Red Carpet on the AMAS, you voiced
support for Valisteine, So when you were getting backlashs behind
the scenes, you're like, now I'm an go out there
even more.
Speaker 2 (11:58):
I just like I was like I'm already here, Like
I'm already experiencing everything I'm experiencing, and it hasn't stopped,
like it hasn't stopped, Like it's still you know, cease
fire and all still hasn't stopped. And if even if
you know, the genocide itself does stop, there's a much
larger thing at hand there, which is, you know, ending
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the apartheid. So I don't know, I don't think it
was ever like an intentional I'm gonna choose to speak.
I was asked a question on the carpet, and I
answered it and my stance remains the same.
Speaker 5 (12:29):
So it is just interesting that you would still be
getting back like because even the UN Chief said there
are strong reasons to believe that war crimes have been committed.
Speaker 2 (12:36):
Yeah, but we're dealing We're dealing with a very delusional
other side. It's a very delusional side where you have
shown videos and you've shown facts and they've seen things,
and the response is literally, that's not even real, Like
y'all made this up, you know, like you kind of
at some point have to be like, Okay, there's a
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game here, and I'm not going to play this game
with you guys, because you know what you're doing. I'm
not gonna I'm not gonna play it.
Speaker 6 (13:01):
So and you also, I was mitched ice right the comment.
Speaker 4 (13:05):
I saw the comments about you know, you speaking out
on the ice and them going into schools and things
and that I know you're a mom as well, but like,
has there have you experienced any similar pushback from the
other side or wherever because of those comments?
Speaker 2 (13:19):
No? Yeah, Yeah, Zionism is a much larger, deeper, darker,
sinister thing than good old regular American racism, even though
they're very intertwined and they walk hand in hand with
each other a little bit. But yeah, no, I haven't
experienced any pushback from that. I think we're all more
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comfortable talking about that in general than you know, anything else.
Speaker 3 (13:44):
So I was gonna ask, you know, we also seen
you speak out about AI in the industry, and the
crazy part about it is, uh, I agree with you,
but I think it's crazy for an artist. We had
Tank and they were they were talking about they think
it's a good thing, and now you know, artists and
the industry needs to adapt to it. I think it
kind of hurts the fact of the creativity.
Speaker 2 (14:12):
I think there's so many layers to it. One we're
going to put out there that you know, it's not
good for the environment. It's affecting communities everywhere, but especially
disparage Black communities in Americas, messing with the waters, messing
with the air like it's going to make people sick
in the long run. We move on from that and
get into all these aspects of music that are being
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and jobs. Let's forget music, right. I'm speaking to music
because I'm being asked about music, you know, but I'm not.
I think there's a much larger thing of like all
these little jobs that people are employed to do. That
is keeping their families going, that is literally feeding everyone
around them are just gone and we don't realize we're training,
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you know, these systems to do those things. There's things
that I understand. I think I was told about how
it is working for surgeries, like these robots are helping
in surgery, you know, more precise surgeries. And then there's
you know, like the disabled community and being able to
get things done in that way. And I've experienced producers
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and writers be stuck on something and use it to
help or like finish something and then get it replayed
or get it remade. And like those aren't exactly things
that I'm super mad about. Like I'm not going to
bark at them the same way, but overall as a whole, but.
Speaker 3 (15:30):
A fake person, a fake art, as a fake singer.
Speaker 2 (15:32):
It's just unfortunate because I think music is such a
God given thing. It's it's it's the highest gift, you know,
God gave to Earth. It's used in every single religion
across the board to connect with God. It's it's it's
a very powerful thing. And for it to be generated
in that way and also be what it's what it's
using to be generated is a combination of real people's
stories and real people's voices and real people's feelings and
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emotion and for all that to happen even deeper than oh,
it's going to take our because there's this sensationalized sentence
of mind that's like, why do I have to compete
with a computer. But it's not about competing. It's more like,
this is a disruption of something that God gave us,
you know what I mean? And that feels wrong to me.
Like it's music is such a it comes from here,
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it's given here, and to have that generated through a
computer just feels like it just feels wrong.
Speaker 5 (16:23):
I like this argument, Kline. I like this because I
feel the same way. It is a download from God
downloaded from a computer. But you will not have you know,
they have Jesus AI. You can log on and have
meaningful conversations with Jesus.
Speaker 3 (16:36):
And Jesus a message and then yeah, that back a
biblical verse.
Speaker 2 (16:41):
I think it's going to go so far. I think
it's going to go so far. I don't think people
are thinking about the negative implications, like being able to
be framed for things, being able to have images created
of your children that are inappropriate. That lives on people's
computers and they can do whatever they want to it.
When you're when you wake up one day and somebody
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has a sex tape of you that never happened. If
they can make.
Speaker 6 (17:07):
That's happening now?
Speaker 2 (17:08):
Oh it is that? What have you heard about the
people getting the phone calls that was three years ago?
Speaker 1 (17:12):
Yeah, they call you and you hear your kids with somebody.
Speaker 2 (17:15):
I need a X amount of money because my kid
got kidding, Like, I don't think people are. It's just
cute and fun and games now and you want to
make videos of Malcolm X eating and seafood boil with
Martin Luther King and and Michael Jackson and Prince have
an argument about whose funeral was more lit, Like I've
seen them all. You know it's it's but there comes
a point when you have to realize that where there's
always light and fun, there's always going to be the
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extreme of that existing somewhere that we can't access it.
And I also think something is real sinister about the
White House using so much AI.
Speaker 1 (17:45):
Oh, this election is gonna be crazy, Yeah, it's gonna
be nice.
Speaker 2 (17:48):
How are they going to be able to say anything
was real or false.
Speaker 4 (17:51):
What do you say to the people, Because I know
one of the conversations that you were having with specifically
about the three million dollar deal and reported three million
dollars that Zenaya the ai the thing I don't.
Speaker 2 (18:02):
Even know how to the compute it.
Speaker 6 (18:04):
Yeah, the artist that I am on a guy.
Speaker 2 (18:06):
Right.
Speaker 4 (18:07):
There are people that'll say all of that is true,
but there's good and bad with everything. But on the
other hand, you have this black woman who is using
her poetry to write lyrics and now it's three million
dollars wealthier and able to do for her family and
stuff like that.
Speaker 2 (18:18):
I mean, I said, even in the times I've spoken
about her, I'm not mad at her ability to have
done that for herself. I think it's dishonest the way
we're speaking about it, because I think it's a very
interesting thing to be responding to particular comments and saying
certain things but not telling the truth. Tell the truth.
You wrote a couple lines, you said a couple words,
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then you framed I might want it to sound like this,
and go like this, and take from this and make
it sound like this, and make it appeal in this
way and make me look like this and dah da da,
and it did all of that. You're doing fifteen percent
of the job. Let's just be honest about what the
fifteen percent of the job is. If you write poetry,
I would love to write with a poet. I've written
with poets before they come in. We write together. I
turn their words into a song. I use my songwriter
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brain to apply to their poetry brain, and we make
a really beautiful product product. But I'm watching her answer
these questions and I'm watching the lies accumulate and like
take together in her head to try to figure out
what to say. And I'm like, we could just tell
the truth and say what the tool is being used for,
and then maybe it can have its separate charts, or
it cannot because you're right, there is no stopping yet.
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I could get, you know, ship for being said it
should have its own charts, But at this point it's
something has to be done.
Speaker 3 (19:29):
AI with AI artists.
Speaker 5 (19:31):
Yeah, I mean I had created something called guaranteed Human.
I saw that, so at least, you know, if I guess,
if you we're going to be human like the personalities
and music. But if one day they do decide to
play AI music. It'll still you know.
Speaker 1 (19:46):
This is AI music.
Speaker 2 (19:47):
Yeah, so yeah, it's less about I want everybody to
feed their families and be successful at the end of
the day. That like, that's my wish. If I had
one wish in the world, it would be for everybody
to have their needs made. So I'm never mad at that.
Speaker 5 (20:01):
I just you said, because I was going to ask you,
what does authentic music have that AI generated music could
not have?
Speaker 1 (20:07):
God?
