January 17, 2026 • 52 mins
The Black Effect Presents... Laugh & Learn!
In this episode of Laugh and Learn, Flame Monroe and Bobbi Clifford discuss the chilling backdrop of extreme winter weather before turning to a serious national conversation sparked by the fatal ICE shooting of Renee Nicole Good in Minneapolis. Good, a 37-year-old mother and U.S. citizen, was shot and killed by a U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) agent during a federal enforcement operation, drawing widespread controversy, protests, and calls for accountability. They also tackle the rise of political violence, the use of force by law enforcement agencies, and the emotional trauma fueled by media coverage. As the conversation progresses, Flame and Bobbi emphasize the importance of civic engagement, compassionate dialogue, and voting, urging listeners to participate in peaceful actions that promote understanding, justice, and communal healing.
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Speaker 1 (00:26):
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Speaker 1 (01:11):
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Speaker 3 (01:14):
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Speaker 2 (01:24):
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Speaker 4 (01:40):
Hey, Hey, hey, this is comedian Flame Monroe and welcome
to this week's episode of Laughing Learned Ladies. Jim, we
are so glad to be here. We are a day
and a day late, but never a dollar short, because
we got some things that we want to get off
our chest. And the only people that we can get
them off with the with. It's you out there and
laugh and learn land I am doing today by my
beautiful co host Smith's bows.
Speaker 2 (02:02):
How's it gone.
Speaker 4 (02:03):
It's going good. I'm in Atlanta and it's cold. Ooh
it's cold, Bobby.
Speaker 2 (02:07):
What kind of cold?
Speaker 4 (02:07):
God give me twenty something degrees, like twenty nine. It's
cold in Atlanta.
Speaker 2 (02:12):
It's twenty nine. Here with the windshill, it's negative five.
Speaker 4 (02:15):
And it's not negative five.
Speaker 2 (02:17):
Yeah, it's negative. I had the dog out for a
walk this morning. I was gonna walk them and he
was taking so long to pee. Honest to god, it
was icicles coming out of his peepee. And even he
looked up at me, He's like, this is for the birds.
Speaker 4 (02:28):
We went home.
Speaker 2 (02:29):
I'm like, screw the walk, we're going on right.
Speaker 4 (02:31):
Look the people only got frozen in the truck trying
to come out of it. That's where they go.
Speaker 2 (02:35):
He was like, oh, we had the blanks and I'm like,
oh my god, this is the and it is. It
was the type that gets in you like it felt
like it was cutting me in two. It was really
and yesterday this is New England. Got to love New England.
It was fifty four degrees and everybody was walking around
in shorts and t shirts. And then today it's like
sub zero, negative five.
Speaker 4 (02:54):
Yeah, that's pneumonia weather. And with this new viaria, pneumonia
is running around flew whatever is. I'm gonna need y'all
to stay ready. If it's wrapping up season, stay wrapped up.
If it's getting naked season, and then get naked. But
in between, just say stay safe, okay, Bobby. Look, so
I am in Atlanta, lations Young because we are here
to film. I mean where we have a show at
(03:17):
the City Wineingy tomorrow night, Atlanta on the seventeenth, Me
and Coco Brown. If you have not gotten your tickets,
to get your tickets. It's a down one production. It's
going to be a fantastic show. We did press at
B one of three this morning. But let's get past
all of it. Let's get to the get to the
get to them. So where are we starting by? Because
you know, I think I want to start today, Bobby.
I was just listening to all of this, so I
(03:39):
kept wondering, why have the Proud Boys been so quiet?
I mean, we've seen some of those protests. Nazis so
cod supposed Nazis. They don't even know what a damn
Nazi really is. They just found something to follow on
the internet that made them feel whole as a person.
And they were doing all these youngsters that were protesting
with their mask on through Ohio and you know little
towns like that. But everybody had been so quiet, lady,
(04:02):
and you know who has been loud and now Proud
is Ice. That's because come to find out that the
majority of them have now become ice workers. So they're
getting paid for their racism and hate and rhetoric. Now
that's why they so quiet. Even the leader Tori his
name is His name is Terriso, the leader of the
(04:28):
Proud Boys is now and one of the Ice guys,
but he's in the upper echelone of Ice. He's not
one of the Rudi poots. He has a higher up position.
That's the same one who stuck the nan nannish dialo
up his ass will smell in his face. I wonder
what he's ticking up his But why Ice? I just
want to know. I just want to know.
Speaker 2 (04:48):
Oh, I don't know.
Speaker 4 (04:49):
I wanted to do the ice cube, ice tray, ice
ta ice cream ice skates.
Speaker 2 (04:56):
Well, nobody else wants the job. They were giving it.
One point, they were giving you a fifty thousand sign
on bonus. So I can see that hold.
Speaker 4 (05:05):
On, that was the advertisement that there was a fifty thousand.
Have you seen the discrepancy? Have you seen the discrepancies
now that a lot of the former ICE workers are
coming out and saying that they were promised to fifty
signing bonus and they have not received.
Speaker 2 (05:20):
Jack Diddley nothing, No, that's everything. I mean, that's sort
of the name of the game, including.
Speaker 4 (05:25):
The training that it would take to do law enforcement.
And more so than the physical hurt which they could
have shot that woman's tires last week, it is the
de escalation. These people are already angry and you give
them a weapon and immunity and tell them go go. Well,
you're just almost like police were the parking tickets. We
(05:47):
have a certain quota that we had to hit every month.
It's almost like they have a certain quota that they
have to kill with ice or detained or whatever they
need to do. I'm sorry, boy, what's your point?
Speaker 2 (05:57):
No, no, no, I was going to say, I mean
you made two great points there. ICE's job is not
to police. It's not what their job is this there
to go in, contain and remove. That's it. So it
is the it is the police who have learned and
been trained to de escalate. And because he had to
get this administration had to get more ice on the
(06:19):
boots on the ground, so to speak, he cut their
training in half. He made it in resemblance of him.
Forty seven days. That's the only training they have. Twenty
seven days isn't enough to give someone a weapon and
put them on the street and highly charged areas. It
just isn't.
Speaker 4 (06:38):
So.
Speaker 2 (06:38):
I mean, what happened in Minnesota was I mean, it's
so tragic, but it was. There's been more since. It's
been shooting since and flash bombs thrown at vehicles with
six month olds and little babies in them. Of course,
you know they were all in the hospital with breathing
all that in What do you think is going to happen?
So they need something they need to do better because
(06:59):
this isn't isn't working.
Speaker 4 (07:00):
It's not working at all. Bobby. You know what disgusted
me about Renee God, that whole renegold situation outside of
her blade murder from this ice guy, This this coward
was her father in law speaking out publicly like that
he didn't see any wrong with her getting I thought
that the father in law was barbaric, the ex husband,
the husband who had died speaking against this woman. This
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woman lost her life because he didn't he didn't agree
with the fact that she had started dating a woman.
You have no protocol or no say so over how
somebody else is enjoying their life. You search should have
stayed in the background. I don't even know what kind
of grandfather you are. And I hope with that kind
of rhetoric and that kind of hate that he is
spewing to the world, that he does not get custody
(07:42):
of the grandchild because racist is a learned behavior.
Speaker 2 (07:46):
Yeah, that's what he's looking for, and that's what.
Speaker 4 (07:48):
He's going to teach that woman's child.
Speaker 2 (07:51):
Yeah, that's what he's looking for. You know, I don't
know if she handled because we have we have no investigation, right,
we have a federal investigation that's behind doors. They made
decisions about what was what had happened within an hour
of the incident. Of course, we don't know. We didn't
have enough information. I am sure, as we have spoken
about in last week's episode, that there are going to
(08:12):
be even more phones that will come that will show
different angles, that will give more information. You know, she
and her wife were going from protest to protest and
filming just so they could get it on camera about
actually what was happening. Was she right to try to
block or try to interfere so she could get those films.
I don't know. That's not up to me to decide,
(08:34):
but she certainly didn't deserve to lose her life over it.
We need to do better.
Speaker 4 (08:40):
We need to do better, Bobby. It is and we
have to. And the trauma that we were talking offline about.
I think we discussed this when they're actually happened with
we no go is that we keep seeing it every day,
just like I produced. They say, if we had to
keep watching George Floyd, we played back on us every
day and sometimes in our mindset we will fill a
like or where it was to me. It don't affect me,
(09:02):
it does affect you. You cannot unring that bell because
once you've seen it and that scene has been planted,
you cannot unseen. You can try as hard as you
want you to forget it, but something may happen and
it'll trigger you to relive that moment of seeing that
again over and over and over. That is dramatic to
us as American citizens, that we have to owe it
to people in general that we had to George Floyd.
(09:24):
We had to watch that over and over and over again.
We were not there to actually witness it, but we
did not witness it because y'all kept showing it, just
like they keep showing Renee Gold's murder from so many
different angles, Bobby, that's going to trigger somebody somewhere, especially
somebody young who don't have that mind already shaped, who
don't know who and what they are or their purpose,
(09:45):
and that can send them off to go do something
as bad as that, or to retaliate. You just never
know by because it is dramatic for all of us.
Speaker 2 (09:54):
You know who I feel the worst for in those circumstances,
Renee Goods kids. It's out there, you know. So she
had the six year old, but I believe her other
children were a little bit older than that. You don't
think they've seen it and watch their mom get get
killed and forever that's going to be. You know, they're
going to be playing on the anniversary on the Yeah.
Speaker 4 (10:17):
I feel bad for the children. But you know who
what really broke my heart the wife or the girlfriend.
Speaker 2 (10:22):
She was car so she was trying to get in.
Speaker 4 (10:26):
She was trying to get in.
Speaker 2 (10:28):
She could have been shot because remember first one was
through the windshield. The so let's even pretend, okay, that
he really was in fear of his life. He thought
that she was going to show I can't.
Speaker 4 (10:40):
I can't. My my imagination is never going to get
that small.
Speaker 2 (10:45):
But put your your imagination hat on for one second,
just for one second. So he did. He does the
one shot. Okay, that so we'll say that one's legitimate.
What about the two out of the side window as
she's driving past him?
Speaker 4 (10:57):
What about the tires? What about the one shot? Should
have been enough to scare me, It's enough to push
the break or or to make me really take off
because I'm in fear that you're trying to fucking kill me.
I can't. I feel bad for her because she was
standing right there, she saw her. You don't know what
kind of relationship they had. That could have been the
(11:18):
love of her life. And how do you get over
something like that? You know, it's just crazy, Bobby. But again,
we're still in the place now, him him going over
there here and gangster and we talking about when I
say him, were talking about the one in the in
the White House, going over there in Gangster and the
oil from Venezuela. You know who. I'm mortified by the
behind all of this whole situation, Bobby, that damn vice
(11:40):
president over there that has now become the president donating
her her She is, no, she's not the president. The
lady who donated her.
Speaker 2 (11:49):
She's she wants she wants to spot. So what she's
doing is I always think of your expression the overplay
for the underplay, right, So that's the Maria Karina Machado.
It was that she's looking for the president's spot, so
she thinks that she'll get his backing. She's giving him something.
