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Speaker 1 (00:00):
I don't know every day. Click yours up the breakfast club.
Speaker 2 (00:05):
You don't finish for y'all.
Speaker 1 (00:06):
Dune morning. Everybody is stej n V. Just hilarious.
Speaker 3 (00:11):
Charlamagne the guy. We are the breakfast club. Lawna ROAs
is here as well.
Speaker 1 (00:15):
We got a special guest in the building, the great
one Yerrowack. Ladies and gentlemen welcome.
Speaker 2 (00:19):
Hey everybody, Good morning, booth, what's up? They should be
the brunch club. It's too early.
Speaker 4 (00:24):
I'm not gonna lie.
Speaker 1 (00:25):
And this is the morning we don't have breakfast, which
is crazy.
Speaker 2 (00:28):
This is a really dinner club for dinner club. I
don't like breakfast.
Speaker 4 (00:32):
Well, we can have brunch.
Speaker 2 (00:33):
I'll be eating like cheese steaks. I roll out of bands.
Speaker 4 (00:35):
Eating cheese steaks, damn in the morning.
Speaker 2 (00:39):
Because like who said, like who said you can't do that.
Speaker 1 (00:42):
I don't understand. People are gonna have to taste of breakfast.
And you're from Philly, so that's like.
Speaker 2 (00:46):
Like every now then, every now and then.
Speaker 1 (00:49):
But like, I don't like gritch and eggs, not every morning,
some turkey sausage.
Speaker 2 (00:54):
It's okay, you want to be bacon, y'all. I realized bacon.
It's like a Philly thing. You beef baking.
Speaker 4 (01:01):
I never even heard of beef baking. You put it
on your cheese steak. No, you can't put I was.
Speaker 1 (01:07):
Just saying, what's the best cheese Stakso nowadays the.
Speaker 5 (01:11):
Best cheesteaks spot I'm gonna go with. I'm gonna say
Stella's Northeast Spellers. Yeah it's it's a few spots. Everybody's
mentioned it, but I'll stick to what I know.
Speaker 4 (01:21):
Okay, yeah, yeah, you don't like isabbs cool?
Speaker 2 (01:25):
If you're down the way, Yeah, I like cool, it's cool.
You thought that was like gonna be throw.
Speaker 4 (01:36):
It's like said it was.
Speaker 2 (01:38):
Though, it's cool, but it ain't.
Speaker 4 (01:39):
So where I gotta go?
Speaker 2 (01:40):
He said, you can go to Stellar's know next time
you take you all right?
Speaker 4 (01:44):
Cool?
Speaker 1 (01:44):
Cool? Yeah you're gonna need security though.
Speaker 2 (01:46):
No.
Speaker 4 (01:48):
No, no, no made me cool? Were we are now?
Speaker 6 (01:51):
Spoke?
Speaker 4 (01:52):
No no no no since me cutting remember when me
cut his head, we became cool cool?
Speaker 1 (01:57):
Went home with the community name.
Speaker 4 (02:01):
That he was talking about, something like from like ten years.
Speaker 1 (02:03):
Okay, you've been.
Speaker 4 (02:06):
Past that were cool?
Speaker 1 (02:07):
Sure? Yeah yeah them, I ain't go. Frontier looked at
you kind of crazy. She was like, we cool.
Speaker 4 (02:14):
She was supposed to be.
Speaker 2 (02:16):
But we ride, we go against each other, but we
ride for each other.
Speaker 1 (02:20):
That's how you supposed to be.
Speaker 4 (02:21):
Yeah, now we that's what that's cool. I don't know
why it's like that. But but you ain't check with him.
You ain't need something like oh yeah, just cool for
red check you would have said that.
Speaker 2 (02:31):
I'm gonn check with it though.
Speaker 4 (02:32):
We're good.
Speaker 1 (02:33):
You wa got the new project wax museum.
Speaker 2 (02:36):
Wax museum.
Speaker 1 (02:37):
Oh it's wax music wax museum.
Speaker 4 (02:39):
It's a player on words museum.
Speaker 1 (02:41):
Okay, okay, okay, yeah, what does that mean to you?
That title?
Speaker 2 (02:45):
She said? Get closer. I just want to just like
this wax museum.
Speaker 4 (02:51):
So I'm not gonna lie.
Speaker 2 (02:52):
Like I keep notebooks with me.
Speaker 5 (02:54):
I'm always taking notes constantly, like just living everyday life,
moving around, and I'm just like always trying to find
a way.
Speaker 2 (03:00):
To be you know, quirky and different and just like
I said, play with words.
Speaker 5 (03:04):
So I always had the term wax museum like like
in my like notes, like my earlier red books, Like
I always just had like just different ways to play
with my name, and things start to align them, like,
you know, I think it's time to use this phrase,
like I got whack in the box, I got any
any wacky term you can think of.
Speaker 2 (03:22):
Like I'm just like I want to play with my name.
I love using my name and even.
Speaker 5 (03:25):
Going back to that, like I remember first deciding that
y'all want to use my government name tier a weak.
It's crazy, right, like and then to be a rapper
and like just be like, yo, that's a wag rapper.
In school, like my my teachers called me miss wack
and I hated it. It was so cringe to me
because like, come on, growing up.
Speaker 4 (03:47):
But what made you finally say in twenty seventeen, now
I'm gonna go from dizzlz t.
Speaker 5 (03:52):
Dizzel t t away. Yeah, because I wanted to be great.
I wanted to be a legend in all the household
names they used. Most of them used their names Lamar
Lauren Hill.
Speaker 1 (04:02):
Yeah yeah, I like legendary, dizzle, dizzy dizzy, I not azzle.
But you know, I like how you.
Speaker 3 (04:18):
I thought it was how you broke it down because
you said the wax museum came from if you ever
see a wax figure figure, yea breaking down because I
thought that was dope.
Speaker 1 (04:24):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (04:25):
So First of all, I remember my first time going
to l A. Like the first place I wanted to
go to was the Wax Museum. I thought that was
I'm like, I gotta go there, my nice name, Like
that's gonna be so cool. And I just of course
wanted to experience and see if, like how real the
wax figures looked.
Speaker 2 (04:42):
They weren't as well as I thought.
Speaker 5 (04:44):
And then I'm just like all right, of course, me
being in my rat molde, me being an mc A writer,
I'm like, oh, I can make this a line, This
can be cohesive with the storyline for the for the project.
So wax figure from a distance, it looks real, but
when you get up close.
Speaker 2 (04:58):
She's like, a it's not.
Speaker 4 (05:00):
I thought.
Speaker 5 (05:00):
So it's like, you know, just being let down like
people I met over the years and you know, just
like I said, coming up in the industry, yeah let
me down.
Speaker 2 (05:10):
Yeah yeah, I was like, I thought you and that's
why it's hard for me.
Speaker 5 (05:13):
Like I got some some new switching people out my team,
Like I work with people for ten years and like
it just ain't been it hasn't been working something like
it's time for you to us to go our separate ways.
Speaker 2 (05:23):
I'm saying that to say.
Speaker 4 (05:26):
It's not always.
Speaker 2 (05:29):
Hmmm, I'm trying to find a correct way.
Speaker 4 (05:31):
To to say it.
Speaker 1 (05:32):
There's no correct way. Yeah, it's just you really forget
what you was about to say.
Speaker 2 (05:38):
That's yeah, I did.
Speaker 5 (05:41):
I thought switch switching team members out, you know, because
like I said, you know, you see, I think sometimes
when you're standing close to a giant, you don't realize
that that person is a giant, you know what I mean.
So it's like, yeah, people get comfortable and they sleep.
Some people lose faith, you know what I mean. Like,
but y'all going through a cycle and just trying to
(06:02):
figure each day. We're just trying to figure it out.
Speaker 1 (06:04):
You know. The thing I like about you is that
whenever I hear you, when I see you, it's just
like ya, you can't put her in a box. But
I still feel like there's another level of how nuts
you could really get? Yeah, I be wondering, just like
this is this industry give you the freedom to be
yourself for real?
Speaker 5 (06:18):
Definitely, But you know it's always a catch. Like I
tell people no, A lot of people don't say no.
I say, that's one of my favorite words. Yeah, and
that's you know, so sometimes you say no and then
people full away. Everybody's so emotional like and it don't
be nothing personal, like even down to like people sending
you records. They'll send you record like a record, Yo,
I want you on this, but the record.
Speaker 2 (06:37):
Might be ass and it's like, can you got anything
else back there? I gotta feel it, you know where
you always like that?
Speaker 5 (06:48):
Yeah, always yeah, And coming up I had to like
people are like, yo, you like you're too real.
Speaker 2 (06:54):
I didn't know it was a such thing as being
too real, you know.
Speaker 3 (06:59):
Yeah, so it's like you get so busy though, Like
I was listening to your album and every time I
hate you, I forget how nice you are.
Speaker 1 (07:06):
Crazy I'm a nice person, No, not nice, forget.
Speaker 4 (07:14):
Much.
Speaker 1 (07:14):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (07:15):
So so listen when I was rapping, everybody's like nobody,
like they weren't taken to it. And it's just like
I'm sitting here like killing myself at like up late
at night, writing being creative. And then I put it
out and people were just like, oh whatever, or that's
too that's too much, it's too complicated. So I'm like,
all right, well this was boring to me anyway, let
me go really like coming from Philly, all we know
(07:35):
how to do is rap, like freestyle cipher, like we
just going hard, bars, bars, lyrics, lyrics.
Speaker 2 (07:41):
That's cool.
Speaker 5 (07:41):
I came up on that, Like I said, I studied.
I feel like I mastered that. I got to a
level where I'm like, I'm respectable. But the hard part
is making a record, creating a song. That's like where
we all kind of get like all of the MC's,
all the rappers, it's like, yo, he could rap it,
he could wrap to any beat, but when they come
to making a song, he can't make a record. So
that was one of my biggest fears. So I'm like,
you know what, Okay, Like I'm I'm rapping and rapping
(08:03):
and I got my respect, but now it's time to
Like I said, I want to be a household name.
Speaker 2 (08:07):
I want to be an artist. I don't want to
just be a rapper.
Speaker 4 (08:10):
I saw you say that this is your first real
rap project. Yeah, but but then I saw the interview
with Descibe. You said rap was born at one point.
What made you want to come back and just get
into rep Is it not born anymore? You feel like
a really a really important person in my life.
Speaker 5 (08:25):
His name's kni he uh. He's like mentor manager, engineer,
he does everything. He's like, what I really need you
to rap right now? I was like, and he's like, well,
I choose the beats and just just do ITID don't
think about it, just do it. And I'm like all right,
and then I just did it.
Speaker 4 (08:42):
So he made all these beats.
Speaker 2 (08:43):
No, he didn't make them all.
Speaker 1 (08:44):
He chose them like he you know, yeah intro and
you're like, yo, they say I should rap more? You
talking about yeah?
Speaker 5 (08:51):
No, I mean but the people people, we want you
to rap, and people just like want me to pop
it more. I'm not like, naturally, I don't.
Speaker 4 (08:58):
I wish you was so bad?
Speaker 1 (09:00):
Yeah that too, I don't toe column man, what.
Speaker 4 (09:07):
Talk about?
Speaker 2 (09:08):
Like just be like they want me to brag, like
be on it like this.
Speaker 4 (09:16):
What I like about?
Speaker 1 (09:17):
They called me whack. Ain't nobody ever called you? That's
that's how you start the album?
Speaker 4 (09:22):
What do you mean her name?
Speaker 5 (09:24):
Call me?
Speaker 1 (09:24):
Nobody say my government? But I thought it was a double.
Speaker 4 (09:27):
It is a double.
Speaker 1 (09:28):
One time nobody calling you wha. I ain't never hear that.
Speaker 4 (09:32):
You meant that you heard people calling you back? But
also that but see right there.
Speaker 2 (09:35):
That's what you're supposed to say right now.
Speaker 1 (09:37):
That's it.
Speaker 4 (09:38):
That's just here say that her teacher used to call
her miss Wag. Yeah, everybody call her.
Speaker 5 (09:44):
It's a double one time though for sure they called
me wack. Luckily it's my government.
Speaker 1 (09:48):
Like it's like like when somebody be like, yeah, I
know I'm not that cute, just.
Speaker 4 (09:52):
So they can hear like, oh no, you fly sure, Charlotte. Anyway,
why why is Wag museum only twenty seven minutes?
Speaker 2 (10:02):
That's all I had, just like, look, this is what
we're gonna do.
Speaker 5 (10:11):
I gotta go because I want to get back to
singing and being silly and and just you know, making
different records like that's like that rap stuff is boring
to me.
Speaker 3 (10:18):
Now you also say that you make it seem I
would say that you feel like the culture doesn't respect you.
Speaker 1 (10:23):
That's what the flowers on I think.
Speaker 4 (10:25):
So I put that when we went to the view,
Yeah I saw that was this up.
Speaker 1 (10:31):
Why do you feel like favor right now? Why do
you feel that way?
Speaker 2 (10:34):
My favorite?
Speaker 4 (10:35):
No, I'm talking to you.
Speaker 2 (10:36):
I just want you to know I really appreciate it
that because I don't see them do nothing post but
you posted.
Speaker 4 (10:39):
I appreciate that I did, so why you.
Speaker 1 (10:42):
I posted your verse off north side off? Now, okay,
sorry because I gave Lauren a shout out.
Speaker 4 (10:51):
I did.
Speaker 1 (10:52):
We definitely, yeah, but why do you feel that way
about the industry? Didn't answer.
Speaker 5 (10:58):
Because I wrapped so good and y'all, how y'all sleeping?
Like I'm not gonna lie like the record TD, I
washed all of them niggas.
Speaker 1 (11:05):
Yeah, I really did.
Speaker 4 (11:09):
I really did.
Speaker 2 (11:10):
Like that's crazy.
Speaker 5 (11:11):
Like I listened back, like, damn, she really killed It's crazy.
Speaker 2 (11:16):
Like and y'all he told me to do it. Yeah,
he's one of my best friends.
Speaker 5 (11:18):
Like, he told me to do it. He's like, yo,
he's like, I need you to do what you do.
He's I'm not telling He's like, but just do what
you do. Once again, somebody calling me telling me to rap,
you know, and yeah.
Speaker 4 (11:29):
But do you think it's people want that, and then
when you serve it up and you give it to them,
it's like, I don't know we can take that from
I don't know what they want. The consumers don't know
what they want.
Speaker 2 (11:37):
That's all. You just gotta do what you want to do.
At the end of the day.
Speaker 4 (11:39):
You know what I mean.
Speaker 5 (11:40):
And that's what I'm learning, Like, I just do what
I want to do when I feel like it. And
I got my core team, my family, and he was like, yeo,
it's time I'm rapping.
Speaker 1 (11:48):
I did it feel like people celebrate your imagination more
than your boss? Oh?
Speaker 2 (11:54):
Yes, definitely, Yes, that's that's good. Definitely.
Speaker 4 (11:57):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (11:58):
Like I be wanting to die real bad, real fast.
It's like like people beginning my nerves. I'm like, you know,
like you don't appreciate me. I be wanting to die
like like like ten hours. But that's how I'm very
I want to sleep. I want them to really think
like damn she passed away, like damn.
Speaker 1 (12:12):
My gods.
Speaker 4 (12:15):
Next because you feel like they appreciation it, was like
you want to Yeah, yeah, I'm not playing. So what
does your creative process look like? If you hate doing
it so much? How do you even get in the
bag where you're like, all right, let me do this
or is it just that easy way that ship just.
