It's Up There: feat Karlous Miller

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
You understand I can put anything I want that on you.
That's what I'm saying. So you as a consumer, you're
gonna watch, not consumer as I'm saying, as somebody watching
my platform. If I put eighty five South and number
six and and they even it ain't even came out yet,
you just said I said the hard numbers, the demographics

(00:20):
behind the scenes. Okay, when someone there's value to every viewer,
there's an ad company that wants to sell something to
every person that clicks on the eighty five South podcasting
looking at it in a small I'm looking at it?
How Netflix looking at it? They're selling that data? Bro
does Netflix try to Does Netflix own that content of y'all?

(00:44):
What content that y'all did for them? Did they pay
y'all for it? I might as well enjoy yourself. You
know your can get broke into tonight.

Speaker 2 (00:55):
So will it be on the eighty five Apple? I
guess it's my question.

Speaker 1 (00:58):
At some point give should pay a forty million because
it's saying, listen, we want to own this. We don't
want to play the game where you you know, own it,
and we want to give you forty and we want it.
Is that okay?

Speaker 2 (01:09):
Do you believe that that's what the best was being
reported and giving?

Speaker 1 (01:13):
Hard who would report that? Think about how it work Netflix?
Why would they want to do that? Because they don't
want you to be unreasonable and think it's a forty
million dollar number on a comic without it being ownership
on their side. They don't just pull numbers out and
I got deals everywhere. No, but the way that you
say it, you're gonna mislead people and make them think

(01:36):
that they just tell me what I said. That a
misleads that they gave that man that money. Nah, come on, man,
they know what I'm talking about giving. They don't give
nobody you think that. Yeah, I'm talking about why they
came and offered him forty million dollars. Anybody that's below
that standard don't watch this show. You gotta understand that
that ain't We don't even know if that's the number,

(01:58):
whatever the number is. We know they interested in owning
the content on that platform because I hear comics time
and time again speak to that. Big comics speak to yo.
The reason why the front end is so much is
because they're interested in owning it and not showing the numbers,
not even giving you real data as to what it done.

(02:18):
Then the business side to understand demographics and things. The numbers,
that's what dude, you're not listening. I'm never saying the number.
That's why on YouTube and things, you can't have fake
feels and certain things because they'll they added in this
because they're selling ads against it. So what happens is

(02:41):
Netflix is taking that hard data that they're telling you
as useless. And it's unfortunate that you were just hiring
the business and thinking this data's useless when this data
is so important. You look, you not even hearing hearing
I'm listening. Go ahead, they give what you watching on there,
or they want you to have this account? Who the company?

(03:02):
Hell yeah, you think what you watch? They don't write,
I do it. You can have a Netflix account and
never watch nothing. You don't watch Netflix every day. I
think there's extreme value in what is actually being watched
on Netflix to feel like we win. When I see
black people we're slaves are symbols. No we're not. We

(03:23):
gotta stop thinking like that. No, this is the proof, bro.
We spend all our money in the consumer market. Who
believes why google it? Why because we're slaves? Off symbols.
So what I'm saying is we're slaves to the consumer
market and symbolisms. I don't believe it. Tell me how,
give me, give me something, something indicator that says whatnot?

(03:45):
Because there is no WI. They spend millions of dollars
on weave every every year Black women do. That's their business.
Of course, that's their buiding. But I'm telling you that
they don't need weave. They buy this is fake hair,
horse hairs some of course, But I'm free. Will You
ain't listening to me. You're saying you can't be a
hypocrite on the platform. I ain't a hypocrite. Yes you are,

(04:08):
but you're just said we slaves and you want bought
all them change. I was a hypocrite. I say, y'all,
you said we that mean I'm not a hypocrite. Well
that's what I'm saying everybody that. But what I'm saying,
we that mean I'm not a hypocritic. If I say y'all,
that mean I'm separating from y'all, Well why are you
yelling at them? Who's yelling? But what when you're saying

(04:28):
we are slaves? People can hear anything like what you're
talking about that not But what I'm saying is there
is no way to universally speak for all black people
said that. What I'm saying is like they spend a
billion dollars on weed. I think you do. You got
a phone or good? Yeah, you need to spend some
time on it. If black women stop spending money on weed,

(04:51):
what would happen? Well? Nothing, if they have no direction
with what to do, and if and if us as
black men don't accept them with their natural help. Okay,
so if black men this is an overall problem. Again,
we are slaves. This rooky Now niggas want tone me
to death exactly, my man, Lord, both loans, old loan,
new loom. Okay, okay, it's up there and stuck that

(05:17):
nigga when it's up there, Man, it's stuck there. Shut up.
But y'all don't give that. Y'all give take care of
the budding. And then these dudes, they all is ty coon.
So you know me, if I'm not careful, this could
slip away, you know, So I gotta be. You know,

(05:38):
I'm I'm I'm paying attention because I got all these deals. Bro,
you gotta think I don't even got a co host
I got the same deal as anybody else got with
the same ad companies. I got it all. I got
audio deals, video deals, Patreon deal, I got a prize picks.
I got the same things across the board, right, So

(05:58):
I gotta maintain that all that without even a co host.
So my intensity is through the rule. Yeah, and that's
why we're finna talk about just the whole them together,
all of that then hit him solo. It's like, Bro,
you gotta for me. I'm out on the island with this,
like trying to figure it out. Which is working. I'm

(06:20):
doing well, bro, and every every aspect of this. But
I'm cognizant that, like now we're talking about your boy.
What's up? G Look Jeremiah Phillip eighteen months ago, popping, popping, popping.
I gotta keep having good conversations like this one, like

(06:43):
when I sit with fifty cent, Like when I see
with all these I got to have these got to
be I mean, you've been talking to fifty now.

Speaker 2 (06:51):
I got him on the calendar.

Speaker 1 (06:53):
Oh okay, yeah, I got him on the calendar. Nothing.
I ain't holler at fifty Yeah. Yeah. I had brief
inactions with him. He came to a couple of shows.
I know he he gave most definitely got to you
gotta come in here and talk with us. I hope
we get the right version of I got a lot

(07:13):
of them now when they get fit there on the show,
they be wanting to hear the business man. I need
to hear that from from the street because his street
knowledge just as good as the business side. Like they
want to talk. They used to you know them little
clips he used to drop on world stuff like see
you know what's wrong with you? You need to always
be waiting on do something's wrong with you? Cronasce man,

(07:36):
you got two legs and two like that type of ship.
Like they might not choose the best words, but I
find the motivation and inspiration and all types of like
just move from the culture bro with that moment at
the end of one of them, I think it's the
hay Mam video, Jim Jones just come out in the
full linked first reaching the coat pocket, pull out big

(07:59):
water money like as a young turned me up really
with my with my psychology or how I wanted this
to go, Like oh you could be and still get
that paper bird man man like all that. I like
none that I'm grown and I look back all that
stunned that he did in them rhymes. That was a

(08:19):
specific version, like that's tailor for me, Like you don't
have to do it like a rapper do it, but
the mother that's trying to inspire you to get some more.
You really got to be able to take the message
from there. You still love to see ship like that.
I love when Sexy Red be out and then she
pulled her stacks out. You get what I'm like, Most
people think she's just being ignorant, but you think, like

(08:43):
when you know what that what she's doing, she knows
how she's really talking to people who don't have that platform.
And I don't mean to say that she's ignorant. I'm
just saying, you know.

