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December 27, 2024 40 mins

The Black Effect Presents... R&B Money!

On this week's episode of The R&B Money Podcast, Tank and J Valentine welcome the Baddest, the Legendary Trina. From her early days in Miami to becoming a trailblazing icon in the rap game, Trina shares her incredible journey with the R&B Money crew. She discusses the importance of having a strong business acumen in the music industry and how she's been able to maintain her success for over two decades.

Trina also opens up about the women who inspired her growing up, the unexpected way she got her start in music, and the moment she realized she was destined to be a star. She shares stories about her early tours with Trick Daddy and Ludacris, and how she used those experiences to launch her solo career.

Trina drops gems about the importance of staying true to yourself, understanding the business side of music, and embracing the next generation of artists, and shows us why she is one of the most influential women in hip-hop history. From her boss mentality to her infectious personality, Trina shows why she's been a force in the game for so long. Trina is Now on The R&B Money Podcast!

 

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Speaker 1 (00:01):
R and B Money.

Speaker 2 (00:05):
We are take about Chi.

Speaker 1 (00:11):
We are the authorities.

Speaker 3 (00:15):
R and B.

Speaker 1 (00:18):
Ladies and gentlemen.

Speaker 2 (00:19):
My name is Tank and this is the R and
B Money Podcast, the authority on all things R and B,
the Miami and the You come to Miami, you better
pull over?

Speaker 1 (00:32):
Whoa why are you pulling over? Listen?

Speaker 2 (00:39):
You got to tap in with the soil, the originator.

Speaker 1 (00:43):
Yeah, we begin where it all begin. Y'all talking that ship. Now,
she's been talking that ship, give it up, been talking it.

Speaker 4 (00:56):
Hey, guys, you've been you've been doing.

Speaker 3 (00:59):
This, been doing this, being done that.

Speaker 2 (01:02):
How does that feel like watching, you know, watching this
new generation just kind of like pick up the pieces
that that that you've that you've just kind of inspired
and and just run with it in such a way
and be recognized in such a way because you were
you were a standalone you were by yourself talking like this,

(01:24):
and now it's like it's it's common.

Speaker 1 (01:28):
This is what you're supposed to do now. Yeah.

Speaker 5 (01:30):
Yeah, it's just like I just look back and I
just see all the new artists, the girls and stuff,
and I could see like the form of inspiration or
like the drive, the hunger, like the sassiness.

Speaker 3 (01:41):
I want to be the boss. I want to get
my money up my bags.

Speaker 5 (01:44):
I see all that you know, and you know every
day it's just constantly a new generation of it growing
every single day.

Speaker 1 (01:51):
It's wow, do you do you do?

Speaker 2 (01:53):
You get those calls and hit those des like you
inspired me?

Speaker 3 (02:00):
I get it all the time. I get it all
the time.

Speaker 2 (02:02):
Yeah, I get some of that. But it's like the
way they start the sendence is like unk. I'm like,
I thought you embraced No, I embraced it now, But
in the beginning it was like, oh g.

Speaker 1 (02:17):
You know what I'm saying. I was like, man, I'm
still coloring my hair.

Speaker 4 (02:20):
You know what I'm saying.

Speaker 2 (02:21):
With the rewind with the rewind the time, I'm still
trying to I'm at the poor party and they're like this, hey,
how did you get in here? Like the older section is,
first of all, thank you so much, thank you so

(02:42):
much for coming. We like we appreciate and value your
time for you are still cooking in these streets as
we are on the show later on this week together. Yes,
and I'm it's dope to be on the show with you.
I want to ask you about the beginning I want
to ask you about the the beginning of Trina and

(03:03):
you being in this Miami space and coming to terms
with the fact that I have a gift. I have
something to offer, and let me show you what that is.
When did you identify that.

Speaker 5 (03:17):
In the beginning before even you guys knew me, I
knew that, you know, I just kind of came up
like that. I came up around a lot of women
that were entrepreneurs, hard work and successful women.

Speaker 3 (03:30):
You know, my aunt owned the bank.

Speaker 1 (03:32):
Your aunt owned a bank.

Speaker 5 (03:34):
Yeah shit, yeah, my sister she owns the bank. So
she passed away. This was years ago.

Speaker 3 (03:39):
I was young.

Speaker 5 (03:40):
So I just kind of grew up in like the
surroundings of just women like always leveling up, you know, businesses,
just seeing women be really profound, like taking care of
themselves always.

Speaker 3 (04:01):
You know, I didn't see like you know, I need.

Speaker 5 (04:07):
I didn't see like that. I didn't see like the
women I grew up around. I didn't really see them
sit around and wait for anything hat. No, it was
they were the hands. They were the hands that was
handing out, you know. They was the bosses. They was
the you know, the women in the nice cars with
the nice business the nice home. This is the stuff
I saw growing up all the time, all around me.
So all my friends, this is what we aspire to be,

(04:28):
Like these women, how can we have our own money?
I want my own car, art, Like this is the
stuff that I, you know, wanted to see. So I
always that was before I even became you guys know me, Like,
I mean, I'm from Miami. This is a big place,
so everybody already knew who I was just because of
my upbringing. And then when I decided to do music,
it just made it like, you know, like ten times
even more intense.