Speaker 2 (12:35):
Come off the cuff and yeah, I just gotta I
got different characters.
Speaker 4 (12:40):
Yeah, So who are you when you made wax Museum?
Speaker 2 (12:45):
I was Tee Diesel te Dizel.
Speaker 5 (12:47):
Yeah, on a block, rapping for trying to impress the guys,
the old heads, the old g Yeah, you started, yep
back where I started, back to my roots, and it
felt good because like, you know, you do something so
long and then like you become comfortable with it and
it doesn't it doesn't do anything for you. You know,
it doesn't ignite you, like it's just like whatever. And
then so when I went back and listened to the records, like,
(13:08):
I'm not gonna lie.
Speaker 2 (13:09):
Even to this day, I don't. I haven't even listened to.
Speaker 5 (13:12):
My project, like all the way through. Yeah, because it's
like it's cool, but like I just move on. I
move on really fast.
Speaker 1 (13:18):
I mean a whack job that it starts to slow down.
Speaker 2 (13:21):
Yeah, And I followed the beat.
Speaker 1 (13:22):
Yeah. When I heard the beat, thought I was having
a stroke.
Speaker 5 (13:25):
Just no listen and it's crazy, right, Like I said.
When I was listening to the beat, I'm like, wait,
he slowed Wait, what's going on with the beat? And
I was like, oh, that's intentional. And I was like,
all right, I'm gonna just slow motion.
Speaker 1 (13:35):
You can't. That's how she is.
Speaker 4 (13:38):
Yeah, you never know.
Speaker 1 (13:40):
It was dope. But once I realized you were doing
it on purpose when I was driving and I'm take
a deep breath.
Speaker 2 (13:48):
No, no, yeah, and messes with your head.
Speaker 4 (13:50):
It does, it does?
Speaker 1 (13:51):
It does?
Speaker 2 (13:51):
Yeah, it does.
Speaker 4 (13:52):
So you haven't listened to the whole album back?
Speaker 2 (13:54):
No, No, really skips like I gotta like actually learn
it I make. So that's nothing. I really work hard.
Speaker 4 (13:59):
I work.
Speaker 5 (13:59):
I make so much music, Like I record all the time.
So it's like you gotta do karaoke with your own shit. Yes, crazy,
And then like I'm listening back and I'm like, damn,
I don't a lot of times.
Speaker 2 (14:11):
I love my mistakes.
Speaker 5 (14:12):
I learned to love my mistakes, like most most of
like my you know, most popular records, Like it's like
mistakes or like and then I just keep that, just
keep it like literally, well like it.
Speaker 2 (14:22):
Was one record it's called Clones. He he sneezed, and
I was like, let's keep that.
Speaker 5 (14:26):
And that was his you know, he sneeze always in
the he's sitting on my lap while he recorded me
or whatever, like we just in a little in the
tramp house or whatever, like getting it and I'm like,
let's keep that or I'm I it just I don't know.
I just have fun and I never read anything.
Speaker 2 (14:38):
Like, I just I just live like a kid.
Speaker 4 (14:40):
Have you listened to Sirens back?
Speaker 2 (14:42):
Yeah, sirens is hard. Sirens is hard. Yeah, sirens hard.
Speaker 3 (14:46):
Of the producers was so so excited that you shot
one of your videos in the hood. She was like, Yo,
nobody goes to that part of the hood and she
went there shot a video. Don't know, I'm not fing filly,
so that's your.
Speaker 2 (14:54):
Yeah, I'm from like every hood.
Speaker 5 (14:56):
I'm like the only person that's from like everywhere, Like
Meek is like he from like from North End South,
but I'm from like I lived everywhere in the city.
I was getting passed around, Dan, get you off the door.
Speaker 1 (15:10):
Not North What was that from?
Speaker 4 (15:13):
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (15:14):
People respect uptown.
Speaker 2 (15:16):
Yeah, uptown Korea. They little bougie, but yeah we like uptown.
Speaker 4 (15:19):
Yeah she thinks she is. But there later on what
you saying the one in Kensington? What video was it?
Speaker 1 (15:28):
No?
Speaker 5 (15:29):
That was they mixed it up six See we we
shot like two days and then we just mixed up
all the footage like yeah, wegg job was like in.
Speaker 2 (15:36):
A Yeah that was that wasn't Kinton Cousinton was.
Speaker 1 (15:40):
That was?
Speaker 2 (15:40):
Like it was more clips of was that wax.
Speaker 1 (15:43):
Paper really said she wants you to blow up this door.
Just don't end up. Like yeah she said that.
Speaker 5 (15:51):
Damn she said don't because like, all right, so you know,
I'm a young girl coming up and a male dominated industry.
So I'm telling her mom, I met this guy, I
met this person or whatever, and she like weary, you know,
she like hold on, you know, as a mom should be.
And they better not be playing ass as one mom
would say to me. Yeah, yeah, you know, I was
so scared of my mom, so like I always told
(16:12):
her the truth. Like I never kept anything away from
my mom because I was like, she gonna find out anyway.
Speaker 2 (16:16):
Somebody as want to tell her.
Speaker 4 (16:17):
Yeah, ain't nobody nobody playing.
Speaker 2 (16:21):
No, But I mean, you know she would know. She
would like to smell it.
Speaker 4 (16:26):
She would somebody, she would know. Dang, she she got
a way of finding that.
Speaker 1 (16:31):
She just know what sounds different.
Speaker 4 (16:39):
Yeah, he said it out here, he said it. So
what's your mental like popping back out this time?
Speaker 1 (16:44):
Right?
Speaker 4 (16:44):
Because I watched the interview you did when the Desk,
I think it was like two years ago, and you
were talking about how you went through some real like
deep dark things in your personal life that almost made
you in real life like not want to be here anymore. Yeah,
and it was hard balancing the industry and the real
life part of it.
Speaker 5 (16:59):
Like I actually want to be here, like I wouldn't
have showed I wouldn't have shown up about it. I
want to be here, I actually do. Yeah, I want
to be here today. Yeah, I'm having a good time.
I'm having fun and I'm just like I'm really popping
my ship this time, Like I don't care. I don't
care what nobody thinks, nobody said, because it's like if
you don't. Sometimes, you know, you play small, you play
you walk light and everything, and then like people treat
you that way, and then you start to feel that way.
Speaker 4 (17:18):
And then it's just like a disaster, you know.
Speaker 5 (17:21):
Yeah, I'm like no, I just like I'm walking around
my head down. It's like, nah, let me, you know,
adjust my my posture, and you know what I mean,
because people will treat you how you treat yourself.
Speaker 1 (17:32):
I was going to ask you if Tierra Whack the
artist becoming more like Tierra Whacked the person, but I'm
slowly realizing they are the same.
Speaker 2 (17:38):
Yeah, definitely, definitely you'll be cooking I'm just.
Speaker 1 (17:44):
So there's no character with you, because sometimes people create
this character to protect the real them. But yeah, this
is who you are.
Speaker 2 (17:52):
That's who I am.
Speaker 4 (17:54):
Do you have anybody that you would like to work
with any other?
Speaker 1 (17:57):
Uh?
Speaker 4 (17:57):
Because listening to the album, I was like, I wonder
if she ever thought about working with Rhapsody.
Speaker 5 (18:04):
Yeah, no, no, I just talked to Rhapsody. It was
like yesterday I called her and we were talking behind
a lot of people's Yeah. Yeah, we was talking about
a lot of people.
Speaker 1 (18:14):
I know.
Speaker 2 (18:17):
No, but we said, like we got to get in.
Speaker 5 (18:18):
You know, she's doing her roll out to and everything too,
but we want to get in because like we're actually friends,
but we got to like make music.
Speaker 2 (18:24):
But that's what I like too.
Speaker 5 (18:25):
Like you know when I when I first was coming up,
everybody was just throwing stuff at me, and I'm like, yo,
I want to I.
Speaker 2 (18:29):
Like to connect with people, you know, like it's not
but I know it's business. So I had to learn it.
Speaker 5 (18:33):
Just like sometimes you just got like when be called,
I'm gonna just send that thing. I ain't even going yeah,
like you know, I don't need much of it. I
send it back to you.
Speaker 2 (18:40):
Yeah, thank you.
Speaker 4 (18:40):
Thank you.
Speaker 2 (18:41):
But yeah, so No Rhapsody is actually a friend, a
good friend.
Speaker 1 (18:44):
Do you think that people might have stopped calling because
you were saying no so much like like ain't gonna
do it, she ain't gonna do it. Maybe so you
can get a rap snob reputation for sure.
Speaker 4 (18:56):
Yeah, but it's like it could just be preferenced though,
like what's wrong with the press?
Speaker 2 (18:59):
I know, And that's the thing I'm not saying no.
Speaker 5 (19:00):
I'm like, just give me another option, because I you know,
like and I'll listen for you know, to a record
for a few days. Sometimes it's you know, it's automatic,
like you might hear like, well I'm jump right on this,
and sometimes the beat is so crazy you don't even know.
Speaker 4 (19:10):
What to do.
Speaker 2 (19:12):
You could do it this way, you could do it,
you know, like you just got to figure it out.
Speaker 5 (19:16):
But yeah, I just people everybody's so sensitive, so emotional.
It's not personal, like, guys, I want to I want
to do this. I want to be a part of it.
Every almost everything everybody sends me. I want to find
a way to make it work. But if it doesn't
work for me, I have to be real.
Speaker 4 (19:29):
Have you happen somebody ever sent you something you said
you didn't want to do it, but when it came out,
he was like, damn no, no, I couldn't.
Speaker 2 (19:35):
You know, I'm not gonna lie.
Speaker 4 (19:38):
I'm never wrong. Gotcha, Yeah, gotcha?
Speaker 1 (19:41):
With that moment that to be to you award, that
had to be a validation.
Speaker 5 (19:47):
We had to meet Johnny, Johnny right here, my manager.
We had to fight for that role, for the position.
Speaker 2 (19:55):
We had to fight. Yes we did.
Speaker 4 (19:56):
I thought maybe you got plugged in because Joe Scott
and I know she didn't. She couldn't make no.
Speaker 1 (20:00):
I thought it was hand selected. It seemed like everybody
up there to me.
Speaker 4 (20:06):
Made a lot of sense. But I was surprised to
see them give you.
Speaker 1 (20:09):
Then you had to fight to be in the La Tierra.
Speaker 2 (20:12):
I was swinging like.
Speaker 4 (20:14):
I was like.
Speaker 2 (20:16):
Like I was fighting to get in there.
Speaker 4 (20:18):
So talk about it. So what was the journey to
this stage? So all right?
Speaker 2 (20:21):
I think it was like early June.
Speaker 5 (20:23):
I saw BT post that they were doing the Laurence
Hill Tribute Miss Hill Tribute, and I sent it to
Johnny and I put the rolling eyes. I was like,
can we get this like some kind of way? Because
I just know, like it's it gets tricky. I'm like,
but I need to be a part of this, and
he just like, you know, double taped.
Speaker 4 (20:41):
They just hearded it.
Speaker 2 (20:41):
I'm like, all right, he's going to try to figure
it out.
Speaker 5 (20:44):
And but I think I asked him once and he
was like he didn't really he didn't seem confident, and
I'm like, and I don't have like a direct direct
line to Miss Hill. I mean, you know, we got
ways to get but I don't have like her direct line.
So yeah, waited, waited, and then Johnny called me. How
early was that like a few days before maybe dang
a week before, and he was like, I'm calling you
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to tell you first. He was like, you're doing Miss
Hill's tribute and I just busted out into tears. Yoa's
crazy because I remember having her CD and being like,
if she can do it, then I can do it.
And I was going to, you know, going around with
so much trying to find an in house engineer, somebody
who I can build with, you know, create my sound,
and so many people told me like you got to
(21:29):
either rap or sing.
Speaker 2 (21:30):
You can't do both.
Speaker 5 (21:31):
And I'm like, but Lauren Hill did it, and they're like, yeah, no,
that's once in a lifetime, like it's no, and just
to be able to have this full circle moment, I said, Johnny,
what song do I have? I said, I'm good, but
I know every record, but I you know, just as
long as they don't give me fuji Li because that's
the one, I'll just let Lauren rep by herself. I said,
you got that one because she's spitting this. It's like
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tongue twisters.
Speaker 2 (21:53):
They gave me fuuji Li. I was hissed.
Speaker 5 (21:57):
I was like, no, because I know every other song,
but no Fujila was hard, like that was one of
the hardest versus I.
Speaker 1 (22:04):
Yeah, like yeah, I was like, it's just crazy. You
had to fight for it because it seemed like everybody
that was part of that tribute literally was truede off.
Lauren Tree was supposed to be there, You Rhapsody hymn.
They all make so much sense.
Speaker 5 (22:18):
Oh, miss Hill, Yes, that's what you said, right. Our team, Yeah,
our team reached out and I think she didn't know
like what was happening at first.
Speaker 2 (22:26):
She was like I'm not sure.
Speaker 5 (22:27):
I don't have too much to do with it, but
you know, yeah, I'll try to fight to get her
on there. Yeah, so damn yeah, yes, we talked like briefly,
briefly yeah, but no, like I said, I literally I
was eating, sleeping, waking up, like I had to memorize
that rap because I was the one I didn't know.
That's you know how you go to a concert and
like you know your rep, you hype, you hYP hype,
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but that's the one. I just I'll be quiet. I'd
be like yea, yeah, whoosy, like it's like what girl,
you own ands and battle boles like high nos and
like I'm like what But I remember though, I taped
into when I first started writing, and I was trying
to write just like her, So my old raps sound
more like her, you know what I mean. But it
was just like a blast from the past.
Speaker 4 (23:09):
I'm like, oh, shoot, how long is to keep learning?
Speaker 2 (23:12):
We get it down the week?
Speaker 1 (23:14):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (23:14):
Week?
Speaker 2 (23:18):
Yeah right right.
Speaker 4 (23:22):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (23:23):
In saloons, Salon, Yeah, in Saloons we drink boons, So
I had to look up saloons because I don't drink
and and then boons is just a drink and wine.
Yet in saloons we drink boons and battle boons till
high till high noon. Bus raptuns on flat spoons, take
no shorts like poom pooms, see who Cheese pop Cool
Cheese for Gucciese and Luci for me and my Missubi.
She eating sushi bumping Fooji's hey, hey, hey, try to
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take the crew, but we don't play place. They say say,
it's just like, what are you about?
Speaker 4 (23:48):
Why would you.
Speaker 1 (23:49):
Buy like.
Speaker 4 (23:51):
God's alignment and time? Because I don't who.
Speaker 5 (23:54):
And then we were hearing Ever Reheard, so like yeah,
I had that song, but I passed it off. It
was too and I'm like, so it's like I fight
to get in, but it's like they're all gonna get
me the hardest, the heaviest, little like it's crazy. That's
how everything's always hard for me.
Speaker 4 (24:07):
Like a journey has been that way because when I
remember when I first moved to La, I would see
you all over like billboards had different brands and ads
you were doing, and I was like, okay, she's right there,
like yes, I know, and then I don't know what happened,
but you're always like boom, she got it because the
time is there. But it's like you always got to
fight a little bit differently drugs yo, she what the hell,
(24:28):
what's wrong with you?
Speaker 5 (24:31):
I was gonna Philly come out. QUI don't let know,
it's cool, it's cool. I'm surprised that I like shoving me.
