June 9, 2026 • 28 mins
On this episode of The Latest with Loren LoRosa, Loren dives into Idris Elba’s candid comments about the long-running James Bond rumors and why he believes the world may not be ready for a Black Bond. From representation in Hollywood to the fine line between authentic storytelling and forced diversity, Loren breaks down the conversation and shares her own perspective on what a Black James Bond could look like.
Plus, an update on the developing Pooh Shiesty case as a potential trial date is finally set. Loren unpacks the latest court filings, the challenges prosecutors may face, and the unanswered questions that could shape the outcome of the case.
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Speaker 1 (00:02):
I'm the homegrow that knows a little bit about everything
and everybody, you know, if you don't lie about that,
right Lauren, Hey, y'all, what's up. It's Laura l Rosa
and this is another episode of the Latest with Laura
l Rosa. This is your really dig on all things
pop culture, entertainment, news and all of the conversations that
shake the room. Baby. Now, we always start off with
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behind the scenes of the grind check in and this
episode is no different. So let's do it now. I
am not like a big sports fan girl, so like this,
this is me. Okay, Like I'll go to the parties,
I'll get cute, I'll enjoy a little drink, you drink
a little good time. I understand what's happening, even though
I don't know all the plays. I used to work
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at a gym in college, very fun factory work at
a gym in college, and we used to have the
intermural sports, and everybody who worked at the gym had
to participate in working the games of the intermural sports
and it was extra money. So I used to volunteer
and do it even when I wasn't assigned to. So
like the basketball games, the football games, I would have
to work them, so sometimes I would have to keep scoring,
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so I would have to know at least, you know,
on a basic level what was going on to be
able to like watch the score and like, you know,
it's crazy time in life, y'all. But listen to college.
You do what you gotta do to get by. So
I can go to like a sporting event and not
be like completely oblivious. But I don't have like a
team that I like die hard, go hard for. And
let me tell y'all something yesterday the way that the
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Knicks was getting ready the Knicks fans were getting ready
for the game that went down last night. Baby, I'm
telling y'all, like I got out of New York City
no lotter than like ten am. I was not playing
any games. I think I even missed our production media
after the Breakfast club yesterday because I was determined not
to be stuck trying to get out of New York City.
People were already parking their cars, like, you know, anywhere
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they could near train stations. I was grilling yesterday last night,
and I saw people like walking to different train stations
trying to get over the bridge. You're going to New
York in their next gear. The fact that people would
want to be in the mix of that is crazy
to me, but it shows me how much of a
diehard fan I am not. I'm like a I'm like
a cute fan. Like if it's cute and you want
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to invite me out because it looks good, and like
I can dress up and look good, I'm gonna go
and I'm always done for a good time. But no,
with Trump being at the game, I mean everything is
shutting down. I know Drewski was supposed to have like
this big meetup and Hero Square yesterday, which is not
too far, like just like a handful of blocks over
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from Madison Square Garden for those of you guys who
don't live in New York Madison Square Gardens where the
game it went down yesterday, the Nickson Spurs. I when
I saw the flyer, I thought it was crazy that
he would even do it. But I was like, I mean,
it's a good way to cause mayhem, which is it
works for him because he's a viral online comedian. They
do all those meetups and stuff like that. But I
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was like, that is going to be an insane thing.
We had one of our social media team members from
Breakfast Club Eli shout out to Okyo Eli on stream
w's in the chat we had him or he just
wanted to We didn't have him. He just wanted to
go out and he was like streaming everything that was
like downtown yesterday and like you know, he was there
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when they were telling people that they had shut down
the drew Ski meet up. It didn't even get shut down.
It didn't even have a chance to begin, and they
told him it wasn't allowed to happen. So Yo, maybe
I should reach out and get some more details. Like
I wonder if police and like fire Marshall saw it
and called him, Like I wonder how they knew, Like
how did they know to shut it down, because it's
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not like people were, well, there were some people there
waiting for drew Ski, according to what I was told
by you know, Eli, who was actually there on the scene.
But I don't think it was mayhem to the point
where they would know that, like, you know, like drew
Ski's coming here, we want to shut it down, unless
it had gotten so big and cross nyp's radar that
they were like nah, uh uh no, they're even putting
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like a walking band on some locations. So the NYPD
news x account yesterday posted before the game. Tonight's Game
three the NBA Finals an exciting time for New York
City and we want everyone to be able to enjoy
the game safely. But tonight's presidential visit, there will be
extremely tight security measures in and around MSG, which is
Madison Square Garden that the NYPD and Secret Service have
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planned together. Starting at four pm today, vehicular and pedestrian
traffic will be closed from West thirtieth Street to thirty
fifth Street, so on five blocks in New York City,
you can't It's not even about driving. All I was
thinking about was being able to drive down certain streets
and certain blocks being blocked off. You're not allowed to walk.
No one will be allowed inside the secure area unless
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you have a ticket to the game, which is still
going to be crazy because there's going to be a
lot of crazy fans with tickets to the game, a
train ticket, are going to business inside the area, have
credentials or some other authorized reasons to be there. I
don't know how they're gonna check all of this, to
be honest with you, Like between the blocks of thirtieth
and thirty fifth Street. I think they said, what between
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six and eighth Avenue. Sixth Avenue is the avenue of
the like, there's so much there. There's so many restaurants
and bars and stuff like that in the area, so
that's gonna be very hard for them to patrol. But
I'm interested to see how you know that that had
to be very hard for them to patrol. But I
mean the presidents in the town, so they of course
tried to do the best that they could. But I
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just I would have hated that have been one of
those cops out there. They say, everyone entering the secure
area will be screened and you can only enter at
these access points. Oh wow, So they had everybody going
to one, two, three, four or five five different access
points last night, and those were those point access points
were the only way you were able to enter within
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that area. So the reporting that it was gonna take
people three plus hours to get into the game if
you had a ticket, I see why now, because before
you even would have gotten to Madison Square Garden, you
had to do a whole security check on the street.