She's giving him a secondhand pressures.
Speaker 4 (12:10):
Yes, she's given him a Nobel Priest price.
Speaker 2 (12:13):
She's regifted which she can't do right. This isn't Christmas.
You're not taking something that you don't care that much
about and passing it along for something better.
Speaker 4 (12:24):
Giving him the award won't give him the accolades. He
will not be respected by by the people who do.
Speaker 2 (12:30):
They said, you can't flame, you can't. They came out
before she did it. She actually did.
Speaker 4 (12:35):
Wait an we go back to that, but we haven't
heard that in quite some time. They said, what.
Speaker 2 (12:41):
That she can't do it?
Speaker 4 (12:43):
Don't you have to sweed him? Now? What is the
words I said?
Speaker 2 (12:46):
Because she can't. She can't do it. You got you.
You can't take something that was given to you and
then pass it on. What happens is probably this is
my guess, the Nobel Committee could then say, Okay, if
she doesn't want it, then who else? Who's the next
person that deserves it? You conscious choose somebody else, and
you certainly can't. This is like the worst white elephant
(13:08):
gift at Christmas time, where you know they're passing it along.
She's just looking for something. She wants his backing so
that she could get her bottom in that in that spot,
in that that golden chariot. So I did. He's he's
too much. I mean, he's talking about back to Minnesota.
He's he's threatening to invoke the Insurrection Act because he
(13:31):
knows that he's the only one that can actually do it.
Although I don't know how in the world he would
meet the qualifications, but he doesn't seem to to mind.
He does it regardless. So he just does what he wants.
He's thrilled to get the to get the air her
used reward, you know, the letter or whatever she actually
handed him, or the medal, the I don't know, she's
(13:53):
got to a statue. He's going to meddle something.
Speaker 4 (13:55):
I don't know. It's crazy, the the the audacity of
how they just do stuff and just so bold with
it and embold in with it. It's kind of like, wow, Bobby,
we have It's like the Democratic Party have given away
everything to me. They just see it. And Chuck Schumer,
(14:15):
I've been saying this for years. Chuck Schumer is a schmuck. Period.
Speaker 2 (14:21):
That's a perfect expression for him. He is. I think
Chucks has served his time. I don't Yeah, he's not
convincing or getting people to work together or we need
him to bring down the rhetoric as well, you know
(14:42):
everything every expression compy. We already know this flame that
Trump is bad, we know it. We already know so.
All right, so he's bad. How are you going to
work around? How are you going to get things done?
What are you going to do to make things better
instead of just complaining about them all the time. I'm
sort of sick. I'm over the Democrat doing that. I
(15:02):
saw just before you and I got on. I think
I told you I was trying to catch up on
some of my political shows, and I was watching Cuomo.
And what I love about Cuomo is that he will
have he will have a Democrat on as well as
a Republican on. And he had in this particular circumstance,
they were talking about healthcare, and he had Rocanna from California,
(15:23):
and then from Missouri. I think it's Mark Alfred. And
they spoke respectfully to each other, and they appreciated each other,
and they appreciated that each one of them had differences.
And I thought, this is what it's supposed to be,
things getting done, working, not sitting and screaming at each other.
And I would love to see Chuck Schumer get back
(15:45):
to doing some of that.
Speaker 4 (15:46):
Chuck Schumer is the reason I agree with there should
be term limits on politicians, because he should have been going.
He should have been gone. Miss McConnell should have been gone. Hell,
even my girl Nancy bulows he should have been gone.
Means that they should have been put in a position
to groom someone younger and more ready and more agile
to take over for them, as opposed to having an
(16:08):
in election. I have groomed this person. Not to say
that this person has all of my policies, but this
person understands what the job is to serve the American people.
They don't have that lobby. They don't.
Speaker 2 (16:20):
I agree with that, or a flip side of that
would be if they didn't want to have term limits.
They should be each person just like you and I.
We have a job, and we have a boss, and
our boss gives us a review at a certain time
and says, Okay, these are the things I'm seeing you do.
These are the things you have to do better. It's
up to us to say, okay, these are my accomplishments,
(16:41):
you know, like just to remind them they should be
the same thing. These congressmen and the senators, they should
have to have an actor or passed or worked on
these committees that pushed things forward. If you got thirty
eight bills, that's it. That is the lowest in history,
and that's all you've gotten done. You know, I think
everybody should be spanked, and we need a new little
(17:03):
bit new blood because if people aren't willing to work together,
I think it's ridiculous.
Speaker 4 (17:09):
Y yeah, Bobby beyond over it, so much over it
that we need to get to make sure that these
mid terms fall so blue that it can't turn on
the color. But the theory is, hopefully we won't be
in a war, Hopefully we're won't be in a crisis
to where we can't vote, you know, Hopefully rights won't
be stripped, stripped from different groups and organizations so that
(17:31):
we can all vote, you know, because according to what
they're trying to do, I don't know if they're trying
to remove the Civil re Acts so black people can't vote.
Are they trying to stop transgending people from voting. Are
they trying to stop women from voting? It's so many
keeping blocks. I know, I know, I know what's that?
(17:51):
And you know, body, that was funny, but that was
the truth, And that's terrible. That's terrible because now you're
just labeling everybody is something else. So it won't stop,
it'll never stop. Where woe So the only thing that
can vote is a Christian white nationalists man that they
view that's perfect for them. No no, no, no, no no no.
Speaker 2 (18:09):
In the top and the top so many percent, that's
really what they want. You know, they're not really looking
for the uneducated, low income person.
Speaker 4 (18:20):
They use, they use the uneducated, that's low income already,
they get what they needed for them. They got them
to vote to put him back in that position. That's
how he got in because that's what worked for him.
Speaker 2 (18:33):
Mm hmm.
Speaker 4 (18:35):
I had to go pick up an audioall. I'm sorry,
y'all was quick too.
Speaker 2 (18:39):
Why don't you Why don't you tell them what you got?
Speaker 4 (18:41):
I am not because Bobby don't like them and Aaron
doesn't eat pork. So my girlfriend said, how do you
lose weight? I say, eat less pork, eat more coucie.
I didn't that's not the word I used. But you
know this ain't stand up. And if y'all was on stage,
then y'all would get it for real. They said, what
am I gonna do there? I say, well, I guess
we'll both of them fair free, so let's go for.
Speaker 2 (19:02):
But maybe they're both protein.
Speaker 4 (19:05):
I don't know. When i'm them make you pregnant, so
it might not be fat free because nine months later
you might gain a whole bunch of weight.
Speaker 2 (19:11):
Ew No, no, ma'am, did you see that the Supreme
Court at the transgender sports are actually the Supreme Court?
I haven't paid much attention, Like, I don't know when
they are slated to come back with a decision, I
don't know if that's going to be. You know, they
seem to take him up with a lot of stuff
like in May June. But I thought this will kind
(19:33):
of be interesting to see where they're well.
Speaker 4 (19:36):
You're tottering on the fence. They don't know which way
they're going to go. Borderline, I have no opinion on
which way. I personally, thank you. Personally, I think I
know which way is going to go. I think they're
playing it out for to say face, because they're trying
to see what it's going to happen with this administration.
But personally, Bobby, I wish we weren't even here. Personally,
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as a as a person of trans experience, I wish
that we weren't even here. I wish that we had
my thing whose I've always seen, just created a lane
for trans athletes, because here's the thing. If we lose
in the Supreme Court, then now the trans athletes have
no place to compete. They have no place to play,
they have no place to showcase their god given talent
(20:21):
because they don't have a place to call their own
and say, every man's home exactly every man's home is
his castle. This is what Robin Hood's see it. So
if you got your own space, that's your castle. But
you're right, Bobby, Now, you'll never know how great you
could have been because you don't have no place to
(20:42):
be great. You were trying to be great someplace where
you were not welcome. And with all the hate and
division that's coming down from the top, I'm afraid for
these teen athletes, these teens trans athletes that if they
do better than the girls or the biological girls or whatever,
they're going to be hurt, harmed, you know, possibly kill.
(21:02):
That is where we are at.
Speaker 2 (21:04):
Yeah, and I agree, and not necessarily even by the athletes,
but by people who don't understand parents who disgruntled you know,
adults is more who I think will bother.
Speaker 4 (21:13):
Them, those people who wanted something fair. You see something
out in the world. You have a daughter, You have
a son, I have a daughter, or imagine if you
had a daughter. You train and you watch that girl
go through it hard, working hard to be number one,
to be the best female in that division that she could.
Just to allow somebody else who had family cut their mind,
(21:37):
their mind caught up with their with how they identify
and they were allowed to become how they truly felt.
But then you go up against my daughter and you were,
like you said, but you already have an age. Absolutely not,
absolutely not. I would never agree with that as even
if I wasn't a parent. I just the way I
see things is maybe maybe a little different from other people.
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But I like people to be treated fairly.
Speaker 2 (22:02):
I do. And I like you saying that the trans
Olympics because we have the special Olympics that theys Toner Shriver,
we have the power Olympics. Ye, that are almost as
as people well watched as the regular Olympics are. So
if we have those lanes, why can't we make it?
And maybe we need to sit and look. I don't
know if there would be any other lane for any
(22:22):
other reason.
Speaker 4 (22:23):
I believe that those talks have been to the table,
but it was the powers that be over in the
trans people and who felt like they weren't being treated fairly,
that it was being discriminatory. I don't believe that at all.
But I believe that you should have wanted to be
someplace that you felt safe.
Speaker 2 (22:40):
Yeah, I would think so too. I would date.
Speaker 4 (22:43):
Every kind of trans daughter, and she's fifteen, sixteen years old,
and she run against the girls of wool Woo and
they all her girlfriends. And then she decides to join
the girls track team and she beats them all. They're
not gonna be her girlfriends no more, and she's not
gonna be considered one of the girls. This is still
competite and that teen rivalry. That that, oh my god,
(23:08):
that is we thought we were bad as adults. Them
teens are rough. The only reason I know that is
because I live with two and I used to listen
to them going back and forth. I'm like, oh my god,
what have this world becomes? The teen and the teen
girls of Mean Girls, A lot of the teen girls
of Mean Girls, and they say nothing is off limits.
They will tell your soul, your heart at your chest
(23:29):
while you're standing looking at them. So yeah, it is.
It's almost setting yourself up a failure, Bobby, if you
ask me, yeah, I don't. I don't.
Speaker 2 (23:38):
I don't understand it myself. But I always want to
sit in I don't want to ever be anywhere. But
this is just me that and I don't in this
particular conversation. I don't have a lot that I can
say because I don't have a trans child, and I'm
not trans myself, but I would always want my kid
to be someway that was safe, that they felt welcomed,
et cetera. And the other piece of that, you know
(24:00):
what I was thinking of. I'm thinking of like the
ice skaters and stuff. I had a girlfriend's child who
was ice skating. They were very good, but they didn't
end up going as far as the Olympics. That said,
the money she used to put in, they used to
be up at three and four in the morning to
get ice time. She spent tens of thousands of dollars
(24:20):
every year. And to think you're trying to give your
kid the edge for the sport and then to have
somebody who comes in that's a little stronger, that could
push and jump and do whatever better, I think I'd
be a little devastated, to be quite honest with you. Anyway,
That's enough about that. But I just didn't know if
(24:40):
you had heard it or you were following it. I know,
I don't want to beat it to death and then
have everybody hating our gay.