I didn't think I was gonna like him.
Speaker 1 (24:38):
Got a little bit of time.
Speaker 4 (24:40):
No, No, I do.
Speaker 5 (24:40):
I like people like him, and people like him usually
like me. Y. Yeah, no, it should have been drugs.
It should have been drugs, but it wasn't drugs. I
never I've never done a drug in my life. Don't
drink any alcohol either. But no, I think it just
was trying to balance out being a public figure.
Speaker 2 (24:59):
Naturally.
Speaker 5 (24:59):
I am a chill person, like I don't care for
too much attention, like you know, like I'm introverted, like
for the most part I am. So it's like I
don't require a lot, but my job, yeah that's got
it requires that. So it's like turning it on and off.
It's like it's crazy. So I was just trying to
balance it and it was a lot for me, and
(25:20):
I just realized, I said, everybody like everybody fake fake
as hell?
Speaker 1 (25:24):
Right?
Speaker 2 (25:24):
Fake?
Speaker 1 (25:25):
You think artists burned out from making music, from from
constantly having to sell themselves in this business?
Speaker 5 (25:32):
Yeah, like I never had. I never sold my body before.
Like it's like I'm trying to I never sold my body, right,
and I don't know where I'm going with this. I
was like, okay, that's what I meant, Lawrence, you got
(25:54):
I would win more if I chose to put less
on it.
Speaker 1 (25:56):
That was just.
Speaker 4 (25:59):
Yo.
Speaker 2 (25:59):
I I never.
Speaker 4 (26:04):
We're not gonna badge prostitution because no, it's not.
Speaker 5 (26:06):
It's like just my body, like I don't expose myself,
like yeah, like I don't even just having to sell
you that would help, Like I keep I'm thinking about
getting a BBL, but like.
Speaker 4 (26:14):
No, think again, don't do you know, because you don't
need to do that. Ship some more people are listening.
Speaker 1 (26:20):
No, what I mean just even having to sell yourself
as a dope ass artist like talent, I don't.
Speaker 2 (26:25):
Have to sell it though, I don't have to sell it.
Speaker 4 (26:26):
Yeah, I don't gotta sell it.
Speaker 2 (26:28):
I just gotta do it.
Speaker 1 (26:28):
Show up and like, no, it's somebody job to sell it.
Speaker 4 (26:32):
My job selling it.
Speaker 2 (26:33):
Yeah, the team they sell it, y'all gonn sell me.
Speaker 4 (26:35):
That's why you're switching them out and stuff and trying
to figure out what's the best that is selling.
Speaker 2 (26:38):
Yeah, yeah, what's the next question. Yeah, do you like No,
I hate interviews.
Speaker 4 (26:51):
Get nervous. I never want to talk to these.
Speaker 2 (26:53):
It's nervous and it's a mixture.
Speaker 4 (26:56):
Yeah, like I don't really like talking to people I
don't know. Yeah, answering the same ship over, yes, before
to one two years ago? When the last one I
saw it was seven years ago or something like that.
I thought you just didn't like divulge a lot when
you don't have a lot to talk about. Yeah.
Speaker 5 (27:10):
A lot of people talk when they shouldn't speak, Like
it's like, why are you shut up? I'm more of
a listener an observer. Yeah, and then you I'll go
back and then you'll hear something that you said and
the record or so you know, like I I'm a sponge.
Speaker 4 (27:23):
So is the list long for people asking you to
write for them?
Speaker 2 (27:27):
No, it's not that long.
Speaker 4 (27:29):
No more because you say no.
Speaker 1 (27:30):
Or is it no?
Speaker 4 (27:31):
I never say no.
Speaker 5 (27:33):
Earlier I did say just cut that out because I
did say but so that made me look like exactly, Yeah,
I mean I did a few things for a few people.
Speaker 2 (27:45):
Yeah, okay, yeah, keep the lights on.
Speaker 1 (27:48):
When you wrote the record Flowers, why did you need
to tell yourself that, Yo.
Speaker 2 (27:53):
You know what's crazy? I hate flowers?
Speaker 4 (27:55):
What I love that song?
Speaker 6 (27:57):
Why?
Speaker 2 (27:58):
No, no, not the song.
Speaker 5 (27:59):
I just hate flowers. Well, first of all, I'm allergic
to everything. Yeah, I'm like yeah, like brass, like the environment.
Speaker 4 (28:06):
Like I just live in a.
Speaker 2 (28:09):
Yeah yeah, so like I'll see some pretty flowers.
Speaker 5 (28:13):
And then like my eyes are itching. His eye, So
it kind of just made me like not really care
for him over the years. But no, you know, speaking
of the record though, Yeah, I just I need the praise.
I want it, you know, like I work my ass off,
I earned, I earned everything that I have, and I
want more.
Speaker 4 (28:30):
I deserve more.
Speaker 5 (28:31):
And if you, like I said, if you don't speak
out for yourself and advocate for yourself, then nobody will.
Speaker 2 (28:35):
So yeah, I just I'm on it.
Speaker 4 (28:37):
What does what does the ideal uh career look like?
For tear Wet Because you're in your own lane and things,
So what are your here's when I'm lit my goals?
Speaker 5 (28:47):
Yo, I want to have my own sketch show one day. Yeah,
what else do I want? I just want to I
want to continue to just like build up my community
like as far as like and fit like in we
don't have like a real like we have an arts scene,
but like I want to have like a hub, Like
I want to create a hub where, like you know, say,
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like the younger youth, the youth that we have like
a some type of like community centers or something. I
like when I was coming up, we had and it
was a place to go after school and then you know,
whether you're playing sports, you on the computers, you're doing something.
But I just feel like kids they get out of school,
half them not not even going to school. You get
out of school and then you just kind of crash out.
(29:28):
You have no no creative outlets. So I want to
create some type of like hub for like just up
and coming creators, like whether it's performance arts, Uh, you know,
graphic designing, dance, everything, comedy.
Speaker 4 (29:42):
Yeah, all that everything.
Speaker 6 (29:46):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (29:47):
I feel like you gotta like my mom, she made
sure whatever, like I showed a small interest in She's like, here,
let's do it.
Speaker 4 (29:53):
Let's she put me.
Speaker 2 (29:53):
She pushed me, you know, like let's do it. Do everything.
She would tell me to do everything and then just
see what's next to you.
Speaker 1 (29:58):
I like, really quote Ice Pikes to you in a
motivational way, what do you mean on the record, unless
I heard it wrong. You said Wallow told me that
they that I'm the ship they Now.
Speaker 2 (30:10):
I didn't even realize. I was like, I just I
was today years ol. I didn't know that Ice Spice
said that. He said something like that. Yeah he did,
he did.
Speaker 4 (30:16):
He was crazy.
Speaker 1 (30:18):
Yeah, you didn't know.
Speaker 4 (30:20):
I didn't know that.
Speaker 2 (30:22):
Ice pis to She just followed me on Instagram like
two days ago.
Speaker 1 (30:25):
That's what. Yeah, So Wallow really just said that you
want Yeah, you know, he like you know, you.
Speaker 4 (30:29):
Know how he is.
Speaker 2 (30:30):
Yeah, he talking quotes crazy around.
Speaker 4 (30:35):
Crazy.
Speaker 1 (30:36):
Now you you worked with Beyonce. Is it true that
you met her at an ice a roller skating party.
Speaker 4 (30:40):
I didn't meet her.
Speaker 2 (30:41):
I didn't meet her. I seen her and she saw
me see her.
Speaker 5 (30:45):
I kept a distance, yeah, because it's like, you know
you Beyonce, So I'm not gonna be like, you know,
like I was chilling.
Speaker 1 (30:50):
You know.
Speaker 2 (30:50):
It was a Genemo one a skating party.
Speaker 1 (30:52):
And I just looked at each other.
Speaker 2 (30:54):
She looked at she's I was looking at her, and
she saw me. I said, she saw me see her.
Speaker 1 (30:57):
So it was just like, you know, introduce yourself.
Speaker 2 (30:59):
He was in because it's just like she chilling, she
skating by herself.
Speaker 4 (31:02):
You're not gonna go bother Beyonce. I definitely feel you.
I would not do that. It was just her.
Speaker 2 (31:08):
She was glowing, just on the floor by herself.
Speaker 5 (31:09):
It felt like she was like, yeah, she's just like
jealous and she was smiling like I'm Beyonce, you know,
like that's how you know.
Speaker 2 (31:17):
So you just don't do too much.
Speaker 1 (31:18):
You just to she reached out to you after that.
Speaker 2 (31:21):
Yeah, it was whispers like, yo, the bee is looking
for you.
Speaker 4 (31:26):
Don't ever come up to me talking about the be
is looking for you.
Speaker 2 (31:29):
Yeah, there was a lot of buzz.
Speaker 1 (31:34):
Then what happened that?
Speaker 4 (31:35):
Like you're like, okay, did you even believe it?
Speaker 2 (31:37):
I didn't believe it because like what do you mean?
And why can't like somebody just like yeah, comes think
I told you, Yeah you did it, you did it?
Speaker 1 (31:46):
So what happened?
Speaker 5 (31:51):
No, we gotta we got a text or call or
something from a reliable source and yeah, they sent the
record and it was like it is do it like
two days and I sent it back the same day
and then.
Speaker 1 (32:03):
That was it.
Speaker 5 (32:04):
But the verse happened so quickly that I thought it
was trash. It's like there's no way and there's no
way it came that easy like we did. The verse
happened so fast, not even like probably an hour.
Speaker 4 (32:15):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (32:16):
Yeah, but you know how you get to those moments
and you're like, like you making sure you it's not
on your eyes, like let me say, let me make
sure but show.
Speaker 1 (32:26):
Yeah, they ain't never had to write a sixteen.
Speaker 4 (32:31):
Yeah, I can imagine it though, or you have those
moments where you're like, dang, this really like happening. It's
really happening. Yeah, but she wanted you to show up
and be you when you did that. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (32:41):
And I was supposed to be on a third verse,
but they put she put me first, so that was cool.
Speaker 1 (32:44):
And then she before she performed the song when she
was on tour.
Speaker 2 (32:46):
Right, Yeah, she did like the remix, the Queen's Remix.
Speaker 1 (32:49):
And how did that feel? Did you see it? Did
you go to tour watch it?
Speaker 2 (32:51):
No?
Speaker 4 (32:51):
I didn't go.
Speaker 1 (32:53):
At the concert.
Speaker 2 (32:54):
No, she was saying my name every night.
Speaker 4 (32:55):
That was so fire.
Speaker 1 (32:57):
You didn't go one time invited.
Speaker 2 (33:00):
I didn't get invited, So I was like I'm gonna
just you know.
Speaker 1 (33:02):
Too, Yeah, steak, Yeah, you definitely always move at your
own pace. Has patients cost you opportunities? Has it protected
your artistry?
Speaker 4 (33:11):
Now?
Speaker 2 (33:11):
I think protected? Yeah, I definitely think protected.
Speaker 5 (33:16):
Because like at the end of the day, I'm going
to do like you said, I don't regret anything, Like
somebody sent me a booty record when it come out
of still booty, like you know, that's what it is.
So I always trust, trust my intuition and my gut,
and I haven't been wrong yet. So yeah, and that's
important too, like I said, just trusting yourself and not
being you know, yeah way you know, but yeah, because
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you get in these rooms and then it's like you're like, wait,
do I belong here?
Speaker 6 (33:42):
Hell?
Speaker 4 (33:43):
Yeah, I belong here, you know. So yeah, Now you.
Speaker 1 (33:46):
Wanted to record in Tokyo. I know, way back you
recorded some some records Tokyo. Why Tokyo of all.
Speaker 5 (33:50):
Places Japan is just fired a fashion, the art scene,
just everything it feels. I think I went The first
time I went was like twenty nineteen, twenty eighteen, and
they were wearing the mask. They were like like I
would eat off the ground in Tokyo. It's so yeah,
they don't play.
Speaker 1 (34:07):
So it's what inspiration does Tokyo give?
Speaker 2 (34:08):
It?
Speaker 1 (34:08):
Just the fashion and all that.
Speaker 2 (34:10):
Yeah, just everything I listened in me not the music
was different.
Speaker 4 (34:16):
Your creative processing anyway.
Speaker 2 (34:19):
Yeah, it's the future. It feels like the future.
Speaker 4 (34:21):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (34:22):
And then that's the first time I got my my
My cheeks were warmed and my ass was wet at
the same time.
Speaker 4 (34:26):
It was it was smelled that ship.
Speaker 5 (34:31):
For that.
Speaker 1 (34:32):
See what you can.
Speaker 4 (34:34):
You see what she does?
Speaker 1 (34:37):
She called me?
Speaker 4 (34:38):
She did.
Speaker 1 (34:40):
If people still only call you a rap?
Speaker 2 (34:42):
Is he still talking about?
Speaker 4 (34:44):
Okay, I'm ready to make contact. Now we were saying.
Speaker 1 (34:48):
People still only call you a rapper? Do you feel misunderstood?
Speaker 4 (34:54):
Okay?
Speaker 5 (34:54):
So I went to I think it was a w
NBA game and they put me on a jumble try
and they put rapper and I didn't like that.
Speaker 2 (35:00):
I want artists, entertainer, you know what I mean?
Speaker 1 (35:03):
Yeah, so visual artists.
Speaker 2 (35:06):
Yeah, you can keep you going if you want. Yeah,
thinking more stuff? Are you thinking more things to say?
Speaker 1 (35:13):
I think I was like visual artists, okay, creative director, storytellers,
those singers should definitely be up there, or maybe just
hybrid maybe should be Tierra Wack.
Speaker 4 (35:25):
Definitely that's hard, you know what I mean?
Speaker 1 (35:27):
They seem like people like hybrid or what hybrid?
Speaker 4 (35:30):
Yeah, did you come up listening to the Missy? Yes,
that's exactly your reminded me.
Speaker 2 (35:34):
Yes, I love Missy, Missy so farre so far.
Speaker 1 (35:37):
Yeah, you remind me of miss but with better bars.
Speaker 2 (35:40):
Yeah for sure. So she you know, like just the
reps I came from, like a rapping.
Speaker 4 (35:44):
You know, she's different, the way she changed her flows
up and anything. But miss ain't never to take it
off to sell it. So don't you ever take it
off or go get a B B L none of
that ship she was to talking though, Yeah, she's a
talking but she ain't never seen Missy Lizzo, Lizzo win
it up, showing all about it. You know how Liza
would show a titty in a minute. I'm talking about Missy.
(36:07):
Sh ain't never did that to say we.
Speaker 2 (36:10):
Love everybody, Yeah no, no, we doody.
Speaker 4 (36:12):
But I'm just saying certain women do certain things.
Speaker 5 (36:14):
Yeah, it's not the Lizzo too, Crazy Verse Crazy Verse,
that's one of my favorites, or her last project.
Speaker 1 (36:20):
Yeah. Yeah, when you think of Missy, when you think
of Andre, when you think of Tyler, like all of
those people that folks said were weird, but they became legendary.
What do you think today's artists are too afraid to try?
Speaker 5 (36:33):
It's being themselves, simply being themselves. Like you know, I
hate when people say only you could do that, and no,
you could do it too. You're just you're just afraid too.
He talked like that all de time, what only you
could do that?
Speaker 4 (36:42):
No, I'll be like, no, that's like you as a
man can say and do those things. And he'd be like,
that's not true. You can do it. You just don't.