Imagine how many people had to line up at these
five points. Insane. So then when fans left, MSG after
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the game, NYP says that they were able to access
public transit and penstation. If they were trying to lead
the area by foot or car, they had to walk
north or south between twenty nine and thirty sixth Street,
you will not be able to walk inst us. Yeah,
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accident the game. Listen. I'm just glad I was out
of the madness. Okay, out of the madness. I barbecued
a bit, got to kind of chill out a little bit,
get ready for the next day. I don't know why
these last couple of weeks have felt like a world win,
but I feel like I'm coming down on the other
side of the world wind where things are like I'm
like getting a grasp on life. Sometimes I feel like
I'm like going through things so much and I try
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and like stop in a moment and literally claim, like
I'll say, I'm going to own the day. I'm not
going to let the day own me, because a lot
of times it feels like there's a just moving so
fast and I'm trying to keep up with the day.
And when that happens, oftentimes I get through the day
and I literally either I can't remember certain things that
happened throughout the day, or I am I'm sitting back
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and thinking of things that I did throughout the day
where I'm like, I could have did that a little
bit better, or ooh, I forgot to do this because
I was maneuvering so fast to do this other thing.
So I hate when that happens, and I hate that feeling.
But I feel like it is slowing down, like this week,
it's helping me to slow down and take control again.
I'm so excited for that. But yes, y'all, I mean
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we kind of already there that behind the scenes of
the Grind was a little bit of the latest, so
we might as well get right on into it. Let's
get into the latest. Idris Elba talking about, you know,
people that come and shut cities down. Eri's Elbow, who
is well renowned actor, a DJ, but also I mean,
he's just been a sex symbol for a very long time.
Speaker 2 (08:01):
Now.
Speaker 1 (08:03):
It's sitting down with British GQ and he's talking about
something that we don't often hear him talk about because
he's so many different characters, right, Like he's been on
the wire, he's been Nelson Mandela by the way, Nelson
Mandela XD. He just elbowed to play him himself. He
talked about that, Let's.
Speaker 2 (08:20):
Take a listen, me playing Nelson Mandela. Come on, I
think like him. Was like, no, no, no, it's not like that.
In fact, Nelson Mandela wants you to play Nelson Mandela.
I was like what. At first, it was a lot
of pressure. I was like, nah, I can't. I mean, what,
how do you even approach something like that? And then
once I got to understand, I spoke to Justin Chadwick director,
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I was like, Okay, this isn't a you know, like
for like wanting to look like him, wanted to body
his essence, and I said, okay, understand. And it was
based on the book Long Water Freedom, which is a
seven hundred page books, big story, and it was just
you know, going on that history journey to understand how
to play him, play various parts of his life. You know,
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I moved to South Africa obviously before shooting. I wanted
to understand the culture, especially the Hossa culture and South
Africans generally and their understanding of Nelson Mandela's story. I
just wanted to absorb that because that was really important
to me that I didn't do like an impression of him.
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Nelson Mandela is a most polarizing character. You know, for
some people he's an absolute hero and for others he's
less of You know, even if I'm doing an accent
or whatever, I understand the culture is the easiest way
for me to get into it, to absorb it. I
learned a lot about South Africa, about the history. I
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got to hang with Winnie Mandela a lot, and she
was very helpful in helping construct me as as an actor.
For Nelson. She always said that, you know, you rem
fmind me of him when he was younger. You remind
me of him a lot. You know, you're very calm,
and you're very well spoken in your forthright and you
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seem like you've got conviction. He's just said that a lot.
Said he was very handsome. You're very handsome.
Speaker 1 (10:14):
He's done so many different, big, powerful, insanely powerful roles.
We played that to make that point, Like all these
different roles, he's been able to play and be these
people that have stopped the world and that people will remember.
But a few weeks ago he was knighted over in
the UK and the knighthood is it's like you hear
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in us you know how people are given like a
day in the city or a key to the city,
like you're honored by high level of political officials for
the work that you've done in the community or impact.
So he was knighted for his work that he does
with children in the community over there. A lot of
it is about, you know, he tackling knife crimes, which
is a big thing. Gun violence is really big here
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in the US, but knife crime is really big over
in the UK. Remember I went to London and I
was younger, and I was in high school and at
that time, I was experiencing like a lot of my
friends were passing away from gun violence. And I remember
going over there on a speaking tour for about two
weeks and I thought that it was so crazy that
guns weren't their biggest issue, that it was knives. I
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I alwaysber will remember that. But he's tackling NiFe crime
in different communities over there, and you know, with this
new community enterprise that he's running, he's talking a lot
about just getting comfortable with his role of his actual self,
so stepping outside of the characters and leaning into who
he is as a dad, as a partner, as a person,
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as a community activist and what that looks like and
how that plays into his roles. Because one of the
things that you identify right off the bat and reading
this GQ article or listening to parts of it, not
all of it is written. Some of it is in video,
but not all of it that is written is in video.
So that's why you'll hear Idris and some of this
podcast episode, but then some of it I will be
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reading whatever's on and video. But what you identify instantly
is the fact that, like well most actors, they have
like a through line, so it's like you know them
for certain types of roles. With Idris, he's done everything
from super serious to super dramatic to gangster to you know,
like on the not comedian, it's shy but like lighter,
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lighthearted side of things. Like, He's kind of all over
the place when it comes to the roles that he's
adapted in his career. But one of the roles that
I feel like will never escape him, no matter how
much he denies it, and he hasn't even played the
role yet is James Bond. People cannot wait for Idris
Elba to play James Bond. But he's here again. All
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these years later. This conversation started in like twenty nineteen,
twenty twenty, so about six to seven years later, still
denying it. Wait, I'm sorry, seven years later, that's like
fifteen years later. Yes, that's like fifteen years later. While
my math is off. You could tell what role I
didn't play well, the mathematician. So the article opens literally
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right off the bat with them talking about the James
Bond rumors and the writer in GQ her name is
Hayley Campbell. She says, it's been fifteen years and we
are still talking about the James Bond rumors. I mean,
this man has played so many roles, and then she
lists some of them and she says, but Idris Elba
and that James Bond combo is one that still just
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will not go away. Now, she details Idris Elba's response
when she brings up the role of James Bond. So
she says that she brings it up and Idris Elba
playfully rolls his eyes and slides down in the seat
until all she can see is this do rag? I
mean because at this point it's like how many times
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does he have to tell us it's not going to happen?