Speaker 2 (08:52):
That's the perception, right right, Yeah, but no, we relate
to that.

Speaker 1 (08:56):
That turned us up, like I got to see it
something man out the talk and all that motherfuckers be
wanting to see. Okay, I did this and I got that.
What I'm saying, you just got it. And with fifty man,
I think he's valuable asset to the culture for real,
for real, Like yeah, yeah, he's valued. Yeah that nigga man,

(09:17):
I'm talking about he go to talking and it's like, oh,
his impact was crazy when he came out, and it's
just the whole allure of him being shot that many
times people just wanted to hear what he had, like
he was gonna drop a message from the side, you know, yeah, yeah, yeah,
it was a hell he had a then he played

(09:37):
into a bulletproof vest. He didn't let us down.

Speaker 2 (09:39):
Yet he showed like he ain't went out bad one.

Speaker 1 (09:42):
He ain't let us down here even the public ship.
You know, that be considered like business flops of failures,
but it's like that's just part of the game, and
he's still up. He ain't win our bad you know
what I'm saying. Yeah, Nah, he and to had win
against giants. Yeah, because he challenged Jade and them still
of this day did it. I ain't the man he

(10:04):
fought for that spot because he saw he was like,
y'all just gonna let two niggas get money. I'm gonna
get I'm gonna get a bit without them niggas, Right,
that's the important part. I'm gonna do it without them niggas,
and I'm gonna do it in a different way than them.
There Like, just think about that, because coming through rap
saying fuck jay Z is like pissing where you live at. Yeah,

(10:25):
you can't come and be challenging jay Z. And did
it and in New York and against murder, ain't at
the time like he come through that. He fought for
what he got. He did that poor fall for what
he and he he stood on it. And like he said,
he ain't let a nigga down. Want he ain't let
us down. Ain't nobody took nothing from ain't nobody He
went one. Ain't that crazy? He might be the only

(10:49):
rap nigga that doesn't kick that high level gangster ship. Like, Nah,
you can't say that because then there's too many that
you'll be an overlook that done went that far that
they ain't went out bad man, give me some mold ship.
Oh Holding kicked that high level gangster talk though he
did that. I've been shot, nigga. I'm ready to die. Nigga.

(11:11):
Look if it's beefcocking and dump it. The drummer really
mean nothing to me? I rapped by and throw your
brains out. How much murder Murder got, how much ship
Holding rapped about? Right? And think about just how much
ship you done learned about his life over the years.
That you know is the fact that you you know
what I'm saying, like he don't shot away from it.
But think of how much he ain't never spoke of him, right,

(11:34):
But that makes it different because Fifty coming out saying,
I shoot up your mama house, nigga and make your
gass look for me, like he ain't talking about hustling
at this time. He was straight grimming on some I'm
talking about that level of gangster ship. Bro, when a
nigga coming saying, if it's beef what he says, but

(11:55):
it's not your character that he created. He used to
he he played that yeah ship. But then though usually
we catch the rap nigga, they kicked that kind of ship,
they done call them and kicked them in the ass
somewhere down in his career. Well, you didn't got somebody
in a beat on him, like even sugar, after so long,

(12:16):
you're getting knocked out after so long, like you gotta
keep it, like, I don't think you can only look
at ship like that type of ship one way though,
Like Nigga the baddest motherfucker's didn't got knocked out.

Speaker 2 (12:30):
And I'm not saying that.

Speaker 1 (12:31):
I don't mean that.

Speaker 2 (12:33):
When I'm staying knocked out, I mean d thrown.

Speaker 1 (12:35):
And when we say fifty never went out bad, we're
not even talking about took a loss. We spoke to
him having bankruptcies and things like that. That's business, right,
but them can be considered losses to people who don't
have the vision that we have to understand where he's at.
When I'm from the outside looking right, people want to
understand how you protect your business assets exactly like that.

(12:56):
It ain't like that's a failure. That's just how you
protect them money and ship you already got. But what
I'm saying is he hasn't been dethrown at least That's
what I mean when I say he never went out bad,
that's what he went But I'm saying most niggas they
at some point, like Sugar, when I say he was
knocked out, it ain't because he lost a fight. I'm
saying the atmosphere around Shug changed to where he was

(13:19):
now de thrown from that scary. He's still Shug Knight.

Speaker 2 (13:23):
He's still Sugar Knight, but not that scariest. They knocking
they stay hitting on him.

Speaker 1 (13:29):
Color I know it. But if niggas, they wouldn't that
hit Sugar in the nineties broyed Sugar had stole. Yeah
he had. I'm talking about catching down there at the
club and try to knock him out, shoot him, have
him up here the thing where he running niggas over
trying to get away, like, bro, Like, what do you

(13:51):
think happened in Las Vegas? They was trying to kill
him too. No, he come up there to try to
bargain to get in on the wold saying I'm talking
about the Knight park Hill. They were gonna kill him too.
They were shot at the car. They wouldn't aiming at
one person too, but then got hit up a lot
of times. That's a direct Violett. That's what I'm telling you.
That's what I'm saying, right. But for a minute, No,

(14:13):
that's just that's just playing the game. Like, ain't nobody
gonna just let you bully them and not do nothing back.
But if you in the game ain't been dethrowned, he's
been bullied. He ain't just walked around and slap motherfuckers.
They didn't have fight it untok their money from him.
That's worse. If I were young.

Speaker 2 (14:30):
I have probably tried to kill that nigga.

Speaker 1 (14:32):
But you don't you make you feel me that just
took me. It's from me versus slapping me. That's only
watching that ship from the fan point of view. I
didn't think about it. From the business I don't. I'm
not defending either, sad right, what I'm saying. What I'm
saying is if you're in the business side him, he
didn't take ship. I can't say that he took nothing.

(14:55):
But what I'm saying is eighty five South. You know
how much of an arch in it I am near?
You what these people? If I signed you the eighty
five celth Yeah, and shit didn't work out, and I
still continue to make millions of dollars like they did
at g Unit. You can leave here and say they
fucked my money up. They took my money because they

(15:17):
still got it. Nigga, We had the money before we
got to see So if you come over here and
your shit don't work out, that don't mean that I
took nothing from you. That just mean you wasn't able
to use the infrastructure that I created to create this money.
This is revisional on his business side. Nah, this revision
is history. You know too much about hip hop, dude,

(15:39):
I know you're a hip hop listen, young buck and
fifty cent situation in particular, fifty was putting it out
to ruin him his career. He would kept on that's
what fifty do. He used his platform to say he
embarrasses you. He like he puts stuff out to diminish
your value in the marketplace, and that to me is

(16:00):
worse than us fighting. I can take a fight from it.
Hey man, I don't know, but to make me go
from selling two hundred thousand my first week to twenty
five hundred my first week, you done crash my company.
Nobody should be able to do that. Well, everything in
this business is on perception, especially with a rapper. Not
for y'all and not for me. We hard numbers and

(16:20):
listens and things like that. With rappers, they live on perception.
So once we view you as not the guy that
we thought you were, it affixed.

