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Speaker 1 (00:02):
I'm a homegirl that knows a little bit about everything
and everybody. You know, if you don't lie about that,
right came, Hey, y'all was up into Laura the Rosa
and this is another episode of the Latest with Lauren Rosa.
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Speaker 2 (00:21):
Baby. So you guys know, we always.
Speaker 1 (00:23):
Kick off the Latest checking in behind the scenes of
the grind.
Speaker 2 (00:27):
So let's get two its.
Speaker 1 (00:33):
So, coming off of a very rust field weekend, I
went home to Delaware this weekend and did a bunch
of nothing with my family. Well, we technically did things,
but it was technically us taking some time to do nothing.
Like I mean as far as like all the ripping
and running and things. My grandma literally said to me
about like a week ago. She was like, you always
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coming here with something to do, You always ripping and running.
You need to sit down. And I was like, all right,
So these next couple of weekends that you know, I'm
just here. I'm working during the week and I got
my weekends free. I'm gonna take some time. So I
went home this weekend. We played cards on Friday, literally
all night long. My grandmother loves to play spades, so
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we played space and I was tired, y'all. We did
the Breakfast club on Friday, and then after that I
went home and slept for about an hour. Drove to Delaware,
about a two hour drive, and then we played Space
from about four or five o'clock all the way.
Speaker 2 (01:26):
To like twelve thirty in the morning.
Speaker 1 (01:29):
Okay, y'all know my grandma woke up the next day
talking about can we play another game of spades. I'm like,
mamm we don't even have any players left at this point.
Everybody is spades out. We also ate crabs, and you know,
just spent time. Normally, when I'm home with my mom
and my grandmother, we always watch movies. They love Tyler Perry,
so we do a lot of the Tyler Perry movies.
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So Saturday I did that with them up until I
went out to dinner with some friends. We watched Why
Did I Get Married? And then we watched Why Did
I Get Married?
Speaker 2 (01:59):
Too?
Speaker 1 (02:00):
On Sunday Sunday morning before I head it back home. Yeah,
so yeah, this weekend was good. I think going home
it's always like a reset. I don't know, if I
get the type arrest that I get when I'm in
Jersey because I'm like secluded, I'm in my apartment, I'm
by myself, I'm able to like sleep and just kind
of like be in silence. In delaware's a little bit
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different because you know, when you're home, everybody wants to
make sure you get a chance to see them or whatever,
and I'm not always able to do all of that.
But it is definitely a reset, Like it feels good
coming back into like such a busy paced like city
and like work life after being home where you know,
things are a little bit like nobody cares about work.
Everybody just wants to, like in real life, just like
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catch up and spend time. So yeah, we got to
do that. So shout out to my guass. We got
to do that. And I mean that's something that we
do often. But it's been a while, y'all know, We've
been on the go everywhere from you know, LA for
BT Awards weekend to Essence Festival to just trying to
get a day or two a sleeping in between. Like
right now is really the season where I'm grinding, Like
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I'm grinding, grinding, grinding, trying to be very conscious why
I don't grind myself into the ground, but I'm very
aware that, like this is a season where like I
got our prioritize, like checking some things off of the list,
checking some boxes before I can like just chill. So,
speaking of girls that are out here on her grind,
let's get on into the latest because Angel Rees is
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having some issues and it's because she's a black woman.
Speaker 2 (03:31):
But what's new. Let's talk about it.
Speaker 1 (03:35):
So Angel Rees, who we know, recently transferred to the
Atlanta Dream and when she switched teams, when she headed
to Atlanta to the Atlanta Dream, it was such a
big deal because Angel Rees is phenomenal. But also, like
I have to think what we're beginning to watch happen
with a WNBA, because y'all know, I'm not like a
big sports person, Like I'm not religiously watching any team
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or any game or any series or anything like that.
Speaker 2 (04:00):
But there is an element.
Speaker 1 (04:01):
Of celebrity to the conversation around certain players, around certain teams,
around certain things that are happening within you know, the WNBA,
the NBA, And that's where I tap in and that's
where I pay attention, you know, Angelies. I actually like
years years, years and years ago when Ajuries had first
got to college.
Speaker 2 (04:21):
I remember.
Speaker 1 (04:23):
Being in the newsroom and there being conversations about Anguries
because she was They tried to make it seem like
she was causing issues on the floor because she was
competitive in the game, and that really wasn't it.
Speaker 2 (04:36):
The issue was that, you know, a lot of times,
when you're.