But I don't know. We just won't go. But what
I thought was interesting here is that not only did
he say it wasn't going to happen, but he says
that he doesn't think the world is even ready for
a black man to play James Bond. So when asked
about playing James Bond, he responds, it was never legit.
It was always just a rumor. It started. At the
Italian premiere of Quantum of Solace, held a day after
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the two thousand and eight US presidential election, Daniel Craig
said that Barack Obama's victory suggested that we had reached
the time for a black Bond. Elba says fans simply
took it and ran with it. He says, I've always
felt that it's not a realistic thing. He believes he
believes that James Bond was written how he was written
for a reason, But I was But he says he
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was complimented by the thought that people you know would
think that he could play James Bond. He says he
also thinks realistically, in realistic terms, some markets just don't
go for that. Talking about having a black James Bond.
Bond is big all over the world and audiences won't
all go for a black male, an African male playing vine.
That's not what they like in their culture period. He
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also believes that changing Bond isn't really necessary. Bond is
so unrealistic, says Idris Elbow, So a hint of a
reality is good, but let's not try to make it woke.
Adris continues, I think you've got to be pure to
what it is. He continues, it's escapism. Don't try and
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answer the world's taste. Just be ning. Now. On one hand,
I understand what he's saying, Like I wouldn't want to
see a woke James Bond, So like, even if he
did do the role, I'm kind of glad that it
didn't happen around that Black Square time where although white
people was like kneeling in the capitol, you know what
I mean, because white people were just being crazy around
that time, and everything was so black, and like it
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was like every movie, every TV show, every company was
giving you a rolodex on everything black and everything slavery
and everything that they should be apologizing for. So it
was like just it was overly like it was like
the world outside of black people were trying to overcompensate
for what black people have already known experience and been
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going through for over four hundred years. It was just
too much, and it made a lot of things to me,
like very like like why, like I remember crazy comparison,
but this is how my mind works. I remember when
they put Ebney K. Williams on Real Housewives of New York. Now,
don't get me wrong, I loved the Real Housewives franchise.
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Atlanta is my favorite, Potomac Is right after that, Beverly
Hills after that, and I haven't gotten into any of
the other other girls, right, But with New York I
watched Real Housewives of New York a bit, but I
remember tuning in specifically for Ebney K. Williams season because
it was like such a big deal for her as
a black woman to be on that show, especially during
that time, because again, it was that time where the
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world was looking to be educated and looking too on
black things and it was our responsibility to do so,
which I hate. And they were just looking to write
a lot of the songs that they had done over
all of these decades and hundreds of years, right, So
they brought her on the show, and I felt like
I understood the point of what they were trying to do,
and I think that Ebanie K. Williams is a very brilliant, educated,
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you know, can hold her own black woman. But I
just was like it was just too much, like it
was overly like I'm gonna teach you guys, or I'm
gonna show you guys the black experience, instead of her
just being on the show and being a black woman
who lives this luxurious life like it was forced, in
my opinion, and I don't think that had anything to
do with her. I think that that was a lot
of our production in the network and what they were
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desperately trying to achieve because they saw how white a
lot of their casts were outside of Atlanta. And I
think if you would have took a movie like James
Bond at that time and tried to do that, it
would have ruined the franchise and it would have been
a It just would have looked crazy on ages. But
to be honest with you, I don't think if he
had read a script that wasn't as genius as Bond
had already been Black Men or not, it wouldn't have happened.
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He would have said, no, to it, and I'm glad
that he would have because imagine a racially woke and
cheesy James Bond, like, I'm all here for race, I'm
all here for reparations, I'm all here for black black, black,
ay black, y'all. But I do think that, like I
hate watching things where you can tell that they were
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just trying to like check the black box or check
the racial box, or check the inclusion box. Like hate
that to my core, especially when it's things that have
like scripts that have death and energy that requires so
much more than that. But if you want to bring
those things in, there are ways that you can do it.
I mean, number one, you bring black people into the
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writer's rooms, into the director's seats, into the producer rooms,
and things don't have to be subtle. I think a
black James Bond existing period, like you don't got to
take them, you know, to Harlem, you don't gotta And
it's no shade to American gangs and all the movies
that did things like that, But it doesn't have to
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be this like complete three sixty U turn of a
storyline like James Bond can still be James Bond. But
I think just seeing a black man exist in that
role and be powerful, which I think could have easily
been done. It would have been beautifully done if done
the right way. I agree that you don't want to
make it too woke, so let's get that out of the way.
I do agree with each you's elpow on that. What
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I don't agree with is oh and second thing I
agree with is that the world is not ready for it.
Let me get his direct quote. He says, but I
was complimented by it, talking about the thought that people
the fact that people would even think that it would
be a good James Bond. I think in realistic terms,
some markets just don't go for that. Bond is big
all over the world, and audiences won't all go for
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a black male and African male playing Bond. That's just
not what they like in their culture period. Listen. I
don't disagree with that either, but I do disagree with
the fact of like that. Like for me, that wouldn't
be a reason of why it shouldn't be done, because
I don't think that the world is any is ready
for anything black lead to be flipped on his face
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like that whatsoever? Like they got mad about the Little
Mermaid about Hailey Bailey playing the Little Mermaid. The Little
Mermaid is an animated character at its core, but because
she was a black woman, people were upset. So that's
always going to be a thing. I don't think the
world will ever be ready for anything that goes black
after being historically white or ambiguous for however amount of time. Right,
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But I don't think I don't agree with that's why
you don't do it. I just think when you do it,
there is a level of I mean, it's just an
extra level of care that would need to be taken
because you understand the conversation. You understand the difference of
you know, how a black Bond would see the world
versus how a white one would. You understand how the
world would see a black Bond James Bond versus how
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we see the white one in the movie. So far,
like we get all of that and those nuances I
think could make for a great story. But I also
think if not done the right way, they could make
for a really not good if you were experienced as
well too. But I just don't think that that's why
you don't do it, though, Like that's that's my only
push back here with him and I get and I understand.
