July 1, 2026 • 21 mins
Loren LoRosa is fresh off the Black Effect Podcast Festival in Atlanta—and she’s giving you the full behind-the-scenes experience. From viral moments with your favorite podcasters and celebs to the real-life love versus online narratives (yes, we’re talking Clarissa & Papoose), this episode captures the culture in motion.
Plus, Loren breaks down the Michael Jackson biopic that’s dominating globally—why it feels like a warm hug, what the critics got wrong, and the major pieces of MJ’s story she wishes we saw on screen. Is a sequel necessary? Absolutely.
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Some of the toys.
Speaker 2 (00:02):
I'm a homegrow that knows a little bit about everything
and everybody.
Speaker 1 (00:06):
You know, if you don't lie about that, right, you
can't even Hey, y'all, what's up.
Speaker 2 (00:11):
It's Laura l Rosa and this is another episode of
the Latest with Laura La Rosa. This is your deadly
dealing all things pop culture, entertainment, news and all of
the conversations that shake the room. Baby, oh my god, guys,
let's check in behind the scenes of the grind. So
(00:34):
if you cannot tell you right now, I am fighting
for my life to even get through this podcast episode.
We had such a great time in Atlanta, like I,
oh my god, this was my second year at the
Black Effect Podcast Festival that Charlemagne throws for Black Effects
(00:54):
the podcast network, which is how you guys are even
able to hear me right now. And shout out to
Dolly Bishop who's in the other network, who you know,
she is like superwoman of that whole production of the event.
This past weekend, it went down in Atlanta at Poeman
yards Man. There were so many people that popped out,
(01:15):
like little Duval uh Celo and Kate Michelle sat down
with drink TIMPs so Noriega in DJFN, Kresha Young Miami
sat down with Crystal Renee Hayslett keep his Positive Sweetie.
Also of this, Zatina Papus and Clarissa came. Clarissa wasn't
(01:35):
even like a part of the live podcast, but she
did end up on stage because Envy and Charlemagne brought
out like just some of the celebrities who were there.
So Little Duval performed because he recently celebrated the fact
that Living My Best Life went platinum his song I'm
Living my Best Life, and I thought that that was dope,
(01:58):
but to see the crowd react to him in real time.
I've never been to any of his comedy shows or like,
you know, I know he does Little Duvalde in person.
Speaker 1 (02:07):
I've only seen things online.
Speaker 2 (02:08):
Right, Oh my god, people went crazy when he came out.
(02:31):
The people love I thought it was just my mom
that loved litt Duvald down but the people love him, damn.
Speaker 1 (02:38):
But yeah.
Speaker 2 (02:39):
So Clarissa also popped out with pet Poofs and I
saw that going viral online or whatever, And I feel
like every time Clorisa goes viral now ever since she
began dating pet Poofs, it's always for you know, people
having a conversation about what they don't like about her
when it comes to her look or her relationship or whatever.
And what happens in real time, like in real life
(03:03):
with Clarissa is a lot different than what happens online.
Speaker 1 (03:07):
So she came to the festival, she was backstage.
Speaker 2 (03:10):
Clarisa has always been one of the nicest people to
me that I've you know, like celebrity wise, that I've met.
You know, when I first got back on the Breakfast
Club and things were kind of going a little crazy
and everything was happening, Clarissa had actually reached out to
me then and just you know, sent me some like
positive words and you know, like you know, not to
(03:32):
live in a noise and oh my god, like yes,
saying says same because I watched people react to her
in real time when she pulled up at the festival,
where she went and walked through the black marketplace of
the black vendors that were set up, and fans were
going crazy, and not only for her, they were going crazy.
(03:53):
I mean, the whole day was felling so much love
and people were really locked in. But like fans were
really excited to see her and honestly, to see Patpoofs
with her like they and I think it's because you
see it online so much so to be a you know,
a spectator of the sport, no pun intendent because we're
talking about the female quote here.
Speaker 1 (04:13):
And then to see you know, her in real.
Speaker 2 (04:15):
Life with Patpoofs as they you know, walk throughout the
event like they could barely get through the crowded people.
Speaker 1 (04:23):
That's how much love they were getting at the event, honestly.
But she came out on stage.
Speaker 2 (04:27):
You have Cheryl Underwood on stage as well, DJ MV
and Charlamagne on stage, and they're just having a conversation
real quick, real real quick, just bringing out a bunch
of the the you know, the people that are intendants.
And let's say, listen to Cheryl Underwood's conversation with Courses.
I'm like you spatch West and you chapling me passing
by y'all, thank you very much.
Speaker 1 (04:49):
Are you saying no no on pat poos?
Speaker 3 (04:51):
Okay, hold no no wait wait but y'all stop talking
papoos on playing right?
Speaker 2 (05:03):
Wait a minute, respect makes you ask to stay. I
don't know how I missed that moment, like in real time,
I don't know what they had me backstage prepping for,
but I am pissed that I missed that in real time.
Speaker 1 (05:16):
But men, Yeah, it was just such a great time.
