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Speaker 2 (00:07):
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Speaker 3 (00:09):
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Speaker 4 (00:37):
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Speaker 5 (00:49):
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Speaker 4 (00:49):
All right, Well, let's get the show cracking. It's the
Breakfast Club.

Speaker 5 (00:51):
On this Friday.

Speaker 4 (00:53):
It's a looday is your time to get it off
your chest.

Speaker 7 (00:56):
Way up, bother you man or bless something, Get up
and get some.

Speaker 8 (01:00):
Call up now eight hundred and five eighty five one
five one. We want to hear from you on the
breakfast glove.

Speaker 9 (01:06):
Hello.

Speaker 6 (01:06):
Who's this?

Speaker 10 (01:07):
Hi, Good morning, my name is Katrina.

Speaker 4 (01:09):
Hey Katrina, good morning. To get over your chest.

Speaker 10 (01:11):
I just wanted to talk about how I took my
car about a week ago to get fixed on a Saturday.
They gave me back the car and worse condition that
I took my cars to them. Nothing's coming on on
the dad. It doesn't even run. And I just want
to talk about loyalty and how it's good to keep customers.
And they told me they were gonna reaf on me
and then they just cut off all communications from me.

(01:34):
So I just want to get that off my chest.
That's good to be loyalty your customers and keep a
good repon for your you know, for yourself and your company.

Speaker 5 (01:43):
Yeah, what's the name of it?

Speaker 10 (01:45):
What's a small it's I live in a small town
in Kansas, and I had known this guy for like
since I was a teenager. I'm forty two years old
right now, and I've been taking my car to this guy.
He passed away a couple of years ago and his
daughter took over the business. And she's not the famous
him because he was a good person that was trustworthy,
and I guess obviously she's not the same as him.

Speaker 5 (02:05):
So she's a mechanic.

Speaker 10 (02:07):
I guess so because she came to my house Monday
to supposedly fix it and try to fix it again
because it's a timing valve fel annoyed or something.

Speaker 11 (02:18):
And it still didn't work.

Speaker 10 (02:19):
So she said she was gonna come tomorrow, and then
she didn't mean yesterday, and then she didn't answer me
at all yesterday.

Speaker 4 (02:25):
Mmmm, well you try again today because you just never know.

Speaker 3 (02:28):
She could have been in an accident, You could have
a family emergency, it could be anything.

Speaker 4 (02:31):
Give another day before you start wilding out.

Speaker 10 (02:33):
Yeah. No, I think my patience has award enough and
I keep I just want.

Speaker 11 (02:39):
To let it go.

Speaker 4 (02:40):
Okay, all right, have a good one, but thank you y'all.

Speaker 5 (02:43):
Have a great day, you too. I'm studying mechanic's crazy, stupid.
I'll trust the study mechanic though, that's you trust.

Speaker 1 (02:51):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (02:52):
They just look like the how to fix the top
until you got that situation that that lady got.

Speaker 5 (02:57):
She probably don't even tea.

Speaker 1 (02:58):
If I'll trusted studying mechanic, I ain't gonna front mechanic.
I'll be like, man, please here take that Richard and
I know you know what to do.

Speaker 8 (03:05):
The screw driver, shut up man and breakfast club?

Speaker 5 (03:11):
What's what's up? What's your name?

Speaker 12 (03:12):
Casey out of Ohio? I wanted to get off my tip,
Charler lay. I wanted to set you straight on yo.
La tells about the Drake scoring Kendrick Lamark. The only
reason Drake is scored and he ain't even tho genders
storing the label.

Speaker 13 (03:29):
Because prior to the beat where a lot of people
don't know that he was a negotiation with the labels
because the number was good the table.

Speaker 1 (03:36):
He like, hey, shut up man, you learned that off
TikTok and YouTube. Drake did a deal Drake?

Speaker 13 (03:43):
Oh, actually I thought it entertainment news.

Speaker 11 (03:46):
Entertainment news.

Speaker 13 (03:49):
Because the shoes, the numbers, and the metrics to lord
the deal that was offering for his new contract.

Speaker 1 (03:54):
That's not that's not true. But let me ask you
a question. When when did When is the last time
Drake did his deal? Since you following tament news when
the last time he read up.

Speaker 13 (04:03):
Drakes deal, he read up this deal of twenty nineteen
where him and him away and renegotiated after the little
to Bato.

Speaker 5 (04:12):
No, it was twenty twenty two. He got four hundred
million dollars no forty million yes with UMG yes yes
two two.

Speaker 1 (04:21):
Look it up, mister. I do my research, mister, I
know what I'm talking about. I follow entertainment news.