I've seen him, you know, say comments over the years
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that people ask people have brought this up, that it
wasn't happening and that he doesn't want to be known
as the black James Bond. But and I completely understand
that as well. I think that there's always this thing
of like not wanting to be typecast and like suck
in a box, especially for an actor like Iris Ebb
but who's been able to do so much and so
many wide ranging characters. But I wouldn't be mad at
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seeing it at all. I do think it takes a
certain person. I think in Eatres is one of the
people that I would think of that could do it,
only because I think he has this there's like a
coolness to him, but there's also like a there's an
elevated like, uh, it's like a charm, but there's also
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it's like a smart I don't know how you approach it.
Like when I think of James Bond, I think of
someone who's like untouchable. He's very smart, he's very witty,
he moves, he sticks and goes. You know, he's a leader.
He's just the guy. And I think that there are
a lot of black male leads right now who could
do it, you know who I also think could be
good at it outside of Idris Elba, but people don't
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talk about him or not a lot. Yeah, yeah, I'm
doing my ma teen. I think that he is a
person that could do it as well too. I think
you would need someone who is who's acted on a
high level enough, like who's done enough high level films
and films that have required them to like really deeply
study the character, the history of the character, the movements,
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the notions, the like so many deep things that I
think an actor who's high level and really good, like
you know, Michael b. Jordan is really really good, Dempson
a dress is really really good. Like they're all great.
But I think you need like an Idris or a
Yah Yah Matin who to me, they would like they
would just bury themselves in the preparation for the character
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enough we're like we would literally really believe that they
walk and breath. James Bond, I don't know if I like,
I don't know if Michael be Jordan could could convince
me in a in a James Bond role as good
as he is. I don't think that demseon interest is
there yet either as good as he is, I don't think.
I think there's a It's just like a there's a
certain level of like maturity that is needed there. And
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I think I saw that when I watch yah Ya
abdul Matin and Man on Fire. I saw that there
Aris Elbow. I've seen it over and over again in
several of his roles where I'm like, Okay, he has
that meticulous like art like study studying of the craft,
but also like you just I don't know, you just
believe him differently. Yeah. So look, I say all this
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to say, who am I, But I'll be here for y'all.
Let me know what y'all think now real quick, as
we close the latest this episode, I wanted to do
a quick update shifting gears a bit. I mean, we
still talking crime and crime solving and all the things,
right the gangsters, but we're going into real life here
(24:05):
some gangsters that shouldn't have been trying to be gangst
allegedly because you guys remember the case that we covered
where rap artists Gucci Man, rap artists and label owner
Gucci Man was reportedly abducted in robbed at gunpoint in
a music studio. Now they arrested his artists Pushchisy for that,
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along with another music artist named Big thirty out of
Memphis and Pushchaisy's dad. The artist Big thirty has been
let go, not let go, but he's been released on
a bond until trial. Push Iisty and his father, however,
are still being held. I know there were some conversations
happening in court through documents, not in court, but through
documents about Pushisky's dad trying to be released until it
(24:50):
was time for trial. Well, we now have a potential
trial date set, so there were some documents filed today
that just kind of outlined the schedule of what's about
to happen. So the new trial date that we were
looking at is in February of twenty twenty seven, so
that's about seven and eight months from now, and that
will give both the prosecution and defense time to prep
(25:13):
their arguments, go through witnesses, submit, witnesses, go through discovery
from both sides. So evidence that is, you know, being
going to be used in court to gather but also
to give it to the other side so that they
can prepare their arguments against it and vice versa. But
this is going to be really interesting. That this trial
is going to be really interesting because there's a lot
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of unanswered questions. Number One, evidence inside of the studio
is still a big question. You had Pusheisty's side, who
is a defense that is saying, yeah, you guys can
place them at the studio. You know, he was on
an ankle monitor which was tracking his location. There are photos,
but there's nothing from inside the studio that proves that
an actual robbery or an abduction took place. Now there's
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supposed to be some cell phone footage of Gucci Minh
being forced to sign this contract, but that video footage
and the actual contract itself up until this point that
we know and we may find out differently as evidence
comes out, as are following these documents getting ready for trial,
but that we know of right now, none of that
was found. So for the prosecutors, their biggest thing is
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going to be able is being able to prove that
Puschisty like what happened inside that music studio, especially because
from all of their reports outside of a police report
in the beginning, they don't have cooperation from any of
the victims, including Gucci Minh. At this point, in time,
So proving that is going to be tough. Now, it's
also going to be tough for Gucci man if he's
subpoena to testify, and just to see how he navigates that,
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because I know that that's something that he doesn't want
to do that he you know, we all know he
has talked about being completely against But I'm interested to
see how that goes. And yeah, I mean Pushisty's team
has to. It's like, Okay, we know that he was there.
They got to make it make sense as why he
was there. And they can claim, you know, small things
like he's an artist, it's a studio, that's why he
(27:05):
was there. Makes sense, But it's like to be there
that day that time, to have called and you know,
bust people in like all of the things. He would
have to proved that these are things that he does
on a day to day, weekly week basis. Being in
the studio is gonna be a little bit easier to
prove again because he is a music artist. But the
people that were there that were reportedly seeing with you know,
jewelry that was allegedly taken from the victims later on
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social media, Like there's small things like that that he's
going to need to explain. But if there's no evidence
of what actually happened inside of the studio outside of
victim testimony, and you don't have victims testifying, I am
very curious to see how the prosecution goes about this one,
because if they can't stick that at most pusheci walks
(27:49):
away being slapped on a wrist because he violated his
probation because he was on home confinement and you know,
everything would have had to have been approved him being
out of the house. You know, the fact that he
was round guns, you know all of that, and that
may sit them down again. It may or may not,
but that is like the least of his worries right now.
So we'll keep you guys updated as that develops. I'm
(28:10):
Laura l Rosa. This is the latest with Laura Rosa.
This is your daily did on all things pop culture, entertainment, news,
and all of the conversations that shape the room. Baby.