Speaker 2 (05:18):
Ce Lo k Michelle took to Nourri and Ori E
and DJ Fne Drink Champs and their conversation range from
a lot of different things. To be honest, I wish
that they had more time, and I wish that they
had done one interview with one person versus two people
within forty minutes. Like I feel like they didn't really
(05:40):
get a chance to dive as deep as they normally
do on the show, which I understand. You know, when
you watch a live podcast, you're not like you're not
gonna get everything that you would normally get when.
Speaker 1 (05:48):
You watch them because it's live. Timing is different, like
you know.
Speaker 2 (05:51):
But I do wish they did one person versus the two,
even though both of those people are great interviews for
Drink Champs. But yeah, So they had a conversation and
they were talking to ce Lo about whether Landa is
running hip hop right now and the way he hesitated,
I'm like, yo, he want to say no so bad,
(06:11):
but like as like og Atlanta, he can't let's take
of the same.
Speaker 1 (06:15):
I think no, I think.
Speaker 3 (06:20):
It's like a having an intermission right then, I think
everybody in the concession instead, you.
Speaker 2 (06:30):
Know.
Speaker 3 (06:31):
But you know, the vibe, man, is just it's supposed
to be transcending, transferable. Touch the next man, touch the
next person, the next region, the next wave, style, trend,
et cetera. You know what I mean, like inspire it.
You know what I mean, Like a lot of the times, Man,
the industry is like a roller coaster ride. Let's say
(06:52):
six flames. You're gonna ride the scream of Shade. You're
gonna wait your line. You're gonna be anticipating, you know,
you know, on you're gonna be scared. You're gonna be
thrill about a minute and a half straight up for
however long it is, right, Just like damn, I'm waiting
forever for some shit that just Now's a minute. There's
some seconds, right or it seems. And you leave out,
(07:14):
you go back around, and the line is just as long,
if not longer. And if you want to ride that
right and again, if you want to ride that ride again.
Speaker 1 (07:21):
You got to get back in line. That's shit.
Speaker 3 (07:23):
And I think life is a lot like that. But
the industry is especially like that, so let it be.
Speaker 4 (07:28):
You know what I'm saying, No, no, no, they always
look over Memphis. I feel like Memphis is having the
time in hiptop right now, and we do have three
six Mafia, you know, and I feel like a lot
of the sound of that type of hip hop it was,
you know, took for them, they really didn't get. I
feel like all the acknowledgement three six my Fia deserves
(07:48):
when it comes to hip hop and being in the South,
and right now, I feel like the hip hop artist
from Memphis right now, you got push and you still
got off, you got Kendy Money, You've got you got finesse.
You know, you have some really talented lyricists right now
(08:12):
that everyone is listening to and they have that old
school Memphis.
Speaker 2 (08:15):
Sound and then they throw you know, they throw it
to Kay Michelle because Key Michelle jumps in and she's
having a conversation about the fact that Memphis is where's
at right now musically in the moment that they're having.
But one of the people that she bigs up is
kender Man, who is a female rapper who I've been like,
I love kend the Man Ken the Man pops her
(08:36):
s Hi t Okay. Kender Man is a you know,
she's a young female rapper.
Speaker 1 (08:42):
I feel like a lot. I thought the.
Speaker 2 (08:44):
Massive new KNDO Man, but Nori and DJ Fin didn't
know who she was.
Speaker 1 (08:48):
But Kem Michelle showed a lot of love.
Speaker 2 (08:50):
Let's say a listen Kingdom Man and you're going through
something right now, Ladies, you can put on Kenderman from
top to bottom.
Speaker 4 (08:58):
And go through it like when you would put the trainer,
when you would put all them type brothers Ken and
the Man, is that right now? And watching her grow,
watching her shows grow like love her as a new artist,
love him.
Speaker 2 (09:12):
You also had you know, Mona Don't call Me White
Girl on the stage, you had the five to twenty podcast,
You had Gritton Eggs Like. It was just good to
see some of your favorite people that talk about all
the things all the time in person like and I
as like, as a fan of podcasts and a fan
(09:33):
of some of these people, I went out and sat
in the crowd and watched her as much as I could.
Hosting this year because I hosted it along with DJ
nbsh Al, I mean, hosting this year was a bit
different last year, I got to introduce a panel and
then I was able to actually kind of like watch
the show a.
Speaker 1 (09:49):
Bit more and you know, like experience like the crowd
a bit more.
Speaker 2 (09:52):
I didn't really get that much of an opportunity this
year to do that all that. I tried so shout
out to all the low Riders that I saw at
the Podcast Festival.
Speaker 1 (10:01):
But yeah, just an amazing day. I think it's just
beautiful to see something grow in real time.
Speaker 2 (10:07):
And again, I just started attending last year and they've
been doing this before that, and.
Speaker 1 (10:11):
I'm talking about growth.
Speaker 2 (10:12):
So I'm excited to see where they go next year
and how even bigger it gets next year.
Speaker 1 (10:16):
But one of the things that I love is that
I felt like the audience.
