August 18, 2026 • 12 mins
Loren LoRosa dives into the controversy surrounding Stephen A. Smith after the National Association of Black Journalists gave him its “Thumbs Down Award” over comments about prominent Black women. Loren breaks down Stephen A.’s response, his history of supporting Black journalists and HBCUs, and the criticism surrounding his comments about Jasmine Crockett, Serena Williams, Kamala Harris, and Michelle Obama. She also explores the bigger question: Can we hold Black men accountable while still recognizing the work they’ve done for the Black community?
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Speaker 1 (00:02):
I'm a homegirl that knows a little bit about everything
and everybody.
Speaker 2 (00:05):
You don't know if you don't lie about that, right,
Lauren came in. Hey, y'all, what's up.
Speaker 1 (00:10):
It's Laura la Rosa and this is another episode of
the Latest with Laurena Rosa. This is your daily dig
on all things pop culture, entertainment, news, and all the
conversations that shake the room.
Speaker 2 (00:20):
Baby.
Speaker 1 (00:21):
So today we're going to get right on into the
episode because there is a lot to talk about. Let's
get on into the Latest. So we talked a lot
on our last episode. If you did not get a
chance to listen, go back and take a listen to
the episode prior to this one about the National Association
of Black Journalists, which is an organization it is the
largest organization in support of black journalists in the US,
(00:45):
and a shot that they threw stephen A. Smith's way.
Let's take a listen to the NABJ giving stephen A.
Smith the thumbs Down Award.
Speaker 3 (00:54):
A sick listen stephen A Smith, sports analysts and political commentator.
Smith has established a recurring public pattern of disparaging commentary
directed at prominent black women across politics, sports, and media.
Such commentary reinforces harmful narratives, undermines the fair and respectful
representation of Black women in public discourse, and stands in
(01:16):
direct conflict with nabj's long standing commitment to accurate, responsible,
and inclusive portrayals of black communities.
Speaker 2 (01:24):
Now in this.
Speaker 1 (01:25):
Award annually is a mock or a designer that is
given by the National Association of Black Journalists or NABJ,
to individuals or institutions whose reporting, commentary, or actions conflict
with the group's missions and values. Their mission their values
is all about uplifting black journalists, making it just easy
for black journalists to be in spaces doing their jobs,
(01:47):
telling their stories and being factual about it, and people
being factual about them as they do it. Now, this
award was first presented in nineteen eighty nine, has been
given out dozens and dozens of times, but this year
President of the NABJ, Aaron Haynes, decided to give it
to Steven A. Smith, who was a member of the
National Association of Black Journalists and has done a ton
(02:09):
of work with them, and he did not.
Speaker 2 (02:10):
Take it lightly.
Speaker 1 (02:11):
So he has finally responded, let's take a listen to
Stephen a smith on him just even finding out about
this and trying to figure out why he was awarded this.
Speaker 4 (02:23):
What the hell does this thumbs down award have to
do with journalism disparaging black women? How I've heard people
bringing up Jasmine Crockett. Did I sit up there asking
why would you curse out the president of the United
States with the cameras rolling?
Speaker 2 (02:37):
How is that going to help you?
Speaker 4 (02:38):
Yes?
Speaker 2 (02:38):
I did. Why did I do that?
Speaker 4 (02:40):
Not only because she's in Texas and I know they
were a little bit different in Texas, a bit more conservative,
and I didn't think that would work with her constituency
down there.
Speaker 3 (02:49):
How is that disparaging?
Speaker 5 (02:51):
Oh?
Speaker 4 (02:51):
Steven A goes after Michelle Obama. She's the one that
compared first Take to a reality show, And I use
that as an opportunity to say, this marvelous, wonderful woman,
who's the greatest first lady in American history, who I
have raised and praised and praised time and time and again.
All I did was say, I don't like the fact
that you said a vote for him, as in Donald Trump,
(03:14):
would be a vote against us as women.
Speaker 2 (03:17):
All I said was, there's.
Speaker 4 (03:18):
A whole bunch of pro lifers out there. There's a
whole bunch of people that care about the economy, on
immigration or safety in the streets. They might not even
be thinking about this issue. Now.
Speaker 1 (03:27):
I told you guys in my last episode that I personally,
personally know of a lot of work that Steven A.
Smith does in the black journalist space, the HBCU space.
He mentions a bitterness on his show in his response
as well too.
Speaker 2 (03:39):
Let's say listen in.