I tell you, guys, every single episode, and I mean it,
y'all could be anywhere with anybody talking about all of
the things that you guys choose to be right here
with me, my lowriders. I appreciate you, and I would
catch you in my next episode.
I'm the homegrow that knows a little bit about everything
and everybody, you know, if you don't lie about that,
right Lauren, Hey, y'all, what's up. It's Laura l Rosa
and this is another episode of the Latest with Laura
l Rosa. This is your really dig on all things
pop culture, entertainment, news and all of the conversations that
shake the room. Baby. Now, we always start off with
(00:24):
behind the scenes of the grind check in and this
episode is no different. So let's do it now. I
am not like a big sports fan girl, so like this,
this is me. Okay, Like I'll go to the parties,
I'll get cute, I'll enjoy a little drink, you drink
a little good time. I understand what's happening, even though
I don't know all the plays. I used to work
(00:46):
at a gym in college, very fun factory work at
a gym in college, and we used to have the
intermural sports, and everybody who worked at the gym had
to participate in working the games of the intermural sports
and it was extra money. So I used to volunteer
and do it even when I wasn't assigned to. So
like the basketball games, the football games, I would have
to work them, so sometimes I would have to keep scoring,
(01:07):
so I would have to know at least, you know,
on a basic level what was going on to be
able to like watch the score and like, you know,
it's crazy time in life, y'all. But listen to college.
You do what you gotta do to get by. So
I can go to like a sporting event and not
be like completely oblivious. But I don't have like a
team that I like die hard, go hard for. And
let me tell y'all something yesterday the way that the
(01:29):
Knicks was getting ready the Knicks fans were getting ready
for the game that went down last night. Baby, I'm
telling y'all, like I got out of New York City
no lotter than like ten am. I was not playing
any games. I think I even missed our production media
after the Breakfast club yesterday because I was determined not
to be stuck trying to get out of New York City.
People were already parking their cars, like, you know, anywhere
(01:53):
they could near train stations. I was grilling yesterday last night,
and I saw people like walking to different train stations
trying to get over the bridge. You're going to New
York in their next gear. The fact that people would
want to be in the mix of that is crazy
to me, but it shows me how much of a
diehard fan I am not. I'm like a I'm like
a cute fan. Like if it's cute and you want
(02:14):
to invite me out because it looks good, and like
I can dress up and look good, I'm gonna go
and I'm always done for a good time. But no,
with Trump being at the game, I mean everything is
shutting down. I know Drewski was supposed to have like
this big meetup and Hero Square yesterday, which is not
too far, like just like a handful of blocks over
(02:36):
from Madison Square Garden for those of you guys who
don't live in New York Madison Square Gardens where the
game it went down yesterday, the Nickson Spurs. I when
I saw the flyer, I thought it was crazy that
he would even do it. But I was like, I mean,
it's a good way to cause mayhem, which is it
works for him because he's a viral online comedian. They
do all those meetups and stuff like that. But I
(02:58):
was like, that is going to be an insane thing.
We had one of our social media team members from
Breakfast Club Eli shout out to Okyo Eli on stream
w's in the chat we had him or he just
wanted to We didn't have him. He just wanted to
go out and he was like streaming everything that was
like downtown yesterday and like you know, he was there
(03:18):
when they were telling people that they had shut down
the drew Ski meet up. It didn't even get shut down.
It didn't even have a chance to begin, and they
told him it wasn't allowed to happen. So Yo, maybe
I should reach out and get some more details. Like
I wonder if police and like fire Marshall saw it
and called him, Like I wonder how they knew, Like
how did they know to shut it down, because it's
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not like people were, well, there were some people there
waiting for drew Ski, according to what I was told
by you know, Eli, who was actually there on the scene.
But I don't think it was mayhem to the point
where they would know that, like, you know, like drew
Ski's coming here, we want to shut it down, unless
it had gotten so big and cross nyp's radar that
they were like nah, uh uh no, they're even putting
(04:02):
like a walking band on some locations. So the NYPD
news x account yesterday posted before the game. Tonight's Game
three the NBA Finals an exciting time for New York
City and we want everyone to be able to enjoy
the game safely. But tonight's presidential visit, there will be
extremely tight security measures in and around MSG, which is
Madison Square Garden that the NYPD and Secret Service have
(04:25):
planned together. Starting at four pm today, vehicular and pedestrian
traffic will be closed from West thirtieth Street to thirty
fifth Street, so on five blocks in New York City,
you can't It's not even about driving. All I was
thinking about was being able to drive down certain streets
and certain blocks being blocked off. You're not allowed to walk.
No one will be allowed inside the secure area unless
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you have a ticket to the game, which is still
going to be crazy because there's going to be a
lot of crazy fans with tickets to the game, a
train ticket, are going to business inside the area, have
credentials or some other authorized reasons to be there. I
don't know how they're gonna check all of this, to
be honest with you, Like between the blocks of thirtieth
and thirty fifth Street. I think they said, what between
(05:09):
six and eighth Avenue. Sixth Avenue is the avenue of
the like, there's so much there. There's so many restaurants
and bars and stuff like that in the area, so
that's gonna be very hard for them to patrol. But
I'm interested to see how you know that that had
to be very hard for them to patrol. But I
mean the presidents in the town, so they of course
tried to do the best that they could. But I
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just I would have hated that have been one of
those cops out there. They say, everyone entering the secure
area will be screened and you can only enter at
these access points. Oh wow, So they had everybody going
to one, two, three, four or five five different access
points last night, and those were those point access points
were the only way you were able to enter within
(05:51):
that area. So the reporting that it was gonna take
people three plus hours to get into the game if
you had a ticket, I see why now, because before
you even would have gotten to Madison Square Garden, you
had to do a whole security check on the street.