Speaker 2 (10:18):
Was so locked into the conversations this year, which is
amazing because you learned so much getting to watch the
pros do it in real time and then getting to
listen to some of the panels and all that. So
I didn't talk that everybody was able to take away
something and people enjoyed themselves and had a great time.
Thanks to everybody that bought my merch. The brown Gargrinding
merch was in the Black Effects store. Thank you guys
(10:40):
so much. There is a cold running live right now.
Just because I felt so much love around the merch,
I wanted to say thank y'all, So I'm making some
things even cheaper for y'all to shop.
Speaker 1 (10:51):
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off of the merch as you're shopping at checkout. And
that is why I'm here struggling right now doing this
podcast because I am exhausted. My body is exhausted, my
voice is exhausted. But I'm just grateful to even be
(11:16):
able to, Like I love being in situations where like
you're amongst the great so you have no choice but
to learn. And that's how the Black Effect Podcast Festival
fills every single year. Fel grateful to have experienced that
with the team in Atlanta. Now, another thing I did
while I was in Atlanta, I went to go see
the Michael Jackson movie. I want to go see the
Michael biopic. And you know, I saw, you know, all
(11:39):
of the headlines and the conversations about the fact that
the fact that the Michael biopic became the number one
movie in the world the biggest opening ever globally after
it grossed over two hundred million dollars. Now this means
that it outgrows nearly all of the films in twenty
(11:59):
twenty six period so far. But I want to go
see the movie, and I'm gonna be honest with y'all,
like I don't understand the critics reviews, and I'm gonna
tell you guys why, Like I understand why there's pushback
about what's not in the film, but I don't agree
with the critics that the stuff that should have been
added or not that I don't agree with them, but
(12:20):
I don't see why the critics solely focused on the
sexual assault allegations not being included in Michael's story, because
I feel like there was so much more that I
wanted to see in the story before you even got
to that time period. So originally I was supposed to
see the Michael movie Friday evening when I first landed
(12:40):
in Atlanta. A lot of my friends and my family
flew in because they loved the podcast festivals. While they come,
they've come both years now that I've been a part
of it.
Speaker 1 (12:50):
So we've went out to dinner.
Speaker 2 (12:51):
We got there things were moving so slow with our
service and we were just having a good time.
Speaker 1 (12:55):
We end up not making it to the movie.
Speaker 2 (12:56):
Then the podcast festival was Saturday, so Sunday before I
flew out, I did a matt in a movie and
I didn't get to see anybody dancing, you know, in
front of the screen like my movie theater.
Speaker 1 (13:08):
They were very chill.
Speaker 2 (13:09):
There were some people dressed up. But the movie was amazing.
The movie felt like a hug. The movie made you
like I was like smiling and warm the whole time
because I'm like.
Speaker 1 (13:19):
Man, like, we just we don't have this greatness anymore.
Speaker 2 (13:23):
Like the way Michael was so intentional about his career,
you know, shaping his like his his his brand, and
the way people received him and received information about him
and his mystique, and the way he didn't take for
granted what was happening in his life and the gift
(13:44):
that God gave him. But more importantly, the ability to
reach all people, not just black people, with all people
because of the platform and the amount of success and
the amount of fans that he had grown was like
it was the one of the best lessons in understanding
your why and just to see how rooted in family
(14:05):
he was, like, even to his detriment at some point,
to see how rooted in family he was.
Speaker 1 (14:11):
I think, you know, the goal of this movie, from everything.
Speaker 2 (14:13):
I've watched with the cast and read, was to humanize
him a bit more. And I think that there have
been things that have humanized him. But I think because
Michael Jackson is so famous, even all these years after
his death, it's almost like he's a fairy tale, Like
he's not a real person. And the conversation has you know,
been for the last few years about the allegations and
(14:35):
people resuing and refining lawsuits and you know, all of that.
I think that we get lost in all of that
stuff and forget just how god since that man's talent
was and and the fact that like, we will never
experience that again. That's all I kept thinking, is what
(14:56):
a time to be alive to be watching Michael Jackson
as his star roles and you're seeing him a massive,
crazy level of wealth and success in all of these
things that man like ah, And then I was thinking about,
you know, all of the crazy comparisons to Michael Jackson,
(15:18):
and I'm like, never, I don't ever want to hear
that again, like this movie really just it's just such
a feel good hug around who he was as a person,
what he stood on, and how he was blessed because
even in the worst of times, he stood on that
and what he did for others and just how important
(15:39):
that was. With everything that he had and everything he
had going on, it was always about other people. But
there's a lot that I wish that they had gotten
into that they didn't like and not the allegations. And
that's why I'm like, I don't really understand why the
critics only leaned into that.
Speaker 1 (15:56):
I think that.
Speaker 2 (15:56):
That's you know, as a as a person in the media,
I know that like that's the headline, right, Like that's
the that's the bait, that's that's what makes you click it,
that's what gets the conversation going. But to be honest,
I would love to see the conversation about Michael Jackson
and all the catalogs that he owned and how he
owned so much of the music industry's catalogs. I would
have loved to see more in depth, just the dynamic
(16:19):
with him and Quincy Jones, because I feel like the
way that we saw the dynamic of Quincy Jones and
him in this movie.