Speaker 2 (20:08):
Yeah, that's it. I don't. I don't. I don't play
with things like that. You know, it's it's it's it's
such a deep thing, and I feel like not us
being able to I watched the A artists even talk
about God. Is it is insane? The AI gospel that
is insane. I'm looking in Zenaiamone's Yeah, I'm looking at
Zanaimon's comments and they're saying, since you're anointed, that's kind
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of crazy.
Speaker 6 (20:32):
I mean, I'm go go look at the comments right now.
Speaker 4 (20:34):
But I will say when I first heard the song,
when everybody was up in arms, I had to listen
to the music, and I went and listened and.
Speaker 6 (20:39):
I was like, oh, this is actually like it's good music.
Speaker 2 (20:42):
Because you know what, it's doing though, it's analyzing the
community that she's trying to appeal to, which means it's
studying black women, saying what do black women want to hear?
What perspectives, what type of voices, what kind of stories,
what kind of emotions, and then accumulate all of that
and going, I'm going to give you a package deal
of exactly what you want, even down to what I
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look like.
Speaker 1 (21:05):
It's an artificial annointing.
Speaker 2 (21:08):
Artificial I don't know if that goes on it. I
don't know if that goes on the same sentence.
Speaker 3 (21:12):
But you know, hey, are you a guesst The chat
GPT stuff as well.
Speaker 2 (21:16):
I'm against people putting it in place of very human things. Look,
we are entering it.
Speaker 3 (21:22):
Makes life easier for a lot of people.
Speaker 2 (21:24):
It does, and that's the and that's the argument.
Speaker 3 (21:26):
It does because kids go to school. You can type
it in a pay I have to do a report
on this type and chat GPT.
Speaker 2 (21:32):
The argument of like people who can't afford English classes
that moved here and need English classes is teaching them English?
Like there are there's always gonna be this thing. That's like,
there are things that it is good for, and there
are things that it is bad for outside of you know,
what's it doing, what it's doing to the environment, but
we become gluttonous with it, and it's there is not regulated, guys.
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That's really the problem is that it's not regulated. Did
you not see the moments where people were telling them
or chagbt to cancel itself and then it hops servers
to avoid getting deleted, like I robot, Yes, it hot.
I promise you can look this up right now. It
jumped servers because it didn't want to get If it
can observe all of our emotions, why couldn't it be
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able to think of something as sinister as we could
think of and not want to get canceled or not
want to get deleted, or not want to be gone
or want to it's studying us twenty four seven.
Speaker 1 (22:24):
Yeah, it's something.
Speaker 5 (22:25):
I mean, I totally agree with you with the God thing,
because there's something to be in a spiritual being living
in human existence, right Like we're supposed to make mistakes.
Speaker 1 (22:33):
We're supposed to try to figure things out like us.
Speaker 5 (22:35):
Like yeah, through prayer and meditation and just and therapy.
Speaker 2 (22:39):
Community. Being a community member is really important. Talking to people,
having other people talk to you back, sharing experience, messing
up together, being held accountable, being called in, growing, getting
applause from other humans, getting love from other humans. If
we're all just going to be alone, getting all those
things from a robot, like, we're gonna stunt ourselves as
a world species.
Speaker 1 (23:00):
I agree?
Speaker 2 (23:01):
Then what happens to love and what happens to art
and what happens to music? I just had. I've been
having this conversation for weeks, So, like you know that,
paired with how the internet's obsessed with destroying each other
and calling and completely ruining people's lives and doing all
these kind of things, we're entering a very individualistic, let's
kill community for people kind of world, Like we're isolating
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everyone from every side, technology and each other is becoming
this huge isolation isolation party, and it's really sad.
Speaker 3 (23:29):
How does that make you as a mom now? Because
you have a daughter, So how are you raising your
child in this type of world that you just named?
You know what I mean? Because these other kids when
they go to these colleges and schools, they're gonna be
using chat, GPT. You know, these other kids are gonna
be using things that necessarily you don't agree with you know,
So how do you raise that daughter in this crazy
world with information?
Speaker 2 (23:48):
I think I give her all the information possible. I don't.
I don't lie to my kid. I don't you know.
Obviously you don't just outright tell her terrible things, but
like you give her all the information so she knows
what's out there, and I tell her why I don't
agree with this, why I think this is bad, Why
you know I'm not gonna say no to this, but
I'm gonna give you another option and explain why that
option is probably the better option to do, and let
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her decide. Ultimately, I can't protect her from what she
learns at school and what her friends share and things
like that. But at home, we're very like human focused,
and I'm very communal. Like she's a big extended family.
She's a million aunties and uncles and cousins, and she
lives a very I have community and people around me
kind of life. She's not sitting in the corner on
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her iPad alone all day. That's just not her life.
Speaker 3 (24:32):
Does she see the How does she feel about the
evolved version of Kaylani?
Speaker 2 (24:36):
Right?
Speaker 3 (24:36):
Because you said.
Speaker 2 (24:36):
You've she's six, I don't know.
Speaker 3 (24:39):
Between three and six and four and six like bad mommy's.
Speaker 2 (24:44):
I mean, I've been her mom the whole time. I've
just been my daughter's mom the whole time. How everyone
else gets to see me is never going to be
how she sees me, because I'm just her mommy. I
always have been, I always will be. I don't fall
apart in front of her, don't put it. I don't
put her in any adult situation, and she doesn't have
a clue if anything is going on with me. I've
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just been her happy mom this whole time. And I
take pride in that.
Speaker 6 (25:08):
I saw the interview that you guys did you and
your daughter?
Speaker 4 (25:11):
Yeah, and she, first of all, she's adorable, but I
know that there's always like a protection with like artists
and stars to put their kids out there. And it
was a cute you know, non environment, non in the
adult environment, But like what made you get to a
point where you're like, Okay, I'll let her start doing
things like this because she's watching Mommy perform.
Speaker 2 (25:27):
She wants to stuff like that. Okay, she wants to, she
loves it. But then she gets there and she turned
the camera on and then she's silent because she's scared them.
In the camera's office, She's like, that was great. But
I think I will say this as actually a blanket
statement for personal relationships in general, whether it's your family,
your friends, your loved ones, your girlfriend, your boyfriend, whatever,
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and being a celebrity is we very unfortunately entered a
very high surveillance society. Like it's become so hot, Like
and I'm so passionate about this because we're also a
generation that is very anti police. Right, I'm super anti police,
but I'm watching us all kind of become police. Like
we're filming the couple behind us have an argument, and
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next thing you know, their very private argument has become
a TikTok story time or you know, I'm autumn, I'm
taking somebody's taking screenshots of the first time. They're even
getting my number and they're posting it on their story like, y'all,
I got Kline's number. Like it's all of these I
walk into a restaurant with my partner or my daughter,
and if I'm choosing to hide one of them, I
gotta worry about this at the time. Now, camera, it's
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it's insane. So you kind of come to this point,
right as a person in front of a microscope. Do
I want to be anxious all the time? Twenty four
to seven and experience I experienced fame paranoia, where like
if I'm hiding something or if I'm keeping something to myself,
it gets angled as I'm hiding something or lying to
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the public. And so I'm doing regular things at the
grocery store, even a date with my partner, things like that,
and have to be shell shocked because I'm worried that
people are going to be surveilling me to have some
kind of gotcha moment or some kind of I know
more about them than you do, or look what I
discovered so I can get a moment off of this,
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And whole time it's just my real life. So I
think you can protect as much as you want to protect,
and still that's not a guarantee that you're protected.
Speaker 5 (27:24):
Made you more cautious about who gets access to the
real cayline.
Speaker 2 (27:29):
Yes, I mean from what I can control, you know,
from you know, who hangs out of my inner circle
or who comes to my house, you know, things like that.
But we're also again because of this highly you know,
surveilled kind of like audience state that we're in is
like you're also in a constant state of having to
prove yourself, Like am I a good person? Am I
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a decent person? Do I make good decisions? Do I
mess up sometimes? Have I made a bad decision? Have
I been contradicting? Have I been a hypocrite? And those
are all very human things. But I think we've been
taught now all of a sudden that we have to
constantly show ourselves deeply in order for people to not
create other narratives. Like now, controlling your narrative looks like
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almost bearing your soul just so people can believe that
you're a decent person. So you really don't get room.
The more mysterious you are, the more people I've seen
the craziest things about myself.