Speaker 2 (16:30):
It affixed the business, all right.

Speaker 1 (16:32):
So this is the argument that I've been hearing from
the fifty cents that if you came out and you
went platinum, and you sold all these records, right, and
you tied up on the business side. When you when
you successful, you want all the credit for your success.
You got to take the same credit when you're not successful,
or when you stumble, or when you fail or when

(16:54):
you flop. It can't be Oh, I did this shit
by myself. When you come out in your first G
unit debut, you sell a million, right, and then when
you come out and say fuck them, and then you
sell twenty five hundred copies. But that's the area that's
nobody's fault. But but the arrogance of men and the crowd. See,

(17:16):
sometimes the crowd will make you thank you bigger than
you are. You could deal with the crowd saying, Yo,
you don't need them, nigga. Man, why you be with
them nigga? Yo? Bro, you how nigga eighty five sided
nigga to get the man? You don't got to be
on tour with them, nigga, call it go by yourself. Bro.
You you don't need them, nigga. But you an old
g veteran. It don't affect you. But we talking about
a young nigga come out of because see here's the thing.

(17:39):
Even when I see it with fitted, we're not talking
about young bump, right, No, this is just a hyper Yeah,
but it's but it's just a situation for me and
you because I think it's so much information just in
that altercation between the two. You know what I'm saying
from a being the perspective, It's like, Yo, I believe
him had crashed his company. I believe him to had

(17:59):
literally a fted how the marketplace views this guy along
with what he's done. But I think fifty was hammering
it down. No, but you got to keep in mind
this I think fifties argument from the way I hear
it from interviews, in the way that he was like
disputed the claims or whatever. I'm not defending nobody. I'm
just telling you what I hear on both sides. I'm

(18:22):
hearing that he says, Hey, if I gave you an opportunity,
and I'm telling you, I'm taking you where I'm going
get You're meeting the Vitamin Water people, you meeting the
Reebok people, you know, the Louis Viton people out and
took you to the Nike people. You mean to tell
me you ain't had no hustle about yourself where you
couldn't create no more lanes. Exactly, I got these clothes

(18:43):
you ain't put you ain't. You ain't trying to jump
in and throw nothing on or wear none in the video.
I got this liquor. You wanna drink this other liquor
for free? You ain't trying to. You're not making yourself
an asset. I got all these avenues where you can
get paid, and all you want to do is wrap
you not on social media. You ain't out here trying
to help sell no tickets. You just leaning on me

(19:05):
to pay you. That would be the argument, right, And
I agree with fit the that and you feel what
I'm saying, because the truth for the matter is is this.
I think that's the thing he wanted them. He wanted
all the artists that didn't find success over there on
his platform to create more revenues for themselves. You got

(19:29):
the light. You're with the hottest nigga in the game.
You're supposed to be able to parlay that into other
opportunities for yourself. You should be able to like if
I'm putting you on this platform, right, you talented. I
believe in your talent. I fuck with your raps. If
you got a hit and you want me on it,
I'm gonna get on it. But until you bring me something,
I can't just get on bullshit because I'm your homeboy.

(19:50):
Bring me some shit that could be a hit. Now, now,
let's make some money, because you know, hit records make
money when motherfuckers make something that that's going, when it's vie,
when it's a hit, when you're trending, that's what people want.
You're supposed to be able to use the resources to
make that. So if you don't take advantage of the resources.
And I'm out here getting up every day, I'm in

(20:11):
the office, I'm in the studio, I'm working on music,
I'm calling I'm calling people for you setting up shit,
and you ain't showing up. And I'm spending the money
you on my dime. But every time I go and
some shit go for me, you're supposed to get something.
Because I got something. We're still working right, work right.
I'm with you on that. And also here's the thing, though,

(20:31):
when I examine the rapper that've usually come from a
low income environment, I usually see them go and get
with someone like a fifty cent or getting this industry,
and then they double back and their first objective is
to shine on the hood. This is the thing. This
is the thing as an artist. That's the price you

(20:53):
pay for having to go through another artist. If an
artist came up and they grinded, they shop up and
they got their own record label situation, it's not their
responsibility to go and put you on. This is a business. Yes,
they looking for people who we can market, who we
can make money off of right now or in the
next few years. You got telling you just a little

(21:16):
rough around the edges. You just need to be in
a real studio, You need to be around some business.
I'm gonna try to take you out the hood. But
as soon as you put that money in their pocket,
they go right back to the hood. Ain't no no
return on investment. Because what happens is, at least what
I think is that they try to show the hood
that I'm no longer like y'all go back and say

(21:38):
we made it, we made it. Might be we made it,
but at the same time, like if it's we made it,
why you keep pulling up in the bend thet don't
nobody else got nothing? Or you keep pulling up in
the roads the same way that you don't have no
responsibility to make sure so else everybody is grown. So

(21:58):
we ain't done nothing. But it's not necessarily we. That's
what I mean. Somebody from right here who had the
same opportunities as you. I got up every day with you,
I went to school with you. Every day you said
beside me, I spend the night on your grandma. How
we ate the same food, We spent the same summers
in this regular motherfucker. You had the same opportunity that
I had. Yes, so if I got if, I'm if

(22:22):
success to me looked like a Bentley. Why should I
buy suburban so you can have some? But that's why
it don't look like we when they come back. So
when they come back, it looked like I made it,
not we made it. So when they show up with
the I made it talk, what happens is, nigga, they
become a target. Now I try to keep myself as

(22:43):
a target. When you left, of course, it ain't about
what you came back with. Yeah it is. No, it's
nothing you could. You can't be a target. Frame to
be a target though. Soon as you left the hood,
your reach though, No, you're not the people still right there.
You gonna come home eventually, That's true. When you left,

(23:05):
whether you left on good terms in your hood of tha?
Are you better than us because you left? I think
you the ship because you move to such and such?
Are you want to you want to ruck with us?
No more. That's true. Whether you got it or not,
that's true. That's true. Your people still there, do you

(23:27):
know what I many of them guys go to the league,
or go get that wrap money, or go get that
business real estate money, and go back and say, Mama,
we made it. I'm finna move you out of here.
She looking right in the face, saying, no the fuck
you ain't, because I ain't going nowhere. I don't know
nothing else. It ain't. I ain't never wanted this the
house I wanted. I raised my kids here. This is