Imagine how many people had to line up at these
five points. Insane. So then when fans left, MSG after
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the game, NYP says that they were able to access
public transit and penstation. If they were trying to lead
the area by foot or car, they had to walk
north or south between twenty nine and thirty sixth Street,
you will not be able to walk inst us. Yeah,
(06:34):
accident the game. Listen. I'm just glad I was out
of the madness. Okay, out of the madness. I barbecued
a bit, got to kind of chill out a little bit,
get ready for the next day. I don't know why
these last couple of weeks have felt like a world win,
but I feel like I'm coming down on the other
side of the world wind where things are like I'm
like getting a grasp on life. Sometimes I feel like
I'm like going through things so much and I try
(06:57):
and like stop in a moment and literally claim, like
I'll say, I'm going to own the day. I'm not
going to let the day own me, because a lot
of times it feels like there's a just moving so
fast and I'm trying to keep up with the day.
And when that happens, oftentimes I get through the day
and I literally either I can't remember certain things that
happened throughout the day, or I am I'm sitting back
(07:18):
and thinking of things that I did throughout the day
where I'm like, I could have did that a little
bit better, or ooh, I forgot to do this because
I was maneuvering so fast to do this other thing.
So I hate when that happens, and I hate that feeling.
But I feel like it is slowing down, like this week,
it's helping me to slow down and take control again.
I'm so excited for that. But yes, y'all, I mean
(07:39):
we kind of already there that behind the scenes of
the Grind was a little bit of the latest, so
we might as well get right on into it. Let's
get into the latest. Idris Elba talking about, you know,
people that come and shut cities down. Eri's Elbow, who
is well renowned actor, a DJ, but also I mean,
he's just been a sex symbol for a very long time.
Speaker 2 (08:01):
Now.
Speaker 1 (08:03):
It's sitting down with British GQ and he's talking about
something that we don't often hear him talk about because
he's so many different characters, right, Like he's been on
the wire, he's been Nelson Mandela by the way, Nelson
Mandela XD. He just elbowed to play him himself. He
talked about that, Let's.
Speaker 2 (08:20):
Take a listen, me playing Nelson Mandela. Come on, I
think like him. Was like, no, no, no, it's not like that.
In fact, Nelson Mandela wants you to play Nelson Mandela.
I was like what. At first, it was a lot
of pressure. I was like, nah, I can't. I mean, what,
how do you even approach something like that? And then
once I got to understand, I spoke to Justin Chadwick director,
(08:41):
I was like, Okay, this isn't a you know, like
for like wanting to look like him, wanted to body
his essence, and I said, okay, understand. And it was
based on the book Long Water Freedom, which is a
seven hundred page books, big story, and it was just
you know, going on that history journey to understand how
to play him, play various parts of his life. You know,
(09:03):
I moved to South Africa obviously before shooting. I wanted
to understand the culture, especially the Hossa culture and South
Africans generally and their understanding of Nelson Mandela's story. I
just wanted to absorb that because that was really important
to me that I didn't do like an impression of him.
(09:26):
Nelson Mandela is a most polarizing character. You know, for
some people he's an absolute hero and for others he's
less of You know, even if I'm doing an accent
or whatever, I understand the culture is the easiest way
for me to get into it, to absorb it. I
learned a lot about South Africa, about the history. I
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got to hang with Winnie Mandela a lot, and she
was very helpful in helping construct me as as an actor.
For Nelson. She always said that, you know, you rem
fmind me of him when he was younger. You remind
me of him a lot. You know, you're very calm,
and you're very well spoken in your forthright and you
(10:07):
seem like you've got conviction. He's just said that a lot.
Said he was very handsome. You're very handsome.
Speaker 1 (10:14):
He's done so many different, big, powerful, insanely powerful roles.
We played that to make that point, Like all these
different roles, he's been able to play and be these
people that have stopped the world and that people will remember.
But a few weeks ago he was knighted over in
the UK and the knighthood is it's like you hear
(10:35):
in us you know how people are given like a
day in the city or a key to the city,
like you're honored by high level of political officials for
the work that you've done in the community or impact.
So he was knighted for his work that he does
with children in the community over there. A lot of
it is about, you know, he tackling knife crimes, which
is a big thing. Gun violence is really big here
(10:56):
in the US, but knife crime is really big over
in the UK. Remember I went to London and I
was younger, and I was in high school and at
that time, I was experiencing like a lot of my
friends were passing away from gun violence. And I remember
going over there on a speaking tour for about two
weeks and I thought that it was so crazy that
guns weren't their biggest issue, that it was knives. I
(11:18):
I alwaysber will remember that. But he's tackling NiFe crime
in different communities over there, and you know, with this
new community enterprise that he's running, he's talking a lot
about just getting comfortable with his role of his actual self,
so stepping outside of the characters and leaning into who
he is as a dad, as a partner, as a person,
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as a community activist and what that looks like and
how that plays into his roles. Because one of the
things that you identify right off the bat and reading
this GQ article or listening to parts of it, not
all of it is written. Some of it is in video,
but not all of it that is written is in video.
So that's why you'll hear Idris and some of this
podcast episode, but then some of it I will be
(12:02):
reading whatever's on and video. But what you identify instantly
is the fact that, like well most actors, they have
like a through line, so it's like you know them
for certain types of roles. With Idris, he's done everything
from super serious to super dramatic to gangster to you know,
like on the not comedian, it's shy but like lighter,
(12:26):
lighthearted side of things. Like, He's kind of all over
the place when it comes to the roles that he's
adapted in his career. But one of the roles that
I feel like will never escape him, no matter how
much he denies it, and he hasn't even played the
role yet is James Bond. People cannot wait for Idris
Elba to play James Bond. But he's here again. All
(12:50):
these years later. This conversation started in like twenty nineteen,
twenty twenty, so about six to seven years later, still
denying it. Wait, I'm sorry, seven years later, that's like
fifteen years later. Yes, that's like fifteen years later. While
my math is off. You could tell what role I
didn't play well, the mathematician. So the article opens literally
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right off the bat with them talking about the James
Bond rumors and the writer in GQ her name is
Hayley Campbell. She says, it's been fifteen years and we
are still talking about the James Bond rumors. I mean,
this man has played so many roles, and then she
lists some of them and she says, but Idris Elba
and that James Bond combo is one that still just
(13:35):
will not go away. Now, she details Idris Elba's response
when she brings up the role of James Bond. So
she says that she brings it up and Idris Elba
playfully rolls his eyes and slides down in the seat
until all she can see is this do rag? I
mean because at this point it's like how many times
(13:57):
does he have to tell us it's not going to happen?