Speaker 1 (16:24):
Is how we kind of like typically always see it.
Speaker 2 (16:28):
And it wasn't a bad depiction or anything like that,
but I just I thought there would be more, especially
because his estate was so involved in this storytelling and
it's Antoine Fuqua, like who is a master storyteller.
Speaker 1 (16:40):
I also thought that we would get some more that
we had never.
Speaker 2 (16:45):
Seen or just just disa point of view about the
relationship that Michael Jackson had with his father Joe Jackson.
So I thought we would go a little bit deeper
there and that didn't happen. I also, you know, I
feel like they could have really used a Diana raw
parts of it. But and again not not just glossed over,
but when a death about that, I definitely think that
(17:08):
you know, the whole Pepsi in the Last Tour and
you know that time period.
Speaker 1 (17:14):
I wish that like we had gotten a bit more
like there was.
Speaker 2 (17:16):
It's like we hit so many points in his life
from the time he was a child to that last
like Bad Tour in nineteen eighty.
Speaker 1 (17:24):
Eight in this movie, like that's the timeline.
Speaker 2 (17:26):
But like I was like, oh, I wanted more, And
it wasn't even stuff that everybody else was yelling about
like there's so much like I would love to ask,
you know, Antwine Fuqua and some of the writers like
how did you guys in estate? How did you guys
figure out what to even keep and how to tell
the story?
Speaker 1 (17:44):
My only pushback of this was.
Speaker 2 (17:46):
That as amazing as it was, as much as it
made me smile, as much as it warmed my heart
to see him on the screen, and oh my god,
his nephew did an amazing job. The Younger Boy, the
child actor that played Michael Jackson as well, it was
really really good too. His nephew, Jafar Jackson, bodied this role.
From the movements, he looked just like Michael Jackson does
(18:08):
in all the videos, to the mannerisms, to the voice
to you know, like you really felt the heart and
soul of Michael Jackson through his nephew. Like I said
in the movie Theater, I'm like, yo, this family is
like the postal child family, for it is in the blood,
because it's so natury. He was doing it so naturally,
(18:30):
like there was no overacting, Like shout out to the
choreographers too, Oh my god. In the wardrobe, I know
Marcy Rogers, who's a black woman. She's a black woman's stylist.
Did the wardrobe here? Like oh my god? But yeah,
that was My only critique was that there was a
lot of like the story that we did see that,
like I wish we had just gotten deeper into, Like
I wish because I just think that they have the rain,
(18:53):
should be able to really tell us things we did
not know. And even with the Videlago stuff and in
the you know, Michael Jackson, you know, allegedly wanting to
be white, even that was like kind of glossed over
a bit, like they mentioned certain things, but like they
didn't go into death but like his struggle with that.
Speaker 1 (19:10):
So I wish we had gotten some of that.
Speaker 2 (19:12):
But when they were talking about a sequel, and I
know Lena Long was on the Today Show with Komen
Demingo to mention the sequel, let's take a listen. When
they talk about a sequel, there's no way they cannot.
Speaker 1 (19:23):
Do another movie. They have to.
Speaker 2 (19:25):
There is so much more that we got to get into.
Even if you never touch the allegations, there's so much more.
But it was a great movie. I recommend everyone to
go see it. Definitely something you take your family to
go see. It just makes you feel good. And also
like if you're a person that is getting up every
day and trying to figure out life and very passionate
about what you put out into the world, and how
(19:47):
it's a reminder of like greatness is rewarded, and especially
in twenty twenty six, I feel like we've gotten so
far away from like people actually caring about the product
of what they're putting out the the look, how it
makes people feel, but also the humanity of.
Speaker 1 (20:05):
The art, Like being an.
Speaker 2 (20:07):
Artist is like you literally are able to take people's
emotions from high to low, low to high, like you
can move mountains with art, with storytelling, with song, with dance.
I think we've gotten so far away from like how
much of a gift our gifts are and this movie
was a good reminder of that. So shout out to them.
(20:27):
You know, they definitely did sequel, though, like if there's
no sequel done, this is not just if you guys,
when I saw the movie this weekend, let me know
how you feeling. Get out there in the streets and
in the tweets. I'm Lauren l Rosa everywhere l O
r E N l O R O s A. I
tell you guys every single episode. Y'all could be anywhere
with any old body, but y'all choose to be right
(20:50):
here with me, my low riders.
Speaker 1 (20:52):
I appreciate you guys. Know what's so good to.
Speaker 2 (20:53):
See so many of you, the listeners of the podcast
at the podcast Festival.
Speaker 1 (20:58):
If you did.
Speaker 2 (20:59):
Purchase, please tag me. I want to post you guys
like I went the world and see y'all. I appreciate
it so much, and don't forget you can continue shopping
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Speaker 1 (21:09):
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Speaker 1 (21:24):
I gotta, I got a lot, I got a lot
I want to do this year and which is been
an installational weekend. I'll catch you guys in my next episode.