(23:50):
it for me. I ain't going nowhere. There's plenty of
people who don't, never want to, whose parents don't want
to move out that house. Yeah, that's true, granted is
in all so sometimes even if your money right, you
can't move your people because they don't want to move.
That's the thing. Granted, don't want to move. Sometimes I
want that big I don't want to do all that. Yeah,

(24:10):
you know what I'm saying, I'm gonna do it for
you granted, I'm gonna get you. I don't want to that.
I don't want all that. You definitely got that vibe
out them. It's a lot of people like that who don't.
Who even if they hit that lick, they not leaving
the hood, leaving whatever they plan. That's crazy, But it

(24:31):
makes sense too because I know them people. I know
them people, man, but see they as a rapper. It's
a little different, bro, because even the O g rappers
like boosts to say, yo, get that money, get from
down now. Because even if your intentions is pure, the
circumstances is rare. Man. You don't put yourself amongst kings, man,

(24:54):
and you just don't drink beer around wine sippers. Man.
That's the thing about it. You don't even have to
be a rapper. Look at it on the smaller scale.
You could just be a nigga work for the city,
whoever saturdays when he ain't at work, or you know,
you like to fix a car, you like to go
to the car show, take your dog out, let the

(25:14):
kids run around, throw a little something on the grill,
put your chain on, put your put your you know
what I'm saying, put your ship on, put your outfit
on be yourself just because youre a nigga with a
clean air call on the east side, Do you not
understand it's some more niggas on the east Side that
hate you for that, of course. But what I'm saying

(25:35):
is you're gonna have it. You're gonna head on face.
The leaving, Paul, you don't have enemies no matter what
it is you're doing in life or where it is
you stay. But the coming back, Paul bro the leaving
and going to get something that they feel like they
can't attained and they're coming back. I don't know. It's
a little rough, you know, motherfucker. Some motherfuckers is just

(25:57):
natural born hater facts that see it. That's literally what
they put here to do. They it's just it's internal. Yeah,
it's that hate come from deep down inside. No matter
what what they got going on, they ain't never gonna
like what the next person doing. Ship same way. Mother

(26:18):
fucking killed CoA cheese man, cool it hot just because
he was about to go to school and he was
that nigga bro brouh. That's how it be fucked up
out here. But you need it, that's the balance. That's
a fact, man. That's that's that's the opposite side of
this ship. You're gonna get a whole lot of love,

(26:39):
but even if you get a little bit of hate,
it's gonna still be heavy. It's gonna be heavy, man,
that that hate. But you need that that fuel to
keep going. And knowing that you ain't perfect get will
you ever be? Though? Nah? So are you striving for
it knowing you won't be it? Nah? I mean, I
think you have to try to strive to be perfect,

(27:01):
so even when you fall short, you at least try
it hard enough to be a good person. You know
what I'm saying. Yea, Like, you'll never be perfect, but
you can be good, right, You can definitely be a
good person or a great person, excellent. She'll never be
perfect because God made us imperfect. You can never The
most you could be is a ninety nine. You'll never

(27:22):
be one hundred. Right. Yeah, welcome this up there podcast.
I go by Big Loan, your active and attractive hosts. Man,
we already been rolling, but I do want to introduce
the podcast today. I got a tycoon in the comedian space,
a ty coon in the podcast content space. An actor.

(27:44):
The guy is all over the place and killing shit.
I got Colos Miller, what's going on. I appreciate going
onciate you. I appreciate you having me. It's always always dope,
the chop it up which and go back and have
verbal combat and shit. Yeah, I love it, bro. Yeah,
you one of the only guys that I'd be like, yo,

(28:07):
br got those ideas like me, like where it's like, Yo,
you done thought about a number of things, most definitely,
And I find that in people that do comedy a lot.
You know what I'm saying. I find that people that
in comedy, at least the people I bump into and
then I've studied, they have a lot of thoughts and
opinions on things. Yeah, because comedy will changed your brain chemistry,

(28:28):
the way that you think about things, and then you
just once you learn how to like start filtering life
real life through like your creative process, you look at
everything different. I don't even know if that makes sense
to people who don't do that, but you know what
I mean, it's just like creative people the way you
see things, like artists look at life different, like people

(28:52):
who can paint, people who can draw, or you know
what I'm saying, people who do stuff with their hands
who can build shit, They just have a different little
level that they could take shit, like people who could
do math in their head. They could just take it
to another level of that regular people don't. And once
you start looking for the humor, even in the worst situations,
it's just changed your whole perspective on shit. I have

(29:15):
so many and like you spend your time just having,
like you said, your own thoughts and being in your
own world, so just having your own opinion when something
pop up. Yeah, I always like to wait and just
see what happened first, because I love to go back
to the you know how, like when it be some
shit and they be like, man, it's hysterio or like
somebody trending or some shit or whatever the situation is.

(29:36):
I always like to be like, oh, look, old, look,
don't say nothing yet. Wait wait, wait, because it's always
gonna be that's when the most ridiculous stuff come out.
And because remember when COVID came out there it was like,
you know, black people can't get this shit, Like what Yeah,
I love that part, bro. I do that on purpose, right,
So with like pop culture, I have a side of

(29:58):
the podcast I do with no guess it's just me
in the camera. Yeah, you need shit like that. And
so when I do that, I talk about topics, but
I always wait because I don't even want to be
involved in the clickbait shit. I don't want to be
and then I want to have an opinion that's like
formatting on it. I don't want to be swayed by
what everybody's saying right now, because when you listen to

(30:20):
these opinions come out, they usually along the same lines.
When stuff like that happens, it's like everybody's kind of
saying the same thing. It's just he dropped his partcast
on Monday, he dropped Tuesday. They all saying the same
fucking thing. But you know what's crazy is, though, like
as you get deeper into the industry or the entertainment world,
it ain't until one of those stories pop out that

(30:42):
you really know what really happened to make you look
at all that shit totally different, you know what I'm saying.
It's like when some shit come out and it's something
that's close to somebody that you know, or people that's involved,
or things that you heard about prior to it coming out,
you're like, why it's coming out? Now it's old. This happened.
Damn this shit old right, Damn that ain't what happened. Right,

(31:04):
then you be like, oh, they gotta they gotta put
some sauce on it, in it. Yeah, it's ridiculous and
it's fucked up that that's the way that we have
to be entertained. And I think it's like that ship.
That type of shit is okay and it's acceptable, but
it can't be our source of real news exactly. Our
entertainment can't be our news. But they've got it mistaken

(31:26):
because they don't understand. See, we went from we think
that just get informed. We don't understand what misinformed on
a lot of stuff because they think it's better than
having no information or disinformed. Right. We're told that you
dumb if you don't know nothing, so just tell me something. Yeah,

(31:46):
And like I said, that can't be our entertainment, can't
be our news, right because it's just like having vegetables
on the plate. We might not always like it, but
we need to hear real ships facts. We don't need
to just hear the sauce, right, We need to hit
the real shit so we can really make honest opinions
about how we move forward as a culture, as a people,

(32:07):
as a race. How can we prevent some shit from
happening if we just keep getting the hyped up, sensationalized version,
like give us the whole facts of this shit? And
you know what, That's why when I had these conversations
on the part, I like to just have conversations. I
don't like and I don't talk to people who certain
people that are asked me, yo, what what's the questions

(32:27):
or something like that, I don't even talk to them. Yeah,
I don't really like. I think that's one thing that's
getting overlooked. We don't do a lot of interviews, right.
Sometimes we just want to have real life, organic conversations.
And sometimes you can when it's somebody you're a fan
of and you got interview type questions or you know,
shit that you always wanted to ask him. You're asking,
but it ain't like you gotta so tell me how

(32:48):
we're we're you know what I mean?