But I don't know. We just won't go. But what
I thought was interesting here is that not only did
he say it wasn't going to happen, but he says
that he doesn't think the world is even ready for
a black man to play James Bond. So when asked
about playing James Bond, he responds, it was never legit.
It was always just a rumor. It started. At the
Italian premiere of Quantum of Solace, held a day after
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the two thousand and eight US presidential election, Daniel Craig
said that Barack Obama's victory suggested that we had reached
the time for a black Bond. Elba says fans simply
took it and ran with it. He says, I've always
felt that it's not a realistic thing. He believes he
believes that James Bond was written how he was written
for a reason, But I was But he says he
(14:42):
was complimented by the thought that people you know would
think that he could play James Bond. He says he
also thinks realistically, in realistic terms, some markets just don't
go for that. Talking about having a black James Bond.
Bond is big all over the world and audiences won't
all go for a black male, an African male playing vine.
That's not what they like in their culture period. He
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also believes that changing Bond isn't really necessary. Bond is
so unrealistic, says Idris Elbow, So a hint of a
reality is good, but let's not try to make it woke.
Adris continues, I think you've got to be pure to
what it is. He continues, it's escapism. Don't try and
(15:25):
answer the world's taste. Just be ning. Now. On one hand,
I understand what he's saying, Like I wouldn't want to
see a woke James Bond, So like, even if he
did do the role, I'm kind of glad that it
didn't happen around that Black Square time where although white
people was like kneeling in the capitol, you know what
I mean, because white people were just being crazy around
that time, and everything was so black, and like it
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was like every movie, every TV show, every company was
giving you a rolodex on everything black and everything slavery
and everything that they should be apologizing for. So it
was like just it was overly like it was like
the world outside of black people were trying to overcompensate
for what black people have already known experience and been
(16:05):
going through for over four hundred years. It was just
too much, and it made a lot of things to me,
like very like like why, like I remember crazy comparison,
but this is how my mind works. I remember when
they put Ebney K. Williams on Real Housewives of New York. Now,
don't get me wrong, I loved the Real Housewives franchise.
(16:27):
Atlanta is my favorite, Potomac Is right after that, Beverly
Hills after that, and I haven't gotten into any of
the other other girls, right, But with New York I
watched Real Housewives of New York a bit, but I
remember tuning in specifically for Ebney K. Williams season because
it was like such a big deal for her as
a black woman to be on that show, especially during
that time, because again, it was that time where the
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world was looking to be educated and looking too on
black things and it was our responsibility to do so,
which I hate. And they were just looking to write
a lot of the songs that they had done over
all of these decades and hundreds of years, right, So
they brought her on the show, and I felt like
I understood the point of what they were trying to do,
and I think that Ebanie K. Williams is a very brilliant, educated,
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you know, can hold her own black woman. But I
just was like it was just too much, like it
was overly like I'm gonna teach you guys, or I'm
gonna show you guys the black experience, instead of her
just being on the show and being a black woman
who lives this luxurious life like it was forced, in
my opinion, and I don't think that had anything to
do with her. I think that that was a lot
of our production in the network and what they were
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desperately trying to achieve because they saw how white a
lot of their casts were outside of Atlanta. And I
think if you would have took a movie like James
Bond at that time and tried to do that, it
would have ruined the franchise and it would have been
a It just would have looked crazy on ages. But
to be honest with you, I don't think if he
had read a script that wasn't as genius as Bond
had already been Black Men or not, it wouldn't have happened.
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He would have said, no, to it, and I'm glad
that he would have because imagine a racially woke and
cheesy James Bond, like, I'm all here for race, I'm
all here for reparations, I'm all here for black black, black,
ay black, y'all. But I do think that, like I
hate watching things where you can tell that they were
(18:18):
just trying to like check the black box or check
the racial box, or check the inclusion box. Like hate
that to my core, especially when it's things that have
like scripts that have death and energy that requires so
much more than that. But if you want to bring
those things in, there are ways that you can do it.
I mean, number one, you bring black people into the
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writer's rooms, into the director's seats, into the producer rooms,
and things don't have to be subtle. I think a
black James Bond existing period, like you don't got to
take them, you know, to Harlem, you don't gotta And
it's no shade to American gangs and all the movies
that did things like that, But it doesn't have to
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be this like complete three sixty U turn of a
storyline like James Bond can still be James Bond. But
I think just seeing a black man exist in that
role and be powerful, which I think could have easily
been done. It would have been beautifully done if done
the right way. I agree that you don't want to
make it too woke, so let's get that out of the way.
I do agree with each you's elpow on that. What
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I don't agree with is oh and second thing I
agree with is that the world is not ready for it.
Let me get his direct quote. He says, but I
was complimented by it, talking about the thought that people
the fact that people would even think that it would
be a good James Bond. I think in realistic terms,
some markets just don't go for that. Bond is big
all over the world, and audiences won't all go for
(19:42):
a black male and African male playing Bond. That's just
not what they like in their culture period. Listen. I
don't disagree with that either, but I do disagree with
the fact of like that. Like for me, that wouldn't
be a reason of why it shouldn't be done, because
I don't think that the world is any is ready
for anything black lead to be flipped on his face
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like that whatsoever? Like they got mad about the Little
Mermaid about Hailey Bailey playing the Little Mermaid. The Little
Mermaid is an animated character at its core, but because
she was a black woman, people were upset. So that's
always going to be a thing. I don't think the
world will ever be ready for anything that goes black
after being historically white or ambiguous for however amount of time. Right,
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But I don't think I don't agree with that's why
you don't do it. I just think when you do it,
there is a level of I mean, it's just an
extra level of care that would need to be taken
because you understand the conversation. You understand the difference of
you know, how a black Bond would see the world
versus how a white one would. You understand how the
world would see a black Bond James Bond versus how
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we see the white one in the movie. So far,
like we get all of that and those nuances I
think could make for a great story. But I also
think if not done the right way, they could make
for a really not good if you were experienced as
well too. But I just don't think that that's why
you don't do it, though, Like that's that's my only
push back here with him and I get and I understand.