Speaker 3 (28:26):
That's the craziest thing You've Oh.
Speaker 2 (28:27):
I I've seen came into people's job and like smacked him,
Like I like I see that? Can you see it?
Speaker 1 (28:36):
No?
Speaker 2 (28:36):
Yeah, I've never walked into nobody job. I've just seen
things I've seen. I've tried to date so and so's
ex girlfriends, little sisters, brother, cousin and did whatever with
them at some random place and a place I've never been,
like just and people will believe it because it's typed
on and app or said by someone on TikTok. And
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if I respond, then I'm too reactive. I need to
be Beyonce and say, fd Internet, Why am I explaining myself?
How dare I explain myself? But the things you see,
it's not normal, It's not normal. But here we are.
You know, this is what we've this is what we've become.
Speaker 1 (29:17):
So you just you said you anti police?
Speaker 5 (29:20):
Yeah, am anti police misconduct, AM anti police brutality. I'm
anti police killing, you know, unarmed black and brown people.
But I'm not anti police. Somebody breaking into my house,
I'm calling that one one.
Speaker 2 (29:32):
But who's to guarantee that the police aren't going to
come and kill you?
Speaker 1 (29:35):
That is true? But what others do we got?
Speaker 2 (29:38):
Well, I think people who are anti police are in
favor of, at some point some other kind of system
coming along that isn't built on the values of the police,
that is built on communal values and actual safety values.
That's assuming that we can imagine up and conjure up
a better world to facilitate something like that. And and
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also on a much larger scale, a lot of crime
is happening because people's needs aren't met. If someone robs
your house, it's probably because they were broken they needed it.
Imagine if those people had enough to survive and enough
to thrive, they probably wouldn't need to rob your house them.
You know what if that's even live your protect your family.
I do believe in people protecting themselves. I'm not anti
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protect yourself. I'm anti there should not be an extension
of the government that is able to do things like
this with no consequence. They don't answer to anyone. They
are gang members. That is a gang. And it goes
even further with them being trained and tied into military
militaries of other places. I'm trying to talk bluntly as
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possible as I can, but it's just a much larger again,
much more sinister thing where things are tied up into
these larger pyramids and police are very close to the top.
Speaker 5 (30:55):
Who does the security at your shows? Because I can
see this right now, the refuse to do security show.
Speaker 2 (31:02):
I would actually love that we actually tried. There was
an initiative that no name was I think, if I'm wrong,
was trying to start where a bunch of us were
trying to sign on to remove police presence from our show,
but only like four or five of us were down,
So then we thought, like, if there's only four five
of us, actually these venues are just gonna stop booking us.
It's easier to just say no to five of us
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than it is to you know, adhere to this. For
just five of us, it's just just just don't even
book these five people. We get a million other shows
a month at the same venue, so I think that's
the preferred thing. I don't want police at my shows.
I don't know if there really are police said my shows.
I don't think so. Maybe if I do like a
summer jam or like a you know, a bigger thing
where there's way more artists. But when it's just me
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that I have security, I got a tongue in standing outside.
Speaker 1 (31:50):
You know, yeah, you gonna catch hell down.
Speaker 2 (31:55):
He's got me.
Speaker 4 (31:58):
I wanted to go back to the microscope, being on
the microscope conversation that you were having. One of the things
that hit the microscope was the back and forth with
your daughter's dade. Where are you guys? Now know that
you guys are supposed to do like mediation and like
you kind of figure things out internally like.
Speaker 2 (32:13):
Full custody, got you full custody?
Speaker 6 (32:16):
Yeah, okay, and then is there contact with him? Okay?
Yeah answers.
Speaker 4 (32:24):
I mean, because that was the situation that I think
for the one of the few times that we kind
of saw you're in a mom light, but you also
are then having to come and defend yourself so much
because the things that were claimed.
Speaker 2 (32:37):
Yeah, I sat silent for most of it.
Speaker 4 (32:39):
You were silent for a while until there was like,
like the claim and he did backtrack a lot of
the claim.
Speaker 6 (32:46):
But yeah, all of that.
Speaker 4 (32:46):
Yeah, while that's happening, and you're sitting silent, right and
you still have your baby here. How difficult that you're
silent and you still have your baby.
Speaker 2 (32:54):
Yeah, I mean it's very real. You're in a you're
in a court related situation. So at the end of
the day, you're you're listening to your lawyer, you're listening
to ultimately, I was trying to protect my child. No
mother wants to wake up, And I can bear anything
attached to my name in my hurt. I might throw
a little bit of a fit about it, but I'm
an adult. I can bear that. When you see your
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child's name attach to these things. Your child's photo next
to certain words and certain verbiage and certain things. That's
a bit of a heartbreaker. And so I had to really, honestly,
I probably learned the most about God through that situation
because I.
Speaker 3 (33:30):
Was on my kids.
Speaker 6 (33:35):
Beyond that.
Speaker 2 (33:36):
God protect me, and God protect my child, Like really,
God shield my child. God make it so that when
she goes to school, there's no other parents that are
going to bring this up. There is no children that
are going to be told something scary and then have
to act weird towards her. God may this not follow
her when she's older. Because I can bear it and
I can deal with it because I've been through a lot.
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This actually was only treacherous because it was so public.
I have through many things that were way worse than this,
And ultimately it was just it was just thinking about
your kid, thinking about your kid, thinking about your kid.
That is it.
Speaker 5 (34:09):
And how come when people be on their healing journey
and you know, we start meditating and you know, going
to therapy and charging our crystals under the supermoo, why
we got.
Speaker 1 (34:18):
To be in a cult? They say, we're in a cult.
Speaker 2 (34:21):
It's a it's a tough situation. Ultimately the claims were false,
it wasn't true. He backtracked a lot, a lot of
was discovered, a lot came out in certain documents of
whatever the court case X y Z, and a lot
of it just got refuted. And people who are very
obsessed with disliking me, and we're waiting for a gotcha
moment again, in a moment to prove she's so fucking weird.
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We'll hold on to that forever. But that's not really
my ministry to change their mind. Yeah, you know, those
are very miserable. We have a lot of a lot
of misery on this earth like and as for you know,
hopefully they find some healing and they find something that
makes them happy, because ultimately doing that is not going
to make it they want any happier. But maybe in
the moment, do you.
Speaker 4 (35:03):
Are probably not now like the conversation you had with
your daughter about all of this at some point, have
you You haven't had that yet or have you?
Speaker 2 (35:10):
I mean I had to explain to her why I
was going to court, and why what visitation is and
what that means, and why we're not on communication and
all those kind of things, and she was very understanding,
and she was, She's moved through it and we've taken
the day by day.
Speaker 5 (35:25):
Yeah, yeah, you switching gears it is. You said Brandy
was on your Mount Rushmore.
Speaker 1 (35:34):
Yes, who else?
Speaker 2 (35:37):
Stevie Wonder is the head of the Mount Rushmore is
his vocals are just I think artistreet okay, okay, okay.
Speaker 4 (35:46):
And this for everybody or you said every artist or
every singer should have this Mount Rushmore.
Speaker 2 (35:50):
I think every singer should have different kinds of Mount Rushmore's.
Like I said, she should be on the vocal Mount Rushmore,
but also artistry like in general, but she should be
on everyone's vocal Mount More undred per.
Speaker 1 (36:01):
I want to know your vocal, my vocal, my Russian?
Speaker 2 (36:03):
Okay, Brandy Beyonce.
Speaker 3 (36:10):
Can't put them next to each other.
Speaker 2 (36:19):
Have a beautiful tour, having a beautiful tour, please, I'm sorry. Yeah,
Beyonce w Houston obviously, Yeah, definitely.
Speaker 1 (36:30):
What I wanted to make sure it was.
Speaker 2 (36:31):
Yeah, I mean that's a lineage, right, there's no Brandy
without Yeah what did you think I didn't think that?
Speaker 1 (36:42):
Sometimes?
Speaker 4 (36:43):
No, no, no, I love trying to like teach you
without you trying to.
Speaker 2 (36:47):
Get a gotcha moment, right, bringing it back.
Speaker 4 (36:51):
It's like a O G pull up, but it can
feel like but I didn't assume if okay, as long.
Speaker 3 (36:56):
As you can't talk. The other day we had Christopher
Williams up here and I.