Speaker 1 (36:47):
You're scared.
Speaker 2 (36:50):
You're scared.
Speaker 4 (36:52):
Damn M, I don't be scared. Are you scared?
Speaker 1 (36:58):
I'm not scared.
Speaker 4 (37:00):
I saw Yeah, Missy got the Culture Creators on it her. Yeah,
the BT Awards week about time, right, and yeah she
cried during her acceptance. You know, we don't really see
her like talk much national. Yeah, but she's talking about
how like they tore her. She was crazy when she
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put the bag on and did the video and did
other things and now everything is like flip for her fire.
But I'm sure sometimes like that makes you feel a
bit alone. When yes, people don't see the vision, you
know it's yours? Yes, how do you do this?
Speaker 5 (37:32):
I keep talking about the gut that intuition, like it's
never been wrong, So like I don't care what nobody
has to say.
Speaker 2 (37:38):
I'm going with this.
Speaker 4 (37:39):
This is what I feel.
Speaker 5 (37:40):
We have to do this right now in this moment.
Sometimes I'm like a little too impulsive, but like it
always works in my favor.
Speaker 4 (37:48):
Mm hmm.
Speaker 1 (37:49):
What's something you've learned about loneliness after?
Speaker 4 (37:54):
I love it.
Speaker 2 (37:55):
The loneliness is so loud, but I love it though
I need it.
Speaker 4 (37:58):
I need it.
Speaker 2 (37:58):
You have to be comfortable with being alone.
Speaker 5 (38:01):
Most people aren't a lot of When I was like
meeting a lot of like artists and everything, like they
always had so many people.
Speaker 4 (38:07):
I'm just like, how do you like?
Speaker 2 (38:08):
This is crazy?
Speaker 5 (38:09):
You can't think for yourself, you can't think by yourself.
Like it's just I need to be alone. I told
you all, Like I'm an introvert. I love being alone.
Speaker 1 (38:16):
What artists in the industry gets you, like gets your
sense of humor that you really connect with?
Speaker 2 (38:21):
Who gets me? YACHTI for sure, little yachty? Uh Erica Erica?
Speaker 4 (38:28):
Who else?
Speaker 2 (38:29):
Was she right up there too?
Speaker 4 (38:29):
That's crazy?
Speaker 2 (38:30):
I didn't see that until I said it.
Speaker 4 (38:32):
Who else?
Speaker 2 (38:33):
Who else? Who else?
Speaker 5 (38:34):
Janelle Money, Jill Scott. Of course, Jill didn't get it
at first. She thought I was distinger on TikTok, but
she she got it now because I did the Golden
Golden cover and I was singing, singing crazy. I was
like mocking her your own lyrics to it, basically, No,
I was singing obnoxiously.
Speaker 4 (38:52):
About like the song life lyrics.
Speaker 2 (38:57):
This is this is the golden lyrics.
Speaker 5 (39:03):
You got you got like yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, no,
uh pretty much everybody gets it now. And then I
started streaming for a little bit too, so like people
like y she does she's crazy. She don't take thank you,
thank you.
Speaker 4 (39:21):
Yeah, yeah, I'm surprised to see you on stream though. Yeah,
I didn't want to do different people.
Speaker 5 (39:26):
I didn't want to do that for a long time either,
because it felt forced, like the cameras on be funny, that's.
Speaker 4 (39:32):
Crazy to me.
Speaker 1 (39:33):
Not if you're naturally funny. You're naturally funny and quick,
thank you crazy. Morgan said you got to teach people comedy,
but but I can't teach you how to be funny.
Speaker 5 (39:42):
He didn't say that I can teach you comedy, but
I can't teach you how to be fun He got
a sidepart don't.
Speaker 2 (39:45):
I hate that sidepart.
Speaker 4 (39:46):
I can't lie. I hate it.
Speaker 2 (39:48):
It irritates me so bad. Yeah, it's about the part.
Speaker 1 (40:00):
What's the biggest misconception people have about introverted offs?
Speaker 2 (40:04):
Mmm?
Speaker 5 (40:07):
Just because I appear to not be doesn't mean I'm
like I'm not, you know, Like I know I come
and like hey, but honestly, I'm a scared little girl
like all the time, Like I'm like, all right, when
is this gonna be over?
Speaker 2 (40:19):
You know, I'm always I'm always ready for everything to
be over.
Speaker 5 (40:23):
Yeah, your words something, You're no, I'm having fun though
when I thought about.
Speaker 1 (40:29):
It, don't believe you. We're in here trying to do
our jobs, and you know, have some confidence I'm not
getting because you're ready to go and we think that
you're having a good time, but you're really not.
Speaker 2 (40:39):
I'm grateful to be here, but it's just taking a
long time to get done.
Speaker 4 (40:43):
Yeah, no, I feel you. It's not. Is there something how? No?
Speaker 1 (40:47):
No listen, no, no, no wait, that's like a double
album for you.
Speaker 4 (40:50):
Yeah, you just so bad?
Speaker 2 (40:57):
No, no, no listen.
Speaker 5 (40:57):
So when I went down the line of people, I
was like, wait, they all like me, so this should
be a good interview A.
Speaker 4 (41:02):
Yeah, we all like you.
Speaker 2 (41:04):
I wasn't sure about you that you're the only one
that was likely know about envy. But no, no, it's
all good energy. I'm having fun though, Like this is
like a conversation you had.
Speaker 4 (41:13):
To see with people before that don't like you, like
you've done that. I don't.
Speaker 2 (41:16):
I don't like them.
Speaker 1 (41:17):
I was going to say, she prayed, she already told
you you want to leave.
Speaker 2 (41:21):
No, it's fine, way, y'all talk a little bit more talk.
Speaker 1 (41:26):
They said, you want the wrap before you leave?
Speaker 4 (41:27):
Oh yeah, please, y'all got to pay me. We got
some cheese steaks. This girl.
Speaker 2 (41:37):
Wait, it was something y'all didn't ask me. No, y'all,
I'm going to tell you job. Y'all me to get out.
Speaker 4 (41:43):
You said you only talk when the music is out.
The music is here, Yeah, the music is out. Listen.
Speaker 5 (41:47):
I'm I'm really proud of When we skipped over this,
we were talking about me listening to my music. I'll
listen to the records like here and there, but when
I when I actually go back, I'm like, yo.
Speaker 2 (41:59):
A lot of it was like mistakes.
Speaker 5 (42:00):
I didn't even mean I got like triple quadruple like
times on that and I'm like, I'm really I was like, yo,
I'm really hot.
Speaker 4 (42:07):
Like that's so, is it like an out of body
experience because it's like you go back and be like, damn,
I ain't need know you ever like you ever.
Speaker 5 (42:15):
Well, I don't know if y'all do this, but since
I make music, I write music, I'll hear a song
and I wish that I wrote it because it's so good.
But like I'm like, damn, you wrote that, like you
get it girl, Like that's like you really better.
Speaker 4 (42:26):
Than you think you are.
Speaker 2 (42:27):
Good bars yeah, yeah, good good bars. Yeah damn. They
really thought it was Lauren. That's great.
Speaker 4 (42:34):
No, that's when I heard it. I caught it and
I was like, it's no way, like no, I caught
what you was doing, what I was doing with the
latest like Lauren, like Lauren Hill being late and the
latest with I can't believe he didn't think of that,
Like you can't even think about the word late and
not think abouts.
Speaker 1 (42:53):
But I thought over the double dre for Lauren Hill
being late and Lauren the only thing the.
Speaker 4 (42:58):
Only reason why I thought because I was like, well
she from Philly and like where Delaware is really close
and excited about everything that's happened when But then now.
Speaker 2 (43:07):
Y'all don't Delaware, y'all be real hyped like y'all.
Speaker 5 (43:09):
Y'all always think somebody like when you talking to y'all,
but like yeah, like Philly won't be on it like
y'all cool, but like y'all ain't like like like Mona
she from Delaware, like she from Philly, but she' from Delaware.
But she's be clearming Delaware more. I need to talking
about that.
Speaker 4 (43:21):
I told him. He was like she from I'm like, no,
she's from Dela. We claim her.
Speaker 1 (43:25):
You still be in the hood, Like yes, yeah, that's why.
Yeah you gun?
Speaker 2 (43:30):
Oh you did that? That was That was a great transition.
Speaker 1 (43:33):
I was.
Speaker 2 (43:35):
Listen. I was a new carrier, and I had it
on me, guys, an honest mistake.
Speaker 1 (43:42):
A license carrier, yes, a license carried bag.
Speaker 5 (43:44):
Yes, studio late night and then I had the flight
the next morning and I'm running with the same bag.
Speaker 2 (43:49):
I didn't swap out bags. And I'm like, oh man, no,
they didn't tackle me.
Speaker 1 (43:53):
No, it was quick.
Speaker 5 (43:54):
It wasn't even like as soon as I put my
bag down and then it was going through. I was like, damn,
I forgot because I was like, my bag is heavy,
but I'm also caring.
Speaker 4 (44:00):
And other stuff like people and think about it.
Speaker 5 (44:02):
Yeah, and then I went it went through and then
they was like, oh, somebody got her. And then they
pulled me to the side and then we went down
and then the guy commissioner person it was like, yo,
you like the fifties second person that happened to.
Speaker 4 (44:14):
This mom soe.
Speaker 5 (44:15):
I was like, yo, it's a honest mistake. But yes,
I went down to like under the what you about
the airport, But it wasn't nothing. It was in there
for like ten minutes and then.
Speaker 4 (44:25):
So you still made your flight, made my flight.
Speaker 1 (44:27):
Yeah, it was get the jail time. You get to
go back and get your gun later.
Speaker 2 (44:32):
Sure, I don't know. I don't want to talk about
guns anymore.
Speaker 1 (44:36):
Okay, it was a new career. Yeah, like geez, I
want to leave now.
Speaker 4 (44:40):
Yeah, you write this note?
Speaker 1 (44:42):
Yeah, like what crazy? That's what you didn't think we
asked you about?
Speaker 4 (44:45):
No, no, no, I didn't know. Oh do you have
do you have a favorite song on the album?
Speaker 2 (44:53):
Favorite song?
Speaker 5 (44:54):
I think it's Siren Siren? Yeah for sure, yea and
got it? I like, got it, gotta thank you, thank you. Yeah, yo,
you know I want to do thank you.
Speaker 2 (45:01):
I love Brazilian.
Speaker 4 (45:02):
I don't know about the brother that you're talking about
in that song. Isn't that the song where you're talking
about your brother that.
Speaker 5 (45:07):
I talk about my brother like almost every song? Yeah, yeah,
my little brother. He's your real brother that you're talking about. Wait, Brazilian, Wax,
what's the what's the line?
Speaker 4 (45:15):
Because my brother turned his back on me and hurt me,
I can't front got to hand it to you. That's
exactly what you want. You're talking to him about how
he didn't have to cross you. Yeah.
Speaker 5 (45:24):
I got a lot of brothers that did that, Wax figures.
It's just like, Yo, you could have just called me.
You got my number, you know, we could talk it through.
Speaker 4 (45:30):
Tell me what you're feeling.
Speaker 2 (45:31):
Yeah yeah yeah no on that one that wasn't my
uh blood brother.
Speaker 1 (45:36):
But yeah, what about it? Before you cut you off,
you said this you want to do.
Speaker 5 (45:40):
I want to do this voice acting, voice acting. I
want to use use my voice so bad. I don't
want to use my voice anymore, like I want to
change it. I want I want to just speak as me.
Speaker 1 (45:48):
I want to one in mind that you hear no see.
Speaker 5 (45:51):
Okay, so the video game shout to Invincible, that's like
that was awesome, but like they was like, yo, just
like talk like you.
Speaker 4 (45:56):
We don't want you to put but you want to
like animate it? Yeah? Animated? Yeah imagine, let's hear it.
What do you want to lately?
Speaker 2 (46:03):
I've been doing this one and I feel like it's
really really good. And if you guys want to just
like you know, give me some jobs, if you know anybody,
then I mean I really don't know what I want
to do, but I mean if I want to do it,
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then I'm gonna do with that, you know what I mean?
Speaker 4 (46:28):
What's up?
Speaker 2 (46:28):
How you feeling?
Speaker 4 (46:29):
I'm good?
Speaker 1 (46:30):
Okay, she doesn't get you?
Speaker 4 (46:32):
Are ready for that?
Speaker 1 (46:33):
Was?
Speaker 4 (46:34):
That was good? No?
Speaker 2 (46:36):
Okay, it just depends on I feel like if you
give me a task, I can figure it out.
Speaker 1 (46:41):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (46:41):
I want to be challenged in that.
Speaker 1 (46:42):
Way with down syndrome.
Speaker 4 (46:44):
No, thank you?
Speaker 1 (46:45):
That is.
Speaker 4 (46:48):
Crazy?
Speaker 1 (46:48):
Are you crazy?
Speaker 4 (46:50):
There's no studs with downs ship No for they're gonna
go down to That's great.
Speaker 1 (46:57):
Creative using our imaginations here, creative.
Speaker 4 (47:02):
You know what I just thought of?
Speaker 2 (47:04):
Ruben stuttered? What if he was a study the whole time.
Speaker 1 (47:10):
He look like you do, like a big stuff.
Speaker 2 (47:15):
Stuttered undercover study.
Speaker 4 (47:19):
So good.
Speaker 1 (47:20):
This is crazy. This is my last question. What's more
important to you? Tierra making great music?
Speaker 2 (47:25):
Are the first one?
Speaker 1 (47:27):
Okay? I was just going to say, Are people are
people saying that TIERA expanded, you know, beyond hip hop?
Speaker 2 (47:35):
What?
Speaker 1 (47:36):
What beyond what hip hop could look and sound like?
Speaker 2 (47:38):
Ask it again? Could you whisper it to me?
Speaker 1 (47:43):
What's more important to you? People say your.
Speaker 2 (47:45):
Breath is hitting, it's connecting, it's it's connecting. Just say it,
no change it.
Speaker 1 (47:51):
Just go back to the what's more important to you
that people say Tierra Whack made great music or that
she expanded what people believed hip hop could look and
sound like.
Speaker 5 (47:59):
The second one? That's hard, Yeah, breaking barriers. I want
to be a trailblazer. I want to do things that
have never been done before.
Speaker 1 (48:08):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (48:08):
So that means I gotta break a lot of rules.
Mm hmm yeah. I like breaking rules.
Speaker 1 (48:14):
You're a whack. Ladies and gentlemen. What you want to
have that, let's play something what you want to have that?
Speaker 2 (48:18):
Let's go with Brazilian wax.
Speaker 1 (48:19):
I love a good wax. By the way, I bet
you do. He really gets his legs up in the air.
Speaker 4 (48:26):
They talk about it. He gets he gets all.
Speaker 1 (48:32):
About my breath.
Speaker 4 (48:34):
We tell you that ship sting every day. You don't
never believe. Can you give me in what you could
get him in? Oh no, no no did you? He's
an agent he works for.
Speaker 2 (48:44):
Are we still alive?
Speaker 1 (48:44):
Yes, we're trying.
Speaker 4 (48:45):
To before.
Speaker 6 (48:51):
Around Its dear warning from the subway.
Speaker 1 (49:02):
It's the breakfast club in the morning. Hold up every
day awake, click your glass up the breakfast club.
Speaker 2 (49:11):
You don't finish for y'all.