Speaker 4 (03:41):
Nineteen ninety four, I began my career at the Philadelphia
Enquirer courtesy of Sondra Long, a longtime executive for the
Philadelphia Enquirer, synonymous with the NABJ, whom I first met
at the job speare of the NABJ. My career started
because I was at the nab JAY job there and
yet Saturday night, I saw the president of the organization,
(04:05):
Aaron Haynes, go up on stage and give me a
thumbs down award for disparaging.
Speaker 1 (04:13):
Black But again, just because the person is doing and donating,
I don't think that is a reason for them to
go without criticism and critique. I don't always agree with
how Steve Nasmith does his job, but I do think
that the points that he puts on the board, not
just for his own career in himself, but what he
does for other people should mean something, you know, I think,
(04:33):
And I also think him apologizing when he gets it
wrong should mean something as well.
Speaker 2 (04:38):
And he made a good point.
Speaker 1 (04:40):
They talk about, you know, the remarks that he had,
you know, towards Serena Williams, which were out of pocket,
and he did apologize for Let's take listen to those remarks.
Speaker 4 (04:49):
If I'm married and my wife is going to join
troll and her ex, go back to his ass because
you don't belong.
Speaker 2 (04:57):
With me, what'd you worried about?
Speaker 4 (04:58):
Infl stop it.
Speaker 2 (05:06):
You if you win Serena.
Speaker 1 (05:08):
If you win Serena Williams, you're gonna be a kept
a man anyway.
Speaker 2 (05:12):
Don't start any apology.
Speaker 4 (05:14):
Not didn't utter a disrespectful word towards Serena Williams. So
I don't know where the whole Serena protection protocol kicks in.
I didn't say anything about her. I said, hey, listen,
if I'm a man and I'm married, I certainly don't
want my wife showing any kind of energy, positive, negative
or otherwise to another dude. That happens to be her
(05:35):
ex That'll make me think, what's she thinking about him?
Why is she thinking about him so much? Why does
she feel the need to exert any energy emotional or
otherwise when it comes to that. That's where I was
coming from. But it was more of a gender issue
more so than anything else, in terms of men and
how a lot of men feel. I'm not going to
(05:55):
say most. I'm not going to say all because I
don't know. I'm gonna tell you how I feel. What
I expressed is exactly what I meant. I'm not apologizing
for it. I'm not condoning it either.
Speaker 1 (06:12):
Did They also talk about Jasmine Crockett. We talked about
that on our last episode, and the fact that he
had talked about her in.
Speaker 2 (06:17):
A way to me that was just very Uh.
Speaker 1 (06:19):
It was respectability politics, like black people should talk like
this and sound like this and do these certain things
because if not, it'll never work for us in our
perspective areas, which I don't believe. But they also had
critiques of him, and you know different things that he
said about Kamala Harris. Now he reveals something that we
didn't know on this episode. He talks about how his
critiques of Kamala Harris and being able to do so
(06:42):
because she's a person in the political seat led to
a very real in person conversation A sick listen Kamala Harris.
Speaker 4 (06:48):
But everybody wants to bring up the fact that I
sat up there and I pointed out how she didn't
even make it to Iowa in twenty twenty, which is fact,
and that Democratic primary was bypassed in order to facilitate
her being a Democratic nominee for the presidency of the
United States of America. And then you have it in
the palm of your hands and his support of millions
(07:10):
upon millions of people, and you go on to view
and Sonny Houston asked you a softball question with Sonny
Houston acknowledge for the view, and you passed by saying
I can't think of anything I would do differently when
it was clearly a border crisis. Last time I checked NABJ,
that ain't journalism, that ain't talking fast.
Speaker 1 (07:29):
I did reach out to NABJA president Aaron Haynes, who
says that she will be coming on the show to
have the conversation about her decision.
Speaker 2 (07:39):
Stephen A.
Speaker 1 (07:39):
Smith did reveal that he's never met Aaron Haynes, they
don't personally have a relationship, even though he is very
close with a lot of the board members.
Speaker 2 (07:46):
He also says that there were some board members.
Speaker 1 (07:47):
And people who were actively there that were disgusted by
the fact that he was given this award, and he
talks to just a bit about why he is he
believes these attacks are coming his way.
Speaker 2 (07:59):
He says, it's politic.