Speaker 3 (04:48):
But I already had that vision.

Speaker 5 (04:50):
Like when I started doing music, I fell in love
with the women that were like, oh my god, this
is you make me you know happy?

Speaker 3 (04:59):
Or that song did?

Speaker 5 (05:00):
It got me through my heartbreak and I wanted to
just kill my husband and I just listened to you
and I just so much of that. And I used
to be like, you know, like wow, you know, like
my husband cheated and I gave him a chance. I'm
not giving them more chances. So I was the one
that was like, you know, wow, more power, the strength,
the hugs, the love and the energy, the attitude, the

(05:21):
you know, the determination to be able to walk and
stand on your own. And I just that was how
I set myself up. Like everything I did, I wanted
to do it. I wanted to make sure that my
affairs was in order. I had everything that I needed.
I had my own everything, and my business was organized

(05:42):
like it was dropping to start, like you know, from
the start, like I mean, it's music, it's fun, we
travel and we performing, but that's still a business. Like
I never got so caught up in the fun to
I didn't understand the business. That's why twenty plus years later,
I'm here because I understood the business from the beginning.
And I tell a lot of girls now, like you

(06:03):
know that ask me for advice and stuff.

Speaker 3 (06:05):
I tell them that, like it's all fun.

Speaker 5 (06:06):
You go out, you know, you got your wanes, you
in the club, you pop in bodies, You having a
good time, and you're supposed to have a good time.
You're young, you live in life, and we only get
one life. But you need to be really precise, ideal,
and strategic about your business, making sure that you are
setting the ground for yourself, making sure you have for yourself,

(06:28):
making sure you don't run into a brick wall, and everything.

Speaker 3 (06:32):
The door is closed and you're like, what all happened?
The whole start went away?

Speaker 5 (06:35):
No, you gotta, you gotta, you gotta understand that this
is still a business, even though for us it's still
it's a it's a craft. It's art and people adore it,
you know, and you do it for as long as
you feel until you say I don't want to do.

Speaker 3 (06:49):
It no more.

Speaker 5 (06:49):
Sure, And that's still like running a business. I work
for self. Guy is self employed. Die must get up
for self and run and handle her business. So that's
just now I kind of started.

Speaker 1 (07:01):
So as you as you talk this boss talk, I
love it. I love it, which is very exciting.

Speaker 4 (07:08):
You.

Speaker 2 (07:09):
You you you had the foresight in terms of understanding,
you know, to make sure the business was taken care of,
to be on top of your business. But I feel
like also you would unders you understood all levels of
the music business even before you even kind of embarked
on it. So choosing to be a rapper was definitely

(07:30):
a concise choice because coming from from these these these
uh these boss inspirations who owned you could could have
easily chose management or just be part of a label,
or just be like you could have chosen all those things.
What made you choose to be in front of the
microphone too?

Speaker 3 (07:48):
Because I felt like I was a star.

Speaker 5 (07:56):
This is the main thing is the main So I
just I always felt like that, you know, like I
was just always the leader of the pact. Even with
all my friends, my girls, I'm the person in charge.
I'm making sure everybody outfits look a certain way. We're
going to this spot, We're gonna sit in this section.
Everybody got that was me, organized organization. All the girls
got to be looking this way like that was my thing.

(08:18):
So I knew when I started doing music, I was
gonna like run everybody crazy because I knew exactly what
I wanted.

Speaker 1 (08:22):
A are you do?

Speaker 2 (08:24):
You go as far as like, yeah, you're not gonna
be to sit with us with that with that on,
that's not going.

Speaker 5 (08:29):
Oh yeah, no, look you know what tonight, this is
not that my we're like all black affair, you're gonna
have to change.

Speaker 3 (08:35):
No, it's it's respect.

Speaker 5 (08:36):
Like I just know you look right. I don't want
you to look crazy. Everybody knows that about me. Maybe
you sure with something else, like what's the option?

Speaker 3 (08:42):
Or you look beautiful?

Speaker 5 (08:43):
This is it? Like that's just me. Everybody was an all
black affair. Everybody's wanting black. Don't come in here with
your sob story about while you have one yellow. We're
not accepting them coming here with your organization formation.

Speaker 3 (08:55):
Yeah, we're not doing that.

Speaker 5 (08:56):
So I just kind of structure like that because I
just like to be organized and just this whole little
you know thing.

Speaker 2 (09:03):
There's a listen, there is a there's a certain sexiness
to order. You understand what I'm saying and when it
looks certain because you know, we can speak from the
God's perspective when we look at the at the section
and this and the section is curated the right way.

Speaker 1 (09:20):
We want to we want.

Speaker 2 (09:22):
To send some some flowers and some and maybe a
couple of bottles to that section and you tell them
that they doing.

Speaker 1 (09:29):
The right ship over there.

Speaker 3 (09:30):
That's a good section section right there.

Speaker 6 (09:33):
You never want to have to tell one of the homies.
You know, you gotta take one for the team. You
see the one in.

Speaker 1 (09:38):
That yellow.