Speaker 1 (04:38):
A black woman, you're good at what you do, you're
confident in that, and you're not afraid to tell people
or show that. It turns into that, it turns into
what we do too much of whether we're too aggressive
or we're too competitive, where we don't know how to
you know what I mean, Like, I think the world
loves to try and humble us a bit. And when
I remember the earliest conversations I remember around angel Rees
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is the conversation of about you know, people were trying
to say she was so ghetto because she was coming
out of Baltimore and then there was a moment with
her and Caitlyn Clark and you know, and I just
remember feeling like, Wow, I know what it's like to
be that girl that's from around that's good at some
things or even if you're not good at you confident
in the fact that you've been hearing you trying it
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and people don't really know.
Speaker 2 (05:21):
How to take it. So you got to carve out
a space for yourself.
Speaker 1 (05:24):
And all these years later, we are back here Andresa's
had tons of success, championship wins, She's been on the
cover of Vogue, you know, has a very successful podcast.
Speaker 2 (05:34):
She is a brand of business and is excelling.
Speaker 1 (05:39):
And we're back here having a conversation about the color
of her skin.
Speaker 2 (05:42):
Because there is a coach who.
Speaker 1 (05:45):
Heads up the Toronto Tempo and this head coach, Sandy
bron Dello, was suspended without pay for one game because
she was upset at a call that did or did
not happen when it came to Angelry. So here's what
went down during the dream the Atlanta Dreams game where
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they were playing Toronto on this past Friday, which they won,
by the way, they won one eleven and ninety two.
A player named Niara Sabali fouled angel Rees after after
an offensive rebound took place.
Speaker 2 (06:19):
Right, So the.
Speaker 1 (06:21):
Call is being reviewed and the coach, Miss Sandy Brundello,
yelled at the referees right and now she's yelling microphones
pick her up, saying, Angel, she's a protected species. Hold
up now, Yes, this is a very very very white
woman that is saying this. Not only can I don't
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I don't care who you are referring to a black woman,
a black person as any type of species. It's just
like common sense of like no, pretty freaking races shouldn't
do that. But I think, uh, you're a white woman.
This is a black woman. Like it's just all all
of the surrounding things around It would have been a
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huge signal or red flag to anybody. I don't care
where you come from, because I've seen some outlets saying
that Brondello is from Australia and that in Australia they
use the term protect the species in their sports environment
to express like frustration over like a lack of cause
against players and like whatever, I don't care where you're
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from when you're here, or even if you're there, even
if a Angel Reese or whatever black person, black woman
was playing Australia. You gotta there's certain things in certain
lines you don't cross. So she says this, It gets
picked up on a mic as she's yelling at the refs,
and of course it causes a widespread conversation. It made
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it to Twitter and Angel Reese responded and added her
and said, so there was a person that was watching
the game that said call them the black woman a
species dot and Angel rees said, are we surprised?
Speaker 2 (07:56):
And then tagged the coach with the clown face? So
now you.
Speaker 1 (08:03):
Know what I'm saying, since she wants to talk about
protective species. Uh, this coach, Brondelo will miss the Tempo's
next the Temple's next game against the Las Vegas Aces.
So the WNBA put out a statement and they said,
the w NBA expects all coaches and team personnel to
uphold the higher standard of professionalism and respect that are
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fundamental to our league. And then Brondelo issued an apology
early on Saturday, which of course she had to.
Speaker 2 (08:30):
I mean she plays with all black women. That's another thing.
It's like.
Speaker 1 (08:36):
Every time one of these instances happened, people will love
to argue, like what is of Like, okay, she said
this word because she's from like where she's from, it's
okay because it's known as this. But like you're with
a bunch of black women, you're playing, you're where you're
working in a w NBA, from coaches to staff to
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the actual players, like you're hearing and seeing the things
that they are experiencing and having a battle in real life.
No matter where you're from, your life experience should have
taught you enough by now at Broundello's big age, because
she looks old at her big age, that you should
have known that that was It's just not acceptable to
even Paedi tu in conversation. What happened was she didn't
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think it would be picked up. She didn't think people
would hear her, and we did. So she issued an apology.