Speaker 4 (08:00):
This ain't about disparaging women. This is about people who've
politicized everything, looking for an excuse to come at me
because you don't like what I have to say. I'm
gonna put it out there. This is about a bunch
of liberals, a bunch of Democrats coming for me, which
is why I should be flattered, because you hear the footsteps,
don't you. You know, at any given moment, I can
(08:21):
decide to come at it. I can decide to run
because with the stuff that I'm seeing, it wouldn't be
hard to win. I do have some conservative use, and
I understand as trifling as this president can be with
his behavior and some of the policies he's tried to implement,
I get the fear it's real. I understand it. I'm
a black man, but that does not give a journalist
(08:43):
organization the right to attack me that way.
Speaker 1 (08:47):
And again, I mean, look again, I think that you
should be able to criticize people on the side of
your table and across the table. But I do think
that there is a regard that should be always thought
about when speaking of blacklack women, especially because you and
as a black woman, I just know how for us,
it's like we already out here fighting the world, and
black men I hear y'all when y'all say this, we
(09:08):
fight the world every day when we walk outside of
our house, when we come home, we want peace. Black
women feel the same way. And home just isn't literally
your actual home. It's when you come into your community,
when you are indulging with your people, and it's not
always just peace.
Speaker 2 (09:22):
Sometimes it's just reverence. Like I just know that you want.
Speaker 1 (09:24):
I just want to know that even if we disagree,
you regard me in such a way that there's a
boundary to where we go in conversation and our disagreement.
Speaker 2 (09:36):
And I look all skin folk.
Speaker 1 (09:37):
And kim folk at the same time, so I understand
that sentiment as well. But I think with Stephen A. Smith,
it's we should correct, not cancel. Has always been my
sentiment when having a conversation about a Stephen A.
Speaker 2 (09:49):
Smith, And you.
Speaker 1 (09:50):
Know, I don't feel like that about everybody, but in
his situation, again, I didn't like a lot of the
comments he made, especially about Jasmincrack and I've said that
other places. But at the same time, I think we
can't get around what the path that he has forged. Now,
I will say, I think you know him having these
conversations about wanting to run for president. I felt like
(10:12):
when he responded to Donald Trump, you know, calling his
IQ low, his response was very soft and he had
way more energy for a Jasmine Crockett or a Kamalo
or Michelle Obama. When Michelle Obama talked about his show
and called, you know the show he's on a reality TV.
Speaker 2 (10:30):
Show, the energy was just different.
Speaker 1 (10:32):
That's what I also think has gotten him to this
point where Black people feel like there's a there's Stephen A. Smith,
the man, the myth, the legend who does all these
things for black people, black journalists, and then there's a
caricature of Stephen A. Smith that right now is positioning
himself for something and he's saying he's being attacked because
of politics, whereas other people look at it like because
(10:55):
of politics, that caricature is now coming out, and we
don't like it, and we want to correct it, and
we want to get as far away from it as
we can. This is a conversation that I think is
really interesting though, because again it's like, does the NABJ
as an organization is just a good look for them
to pick aside and not be neutral when coming at
a journalist like Stephen A.
Speaker 2 (11:14):
Smith.
Speaker 1 (11:16):
Now Aaron Haynes, the president of the NABJ, She sat
down with Roland Martin and she talked a bit about
the decision and some of the things leading up to this.
Speaker 2 (11:25):
Let's take a.
Speaker 5 (11:26):
Listener look at what we named this year. I think
we have to agree that there's a clear through line.
We're looking at the forces that make it harder for
black journalists to do their jobs and harder for black
communities to be covered fairly and fully. Like that includes
government officials that are exerting their pressure on the press,
news organizations that are making decisions that we can diversity
(11:46):
and coverage, media owners who are facing questions about the
treatment of black journalists who we know are under attack
by internal and external forces across this country, and also
influencer commentators whose rhetoric can be inform harmful narratives about
Black people, particularly black women.
Speaker 2 (12:03):
Now you know me.
Speaker 5 (12:04):
We've been on this board together for a year now,
and I've been very clear that advocacy is central to
my presidency, particularly advocacy around black women and our professions.
Speaker 1 (12:15):
Let me know what you guys think, like, I really
want to know, get in the streets, get in the tweets.
I was gonna say, do we even pick a side?
But I don't think that it is that we pick
a side. I think more so what conversations should be
coming out of this How do we police or how
do we set boundaries for the people that we know
are important to us?
Speaker 2 (12:33):
And should we even have to do that. I'm Lorna Rosa.