Speaker 4 (09:41):
With the with the side story. You got to take
one for the team and that dog.

Speaker 1 (09:46):
Check. We need you yellow. We wanted that shoe. We're
gonna focus on all.

Speaker 6 (09:55):
So let's get to these records, right, so you're you're
curating your section and homies and y'all moving a certain way.

Speaker 3 (10:02):
And then oh my god, so now the.

Speaker 1 (10:08):
Record is that the first rap song you recorder? Are
you already?

Speaker 2 (10:12):
No?

Speaker 5 (10:12):
That was the first rap song I record? That was
That was kind of like me doing a favor for Trick.
It wasn't really like it turned into a record, But
that's not initially what it started out as started out,
as you know, before I even heard the record, Trick
was like kind of on the phone, kind of like
just talking, rapping whatever he was going to say on.

Speaker 1 (10:31):
Can I go back to you? And Trick getting on
the phone. How do y'all meet?

Speaker 2 (10:34):
Is this?

Speaker 5 (10:34):
I met Trick when I was in school, like way younger.
We was in school, but Trick ended up going to jail,
so I've never seen him in more until he was
out of jail.

Speaker 3 (10:43):
He was growing.

Speaker 5 (10:44):
But this was way years later, and I think like
six seven years after. And then he always will say
he wanted the music. He wanted to rap so bad,
and like all of our girls, he will always be
rapping and stuff. We'd be like, okay, already shop a deal.
We're not a record label like already, and so once
he got out of jail, he really like all the

(11:05):
raps that he was rapping up in jail or whatever.

Speaker 3 (11:07):
He brought it a lot.

Speaker 5 (11:08):
And then he went directly to Luke to go do
music and he did a song. He did his whole
thing over there, and then after that he got signed
to stip in Slode Records, and then it was like, okay,
you elevate.

Speaker 3 (11:18):
You moved from one thing to the next.

Speaker 5 (11:19):
And then he had put out an album on slip
and Slide, So we just already knewm so we always
would support him, go to the videos, you know, me
and my girls just hang out and just go show
him love. And because he really got out of jail
and did like I said, I wanted the music. And
then so now it's the second album time. And then
he just called me one day. It was me and
my friends in the car. We was on our way

(11:41):
I think to the flea market or something like that,
and he was just like, hey, I want you guys
to come out of the studio and he was like, no,
it's gonna be a whole bunch of people over there, Like no,
what for He was like, no, no, no, it's just
gonna be me and he was calling out the names
and we was like, because I'm the person that I
always say, who are I gonna be over there?

Speaker 3 (11:54):
That's me.

Speaker 5 (11:55):
I'm always who's all over So he was kind of
staying over there.

Speaker 3 (12:00):
So it wasn't a lot.

Speaker 5 (12:01):
So we was like, what do you want, Trick, and
then he was just like I want you. I need
you trained to come, like talk on this song. Needs
you just come get on this song. I was like,
get on the song and do what and he was like,
I'm gonna let you hear it and he just started
saying it on the phone and I was like, what
are you singing?

Speaker 3 (12:17):
You don't know? Naw like what? He was like naw man?

Speaker 5 (12:19):
And I was like now I meaning like nobody. Now,
nobody's better than you, like now, like nothing is better.
And then he was like yeah and I was like
all right, we'll see. So we came over and when
I got to the studio, he played the record and
I was like, what in the hell is happening here?

Speaker 3 (12:38):
It was no, it wasn't. It was just like whoa
Like he was just talking.

Speaker 5 (12:43):
You know, you guys heard the record he was, and
so mind you it was just him on the hook
and just saying it and then he was like verbally
singing his verse. It wasn't done yet though, it was
just kind of so I was like, WHOA, what the
hell am I gonna be doing on the record, And
then he was like, no, I just need you to
go in there, take your friends, had my girlfriends with me,
my godsister and some of my homegirls and just all

(13:03):
y'all going to booth and just just I need you
to just like talk the talk, like I need you
to just like it's like guy versus girls. So if
a guy is just kind of coming at you aggressive
and you know whatever, I need you to just go
like ten times and say that you're gonna hear what
I'm gonna say, and you just go afterday and so
I'm in there, I'm saying all kinds of stuff in
my friends like no, that's not nasty enough, say this,
and we taking stuff away.

Speaker 3 (13:24):
We laughed. It was just a whole production this day
in the studio.

Speaker 5 (13:27):
And so when it was finally done.

Speaker 3 (13:31):
He had left trick Love study, so it's just us.

Speaker 5 (13:33):
So I saw me and my girls an engineer and
so when it was done, we called him and told
me it was finished, and he came back and heard it,
and then he called the label owner from the Slipping
Slide Records and then he heard it and he was like,
that is not Trina and then we was like, yes,
it is, and then the rest is history. I got
to deal with Atlantic Records from.

Speaker 1 (13:49):
The song and so you weren't even trying me.

Speaker 5 (13:53):
No, they were trying to sign me for a couple
of months, like three four months to the label.

Speaker 3 (13:56):
I was like, no, I'm just doing a favor. I
don't know.