Some of the toys.
Speaker 2 (00:02):
I'm a homegrow that knows a little bit about everything
and everybody.
Speaker 1 (00:06):
You know, if you don't lie about that, right, you
can't even Hey, y'all, what's up.
Speaker 2 (00:11):
It's Laura l Rosa and this is another episode of
the Latest with Laura La Rosa. This is your deadly
dealing all things pop culture, entertainment, news and all of
the conversations that shake the room. Baby, oh my god, guys,
let's check in behind the scenes of the grind. So
(00:34):
if you cannot tell you right now, I am fighting
for my life to even get through this podcast episode.
We had such a great time in Atlanta, like I,
oh my god, this was my second year at the
Black Effect Podcast Festival that Charlemagne throws for Black Effects
(00:54):
the podcast network, which is how you guys are even
able to hear me right now. And shout out to
Dolly Bishop who's in the other network, who you know,
she is like superwoman of that whole production of the event.
This past weekend, it went down in Atlanta at Poeman
yards Man. There were so many people that popped out,
(01:15):
like little Duval uh Celo and Kate Michelle sat down
with drink TIMPs so Noriega in DJFN, Kresha Young Miami
sat down with Crystal Renee Hayslett keep his Positive Sweetie.
Also of this, Zatina Papus and Clarissa came. Clarissa wasn't
(01:35):
even like a part of the live podcast, but she
did end up on stage because Envy and Charlemagne brought
out like just some of the celebrities who were there.
So Little Duval performed because he recently celebrated the fact
that Living My Best Life went platinum his song I'm
Living my Best Life, and I thought that that was dope,
(01:58):
but to see the crowd react to him in real time.
I've never been to any of his comedy shows or like,
you know, I know he does Little Duvalde in person.
Speaker 1 (02:07):
I've only seen things online.
Speaker 2 (02:08):
Right, Oh my god, people went crazy when he came out.
(02:31):
The people love I thought it was just my mom
that loved litt Duvald down but the people love him, damn.
Speaker 1 (02:38):
But yeah.
Speaker 2 (02:39):
So Clarissa also popped out with pet Poofs and I
saw that going viral online or whatever, And I feel
like every time Clorisa goes viral now ever since she
began dating pet Poofs, it's always for you know, people
having a conversation about what they don't like about her
when it comes to her look or her relationship or whatever.
And what happens in real time, like in real life
(03:03):
with Clarissa is a lot different than what happens online.
Speaker 1 (03:07):
So she came to the festival, she was backstage.
Speaker 2 (03:10):
Clarisa has always been one of the nicest people to
me that I've you know, like celebrity wise, that I've met.
You know, when I first got back on the Breakfast
Club and things were kind of going a little crazy
and everything was happening, Clarissa had actually reached out to
me then and just you know, sent me some like
positive words and you know, like you know, not to
(03:32):
live in a noise and oh my god, like yes,
saying says same because I watched people react to her
in real time when she pulled up at the festival,
where she went and walked through the black marketplace of
the black vendors that were set up, and fans were
going crazy, and not only for her, they were going crazy.
(03:53):
I mean, the whole day was felling so much love
and people were really locked in. But like fans were
really excited to see her and honestly, to see Patpoofs
with her like they and I think it's because you
see it online so much so to be a you know,
a spectator of the sport, no pun intendent because we're
talking about the female quote here.
Speaker 1 (04:13):
And then to see you know, her in real.
Speaker 2 (04:15):
Life with Patpoofs as they you know, walk throughout the
event like they could barely get through the crowded people.
Speaker 1 (04:23):
That's how much love they were getting at the event, honestly.
But she came out on stage.
Speaker 2 (04:27):
You have Cheryl Underwood on stage as well, DJ MV
and Charlamagne on stage, and they're just having a conversation
real quick, real real quick, just bringing out a bunch
of the the you know, the people that are intendants.
And let's say, listen to Cheryl Underwood's conversation with Courses.
I'm like you spatch West and you chapling me passing
by y'all, thank you very much.
Speaker 1 (04:49):
Are you saying no no on pat poos?
Speaker 3 (04:51):
Okay, hold no no wait wait but y'all stop talking
papoos on playing right?
Speaker 2 (05:03):
Wait a minute, respect makes you ask to stay. I
don't know how I missed that moment, like in real time,
I don't know what they had me backstage prepping for,
but I am pissed that I missed that in real time.
Speaker 1 (05:16):
But men, Yeah, it was just such a great time.
Speaker 2 (05:18):
Ce Lo k Michelle took to Nourri and Ori E
and DJ Fne Drink Champs and their conversation range from
a lot of different things. To be honest, I wish
that they had more time, and I wish that they
had done one interview with one person versus two people
within forty minutes. Like I feel like they didn't really
(05:40):
get a chance to dive as deep as they normally
do on the show, which I understand. You know, when
you watch a live podcast, you're not like you're not
gonna get everything that you would normally get when.