Speaker 1 (12:36):
This is another episode of the Latest with Marna La Rosa,
your DELI dig on all things pop culture, entertainment, news,
and all of the conversations that shake the room. I
tell you, guys, every episode, y'all could be anywhere within
your body, but y'all choose to be right here with me,
my little riders.
Speaker 2 (12:49):
I appreciate y'all, and I'll cut you in my next one.
I'm a homegirl that knows a little bit about everything
and everybody.
Speaker 2 (00:05):
You don't know if you don't lie about that, right,
Lauren came in. Hey, y'all, what's up.
Speaker 1 (00:10):
It's Laura la Rosa and this is another episode of
the Latest with Laurena Rosa. This is your daily dig
on all things pop culture, entertainment, news, and all the
conversations that shake the room.
Speaker 2 (00:20):
Baby.
Speaker 1 (00:21):
So today we're going to get right on into the
episode because there is a lot to talk about. Let's
get on into the Latest. So we talked a lot
on our last episode. If you did not get a
chance to listen, go back and take a listen to
the episode prior to this one about the National Association
of Black Journalists, which is an organization it is the
largest organization in support of black journalists in the US,
(00:45):
and a shot that they threw stephen A. Smith's way.
Let's take a listen to the NABJ giving stephen A.
Smith the thumbs Down Award.
Speaker 3 (00:54):
A sick listen stephen A Smith, sports analysts and political commentator.
Smith has established a recurring public pattern of disparaging commentary
directed at prominent black women across politics, sports, and media.
Such commentary reinforces harmful narratives, undermines the fair and respectful
representation of Black women in public discourse, and stands in
(01:16):
direct conflict with nabj's long standing commitment to accurate, responsible,
and inclusive portrayals of black communities.
Speaker 2 (01:24):
Now in this.
Speaker 1 (01:25):
Award annually is a mock or a designer that is
given by the National Association of Black Journalists or NABJ,
to individuals or institutions whose reporting, commentary, or actions conflict
with the group's missions and values. Their mission their values
is all about uplifting black journalists, making it just easy
for black journalists to be in spaces doing their jobs,
(01:47):
telling their stories and being factual about it, and people
being factual about them as they do it. Now, this
award was first presented in nineteen eighty nine, has been
given out dozens and dozens of times, but this year
President of the NABJ, Aaron Haynes, decided to give it
to Steven A. Smith, who was a member of the
National Association of Black Journalists and has done a ton
(02:09):
of work with them, and he did not.
Speaker 2 (02:10):
Take it lightly.
Speaker 1 (02:11):
So he has finally responded, let's take a listen to
Stephen a smith on him just even finding out about
this and trying to figure out why he was awarded this.
Speaker 4 (02:23):
What the hell does this thumbs down award have to
do with journalism disparaging black women? How I've heard people
bringing up Jasmine Crockett. Did I sit up there asking
why would you curse out the president of the United
States with the cameras rolling?
Speaker 2 (02:37):
How is that going to help you?
Speaker 4 (02:38):
Yes?
Speaker 2 (02:38):
I did. Why did I do that?
Speaker 4 (02:40):
Not only because she's in Texas and I know they
were a little bit different in Texas, a bit more conservative,
and I didn't think that would work with her constituency
down there.
Speaker 3 (02:49):
How is that disparaging?
Speaker 5 (02:51):
Oh?
Speaker 4 (02:51):
Steven A goes after Michelle Obama. She's the one that
compared first Take to a reality show, And I use
that as an opportunity to say, this marvelous, wonderful woman,
who's the greatest first lady in American history, who I
have raised and praised and praised time and time and again.
All I did was say, I don't like the fact
that you said a vote for him, as in Donald Trump,
(03:14):
would be a vote against us as women.
Speaker 2 (03:17):
All I said was, there's.
Speaker 4 (03:18):
A whole bunch of pro lifers out there. There's a
whole bunch of people that care about the economy, on
immigration or safety in the streets. They might not even
be thinking about this issue. Now.
Speaker 1 (03:27):
I told you guys in my last episode that I personally,
personally know of a lot of work that Steven A.
Smith does in the black journalist space, the HBCU space.
He mentions a bitterness on his show in his response
as well too.
Speaker 2 (03:39):
Let's say listen in.
Speaker 4 (03:41):
Nineteen ninety four, I began my career at the Philadelphia
Enquirer courtesy of Sondra Long, a longtime executive for the
Philadelphia Enquirer, synonymous with the NABJ, whom I first met
at the job speare of the NABJ. My career started
because I was at the nab JAY job there and
yet Saturday night, I saw the president of the organization,
(04:05):
Aaron Haynes, go up on stage and give me a
thumbs down award for disparaging.