I've seen him, you know, say comments over the years
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that people ask people have brought this up, that it
wasn't happening and that he doesn't want to be known
as the black James Bond. But and I completely understand
that as well. I think that there's always this thing
of like not wanting to be typecast and like suck
in a box, especially for an actor like Iris Ebb
but who's been able to do so much and so
many wide ranging characters. But I wouldn't be mad at
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seeing it at all. I do think it takes a
certain person. I think in Eatres is one of the
people that I would think of that could do it,
only because I think he has this there's like a
coolness to him, but there's also like a there's an
elevated like, uh, it's like a charm, but there's also
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it's like a smart I don't know how you approach it.
Like when I think of James Bond, I think of
someone who's like untouchable. He's very smart, he's very witty,
he moves, he sticks and goes. You know, he's a leader.
He's just the guy. And I think that there are
a lot of black male leads right now who could
do it, you know who I also think could be
good at it outside of Idris Elba, but people don't
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talk about him or not a lot. Yeah, yeah, I'm
doing my ma teen. I think that he is a
person that could do it as well too. I think
you would need someone who is who's acted on a
high level enough, like who's done enough high level films
and films that have required them to like really deeply
study the character, the history of the character, the movements,
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the notions, the like so many deep things that I
think an actor who's high level and really good, like
you know, Michael b. Jordan is really really good, Dempson
a dress is really really good. Like they're all great.
But I think you need like an Idris or a
Yah Yah Matin who to me, they would like they
would just bury themselves in the preparation for the character
(22:59):
enough we're like we would literally really believe that they
walk and breath. James Bond, I don't know if I like,
I don't know if Michael be Jordan could could convince
me in a in a James Bond role as good
as he is. I don't think that demseon interest is
there yet either as good as he is, I don't think.
I think there's a It's just like a there's a
certain level of like maturity that is needed there. And
(23:22):
I think I saw that when I watch yah Ya
abdul Matin and Man on Fire. I saw that there
Aris Elbow. I've seen it over and over again in
several of his roles where I'm like, Okay, he has
that meticulous like art like study studying of the craft,
but also like you just I don't know, you just
believe him differently. Yeah. So look, I say all this
(23:45):
to say, who am I, But I'll be here for y'all.
Let me know what y'all think now real quick, as
we close the latest this episode, I wanted to do
a quick update shifting gears a bit. I mean, we
still talking crime and crime solving and all the things,
right the gangsters, but we're going into real life here
(24:05):
some gangsters that shouldn't have been trying to be gangst
allegedly because you guys remember the case that we covered
where rap artists Gucci Man, rap artists and label owner
Gucci Man was reportedly abducted in robbed at gunpoint in
a music studio. Now they arrested his artists Pushchisy for that,
(24:28):
along with another music artist named Big thirty out of
Memphis and Pushchaisy's dad. The artist Big thirty has been
let go, not let go, but he's been released on
a bond until trial. Push Iisty and his father, however,
are still being held. I know there were some conversations
happening in court through documents, not in court, but through
documents about Pushisky's dad trying to be released until it
(24:50):
was time for trial. Well, we now have a potential
trial date set, so there were some documents filed today
that just kind of outlined the schedule of what's about
to happen. So the new trial date that we were
looking at is in February of twenty twenty seven, so
that's about seven and eight months from now, and that
will give both the prosecution and defense time to prep
(25:13):
their arguments, go through witnesses, submit, witnesses, go through discovery
from both sides. So evidence that is, you know, being
going to be used in court to gather but also
to give it to the other side so that they
can prepare their arguments against it and vice versa. But
this is going to be really interesting. That this trial
is going to be really interesting because there's a lot
(25:33):
of unanswered questions. Number One, evidence inside of the studio
is still a big question. You had Pusheisty's side, who
is a defense that is saying, yeah, you guys can
place them at the studio. You know, he was on
an ankle monitor which was tracking his location. There are photos,
but there's nothing from inside the studio that proves that
an actual robbery or an abduction took place. Now there's
(25:59):
supposed to be some cell phone footage of Gucci Minh
being forced to sign this contract, but that video footage
and the actual contract itself up until this point that
we know and we may find out differently as evidence
comes out, as are following these documents getting ready for trial,
but that we know of right now, none of that
was found. So for the prosecutors, their biggest thing is
(26:20):
going to be able is being able to prove that
Puschisty like what happened inside that music studio, especially because
from all of their reports outside of a police report
in the beginning, they don't have cooperation from any of
the victims, including Gucci Minh. At this point, in time,
So proving that is going to be tough. Now, it's
also going to be tough for Gucci man if he's
subpoena to testify, and just to see how he navigates that,
(26:42):
because I know that that's something that he doesn't want
to do that he you know, we all know he
has talked about being completely against But I'm interested to
see how that goes. And yeah, I mean Pushisty's team
has to. It's like, Okay, we know that he was there.
They got to make it make sense as why he
was there. And they can claim, you know, small things
like he's an artist, it's a studio, that's why he
(27:05):
was there. Makes sense, But it's like to be there
that day that time, to have called and you know,
bust people in like all of the things. He would
have to proved that these are things that he does
on a day to day, weekly week basis. Being in
the studio is gonna be a little bit easier to
prove again because he is a music artist. But the
people that were there that were reportedly seeing with you know,
jewelry that was allegedly taken from the victims later on
(27:29):
social media, Like there's small things like that that he's
going to need to explain. But if there's no evidence
of what actually happened inside of the studio outside of
victim testimony, and you don't have victims testifying, I am
very curious to see how the prosecution goes about this one,
because if they can't stick that at most pusheci walks
(27:49):
away being slapped on a wrist because he violated his
probation because he was on home confinement and you know,
everything would have had to have been approved him being
out of the house. You know, the fact that he
was round guns, you know all of that, and that
may sit them down again. It may or may not,
but that is like the least of his worries right now.
So we'll keep you guys updated as that develops. I'm
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