Speaker 1 (49:12):
Dump
I don't know every day. Click yours up the breakfast club.
Speaker 2 (00:05):
You don't finish for y'all.
Speaker 1 (00:06):
Dune morning. Everybody is stej n V. Just hilarious.
Speaker 3 (00:11):
Charlamagne the guy. We are the breakfast club. Lawna ROAs
is here as well.
Speaker 1 (00:15):
We got a special guest in the building, the great
one Yerrowack. Ladies and gentlemen welcome.
Speaker 2 (00:19):
Hey everybody, Good morning, booth, what's up? They should be
the brunch club. It's too early.
Speaker 4 (00:24):
I'm not gonna lie.
Speaker 1 (00:25):
And this is the morning we don't have breakfast, which
is crazy.
Speaker 2 (00:28):
This is a really dinner club for dinner club. I
don't like breakfast.
Speaker 4 (00:32):
Well, we can have brunch.
Speaker 2 (00:33):
I'll be eating like cheese steaks. I roll out of bands.
Speaker 4 (00:35):
Eating cheese steaks, damn in the morning.
Speaker 2 (00:39):
Because like who said, like who said you can't do that.
Speaker 1 (00:42):
I don't understand. People are gonna have to taste of breakfast.
And you're from Philly, so that's like.
Speaker 2 (00:46):
Like every now then, every now and then.
Speaker 1 (00:49):
But like, I don't like gritch and eggs, not every morning,
some turkey sausage.
Speaker 2 (00:54):
It's okay, you want to be bacon, y'all. I realized bacon.
It's like a Philly thing. You beef baking.
Speaker 4 (01:01):
I never even heard of beef baking. You put it
on your cheese steak. No, you can't put I was.
Speaker 1 (01:07):
Just saying, what's the best cheese Stakso nowadays the.
Speaker 5 (01:11):
Best cheesteaks spot I'm gonna go with. I'm gonna say
Stella's Northeast Spellers. Yeah it's it's a few spots. Everybody's
mentioned it, but I'll stick to what I know.
Speaker 4 (01:21):
Okay, yeah, yeah, you don't like isabbs cool?
Speaker 2 (01:25):
If you're down the way, Yeah, I like cool, it's cool.
You thought that was like gonna be throw.
Speaker 4 (01:36):
It's like said it was.
Speaker 2 (01:38):
Though, it's cool, but it ain't.
Speaker 4 (01:39):
So where I gotta go?
Speaker 2 (01:40):
He said, you can go to Stellar's know next time
you take you all right?
Speaker 4 (01:44):
Cool?
Speaker 1 (01:44):
Cool? Yeah you're gonna need security though.
Speaker 2 (01:46):
No.
Speaker 4 (01:48):
No, no, no made me cool? Were we are now?
Speaker 6 (01:51):
Spoke?
Speaker 4 (01:52):
No no no no since me cutting remember when me
cut his head, we became cool cool?
Speaker 1 (01:57):
Went home with the community name.
Speaker 4 (02:01):
That he was talking about, something like from like ten years.
Speaker 1 (02:03):
Okay, you've been.
Speaker 4 (02:06):
Past that were cool?
Speaker 1 (02:07):
Sure? Yeah yeah them, I ain't go. Frontier looked at
you kind of crazy. She was like, we cool.
Speaker 4 (02:14):
She was supposed to be.
Speaker 2 (02:16):
But we ride, we go against each other, but we
ride for each other.
Speaker 1 (02:20):
That's how you supposed to be.
Speaker 4 (02:21):
Yeah, now we that's what that's cool. I don't know
why it's like that. But but you ain't check with him.
You ain't need something like oh yeah, just cool for
red check you would have said that.
Speaker 2 (02:31):
I'm gonn check with it though.
Speaker 4 (02:32):
We're good.
Speaker 1 (02:33):
You wa got the new project wax museum.
Speaker 2 (02:36):
Wax museum.
Speaker 1 (02:37):
Oh it's wax music wax museum.
Speaker 4 (02:39):
It's a player on words museum.
Speaker 1 (02:41):
Okay, okay, okay, yeah, what does that mean to you?
That title?
Speaker 2 (02:45):
She said? Get closer. I just want to just like
this wax museum.
Speaker 4 (02:51):
So I'm not gonna lie.
Speaker 2 (02:52):
Like I keep notebooks with me.
Speaker 5 (02:54):
I'm always taking notes constantly, like just living everyday life,
moving around, and I'm just like always trying to find
a way.
Speaker 2 (03:00):
To be you know, quirky and different and just like
I said, play with words.
Speaker 5 (03:04):
So I always had the term wax museum like like
in my like notes, like my earlier red books, Like
I always just had like just different ways to play
with my name, and things start to align them, like,
you know, I think it's time to use this phrase,
like I got whack in the box, I got any
any wacky term you can think of.
Speaker 2 (03:22):
Like I'm just like I want to play with my name.
I love using my name and even.
Speaker 5 (03:25):
Going back to that, like I remember first deciding that
y'all want to use my government name tier a weak.
It's crazy, right, like and then to be a rapper
and like just be like, yo, that's a wag rapper.
In school, like my my teachers called me miss wack
and I hated it. It was so cringe to me
because like, come on, growing up.
Speaker 4 (03:47):
But what made you finally say in twenty seventeen, now
I'm gonna go from dizzlz t.
Speaker 5 (03:52):
Dizzel t t away. Yeah, because I wanted to be great.
I wanted to be a legend in all the household
names they used. Most of them used their names Lamar
Lauren Hill.
Speaker 1 (04:02):
Yeah yeah, I like legendary, dizzle, dizzy dizzy, I not azzle.
But you know, I like how you.
Speaker 3 (04:18):
I thought it was how you broke it down because
you said the wax museum came from if you ever
see a wax figure figure, yea breaking down because I
thought that was dope.
Speaker 1 (04:24):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (04:25):
So First of all, I remember my first time going
to l A. Like the first place I wanted to
go to was the Wax Museum. I thought that was
I'm like, I gotta go there, my nice name, Like
that's gonna be so cool. And I just of course
wanted to experience and see if, like how real the
wax figures looked.
Speaker 2 (04:42):
They weren't as well as I thought.
Speaker 5 (04:44):
And then I'm just like all right, of course, me
being in my rat molde, me being an mc A writer,
I'm like, oh, I can make this a line, This
can be cohesive with the storyline for the for the project.
So wax figure from a distance, it looks real, but
when you get up close.
Speaker 2 (04:58):
She's like, a it's not.
Speaker 4 (05:00):
I thought.
Speaker 5 (05:00):
So it's like, you know, just being let down like
people I met over the years and you know, just
like I said, coming up in the industry, yeah let
me down.
Speaker 2 (05:10):
Yeah yeah, I was like, I thought you and that's
why it's hard for me.
Speaker 5 (05:13):
Like I got some some new switching people out my team,
Like I work with people for ten years and like
it just ain't been it hasn't been working something like
it's time for you to us to go our separate ways.
Speaker 2 (05:23):
I'm saying that to say.
Speaker 4 (05:26):
It's not always.
Speaker 2 (05:29):
Hmmm, I'm trying to find a correct way.
Speaker 4 (05:31):
To to say it.
Speaker 1 (05:32):
There's no correct way. Yeah, it's just you really forget
what you was about to say.
Speaker 2 (05:38):
That's yeah, I did.
Speaker 5 (05:41):
I thought switch switching team members out, you know, because
like I said, you know, you see, I think sometimes
when you're standing close to a giant, you don't realize
that that person is a giant, you know what I mean.
So it's like, yeah, people get comfortable and they sleep.
Some people lose faith, you know what I mean. Like,
but y'all going through a cycle and just trying to
(06:02):
figure each day. We're just trying to figure it out.
Speaker 1 (06:04):
You know. The thing I like about you is that
whenever I hear you, when I see you, it's just
like ya, you can't put her in a box. But
I still feel like there's another level of how nuts
you could really get? Yeah, I be wondering, just like
this is this industry give you the freedom to be
yourself for real?
Speaker 5 (06:18):
Definitely, But you know it's always a catch. Like I
tell people no, A lot of people don't say no.
I say, that's one of my favorite words. Yeah, and
that's you know, so sometimes you say no and then
people full away. Everybody's so emotional like and it don't
be nothing personal, like even down to like people sending
you records. They'll send you record like a record, Yo,
I want you on this, but the record.
Speaker 2 (06:37):
Might be ass and it's like, can you got anything
else back there? I gotta feel it, you know where
you always like that?
Speaker 5 (06:48):
Yeah, always yeah, And coming up I had to like
people are like, yo, you like you're too real.
Speaker 2 (06:54):
I didn't know it was a such thing as being
too real, you know.
Speaker 3 (06:59):
Yeah, so it's like you get so busy though, Like
I was listening to your album and every time I
hate you, I forget how nice you are.
Speaker 1 (07:06):
Crazy I'm a nice person, No, not nice, forget.
Speaker 4 (07:14):
Much.
Speaker 1 (07:14):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (07:15):
So so listen when I was rapping, everybody's like nobody,
like they weren't taken to it. And it's just like
I'm sitting here like killing myself at like up late
at night, writing being creative. And then I put it
out and people were just like, oh whatever, or that's
too that's too much, it's too complicated. So I'm like,
all right, well this was boring to me anyway, let
me go really like coming from Philly, all we know
(07:35):
how to do is rap, like freestyle cipher, like we
just going hard, bars, bars, lyrics, lyrics.
Speaker 2 (07:41):
That's cool.
Speaker 5 (07:41):
I came up on that, Like I said, I studied.
I feel like I mastered that. I got to a
level where I'm like, I'm respectable. But the hard part
is making a record, creating a song. That's like where
we all kind of get like all of the MC's,
all the rappers, it's like, yo, he could rap it,
he could wrap to any beat, but when they come
to making a song, he can't make a record. So
that was one of my biggest fears. So I'm like,
you know what, Okay, Like I'm I'm rapping and rapping
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and I got my respect, but now it's time to
Like I said, I want to be a household name.
Speaker 2 (08:07):
I want to be an artist. I don't want to
just be a rapper.
Speaker 4 (08:10):
I saw you say that this is your first real
rap project. Yeah, but but then I saw the interview
with Descibe. You said rap was born at one point.
What made you want to come back and just get
into rep Is it not born anymore? You feel like
a really a really important person in my life.
Speaker 5 (08:25):
His name's kni he uh. He's like mentor manager, engineer,
he does everything. He's like, what I really need you
to rap right now? I was like, and he's like, well,
I choose the beats and just just do ITID don't
think about it, just do it. And I'm like all right,
and then I just did it.
Speaker 4 (08:42):
So he made all these beats.
Speaker 2 (08:43):
No, he didn't make them all.
Speaker 1 (08:44):
He chose them like he you know, yeah intro and
you're like, yo, they say I should rap more? You
talking about yeah?
Speaker 5 (08:51):
No, I mean but the people people, we want you
to rap, and people just like want me to pop
it more. I'm not like, naturally, I don't.
Speaker 4 (08:58):
I wish you was so bad?
Speaker 1 (09:00):
Yeah that too, I don't toe column man, what.
Speaker 4 (09:07):
Talk about?
Speaker 2 (09:08):
Like just be like they want me to brag, like
be on it like this.
Speaker 4 (09:16):
What I like about?
Speaker 1 (09:17):
They called me whack. Ain't nobody ever called you? That's
that's how you start the album?
Speaker 4 (09:22):
What do you mean her name?
Speaker 5 (09:24):
Call me?
Speaker 1 (09:24):
Nobody say my government? But I thought it was a double.
Speaker 4 (09:27):
It is a double.
Speaker 1 (09:28):
One time nobody calling you wha. I ain't never hear that.
Speaker 4 (09:32):
You meant that you heard people calling you back? But
also that but see right there.
Speaker 2 (09:35):
That's what you're supposed to say right now.
Speaker 1 (09:37):
That's it.
Speaker 4 (09:38):
That's just here say that her teacher used to call
her miss Wag. Yeah, everybody call her.
Speaker 5 (09:44):
It's a double one time though for sure they called
me wack. Luckily it's my government.
Speaker 1 (09:48):
Like it's like like when somebody be like, yeah, I
know I'm not that cute, just.
Speaker 4 (09:52):
So they can hear like, oh no, you fly sure, Charlotte. Anyway,
why why is Wag museum only twenty seven minutes?
Speaker 2 (10:02):
That's all I had, just like, look, this is what
we're gonna do.
Speaker 5 (10:11):
I gotta go because I want to get back to
singing and being silly and and just you know, making
different records like that's like that rap stuff is boring
to me.
Speaker 3 (10:18):
Now you also say that you make it seem I
would say that you feel like the culture doesn't respect you.
Speaker 1 (10:23):
That's what the flowers on I think.
Speaker 4 (10:25):
So I put that when we went to the view,
Yeah I saw that was this up.
Speaker 1 (10:31):
Why do you feel like favor right now? Why do
you feel that way?
Speaker 2 (10:34):
My favorite?
Speaker 4 (10:35):
No, I'm talking to you.
Speaker 2 (10:36):
I just want you to know I really appreciate it
that because I don't see them do nothing post but
you posted.
Speaker 4 (10:39):
I appreciate that I did, so why you.
Speaker 1 (10:42):
I posted your verse off north side off? Now, okay,
sorry because I gave Lauren a shout out.
Speaker 4 (10:51):
I did.
Speaker 1 (10:52):
We definitely, yeah, but why do you feel that way
about the industry? Didn't answer.
Speaker 5 (10:58):
Because I wrapped so good and y'all, how y'all sleeping?
Like I'm not gonna lie like the record TD, I
washed all of them niggas.
Speaker 1 (11:05):
Yeah, I really did.
Speaker 4 (11:09):
I really did.
Speaker 2 (11:10):
Like that's crazy.
Speaker 5 (11:11):
Like I listened back, like, damn, she really killed It's crazy.
Speaker 2 (11:16):
Like and y'all he told me to do it. Yeah,
he's one of my best friends.
Speaker 5 (11:18):
Like, he told me to do it. He's like, yo,
he's like, I need you to do what you do.
He's I'm not telling He's like, but just do what
you do. Once again, somebody calling me telling me to rap,
you know, and yeah.
Speaker 4 (11:29):
But do you think it's people want that, and then
when you serve it up and you give it to them,
it's like, I don't know we can take that from
I don't know what they want. The consumers don't know
what they want.
Speaker 2 (11:37):
That's all. You just gotta do what you want to do.
At the end of the day.
Speaker 4 (11:39):
You know what I mean.
Speaker 5 (11:40):
And that's what I'm learning, Like, I just do what
I want to do when I feel like it. And
I got my core team, my family, and he was like, yeo,
it's time I'm rapping.
Speaker 1 (11:48):
I did it feel like people celebrate your imagination more
than your boss? Oh?
Speaker 2 (11:54):
Yes, definitely, Yes, that's that's good. Definitely.
Speaker 4 (11:57):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (11:58):
Like I be wanting to die real bad, real fast.
It's like like people beginning my nerves. I'm like, you know,
like you don't appreciate me. I be wanting to die
like like like ten hours. But that's how I'm very
I want to sleep. I want them to really think
like damn she passed away, like damn.
Speaker 1 (12:12):
My gods.
Speaker 4 (12:15):
Next because you feel like they appreciation it, was like
you want to Yeah, yeah, I'm not playing. So what
does your creative process look like? If you hate doing
it so much? How do you even get in the
bag where you're like, all right, let me do this
or is it just that easy way that ship just.