Speaker 1 (04:13):
Black But again, just because the person is doing and donating,
I don't think that is a reason for them to
go without criticism and critique. I don't always agree with
how Steve Nasmith does his job, but I do think
that the points that he puts on the board, not
just for his own career in himself, but what he
does for other people should mean something, you know, I think,
(04:33):
And I also think him apologizing when he gets it
wrong should mean something as well.
Speaker 2 (04:38):
And he made a good point.
Speaker 1 (04:40):
They talk about, you know, the remarks that he had,
you know, towards Serena Williams, which were out of pocket,
and he did apologize for Let's take listen to those remarks.
Speaker 4 (04:49):
If I'm married and my wife is going to join
troll and her ex, go back to his ass because
you don't belong.
Speaker 2 (04:57):
With me, what'd you worried about?
Speaker 4 (04:58):
Infl stop it.
Speaker 2 (05:06):
You if you win Serena.
Speaker 1 (05:08):
If you win Serena Williams, you're gonna be a kept
a man anyway.
Speaker 2 (05:12):
Don't start any apology.
Speaker 4 (05:14):
Not didn't utter a disrespectful word towards Serena Williams. So
I don't know where the whole Serena protection protocol kicks in.
I didn't say anything about her. I said, hey, listen,
if I'm a man and I'm married, I certainly don't
want my wife showing any kind of energy, positive, negative
or otherwise to another dude. That happens to be her
(05:35):
ex That'll make me think, what's she thinking about him?
Why is she thinking about him so much? Why does
she feel the need to exert any energy emotional or
otherwise when it comes to that. That's where I was
coming from. But it was more of a gender issue
more so than anything else, in terms of men and
how a lot of men feel. I'm not going to
(05:55):
say most. I'm not going to say all because I
don't know. I'm gonna tell you how I feel. What
I expressed is exactly what I meant. I'm not apologizing
for it. I'm not condoning it either.
Speaker 1 (06:12):
Did They also talk about Jasmine Crockett. We talked about
that on our last episode, and the fact that he
had talked about her in.
Speaker 2 (06:17):
A way to me that was just very Uh.
Speaker 1 (06:19):
It was respectability politics, like black people should talk like
this and sound like this and do these certain things
because if not, it'll never work for us in our
perspective areas, which I don't believe. But they also had
critiques of him, and you know different things that he
said about Kamala Harris. Now he reveals something that we
didn't know on this episode. He talks about how his
critiques of Kamala Harris and being able to do so
(06:42):
because she's a person in the political seat led to
a very real in person conversation A sick listen Kamala Harris.
Speaker 4 (06:48):
But everybody wants to bring up the fact that I
sat up there and I pointed out how she didn't
even make it to Iowa in twenty twenty, which is fact,
and that Democratic primary was bypassed in order to facilitate
her being a Democratic nominee for the presidency of the
United States of America. And then you have it in
the palm of your hands and his support of millions
(07:10):
upon millions of people, and you go on to view
and Sonny Houston asked you a softball question with Sonny
Houston acknowledge for the view, and you passed by saying
I can't think of anything I would do differently when
it was clearly a border crisis. Last time I checked NABJ,
that ain't journalism, that ain't talking fast.
Speaker 1 (07:29):
I did reach out to NABJA president Aaron Haynes, who
says that she will be coming on the show to
have the conversation about her decision.
Speaker 2 (07:39):
Stephen A.
Speaker 1 (07:39):
Smith did reveal that he's never met Aaron Haynes, they
don't personally have a relationship, even though he is very
close with a lot of the board members.
Speaker 2 (07:46):
He also says that there were some board members.
Speaker 1 (07:47):
And people who were actively there that were disgusted by
the fact that he was given this award, and he
talks to just a bit about why he is he
believes these attacks are coming his way.
Speaker 2 (07:59):
He says, it's politic.
Speaker 4 (08:00):
This ain't about disparaging women. This is about people who've
politicized everything, looking for an excuse to come at me
because you don't like what I have to say. I'm
gonna put it out there. This is about a bunch
of liberals, a bunch of Democrats coming for me, which
is why I should be flattered, because you hear the footsteps,
don't you. You know, at any given moment, I can
(08:21):
decide to come at it. I can decide to run
because with the stuff that I'm seeing, it wouldn't be
hard to win. I do have some conservative use, and
I understand as trifling as this president can be with
his behavior and some of the policies he's tried to implement,
I get the fear it's real. I understand it. I'm
a black man, but that does not give a journalist
(08:43):
organization the right to attack me that way.