Speaker 4 (36:59):
Was like, the comedian, no, because we had a comedian
we had on the schedule and I didn't know the
names of this new comedian and singer. Then he asked me,
and I said, is that the one that's the comedian?
And then I said, you.
Speaker 1 (37:14):
Know Christopher Wiams And she goes, oh, you ha, a comedian.
Speaker 4 (37:20):
Exact the comedian And then he said she doesn't know.
I said, oh, so that's the R and B singer.
Speaker 6 (37:24):
Did that not happen last one?
Speaker 1 (37:26):
Brandy?
Speaker 2 (37:28):
I'm gonna say, Mariah, Yeah, absolutely. We're talking about like
freaky level like channel talent of like okay, well, when
will anybody be able to ever do that again? Type people?
You know? So I think that's that's the that's the point.
But you know what else? Who else singers? But you
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know they all went to church. That's what it is,
really so and.
Speaker 1 (38:00):
Then you got your Patty Bell and your.
Speaker 2 (38:01):
Exactly exactly We could go on forever.
Speaker 3 (38:04):
Yeah, but if you want to see Kaylani. She's gonna
be performing at our jingle Ball in Miami and our
jingle Ball in Atlanta. All right, so get your tickets.
Speaker 2 (38:13):
Yeah, I'm going to do Yeah.
Speaker 3 (38:14):
We're gonna get into this single right now. Let's get
into the single right now. We appreciate you for joining us.
Speaker 2 (38:19):
Thank you. We always get real deep in here.
Speaker 3 (38:21):
One time Kaylanie didn't want to come up, and she's like,
I ain't with the Breakfast.
Speaker 2 (38:24):
I was scared, you guys, scared of his mother.
Speaker 3 (38:25):
But we got through it.
Speaker 2 (38:27):
We were having different conversations then yes, I look at us.
Speaker 3 (38:31):
Growth Absolutely, let's get into the single right now. Here's
out the window. It's Kaylanie is right, yes, you guys,
it's the Breakfast Club. Good morning, every day, Breakfast Club
Hold every day up the Breakfast Club.
Speaker 2 (00:06):
Morning.
Speaker 3 (00:07):
Everybody's d j n V. Just hilarious, charlamage the guy
we are the breakfast Club lawl the Roses here as well.
We got a special guest in the building.
Speaker 1 (00:15):
Indeed number one record.
Speaker 3 (00:16):
The record is flying on the Chelsea play what every
Hour on the hour.
Speaker 1 (00:20):
Damn there one of my wife's favorite records.
Speaker 3 (00:22):
Right now, ladies and gentlemen, Klani welcome.
Speaker 2 (00:24):
Hey, hey guys. Are I'm really good?
Speaker 1 (00:27):
Are you blessed black? How's your energy?
Speaker 2 (00:29):
It's good? Can can I tell you guys something before
we started? Of course, it's very important that during this
hour of my life, I let everyone know that my
name is pronounced Klannie. Otherwise, you guys always.
Speaker 1 (00:47):
Good morning.
Speaker 2 (00:49):
I'm really good.
Speaker 4 (00:50):
This might be like a stupid question, but like, why
this right right now? Why have you been correcting people?
Speaker 2 (00:55):
You know what? I feel like I have here and there,
But then like it just blows under, like nobody cares.
Everybody just says how they want to say. It's not
that big of a deal. I have family members who say,
Kilane got you? But do you know, I'm like I'm
thirty now I'm feeling a little like let's just get
you know, it's been ten years, say my name wrong
for ten years.
Speaker 5 (01:13):
You know we all like to create safe spaces for ourselves. Yeah,
I don't think you can create a safe space of
people calling you out your wrong name, because I think
if I was doing an interview and somebody say Kilana,
and the whole interview pight be thinking I should have
corrected them.
Speaker 1 (01:23):
I should have corrected it.
Speaker 2 (01:24):
I should have corrected But no one wants to be
that person as like sour as the moment. It's like,
by the way, scratch that should you know? Well here
we are now now you guys know yes, Kaylin.
Speaker 3 (01:35):
How does it feel fold the number one? How is
that feeling?
Speaker 2 (01:38):
It feels really good. It's been a long time coming.
I've been getting told for the last eight years of
my life. You know, you're always one song away or
one song away or one song away. We see it
for you, and so to have the song and everything
be changing in this way, it's really nice.
Speaker 3 (01:52):
You know that was the record. When y'all did it,
did you know that was going to be it?
Speaker 2 (01:55):
No, it was the most accidental thing in the world.
Even making it was accidental, came about accident. I'm in
La I get a call to come finish this feature.
But the guys like, I'm out to go on this
massive tour, like, so you have to come finish it
with me in person. Bring the producers, Come to Miami,
Bring the producers. We go to Miami and for two
days we just can't figure out this song that we're
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supposed to finish, and we didn't want we didn't want
to waste the time. So we went to a studio
house with Don Mills, who actually plays a guitar on
the song, and Dre Harris came and the first beat
he played was the folded beat from his boy DK
the Punisher, and I bring it in the other room
and I just keep singing this hook and everybody's like,
that's really cool, Like let's build on it. And we
stayed there for a week. But every single day after,
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you know, we made that song, it'd be the one
song from the like the camp that we just kept replaying.
And I hit my label and I was like, I
don't know, like, I know you guys are looking for
what is it. It's like as a junior July at
this time, I'm not sure. I know you guys are
looking for like the club single the Banger. This is
not that, Like, this isn't really song of the Summer.
I don't, but this feels like an introduction to like
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where my mentally musically, my you know, maturation in my
like my sonic journey. And let me just tease it, like,
let me put it out. You guys don't have to,
you know, don't freak out. But it feels good and
it just kind of like took its own life and
there we are.
Speaker 5 (03:15):
Takes a lot of emotional intelligence to fold the man's
clothes and tell him come get him instead of just
throwing them all over the lawn.
Speaker 2 (03:22):
Well, I mean, I'm definitely not folding a man's clothes.
Oh well, anyone's close. Yeah, But I think it's a
very nuanced perspective, and I'm watching a lot of people
be on this, you know, really extreme side of it,
either like Carolin is way better than me, You're clothes
of being a trash can, or I'm not taking time
for that, right, or they're like, yeah, I'm folding instantly,
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I'm folding clothes. And asked who cares if they did
wrong in the song, I verbatim say, like I probably
should have asked for space, but I kind of told
you to walk away, which means I probably jumped the
gun and I overreacted, and I need to express to
you that you did hurt me, but also maybe come
over so we can talk about it.
Speaker 6 (03:59):
So it's more of like a.
Speaker 2 (04:00):
Nuanced, mature conversation existing that's kind of like both you
did hurt me, but we also need to speak and
I also might have not you know, handled this the
right way. And let's just get in the same place
and get in each other's face and come talk about it.
I'm gonna use your clothes, bait.
Speaker 6 (04:15):
I like that guy like accountability.
Speaker 5 (04:17):
Yeah no, goh, you're choosing vulnerability over wearing emotional armor.
Speaker 2 (04:22):
Yeah exactly.
Speaker 1 (04:23):
So, so what shifted in your real life that allowed
that change?
Speaker 2 (04:26):
I think something happens when you you know you're turning thirty,
I mean, astrologically, something major happens. You go through a
side and return and outside of that, I just I've
been through a lot in the last couple of years.
I've really spent, you know, making the changes I needed
to make. I know I saw you guys last time
we talked about mental health and all those you know,
it's been a year since then. I think when I
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came to you guys last time, I was a week
into being diagnosed. I just started medication. I'm not a
year into like that journey. Very settled in, very in
my routine, very very healthy, and being able to assess
myself and assess my situations and you know, just be
on top of my stuff. Honestly, that allowed me to
be able to come to a place to write from
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the perspective I'm able to write from now.
Speaker 3 (05:09):
Were you ever on the other side, meaning where you
have the person to throw the clothes in the bag
and then throw the closes out the window?
Speaker 2 (05:14):
For sure? First of course, Yeah, I've been like a
twenty five year old girl before. Yeah, for sure.
Speaker 4 (05:22):
What has your journey been like since you said the
last time they saw you it was like first week
of Yeah, you know, what has your personal journey been like?