She said, Angel, I'm sorry last night, in the emotion
of the moment after Naiara's injury, I use a phrase
that I shouldn't have used, and I take full responsibility
for that. My frustration was with the officiating, so the refs,
but my words unfairly put focus on you, the head coach,
the Brondelo, the white woman who is from Maustralia, who
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works for the Toronto Tempo, who called Angel Reese a
protected species, continued to go on and say, I also
understand that my words are carried I also understand that
my words carried an impact beyond what I intended, particularly
for black women in our league. And I'm deeply sorry
for that, I said, my competing with coaching and learning
from incredible black women. That is what I'm saying, y'all. Like,
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that's why I don't like, I don't think that all
non black people have hate in their hearts, and like,
you know, like, I don't think everybody is just always
like out to like hate other people. However, I do
think that we should never excuse things that our hate,
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like literally our hate or can cause other hate, because
regardless if you intend to do something or not, there
is an effect on so many other people if you
do make the decision to do that, and if we
make the decision to just let us slide and be like.
Speaker 2 (10:44):
Oh, that's not what she meant. And I think, I mean,
I get it.
Speaker 1 (10:47):
Shout out to the WNBA for suspending her for one
game without pay for using a term, but I think
that it should have been a bit more because you're
working in an environment full of black women, have been
for so long. How do you not know that the
issue is we heard it and we weren't supposed to,
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she says.
Speaker 2 (11:08):
The coach.
Speaker 1 (11:09):
She continues to say I regret that my words caused
harm and hurt to a community I respect so deeply.
I don't know if I believe it respect so deeply,
because if you respect it black people and black women
so deeply, you would really try to try to empathize
with the conversations that we're having about the struggles that
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we face being looked at as less than human and
being treated as if we are species, as if we
don't hurt, as if we don't have pain, as if
we don't need equal pain. Like there's all these things
that are like basic common knowledge about black people versus
the others, and especially black women, and you're with them
on a daily it's kind of scary to me, honestly, Like,
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let me just look up how long she's been a coach.
So in two thousand and five, she was named an
assistant coach of the San Antobia San Antonio Silver Stars,
and she was promoted to a head coach in February
twenty ten. SOT over a decade, clearly over a decade
you've been working along with and learning from, and that's
just minimal, right because she's she's come up in the
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sport prior to that from black women, and you don't understand, like,
I don't understand how you can say you respect us
in all these years in you don't understand why that
is not something I should be said.
Speaker 2 (12:22):
Again, I think the issue is that we heard her.
Speaker 1 (12:24):
Imagine what she says when we don't hear so she
continues to say, I have a lot of respect for
you as both a player and a person, and I
sincerely apologize to you, your teammates, and the Dream Organization
for my comment. Yeah, I'm not mad at Angelies for
shooting back at her on Twitter either, not mad at
that whatsoever.
Speaker 2 (12:43):
Completely out of line.
Speaker 1 (12:45):
I know she got to slap on a wrist from
the WNBA, but like, now you have a deeper rooted
issue because now you've got the other girls that you're
playing with and that you're working and the black women
you're working with that are looking at you like hold on,
wait what so is that how you really feel? And
she's gonna run it ain't Reaes again, you know what
I'm saying, Like this is not I feel like no
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matter how much we kick and scream it to the
top of the mountains, there's always gonna be this like
notion that like people can just do and say what
they want when it comes to us, especially black women,
Like I hate that, and I'm not the type that
like lean into, like, you know, a victim mentality or
anything like that, But I do feel like sometimes there's
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like a lesser on the total pole narrative that we're
like fighting against, even though we know that it's not
like we know that we like make shit, make stuff go,
excuse my language.
Speaker 2 (13:38):
We know that we make stuff go.
Speaker 1 (13:39):
We know that we are the economy, we know that
we are driving entrepreneurship. We know that we're driving so
many different facets and elements and genres of like life
literally birthing, like we are we're literally carrying the black
race on our backs, like we are giving birth to
the net civil rights activists, scientists, black doctors, black lawyers,
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Like we're doing so much, and then it's still people
can still like casually slip up in and make these
mistakes and have a job after. I'm only passionate because
I'm a black woman, and I every single day am
having a tote this line of like, yeah, but it's
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different for me as a black woman, And I don't
even really know how to describe the line that I'm
talking about that I'll be toting you know, I'd be
kind of tiptoe around. But other black women listening to this,
y'all gonna feel me, y'all gonna know what.
Speaker 2 (14:36):
Y'all know what I mean.
Speaker 1 (14:37):
It's literally that point of like, yeah, I hear you,
but like I'm a black woman, it's a bit different
for me, no matter how outspoken we are, you know,
no matter how much support. And I love to see
like when men, especially black men support black women are like,
you know, standing in front of the bullet for us,
you know what I'm saying. I love that because I
think it shows that, like we're protected, and I think
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that that's all that he ever want is to show
and feel that.
Speaker 2 (15:02):
But and that's why, like.