Speaker 4 (24:45):
Yeah. Well, I'm following it because Bobby, it is news
for me, and it is news for my listeners a
lot of things that I do not agree with, and
it's not going I say that I don't want them
to change it, but I was always looking out for
the entire spectrum that if we do lose this, then
we the trans athletes because I'm not an athlete. I'm
not I'm not an athlete. I don't compete in sports.
But now the ones that that is what they're calling
(25:07):
is won't have a place to call it on the
prof see that, And that's all I was ever saying.
So why why push the envelope? Why force that when
there's another option? There was always another option, but they
didn't want that option. They wanted to be somewhere else,
and I just don't agree with that. On let's Bobby,
(25:29):
let's go to Iran, because Iran like Iran like y'all
going to come up off of us. So we're gonna
show you that Iran apparently has put out a threat
towards Trump to say that the next the next hit
won't miss, as if they were saying that they did
that one. Before we touch on that, y'all, though, I
gotta go, Pete, We're gonna take a commercial break, and
(25:54):
we're back that was the quickest p ever. Oh my god,
if it was only that fast, I think that is.
And I'm telling you, Bobby, going to a war right now,
with the economy, with the disgruntlement of America. I've seen
a politician I want to say he was from the UK,
(26:17):
said that America is I can't. I hate that. I
doesn't write his name. Now is probably the most dangerous
country right now. That is just the unsafest country. Baby.
We have lost so many tourists coming here, has lost
twenty five thousands, and you know, and then we just
had these horrible wildfires last year allegedly on their own,
(26:39):
but you know, people here who live in California believe
that they were removed so that they could have the
Olympics here. Bobby, with the state of the world the
way it is, I don't believe the Olympics is going
to come to America. And with that being said, so
you tell me that these alleged wildfires that burned down,
burned all these people out of their homes for it
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was all in vain. So now, because now we're going
to lose that Olympic money because people are afraid to
come here because ice is out of control.
Speaker 2 (27:09):
I personally would be I probably would let my child come,
but I would I'd be terrified because the athletes.
Speaker 4 (27:19):
I'm talking about the I'm talking about all of them.
Speaker 2 (27:22):
Yeah, I'm talking about the whole kitten kaboodle, because it
looks crazy people being shot in the street, you know,
not just the immigrants. I mean they had. It was
just on the news this week. They had a seventeen
year old kid. I think he was in Target. He
was grabbed. He's an American, he was born here, and
they had him and they beat him up. I think
(27:44):
that they brought him somewhere. Then they had to release
them and they realized he's an American kid. But you know,
we don't hear what I'm sorry or and I guess
he didn't hear war. I'm sorry either. But I'd be
nervous too, even if I had the papers. I guess
if you have, if you have any type of papers,
just to walk all around with them, which I was
always trying. You know, you hide your passport, you keep
it somewhere, put it in the safe or whatever, but
(28:05):
I guess you gotta gotta wear it around your badge
like a lanyard for the love of God, and I
don't even know if that will keep them safe. No,
but I Aron scares me. Yeah, you know, this is
a country. And maybe it's because when we were kids,
you had the whole you know, Iran Contra thing, and
and you high president.
Speaker 4 (28:27):
With you. Oh my god, it would make his name,
would make your blood curdle when you heard the stories
throughout him, you know, so it was just a lie.
And to know that they have so many sense that
Irene Iran Contra affair under Ronald Reagan on the under
that administration, they have some of the same weapons of
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mass destruction that we have, and who knows how far
alone they are with what. So what they're telling us
on the news is oh, oh they we get rid
of them. We blew up all their stations. You blew
up what they wanted you to know that they had,
just like we have what you guys want us to
know that you have. Because they say that the way
according to media, it wasn't seeing An. I want to
(29:10):
say it was MSNBC. The reason that we were so
easy for Trump to acquire the President Maduro from Venezuela
is because they have these new sound things. Bobby with
the drones and so the sound affects your brains and
buckles you to your knees. It made me think about
the movie The Incredible Hulk, because they had those in
The Incredible Hulk to stop the Hawk, and it was
(29:32):
just sound. It gets up in your heads like this
and I'm Bobby, and they buckled them to their knees
to where they was helpless. That's why there was the
very few shootings when Maduro was acquired from Venezuela, when
he was snatched up out of Venezuela. Oh, Bobby, So
those are things that we don't hear about. Those are
things that they don't talk about on the news here.
(29:54):
I think we know all the secrets.
Speaker 2 (29:56):
They were actually one hundred people. CNN was reporting one
hundred peopeople that were actually killed in that in that movement.
You know, they kept saying, oh, so few, so few
people were shot or killed. I think one hundred people
is but yeah, I mean it's crazy. It's under every
every presidency or there has been some sort of like
(30:20):
I said, we had Carter with it, we had Reagan
with it, with with Aaron, there's always trouble. So it
really this it scares me that it's you know, it's
like recycling it back up. And these are people that
will go down with their counts.
Speaker 4 (30:32):
They are not like, Yes, Trump was speaking on something earlier.
I seen it earlier today, speaking about with They asked
him about immunity for presidents. So he said, well, with
all the accusations that you're throwing at Obama, are you
worried about Obama? You know the immunity affected him. He says, well, no, no,
I'm not really worried about it, but it's going to
(30:53):
affect all the people around him. So you know you
had to think that, right, So this is just a
boomerang to you. So with all the carnage that Trump
is happening, happening under his watch through his administration, because
of the immunity clause, with him, nothing will happen. But
everybody around him, from Stephen Miller to all the other
knuckleheads chrome I mean known tould tell all the other hexi,
(31:20):
those would be the ones that will be the collateral
damage in the flight trying to get to him and
will tell everything that he did. But because he has
immunity as a president, nothing will affect him. But it's
almost like what damn so everybody know they're going to
get thrown up under the bus. They're just making enough
money now to be able to support their family while
they're going away.
Speaker 2 (31:40):
Yep, yep, it's it's pretty scary stuff.
Speaker 4 (31:46):
You know what hurt me though, Bobby. The other day
I was watching Mark oh Hey shot his wife, politician
expert Mark Kelly. I had brain fart, Mark.
Speaker 2 (32:00):
Kelly, he shot his wife.
Speaker 4 (32:03):
No, no, no, I was watching him speak if I have.
They are trying to partially take away partia his part
of his his pension and demot his title. And and
I'm like, this man has served many years in the military,
a couple of tours in war, really fast country everything
(32:26):
just because a hot head, a drunken hot head, wants
to get angry because he told the military that you
signed up to defend the constitution, not one person who
can make decisions that you're knowing not wrong. I thought
he was If anybody should be awarded a courage medal
right now, because that's what's missing in the country's courage.
(32:48):
I think Mark Kelly should get one. I thought that
was so courageous for him to speak out like that.
Speaker 2 (32:54):
I like him as a person. I think He is
a good I love his wife, and I love how
he has stood by all these years, you know, with
her impairments and whatnot. Although she really she came back,
she has trouble with her communication. It's all up there.
I think. I don't know. How could you imagine me
with that not being able to get my words out?
Oh my god, that would be I could lose my mind.
(33:14):
You could watch me literally melt into a big puddle in.
Speaker 4 (33:18):
Front of you the comedience. Man and me just went somewhere.
But I'm not going to say that publicly.
Speaker 2 (33:25):
But I agree too. I think what a small for
saying the right thing. What he said legally was correct.
It is your duty not to follow in a legal
order given to you, not a rightful or adjust They
were trying to say that. And the fact that they
can really only get him and punish him, I thought,
you know, this is all. It's funny. President Trump has
(33:49):
complained that people go after him everything is politically motivated.
What is more politically motivated than this? I don't know.
I don't think anything.
Speaker 4 (34:00):
I just loved I loved to see men even in
the face of adversity. And mind you, he has lots
of reasons to tuck his tail and move. They Even
though it wasn't the maga that shot his wife Gabigift
for years ago, it was something deranged, whatever he was,
it's still the fact that they got that close to
(34:20):
him and for him to still stand on his little
hymn Nancy Pelosi, so many others who really have just
taken that all and said no, right is right and
wrong is wrong. Those are the people that are not
getting commendation. And those are people that's not getting the
respect out of this country that I think they should
because it's so busy to everybody's the fear, the fear
(34:41):
of I'm going to lose my position, the fear I'm
going to have to gravel and bow down. And Bobby
I said on The Breakfast Club in twenty nineteen that
I never liked none courageous men, by the way, but
I sit on there that are a gay white man
in America is still a white man in America. Two
gay white podcasters win after Jasmine Crockett so hard about
(35:01):
three weeks ago told people not to donate money to
her and everything. No repercussions for them, not because they
were gay, but because they were white They did apologize
for it afterwards, but the damage had already been done.
Speaker 2 (35:16):
What was the rationale?
Speaker 4 (35:17):
Do you know she's a loud black woman who will
I'm like, she sees you, she's voting for you. You
know what happened to me, to me with the community,
with the LGBT, but not all the lg I caould
say with a lot of with the trans community and
some of the especially these younger gays and younger trans,
you wanted to be seen. They saw you already, You
had every right afforded to man. You wanted to be seen.
(35:41):
Give me when I tell you, they see you? Do?
They see you? They don't like what they see, but
they see you, and it is scary. It's terrifying.
Speaker 2 (35:53):
Not for the right reasons that you always want to
be seen for the right reasons.
Speaker 4 (35:56):
That's the reason I say it the way I said it,
Because they see you. Yeah. The Colorista was the two guys,
the two gay podcasters that spoke against. Just for clarifications,
these were the two gay guys who spoke against Jasmine Crockett.
I'm probably not that correctly. L A c U L
R I S T A S c U L You
(36:18):
are I T a s the Colorista. That's the podcast
going well. And I'm telling you, if you're in a
bad place, or if you think you down or you trouble,
and I'm telling you we all living with troubles right
now in America. O oh my god, do they see you?
I hear it. And I said it on the Breakfast
Up in twenty nineteen, my very first interview, that a
(36:38):
gay white man in America is still a white man
in America. And Charlomagne said he still has that privilege,
and I said, boom, there it is because understand that
if I would have spoke against such a public platform
like that, against their leader, my platform will probably be done.
And they work for iHeart, the same network we're on here.
You hear me when I tell you, O tunities to everybody.
(37:01):
It's just that everybody takes don't take the opportunity to
use it wisely. They did put a pussy as apology up,
but accord Yard producer, it was only in their stories
and it disappears after twenty four hours. Take your apology
and stick you with the same place where you stick
one of those low penises.
Speaker 2 (37:16):
At what I want to do for foot fan the
flame I actually sent you a couple of pieces because
we're talking about seeing so I just thought it was
a great segue into it that something that people are
so thirsty for and hungry for is peace and love
and something to bring the rhetoric down in kindness. Have
(37:36):
you seen this? These Buddhist monks that are going from
Texas to DC over one hundred and twenty days, twenty
three hundred miles they're walking with I don't know how
many of them. It looks like there's no more than fifteen.