Speaker 1 (05:48):
You watch them because it's live. Timing is different, like
you know.
Speaker 2 (05:51):
But I do wish they did one person versus the two,
even though both of those people are great interviews for
Drink Champs. But yeah, So they had a conversation and
they were talking to ce Lo about whether Landa is
running hip hop right now and the way he hesitated,
I'm like, yo, he want to say no so bad,
(06:11):
but like as like og Atlanta, he can't let's take
of the same.
Speaker 1 (06:15):
I think no, I think.
Speaker 3 (06:20):
It's like a having an intermission right then, I think
everybody in the concession instead, you.
Speaker 2 (06:30):
Know.
Speaker 3 (06:31):
But you know, the vibe, man, is just it's supposed
to be transcending, transferable. Touch the next man, touch the
next person, the next region, the next wave, style, trend,
et cetera. You know what I mean, like inspire it.
You know what I mean, Like a lot of the times, Man,
the industry is like a roller coaster ride. Let's say
(06:52):
six flames. You're gonna ride the scream of Shade. You're
gonna wait your line. You're gonna be anticipating, you know,
you know, on you're gonna be scared. You're gonna be
thrill about a minute and a half straight up for
however long it is, right, Just like damn, I'm waiting
forever for some shit that just Now's a minute. There's
some seconds, right or it seems. And you leave out,
(07:14):
you go back around, and the line is just as long,
if not longer. And if you want to ride that
right and again, if you want to ride that ride again.
Speaker 1 (07:21):
You got to get back in line. That's shit.
Speaker 3 (07:23):
And I think life is a lot like that. But
the industry is especially like that, so let it be.
Speaker 4 (07:28):
You know what I'm saying, No, no, no, they always
look over Memphis. I feel like Memphis is having the
time in hiptop right now, and we do have three
six Mafia, you know, and I feel like a lot
of the sound of that type of hip hop it was,
you know, took for them, they really didn't get. I
feel like all the acknowledgement three six my Fia deserves
(07:48):
when it comes to hip hop and being in the South,
and right now, I feel like the hip hop artist
from Memphis right now, you got push and you still
got off, you got Kendy Money, You've got you got finesse.
You know, you have some really talented lyricists right now
(08:12):
that everyone is listening to and they have that old
school Memphis.
Speaker 2 (08:15):
Sound and then they throw you know, they throw it
to Kay Michelle because Key Michelle jumps in and she's
having a conversation about the fact that Memphis is where's
at right now musically in the moment that they're having.
But one of the people that she bigs up is
kender Man, who is a female rapper who I've been like,
I love kend the Man Ken the Man pops her
(08:36):
s Hi t Okay. Kender Man is a you know,
she's a young female rapper.
Speaker 1 (08:42):
I feel like a lot. I thought the.
Speaker 2 (08:44):
Massive new KNDO Man, but Nori and DJ Fin didn't
know who she was.
Speaker 1 (08:48):
But Kem Michelle showed a lot of love.
Speaker 2 (08:50):
Let's say a listen Kingdom Man and you're going through
something right now, Ladies, you can put on Kenderman from
top to bottom.
Speaker 4 (08:58):
And go through it like when you would put the trainer,
when you would put all them type brothers Ken and
the Man, is that right now? And watching her grow,
watching her shows grow like love her as a new artist,
love him.
Speaker 2 (09:12):
You also had you know, Mona Don't call Me White
Girl on the stage, you had the five to twenty podcast,
You had Gritton Eggs Like. It was just good to
see some of your favorite people that talk about all
the things all the time in person like and I
as like, as a fan of podcasts and a fan
(09:33):
of some of these people, I went out and sat
in the crowd and watched her as much as I could.
Hosting this year because I hosted it along with DJ
nbsh Al, I mean, hosting this year was a bit
different last year, I got to introduce a panel and
then I was able to actually kind of like watch
the show a.
Speaker 1 (09:49):
Bit more and you know, like experience like the crowd
a bit more.
Speaker 2 (09:52):
I didn't really get that much of an opportunity this
year to do that all that. I tried so shout
out to all the low Riders that I saw at
the Podcast Festival.
Speaker 1 (10:01):
But yeah, just an amazing day. I think it's just
beautiful to see something grow in real time.
Speaker 2 (10:07):
And again, I just started attending last year and they've
been doing this before that, and.
Speaker 1 (10:11):
I'm talking about growth.
Speaker 2 (10:12):
So I'm excited to see where they go next year
and how even bigger it gets next year.
Speaker 1 (10:16):
But one of the things that I love is that
I felt like the audience.
Speaker 2 (10:18):
Was so locked into the conversations this year, which is
amazing because you learned so much getting to watch the
pros do it in real time and then getting to
listen to some of the panels and all that. So
I didn't talk that everybody was able to take away
something and people enjoyed themselves and had a great time.
Thanks to everybody that bought my merch. The brown Gargrinding
merch was in the Black Effects store. Thank you guys
(10:40):
so much. There is a cold running live right now.