Speaker 1 (15:04):
I know, you know, people get on a shock for
some of the comicsies made about Anguries, but like he
comes gunning about her often when people are dragging her
and talking about her in ways that you know, a
lot of people feel like other sports analysts would not
be talking about her if she were not a black woman,
or you know, the positions that they pin her in
in conversations and the narratives. Yeah, so there's that that's
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uplift a bit. Speaking of black women, Wendy Williams, who
would have been celebrating eighteen years in television last week,
So July fourteen, two thousand and eight, the Wendy Williams
Show kicked off and she went for thirteen seasons. Wendy
Williams was outside celebrating her birthday. We have not seen
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Wendy and sometime, and you know, she's been a lot
more low key since the beginning of all of this,
but people are always constantly wondering how she's doing, how
the conservativeship fight is going I can't answer any questions
for y'all about how the conservativeship fighters going on because
they don't really talk to media much about it directly anymore,
ever since Wendy kind of got, you know, quoting from
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that judge in the conservativeship. But to be honest, when
they do talk to media, it's not like it like
they pick and choose, like I know she did an
article in The New Yorker recently and stuff like that,
but she was out and about.
Speaker 2 (16:21):
She was headed out for a birthday dinner.
Speaker 1 (16:24):
With her niece, Alex, and I think it was Alex's
boyfriend or husband that was with her as well too.
Speaker 2 (16:28):
Let's take a listen to Wendy, Happy birthday. We congratulations,
happy birthday.
Speaker 1 (16:33):
It's my birthday and my birthday is doing.
Speaker 2 (16:40):
Stellar as any plans for today tonight, A big body
with we have a friend. We have a friend Mike
Tucci and going to Chucci. Nice, nice sound and healthy.
Speaker 1 (16:52):
I'll tell you guys, you know, if you haven't seen
the photos, she looked really good as well too.
Speaker 2 (16:58):
Wendy looked really good.
Speaker 1 (16:59):
She looked together, she looked put together, had her makeup done,
She was smiling, she was you know, how to try
to have conversations about her cognitive like, you know, ability
to keep up with conversations and answer questions like it
was only one question that the fotoc threw at her,
but she was sharped. Hey, this is where we're going.
We got a friend there. You know, it's my birthday.
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The pictures that her niece posted, she captioned it celebrating
the Queen Wendy Williams. And I saw Wendy Willis's brother
posts you know, some photos and celebration of her birthday
as well too. So from the outside looking in, it
looked like it looks like she's doing well.
Speaker 2 (17:32):
I know.
Speaker 1 (17:33):
In that last article I did read about her from
The New Yorker, it was like in a column that
they did, she was saying, how, you know, she goes
to church every Sunday, but like she's still very unhappy
with her living circumstances because she's still in you know,
that older lockdown facility where like she can't even let
herself out, everything has to be approved and all of that.
But she's looking good and I think that that counts
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for something because we saw what it was like when
she wasn't doing as well well physically, like you could
physically literally.
Speaker 2 (18:02):
See it on her.
Speaker 1 (18:05):
So yeah, I try to look out for any Wendy
update I can, because at the end of the day,
Wendy Williams is still Wendy Williams. And you know, I
think what we watched to happen with her was pretty insane.
Was really insane.
Speaker 2 (18:20):
Man.
Speaker 1 (18:20):
It's like, Wendy Williams is literally one of the greatest
to ever do it in the talk show shoot even
in a radio space as well too. And watch her
walk away from the Wendy Williams Show without any ownership,
without any other businesses surrounded by I have so many
I would love to sit down and have a very
in depth interview with Wendy about that time period of
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her life and why, like why didn't you own need
an IP Why didn't you start businesses?
Speaker 2 (18:48):
Like why? Like was it?
Speaker 1 (18:51):
I don't know, I was. Maybe one day that'll happen.
We'll put that out there speaking into existence. Could you
guys know? We were following everything with thingship really really closely,
down to the point where, you know, for the Breakfast Club,
I actually went on assignment to the home where Wendy
Williams was living just to see it myself, and it
was very lockdown. I couldn't even get upstairs. She was
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not able to come downstairs and speak to me. We
had to talk on the phone while she looked out
of the window. It was a whole thing. So, you know,
putting it out there of that interview maybe will happen
one day once she is, you know, a bit more
freed up from her conservativeship. But we'll just have to
wait and see. This has been another episode of the
Latest with Lauren de Rosa. I tell you, guys, every
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single episode, y'all could be anywhere with any old body
talking about anything, but y'all rather be right here with me,
my Lowriders. I appreciate you, guys. I will see you
in my next episode.