They're walking with a stray dog that they had gotten
India when they were doing something similar name Maloka. And
(37:59):
the people that are come out. The person who kind
of is leading the charge that the head monk so
to speak, said that he thought he thought there might
be one or two people on the roads, but he
didn't think there would be much. They were doing it
because everything they do is kind of quiet, and you know,
they're not doing stuff for recognition. That way, the thousands
(38:20):
of people that are lining the roads and thanking them
and give, you know, gifting them and supporting them and
listening to them speak, is it absolutely touches my heart.
I follow that walk and then because you do. You know,
the algorithm grabs shoot. So people who are standing on
the side, you get it, like their clips. It is amazing.
(38:42):
And so we always say, like, what can you do?
These are the things you do? People? You show up,
You show up, and you vote. You in a peaceful protest,
we see now, do not get in a car or
have anything that would be considered to be a weapon.
Really take the tenants of Martin Luther King, and it's
his birthday this weekend, so you know that it's a
(39:03):
perfect timing but peaceful protest, that those are things that
are certainly going to make a difference. I am dying.
I haven't heard this. I'm dying to see when they
get to DC. What's going to happen there. Do you
think the Cheeto is going to come out and look
at them or listen to.
Speaker 4 (39:20):
The absolutely not. First of all, that he should be
giving them around the applause because they have on his
favorite color, which is orange. Second of all, nobody really
messed with monks because monks are such a mysterious religion.
You really don't know how to handle them, but to
stay on your side of the road. And it's not
to say that they're violent. They only preach calm and quiet,
(39:44):
and you know, but you never know what they're carrying
up under them, Orae's dresses that they walk around here.
Ain't no telling them what's up under them Orae's dresses.
And they got on some damn sandals. You don't know
what they're harboring. But for every time I've ever and
what you say, it spoke volumes because here's the thing.
They did that quietly. But so many people like you said,
I've seen the videos where they're lining up and they're
(40:05):
applauding them, and they're giving them all of this energy
of joy and thing it's hope, because that's what's fucking
said in America. We haven't any more hope because we
look at this flass record, this monster on TV every
single day that steals our joy, that steers steals our
American values and our democracy. So the monks are showing
(40:26):
us that there is this much. What the faith says,
all you need is faith the size of a mustard seed.
If fifteen months are the mustle seed that we need
to turn America around, goddamn it, Sammy up for it.
I'm all in by the clipper because we're losing, and
we're losing fast.
Speaker 2 (40:43):
Yeah, they didn't even get national coverage. Somebody sent it
into to Anderson Cooper and that's the only national coverage.
They've got local coverage and it's been amazing and a
lot of this This is what really touches my heart
because I think they're really walking through red states. I
don't think they've gone through a bluestate yet. And so
(41:04):
to see the people that in the volumes of people
that are coming out and you just said, it's hope people.
American people, for the most part are wonderful people who
have hope and they want to help people. And this
kind of shows that there's a small subset that is
that is making everybody nuts. But anyway, if anybody has
(41:24):
a chance to watch these, just plug into your you know,
if you put into Instagram walk for peace, it will
it will pop up.
Speaker 4 (41:32):
It will turn your it will turn your frown to
a smile because you will see that we're not the
only ones feeling the way we are feeling. But somebody
is actually putting in a protests. And these these monks
are religious people like real connected to Jesus, so to
the book, Yes to Me it's all the same thing.
(41:53):
It's one person. It is it's the spirit, it's the
soul that you believe here. But they are very connected.
And I'm telling you, if that's what it's going to take,
hopefully it'll make a real change. And I love the
fact that nobody has tried to harm him. Nobody has.
And you, like you said about it, they're walking through
the real estace. You know, it's it's some hot their
feet there.
Speaker 2 (42:13):
And there feet their feet are like you know, they're cut.
And oh even so one of them was driving in
one of the vans because you know, at some point
it gets too darker, too colds. You know, they're going
to the hotel. They usually try to walk anyway. The
van was hit and so this is even a nicer story.
Not this part of the story isn't nice. He was hit.
They fractured his legs so badly in the accident. His
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leg had to be amputated, so that that poor monk
actually had to that Buddhist prasect actually had to go back,
not monk to go back to you know, wherever they're
they're from, the temple that they're from, because their their
vehicle was was totaled. Somebody donated one to be able
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to keep this, this movement going. Oh my God, that
touched my heart. I'm telling you, my eyes fill up.
I watch them at the end of the night before
I go to bed, and that's when I say, I said,
there is hope that is out there. I hope to
God when they go to DC they're met with some
sort of positive energy and not just the range energy.
(43:18):
If you want to see the monks that is on
Walk for Peace, put in Walk for Peace. Even put
that into your Google search engine and if you want
to learn more about it, why they did it, when
they started it, and whatnot. I think they're on day
eighty three, so they have a ways to go, and
they might be coming to an area if we're.
Speaker 4 (43:38):
About because you moved me out the water something. Are
they completely barefoot? No sandals or anything?
Speaker 2 (43:44):
A lot of them.
Speaker 4 (43:45):
Yeah, I would have to talk to the leader, like,
look at your player. Now. I know you could afford
me some nikes or some you could have gave I
would have woren some Walmart sneakers. It wouldn't even matter.
You had to give me some of them put on
my feet.
Speaker 2 (43:55):
No, some of them have something on. Not a lot
of them, but a lot of them are doing your
barefoot because that's months. That's how they they travel.
Speaker 4 (44:03):
But this is they want to do cold climate states.
Speaker 2 (44:08):
So here's the good thing. So remember I said there
are tons of people that are on the sides of
the road. There have been physical therapists that have come
out to meet them at the end. They are podiatrists
that are there to treat their feet every night. There
are masseuses that are there to try to keep them,
keep them healthy so that they can keep walking. Because
that's the biggest fear is that they're doing this and
this is wonderful, but you know our bodies. The average
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age is what the lead guy is and he's forty four,
so there I think it goes to seventy something, and
then there's somebody that's twenty something. There's a there's a
monk that's twenty something. So they're trying to keep them healthy.
And you know, in your forties, when you hit your
forties like we did, it is talking about stop saying
thirty nine. You hit forty. But when you get out
(44:54):
of bed, it's not quite the same as when you
used to hop out of the bed in your twenties.
So I love that, I love support.
Speaker 4 (45:00):
I get a question. I have a question, though, body,
because now I've been trying do the monk's religion practice?
Are they celibacy? No sex?
Speaker 2 (45:09):
I believe, so I really don't know a lot. I'll
have to I'll have to agree.
Speaker 4 (45:13):
An wait a minute, I got because now I really
get questions like I'm barefoot, I'm watching for a cause.
I get all that, but I can't even bust the
nut every now and again, hold on, play a hold all.
Speaker 2 (45:22):
Yeah, like not monks so yet. Traditional Buddhist monks and
nuns practice strict, strict, lifelong celibacy is a core part
of their vows.
Speaker 4 (45:32):
Can masturbate.
Speaker 2 (45:35):
I think it means whatever you think it means. And
I'm not being fresh like that that's a loophole.
Speaker 4 (45:42):
That was a joke.
Speaker 2 (45:47):
But I think that I just know this for times
in my life that have been dry. The longer you
don't have it, the more you don't even care about it,
like it's it doesn't become part when you're used to
having it. Then that's a problem, you know. Just like
French fries, go without French fries for a while, I can.
Speaker 4 (46:07):
Miss a fry too. I don't even gonna miss the
busting down there. I miss that. Hold on, that's not
you could, that's not that's not the same kind of comparison.
Body so here everything like somebody who ain't had no
penis in quite Sometimes it work it.
Speaker 2 (46:19):
A long time, so enforce the strict celibacy, prohibiting even
physical contact with women, many of them, so they're not
saying physical contact with themselves. So whatever.
Speaker 4 (46:32):
I bet you they got some techniques. I need. I
need to find out what they masturbating techniques, I wondered,
as they go deep into the spiritual realm. I had
to close out with fun. Listen, ladies, gentlemen, we are
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(46:54):
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(48:16):
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Speaker 4 (48:19):
Well, let me tell you guys this. You guys understand
that hope is a word right now that we have
to hold on to and make it so big that
we all believe in the same thing, which is getting
democracy back into a safe country that we live in.
That's what we need right now. That is what we
want to keep. So in order to do that, we
have to pray together, we have to see each other
(48:40):
for whoever we are, and we got to get assets
to the pose and vote.
Speaker 2 (48:44):
Absolutely, it's coming. It's you know, ten or eleven short months.
It's here before you know it. It really is. Look
at we just did a year with him, and look
how in some days it seems like the longest year
of my life, but in others it's gone by in
a flash. And a blink of an eye. So those
those elections are going to be here. Find out all
(49:04):
of your family and friends who did not vote in
the last election. Get them to the polls. That's what
we need. We need that nine million to to have
their voices heard.
Speaker 4 (49:16):
I think they got some of that nine million, got
a lot of their services cut off. We might not
have to ask them. I think they'll be there. They
need to know what decisions need to be made. Please
be protective, be safe for yourself, Be kind, Please be kind.
Let me tell you what kindness does. I'm filled with
joy because yesterday we were I was traveling at the
airport in lax Quick Story, and there was I was
gemail a little snacks on water, my chocolate milk compressors,
(49:40):
and it's this white woman came over to ask the
guy they had any more masks. He says, no, we
don't have any more masks. She was just she just
was a regular, nice lady. You know. I said that
she was white because she was white, and I'm not
saying that from a racial standpoint. And I said, ma'am,
hold on, I got an extra mask because I just
to order a box because I'm traveling Petrifat. So I
went over to my thing and she was so nice.
(50:00):
She was like, she told me her name, listen, miss Wendy.
I told her about the podcast. Hopefully she's listening. So
she was flying off to Minneapolis. I told her to
be safe and stay warm because it's cold over there.
So I'm sitting here, I'm talking lab on the Instagram.
About fifteen minutes late, fifteen minutes lady she comes coming back.
So I assumed that she look and missed her flight.
I said, miss Wendy, did you miss your flight? She
had a bag of peanuts in her hands. She says, no.
(50:21):
I just wanted to bring you this because I wanted
to give you something to your kindness. I say, oh,
miss Wendy, you didn't have to do that. I had
extra mass. I want you to be safe, she says no,
and I hope you're not allergic to nuts. It was
a timeless moment in my comedic man, because I was
like girl learning to him. I got my own set.
Oh my god, that lady fell out. But I say
(50:42):
that to say that that's all you have to do,
show somebody a kindness. You just never know how far
it'll go. And the way she made me feel coming
back to me at the You know, it had been
about fifteen minutes and let me know that I touched
that woman. So you touch somebody and it'll keep you
feeling with Joey. Feel with joy today. If you really
want to see my joy, catch me to my at
the City Wire in Atlanta, APM showtime, Me and Coco Brown.