Speaker 2 (32:49):
Unanswered question? Yeah, things that hasn't been answered yet.

Speaker 1 (32:53):
But to bring somebody in and like, so, how did
you yo, that's not what we are? How did you
start the Yeah, come on, bro's so much what we're doing.
We're too unique for that with sometimes you need to
do that. So because you you're on different platforms and
they have different audiences and you can be you do
have to be introduced to ship. But but but but

(33:15):
we do introduce it, but it's not the layered introduction
the way they do it. So how does it do it?
So how did you do this? So how did you
It's like it's a it's an overarching introduction of what
we're talking about and then we dig into whatever we're
talking about it on it. But you answered a lot
of these questions that that people ask over and over

(33:35):
about some of these things. I mean, of course, yeah,
but I think podcasting is at least on this side,
I try to bring something what we just have a
natural conversation. And but you had a lot of good
gifts on there. You was getting you was going back
and forth with doctor Umar and shit got it got
some intense moments. That was a government. That's hard man.

(33:58):
Keep doing your thing, bro, Yeah, now we building. I
love to see different outlets. I love to see different
interviews and you know, just get different perspectives. When I'm
at the crib and I'm just chilling, I click on
everybody shit just to see I know you you consume
a lot, man, Yeah, you know all the rap niggas
that come in up you be knowing shit. Bro. I'm
still a fan of the other culture of you know

(34:20):
what I'm saying. I get to look at the ship
as a grown ass man now, right and religious, you know, like, okay,
I see what they're doing, right, see what they're doing. Yeah,
does some things. Yeah, I think that doctor Umar wan Man.

Speaker 2 (34:31):
For me, it kind of changed.

Speaker 1 (34:34):
How I look at things now because I said, oh,
what you mean with the content world, right, there's niches,
there's things that only certain people can do well, you know.
And I think if I can polish my live show,
because that was a live show, that was a sold
out live show, yeah, with me and him, and I

(34:55):
think if I can polish that and do that, right,
I think that it's something there, you know what I mean.
I just think I and I saw a lot of
people adopt that, you know, adopt certain elements of even
that conversation and reference that conversation when they speak with
Umar that booked him after that, Like a lot of

(35:17):
people referenced that, like yo, Man, I saw you on
and man, y'all were talking about Dion and they got
to do an interview with him. I wouldn't even say shit,
I just let him talk here you go. I would.
I just I would. He could literally just come on
my platform and just talk. I ain't got shit to
ask him.

Speaker 2 (35:35):
Yeah, I think, and I changed how people dealing with him.

Speaker 1 (35:38):
Now people are now doing a versus thing with him,
and I don't really like that because I didn't do
a If you listen to that conversation, we really had
some like I tried to get him to explain a
little more. He was right making his points, but I
want to dig into that. Why is that? Why you
think that? Why do you think somebody would do that?
And for me, I just think it added to that.

(35:59):
Well that that's kind of that. I can see how
that could be. Uh, that could be frustrating. I guess. Yeah,
if you keep asking a nigga, why ask me? Why?
N Now he respect He respects me too much for
that though. Listen, you gotta think that's his fifth time
coming on my show. He the only person that came

(36:21):
that much, and he hit me balls. Yeah, that's a
big part. That's hey man, that's dope. But but you know,
what I'm saying is that there's just respect that so
he knew that. Yo. I was trying to get him
to explain to his audience some of those things, like

(36:42):
we got the next one that come out next week,
and so we're going we get intense about some things
that now has come out that I was right about
because I told him that you did you see the
girl that and it'll probably be out by the time
it's come out, but did you see the girl that
had the big knot on the face and said a
dude asked for my number and they didn't give it

(37:04):
to me and these black men let me get the
brick lady. Yeah, you know he went crazed on black
men about that. You kle with stupid mother, But think
about it, that's one off situation. She did ass wrong
for that. But this nigga's out there that'd be actually
that probably needed to hear that. And that's what he
was saying. That's it, That's what he was. That's what

(37:24):
I'm saying. And you don't get Yeah, I said, damn,
you give grace to the black woman in this conversation.
You give grace to I said, what do you say
to the black men that say you're too hard. You
don't give any grace to them, even in situations where
you're wrong about this girl saying black men didn't defend

(37:44):
her when this is an allergic reaction, and he was
just like, well, I'm not going to retract it because
they need to hear that. And they's still a valiant point,
but it's like one is directed at that at one
particular incident that's that's false. Then it just loses valid right,
and I think, do great. It's gonna do great on YouTube.

(38:06):
Because we go back and forth. He get heated, he
telling me because I'm saying, yo, why black men gotta
be blame for everything? You know, because that's our role
to be blame for everything. That's a role that was
given to us that we would never ask for. That's
just part of it. As one of the drawbacks of
being a black man. It comes with it. We always

(38:30):
gonna be at fault because think about it, what have
niggas ever done to anybody but each other? Thank you? Niggas.
Don't do nothing be for that's that's that's abuse. The violence.
It's transferred. It's just a transferred violence. That's it. Even

(38:50):
that ain't a niggas fault. When when you deal with Netflix?
What was that about? Did y'all have to audition? How
do you get a deal with Netflix? How does that happen?
What do you mean a deal? How do you get
a content licensing deal? Who do you mean with Netflix? Like,
I'm sure they licensed y'all content or did they buy

(39:13):
that purchase that piece of content? I guess I'm asking
what happened with your Netflix situation? Man? Just doing those
live shows? Just like if you think about what we
do when we go out and we record these live
shows and we put them out on the platform, Bro,
we really producing and dropping a special every week. Why

(39:33):
not link with the biggest platform that does that. It's
just a natural progression, you know what I'm saying. They
saw what we were doing. They send their team out, They
send some people out, some people get on some phone
calls back and forth. It's a few lunches, it's a
few emails. It's a process. It ain't just like they

(39:57):
show up with the paperwork you get, know what I'm saying.
It takes years to close the deal like that almost
definitely ain't violent. We got d C and the building. Yeah,
but Yeah, that's that's It takes years to make some
ship like that, at least a year or two just