Just because I felt so much love around the merch,
I wanted to say thank y'all, So I'm making some
things even cheaper for y'all to shop.
Speaker 1 (10:51):
It's cold BGG love b gg love.
Speaker 2 (10:55):
Spell l Obe browngargrinding dot com to get some percentages
off of the merch as you're shopping at checkout. And
that is why I'm here struggling right now doing this
podcast because I am exhausted. My body is exhausted, my
voice is exhausted. But I'm just grateful to even be
(11:16):
able to, Like I love being in situations where like
you're amongst the great so you have no choice but
to learn. And that's how the Black Effect Podcast Festival
fills every single year. Fel grateful to have experienced that
with the team in Atlanta. Now, another thing I did
while I was in Atlanta, I went to go see
the Michael Jackson movie. I want to go see the
Michael biopic. And you know, I saw, you know, all
(11:39):
of the headlines and the conversations about the fact that
the fact that the Michael biopic became the number one
movie in the world the biggest opening ever globally after
it grossed over two hundred million dollars. Now this means
that it outgrows nearly all of the films in twenty
(11:59):
twenty six period so far. But I want to go
see the movie, and I'm gonna be honest with y'all,
like I don't understand the critics reviews, and I'm gonna
tell you guys why, Like I understand why there's pushback
about what's not in the film, but I don't agree
with the critics that the stuff that should have been
added or not that I don't agree with them, but
(12:20):
I don't see why the critics solely focused on the
sexual assault allegations not being included in Michael's story, because
I feel like there was so much more that I
wanted to see in the story before you even got
to that time period. So originally I was supposed to
see the Michael movie Friday evening when I first landed
(12:40):
in Atlanta. A lot of my friends and my family
flew in because they loved the podcast festivals. While they come,
they've come both years now that I've been a part
of it.
Speaker 1 (12:50):
So we've went out to dinner.
Speaker 2 (12:51):
We got there things were moving so slow with our
service and we were just having a good time.
Speaker 1 (12:55):
We end up not making it to the movie.
Speaker 2 (12:56):
Then the podcast festival was Saturday, so Sunday before I
flew out, I did a matt in a movie and
I didn't get to see anybody dancing, you know, in
front of the screen like my movie theater.
Speaker 1 (13:08):
They were very chill.
Speaker 2 (13:09):
There were some people dressed up. But the movie was amazing.
The movie felt like a hug. The movie made you
like I was like smiling and warm the whole time
because I'm like.
Speaker 1 (13:19):
Man, like, we just we don't have this greatness anymore.
Speaker 2 (13:23):
Like the way Michael was so intentional about his career,
you know, shaping his like his his his brand, and
the way people received him and received information about him
and his mystique, and the way he didn't take for
granted what was happening in his life and the gift
(13:44):
that God gave him. But more importantly, the ability to
reach all people, not just black people, with all people
because of the platform and the amount of success and
the amount of fans that he had grown was like
it was the one of the best lessons in understanding
your why and just to see how rooted in family
(14:05):
he was, like, even to his detriment at some point,
to see how rooted in family he was.
Speaker 1 (14:11):
I think, you know, the goal of this movie, from everything.
Speaker 2 (14:13):
I've watched with the cast and read, was to humanize
him a bit more. And I think that there have
been things that have humanized him. But I think because
Michael Jackson is so famous, even all these years after
his death, it's almost like he's a fairy tale, Like
he's not a real person. And the conversation has you know,
been for the last few years about the allegations and
(14:35):
people resuing and refining lawsuits and you know, all of that.
I think that we get lost in all of that
stuff and forget just how god since that man's talent
was and and the fact that like, we will never
experience that again. That's all I kept thinking, is what
(14:56):
a time to be alive to be watching Michael Jackson
as his star roles and you're seeing him a massive,
crazy level of wealth and success in all of these
things that man like ah, And then I was thinking about,
you know, all of the crazy comparisons to Michael Jackson,
(15:18):
and I'm like, never, I don't ever want to hear
that again, like this movie really just it's just such
a feel good hug around who he was as a person,
what he stood on, and how he was blessed because
even in the worst of times, he stood on that
and what he did for others and just how important
(15:39):
that was. With everything that he had and everything he
had going on, it was always about other people. But
there's a lot that I wish that they had gotten
into that they didn't like and not the allegations. And
that's why I'm like, I don't really understand why the
critics only leaned into that.
Speaker 1 (15:56):
I think that.
Speaker 2 (15:56):
That's you know, as a as a person in the media,
I know that like that's the headline, right, Like that's
the that's the bait, that's that's what makes you click it,
that's what gets the conversation going. But to be honest,
I would love to see the conversation about Michael Jackson
and all the catalogs that he owned and how he
owned so much of the music industry's catalogs. I would
have loved to see more in depth, just the dynamic
(16:19):
with him and Quincy Jones, because I feel like the
way that we saw the dynamic of Quincy Jones and
him in this movie.
Speaker 1 (16:24):
Is how we kind of like typically always see it.