(51:04):
I'm gonna give y'all all this joy. Bring money. I'm
selling fans and I will be selling kuchie if the
price is right.
Speaker 2 (51:09):
Okay, ladies, be kind, everyone be kind.
Speaker 4 (51:13):
You find a cucie on me, your price damn shore
will be right. Okay, y'all, thank you so much for
joining us here laughing larn. We'll catch you all next week.
And understand that a lot is going on in the world,
but nothing has changed right here with the model at
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Speaker 4 (01:40):
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to this week's episode of Laughing Learned Ladies. Jim, we
are so glad to be here. We are a day
and a day late, but never a dollar short, because
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Speaker 2 (02:02):
How's it gone.
Speaker 4 (02:03):
It's going good. I'm in Atlanta and it's cold. Ooh
it's cold, Bobby.
Speaker 2 (02:07):
What kind of cold?
Speaker 4 (02:07):
God give me twenty something degrees, like twenty nine. It's
cold in Atlanta.
Speaker 2 (02:12):
It's twenty nine. Here with the windshill, it's negative five.
Speaker 4 (02:15):
And it's not negative five.
Speaker 2 (02:17):
Yeah, it's negative. I had the dog out for a
walk this morning. I was gonna walk them and he
was taking so long to pee. Honest to god, it
was icicles coming out of his peepee. And even he
looked up at me, He's like, this is for the birds.
Speaker 4 (02:28):
We went home.
Speaker 2 (02:29):
I'm like, screw the walk, we're going on right.
Speaker 4 (02:31):
Look the people only got frozen in the truck trying
to come out of it. That's where they go.
Speaker 2 (02:35):
He was like, oh, we had the blanks and I'm like,
oh my god, this is the and it is. It
was the type that gets in you like it felt
like it was cutting me in two. It was really
and yesterday this is New England. Got to love New England.
It was fifty four degrees and everybody was walking around
in shorts and t shirts. And then today it's like
sub zero, negative five.
Speaker 4 (02:54):
Yeah, that's pneumonia weather. And with this new viaria, pneumonia
is running around flew whatever is. I'm gonna need y'all
to stay ready. If it's wrapping up season, stay wrapped up.
If it's getting naked season, and then get naked. But
in between, just say stay safe, okay, Bobby. Look, so
I am in Atlanta, lations Young because we are here
to film. I mean where we have a show at
(03:17):
the City Wineingy tomorrow night, Atlanta on the seventeenth, Me
and Coco Brown. If you have not gotten your tickets,
to get your tickets. It's a down one production. It's
going to be a fantastic show. We did press at
B one of three this morning. But let's get past
all of it. Let's get to the get to the
get to them. So where are we starting by? Because
you know, I think I want to start today, Bobby.
I was just listening to all of this, so I
(03:39):
kept wondering, why have the Proud Boys been so quiet?
I mean, we've seen some of those protests. Nazis so
cod supposed Nazis. They don't even know what a damn
Nazi really is. They just found something to follow on
the internet that made them feel whole as a person.
And they were doing all these youngsters that were protesting
with their mask on through Ohio and you know little
towns like that. But everybody had been so quiet, lady,
(04:02):
and you know who has been loud and now Proud
is Ice. That's because come to find out that the
majority of them have now become ice workers. So they're
getting paid for their racism and hate and rhetoric. Now
that's why they so quiet. Even the leader Tori his
name is His name is Terriso, the leader of the
(04:28):
Proud Boys is now and one of the Ice guys,
but he's in the upper echelone of Ice. He's not
one of the Rudi poots. He has a higher up position.
That's the same one who stuck the nan nannish dialo
up his ass will smell in his face. I wonder
what he's ticking up his But why Ice? I just
want to know. I just want to know.
Speaker 2 (04:48):
Oh, I don't know.
Speaker 4 (04:49):
I wanted to do the ice cube, ice tray, ice
ta ice cream ice skates.
Speaker 2 (04:56):
Well, nobody else wants the job. They were giving it.
One point, they were giving you a fifty thousand sign
on bonus. So I can see that hold.
Speaker 4 (05:05):
On, that was the advertisement that there was a fifty thousand.
Have you seen the discrepancy? Have you seen the discrepancies
now that a lot of the former ICE workers are
coming out and saying that they were promised to fifty
signing bonus and they have not received.
Speaker 2 (05:20):
Jack Diddley nothing, No, that's everything. I mean, that's sort
of the name of the game, including.
Speaker 4 (05:25):
The training that it would take to do law enforcement.
And more so than the physical hurt which they could
have shot that woman's tires last week, it is the
de escalation. These people are already angry and you give
them a weapon and immunity and tell them go go. Well,
you're just almost like police were the parking tickets. We
(05:47):
have a certain quota that we had to hit every month.
It's almost like they have a certain quota that they
have to kill with ice or detained or whatever they
need to do. I'm sorry, boy, what's your point?
Speaker 2 (05:57):
No, no, no, I was going to say, I mean
you made two great points there. ICE's job is not
to police. It's not what their job is this there
to go in, contain and remove. That's it. So it
is the it is the police who have learned and
been trained to de escalate. And because he had to
get this administration had to get more ice on the
(06:19):
boots on the ground, so to speak, he cut their
training in half. He made it in resemblance of him.
Forty seven days. That's the only training they have. Twenty
seven days isn't enough to give someone a weapon and
put them on the street and highly charged areas. It
just isn't.
Speaker 4 (06:38):
So.
Speaker 2 (06:38):
I mean, what happened in Minnesota was I mean, it's
so tragic, but it was. There's been more since. It's
been shooting since and flash bombs thrown at vehicles with
six month olds and little babies in them. Of course,
you know they were all in the hospital with breathing
all that in What do you think is going to happen?
So they need something they need to do better because
(06:59):
this isn't isn't working.
Speaker 4 (07:00):
It's not working at all. Bobby. You know what disgusted
me about Renee God, that whole renegold situation outside of
her blade murder from this ice guy, This this coward
was her father in law speaking out publicly like that
he didn't see any wrong with her getting I thought
that the father in law was barbaric, the ex husband,
the husband who had died speaking against this woman. This
(07:22):
woman lost her life because he didn't he didn't agree
with the fact that she had started dating a woman.
You have no protocol or no say so over how
somebody else is enjoying their life. You search should have
stayed in the background. I don't even know what kind
of grandfather you are. And I hope with that kind
of rhetoric and that kind of hate that he is
spewing to the world, that he does not get custody
(07:42):
of the grandchild because racist is a learned behavior.
Speaker 2 (07:46):
Yeah, that's what he's looking for, and that's what.
Speaker 4 (07:48):
He's going to teach that woman's child.
Speaker 2 (07:51):
Yeah, that's what he's looking for. You know, I don't
know if she handled because we have we have no investigation, right,
we have a federal investigation that's behind doors. They made
decisions about what was what had happened within an hour
of the incident. Of course, we don't know. We didn't
have enough information. I am sure, as we have spoken
about in last week's episode, that there are going to
(08:12):
be even more phones that will come that will show
different angles, that will give more information. You know, she
and her wife were going from protest to protest and
filming just so they could get it on camera about
actually what was happening. Was she right to try to
block or try to interfere so she could get those films.
I don't know. That's not up to me to decide,
(08:34):
but she certainly didn't deserve to lose her life over it.
We need to do better.
Speaker 4 (08:40):
We need to do better, Bobby. It is and we
have to. And the trauma that we were talking offline about.
I think we discussed this when they're actually happened with
we no go is that we keep seeing it every day,
just like I produced. They say, if we had to
keep watching George Floyd, we played back on us every
day and sometimes in our mindset we will fill a
like or where it was to me. It don't affect me,
(09:02):
it does affect you. You cannot unring that bell because
once you've seen it and that scene has been planted,
you cannot unseen. You can try as hard as you
want you to forget it, but something may happen and
it'll trigger you to relive that moment of seeing that
again over and over and over. That is dramatic to
us as American citizens, that we have to owe it
to people in general that we had to George Floyd.
(09:24):
We had to watch that over and over and over again.
We were not there to actually witness it, but we
did not witness it because y'all kept showing it, just
like they keep showing Renee Gold's murder from so many
different angles, Bobby, that's going to trigger somebody somewhere, especially
somebody young who don't have that mind already shaped, who
don't know who and what they are or their purpose,
(09:45):
and that can send them off to go do something
as bad as that, or to retaliate. You just never
know by because it is dramatic for all of us.
Speaker 2 (09:54):
You know who I feel the worst for in those circumstances,
Renee Goods kids. It's out there, you know. So she
had the six year old, but I believe her other
children were a little bit older than that. You don't
think they've seen it and watch their mom get get
killed and forever that's going to be. You know, they're
going to be playing on the anniversary on the Yeah.
Speaker 4 (10:17):
I feel bad for the children. But you know who
what really broke my heart the wife or the girlfriend.
Speaker 2 (10:22):
She was car so she was trying to get in.
Speaker 4 (10:26):
She was trying to get in.
Speaker 2 (10:28):
She could have been shot because remember first one was
through the windshield. The so let's even pretend, okay, that
he really was in fear of his life. He thought
that she was going to show I can't.
Speaker 4 (10:40):
I can't. My my imagination is never going to get
that small.
Speaker 2 (10:45):
But put your your imagination hat on for one second,
just for one second. So he did. He does the
one shot. Okay, that so we'll say that one's legitimate.
What about the two out of the side window as
she's driving past him?
Speaker 4 (10:57):
What about the tires? What about the one shot? Should
have been enough to scare me, It's enough to push
the break or or to make me really take off
because I'm in fear that you're trying to fucking kill me.
I can't. I feel bad for her because she was
standing right there, she saw her. You don't know what
kind of relationship they had. That could have been the
(11:18):
love of her life. And how do you get over
something like that? You know, it's just crazy, Bobby. But again,
we're still in the place now, him him going over
there here and gangster and we talking about when I
say him, were talking about the one in the in
the White House, going over there in Gangster and the
oil from Venezuela. You know who. I'm mortified by the
behind all of this whole situation, Bobby, that damn vice
(11:40):
president over there that has now become the president donating
her her She is, no, she's not the president. The
lady who donated her.
Speaker 2 (11:49):
She's she wants she wants to spot. So what she's
doing is I always think of your expression the overplay
for the underplay, right, So that's the Maria Karina Machado.
It was that she's looking for the president's spot, so
she thinks that she'll get his backing. She's giving him something.
She's giving him a secondhand pressures.
Speaker 4 (12:10):
Yes, she's given him a Nobel Priest price.
Speaker 2 (12:13):
She's regifted which she can't do right. This isn't Christmas.
You're not taking something that you don't care that much
about and passing it along for something better.
Speaker 4 (12:24):
Giving him the award won't give him the accolades. He
will not be respected by by the people who do.
Speaker 2 (12:30):
They said, you can't flame, you can't. They came out
before she did it. She actually did.
Speaker 4 (12:35):
Wait an we go back to that, but we haven't
heard that in quite some time. They said, what.
Speaker 2 (12:41):
That she can't do it?