Speaker 2 (12:35):
Come off the cuff and yeah, I just gotta I
got different characters.
Speaker 4 (12:40):
Yeah, So who are you when you made wax Museum?
Speaker 2 (12:45):
I was Tee Diesel te Dizel.
Speaker 5 (12:47):
Yeah, on a block, rapping for trying to impress the guys,
the old heads, the old g Yeah, you started, yep
back where I started, back to my roots, and it
felt good because like, you know, you do something so
long and then like you become comfortable with it and
it doesn't it doesn't do anything for you. You know,
it doesn't ignite you, like it's just like whatever. And
then so when I went back and listened to the records, like,
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I'm not gonna lie.
Speaker 2 (13:09):
Even to this day, I don't. I haven't even listened to.
Speaker 5 (13:12):
My project, like all the way through. Yeah, because it's
like it's cool, but like I just move on. I
move on really fast.
Speaker 1 (13:18):
I mean a whack job that it starts to slow down.
Speaker 2 (13:21):
Yeah, And I followed the beat.
Speaker 1 (13:22):
Yeah. When I heard the beat, thought I was having
a stroke.
Speaker 5 (13:25):
Just no listen and it's crazy, right, Like I said.
When I was listening to the beat, I'm like, wait,
he slowed Wait, what's going on with the beat? And
I was like, oh, that's intentional. And I was like,
all right, I'm gonna just slow motion.
Speaker 1 (13:35):
You can't. That's how she is.
Speaker 4 (13:38):
Yeah, you never know.
Speaker 1 (13:40):
It was dope. But once I realized you were doing
it on purpose when I was driving and I'm take
a deep breath.
Speaker 2 (13:48):
No, no, yeah, and messes with your head.
Speaker 4 (13:50):
It does, it does?
Speaker 1 (13:51):
It does?
Speaker 2 (13:51):
Yeah, it does.
Speaker 4 (13:52):
So you haven't listened to the whole album back?
Speaker 2 (13:54):
No, No, really skips like I gotta like actually learn
it I make. So that's nothing. I really work hard.
Speaker 4 (13:59):
I work.
Speaker 5 (13:59):
I make so much music, Like I record all the time.
So it's like you gotta do karaoke with your own shit. Yes, crazy,
And then like I'm listening back and I'm like, damn,
I don't a lot of times.
Speaker 2 (14:11):
I love my mistakes.
Speaker 5 (14:12):
I learned to love my mistakes, like most most of
like my you know, most popular records, Like it's like
mistakes or like and then I just keep that, just
keep it like literally, well like it.
Speaker 2 (14:22):
Was one record it's called Clones. He he sneezed, and
I was like, let's keep that.
Speaker 5 (14:26):
And that was his you know, he sneeze always in
the he's sitting on my lap while he recorded me
or whatever, like we just in a little in the
tramp house or whatever, like getting it and I'm like,
let's keep that or I'm I it just I don't know.
I just have fun and I never read anything.
Speaker 2 (14:38):
Like, I just I just live like a kid.
Speaker 4 (14:40):
Have you listened to Sirens back?
Speaker 2 (14:42):
Yeah, sirens is hard. Sirens is hard. Yeah, sirens hard.
Speaker 3 (14:46):
Of the producers was so so excited that you shot
one of your videos in the hood. She was like, Yo,
nobody goes to that part of the hood and she
went there shot a video. Don't know, I'm not fing filly,
so that's your.
Speaker 2 (14:54):
Yeah, I'm from like every hood.
Speaker 5 (14:56):
I'm like the only person that's from like everywhere, Like
Meek is like he from like from North End South,
but I'm from like I lived everywhere in the city.
I was getting passed around, Dan, get you off the door.
Speaker 1 (15:10):
Not North What was that from?
Speaker 4 (15:13):
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (15:14):
People respect uptown.
Speaker 2 (15:16):
Yeah, uptown Korea. They little bougie, but yeah we like uptown.
Speaker 4 (15:19):
Yeah she thinks she is. But there later on what
you saying the one in Kensington? What video was it?
Speaker 1 (15:28):
No?
Speaker 5 (15:29):
That was they mixed it up six See we we
shot like two days and then we just mixed up
all the footage like yeah, wegg job was like in.
Speaker 2 (15:36):
A Yeah that was that wasn't Kinton Cousinton was.
Speaker 1 (15:40):
That was?
Speaker 2 (15:40):
Like it was more clips of was that wax.
Speaker 1 (15:43):
Paper really said she wants you to blow up this door.
Just don't end up. Like yeah she said that.
Speaker 5 (15:51):
Damn she said don't because like, all right, so you know,
I'm a young girl coming up and a male dominated industry.
So I'm telling her mom, I met this guy, I
met this person or whatever, and she like weary, you know,
she like hold on, you know, as a mom should be.
And they better not be playing ass as one mom
would say to me. Yeah, yeah, you know, I was
so scared of my mom, so like I always told
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her the truth. Like I never kept anything away from
my mom because I was like, she gonna find out anyway.
Speaker 2 (16:16):
Somebody as want to tell her.
Speaker 4 (16:17):
Yeah, ain't nobody nobody playing.
Speaker 2 (16:21):
No, But I mean, you know she would know. She
would like to smell it.
Speaker 4 (16:26):
She would somebody, she would know. Dang, she she got
a way of finding that.
Speaker 1 (16:31):
She just know what sounds different.
Speaker 4 (16:39):
Yeah, he said it out here, he said it. So
what's your mental like popping back out this time?
Speaker 1 (16:44):
Right?
Speaker 4 (16:44):
Because I watched the interview you did when the Desk,
I think it was like two years ago, and you
were talking about how you went through some real like
deep dark things in your personal life that almost made
you in real life like not want to be here anymore. Yeah,
and it was hard balancing the industry and the real
life part of it.
Speaker 5 (16:59):
Like I actually want to be here, like I wouldn't
have showed I wouldn't have shown up about it. I
want to be here, I actually do. Yeah, I want
to be here today. Yeah, I'm having a good time.
I'm having fun and I'm just like I'm really popping
my ship this time, Like I don't care. I don't
care what nobody thinks, nobody said, because it's like if
you don't. Sometimes, you know, you play small, you play
you walk light and everything, and then like people treat
you that way, and then you start to feel that way.
Speaker 4 (17:18):
And then it's just like a disaster, you know.
Speaker 5 (17:21):
Yeah, I'm like no, I just like I'm walking around
my head down. It's like, nah, let me, you know,
adjust my my posture, and you know what I mean,
because people will treat you how you treat yourself.
Speaker 1 (17:32):
I was going to ask you if Tierra Whack the
artist becoming more like Tierra Whacked the person, but I'm
slowly realizing they are the same.
Speaker 2 (17:38):
Yeah, definitely, definitely you'll be cooking I'm just.
Speaker 1 (17:44):
So there's no character with you, because sometimes people create
this character to protect the real them. But yeah, this
is who you are.
Speaker 2 (17:52):
That's who I am.
Speaker 4 (17:54):
Do you have anybody that you would like to work
with any other?
Speaker 1 (17:57):
Uh?
Speaker 4 (17:57):
Because listening to the album, I was like, I wonder
if she ever thought about working with Rhapsody.
Speaker 5 (18:04):
Yeah, no, no, I just talked to Rhapsody. It was
like yesterday I called her and we were talking behind
a lot of people's Yeah. Yeah, we was talking about
a lot of people.
Speaker 1 (18:14):
I know.
Speaker 2 (18:17):
No, but we said, like we got to get in.
Speaker 5 (18:18):
You know, she's doing her roll out to and everything too,
but we want to get in because like we're actually friends,
but we got to like make music.
Speaker 2 (18:24):
But that's what I like too.
Speaker 5 (18:25):
Like you know when I when I first was coming up,
everybody was just throwing stuff at me, and I'm like, yo,
I want to I.
Speaker 2 (18:29):
Like to connect with people, you know, like it's not
but I know it's business. So I had to learn it.
Speaker 5 (18:33):
Just like sometimes you just got like when be called,
I'm gonna just send that thing. I ain't even going yeah,
like you know, I don't need much of it. I
send it back to you.
Speaker 2 (18:40):
Yeah, thank you.
Speaker 4 (18:40):
Thank you.
Speaker 2 (18:41):
But yeah, so No Rhapsody is actually a friend, a
good friend.
Speaker 1 (18:44):
Do you think that people might have stopped calling because
you were saying no so much like like ain't gonna
do it, she ain't gonna do it. Maybe so you
can get a rap snob reputation for sure.
Speaker 4 (18:56):
Yeah, but it's like it could just be preferenced though,
like what's wrong with the press?
Speaker 2 (18:59):
I know, And that's the thing I'm not saying no.
Speaker 5 (19:00):
I'm like, just give me another option, because I you know,
like and I'll listen for you know, to a record
for a few days. Sometimes it's you know, it's automatic,
like you might hear like, well I'm jump right on this,
and sometimes the beat is so crazy you don't even know.
Speaker 4 (19:10):
What to do.
Speaker 2 (19:12):
You could do it this way, you could do it,
you know, like you just got to figure it out.
Speaker 5 (19:16):
But yeah, I just people everybody's so sensitive, so emotional.
It's not personal, like, guys, I want to I want
to do this. I want to be a part of it.
Every almost everything everybody sends me. I want to find
a way to make it work. But if it doesn't
work for me, I have to be real.
Speaker 4 (19:29):
Have you happen somebody ever sent you something you said
you didn't want to do it, but when it came out,
he was like, damn no, no, I couldn't.
Speaker 2 (19:35):
You know, I'm not gonna lie.
Speaker 4 (19:38):
I'm never wrong. Gotcha, Yeah, gotcha?
Speaker 1 (19:41):
With that moment that to be to you award, that
had to be a validation.
Speaker 5 (19:47):
We had to meet Johnny, Johnny right here, my manager.
We had to fight for that role, for the position.
Speaker 2 (19:55):
We had to fight. Yes we did.
Speaker 4 (19:56):
I thought maybe you got plugged in because Joe Scott
and I know she didn't. She couldn't make no.
Speaker 1 (20:00):
I thought it was hand selected. It seemed like everybody
up there to me.
Speaker 4 (20:06):
Made a lot of sense. But I was surprised to
see them give you.
Speaker 1 (20:09):
Then you had to fight to be in the La Tierra.
Speaker 2 (20:12):
I was swinging like.
Speaker 4 (20:14):
I was like.
Speaker 2 (20:16):
Like I was fighting to get in there.
Speaker 4 (20:18):
So talk about it. So what was the journey to
this stage? So all right?
Speaker 2 (20:21):
I think it was like early June.
Speaker 5 (20:23):
I saw BT post that they were doing the Laurence
Hill Tribute Miss Hill Tribute, and I sent it to
Johnny and I put the rolling eyes. I was like,
can we get this like some kind of way? Because
I just know, like it's it gets tricky. I'm like,
but I need to be a part of this, and
he just like, you know, double taped.
Speaker 4 (20:41):
They just hearded it.
Speaker 2 (20:41):
I'm like, all right, he's going to try to figure
it out.
Speaker 5 (20:44):
And but I think I asked him once and he
was like he didn't really he didn't seem confident, and
I'm like, and I don't have like a direct direct
line to Miss Hill. I mean, you know, we got
ways to get but I don't have like her direct line.
So yeah, waited, waited, and then Johnny called me. How
early was that like a few days before maybe dang
a week before, and he was like, I'm calling you
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to tell you first. He was like, you're doing Miss
Hill's tribute and I just busted out into tears. Yoa's
crazy because I remember having her CD and being like,
if she can do it, then I can do it.
And I was going to, you know, going around with
so much trying to find an in house engineer, somebody
who I can build with, you know, create my sound,
and so many people told me like you got to
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either rap or sing.
Speaker 2 (21:30):
You can't do both.
Speaker 5 (21:31):
And I'm like, but Lauren Hill did it, and they're like, yeah, no,
that's once in a lifetime, like it's no, and just
to be able to have this full circle moment, I said, Johnny,
what song do I have? I said, I'm good, but
I know every record, but I you know, just as
long as they don't give me fuji Li because that's
the one, I'll just let Lauren rep by herself. I said,
you got that one because she's spitting this. It's like
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tongue twisters.
Speaker 2 (21:53):
They gave me fuuji Li. I was hissed.
Speaker 5 (21:57):
I was like, no, because I know every other song,
but no Fujila was hard, like that was one of
the hardest versus I.
Speaker 1 (22:04):
Yeah, like yeah, I was like, it's just crazy. You
had to fight for it because it seemed like everybody
that was part of that tribute literally was truede off.
Lauren Tree was supposed to be there, You Rhapsody hymn.
They all make so much sense.
Speaker 5 (22:18):
Oh, miss Hill, Yes, that's what you said, right. Our team, Yeah,
our team reached out and I think she didn't know
like what was happening at first.
Speaker 2 (22:26):
She was like I'm not sure.
Speaker 5 (22:27):
I don't have too much to do with it, but
you know, yeah, I'll try to fight to get her
on there. Yeah, so damn yeah, yes, we talked like briefly,
briefly yeah, but no, like I said, I literally I
was eating, sleeping, waking up, like I had to memorize
that rap because I was the one I didn't know.
That's you know how you go to a concert and
like you know your rep, you hype, you hYP hype,
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but that's the one. I just I'll be quiet. I'd
be like yea, yeah, whoosy, like it's like what girl,
you own ands and battle boles like high nos and
like I'm like what But I remember though, I taped
into when I first started writing, and I was trying
to write just like her, So my old raps sound
more like her, you know what I mean. But it
was just like a blast from the past.
Speaker 4 (23:09):
I'm like, oh, shoot, how long is to keep learning?
Speaker 2 (23:12):
We get it down the week?
Speaker 1 (23:14):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (23:14):
Week?
Speaker 2 (23:18):
Yeah right right.
Speaker 4 (23:22):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (23:23):
In saloons, Salon, Yeah, in Saloons we drink boons, So
I had to look up saloons because I don't drink
and and then boons is just a drink and wine.
Yet in saloons we drink boons and battle boons till
high till high noon. Bus raptuns on flat spoons, take
no shorts like poom pooms, see who Cheese pop Cool
Cheese for Gucciese and Luci for me and my Missubi.
She eating sushi bumping Fooji's hey, hey, hey, try to
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take the crew, but we don't play place. They say say,
it's just like, what are you about?
Speaker 4 (23:48):
Why would you.
Speaker 1 (23:49):
Buy like.
Speaker 4 (23:51):
God's alignment and time? Because I don't who.
Speaker 5 (23:54):
And then we were hearing Ever Reheard, so like yeah,
I had that song, but I passed it off. It
was too and I'm like, so it's like I fight
to get in, but it's like they're all gonna get
me the hardest, the heaviest, little like it's crazy. That's
how everything's always hard for me.
Speaker 4 (24:07):
Like a journey has been that way because when I
remember when I first moved to La, I would see
you all over like billboards had different brands and ads
you were doing, and I was like, okay, she's right there,
like yes, I know, and then I don't know what happened,
but you're always like boom, she got it because the
time is there. But it's like you always got to
fight a little bit differently drugs yo, she what the hell,
(24:28):
what's wrong with you?
Speaker 5 (24:31):
I was gonna Philly come out. QUI don't let know,
it's cool, it's cool. I'm surprised that I like shoving me.