Speaker 13 (04:27):
I do follow undertag of news, and I can miss
some point sometimes, but for the majority of it. And
there to get shoulder narrative where the stories the lawsuit
is not about him was stealing him over the falls.
He's stowing the label over them, edging the metrics to
make it look better for Darren dis.

Speaker 1 (04:45):
Here's the thing, man, nobody has benefited from that system
doing that more than Drake. Okay, like that's just a fact.
So so here's the thing. What you know, You know
how they say men lie, women lie? Numbers don't. Drake
is telling you that numbers lie because he's telling you
that this is what the these systems do. You think
that system has never done that for him? You think
Tusy slide was really a number one record, sir.

Speaker 5 (05:06):
Yeah, Slide. You know what I'm saying, Like, really you
really think that?

Speaker 10 (05:10):
Sir?

Speaker 13 (05:11):
All right, I'm gonna give you that's one of them
talks about he could.

Speaker 5 (05:15):
Have kept in the vault. Yeah bye man.

Speaker 1 (05:17):
But when you got when you got a system behind
you that can inflate numbers, they can make things number one,
and they did that with Tousy Slide.

Speaker 5 (05:23):
But they they have to do that with not like us.
I can tell you that much.

Speaker 4 (05:26):
Get it off your.

Speaker 3 (05:26):
Chest eight hundred and five eight five one oh five one.
If you need the vin you can hit us up.
It's the Breakfast Club.

Speaker 8 (05:31):
Good morning, the Breakfast Club. Wait, this is your time
to get it off your chest. Eight hundred five eight
five one five one. We want to hear from you
on the Breakfast Club.

Speaker 11 (05:46):
Hello, Who's this is good morning?

Speaker 9 (05:48):
This is a journer.

Speaker 4 (05:49):
Hey, get it off your chest.

Speaker 5 (05:51):
Mama.

Speaker 9 (05:51):
I'm a little nervous, but I really want people to
reach out to your friends and family, check on them
to make sure that they were okay. It's been almost
eight months since I lost my soulmates to suicide. And
when he committed suicide, we was on a break but

(06:12):
we were still very much in communication with each other.
But I knew something was wrong, and my gut told
me to go check, but my head said no, don't
do it. And had I listened to my gut, I
would have known something was wrong and could have been
able to help. Also, with women and their children, when

(06:36):
you have a man that wants to be in the
lives of their kids, you shouldn't use the child as
a porn to get back because no one never ever
thought that he would commit suicide because of what was
happening with his children. So I just want people to

(06:58):
just be aware of those things.

Speaker 5 (07:00):
Absolutely, yes, ma'am. Well, definitely sending you healing energy. Queen.

Speaker 11 (07:03):
Yes, thank you.

Speaker 5 (07:04):
Absolutely all right, Mama, I have a blessed that you
can do the thing. He's very heavy this morning. Crack
joke or something?

Speaker 1 (07:11):
You got some money?

Speaker 5 (07:13):
Hello?

Speaker 4 (07:13):
Who's this? Hello?

Speaker 14 (07:15):
This is blind Tommy?

Speaker 5 (07:16):
What's up? Blind Timmy?

Speaker 10 (07:18):
Your core? I'm mad because I'm cut.

Speaker 5 (07:23):
I'm a blind, broke comedian. Are you? So you got
to pick one?

Speaker 6 (07:27):
Now?

Speaker 5 (07:27):
Which one you mad about? Being blind, being broke, or
being a comedian?

Speaker 11 (07:30):
All three?

Speaker 5 (07:32):
Well, you should learn to see the bright shot. Damn.

Speaker 4 (07:35):
How you know people not just stealing your money.

Speaker 5 (07:40):
I ain't got nobody to steal. Damn. I think I
think you might be looking at this wrong. Were you
born blind?

Speaker 11 (07:45):
Look at you?

Speaker 5 (07:47):
You don't look at it when I was blind five
years ago? Okay, okay, so you're newly blind. You don't care? Damn?

Speaker 4 (07:53):
How'd you get blind?

Speaker 6 (07:54):
Sir?

Speaker 10 (07:55):
So funk has got my system and they attacked my
optic nerves.

Speaker 4 (07:59):
Damn?

Speaker 5 (07:59):
Sorry?

Speaker 6 (08:00):
Brother?

Speaker 5 (08:00):
Have you have you learned any new skills? Have anything?
Have anything else? Scrimpened a little bit, but not that
too much? Got you?

Speaker 6 (08:08):
Got you?

Speaker 5 (08:09):
How can we help you this morning? Brother? What can
we do for you? Whatever? We'll see what we can do.
Whatever it is, but.

Speaker 10 (08:19):
A book?

Speaker 13 (08:19):
I get a book deal?

Speaker 11 (08:20):
Man work for you?