Speaker 4 (12:43):
Don't you have to sweed him? Now? What is the
words I said?
Speaker 2 (12:46):
Because she can't. She can't do it. You got you.
You can't take something that was given to you and
then pass it on. What happens is probably this is
my guess, the Nobel Committee could then say, Okay, if
she doesn't want it, then who else? Who's the next
person that deserves it? You conscious choose somebody else, and
you certainly can't. This is like the worst white elephant
(13:08):
gift at Christmas time, where you know they're passing it along.
She's just looking for something. She wants his backing so
that she could get her bottom in that in that spot,
in that that golden chariot. So I did. He's he's
too much. I mean, he's talking about back to Minnesota.
He's he's threatening to invoke the Insurrection Act because he
(13:31):
knows that he's the only one that can actually do it.
Although I don't know how in the world he would
meet the qualifications, but he doesn't seem to to mind.
He does it regardless. So he just does what he wants.
He's thrilled to get the to get the air her
used reward, you know, the letter or whatever she actually
handed him, or the medal, the I don't know, she's
(13:53):
got to a statue. He's going to meddle something.
Speaker 4 (13:55):
I don't know. It's crazy, the the the audacity of
how they just do stuff and just so bold with
it and embold in with it. It's kind of like, wow, Bobby,
we have It's like the Democratic Party have given away
everything to me. They just see it. And Chuck Schumer,
(14:15):
I've been saying this for years. Chuck Schumer is a schmuck. Period.
Speaker 2 (14:21):
That's a perfect expression for him. He is. I think
Chucks has served his time. I don't Yeah, he's not
convincing or getting people to work together or we need
him to bring down the rhetoric as well, you know
(14:42):
everything every expression compy. We already know this flame that
Trump is bad, we know it. We already know so.
All right, so he's bad. How are you going to
work around? How are you going to get things done?
What are you going to do to make things better
instead of just complaining about them all the time. I'm
sort of sick. I'm over the Democrat doing that. I
(15:02):
saw just before you and I got on. I think
I told you I was trying to catch up on
some of my political shows, and I was watching Cuomo.
And what I love about Cuomo is that he will
have he will have a Democrat on as well as
a Republican on. And he had in this particular circumstance,
they were talking about healthcare, and he had Rocanna from California,
(15:23):
and then from Missouri. I think it's Mark Alfred. And
they spoke respectfully to each other, and they appreciated each other,
and they appreciated that each one of them had differences.
And I thought, this is what it's supposed to be,
things getting done, working, not sitting and screaming at each other.
And I would love to see Chuck Schumer get back
(15:45):
to doing some of that.
Speaker 4 (15:46):
Chuck Schumer is the reason I agree with there should
be term limits on politicians, because he should have been going.
He should have been gone. Miss McConnell should have been gone. Hell,
even my girl Nancy bulows he should have been gone.
Means that they should have been put in a position
to groom someone younger and more ready and more agile
to take over for them, as opposed to having an
(16:08):
in election. I have groomed this person. Not to say
that this person has all of my policies, but this
person understands what the job is to serve the American people.
They don't have that lobby. They don't.
Speaker 2 (16:20):
I agree with that, or a flip side of that
would be if they didn't want to have term limits.
They should be each person just like you and I.
We have a job, and we have a boss, and
our boss gives us a review at a certain time
and says, Okay, these are the things I'm seeing you do.
These are the things you have to do better. It's
up to us to say, okay, these are my accomplishments,
(16:41):
you know, like just to remind them they should be
the same thing. These congressmen and the senators, they should
have to have an actor or passed or worked on
these committees that pushed things forward. If you got thirty
eight bills, that's it. That is the lowest in history,
and that's all you've gotten done. You know, I think
everybody should be spanked, and we need a new little
(17:03):
bit new blood because if people aren't willing to work together,
I think it's ridiculous.
Speaker 4 (17:09):
Y yeah, Bobby beyond over it, so much over it
that we need to get to make sure that these
mid terms fall so blue that it can't turn on
the color. But the theory is, hopefully we won't be
in a war, Hopefully we're won't be in a crisis
to where we can't vote, you know, Hopefully rights won't
be stripped, stripped from different groups and organizations so that
(17:31):
we can all vote, you know, because according to what
they're trying to do, I don't know if they're trying
to remove the Civil re Acts so black people can't vote.
Are they trying to stop transgending people from voting. Are
they trying to stop women from voting? It's so many
keeping blocks. I know, I know, I know what's that?
(17:51):
And you know, body, that was funny, but that was
the truth, And that's terrible. That's terrible because now you're
just labeling everybody is something else. So it won't stop,
it'll never stop. Where woe So the only thing that
can vote is a Christian white nationalists man that they
view that's perfect for them. No no, no, no, no no no.
Speaker 2 (18:09):
In the top and the top so many percent, that's
really what they want. You know, they're not really looking
for the uneducated, low income person.
Speaker 4 (18:20):
They use, they use the uneducated, that's low income already,
they get what they needed for them. They got them
to vote to put him back in that position. That's
how he got in because that's what worked for him.
Speaker 2 (18:33):
Mm hmm.
Speaker 4 (18:35):
I had to go pick up an audioall. I'm sorry,
y'all was quick too.
Speaker 2 (18:39):
Why don't you Why don't you tell them what you got?
Speaker 4 (18:41):
I am not because Bobby don't like them and Aaron
doesn't eat pork. So my girlfriend said, how do you
lose weight? I say, eat less pork, eat more coucie.
I didn't that's not the word I used. But you
know this ain't stand up. And if y'all was on stage,
then y'all would get it for real. They said, what
am I gonna do there? I say, well, I guess
we'll both of them fair free, so let's go for.
Speaker 2 (19:02):
But maybe they're both protein.
Speaker 4 (19:05):
I don't know. When i'm them make you pregnant, so
it might not be fat free because nine months later
you might gain a whole bunch of weight.
Speaker 2 (19:11):
Ew No, no, ma'am, did you see that the Supreme
Court at the transgender sports are actually the Supreme Court?
I haven't paid much attention, Like, I don't know when
they are slated to come back with a decision, I
don't know if that's going to be. You know, they
seem to take him up with a lot of stuff
like in May June. But I thought this will kind
(19:33):
of be interesting to see where they're well.
Speaker 4 (19:36):
You're tottering on the fence. They don't know which way
they're going to go. Borderline, I have no opinion on
which way. I personally, thank you. Personally, I think I
know which way is going to go. I think they're
playing it out for to say face, because they're trying
to see what it's going to happen with this administration.
But personally, Bobby, I wish we weren't even here. Personally,
(19:59):
as a as a person of trans experience, I wish
that we weren't even here. I wish that we had
my thing whose I've always seen, just created a lane
for trans athletes, because here's the thing. If we lose
in the Supreme Court, then now the trans athletes have
no place to compete. They have no place to play,
they have no place to showcase their god given talent
(20:21):
because they don't have a place to call their own
and say, every man's home exactly every man's home is
his castle. This is what Robin Hood's see it. So
if you got your own space, that's your castle. But
you're right, Bobby, Now, you'll never know how great you
could have been because you don't have no place to
(20:42):
be great. You were trying to be great someplace where
you were not welcome. And with all the hate and
division that's coming down from the top, I'm afraid for
these teen athletes, these teens trans athletes that if they
do better than the girls or the biological girls or whatever,
they're going to be hurt, harmed, you know, possibly kill.
(21:02):
That is where we are at.
Speaker 2 (21:04):
Yeah, and I agree, and not necessarily even by the athletes,
but by people who don't understand parents who disgruntled you know,
adults is more who I think will bother.
Speaker 4 (21:13):
Them, those people who wanted something fair. You see something
out in the world. You have a daughter, You have
a son, I have a daughter, or imagine if you
had a daughter. You train and you watch that girl
go through it hard, working hard to be number one,
to be the best female in that division that she could.
Just to allow somebody else who had family cut their mind,
(21:37):
their mind caught up with their with how they identify
and they were allowed to become how they truly felt.
But then you go up against my daughter and you were,
like you said, but you already have an age. Absolutely not,
absolutely not. I would never agree with that as even
if I wasn't a parent. I just the way I
see things is maybe maybe a little different from other people.
(21:59):
But I like people to be treated fairly.
Speaker 2 (22:02):
I do. And I like you saying that the trans
Olympics because we have the special Olympics that theys Toner Shriver,
we have the power Olympics. Ye, that are almost as
as people well watched as the regular Olympics are. So
if we have those lanes, why can't we make it?
And maybe we need to sit and look. I don't
know if there would be any other lane for any
(22:22):
other reason.
Speaker 4 (22:23):
I believe that those talks have been to the table,
but it was the powers that be over in the
trans people and who felt like they weren't being treated fairly,
that it was being discriminatory. I don't believe that at all.
But I believe that you should have wanted to be
someplace that you felt safe.
Speaker 2 (22:40):
Yeah, I would think so too. I would date.
Speaker 4 (22:43):
Every kind of trans daughter, and she's fifteen, sixteen years old,
and she run against the girls of wool Woo and
they all her girlfriends. And then she decides to join
the girls track team and she beats them all. They're
not gonna be her girlfriends no more, and she's not
gonna be considered one of the girls. This is still
competite and that teen rivalry. That that, oh my god,
(23:08):
that is we thought we were bad as adults. Them
teens are rough. The only reason I know that is
because I live with two and I used to listen
to them going back and forth. I'm like, oh my god,
what have this world becomes? The teen and the teen
girls of Mean Girls, A lot of the teen girls
of Mean Girls, and they say nothing is off limits.
They will tell your soul, your heart at your chest
(23:29):
while you're standing looking at them. So yeah, it is.
It's almost setting yourself up a failure, Bobby, if you
ask me, yeah, I don't. I don't.
Speaker 2 (23:38):
I don't understand it myself. But I always want to
sit in I don't want to ever be anywhere. But
this is just me that and I don't in this
particular conversation. I don't have a lot that I can
say because I don't have a trans child, and I'm
not trans myself, but I would always want my kid
to be someway that was safe, that they felt welcomed,
et cetera. And the other piece of that, you know
(24:00):
what I was thinking of. I'm thinking of like the
ice skaters and stuff. I had a girlfriend's child who
was ice skating. They were very good, but they didn't
end up going as far as the Olympics. That said,
the money she used to put in, they used to
be up at three and four in the morning to
get ice time. She spent tens of thousands of dollars
(24:20):
every year. And to think you're trying to give your
kid the edge for the sport and then to have
somebody who comes in that's a little stronger, that could
push and jump and do whatever better, I think I'd
be a little devastated, to be quite honest with you. Anyway,
That's enough about that. But I just didn't know if
(24:40):
you had heard it or you were following it. I know,
I don't want to beat it to death and then
have everybody hating our gay.
Speaker 4 (24:45):
Yeah. Well, I'm following it because Bobby, it is news
for me, and it is news for my listeners a
lot of things that I do not agree with, and
it's not going I say that I don't want them
to change it, but I was always looking out for
the entire spectrum that if we do lose this, then
we the trans athletes because I'm not an athlete. I'm
not I'm not an athlete. I don't compete in sports.