You know, using your medicines now and kind of understanding
you know your body and your mental that what is
that up and down or consistency been like?
Speaker 6 (05:37):
It hasn't been different for you?
Speaker 3 (05:38):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (05:38):
I mean, bipolar disorder is a really layered thing that
also because it's so stigmatized in the world, and there's
so many jokes about it that I think people get
really confused, you know, they think, Okay, I woke up
with an attitude, and then later on I felt better than
I had an attitude. Again, so I'm bipolar. It's a way bigger,
deeper thing than that. And I think medicine and my
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thing therapy journey gave me the opportunity to have thought
applied to my mood and thought applied to situations when
you know, other like, in other ways, I wouldn't have
had the thought. I would have just felt it and
it would have just left, and next thing you know,
there's episodical things happening, and next thing you know, I'm
just gone with the wind. But this, I wouldn't say
(06:19):
it stops it completely, but it really allows you to
have a process. And I think that that's been the
biggest difference is I have so much, so much option
for process now, and I can go through these things
and take them slowly and think about them and like
have a second where I'm like, you know, I have
the tools now. I have a tool belt of things
I can apply, Like do I go this way? Do
(06:41):
I take a walk? Do I like this is not
the reaction that I want to This is not the
version of myself that I want to show up in
this situation. So things like that, I think I would.
Speaker 3 (06:49):
Say it's difficult being vulnerable, right for on artists? How
difficult is that because you're showing a side of yourself
that I'm sure you think that maybe people are laugh
But then on the other side, I'm sure as the
side of says, there's so many people dealing with it,
and I love the fact artists are doing more. We
seen it with Gucci the same thing. So when did
you realize I could be that vulnerable? And was it
a hard line to draw to be?
Speaker 1 (07:09):
Like?
Speaker 3 (07:09):
Do I want to be this vulnerable? Do I want
to share this experience?
Speaker 2 (07:12):
I think I've always been messally vulnerable, but I grew
up in front of the world. You know, everybody's been
seeing me doing interviews like this since I was nineteen
years old, and I think when you're viewing it on
the outside, it you kind of timestamp people like artists
get timestamped and whatever version of themselves stuck out to
the fan. So there's people who still view me as
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something I went through when I was twenty four and like,
that's who they'll see me as forever. And when you're
twenty four at that time, you're also confidently speaking in
these interviews because you're like, this is who I am
right now, and I get it. Then ten years later.
Speaker 3 (07:44):
You're like, oh my god, I don't know who that person.
Speaker 2 (07:46):
I mean hasn't been ten years for me. But I'm
thirty now and I'm looking back at things I said
when I was twenty four to twenty five, even twenty seven,
and I'm like, yikes, even a year ago, I'm like, okay,
like growth, I'm different now.
Speaker 5 (07:58):
It's good though, you have the self awareness that that
was supposed to go.
Speaker 1 (08:02):
Yeah, you know this. This haves to feel good to
you too.
Speaker 5 (08:05):
The success are folded because vocally, you were one of
the first artists I saw publicly showing support for Palestine,
and I mean you spoke out when a lot of
people weren't. I know, you lost shows because of it,
you were barred from things. How does it feel having
a success and you have it for being on the
right side of history?
Speaker 2 (08:23):
Yeah? I think it shows that the things that we're
afraid of are more I don't know what the word
is, is not handleable. That's not a word, but like you
know what you mean? Yeah, like we can if we
have the courage to do things. And then so we
see people have success after doing the things that we
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deem scary, we might be more courageous to do them.
And I think it's important that other artists see that
I've been able to thrive after all those things happened.
I mean there's still things that I will never be
allowed to do, or things that that are not getting
picked up or even know, oh yeah, for sure, it
probably forever. I don't think people realize how deep it goes.
(09:04):
I didn't even at the time realize how deep it goes. Also,
to be really frank, I was incredibly maniced. So a
lot of the routes that I went, the yelling and
the f all you guys if you guys don't understand,
and da da dad, and you know what, have my
team could go if y'all don't speak, just these different
routes versus like, hey, let me calm down and be
strategic about this, because in every single movement, in every
single political yeah movement across the board, there's more strategy
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involved in the way that you communicated the way that
you choose to organize the things that you engage with,
and at the time I didn't really have those resources
to think in that way. So yeah, there's still there's
still things that I'm experiencing that I probably will experience
for a really long time. But I think this other
side of it is speaking to the fact that when
there's great music, there's great music, and when people love
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the music and they love the art, then you can't
really be taken out in that way.
Speaker 5 (09:54):
I'm a stern believe it that you should always move
off strategy over emotion, but you can understand the emotion, Yes, it's.
Speaker 2 (10:00):
So understand Well, I'm so much grace for how I
handled it because I was really just passionate and upset.
I was angry. We should have all been angry, it was.
It was really terrible to watch and treacherous to feel
some kind of like a part of because like our
country is such a big part of it. But I
definitely wish that I was able to call myself to
be smarter about the way that I went about it
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for my own sake and for being a leader in
front of a camera for other people.
Speaker 3 (10:26):
And how do you feel when other artists don't speak
about it when they have the opportunity. Do you look,
how does that feel to you? Because you jumped out
the window and yeah, you got banned from things?
Speaker 2 (10:34):
And I think it's really easy to say, like I
want to be very clear with my words, like it
is really easy to say that I hate them for
it or I really blame them. But after experiencing everything
I went through, which went way deeper than just being
banned from things that you know, got into my safety,
my family, dynamics, my friendships, I had to move. It
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put me into really paranoia every time I left the
house of was everybody out to get me? And did
I need security to sit in front of my house?
And was anybody plotting on me? And the death threats
I got it my show was like highly organized, typed out,
detailed death threats. It's easy to say like that shouldn't
matter because we should all be, you know, up in arms,
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and part of me is like, yeah, we should. But
also I wish there was it wasn't so sinister, like
the lashings behind the scene. I wish it wasn't so sinister,
and I wish it wasn't something to be afraid of.
I think if we all spoken numbers and there was
so many of us, it wouldn't be so easy to
just come after one person. I think when you leave
it to be one or two people, it's easy to
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just get them out of here. We've seen it historically.
But if it's a lot of people, who can they
get there's a bunch of us.
Speaker 5 (11:47):
Did it make you speak out even more because you
did it the Red Carpet on the AMAS, you voiced
support for Valisteine, So when you were getting backlashs behind
the scenes, you're like, now I'm an go out there
even more.
Speaker 2 (11:58):
I just like I was like I'm already here, Like
I'm already experiencing everything I'm experiencing, and it hasn't stopped,
like it hasn't stopped, Like it's still you know, cease
fire and all still hasn't stopped. And if even if
you know, the genocide itself does stop, there's a much
larger thing at hand there, which is, you know, ending
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the apartheid. So I don't know, I don't think it
was ever like an intentional I'm gonna choose to speak.
I was asked a question on the carpet, and I
answered it and my stance remains the same.
Speaker 5 (12:29):
So it is just interesting that you would still be
getting back like because even the UN Chief said there
are strong reasons to believe that war crimes have been committed.
Speaker 2 (12:36):
Yeah, but we're dealing We're dealing with a very delusional
other side. It's a very delusional side where you have
shown videos and you've shown facts and they've seen things,
and the response is literally, that's not even real, Like
y'all made this up, you know, like you kind of
at some point have to be like, Okay, there's a
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game here, and I'm not going to play this game
with you guys, because you know what you're doing. I'm
not gonna I'm not gonna play it.
Speaker 6 (13:01):
So and you also, I was mitched ice right the comment.
Speaker 4 (13:05):
I saw the comments about you know, you speaking out
on the ice and them going into schools and things
and that I know you're a mom as well, but like,
has there have you experienced any similar pushback from the
other side or wherever because of those comments?
Speaker 2 (13:19):
No? Yeah, Yeah, Zionism is a much larger, deeper, darker,
sinister thing than good old regular American racism, even though
they're very intertwined and they walk hand in hand with
each other a little bit. But yeah, no, I haven't
experienced any pushback from that. I think we're all more
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comfortable talking about that in general than you know, anything else.