Speaker 5 (13:58):
I was like no show no at first, Yeah, I
was like no. I was like I'm just doing I
just went to talk and do a favor, like you know,
just talk my Todd, like you know, you hear songs
and you a girl somebody in the background. Theyre arguing
she's not actually an artist, she's just somebody in the
background and somebody you know, your friend and she's just
and then they were like no, and the Atlantic Records
is like who is that?

Speaker 3 (14:17):
And it was like I kept saying no. They were
harassing me days and days and days. Yeah, So I
went to perform.

Speaker 5 (14:23):
It was Trick's birthday party right after, and they was
trying to release the record, and they come to his
birthday party.

Speaker 3 (14:30):
I was like, okay, cool, I'll come. So I go
to the birthday party.

Speaker 5 (14:33):
I know he's going to perform and do his thing,
but I'm just here in full support, me and my friends.
And as we're there, they played the way he was
going to perform and they stopped playing his records. He
stopped playing some songs, and then I remember the record
came on and they told me, well, we want you
to come out on the record. I was like, absolutely not,
Like it's not gonna happen. It's just not It's not
gonna happen. And so I remember it was like it

(14:54):
was a club. It wasn't a really big club. The
stage was not so big. So we were like behind
the stage in this VP or that's where it's little.
The party was at before you get out to the
main part. And he came on the stage and he
stopped phone. So I'm in the backstanding by the curtain.
You know, we stand up. Me and my girls were
looking We just partying out at a good time, and so
they kept saying you have to come out. I kept
saying I'm not coming out. And when the song came

(15:17):
on him and like one of my other friend guys,
they came. They pushed the curtain up and they was
like to show the crowd. It was me like yeah,
like this is the girl who's saying it. And as
soon as they did that, they were like trying to
grab me to come to the stage and the girls
like right when I was talking the little like hold up,
hold up over that little part. I was standing right

(15:37):
there and the girls in the crowd like just said
every word to the song I'm talking about.

Speaker 3 (15:44):
I didn't open my mouth and say nothing. I was just.

Speaker 5 (15:46):
Standing there looking like what And it was That's how
it just started. That's exactly how it happened.

Speaker 1 (15:54):
Was that the bug was that the thing that.

Speaker 3 (15:57):
Said no, it was one more after that was the
one thing. So then after that, Naddy invited me. This
was a performance.

Speaker 5 (16:09):
This was like the first performance of Trick's new album.
It's at the College Times in Tallahassee. Fam you so
we're gonna go to Tallahassee. So we all excited like okay,
we'll go, let's go. And that was the bug that
was the one because it was like this is a
big venue, it's a big stage, and I mean the
song it's one divert like one the bar. So by

(16:33):
the time Trick he had like he didn't really do
a lot of songs from like the previous project. He
had did a couple songs from that and maybe it's
like a thirty minute sat. So this song now, particularly
was the last song that he do and when it
came on, you could just see the like the crowd
just inflaming. Everybody's going nuts, and now it's time for

(16:53):
me to come out. And then you just hear the girls,
everybody just screaming. I can hear them in the back.

Speaker 3 (16:58):
I'm looking peeking.

Speaker 5 (17:00):
And so by the time I came back at this time,
I had came with like my friends, some dancers, everybody,
a whole full production. And then we came out and
I did the song, and I don't know, I was like,
what it's going on?

Speaker 3 (17:12):
Like what did I create? I'm talking.

Speaker 5 (17:14):
I mean, I literally didn't have to say nothing. They
said the whole song like I couldn't even I was
like I was starstruck, like looking at them like what
And then that's that was it?

Speaker 4 (17:27):
And you still don't have a deal yet, are you
at this point?

Speaker 1 (17:29):
Now you have the deal? Have you given in?

Speaker 5 (17:32):
And actually don't think I had the deal at the
Tallahasseee thing. I think right after Tallahassee, I did the deal.

Speaker 3 (17:40):
I did the deal. So were you able to since yeah,

(18:03):
right after that.

Speaker 6 (18:04):
So now you have this hit record that's out, you
kind of playing cat and mouse with the label. Are
you able to create a bidding war or do you
say I'm still going this way though?

Speaker 3 (18:15):
Well, it wasn't obitting where it was just Atlantic.

Speaker 5 (18:17):
They just came through with that pressure like this is
what they want to do. This is the deal they
going to merge with slipping slide, this is the deal
coming through this trick and train of record X y
Z And it was a great deal and we just
I did it. And then immediately well because this was
nineteen this was a ninety eight. Then a the record
came out, and then we went on like all these

(18:38):
different tours like right after for the whole straight year.
But in the midst of that whole year of touring
off this record, that's when I was creating my album.
So it came out in two thousand, right directly right
after the record, So went from that to that, and
it just started because.

Speaker 2 (18:54):
It's like you were just having a good time. Yeah,
you're just having fun and stumbled on.

Speaker 6 (19:02):
And you were able to in a sense practice with
a hit record.

Speaker 1 (19:08):
Yeah, because no nobody gets to do that.

Speaker 4 (19:09):
Usually people go.

Speaker 6 (19:10):
Out there on nobody know, they don't know your pa.