(40:18):
to make sure that the business is right and everybody's
gonna be satisfied with the terms and conditions right, things
of that nature. So big shout out to the whole
department over there in Netflix, man, especially anybody that got
something to do with the black people content on that
app that department, whatever department there, for sure, because y'all
don't get enough credit, for sure, for sure to try

(40:39):
to even hold that up and hold that down over there,
because they can whitewash that if they want. For the
most part, just hearing that the people that own Fox
own To broke my heart. We're gonna talk about that
in a little bit. They didn't even all the way,
but a little bit, ain't you get it? Yeah, we
can get in. It's kind of like finding out chick
that you you've been knocking off used to talk to

(41:00):
one of your partners. I ain't no, you know, you
got their background checks on people, right, but you know,
but even that even that anyway, any anytime, even if
they even if it's that they still letting niggas go
over there and do their thing. I don't want to
say that doing anything, yeah, but not letting. I think

(41:23):
they're using that as like they use us to get
the wheels on it, to get the car rolling, and
then in a minute, this this is how we can
count that. We gotta use that to get to the
next step. We can't just let that be it. Then,
if that's the attitude behind it, we need to be

(41:43):
working on an exit strategy right now. Then if that's
the emotion behind it, we either love it or we
hate it, because if we step it as we love it,
it's gonna blow. But if we ain't fucking with it,
it needs to be said out us. They know how
to trick us. We can't allow. We can't allow. Guess
how they trick us though, and centivize us with a

(42:06):
little paper boy. That's how Trump got us. That's how
they all get us. Trump didn't get us what he
didn't get us. What you think he got us? What
he got the niggas that wanted to be got. No,
he got THEA ain't talking about I'm talking about. He
ain't getting black people as a whole. For the most part,

(42:27):
they're not paying close attention. He didn't get me with
the passage. What if they are though, What if that's
the real what if they are paying the information? Don't
say that we're not collective. We don't work together about nothing.
You know what I'm saying, Fuck around and try to
pass some ship that sneak fucking around, then actually work

(42:48):
for the benefit of people he don't even fuck with.
Of course you get know what I'm saying. I don't know,
but but we just went to look at what he
does as who he is. He he he a crook too. Yeah,
of course, now what I'm saying, he got That's why
I say he got us. I ain't said he did
nothing that was upstanding. This is the thing about love

(43:11):
a villain, and we love to feel like winning. I
don't want it to sound like I fucked with him.
It's some people we love to feel like we winning.
I feel like he just even if we're not winning,
though he do so much bad ship that they are
driving old Mercedes, a Nigga driver, old Mercedes for the
fact that it's a Mercedes. We love to just feel

(43:33):
like it's a win. It don't even matter, bro. So
what are you saying that black people set no no
I Secedes? Yeah, of course, But I'm talking it's just
the one he wanted. No, no, no, I ain't talking
about him. I'm talking about the guy that drives it
when his money could have got him a new, reliable vehicle.
He could have you call to make it ain't my call,

(43:56):
but it's a responsible call to make. No, it's nothing.
If he's driving that car, that's his business. But he's
forcing it. He's acting like he's driving the like I
know niggas that will put the keys out on they on,
they hang the keys out over they third. A minute.
You overlooking something very understand you looking at it like

(44:17):
an old car. The nigga who owned the car that
might be his motherfucking one, that might be the one
that he wants. Yeah, and I'm not just millions of
dollars in. You don't see me in this mother You
bring ninety one cutless, Yeah, nigga, I fucked with ninety
one cutlass. This one. I'm talking about specific guy. I

(44:41):
ain't talking about the guy who. So we gotta have
context of our conversation. Let's bag up a little bit,
because we unpacked a lot of things we talked about
to b in by five seconds right there, we talked
about to be doctor Ouhmar and a few other things.

(45:01):
Shut out the doctor, shut out to doctor Umar. Ever,
put some respect on what I'm saying. All I'm saying
is all I'm saying is we like to feel like
we win when I see black people we're slaves as symbols.
No we're not. We gotta stop thinking like that. No,
this is the proof, bro. We spend all our money
in the consumer market. Who believes why google it? Why

(45:25):
because we're slaves of symbols. We're going to get Nike,
we go get Mercedes, we go get all these were slaves.
Then what then? We put our money back in the community.
We buy houses, we buy hospitals. Do that builds the
community up. The money still has to be spent, but
it builds our own community. It circulates to our community.

(45:46):
We take all the money we make and go spend
it on things we don't own, that aren't like just
bullshit is owned by other people. So what I'm saying
is we're slaves to the consumer market and symbolisms. I
don't believe that. Tell me how give me give me
something something indicator that says whatnot because there is no
wei they spend billions of dollars on weave every every year.

(46:08):
Black women do. That's their business. Of course, that's their budding.
But I'm telling you that they don't need weave. They
buy this is fake hair, horse hairs, some boys what
they want, of course, but I'm free. Will You ain't
listening to me. You're saying, okay, So I'm saying we're
slaves to the consumer market with why we spending our

(46:28):
money in a way, because we live in a capitalistic society.
If you don't spend it, it's worthless. Why do we
spend it in the way that we do because niggas
the same way you do. Look at you, a nigga,
gonna watch this man got chain. That's what I'm saying.
Why ain't no better? Why you ain't if that's in
the black community. Now I've in you can't be a
hypocrite on the platform. I ain't a hypocrite. Yes you are,

(46:51):
but you're just saying we slaves and you want bought
all them change. I was a hypocrite, I say, y'all,
you said we that mean I'm not a hypocrite. Well
that's what I'm saying everybody that. But what I'm saying
we That mean I'm not a hrep creative. I say, y'all,
that means I'm separating from y'all. I'm saying we I
got a Mercedes. I'm a slave to this same ship.

(47:12):
I wear the ship. Those are choices that you made.
You could have easily not made them. Of course you're
gonna fuck some of this money off, That's what I'm
telling you. Well, why are you yelling at them? Who's yelling?
But what when you're saying we are slaves? People gonna
hear anything, like, what the fuck is you talking about that?
We're not claiming that. Anybody hears that and say and
says that that wastemen? What wastemen? No, we don't use

(47:36):
those terms in America.

Speaker 2 (47:38):
We're in America right now.

Speaker 1 (47:39):
Just wastemen. Yeah, I'm listening to Drake. I don't say that.
I look like he's a waistman, nigga work for the
garbage company. No, he's a waste man. That's my word.
But what I'm saying is there is no way to
universally speak for all blacks. Said that. What I'm saying
is like, you can't they spend a billion dollars on

(48:02):
weied I think you do. You got a phone or Google? Yeah,
you need to spend some time on it, because if
by the numbers you district, we can't keep using the
same arguments for the last thirty years. Who is I
ain't never saying this. Struck made a whole movie called
good Head and said that now it's a billion trillion dollars.
I never whatever black women spend on their hair. Do

(48:25):
you understand that white people outnumber Black people in America?
Like six or six to thirteen or one or some
shit we wave? Fuck, we are just the fuck they
do not that black. Yes, they do. If it's if
they outnumber us by that man, that means that it's
stuck in. White women buy more ten times more white

(48:46):
women in America bying weave than Black women. Yes, I
believe it's saying period. By numbers of people, Yes, by
volume alone, we are still in last place.