Speaker 3 (13:44):
So I was gonna ask, you know, we also seen
you speak out about AI in the industry, and the
crazy part about it is, uh, I agree with you,
but I think it's crazy for an artist. We had
Tank and they were they were talking about they think
it's a good thing, and now you know, artists and
the industry needs to adapt to it. I think it
kind of hurts the fact of the creativity.
Speaker 2 (14:12):
I think there's so many layers to it. One we're
going to put out there that you know, it's not
good for the environment. It's affecting communities everywhere, but especially
disparage Black communities in Americas, messing with the waters, messing
with the air like it's going to make people sick
in the long run. We move on from that and
get into all these aspects of music that are being
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and jobs. Let's forget music, right. I'm speaking to music
because I'm being asked about music, you know, but I'm not.
I think there's a much larger thing of like all
these little jobs that people are employed to do. That
is keeping their families going, that is literally feeding everyone
around them are just gone and we don't realize we're training,
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you know, these systems to do those things. There's things
that I understand. I think I was told about how
it is working for surgeries, like these robots are helping
in surgery, you know, more precise surgeries. And then there's
you know, like the disabled community and being able to
get things done in that way. And I've experienced producers
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and writers be stuck on something and use it to
help or like finish something and then get it replayed
or get it remade. And like those aren't exactly things
that I'm super mad about. Like I'm not going to
bark at them the same way, but overall as a whole, but.
Speaker 3 (15:30):
A fake person, a fake art, as a fake singer.
Speaker 2 (15:32):
It's just unfortunate because I think music is such a
God given thing. It's it's it's the highest gift, you know,
God gave to Earth. It's used in every single religion
across the board to connect with God. It's it's it's
a very powerful thing. And for it to be generated
in that way and also be what it's what it's
using to be generated is a combination of real people's
stories and real people's voices and real people's feelings and
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emotion and for all that to happen even deeper than oh,
it's going to take our because there's this sensationalized sentence
of mind that's like, why do I have to compete
with a computer. But it's not about competing. It's more like,
this is a disruption of something that God gave us,
you know what I mean? And that feels wrong to me.
Like it's music is such a it comes from here,
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it's given here, and to have that generated through a
computer just feels like it just feels wrong.
Speaker 5 (16:23):
I like this argument, Kline. I like this because I
feel the same way. It is a download from God
downloaded from a computer. But you will not have you know,
they have Jesus AI. You can log on and have
meaningful conversations with Jesus.
Speaker 3 (16:36):
And Jesus a message and then yeah, that back a
biblical verse.
Speaker 2 (16:41):
I think it's going to go so far. I think
it's going to go so far. I don't think people
are thinking about the negative implications, like being able to
be framed for things, being able to have images created
of your children that are inappropriate. That lives on people's
computers and they can do whatever they want to it.
When you're when you wake up one day and somebody
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has a sex tape of you that never happened. If
they can make.
Speaker 6 (17:07):
That's happening now?
Speaker 2 (17:08):
Oh it is that? What have you heard about the
people getting the phone calls that was three years ago?
Speaker 1 (17:12):
Yeah, they call you and you hear your kids with somebody.
Speaker 2 (17:15):
I need a X amount of money because my kid
got kidding, Like, I don't think people are. It's just
cute and fun and games now and you want to
make videos of Malcolm X eating and seafood boil with
Martin Luther King and and Michael Jackson and Prince have
an argument about whose funeral was more lit, Like I've
seen them all. You know it's it's but there comes
a point when you have to realize that where there's
always light and fun, there's always going to be the
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extreme of that existing somewhere that we can't access it.
And I also think something is real sinister about the
White House using so much AI.
Speaker 1 (17:45):
Oh, this election is gonna be crazy, Yeah, it's gonna
be nice.
Speaker 2 (17:48):
How are they going to be able to say anything
was real or false.
Speaker 4 (17:51):
What do you say to the people, Because I know
one of the conversations that you were having with specifically
about the three million dollar deal and reported three million
dollars that Zenaya the ai the thing I don't.
Speaker 2 (18:02):
Even know how to the compute it.
Speaker 6 (18:04):
Yeah, the artist that I am on a guy.
Speaker 2 (18:06):
Right.
Speaker 4 (18:07):
There are people that'll say all of that is true,
but there's good and bad with everything. But on the
other hand, you have this black woman who is using
her poetry to write lyrics and now it's three million
dollars wealthier and able to do for her family and
stuff like that.
Speaker 2 (18:18):
I mean, I said, even in the times I've spoken
about her, I'm not mad at her ability to have
done that for herself. I think it's dishonest the way
we're speaking about it, because I think it's a very
interesting thing to be responding to particular comments and saying
certain things but not telling the truth. Tell the truth.
You wrote a couple lines, you said a couple words,
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then you framed I might want it to sound like this,
and go like this, and take from this and make
it sound like this, and make it appeal in this
way and make me look like this and dah da da,
and it did all of that. You're doing fifteen percent
of the job. Let's just be honest about what the
fifteen percent of the job is. If you write poetry,
I would love to write with a poet. I've written
with poets before they come in. We write together. I
turn their words into a song. I use my songwriter
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brain to apply to their poetry brain, and we make
a really beautiful product product. But I'm watching her answer
these questions and I'm watching the lies accumulate and like
take together in her head to try to figure out
what to say. And I'm like, we could just tell
the truth and say what the tool is being used for,
and then maybe it can have its separate charts, or
it cannot because you're right, there is no stopping yet.
(19:23):
I could get, you know, ship for being said it
should have its own charts, But at this point it's
something has to be done.
Speaker 3 (19:29):
AI with AI artists.
Speaker 5 (19:31):
Yeah, I mean I had created something called guaranteed Human.
I saw that, so at least, you know, if I guess,
if you we're going to be human like the personalities
and music. But if one day they do decide to
play AI music. It'll still you know.
Speaker 1 (19:46):
This is AI music.
Speaker 2 (19:47):
Yeah, so yeah, it's less about I want everybody to
feed their families and be successful at the end of
the day. That like, that's my wish. If I had
one wish in the world, it would be for everybody
to have their needs made. So I'm never mad at that.
Speaker 5 (20:01):
I just you said, because I was going to ask you,
what does authentic music have that AI generated music could
not have?
Speaker 1 (20:07):
God?
Speaker 2 (20:08):
Yeah, that's it. I don't. I don't. I don't play
with things like that. You know, it's it's it's it's
such a deep thing, and I feel like not us
being able to I watched the A artists even talk
about God. Is it is insane? The AI gospel that
is insane. I'm looking in Zenaiamone's Yeah, I'm looking at
Zanaimon's comments and they're saying, since you're anointed, that's kind
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of crazy.
Speaker 6 (20:32):
I mean, I'm go go look at the comments right now.
Speaker 4 (20:34):
But I will say when I first heard the song,
when everybody was up in arms, I had to listen
to the music, and I went and listened and.
Speaker 6 (20:39):
I was like, oh, this is actually like it's good music.
Speaker 2 (20:42):
Because you know what, it's doing though, it's analyzing the
community that she's trying to appeal to, which means it's
studying black women, saying what do black women want to hear?
What perspectives, what type of voices, what kind of stories,
what kind of emotions, and then accumulate all of that
and going, I'm going to give you a package deal
of exactly what you want, even down to what I
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look like.
Speaker 1 (21:05):
It's an artificial annointing.
Speaker 2 (21:08):
Artificial I don't know if that goes on it. I
don't know if that goes on the same sentence.
Speaker 3 (21:12):
But you know, hey, are you a guesst The chat
GPT stuff as well.
Speaker 2 (21:16):
I'm against people putting it in place of very human things. Look,
we are entering it.
Speaker 3 (21:22):
Makes life easier for a lot of people.
Speaker 2 (21:24):
It does, and that's the and that's the argument.
Speaker 3 (21:26):
It does because kids go to school. You can type
it in a pay I have to do a report
on this type and chat GPT.
Speaker 2 (21:32):
The argument of like people who can't afford English classes
that moved here and need English classes is teaching them English?
Like there are there's always gonna be this thing. That's like,
there are things that it is good for, and there
are things that it is bad for outside of you know,
what's it doing, what it's doing to the environment, but
we become gluttonous with it, and it's there is not regulated, guys.