Speaker 5 (19:12):
And then I had, in the midst of that another
thing because right when that we did, now, I had
did What's Your Fantasy remix with Ludacris, so that record
was so I had two records, and so I would
go on the road with Ludacris, going road with Tricks
back and for It back and for It back, and yeah, kind.

Speaker 3 (19:30):
Of happened real all.

Speaker 5 (19:31):
This is before I put out my first single, my album,
So I had both of those records.

Speaker 6 (19:36):
Like out the gate, Are you doing any shows by yourself?
Are you just like, okay, I'm gonna just do their
shows with you.

Speaker 3 (19:40):
No, I just did the shows with them.

Speaker 5 (19:42):
I didn't do no shows by myself until my album
came out, because then it was all me, okay, yeah,
so you waited, yeah, because I was, and why I
was doing it. I had just got the deal signed
and then Atlantic was like requesting I put the album
out like right away, like you know yes, and so
I did it.

Speaker 3 (20:02):
Within the year I was on the word working with
that deal.

Speaker 6 (20:05):
We like to ask you get your check, get your check,
you buy it.

Speaker 5 (20:10):
I didn't buy anything, actually nothing, no, I actually, this
is just funny.

Speaker 3 (20:17):
I didn't buy nothing. I gave a check to my mom. Actually, and.

Speaker 5 (20:22):
My mom well, I had introduced my mom into like
buying properties, buying stuff, flipping it, and you know, buying
selling whatever. And so when I first got the check
or whatever, it was like I was already working and
I was good. I was making money, so I didn't
really need the check. So I just gave it to her,
and here I go. My album came out. The first
year we worked on the album, I'm doing videos, I'm

(20:44):
traveling to them, whatever. The second year came, I'm still
in the world. I'm working, but I'm getting creating my
second album at the same time. And by time the
second album had dropped and came out. I believe it
was like when the album came out, I want to say,
like right after, like I had like an album release
party or something or whatever, and then my mom gave
me the check back, but it was double the money

(21:05):
she just took. She just doubled it like whatever she
was slipping out so I had check, So I didn't
I just really had it. I didn't have a Yeah,
I didn't have a used to like getting nothing because
I kind of had everything. Like I had three cars,
I had a house. I had everything I wanted, Like
I was just young, traveling the world doing I want
to do.

Speaker 3 (21:21):
I didn't you know what I mean. I didn't really need.

Speaker 5 (21:23):
Nothing like that except but to just live, like wake
up and get the album done.

Speaker 6 (21:28):
I'm glad you didn't buy rims like Tank.

Speaker 1 (21:38):
I had first of all in l A, you know
what I'm saying. And in l A.

Speaker 2 (21:46):
The if you got a rim she was in Miami.
If you got to the culture was different.

Speaker 4 (21:53):
They got.

Speaker 3 (21:58):
All that down here. That's a big thing for us.

Speaker 2 (21:59):
But as a boy, I had to show up with
that ship on my car and when they gave me
my first check. No, I didn't have nowhere to live,
absolutely not. So you didn't double yours, not in double mind.
But I doubled up on them rims. I promise you
that I put them low and hard ld ones on

(22:19):
that GS three hundred.

Speaker 1 (22:21):
Black on black, then pot them edition and they saw me.

Speaker 4 (22:25):
Go ahead, look at the cameras.

Speaker 1 (22:27):
I wasted mind.

Speaker 2 (22:28):
Yes, kids, please don't buy rims because you know you
go because they come with rim. You go through a
tire a month, and and don't go to all the
strip clubs. Pick one, just just pick one. You try
to be an informative pie. But I had fun. Shout

(22:50):
out to the next gold club, Shout out to Legs,
shout out.

Speaker 1 (22:55):
To Michelle, Triple X and Trish. I'm just shout out
to Peanuts.

Speaker 4 (23:00):
Get out of there, man.

Speaker 1 (23:01):
Okay, okay, anyway, So so.

Speaker 2 (23:03):
Give me, give me your give me just your disposition
and how you're feeling going from okay, yes, I'm just
jumping on stage with Trick, I'm just jumping on stage
with Luda. Now it's now it's just your name on
the marqut, it's just you. How are you feeling at
this point because you all, from what you say that
you've already felt bossy, right, yeah, but now this has

(23:25):
to take your boss level to.

Speaker 3 (23:29):
I was out of control. I was out of control.

Speaker 5 (23:33):
Now I just felt I really it just really like
separated me, you know, from what I was already doing
to what I just already wanted to do myself like
I'm in charge, this is the ticket.

Speaker 3 (23:42):
It's about me.

Speaker 5 (23:43):
So everything that's I'm bringing to this show and to
this platform, I'm doing it on my own. Like I'm
calling the shots. I want the sound to sound like this,
I want the stages like this. I won't dances. I
want you know, like Trick ain't really have dance and stuff.
He was just like he's just a good damn rap.
I wanted a production, so I want to turn it different,
And yeah it was different.

Speaker 6 (24:01):
Did you hire from within, like as far as from
Miami or did you like do the whole who's the
biggest choreographer or you know what?

Speaker 5 (24:09):
I did it kind of here first because we have
a lot of like we had a lot of great dancers,
a lot of grants.