I didn't think I was gonna like him.
Speaker 1 (24:38):
Got a little bit of time.
Speaker 4 (24:40):
No, No, I do.
Speaker 5 (24:40):
I like people like him, and people like him usually
like me. Y. Yeah, no, it should have been drugs.
It should have been drugs, but it wasn't drugs. I
never I've never done a drug in my life. Don't
drink any alcohol either. But no, I think it just
was trying to balance out being a public figure.
Speaker 2 (24:59):
Naturally.
Speaker 5 (24:59):
I am a chill person, like I don't care for
too much attention, like you know, like I'm introverted, like
for the most part I am. So it's like I
don't require a lot, but my job, yeah that's got
it requires that. So it's like turning it on and off.
It's like it's crazy. So I was just trying to
balance it and it was a lot for me, and
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I just realized, I said, everybody like everybody fake fake
as hell?
Speaker 1 (25:24):
Right?
Speaker 2 (25:24):
Fake?
Speaker 1 (25:25):
You think artists burned out from making music, from from
constantly having to sell themselves in this business?
Speaker 5 (25:32):
Yeah, like I never had. I never sold my body before.
Like it's like I'm trying to I never sold my body, right,
and I don't know where I'm going with this. I
was like, okay, that's what I meant, Lawrence, you got
(25:54):
I would win more if I chose to put less
on it.
Speaker 1 (25:56):
That was just.
Speaker 4 (25:59):
Yo.
Speaker 2 (25:59):
I I never.
Speaker 4 (26:04):
We're not gonna badge prostitution because no, it's not.
Speaker 5 (26:06):
It's like just my body, like I don't expose myself,
like yeah, like I don't even just having to sell
you that would help, Like I keep I'm thinking about
getting a BBL, but like.
Speaker 4 (26:14):
No, think again, don't do you know, because you don't
need to do that. Ship some more people are listening.
Speaker 1 (26:20):
No, what I mean just even having to sell yourself
as a dope ass artist like talent, I don't.
Speaker 2 (26:25):
Have to sell it though, I don't have to sell it.
Speaker 4 (26:26):
Yeah, I don't gotta sell it.
Speaker 2 (26:28):
I just gotta do it.
Speaker 1 (26:28):
Show up and like, no, it's somebody job to sell it.
Speaker 4 (26:32):
My job selling it.
Speaker 2 (26:33):
Yeah, the team they sell it, y'all gonn sell me.
Speaker 4 (26:35):
That's why you're switching them out and stuff and trying
to figure out what's the best that is selling.
Speaker 2 (26:38):
Yeah, yeah, what's the next question. Yeah, do you like No,
I hate interviews.
Speaker 4 (26:51):
Get nervous. I never want to talk to these.
Speaker 2 (26:53):
It's nervous and it's a mixture.
Speaker 4 (26:56):
Yeah, like I don't really like talking to people I
don't know. Yeah, answering the same ship over, yes, before
to one two years ago? When the last one I
saw it was seven years ago or something like that.
I thought you just didn't like divulge a lot when
you don't have a lot to talk about. Yeah.
Speaker 5 (27:10):
A lot of people talk when they shouldn't speak, Like
it's like, why are you shut up? I'm more of
a listener an observer. Yeah, and then you I'll go
back and then you'll hear something that you said and
the record or so you know, like I I'm a sponge.
Speaker 4 (27:23):
So is the list long for people asking you to
write for them?
Speaker 2 (27:27):
No, it's not that long.
Speaker 4 (27:29):
No more because you say no.
Speaker 1 (27:30):
Or is it no?
Speaker 4 (27:31):
I never say no.
Speaker 5 (27:33):
Earlier I did say just cut that out because I
did say but so that made me look like exactly, Yeah,
I mean I did a few things for a few people.
Speaker 2 (27:45):
Yeah, okay, yeah, keep the lights on.
Speaker 1 (27:48):
When you wrote the record Flowers, why did you need
to tell yourself that, Yo.
Speaker 2 (27:53):
You know what's crazy? I hate flowers?
Speaker 4 (27:55):
What I love that song?
Speaker 6 (27:57):
Why?
Speaker 2 (27:58):
No, no, not the song.
Speaker 5 (27:59):
I just hate flowers. Well, first of all, I'm allergic
to everything. Yeah, I'm like yeah, like brass, like the environment.
Speaker 4 (28:06):
Like I just live in a.
Speaker 2 (28:09):
Yeah yeah, so like I'll see some pretty flowers.
Speaker 5 (28:13):
And then like my eyes are itching. His eye, So
it kind of just made me like not really care
for him over the years. But no, you know, speaking
of the record though, Yeah, I just I need the praise.
I want it, you know, like I work my ass off,
I earned, I earned everything that I have, and I
want more.
Speaker 4 (28:30):
I deserve more.
Speaker 5 (28:31):
And if you, like I said, if you don't speak
out for yourself and advocate for yourself, then nobody will.
Speaker 2 (28:35):
So yeah, I just I'm on it.
Speaker 4 (28:37):
What does what does the ideal uh career look like?
For tear Wet Because you're in your own lane and things,
So what are your here's when I'm lit my goals?
Speaker 5 (28:47):
Yo, I want to have my own sketch show one day. Yeah,
what else do I want? I just want to I
want to continue to just like build up my community
like as far as like and fit like in we
don't have like a real like we have an arts scene,
but like I want to have like a hub, Like
I want to create a hub where, like you know, say,
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like the younger youth, the youth that we have like
a some type of like community centers or something. I
like when I was coming up, we had and it
was a place to go after school and then you know,
whether you're playing sports, you on the computers, you're doing something.
But I just feel like kids they get out of school,
half them not not even going to school. You get
out of school and then you just kind of crash out.
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You have no no creative outlets. So I want to
create some type of like hub for like just up
and coming creators, like whether it's performance arts, Uh, you know,
graphic designing, dance, everything, comedy.
Speaker 4 (29:42):
Yeah, all that everything.
Speaker 6 (29:46):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (29:47):
I feel like you gotta like my mom, she made
sure whatever, like I showed a small interest in She's like, here,
let's do it.
Speaker 4 (29:53):
Let's she put me.
Speaker 2 (29:53):
She pushed me, you know, like let's do it. Do everything.
She would tell me to do everything and then just
see what's next to you.
Speaker 1 (29:58):
I like, really quote Ice Pikes to you in a
motivational way, what do you mean on the record, unless
I heard it wrong. You said Wallow told me that
they that I'm the ship they Now.
Speaker 2 (30:10):
I didn't even realize. I was like, I just I
was today years ol. I didn't know that Ice Spice
said that. He said something like that. Yeah he did,
he did.
Speaker 4 (30:16):
He was crazy.
Speaker 1 (30:18):
Yeah, you didn't know.
Speaker 4 (30:20):
I didn't know that.
Speaker 2 (30:22):
Ice pis to She just followed me on Instagram like
two days ago.
Speaker 1 (30:25):
That's what. Yeah, So Wallow really just said that you
want Yeah, you know, he like you know, you.
Speaker 4 (30:29):
Know how he is.
Speaker 2 (30:30):
Yeah, he talking quotes crazy around.
Speaker 4 (30:35):
Crazy.
Speaker 1 (30:36):
Now you you worked with Beyonce. Is it true that
you met her at an ice a roller skating party.
Speaker 4 (30:40):
I didn't meet her.
Speaker 2 (30:41):
I didn't meet her. I seen her and she saw
me see her.
Speaker 5 (30:45):
I kept a distance, yeah, because it's like, you know
you Beyonce, So I'm not gonna be like, you know,
like I was chilling.
Speaker 1 (30:50):
You know.
Speaker 2 (30:50):
It was a Genemo one a skating party.
Speaker 1 (30:52):
And I just looked at each other.
Speaker 2 (30:54):
She looked at she's I was looking at her, and
she saw me. I said, she saw me see her.
Speaker 1 (30:57):
So it was just like, you know, introduce yourself.
Speaker 2 (30:59):
He was in because it's just like she chilling, she
skating by herself.
Speaker 4 (31:02):
You're not gonna go bother Beyonce. I definitely feel you.
I would not do that. It was just her.
Speaker 2 (31:08):
She was glowing, just on the floor by herself.
Speaker 5 (31:09):
It felt like she was like, yeah, she's just like
jealous and she was smiling like I'm Beyonce, you know,
like that's how you know.
Speaker 2 (31:17):
So you just don't do too much.
Speaker 1 (31:18):
You just to she reached out to you after that.
Speaker 2 (31:21):
Yeah, it was whispers like, yo, the bee is looking
for you.
Speaker 4 (31:26):
Don't ever come up to me talking about the be
is looking for you.
Speaker 2 (31:29):
Yeah, there was a lot of buzz.
Speaker 1 (31:34):
Then what happened that?
Speaker 4 (31:35):
Like you're like, okay, did you even believe it?
Speaker 2 (31:37):
I didn't believe it because like what do you mean?
And why can't like somebody just like yeah, comes think
I told you, Yeah you did it, you did it?
Speaker 1 (31:46):
So what happened?
Speaker 5 (31:51):
No, we gotta we got a text or call or
something from a reliable source and yeah, they sent the
record and it was like it is do it like
two days and I sent it back the same day
and then.
Speaker 1 (32:03):
That was it.
Speaker 5 (32:04):
But the verse happened so quickly that I thought it
was trash. It's like there's no way and there's no
way it came that easy like we did. The verse
happened so fast, not even like probably an hour.
Speaker 4 (32:15):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (32:16):
Yeah, but you know how you get to those moments
and you're like, like you making sure you it's not
on your eyes, like let me say, let me make
sure but show.
Speaker 1 (32:26):
Yeah, they ain't never had to write a sixteen.
Speaker 4 (32:31):
Yeah, I can imagine it though, or you have those
moments where you're like, dang, this really like happening. It's
really happening. Yeah, but she wanted you to show up
and be you when you did that. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (32:41):
And I was supposed to be on a third verse,
but they put she put me first, so that was cool.
Speaker 1 (32:44):
And then she before she performed the song when she
was on tour.
Speaker 2 (32:46):
Right, Yeah, she did like the remix, the Queen's Remix.
Speaker 1 (32:49):
And how did that feel? Did you see it? Did
you go to tour watch it?
Speaker 2 (32:51):
No?
Speaker 4 (32:51):
I didn't go.
Speaker 1 (32:53):
At the concert.
Speaker 2 (32:54):
No, she was saying my name every night.
Speaker 4 (32:55):
That was so fire.
Speaker 1 (32:57):
You didn't go one time invited.
Speaker 2 (33:00):
I didn't get invited, So I was like I'm gonna
just you know.
Speaker 1 (33:02):
Too, Yeah, steak, Yeah, you definitely always move at your
own pace. Has patients cost you opportunities? Has it protected
your artistry?
Speaker 4 (33:11):
Now?
Speaker 2 (33:11):
I think protected? Yeah, I definitely think protected.
Speaker 5 (33:16):
Because like at the end of the day, I'm going
to do like you said, I don't regret anything, Like
somebody sent me a booty record when it come out
of still booty, like you know, that's what it is.
So I always trust, trust my intuition and my gut,
and I haven't been wrong yet. So yeah, and that's
important too, like I said, just trusting yourself and not
being you know, yeah way you know, but yeah, because
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you get in these rooms and then it's like you're like, wait,
do I belong here?
Speaker 6 (33:42):
Hell?
Speaker 4 (33:43):
Yeah, I belong here, you know. So yeah, Now you.
Speaker 1 (33:46):
Wanted to record in Tokyo. I know, way back you
recorded some some records Tokyo. Why Tokyo of all.
Speaker 5 (33:50):
Places Japan is just fired a fashion, the art scene,
just everything it feels. I think I went The first
time I went was like twenty nineteen, twenty eighteen, and
they were wearing the mask. They were like like I
would eat off the ground in Tokyo. It's so yeah,
they don't play.
Speaker 1 (34:07):
So it's what inspiration does Tokyo give?
Speaker 2 (34:08):
It?
Speaker 1 (34:08):
Just the fashion and all that.
Speaker 2 (34:10):
Yeah, just everything I listened in me not the music
was different.
Speaker 4 (34:16):
Your creative processing anyway.
Speaker 2 (34:19):
Yeah, it's the future. It feels like the future.
Speaker 4 (34:21):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (34:22):
And then that's the first time I got my my
My cheeks were warmed and my ass was wet at
the same time.
Speaker 4 (34:26):
It was it was smelled that ship.
Speaker 5 (34:31):
For that.
Speaker 1 (34:32):
See what you can.
Speaker 4 (34:34):
You see what she does?
Speaker 1 (34:37):
She called me?
Speaker 4 (34:38):
She did.
Speaker 1 (34:40):
If people still only call you a rap?
Speaker 2 (34:42):
Is he still talking about?
Speaker 4 (34:44):
Okay, I'm ready to make contact. Now we were saying.
Speaker 1 (34:48):
People still only call you a rapper? Do you feel misunderstood?
Speaker 4 (34:54):
Okay?
Speaker 5 (34:54):
So I went to I think it was a w
NBA game and they put me on a jumble try
and they put rapper and I didn't like that.
Speaker 2 (35:00):
I want artists, entertainer, you know what I mean?
Speaker 1 (35:03):
Yeah, so visual artists.
Speaker 2 (35:06):
Yeah, you can keep you going if you want. Yeah,
thinking more stuff? Are you thinking more things to say?
Speaker 1 (35:13):
I think I was like visual artists, okay, creative director, storytellers,
those singers should definitely be up there, or maybe just
hybrid maybe should be Tierra Wack.
Speaker 4 (35:25):
Definitely that's hard, you know what I mean?
Speaker 1 (35:27):
They seem like people like hybrid or what hybrid?
Speaker 4 (35:30):
Yeah, did you come up listening to the Missy? Yes,
that's exactly your reminded me.
Speaker 2 (35:34):
Yes, I love Missy, Missy so farre so far.
Speaker 1 (35:37):
Yeah, you remind me of miss but with better bars.
Speaker 2 (35:40):
Yeah for sure. So she you know, like just the
reps I came from, like a rapping.
Speaker 4 (35:44):
You know, she's different, the way she changed her flows
up and anything. But miss ain't never to take it
off to sell it. So don't you ever take it
off or go get a B B L none of
that ship she was to talking though, Yeah, she's a
talking but she ain't never seen Missy Lizzo, Lizzo win
it up, showing all about it. You know how Liza
would show a titty in a minute. I'm talking about Missy.
(36:07):
Sh ain't never did that to say we.
Speaker 2 (36:10):
Love everybody, Yeah no, no, we doody.
Speaker 4 (36:12):
But I'm just saying certain women do certain things.
Speaker 5 (36:14):
Yeah, it's not the Lizzo too, Crazy Verse Crazy Verse,
that's one of my favorites, or her last project.
Speaker 1 (36:20):
Yeah. Yeah, when you think of Missy, when you think
of Andre, when you think of Tyler, like all of
those people that folks said were weird, but they became legendary.
What do you think today's artists are too afraid to try?
Speaker 5 (36:33):
It's being themselves, simply being themselves. Like you know, I
hate when people say only you could do that, and no,
you could do it too. You're just you're just afraid too.
He talked like that all de time, what only you
could do that?
Speaker 4 (36:42):
No, I'll be like, no, that's like you as a
man can say and do those things. And he'd be like,
that's not true. You can do it. You just don't.