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That's really the problem is that it's not regulated. Did
you not see the moments where people were telling them
or chagbt to cancel itself and then it hops servers
to avoid getting deleted, like I robot, Yes, it hot.
I promise you can look this up right now. It
jumped servers because it didn't want to get If it
can observe all of our emotions, why couldn't it be
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able to think of something as sinister as we could
think of and not want to get canceled or not
want to get deleted, or not want to be gone
or want to it's studying us twenty four seven.
Speaker 1 (22:24):
Yeah, it's something.
Speaker 5 (22:25):
I mean, I totally agree with you with the God thing,
because there's something to be in a spiritual being living
in human existence, right Like we're supposed to make mistakes.
Speaker 1 (22:33):
We're supposed to try to figure things out like us.
Speaker 5 (22:35):
Like yeah, through prayer and meditation and just and therapy.
Speaker 2 (22:39):
Community. Being a community member is really important. Talking to people,
having other people talk to you back, sharing experience, messing
up together, being held accountable, being called in, growing, getting
applause from other humans, getting love from other humans. If
we're all just going to be alone, getting all those
things from a robot, like, we're gonna stunt ourselves as
a world species.
Speaker 1 (23:00):
I agree?
Speaker 2 (23:01):
Then what happens to love and what happens to art
and what happens to music? I just had. I've been
having this conversation for weeks, So, like you know that,
paired with how the internet's obsessed with destroying each other
and calling and completely ruining people's lives and doing all
these kind of things, we're entering a very individualistic, let's
kill community for people kind of world, Like we're isolating
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everyone from every side, technology and each other is becoming
this huge isolation isolation party, and it's really sad.
Speaker 3 (23:29):
How does that make you as a mom now? Because
you have a daughter, So how are you raising your
child in this type of world that you just named?
You know what I mean? Because these other kids when
they go to these colleges and schools, they're gonna be
using chat, GPT. You know, these other kids are gonna
be using things that necessarily you don't agree with you know,
So how do you raise that daughter in this crazy
world with information?
Speaker 2 (23:48):
I think I give her all the information possible. I don't.
I don't lie to my kid. I don't you know.
Obviously you don't just outright tell her terrible things, but
like you give her all the information so she knows
what's out there, and I tell her why I don't
agree with this, why I think this is bad, Why
you know I'm not gonna say no to this, but
I'm gonna give you another option and explain why that
option is probably the better option to do, and let
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her decide. Ultimately, I can't protect her from what she
learns at school and what her friends share and things
like that. But at home, we're very like human focused,
and I'm very communal. Like she's a big extended family.
She's a million aunties and uncles and cousins, and she
lives a very I have community and people around me
kind of life. She's not sitting in the corner on
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her iPad alone all day. That's just not her life.
Speaker 3 (24:32):
Does she see the How does she feel about the
evolved version of Kaylani?
Speaker 2 (24:36):
Right?
Speaker 3 (24:36):
Because you said.
Speaker 2 (24:36):
You've she's six, I don't know.
Speaker 3 (24:39):
Between three and six and four and six like bad mommy's.
Speaker 2 (24:44):
I mean, I've been her mom the whole time. I've
just been my daughter's mom the whole time. How everyone
else gets to see me is never going to be
how she sees me, because I'm just her mommy. I
always have been, I always will be. I don't fall
apart in front of her, don't put it. I don't
put her in any adult situation, and she doesn't have
a clue if anything is going on with me. I've
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just been her happy mom this whole time. And I
take pride in that.
Speaker 6 (25:08):
I saw the interview that you guys did you and
your daughter?
Speaker 4 (25:11):
Yeah, and she, first of all, she's adorable, but I
know that there's always like a protection with like artists
and stars to put their kids out there. And it
was a cute you know, non environment, non in the
adult environment, But like what made you get to a
point where you're like, Okay, I'll let her start doing
things like this because she's watching Mommy perform.
Speaker 2 (25:27):
She wants to stuff like that. Okay, she wants to, she
loves it. But then she gets there and she turned
the camera on and then she's silent because she's scared them.
In the camera's office, She's like, that was great. But
I think I will say this as actually a blanket
statement for personal relationships in general, whether it's your family,
your friends, your loved ones, your girlfriend, your boyfriend, whatever,
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and being a celebrity is we very unfortunately entered a
very high surveillance society. Like it's become so hot, Like
and I'm so passionate about this because we're also a
generation that is very anti police. Right, I'm super anti police,
but I'm watching us all kind of become police. Like
we're filming the couple behind us have an argument, and
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next thing you know, their very private argument has become
a TikTok story time or you know, I'm autumn, I'm
taking somebody's taking screenshots of the first time. They're even
getting my number and they're posting it on their story like, y'all,
I got Kline's number. Like it's all of these I
walk into a restaurant with my partner or my daughter,
and if I'm choosing to hide one of them, I
gotta worry about this at the time. Now, camera, it's
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it's insane. So you kind of come to this point,
right as a person in front of a microscope. Do
I want to be anxious all the time? Twenty four
to seven and experience I experienced fame paranoia, where like
if I'm hiding something or if I'm keeping something to myself,
it gets angled as I'm hiding something or lying to
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the public. And so I'm doing regular things at the
grocery store, even a date with my partner, things like that,
and have to be shell shocked because I'm worried that
people are going to be surveilling me to have some
kind of gotcha moment or some kind of I know
more about them than you do, or look what I
discovered so I can get a moment off of this,
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And whole time it's just my real life. So I
think you can protect as much as you want to protect,
and still that's not a guarantee that you're protected.
Speaker 5 (27:24):
Made you more cautious about who gets access to the
real cayline.
Speaker 2 (27:29):
Yes, I mean from what I can control, you know,
from you know, who hangs out of my inner circle
or who comes to my house, you know, things like that.
But we're also again because of this highly you know,
surveilled kind of like audience state that we're in is
like you're also in a constant state of having to
prove yourself, Like am I a good person? Am I
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a decent person? Do I make good decisions? Do I
mess up sometimes? Have I made a bad decision? Have
I been contradicting? Have I been a hypocrite? And those
are all very human things. But I think we've been
taught now all of a sudden that we have to
constantly show ourselves deeply in order for people to not
create other narratives. Like now, controlling your narrative looks like
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almost bearing your soul just so people can believe that
you're a decent person. So you really don't get room.
The more mysterious you are, the more people I've seen
the craziest things about myself.
Speaker 3 (28:26):
That's the craziest thing You've Oh.
Speaker 2 (28:27):
I I've seen came into people's job and like smacked him,
Like I like I see that? Can you see it?
Speaker 1 (28:36):
No?
Speaker 2 (28:36):
Yeah, I've never walked into nobody job. I've just seen
things I've seen. I've tried to date so and so's
ex girlfriends, little sisters, brother, cousin and did whatever with
them at some random place and a place I've never been,
like just and people will believe it because it's typed
on and app or said by someone on TikTok. And
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if I respond, then I'm too reactive. I need to
be Beyonce and say, fd Internet, Why am I explaining myself?
How dare I explain myself? But the things you see,
it's not normal, It's not normal. But here we are.
You know, this is what we've this is what we've become.
Speaker 1 (29:17):
So you just you said you anti police?
Speaker 5 (29:20):
Yeah, am anti police misconduct, AM anti police brutality. I'm
anti police killing, you know, unarmed black and brown people.
But I'm not anti police. Somebody breaking into my house,
I'm calling that one one.
Speaker 2 (29:32):
But who's to guarantee that the police aren't going to
come and kill you?
Speaker 1 (29:35):
That is true? But what others do we got?
Speaker 2 (29:38):
Well, I think people who are anti police are in
favor of, at some point some other kind of system
coming along that isn't built on the values of the police,
that is built on communal values and actual safety values.
That's assuming that we can imagine up and conjure up
a better world to facilitate something like that. And and
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also on a much larger scale, a lot of crime
is happening because people's needs aren't met. If someone robs
your house, it's probably because they were broken they needed it.
Imagine if those people had enough to survive and enough
to thrive, they probably wouldn't need to rob your house them.
You know what if that's even live your protect your family.
I do believe in people protecting themselves. I'm not anti
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protect yourself. I'm anti there should not be an extension
of the government that is able to do things like
this with no consequence. They don't answer to anyone. They
are gang members. That is a gang. And it goes
even further with them being trained and tied into military
militaries of other places. I'm trying to talk bluntly as
(30:43):
possible as I can, but it's just a much larger again,
much more sinister thing where things are tied up into
these larger pyramids and police are very close to the top.