Speaker 3 (24:14):
I mean great dancers.

Speaker 5 (24:15):
You know, they travel, they dance here, they dance Atlanta,
they dance California, like all the you know, artists, videos
and tours and stuff. So I already came in with that,
Like Miami is a big known place for dance scenes
and dancing, so that was easy to find. That was
easy to get that. So yeah, I kind of constructed
that desk like right here, that's dope.

Speaker 1 (24:35):
I love that. And your first solo tour is with who.

Speaker 3 (24:40):
Oh Myself. It was myself, but.

Speaker 6 (24:43):
You didn't have to really, so you didn't have to
do the promo run though.

Speaker 1 (24:49):
I mean as far as.

Speaker 6 (24:50):
Like, hey, but you did that with which with tricking
with Lulak. I'm saying, once your project came, you were
already getting paid to do shows.

Speaker 5 (24:57):
Yeah, but I still did promo though. I just still
did a lot of yeah, no, no, no you promo. Definitely, I
definitely did promo. I definitely did those radio dates. I
definitely did those, you know, go to the radio station, show,
loved every whatever they needed. I did that also because
then again when it was my album and then you know,
I did my single and then I had my single
with Kelly Rowland, and so it was definitely mandatory for promo.

(25:20):
It's definitely like a marketing strategy behind it. And I
definitely had to steal take like it was dates that
I would that I would be booked. It was for
me to like perform, but I would take radio dates
in with that also. I had to, and I mean
I didn't care because I was Sometimes I would do
two shows in a day.

Speaker 1 (25:38):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (25:38):
Sometimes, so I'll do a show, two shows in one city,
or two shows and one citay and another show after
party somewhere else, or a show here and a show
somewhere else, fly here or drive here. So it was
kind of like every day, you know. So I added
promo into that with radio like kind of on the run.
I didn't have a problem with that though.

Speaker 2 (25:54):
I think, like we were talking about, you know, just
younger artists and artists who who've kind of in this
new generation have more subscribed to online promo versus in
person promo.

Speaker 1 (26:07):
Like there's a difference in touching the people.

Speaker 2 (26:10):
In those artists who've actually gone to all those B
and C markets and left their mark there. Because I
can tell I know for a fact, you can go anywhere.

Speaker 3 (26:21):
Anywhere down South anywhere and.

Speaker 2 (26:23):
Get a full you can go anywhere and get a bag.
And that is a result of those promo runs. Man,
just going to touch the people doing those luncheons, showing
up I have shown.

Speaker 1 (26:35):
Up to to to what they what they're doing their
hair to the hair salon did this.

Speaker 2 (26:43):
We had a we had a in Chattanooga. No what't
not you Charleston, South Carolina. Fill up your tank with
tank and and I.

Speaker 1 (26:52):
Was pumping the gas.

Speaker 2 (26:53):
This is fixed in the morning, but it's a line
as hours I can see, and I am pumping gas.
I'm shaking hands and there's no babies this early morning,
but I'm shaking hands and giving hugs at the gas station.
And I think, you know, for us coming up in

(27:14):
those times, I think that's been a saving grace and
the difference in us being able to stand the test
of time because we're connected to people, We're not just
connected online. But then you add the fact that you
have legendary music and you have a legendary persona, which
I think these new young female artists are are snatching

(27:37):
pieces of and trying to you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 6 (27:41):
No, I love the way that you've that you've embraced
all the newer artists who that have come along, you
know what I mean, because everybody isn't always receptive of
you know what's coming. But I feel like it's done
nothing but continue to push you higher up because you
just move in such grace. Yeah, it's really cool to

(28:02):
watch and really cool to see and see, you know,
all the artists that have come after you celebrate you.
I'm watching it like in real time, it's as soon
as they start talking to like and Trina, Yeah yeah,
And that's just it's really really cool, really cool to see.
But the things that you've done early on too with

(28:23):
you and Trick Daddy had the most amazing chemistry, like
you said, with the back and forth with the records,
like shut up and take it to the house. Like
y'all got records that they still play right now, right
now for sure, but even just get the get the
get the arena going records. How did it feel to
have a record like that, like a take it to

(28:45):
the house when you any football game, you go to
basketball game, anything sporting event, because that's not like okay,
yeah we at the club and it's gonna get his burned.

Speaker 4 (28:55):
This is little kids in there.

Speaker 2 (28:56):
Ye.

Speaker 3 (28:58):
Everybody's having a good time. That's a great feeling.

Speaker 5 (29:00):
You know, Like we got a chance to perform that
record at the halftime for the Dolphins game.

Speaker 3 (29:06):
Right doing that before the Super Bowl and.

Speaker 5 (29:08):
You know, like you said, it's like, you know, it's
just kids, everybody. It was just one of those records
that everybody's having a good time.

Speaker 3 (29:17):
They just listen to the beat.

Speaker 5 (29:18):
They just listening to the whole harmony and us just
talking and you know, and it's just a fun record.

Speaker 3 (29:23):
I think that's like a universal record.

Speaker 5 (29:24):
It's the record you can put on the party, a barbecue,
you know, a game, a kickback, whatever you want to
put it on. And it's just one of those records
that has still been standing all these years.