Speaker 2 (48:56):
What we're talking about, we're talking about you know.

Speaker 1 (48:59):
Okay, let's play let's play the Devil's Advocate. Long. What
would happen if black women stop spending money on we
What would happen? Well? Nothing, if they have no direction
with what to do, and if and if us as
black men don't accept them with their natural heir. Okay,
so if black men the overall problem again, we are slaves,
this is okay, this is free will Yeah, but a

(49:22):
lot of dudes want to see they women with the
They don't want to what the her natural heir? They'll
tell it, Go get a hair done. We can't ignore this.
What are you doing? Are you playing some game? Were
you ignoring these things? No? I just think that these
arguments are dated. None of that ship would change anything
about the structure of America, not without any direction. Well

(49:45):
that even with the direction, people still gonna do what
the fuck they want to do, and bad what they
want to buy. It's already hard enough to be a
nigga in America. Ain't nobody find to not fucking try
to make the most of it. It's certain shit. You're
gonna have to bay make most of it. Increase your
quality of life of it. They have done such a
number on black people that we buy this ship to

(50:05):
try to hide and mass the insticators that they gave.
Told me, I can't speak for black people, and I'm
not saying you can't, but you can't. You just what
you've just done. You just told me Nigga just said,
we ain't doing this because we've been through hell and
just told me I can't speak for black ain't that ament,
ain't that there is a reason for everything. Don't listen,

(50:29):
you get lost. There's a reason for everything. Don't listen,
you get lost. You literally argue me for seven to
ten minutes that I can't speak for black people, and
proceeded to say when you make a when you make
an outrageous statement like what we slaves, have some facts
from it, like we slaves, We slaves to symbols, don't

(50:49):
we not slaves to nothing? Man? Were not slaves to ship?
That's weird, how it is weird? Baby? Man? You must
don't know the intensity of slavery actually is. I ain't
slave to a motherfucking thing. We spend our money, likes
I say this, Let's rephrase that we spend our money

(51:09):
like we're slaves to symbolism. Well, that's because we live
in a capitalistic society. If we live somewhere where money
it didn't, well, love was the currency, we would be
out here loving the fuck out each other.

Speaker 2 (51:19):
Who says isn't the currency? Not in this country?

Speaker 1 (51:22):
Who says that the people who founded this country on
capitalism says that once you know as a nigga who's
been in the streets, but there'sn't even who in media,
ain't you don't mix love and money? I don't, But
there's people living in this country that is love based.
You know, you're speaking for the whole country. You told
me I can't speak, No, I'm speaking. I'm speaking from

(51:44):
my little one for black people, my little one sixty
six million, the same way that I'm sitting here saying shit,
there is nothing we could say that a university applied
to all black people. That's what I'm trying to tell you.
So especially for the for the whole cost country you see,
and so for you to say in the country, this
country ain't got no love. It's like, bro, it's some

(52:06):
people in this country right now don't care about no Mercedes.
They don't give a fuck about a name brand. They
don't care about a lifestyle or nothing given in the woods.
You know why, because they can't afford that shit. You
have to act like you don't want people going on
Joe Rogan podcasts all the time. There's millionaires that live
in the wards. Just cubb thinking how many people who

(52:28):
go on there who just comedians who are doing gig
to gig though they're going on there hoping to be millionaires. Facts.
But we live in the type of society where you
need money to live fu get the full experience of
this shit. Now, if we lived in somewhere where we
had to go out and find our own food and
be entertained by the people who we live around, and

(52:49):
live in the community and be around people, and like
I said, love was the currency and we didn't have
to worry about how much money we had in the
bank and shit like that, and we were outside for real,
then we it would be another something else. But we
live in America. Do you think does Netflix try to
Does Netflix own their content or y'all own what content

(53:12):
that y'all did for them? Did they pay all for
it or did they? Now it's a it's different, it's
a different situation. We produced it and worked with a
production company, and once they put it on the platform,
they gonna have it on there for however long they're
gonna have it on there, and then it is what
it is. So will it be on the eighty five Apple?

(53:34):
I guess it's my question. At some point, I don't
I don't know. I don't know. Maybe that's interesting though,
maybe it's something to look into it. I mean, I
guess that's a piece of content if they know. But
it's like it's not to duck the question, like we
own some of it, but of course they're not gonna
let us own all of it and it ain't one
of them type of I think they they're interested in

(53:57):
owning the content that's on their platform a different game.
But see, we played a different game too, because it's
like you have to use that leverage to get in
the game. They're always gonna get you on this. That's
why they come and give Shapelle forty million, because it's saying, listen,
we want to own this. We don't want to play
the game where you you know, own it, and we
want to give you forty and we want it. Is

(54:17):
that okay? Do you believe that that's what their best
was being reported? And even giving hard who would report that?
Think about how this ship works Netflix? Why would they
do that? Why would they go and tell somebody the
details of a contract that they got with because I
guess they want to they want to level the market
for what would like you? Why would they want to
do that because they don't want you to be unreasonable

(54:39):
and think it's a forty million dollar number on a
comic without it being ownership on their side. Why would
you what would make you think they would give just
give Dave Chapelle all this money? I believe Dave Chappell
would be worth forty million dollars. What do you mean
worth for three specials? What do you mean worth? You said?

Speaker 2 (54:59):
What would make me think they would give him the money?
It speaks to his work.

Speaker 1 (55:03):
They don't give nobody ship. That's what I'm trying to
get you to understand. Nothing in this business is given.
They didn't give Dave Chappelle this money. They know how
much money that he is gonna generate. Yeah, but that's
they know how much the same They can say, Hey Loen,
we love your podcast. We would love to sign you

(55:23):
the Netflix and give you a special. We know that
you generate money. We know that we can go say
five hundred million dollars worth of ads against you coming
to our platform. That's why you get these numbers. They
don't just pull numbers.

Speaker 2 (55:39):
And I got deals everywhere.

Speaker 1 (55:40):
No, but the way that you say it, you're gonna
mislead people and make them think that they just tell
me what I said that they gave that man that money. Nah,
come on, man, they know what I'm talking about. They
don't give nobody shit. You think that. Yeah, I'm talking
about why they came and offered him forty million. Dous
Anybody that's below that style that don't watch this show.