Speaker 1 (08:47):
And again, I mean, look again, I think that you
should be able to criticize people on the side of
your table and across the table. But I do think
that there is a regard that should be always thought
about when speaking of blacklack women, especially because you and
as a black woman, I just know how for us,
it's like we already out here fighting the world, and
black men I hear y'all when y'all say this, we
(09:08):
fight the world every day when we walk outside of
our house, when we come home, we want peace. Black
women feel the same way. And home just isn't literally
your actual home. It's when you come into your community,
when you are indulging with your people, and it's not
always just peace.
Speaker 2 (09:22):
Sometimes it's just reverence. Like I just know that you want.
Speaker 1 (09:24):
I just want to know that even if we disagree,
you regard me in such a way that there's a
boundary to where we go in conversation and our disagreement.
Speaker 2 (09:36):
And I look all skin folk.
Speaker 1 (09:37):
And kim folk at the same time, so I understand
that sentiment as well. But I think with Stephen A. Smith,
it's we should correct, not cancel. Has always been my
sentiment when having a conversation about a Stephen A.
Speaker 2 (09:49):
Smith, And you.
Speaker 1 (09:50):
Know, I don't feel like that about everybody, but in
his situation, again, I didn't like a lot of the
comments he made, especially about Jasmincrack and I've said that
other places. But at the same time, I think we
can't get around what the path that he has forged. Now,
I will say, I think you know him having these
conversations about wanting to run for president. I felt like
(10:12):
when he responded to Donald Trump, you know, calling his
IQ low, his response was very soft and he had
way more energy for a Jasmine Crockett or a Kamalo
or Michelle Obama. When Michelle Obama talked about his show
and called, you know the show he's on a reality TV.
Speaker 2 (10:30):
Show, the energy was just different.
Speaker 1 (10:32):
That's what I also think has gotten him to this
point where Black people feel like there's a there's Stephen A. Smith,
the man, the myth, the legend who does all these
things for black people, black journalists, and then there's a
caricature of Stephen A. Smith that right now is positioning
himself for something and he's saying he's being attacked because
of politics, whereas other people look at it like because
(10:55):
of politics, that caricature is now coming out, and we
don't like it, and we want to correct it, and
we want to get as far away from it as
we can. This is a conversation that I think is
really interesting though, because again it's like, does the NABJ
as an organization is just a good look for them
to pick aside and not be neutral when coming at
a journalist like Stephen A.
Speaker 2 (11:14):
Smith.
Speaker 1 (11:16):
Now Aaron Haynes, the president of the NABJ, She sat
down with Roland Martin and she talked a bit about
the decision and some of the things leading up to this.
Speaker 2 (11:25):
Let's take a.
Speaker 5 (11:26):
Listener look at what we named this year. I think
we have to agree that there's a clear through line.
We're looking at the forces that make it harder for
black journalists to do their jobs and harder for black
communities to be covered fairly and fully. Like that includes
government officials that are exerting their pressure on the press,
news organizations that are making decisions that we can diversity
(11:46):
and coverage, media owners who are facing questions about the
treatment of black journalists who we know are under attack
by internal and external forces across this country, and also
influencer commentators whose rhetoric can be inform harmful narratives about
Black people, particularly black women.
Speaker 2 (12:03):
Now you know me.
Speaker 5 (12:04):
We've been on this board together for a year now,
and I've been very clear that advocacy is central to
my presidency, particularly advocacy around black women and our professions.
Speaker 1 (12:15):
Let me know what you guys think, like, I really
want to know, get in the streets, get in the tweets.
I was gonna say, do we even pick a side?
But I don't think that it is that we pick
a side. I think more so what conversations should be
coming out of this How do we police or how
do we set boundaries for the people that we know
are important to us?
Speaker 2 (12:33):
And should we even have to do that. I'm Lorna Rosa.
Speaker 1 (12:36):
This is another episode of the Latest with Marna La Rosa,
your DELI dig on all things pop culture, entertainment, news,
and all of the conversations that shake the room. I
tell you, guys, every episode, y'all could be anywhere within
your body, but y'all choose to be right here with me,
my little riders.
Speaker 2 (12:49):
I appreciate y'all, and I'll cut you in my next one.
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