Speaker 6 (29:36):
Hey you got you got so many hits though, looking
at the club to thank you.

Speaker 1 (29:43):
And it's one of those.

Speaker 6 (29:44):
Things you kind of like if you pull up on
a girl she's playing training, you don't really be like, Okay,
she is she on one of the talk ship records?

Speaker 4 (29:55):
What did do today?

Speaker 1 (30:15):
You know what I mean? You figure out how to go.
We don't make a vote. We're gonna make your super
R and B artists.

Speaker 2 (30:23):
And you got to put this artist together with artists
dead or alive with these qualities. Who you're going to
get the vocal from, the performance style from, the styling
from and the passion of the artist, the heart of
the artists. Who out of all the artists you love
and know, are you going to get the vocal from

(30:44):
to make your super artist one vocal?

Speaker 1 (30:48):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (30:49):
Yeah, top tier the voice Okay, Who you're going to
get the performance style Okay, Well then if you know
you know, you know I went to Okay, the styling
we put your.

Speaker 3 (31:07):
Man, I'm gonna go with she gonna a clean, nice
clean one.

Speaker 1 (31:15):
Mm hmm, easy easy.

Speaker 2 (31:18):
My grandmama used to make me watch Patla Bell. You
see how the hair used to be out doing the
thing like I had.

Speaker 1 (31:27):
And the passion of the artists, the heart of the artists.

Speaker 5 (31:31):
Passion, passionate heart, passion. Oh, I'm gonna go Fantasia.

Speaker 3 (31:40):
She's gonna kick off the shoes and get sweat. Yeah,
she's gonna get into it.

Speaker 1 (31:45):
Five minutes and she's.

Speaker 3 (31:46):
Gonna get right into it. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (31:48):
I cried in Fantasia one American idol.

Speaker 5 (31:52):
Yes, like she deserved that.

Speaker 1 (31:56):
Yes, like she got she did something to my soul.

Speaker 3 (32:01):
She deserved it.

Speaker 1 (32:02):
That just doesn't happen. I crab when he was on tour,
it was on tour together. Now just cried, all right,
here we go. Yeah. Let you notice I have theme songs,
full lot of this ship. Okay, I ain't saying no
name today. I ain't saying no names. I ain't saying
no names. I ain't saying no names. Where he was,

(32:23):
who is with what you did? Don't say she I
ain't saying no names.

Speaker 4 (32:37):
Yeah, so we're here.

Speaker 3 (32:39):
Now we're here, Now you're here.

Speaker 6 (32:40):
Special segment special of the show. It's called I Ain't
Saying no Names. Tell us a story funny or fucked up?
Are funny and fucked up? The only rule to the
game is you can't say no names.

Speaker 3 (32:53):
Okay.

Speaker 5 (32:56):
We are in Los Angeles, California. It is my birthday weekend,
and we are about to turn up. I am with
the hottest chicks in the industry. Legend Superstar one is
so big, it's.

Speaker 3 (33:12):
Just iconic.

Speaker 5 (33:13):
Okay, Okay, I decide to go out with my friends.
I'm calling everybody up. They not answering everybody. I'm thinking, like,
you know, I'm they you know, nobody's reaching back out
to me. We all up here. I go shopping with
my friends. Me and my friend go shopping. We go
a couple places. We go to the store, we go

(33:34):
Rodale Drive, We go to Mail Roads. Were your fool?
We walking around with shopping. We leave, We come back
to the hotel. All my stuff is all over the
bed and stuff. I'm sitting in there. A couple celebrities
is in here, my friends and we're just here and
all of a sudden, you know, we're just getting ready

(33:55):
to my birthday, so everybody's getting ready to have a
good time. You got to get dressed to you know whatever,
And all of a sudden, there's like a knock on
the door of the hotel.

Speaker 3 (34:03):
And I'm like, what the hell is that?

Speaker 5 (34:04):
And some of my friends are you know, they drink
and they just vibing on the balcony, have a good time.
So I'm like, hey, somebody's the door. Somebody's door and
they go to the door like hey, it's like security.
I'm like, what the hell, what's going on? Like, you know,
So I say, we'll open the door.

Speaker 3 (34:19):
I'm in the room.

Speaker 5 (34:20):
I'm hiding in a room or whatever. And they come
to the door. It's like two like police guys and
like another guy looks like the hotel owner of security
or whatever, and they go they're asking for my name,
and so my friend is like, yeah, she's here, what's
the problem. And so I come out the room. Beck
I come to the door. They're like all standing right here.

(34:41):
I go to the door and they're like, hey, are
you such and such or whatever, and I'm like yeah,
that's me. And they're like they have this paper. It
has a picture of my driver's license.

Speaker 3 (34:50):
And I'm like, the fuck that's going on. So we
look and I'm like, yeah, this is what happened. He
was like, were you with someone today shopping? Today? Out shopping?
I was like, yeah, I was shopping. He was like,
where you got shoplifting?

Speaker 2 (35:01):
What?

Speaker 1 (35:03):
I was like?

Speaker 5 (35:04):
Shoplifting? I was like, so I got very Miami shoplifting
me shopping?