But now the ones that that is what they're calling
(25:07):
is won't have a place to call it on the
prof see that, And that's all I was ever saying.
So why why push the envelope? Why force that when
there's another option? There was always another option, but they
didn't want that option. They wanted to be somewhere else,
and I just don't agree with that. On let's Bobby,
(25:29):
let's go to Iran, because Iran like Iran like y'all
going to come up off of us. So we're gonna
show you that Iran apparently has put out a threat
towards Trump to say that the next the next hit
won't miss, as if they were saying that they did
that one. Before we touch on that, y'all, though, I
gotta go, Pete, We're gonna take a commercial break, and
(25:54):
we're back that was the quickest p ever. Oh my god,
if it was only that fast, I think that is.
And I'm telling you, Bobby, going to a war right now,
with the economy, with the disgruntlement of America. I've seen
a politician I want to say he was from the UK,
(26:17):
said that America is I can't. I hate that. I
doesn't write his name. Now is probably the most dangerous
country right now. That is just the unsafest country. Baby.
We have lost so many tourists coming here, has lost
twenty five thousands, and you know, and then we just
had these horrible wildfires last year allegedly on their own,
(26:39):
but you know, people here who live in California believe
that they were removed so that they could have the
Olympics here. Bobby, with the state of the world the
way it is, I don't believe the Olympics is going
to come to America. And with that being said, so
you tell me that these alleged wildfires that burned down,
burned all these people out of their homes for it
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was all in vain. So now, because now we're going
to lose that Olympic money because people are afraid to
come here because ice is out of control.
Speaker 2 (27:09):
I personally would be I probably would let my child come,
but I would I'd be terrified because the athletes.
Speaker 4 (27:19):
I'm talking about the I'm talking about all of them.
Speaker 2 (27:22):
Yeah, I'm talking about the whole kitten kaboodle, because it
looks crazy people being shot in the street, you know,
not just the immigrants. I mean they had. It was
just on the news this week. They had a seventeen
year old kid. I think he was in Target. He
was grabbed. He's an American, he was born here, and
they had him and they beat him up. I think
(27:44):
that they brought him somewhere. Then they had to release
them and they realized he's an American kid. But you know,
we don't hear what I'm sorry or and I guess
he didn't hear war. I'm sorry either. But I'd be
nervous too, even if I had the papers. I guess
if you have, if you have any type of papers,
just to walk all around with them, which I was
always trying. You know, you hide your passport, you keep
it somewhere, put it in the safe or whatever, but
(28:05):
I guess you gotta gotta wear it around your badge
like a lanyard for the love of God, and I
don't even know if that will keep them safe. No,
but I Aron scares me. Yeah, you know, this is
a country. And maybe it's because when we were kids,
you had the whole you know, Iran Contra thing, and
and you high president.
Speaker 4 (28:27):
With you. Oh my god, it would make his name,
would make your blood curdle when you heard the stories
throughout him, you know, so it was just a lie.
And to know that they have so many sense that
Irene Iran Contra affair under Ronald Reagan on the under
that administration, they have some of the same weapons of
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mass destruction that we have, and who knows how far
alone they are with what. So what they're telling us
on the news is oh, oh they we get rid
of them. We blew up all their stations. You blew
up what they wanted you to know that they had,
just like we have what you guys want us to
know that you have. Because they say that the way
according to media, it wasn't seeing An. I want to
(29:10):
say it was MSNBC. The reason that we were so
easy for Trump to acquire the President Maduro from Venezuela
is because they have these new sound things. Bobby with
the drones and so the sound affects your brains and
buckles you to your knees. It made me think about
the movie The Incredible Hulk, because they had those in
The Incredible Hulk to stop the Hawk, and it was
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just sound. It gets up in your heads like this
and I'm Bobby, and they buckled them to their knees
to where they was helpless. That's why there was the
very few shootings when Maduro was acquired from Venezuela, when
he was snatched up out of Venezuela. Oh, Bobby, So
those are things that we don't hear about. Those are
things that they don't talk about on the news here.
(29:54):
I think we know all the secrets.
Speaker 2 (29:56):
They were actually one hundred people. CNN was reporting one
hundred peopeople that were actually killed in that in that movement.
You know, they kept saying, oh, so few, so few
people were shot or killed. I think one hundred people
is but yeah, I mean it's crazy. It's under every
every presidency or there has been some sort of like
(30:20):
I said, we had Carter with it, we had Reagan
with it, with with Aaron, there's always trouble. So it
really this it scares me that it's you know, it's
like recycling it back up. And these are people that
will go down with their counts.
Speaker 4 (30:32):
They are not like, Yes, Trump was speaking on something earlier.
I seen it earlier today, speaking about with They asked
him about immunity for presidents. So he said, well, with
all the accusations that you're throwing at Obama, are you
worried about Obama? You know the immunity affected him. He says, well, no, no,
I'm not really worried about it, but it's going to
(30:53):
affect all the people around him. So you know you
had to think that, right, So this is just a
boomerang to you. So with all the carnage that Trump
is happening, happening under his watch through his administration, because
of the immunity clause, with him, nothing will happen. But
everybody around him, from Stephen Miller to all the other
knuckleheads chrome I mean known tould tell all the other hexi,
(31:20):
those would be the ones that will be the collateral
damage in the flight trying to get to him and
will tell everything that he did. But because he has
immunity as a president, nothing will affect him. But it's
almost like what damn so everybody know they're going to
get thrown up under the bus. They're just making enough
money now to be able to support their family while
they're going away.
Speaker 2 (31:40):
Yep, yep, it's it's pretty scary stuff.
Speaker 4 (31:46):
You know what hurt me though, Bobby. The other day
I was watching Mark oh Hey shot his wife, politician
expert Mark Kelly. I had brain fart, Mark.
Speaker 2 (32:00):
Kelly, he shot his wife.
Speaker 4 (32:03):
No, no, no, I was watching him speak if I have.
They are trying to partially take away partia his part
of his his pension and demot his title. And and
I'm like, this man has served many years in the military,
a couple of tours in war, really fast country everything
(32:26):
just because a hot head, a drunken hot head, wants
to get angry because he told the military that you
signed up to defend the constitution, not one person who
can make decisions that you're knowing not wrong. I thought
he was If anybody should be awarded a courage medal
right now, because that's what's missing in the country's courage.
(32:48):
I think Mark Kelly should get one. I thought that
was so courageous for him to speak out like that.
Speaker 2 (32:54):
I like him as a person. I think He is
a good I love his wife, and I love how
he has stood by all these years, you know, with
her impairments and whatnot. Although she really she came back,
she has trouble with her communication. It's all up there.
I think. I don't know. How could you imagine me
with that not being able to get my words out?
Oh my god, that would be I could lose my mind.
(33:14):
You could watch me literally melt into a big puddle in.
Speaker 4 (33:18):
Front of you the comedience. Man and me just went somewhere.
But I'm not going to say that publicly.
Speaker 2 (33:25):
But I agree too. I think what a small for
saying the right thing. What he said legally was correct.
It is your duty not to follow in a legal
order given to you, not a rightful or adjust They
were trying to say that. And the fact that they
can really only get him and punish him, I thought,
you know, this is all. It's funny. President Trump has
(33:49):
complained that people go after him everything is politically motivated.
What is more politically motivated than this? I don't know.
I don't think anything.
Speaker 4 (34:00):
I just loved I loved to see men even in
the face of adversity. And mind you, he has lots
of reasons to tuck his tail and move. They Even
though it wasn't the maga that shot his wife Gabigift
for years ago, it was something deranged, whatever he was,
it's still the fact that they got that close to
(34:20):
him and for him to still stand on his little
hymn Nancy Pelosi, so many others who really have just
taken that all and said no, right is right and
wrong is wrong. Those are the people that are not
getting commendation. And those are people that's not getting the
respect out of this country that I think they should
because it's so busy to everybody's the fear, the fear
(34:41):
of I'm going to lose my position, the fear I'm
going to have to gravel and bow down. And Bobby
I said on The Breakfast Club in twenty nineteen that
I never liked none courageous men, by the way, but
I sit on there that are a gay white man
in America is still a white man in America. Two
gay white podcasters win after Jasmine Crockett so hard about
(35:01):
three weeks ago told people not to donate money to
her and everything. No repercussions for them, not because they
were gay, but because they were white They did apologize
for it afterwards, but the damage had already been done.
Speaker 2 (35:16):
What was the rationale?
Speaker 4 (35:17):
Do you know she's a loud black woman who will
I'm like, she sees you, she's voting for you. You
know what happened to me, to me with the community,
with the LGBT, but not all the lg I caould
say with a lot of with the trans community and
some of the especially these younger gays and younger trans,
you wanted to be seen. They saw you already, You
had every right afforded to man. You wanted to be seen.
(35:41):
Give me when I tell you, they see you? Do?
They see you? They don't like what they see, but
they see you, and it is scary. It's terrifying.
Speaker 2 (35:53):
Not for the right reasons that you always want to
be seen for the right reasons.
Speaker 4 (35:56):
That's the reason I say it the way I said it,
Because they see you. Yeah. The Colorista was the two guys,
the two gay podcasters that spoke against. Just for clarifications,
these were the two gay guys who spoke against Jasmine Crockett.
I'm probably not that correctly. L A c U L
R I S T A S c U L You
(36:18):
are I T a s the Colorista. That's the podcast
going well. And I'm telling you, if you're in a
bad place, or if you think you down or you trouble,
and I'm telling you we all living with troubles right
now in America. O oh my god, do they see you?
I hear it. And I said it on the Breakfast
Up in twenty nineteen, my very first interview, that a
(36:38):
gay white man in America is still a white man
in America. And Charlomagne said he still has that privilege,
and I said, boom, there it is because understand that
if I would have spoke against such a public platform
like that, against their leader, my platform will probably be done.
And they work for iHeart, the same network we're on here.
You hear me when I tell you, O tunities to everybody.
(37:01):
It's just that everybody takes don't take the opportunity to
use it wisely. They did put a pussy as apology up,
but accord Yard producer, it was only in their stories
and it disappears after twenty four hours. Take your apology
and stick you with the same place where you stick
one of those low penises.
Speaker 2 (37:16):
At what I want to do for foot fan the
flame I actually sent you a couple of pieces because
we're talking about seeing so I just thought it was
a great segue into it that something that people are
so thirsty for and hungry for is peace and love
and something to bring the rhetoric down in kindness. Have
(37:36):
you seen this? These Buddhist monks that are going from
Texas to DC over one hundred and twenty days, twenty
three hundred miles they're walking with I don't know how
many of them. It looks like there's no more than fifteen.
They're walking with a stray dog that they had gotten
India when they were doing something similar name Maloka. And
(37:59):
the people that are come out. The person who kind
of is leading the charge that the head monk so
to speak, said that he thought he thought there might
be one or two people on the roads, but he
didn't think there would be much. They were doing it
because everything they do is kind of quiet, and you know,
they're not doing stuff for recognition. That way, the thousands
(38:20):
of people that are lining the roads and thanking them
and give, you know, gifting them and supporting them and
listening to them speak, is it absolutely touches my heart.