(56:02):
People watching this show know when I say Netflix gave
Dave Chappelle afforded me, they ain't. Just ain't nobody nice
in this world. We ain't talking like that. We're talking
about business. But you gotta understand that that ain't We
don't even know if that's the number, whatever the number is.
We know they're interested in owning the content on that
platform because I hear comics time and time again speak

(56:24):
to that big comics speak to yo. The reason why
the front end is so much is because they're interested
in owning it and not showing the numbers, not even
giving you real data as to what it done. They'll
tell you something, but that's the thing about it. I'll
be trying to get you to think, get out of
this mindset. They don't have to give you ship if

(56:44):
you're in betting with somebody. They don't got to show
you the number. They gonna show you. It's number six
on the little thing of the like I'm talking about.
You know you're in the business, Sam'd get you to
understand demographics and things. The numbers, that's what you're not listening.

(57:05):
I'm never saying, fuck the numbers. Fuck the numbers, because
watch this. If I'm Netflix, I'm never saying it's my platform.
Do you understand I could put any fucking thing I
wanted you. That's what I'm saying. So you, as a consumer,
you're gonna watch, not your consumer, as I'm saying, as
somebody watching my platform. If I put eighty five South

(57:27):
in number six and and they ain't even it ain't
even came out yet, it's the first day, they gonna
think that this ship got some big numbers behind.

Speaker 2 (57:35):
It, I ain't got nothing to do with what I'm saying.

Speaker 1 (57:38):
You just said. I said, the hard numbers, the demographics
behind the scenes. Okay, when someone there's value to every viewer,
there's an ad company that wants to sell something to
every person that clicks on the eighty five South podcast.
Looking at it in a small I'm looking at it,
how Netflix looking at it. They're selling that data. Broa minute,

(58:01):
Netflix the whole cos everybody's selling data right in a minute,
I'm trying to get you to even understand what Netflix is.
It's the Netflix. This is where you watch all the
movies at right. Yeah, you think that it's just they
got one Netflix deal. Do you understand they got ads
against every movie on this mother whole point I'm making.
This is a trillion dollar compt of course, so I'm

(58:24):
telling you that, but taking mind with it being a
trillion dollar company, every number counts. That's why on YouTube
and things, you can't have fake views and certain things
because they added in this because they're selling ads against it.
So what happens is Netflix is taking that hard data
that they're telling you it is useless. And it's unfortunate

(58:46):
that you were this hiring the business and thinking this
data is useless when this data is so important. You look,
you not even hearing with I'm listening, go ahead, you're
not hearing with them? And how many? How many motherfuckers
have a Netflix account? First of all, plenty everybody? Do
you think they give a fuck what you're watching on there?
Or they want you to have this account? Who the company.

(59:08):
Hell yeah, you think they give a truck what you watch.
They don't fucking write I do. You can have a
Netflix account and never watch nothing. You don't watch Netflix
every day. I think there's extreme value in what is
actually being watched on Netflix. One hundred percent think that
the value of Netflix lives in the people that are
actually watching. I do think you're subscription in the mind,

(59:31):
because if they gave a fuck if you watched it
or not, the shit will be free. No, it's not free.
This shit is twenty dollars a month. Twenty five dollars
a month, Yeah, and then debt every month from a
bend in perspective. So what I'm telling you is it's
a game being played. They have a subscription model where
people are paying the twenty dollars a month. But if
you're telling me that you think that the actual viewership

(59:54):
of a company like Netflix is none and void, that's absurd. Bro.
All I'm saying is they sell ads against the viewership
of that company, against the click through rate. They don't
sell ads just on based on who's signed up. They
sell ads verse the click through rate. All right, lord,
it's way more complicated than that. I'm Okay, tell me

(01:00:18):
because I'm in it, tell me I know you in
it too. We don't have We will be here all
day for me to have to try to break down
how these people make all this money off of this ship.
They don't give a fuck if you watch this ship
or not. Honestly, the numbers matter to motherfuckers who give
a fuck about numbers. The people who trying to buy
some space. You know, that's what And that's only one

(01:00:40):
difference between subscription revenue and ad revenue, right bro, Even
even without all that, they still straight. Yeah, but as
a business, you have to sit down like you have
people in your offices sitting down trying to figure out
how to amplify your app, how to amplify your content,
how to amplify your comedy on all different levels. And

(01:01:00):
you're telling me that these these sections of the business
don't matter. I'm telling you the viewership is where they sell.
The ads gets the same way that you guys do
with your YouTube eighty five South and with your your
audio with black effects, you sell ads against that audio
in that video. No, man, do you not understand how

(01:01:21):
the fucking world is working right now? Yeah? Netflix is
just like Google for fucking movies. They got every movie
in the motherfucking world, every movie you could think of.
I would argue, damn without with the exceptions of certain movies.
But if you get a brand new Netflix account at
your new house and you watch one fucking movie, do
you not know that they have enough information about you

(01:01:42):
to put all the shit that you might possibly in
your lifetime while you have this faction watch. Have you
come over my house and I've been watching Rambo and
all this other shit, It's gonna be some shit on
my Netflix that you don't even know how to get
to on your Netflix? Do you not understand that we
are literally in the fucking matrix. Nah, I get Netflix number.
They don't give a fuck if you watch it or not.

(01:02:02):
If you don't have it, you're not gonna wear to
watch Ship at this point. That's it. That's all I'm saying.
And for you to say, oh no, this is it's
not just like, hey, it's not Walmart when you just
walk in and they got Ship. The these motherfuckers get
money off on in the site subscriptions. The motherfuckers who
they know who watched the Ship on TV, who watched
the Ship on their phone? Who got it on their

(01:02:24):
computer on their iPad. But this ship is one of
the biggest fucking companies in the world. So what I'm
saying is we we don't even understand the scope of
this ship, like this is it, Like this motherfucker is huge.
It's that. Yeah, it is the new way that we're
gonna have to watch movies from here on that. I
know that. So they don't give it. They put that,

(01:02:45):
they put that, they snuck that the tra tearion with
the ads, and so they that's that's the thing. That's
another generation of revenue. So they have a tier where
you can have no ads. They have a tier where
you can go you know where, just to see. I'm
gonna show you how good they are being business. You
actually believe that they losing money? Of course not of

(01:03:07):
course nine you said today in the Red every Quest.
Yeah that, but I'm telling you because they're playing this
subscription game. Well, when the money come in, they put
it back out on content because they want to own
everything that's on their platform. So they spend the most.
Why you think they stole comedy from HBO? First, it
was everything that is absurd, That is, you don't think

(01:03:29):
that they bullied the market and took comedy from HBO
by offering comics ubsurves amount of money. No comedy center
and HBO they took it from them. No, okay, what's
your argument, agains because I'm a comedian. Okay, so tell me.
Do you know that HBO could come and give me
a deal right now and it's still be the ship.

(01:03:50):
I can have an HBO special steal HBO ain't within
No right now, I can argue I believe that now.
But for a moment, Netflix stole the market from them. Bro,
they was they was. They took every comic and gave
them high amounts of money to do specials on Netflix. Bro,
they turned it down there into a comedian platform. I
feel like I'm arguing with my uncle at the house

(01:04:12):
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