Speaker 3 (35:08):
Do you know why I am? I just went crazy
like no, no, no, I got all this stuff and
how all this side or whatever? Mind you.

Speaker 5 (35:13):
My friends are here, they're celebrity, they're all sitting here.
So I'm just first of all, I'm embarrassed. I'm scared
the police is here shoplifting. So I'm looking at my
friend like there's like and she was with you and
I was like yeah, and the guy goes, we have
you on camera for stealing something out of a store.

Speaker 3 (35:28):
So I'm here.

Speaker 5 (35:28):
The guy already and came to the door and he
go I looked at her and I go, are you stealing?

Speaker 3 (35:34):
And she said and I.

Speaker 5 (35:37):
Bustop crying, and they were like you know what, you
two you guys come with us, and they grabbed us
lf to the door, put our hands behind my back
or whatever. And at that time, as soon as my
hand went behind my back, I just heard something go
boom and it was a music box pop on and
the guys with the police things, I take it out.

Speaker 3 (35:53):
They clothed this y.

Speaker 5 (35:55):
So my other celebrity trains I at the door and
the go there in the bat They on the floor
in the hallway crying and laughing, screaming, laughing, And when
they come in, I was so mad. I couldn't even
I forgot. I didn't even realize them like starting to
do the strip teasing. I was so mad, I couldn't
get unmad. It was like happy Birthday. And then everybody
just came and everybody's talking.

Speaker 3 (36:14):
I was so mad. I was like stealing roll Dale drive.
What what mes?

Speaker 2 (36:18):
What?

Speaker 3 (36:18):
How do you get my ID? My friend took a
picture of my ID zoomed it in. It was a
big plot.

Speaker 5 (36:22):
But my friend, my celebrity friends. Her security was the
guys that came to door as security. I never saw
her security before, so I'm thinking these big guys, these
are like, yeah, he's talking about It was so not.

Speaker 3 (36:33):
Funny, but it was so funny.

Speaker 5 (36:34):
After I was pissed off, but I had a good
time after. But boy, this group here, it was a
it was like one of the best birthdays ever. Yeah,
I'm just waiting on Ashton cut you to pop up,
like being paid, Like what's happening?

Speaker 1 (36:47):
Like what person Yellow really probably sent you, Like you
didn't have to do that?

Speaker 3 (36:53):
Oh my god.

Speaker 4 (36:54):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (36:54):
I was looking at her like what stealing, like it's
my birthday weekend, like what and she went only she
was like just the shirt, just a shirt.

Speaker 3 (37:05):
Everybody in the room was just trying not to laugh
so hard.

Speaker 5 (37:08):
During the whole time. I was at the door like terrified,
my hands in my back and like what and my
eyes were beg I was like crying and everything. And
I was just so embarrassed. And I mean when I
seen them people by that door, and when I seen
them once the guys came in, I see my friends
on the floor. I'm talking on the hallway of the
hotel flow laughing.

Speaker 3 (37:24):
Oh. I was too pissed off with them. But it
was a good day.

Speaker 1 (37:26):
You didn't get to enjoy the I.

Speaker 3 (37:28):
Didn't even came out to strip tease. I was just over.
I was too mad to enjoy.

Speaker 5 (37:32):
I was just like I couldn't even have fun right
then because I was my heart was beating, like shoplifted, arrested, la,
wait what we have to have a miscommunication? And then yeah,
that's what happened. So that was like the little trick
that happened to you, shop is stealing?

Speaker 3 (37:46):
What appen?

Speaker 5 (37:46):
All my receives my purse, my credit card, all my
backs like it is my birthday, Like yeah, but that
was that was That was one of the things that
got me.

Speaker 6 (37:53):
That a great story. That is a great great shout
out to the friends. Shout for y'all pushing. They actually
stole something too turned into a fight, Like.

Speaker 2 (38:07):
I know how Trina, listen, we I mean your your
essence is legendary as you continue to see these young
ladies with more confidence, more business acumen and in owning
who they are as women. You you are, You're You're

(38:29):
part of creating that legacy for us. So we appreciate you.
We we we we can't wait till I'm gonna put
a date on it. We can't wait till June. You know,
we can't wait till May.

Speaker 1 (38:42):
I'm just throwing.

Speaker 2 (38:43):
I'm just throwing months out there, you know what I'm
saying I'm not trying to poind, no pressure, you know
what I'm saying, Just I'm just praying.

Speaker 4 (38:47):
And maybe sometime in May June, you know what I'm saying,
new training. I'm just.

Speaker 1 (38:53):
I'm just putting that in an atmosphere, going on tour
and you want to pop up, you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 2 (38:57):
You know, anytime, anytime, and if you need us for anything, man,
this is this is a home for you. Whatever you
need us to say, do, promote, show up to whatever
it is we are.

Speaker 1 (39:08):
We are there.

Speaker 3 (39:09):
Thank you.

Speaker 1 (39:10):
We're absolutely the police.

Speaker 2 (39:14):
Not that.

Speaker 1 (39:17):
Take a shut off that Pladies and gentlemen.

Speaker 2 (39:21):
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