Speaker 1 (36:47):
You're scared.
Speaker 2 (36:50):
You're scared.
Speaker 4 (36:52):
Damn M, I don't be scared. Are you scared?
Speaker 1 (36:58):
I'm not scared.
Speaker 4 (37:00):
I saw Yeah, Missy got the Culture Creators on it her. Yeah,
the BT Awards week about time, right, and yeah she
cried during her acceptance. You know, we don't really see
her like talk much national. Yeah, but she's talking about
how like they tore her. She was crazy when she
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put the bag on and did the video and did
other things and now everything is like flip for her fire.
But I'm sure sometimes like that makes you feel a
bit alone. When yes, people don't see the vision, you
know it's yours? Yes, how do you do this?
Speaker 5 (37:32):
I keep talking about the gut that intuition, like it's
never been wrong, So like I don't care what nobody
has to say.
Speaker 2 (37:38):
I'm going with this.
Speaker 4 (37:39):
This is what I feel.
Speaker 5 (37:40):
We have to do this right now in this moment.
Sometimes I'm like a little too impulsive, but like it
always works in my favor.
Speaker 4 (37:48):
Mm hmm.
Speaker 1 (37:49):
What's something you've learned about loneliness after?
Speaker 4 (37:54):
I love it.
Speaker 2 (37:55):
The loneliness is so loud, but I love it though
I need it.
Speaker 4 (37:58):
I need it.
Speaker 2 (37:58):
You have to be comfortable with being alone.
Speaker 5 (38:01):
Most people aren't a lot of When I was like
meeting a lot of like artists and everything, like they
always had so many people.
Speaker 4 (38:07):
I'm just like, how do you like?
Speaker 2 (38:08):
This is crazy?
Speaker 5 (38:09):
You can't think for yourself, you can't think by yourself.
Like it's just I need to be alone. I told
you all, Like I'm an introvert. I love being alone.
Speaker 1 (38:16):
What artists in the industry gets you, like gets your
sense of humor that you really connect with?
Speaker 2 (38:21):
Who gets me? YACHTI for sure, little yachty? Uh Erica Erica?
Speaker 4 (38:28):
Who else?
Speaker 2 (38:29):
Was she right up there too?
Speaker 4 (38:29):
That's crazy?
Speaker 2 (38:30):
I didn't see that until I said it.
Speaker 4 (38:32):
Who else?
Speaker 2 (38:33):
Who else? Who else?
Speaker 5 (38:34):
Janelle Money, Jill Scott. Of course, Jill didn't get it
at first. She thought I was distinger on TikTok, but
she she got it now because I did the Golden
Golden cover and I was singing, singing crazy. I was
like mocking her your own lyrics to it, basically, No,
I was singing obnoxiously.
Speaker 4 (38:52):
About like the song life lyrics.
Speaker 2 (38:57):
This is this is the golden lyrics.
Speaker 5 (39:03):
You got you got like yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, no,
uh pretty much everybody gets it now. And then I
started streaming for a little bit too, so like people
like y she does she's crazy. She don't take thank you,
thank you.
Speaker 4 (39:21):
Yeah, yeah, I'm surprised to see you on stream though. Yeah,
I didn't want to do different people.
Speaker 5 (39:26):
I didn't want to do that for a long time either,
because it felt forced, like the cameras on be funny, that's.
Speaker 4 (39:32):
Crazy to me.
Speaker 1 (39:33):
Not if you're naturally funny. You're naturally funny and quick,
thank you crazy. Morgan said you got to teach people comedy,
but but I can't teach you how to be funny.
Speaker 5 (39:42):
He didn't say that I can teach you comedy, but
I can't teach you how to be fun He got
a sidepart don't.
Speaker 2 (39:45):
I hate that sidepart.
Speaker 4 (39:46):
I can't lie. I hate it.
Speaker 2 (39:48):
It irritates me so bad. Yeah, it's about the part.
Speaker 1 (40:00):
What's the biggest misconception people have about introverted offs?
Speaker 2 (40:04):
Mmm?
Speaker 5 (40:07):
Just because I appear to not be doesn't mean I'm
like I'm not, you know, Like I know I come
and like hey, but honestly, I'm a scared little girl
like all the time, Like I'm like, all right, when
is this gonna be over?
Speaker 2 (40:19):
You know, I'm always I'm always ready for everything to
be over.
Speaker 5 (40:23):
Yeah, your words something, You're no, I'm having fun though
when I thought about.
Speaker 1 (40:29):
It, don't believe you. We're in here trying to do
our jobs, and you know, have some confidence I'm not
getting because you're ready to go and we think that
you're having a good time, but you're really not.
Speaker 2 (40:39):
I'm grateful to be here, but it's just taking a
long time to get done.
Speaker 4 (40:43):
Yeah, no, I feel you. It's not. Is there something how? No?
Speaker 1 (40:47):
No listen, no, no, no wait, that's like a double
album for you.
Speaker 4 (40:50):
Yeah, you just so bad?
Speaker 2 (40:57):
No, no, no listen.
Speaker 5 (40:57):
So when I went down the line of people, I
was like, wait, they all like me, so this should
be a good interview A.
Speaker 4 (41:02):
Yeah, we all like you.
Speaker 2 (41:04):
I wasn't sure about you that you're the only one
that was likely know about envy. But no, no, it's
all good energy. I'm having fun though, Like this is
like a conversation you had.
Speaker 4 (41:13):
To see with people before that don't like you, like
you've done that. I don't.
Speaker 2 (41:16):
I don't like them.
Speaker 1 (41:17):
I was going to say, she prayed, she already told
you you want to leave.
Speaker 2 (41:21):
No, it's fine, way, y'all talk a little bit more talk.
Speaker 1 (41:26):
They said, you want the wrap before you leave?
Speaker 4 (41:27):
Oh yeah, please, y'all got to pay me. We got
some cheese steaks. This girl.
Speaker 2 (41:37):
Wait, it was something y'all didn't ask me. No, y'all,
I'm going to tell you job. Y'all me to get out.
Speaker 4 (41:43):
You said you only talk when the music is out.
The music is here, Yeah, the music is out. Listen.
Speaker 5 (41:47):
I'm I'm really proud of When we skipped over this,
we were talking about me listening to my music. I'll
listen to the records like here and there, but when
I when I actually go back, I'm like, yo.
Speaker 2 (41:59):
A lot of it was like mistakes.
Speaker 5 (42:00):
I didn't even mean I got like triple quadruple like
times on that and I'm like, I'm really I was like, yo,
I'm really hot.
Speaker 4 (42:07):
Like that's so, is it like an out of body
experience because it's like you go back and be like, damn,
I ain't need know you ever like you ever.
Speaker 5 (42:15):
Well, I don't know if y'all do this, but since
I make music, I write music, I'll hear a song
and I wish that I wrote it because it's so good.
But like I'm like, damn, you wrote that, like you
get it girl, Like that's like you really better.
Speaker 4 (42:26):
Than you think you are.
Speaker 2 (42:27):
Good bars yeah, yeah, good good bars. Yeah damn. They
really thought it was Lauren. That's great.
Speaker 4 (42:34):
No, that's when I heard it. I caught it and
I was like, it's no way, like no, I caught
what you was doing, what I was doing with the
latest like Lauren, like Lauren Hill being late and the
latest with I can't believe he didn't think of that,
Like you can't even think about the word late and
not think abouts.
Speaker 1 (42:53):
But I thought over the double dre for Lauren Hill
being late and Lauren the only thing the.
Speaker 4 (42:58):
Only reason why I thought because I was like, well
she from Philly and like where Delaware is really close
and excited about everything that's happened when But then now.
Speaker 2 (43:07):
Y'all don't Delaware, y'all be real hyped like y'all.
Speaker 5 (43:09):
Y'all always think somebody like when you talking to y'all,
but like yeah, like Philly won't be on it like
y'all cool, but like y'all ain't like like like Mona
she from Delaware, like she from Philly, but she' from Delaware.
But she's be clearming Delaware more. I need to talking
about that.
Speaker 4 (43:21):
I told him. He was like she from I'm like, no,
she's from Dela. We claim her.
Speaker 1 (43:25):
You still be in the hood, Like yes, yeah, that's why.
Yeah you gun?
Speaker 2 (43:30):
Oh you did that? That was That was a great transition.
Speaker 1 (43:33):
I was.
Speaker 2 (43:35):
Listen. I was a new carrier, and I had it
on me, guys, an honest mistake.
Speaker 1 (43:42):
A license carrier, yes, a license carried bag.
Speaker 5 (43:44):
Yes, studio late night and then I had the flight
the next morning and I'm running with the same bag.
Speaker 2 (43:49):
I didn't swap out bags. And I'm like, oh man, no,
they didn't tackle me.
Speaker 1 (43:53):
No, it was quick.
Speaker 5 (43:54):
It wasn't even like as soon as I put my
bag down and then it was going through. I was like, damn,
I forgot because I was like, my bag is heavy,
but I'm also caring.
Speaker 4 (44:00):
And other stuff like people and think about it.
Speaker 5 (44:02):
Yeah, and then I went it went through and then
they was like, oh, somebody got her. And then they
pulled me to the side and then we went down
and then the guy commissioner person it was like, yo,
you like the fifties second person that happened to.
Speaker 4 (44:14):
This mom soe.
Speaker 5 (44:15):
I was like, yo, it's a honest mistake. But yes,
I went down to like under the what you about
the airport, But it wasn't nothing. It was in there
for like ten minutes and then.
Speaker 4 (44:25):
So you still made your flight, made my flight.
Speaker 1 (44:27):
Yeah, it was get the jail time. You get to
go back and get your gun later.
Speaker 2 (44:32):
Sure, I don't know. I don't want to talk about
guns anymore.
Speaker 1 (44:36):
Okay, it was a new career. Yeah, like geez, I
want to leave now.
Speaker 4 (44:40):
Yeah, you write this note?
Speaker 1 (44:42):
Yeah, like what crazy? That's what you didn't think we
asked you about?
Speaker 4 (44:45):
No, no, no, I didn't know. Oh do you have
do you have a favorite song on the album?
Speaker 2 (44:53):
Favorite song?
Speaker 5 (44:54):
I think it's Siren Siren? Yeah for sure, yea and
got it? I like, got it, gotta thank you, thank you. Yeah, yo,
you know I want to do thank you.
Speaker 2 (45:01):
I love Brazilian.
Speaker 4 (45:02):
I don't know about the brother that you're talking about
in that song. Isn't that the song where you're talking
about your brother that.
Speaker 5 (45:07):
I talk about my brother like almost every song? Yeah, yeah,
my little brother. He's your real brother that you're talking about. Wait, Brazilian, Wax,
what's the what's the line?
Speaker 4 (45:15):
Because my brother turned his back on me and hurt me,
I can't front got to hand it to you. That's
exactly what you want. You're talking to him about how
he didn't have to cross you. Yeah.
Speaker 5 (45:24):
I got a lot of brothers that did that, Wax figures.
It's just like, Yo, you could have just called me.
You got my number, you know, we could talk it through.
Speaker 4 (45:30):
Tell me what you're feeling.
Speaker 2 (45:31):
Yeah yeah yeah no on that one that wasn't my
uh blood brother.
Speaker 1 (45:36):
But yeah, what about it? Before you cut you off,
you said this you want to do.
Speaker 5 (45:40):
I want to do this voice acting, voice acting. I
want to use use my voice so bad. I don't
want to use my voice anymore, like I want to
change it. I want I want to just speak as me.
Speaker 1 (45:48):
I want to one in mind that you hear no see.
Speaker 5 (45:51):
Okay, so the video game shout to Invincible, that's like
that was awesome, but like they was like, yo, just
like talk like you.
Speaker 4 (45:56):
We don't want you to put but you want to
like animate it? Yeah? Animated? Yeah imagine, let's hear it.
What do you want to lately?
Speaker 2 (46:03):
I've been doing this one and I feel like it's
really really good. And if you guys want to just
like you know, give me some jobs, if you know anybody,
then I mean I really don't know what I want
to do, but I mean if I want to do it,
(46:24):
then I'm gonna do with that, you know what I mean?
Speaker 4 (46:28):
What's up?
Speaker 2 (46:28):
How you feeling?
Speaker 4 (46:29):
I'm good?
Speaker 1 (46:30):
Okay, she doesn't get you?
Speaker 4 (46:32):
Are ready for that?
Speaker 1 (46:33):
Was?
Speaker 4 (46:34):
That was good? No?
Speaker 2 (46:36):
Okay, it just depends on I feel like if you
give me a task, I can figure it out.
Speaker 1 (46:41):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (46:41):
I want to be challenged in that.
Speaker 1 (46:42):
Way with down syndrome.
Speaker 4 (46:44):
No, thank you?
Speaker 1 (46:45):
That is.
Speaker 4 (46:48):
Crazy?
Speaker 1 (46:48):
Are you crazy?
Speaker 4 (46:50):
There's no studs with downs ship No for they're gonna
go down to That's great.
Speaker 1 (46:57):
Creative using our imaginations here, creative.
Speaker 4 (47:02):
You know what I just thought of?
Speaker 2 (47:04):
Ruben stuttered? What if he was a study the whole time.
Speaker 1 (47:10):
He look like you do, like a big stuff.
Speaker 2 (47:15):
Stuttered undercover study.
Speaker 4 (47:19):
So good.
Speaker 1 (47:20):
This is crazy. This is my last question. What's more
important to you? Tierra making great music?
Speaker 2 (47:25):
Are the first one?
Speaker 1 (47:27):
Okay? I was just going to say, Are people are
people saying that TIERA expanded, you know, beyond hip hop?
Speaker 2 (47:35):
What?
Speaker 1 (47:36):
What beyond what hip hop could look and sound like?
Speaker 2 (47:38):
Ask it again? Could you whisper it to me?
Speaker 1 (47:43):
What's more important to you? People say your.
Speaker 2 (47:45):
Breath is hitting, it's connecting, it's it's connecting. Just say it,
no change it.
Speaker 1 (47:51):
Just go back to the what's more important to you
that people say Tierra Whack made great music or that
she expanded what people believed hip hop could look and
sound like.
Speaker 5 (47:59):
The second one? That's hard, Yeah, breaking barriers. I want
to be a trailblazer. I want to do things that
have never been done before.
Speaker 1 (48:08):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (48:08):
So that means I gotta break a lot of rules.
Mm hmm yeah. I like breaking rules.
Speaker 1 (48:14):
You're a whack. Ladies and gentlemen. What you want to
have that, let's play something what you want to have that?
Speaker 2 (48:18):
Let's go with Brazilian wax.
Speaker 1 (48:19):
I love a good wax. By the way, I bet
you do. He really gets his legs up in the air.
Speaker 4 (48:26):
They talk about it. He gets he gets all.
Speaker 1 (48:32):
About my breath.
Speaker 4 (48:34):
We tell you that ship sting every day. You don't
never believe. Can you give me in what you could
get him in? Oh no, no no did you? He's
an agent he works for.
Speaker 2 (48:44):
Are we still alive?
Speaker 1 (48:44):
Yes, we're trying.
Speaker 4 (48:45):
To before.
Speaker 6 (48:51):
Around Its dear warning from the subway.
Speaker 1 (49:02):
It's the breakfast club in the morning. Hold up every
day awake, click your glass up the breakfast club.
Speaker 2 (49:11):
You don't finish for y'all.
Speaker 1 (49:12):
Dump
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