I follow that walk and then because you do. You know,
the algorithm grabs shoot. So people who are standing on
the side, you get it, like their clips. It is amazing.
(38:42):
And so we always say, like, what can you do?
These are the things you do? People? You show up,
You show up, and you vote. You in a peaceful protest,
we see now, do not get in a car or
have anything that would be considered to be a weapon.
Really take the tenants of Martin Luther King, and it's
his birthday this weekend, so you know that it's a
(39:03):
perfect timing but peaceful protest, that those are things that
are certainly going to make a difference. I am dying.
I haven't heard this. I'm dying to see when they
get to DC. What's going to happen there. Do you
think the Cheeto is going to come out and look
at them or listen to.
Speaker 4 (39:20):
The absolutely not. First of all, that he should be
giving them around the applause because they have on his
favorite color, which is orange. Second of all, nobody really
messed with monks because monks are such a mysterious religion.
You really don't know how to handle them, but to
stay on your side of the road. And it's not
to say that they're violent. They only preach calm and quiet,
(39:44):
and you know, but you never know what they're carrying
up under them, Orae's dresses that they walk around here.
Ain't no telling them what's up under them Orae's dresses.
And they got on some damn sandals. You don't know
what they're harboring. But for every time I've ever and
what you say, it spoke volumes because here's the thing.
They did that quietly. But so many people like you said,
I've seen the videos where they're lining up and they're
(40:05):
applauding them, and they're giving them all of this energy
of joy and thing it's hope, because that's what's fucking
said in America. We haven't any more hope because we
look at this flass record, this monster on TV every
single day that steals our joy, that steers steals our
American values and our democracy. So the monks are showing
(40:26):
us that there is this much. What the faith says,
all you need is faith the size of a mustard seed.
If fifteen months are the mustle seed that we need
to turn America around, goddamn it, Sammy up for it.
I'm all in by the clipper because we're losing, and
we're losing fast.
Speaker 2 (40:43):
Yeah, they didn't even get national coverage. Somebody sent it
into to Anderson Cooper and that's the only national coverage.
They've got local coverage and it's been amazing and a
lot of this This is what really touches my heart
because I think they're really walking through red states. I
don't think they've gone through a bluestate yet. And so
(41:04):
to see the people that in the volumes of people
that are coming out and you just said, it's hope people.
American people, for the most part are wonderful people who
have hope and they want to help people. And this
kind of shows that there's a small subset that is
that is making everybody nuts. But anyway, if anybody has
(41:24):
a chance to watch these, just plug into your you know,
if you put into Instagram walk for peace, it will
it will pop up.
Speaker 4 (41:32):
It will turn your it will turn your frown to
a smile because you will see that we're not the
only ones feeling the way we are feeling. But somebody
is actually putting in a protests. And these these monks
are religious people like real connected to Jesus, so to
the book, Yes to Me it's all the same thing.
(41:53):
It's one person. It is it's the spirit, it's the
soul that you believe here. But they are very connected.
And I'm telling you, if that's what it's going to take,
hopefully it'll make a real change. And I love the
fact that nobody has tried to harm him. Nobody has.
And you, like you said about it, they're walking through
the real estace. You know, it's it's some hot their
feet there.
Speaker 2 (42:13):
And there feet their feet are like you know, they're cut.
And oh even so one of them was driving in
one of the vans because you know, at some point
it gets too darker, too colds. You know, they're going
to the hotel. They usually try to walk anyway. The
van was hit and so this is even a nicer story.
Not this part of the story isn't nice. He was hit.
They fractured his legs so badly in the accident. His
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leg had to be amputated, so that that poor monk
actually had to that Buddhist prasect actually had to go back,
not monk to go back to you know, wherever they're
they're from, the temple that they're from, because their their
vehicle was was totaled. Somebody donated one to be able
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to keep this, this movement going. Oh my God, that
touched my heart. I'm telling you, my eyes fill up.
I watch them at the end of the night before
I go to bed, and that's when I say, I said,
there is hope that is out there. I hope to
God when they go to DC they're met with some
sort of positive energy and not just the range energy.
(43:18):
If you want to see the monks that is on
Walk for Peace, put in Walk for Peace. Even put
that into your Google search engine and if you want
to learn more about it, why they did it, when
they started it, and whatnot. I think they're on day
eighty three, so they have a ways to go, and
they might be coming to an area if we're.
Speaker 4 (43:38):
About because you moved me out the water something. Are
they completely barefoot? No sandals or anything?
Speaker 2 (43:44):
A lot of them.
Speaker 4 (43:45):
Yeah, I would have to talk to the leader, like,
look at your player. Now. I know you could afford
me some nikes or some you could have gave I
would have woren some Walmart sneakers. It wouldn't even matter.
You had to give me some of them put on
my feet.
Speaker 2 (43:55):
No, some of them have something on. Not a lot
of them, but a lot of them are doing your
barefoot because that's months. That's how they they travel.
Speaker 4 (44:03):
But this is they want to do cold climate states.
Speaker 2 (44:08):
So here's the good thing. So remember I said there
are tons of people that are on the sides of
the road. There have been physical therapists that have come
out to meet them at the end. They are podiatrists
that are there to treat their feet every night. There
are masseuses that are there to try to keep them,
keep them healthy so that they can keep walking. Because
that's the biggest fear is that they're doing this and
this is wonderful, but you know our bodies. The average
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age is what the lead guy is and he's forty four,
so there I think it goes to seventy something, and
then there's somebody that's twenty something. There's a there's a
monk that's twenty something. So they're trying to keep them healthy.
And you know, in your forties, when you hit your
forties like we did, it is talking about stop saying
thirty nine. You hit forty. But when you get out
(44:54):
of bed, it's not quite the same as when you
used to hop out of the bed in your twenties.
So I love that, I love support.
Speaker 4 (45:00):
I get a question. I have a question, though, body,
because now I've been trying do the monk's religion practice?
Are they celibacy? No sex?
Speaker 2 (45:09):
I believe, so I really don't know a lot. I'll
have to I'll have to agree.
Speaker 4 (45:13):
An wait a minute, I got because now I really
get questions like I'm barefoot, I'm watching for a cause.
I get all that, but I can't even bust the
nut every now and again, hold on, play a hold all.
Speaker 2 (45:22):
Yeah, like not monks so yet. Traditional Buddhist monks and
nuns practice strict, strict, lifelong celibacy is a core part
of their vows.
Speaker 4 (45:32):
Can masturbate.
Speaker 2 (45:35):
I think it means whatever you think it means. And
I'm not being fresh like that that's a loophole.
Speaker 4 (45:42):
That was a joke.
Speaker 2 (45:47):
But I think that I just know this for times
in my life that have been dry. The longer you
don't have it, the more you don't even care about it,
like it's it doesn't become part when you're used to
having it. Then that's a problem, you know. Just like
French fries, go without French fries for a while, I can.
Speaker 4 (46:07):
Miss a fry too. I don't even gonna miss the
busting down there. I miss that. Hold on, that's not
you could, that's not that's not the same kind of comparison.
Body so here everything like somebody who ain't had no
penis in quite Sometimes it work it.
Speaker 2 (46:19):
A long time, so enforce the strict celibacy, prohibiting even
physical contact with women, many of them, so they're not
saying physical contact with themselves. So whatever.
Speaker 4 (46:32):
I bet you they got some techniques. I need. I
need to find out what they masturbating techniques, I wondered,
as they go deep into the spiritual realm. I had
to close out with fun. Listen, ladies, gentlemen, we are
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(46:54):
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(48:16):
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Speaker 4 (48:19):
Well, let me tell you guys this. You guys understand
that hope is a word right now that we have
to hold on to and make it so big that
we all believe in the same thing, which is getting
democracy back into a safe country that we live in.
That's what we need right now. That is what we
want to keep. So in order to do that, we
have to pray together, we have to see each other
(48:40):
for whoever we are, and we got to get assets
to the pose and vote.
Speaker 2 (48:44):
Absolutely, it's coming. It's you know, ten or eleven short months.
It's here before you know it. It really is. Look
at we just did a year with him, and look
how in some days it seems like the longest year
of my life, but in others it's gone by in
a flash. And a blink of an eye. So those
those elections are going to be here. Find out all
(49:04):
of your family and friends who did not vote in
the last election. Get them to the polls. That's what
we need. We need that nine million to to have
their voices heard.
Speaker 4 (49:16):
I think they got some of that nine million, got
a lot of their services cut off. We might not
have to ask them. I think they'll be there. They
need to know what decisions need to be made. Please
be protective, be safe for yourself, Be kind, Please be kind.
Let me tell you what kindness does. I'm filled with
joy because yesterday we were I was traveling at the
airport in lax Quick Story, and there was I was
gemail a little snacks on water, my chocolate milk compressors,
(49:40):
and it's this white woman came over to ask the
guy they had any more masks. He says, no, we
don't have any more masks. She was just she just
was a regular, nice lady. You know. I said that
she was white because she was white, and I'm not
saying that from a racial standpoint. And I said, ma'am,
hold on, I got an extra mask because I just
to order a box because I'm traveling Petrifat. So I
went over to my thing and she was so nice.
(50:00):
She was like, she told me her name, listen, miss Wendy.
I told her about the podcast. Hopefully she's listening. So
she was flying off to Minneapolis. I told her to
be safe and stay warm because it's cold over there.
So I'm sitting here, I'm talking lab on the Instagram.
About fifteen minutes late, fifteen minutes lady she comes coming back.
So I assumed that she look and missed her flight.
I said, miss Wendy, did you miss your flight? She
had a bag of peanuts in her hands. She says, no.
(50:21):
I just wanted to bring you this because I wanted
to give you something to your kindness. I say, oh,
miss Wendy, you didn't have to do that. I had
extra mass. I want you to be safe, she says no,
and I hope you're not allergic to nuts. It was
a timeless moment in my comedic man, because I was
like girl learning to him. I got my own set.
Oh my god, that lady fell out. But I say
(50:42):
that to say that that's all you have to do,
show somebody a kindness. You just never know how far
it'll go. And the way she made me feel coming
back to me at the You know, it had been
about fifteen minutes and let me know that I touched
that woman. So you touch somebody and it'll keep you
feeling with Joey. Feel with joy today. If you really
want to see my joy, catch me to my at
the City Wire in Atlanta, APM showtime, Me and Coco Brown.
(51:04):
I'm gonna give y'all all this joy. Bring money. I'm
selling fans and I will be selling kuchie if the
price is right.
Speaker 2 (51:09):
Okay, ladies, be kind, everyone be kind.
Speaker 4 (51:13):
You find a cucie on me, your price damn shore
will be right. Okay, y'all, thank you so much for
joining us here laughing larn. We'll catch you all next week.
And understand that a lot is going on in the world,
but nothing has changed right here with the model at
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only trying to get you to use your mind. Because
why Bobby, Because your.
Speaker 2 (51:33):
Mind and your vote are a terrible thing to waste.
Speaker 4 (51:36):
Terrible thing to waste, So don't waste either one. We
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