Speaker 5 (30:55):
Who does the security at your shows? Because I can
see this right now, the refuse to do security show.
Speaker 2 (31:02):
I would actually love that we actually tried. There was
an initiative that no name was I think, if I'm wrong,
was trying to start where a bunch of us were
trying to sign on to remove police presence from our show,
but only like four or five of us were down,
So then we thought, like, if there's only four five
of us, actually these venues are just gonna stop booking us.
It's easier to just say no to five of us
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than it is to you know, adhere to this. For
just five of us, it's just just just don't even
book these five people. We get a million other shows
a month at the same venue, so I think that's
the preferred thing. I don't want police at my shows.
I don't know if there really are police said my shows.
I don't think so. Maybe if I do like a
summer jam or like a you know, a bigger thing
where there's way more artists. But when it's just me
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that I have security, I got a tongue in standing outside.
Speaker 1 (31:50):
You know, yeah, you gonna catch hell down.
Speaker 2 (31:55):
He's got me.
Speaker 4 (31:58):
I wanted to go back to the microscope, being on
the microscope conversation that you were having. One of the things
that hit the microscope was the back and forth with
your daughter's dade. Where are you guys? Now know that
you guys are supposed to do like mediation and like
you kind of figure things out internally like.
Speaker 2 (32:13):
Full custody, got you full custody?
Speaker 6 (32:16):
Yeah, okay, and then is there contact with him? Okay?
Yeah answers.
Speaker 4 (32:24):
I mean, because that was the situation that I think
for the one of the few times that we kind
of saw you're in a mom light, but you also
are then having to come and defend yourself so much
because the things that were claimed.
Speaker 2 (32:37):
Yeah, I sat silent for most of it.
Speaker 4 (32:39):
You were silent for a while until there was like,
like the claim and he did backtrack a lot of
the claim.
Speaker 6 (32:46):
But yeah, all of that.
Speaker 4 (32:46):
Yeah, while that's happening, and you're sitting silent, right and
you still have your baby here. How difficult that you're
silent and you still have your baby.
Speaker 2 (32:54):
Yeah, I mean it's very real. You're in a you're
in a court related situation. So at the end of
the day, you're you're listening to your lawyer, you're listening
to ultimately, I was trying to protect my child. No
mother wants to wake up, And I can bear anything
attached to my name in my hurt. I might throw
a little bit of a fit about it, but I'm
an adult. I can bear that. When you see your
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child's name attach to these things. Your child's photo next
to certain words and certain verbiage and certain things. That's
a bit of a heartbreaker. And so I had to really, honestly,
I probably learned the most about God through that situation
because I.
Speaker 3 (33:30):
Was on my kids.
Speaker 6 (33:35):
Beyond that.
Speaker 2 (33:36):
God protect me, and God protect my child, Like really,
God shield my child. God make it so that when
she goes to school, there's no other parents that are
going to bring this up. There is no children that
are going to be told something scary and then have
to act weird towards her. God may this not follow
her when she's older. Because I can bear it and
I can deal with it because I've been through a lot.
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This actually was only treacherous because it was so public.
I have through many things that were way worse than this,
And ultimately it was just it was just thinking about
your kid, thinking about your kid, thinking about your kid.
That is it.
Speaker 5 (34:09):
And how come when people be on their healing journey
and you know, we start meditating and you know, going
to therapy and charging our crystals under the supermoo, why
we got.
Speaker 1 (34:18):
To be in a cult? They say, we're in a cult.
Speaker 2 (34:21):
It's a it's a tough situation. Ultimately the claims were false,
it wasn't true. He backtracked a lot, a lot of
was discovered, a lot came out in certain documents of
whatever the court case X y Z, and a lot
of it just got refuted. And people who are very
obsessed with disliking me, and we're waiting for a gotcha
moment again, in a moment to prove she's so fucking weird.
(34:44):
We'll hold on to that forever. But that's not really
my ministry to change their mind. Yeah, you know, those
are very miserable. We have a lot of a lot
of misery on this earth like and as for you know,
hopefully they find some healing and they find something that
makes them happy, because ultimately doing that is not going
to make it they want any happier. But maybe in
the moment, do you.
Speaker 4 (35:03):
Are probably not now like the conversation you had with
your daughter about all of this at some point, have
you You haven't had that yet or have you?
Speaker 2 (35:10):
I mean I had to explain to her why I
was going to court, and why what visitation is and
what that means, and why we're not on communication and
all those kind of things, and she was very understanding,
and she was, She's moved through it and we've taken
the day by day.
Speaker 5 (35:25):
Yeah, yeah, you switching gears it is. You said Brandy
was on your Mount Rushmore.
Speaker 1 (35:34):
Yes, who else?
Speaker 2 (35:37):
Stevie Wonder is the head of the Mount Rushmore is
his vocals are just I think artistreet okay, okay, okay.
Speaker 4 (35:46):
And this for everybody or you said every artist or
every singer should have this Mount Rushmore.
Speaker 2 (35:50):
I think every singer should have different kinds of Mount Rushmore's.
Like I said, she should be on the vocal Mount Rushmore,
but also artistry like in general, but she should be
on everyone's vocal Mount More undred per.
Speaker 1 (36:01):
I want to know your vocal, my vocal, my Russian?
Speaker 2 (36:03):
Okay, Brandy Beyonce.
Speaker 3 (36:10):
Can't put them next to each other.
Speaker 2 (36:19):
Have a beautiful tour, having a beautiful tour, please, I'm sorry. Yeah,
Beyonce w Houston obviously, Yeah, definitely.
Speaker 1 (36:30):
What I wanted to make sure it was.
Speaker 2 (36:31):
Yeah, I mean that's a lineage, right, there's no Brandy
without Yeah what did you think I didn't think that?
Speaker 1 (36:42):
Sometimes?
Speaker 4 (36:43):
No, no, no, I love trying to like teach you
without you trying to.
Speaker 2 (36:47):
Get a gotcha moment, right, bringing it back.
Speaker 4 (36:51):
It's like a O G pull up, but it can
feel like but I didn't assume if okay, as long.
Speaker 3 (36:56):
As you can't talk. The other day we had Christopher
Williams up here and I.
Speaker 4 (36:59):
Was like, the comedian, no, because we had a comedian
we had on the schedule and I didn't know the
names of this new comedian and singer. Then he asked me,
and I said, is that the one that's the comedian?
And then I said, you.
Speaker 1 (37:14):
Know Christopher Wiams And she goes, oh, you ha, a comedian.
Speaker 4 (37:20):
Exact the comedian And then he said she doesn't know.
I said, oh, so that's the R and B singer.
Speaker 6 (37:24):
Did that not happen last one?
Speaker 1 (37:26):
Brandy?
Speaker 2 (37:28):
I'm gonna say, Mariah, Yeah, absolutely. We're talking about like
freaky level like channel talent of like okay, well, when
will anybody be able to ever do that again? Type people?
You know? So I think that's that's the that's the point.
But you know what else? Who else singers? But you
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know they all went to church. That's what it is,
really so and.
Speaker 1 (38:00):
Then you got your Patty Bell and your.
Speaker 2 (38:01):
Exactly exactly We could go on forever.
Speaker 3 (38:04):
Yeah, but if you want to see Kaylani. She's gonna
be performing at our jingle Ball in Miami and our
jingle Ball in Atlanta. All right, so get your tickets.
Speaker 2 (38:13):
Yeah, I'm going to do Yeah.
Speaker 3 (38:14):
We're gonna get into this single right now. Let's get
into the single right now. We appreciate you for joining us.
Speaker 2 (38:19):
Thank you. We always get real deep in here.
Speaker 3 (38:21):
One time Kaylanie didn't want to come up, and she's like,
I ain't with the Breakfast.
Speaker 2 (38:24):
I was scared, you guys, scared of his mother.
Speaker 3 (38:25):
But we got through it.
Speaker 2 (38:27):
We were having different conversations then yes, I look at us.
Speaker 3 (38:31):
Growth Absolutely, let's get into the single right now. Here's
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