Speaker 2 (16:28):
And it wasn't a bad depiction or anything like that,
but I just I thought there would be more, especially
because his estate was so involved in this storytelling and
it's Antoine Fuqua, like who is a master storyteller.
Speaker 1 (16:40):
I also thought that we would get some more that
we had never.
Speaker 2 (16:45):
Seen or just just disa point of view about the
relationship that Michael Jackson had with his father Joe Jackson.
So I thought we would go a little bit deeper
there and that didn't happen. I also, you know, I
feel like they could have really used a Diana raw
parts of it. But and again not not just glossed over,
but when a death about that, I definitely think that
(17:08):
you know, the whole Pepsi in the Last Tour and
you know that time period.
Speaker 1 (17:14):
I wish that like we had gotten a bit more
like there was.
Speaker 2 (17:16):
It's like we hit so many points in his life
from the time he was a child to that last
like Bad Tour in nineteen eighty.
Speaker 1 (17:24):
Eight in this movie, like that's the timeline.
Speaker 2 (17:26):
But like I was like, oh, I wanted more, And
it wasn't even stuff that everybody else was yelling about
like there's so much like I would love to ask,
you know, Antwine Fuqua and some of the writers like
how did you guys in estate? How did you guys
figure out what to even keep and how to tell
the story?
Speaker 1 (17:44):
My only pushback of this was.
Speaker 2 (17:46):
That as amazing as it was, as much as it
made me smile, as much as it warmed my heart
to see him on the screen, and oh my god,
his nephew did an amazing job. The Younger Boy, the
child actor that played Michael Jackson as well, it was
really really good too. His nephew, Jafar Jackson, bodied this role.
From the movements, he looked just like Michael Jackson does
(18:08):
in all the videos, to the mannerisms, to the voice
to you know, like you really felt the heart and
soul of Michael Jackson through his nephew. Like I said
in the movie Theater, I'm like, yo, this family is
like the postal child family, for it is in the blood,
because it's so natury. He was doing it so naturally,
(18:30):
like there was no overacting, Like shout out to the
choreographers too, Oh my god. In the wardrobe, I know
Marcy Rogers, who's a black woman. She's a black woman's stylist.
Did the wardrobe here? Like oh my god? But yeah,
that was My only critique was that there was a
lot of like the story that we did see that,
like I wish we had just gotten deeper into, Like
I wish because I just think that they have the rain,
(18:53):
should be able to really tell us things we did
not know. And even with the Videlago stuff and in
the you know, Michael Jackson, you know, allegedly wanting to
be white, even that was like kind of glossed over
a bit, like they mentioned certain things, but like they
didn't go into death but like his struggle with that.
Speaker 1 (19:10):
So I wish we had gotten some of that.
Speaker 2 (19:12):
But when they were talking about a sequel, and I
know Lena Long was on the Today Show with Komen
Demingo to mention the sequel, let's take a listen. When
they talk about a sequel, there's no way they cannot.
Speaker 1 (19:23):
Do another movie. They have to.
Speaker 2 (19:25):
There is so much more that we got to get into.
Even if you never touch the allegations, there's so much more.
But it was a great movie. I recommend everyone to
go see it. Definitely something you take your family to
go see. It just makes you feel good. And also
like if you're a person that is getting up every
day and trying to figure out life and very passionate
about what you put out into the world, and how
(19:47):
it's a reminder of like greatness is rewarded, and especially
in twenty twenty six, I feel like we've gotten so
far away from like people actually caring about the product
of what they're putting out the the look, how it
makes people feel, but also the humanity of.
Speaker 1 (20:05):
The art, Like being an.
Speaker 2 (20:07):
Artist is like you literally are able to take people's
emotions from high to low, low to high, like you
can move mountains with art, with storytelling, with song, with dance.
I think we've gotten so far away from like how
much of a gift our gifts are and this movie
was a good reminder of that. So shout out to them.
(20:27):
You know, they definitely did sequel, though, like if there's
no sequel done, this is not just if you guys,
when I saw the movie this weekend, let me know
how you feeling. Get out there in the streets and
in the tweets. I'm Lauren l Rosa everywhere l O
r E N l O R O s A. I
tell you guys every single episode. Y'all could be anywhere
with any old body, but y'all choose to be right
(20:50):
here with me, my low riders.
Speaker 1 (20:52):
I appreciate you guys. Know what's so good to.
Speaker 2 (20:53):
See so many of you, the listeners of the podcast
at the podcast Festival.
Speaker 1 (20:58):
If you did.
Speaker 2 (20:59):
Purchase, please tag me. I want to post you guys
like I went the world and see y'all. I appreciate
it so much, and don't forget you can continue shopping
the merch, the bron Gargrinding merch.
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I'll drop at brongregrinding dot com.
Speaker 2 (21:11):
These cole b gg love l O B E for
a little to get some money off of your purchase,
just because I just appreciate all the level support and
these podcasts at the podcast must will inspired me.
Speaker 1 (21:24):
I gotta, I got a lot, I got a lot
I want to do this year and which is been
an installational weekend. I'll catch you guys in my next episode.
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