Speaker 5 (08:22):
You want a book deal? I'm be honest with you.

Speaker 1 (08:25):
I'm interested in the story. I can't say they and
act like I wouldn't want to hear more of the story.

Speaker 5 (08:29):
What if he's talking about brailbooks? You want to write.

Speaker 1 (08:35):
This morning and get get my guys information. I'm interested
in hearing the story. I want to see if it
might be a story there.

Speaker 5 (08:41):
You never know?

Speaker 4 (08:42):
Yeah, hold on, tom, okay, all right, hold on time,
Get it off your chest.

Speaker 3 (08:47):
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Speaker 4 (08:52):
Good morning, the Breakfast Club.

Speaker 3 (08:56):
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We are the Breakfast Club along the Rose feeling and for.

Speaker 4 (09:03):
Jess, we got a special guest in the building. Gentlemen,
she's back, Miss Teslin figure O. Welcome back.

Speaker 2 (09:08):
Hell, Hell, hell, let's good morning, good morning, good morning.

Speaker 4 (09:14):
How are you feeling this?

Speaker 2 (09:15):
I'm feeling good.

Speaker 15 (09:16):
I am I'm really feeling good. It's good to be
back back with family. Chopped up, which y'all dropped some dimes,
named some names.

Speaker 5 (09:22):
Okay, yeah, here to get we're dropping dimes on test, dropping.

Speaker 2 (09:25):
Dimes on everybody from top to bottom.

Speaker 4 (09:27):
Let's start right off with the president presidential election. Why
did V P. Harris lose?

Speaker 2 (09:33):
Oh man, I should have rolled my white board that
many yeah, that many yeah.

Speaker 15 (09:37):
And and the reason why it's important, I literally have
my stuff in order because a lot of people V said,
you know, she lost because of this. Reason she lost
because of that. And it's really in the Midwest. The
tornado requires water, humidity, when you know multiple things.

Speaker 5 (09:52):
Reason it's not one reason.

Speaker 15 (09:53):
And when I hear people saying, you know, if he
just did better with the messaging, Oh, if they did
better with the media. I've really kind of put together
a list of flow chart on how basically a colossal stuff.

Speaker 2 (10:05):
From top to bottom. You yeah, we're doing, we're doing
to pull out top seat.

Speaker 15 (10:09):
So if we just really take it from the top,
as we all said, Joe Biden should have never ran.
We have to first, you know, start there. Should have
never ran. He said it was the one time it
was gonna be a one term president. We talked about
it multiple times. He actually volunteered that life to say, hey,
I'm only going to run one term. I'm coming in
just to stop Trump immediately. Then they should have started
building a base immediately right out the gate. Trump was

(10:31):
still campaigning this entire time.

Speaker 2 (10:33):
We talked about it.

Speaker 15 (10:34):
We talked about how it was constant rallies, constant organizing.
You and I talked about it on the Van Jones Show.
We're saying, you guys really have to continue the organizing
year round. And that's why I blame a lot of
the people at the top who have the ear of
the you know, of the candidates and campaign consultants because
they've been told this multiple multiple times. So we should
have found a white man right then and there who
was going to be next in line to build a

(10:55):
white man white man, absolutely young white man, right then
and there. And it's not good to do some by
the way, lot of people keep saying that govern Neuson
will get swamped.

Speaker 4 (11:02):
So you didn't think Kamala was gonna win you no
right at the game?

Speaker 15 (11:05):
No, no, no, because he's a black woman, or yeah, absolutely,
so that's number three. So let's first get that. So
they should have establish a bitch saying didn't do that?
Governor knew somebody just want to put that out there.
A lot of people like him, great debate, and pe
would have got swamped. You have to remember he literally
passed to be O K through twelve to have shared
bathroom to a gender. So imagine what consernatives would have
deal with that all over the nation, the homelessness and

(11:26):
all of that. So then, yes, number three, America was
not going to vote for a woman of color period.
And no, in the history of black women and white women,
alliship A leeged Allyship, I have never known a white
woman to give a job to a woman of color
before they got it. That includes even McDonald's on fries
just not gonna happen. Have you ever if a white
woman ever said, you know what, I think you're more qualified,

(11:47):
can go ahead and take it.

Speaker 2 (11:48):
They didn't give it to Hillary Clinton. They were not
going to give it to her. I know there was hope.

Speaker 15 (11:52):
I know you talked about, you know, believing in us,
but it was never about us believing in us. It
was about us knowing them. It's not about being qualified.
This was when it came down to saying, they didn't
give it to Hillary Clinton, why would they give it
to Harris? So that was to me an era right
out the gate. But we had no choice because.

Speaker 5 (12:08):
Biden, I think Kamalo as a black woman is the
only reader.

Speaker 1 (12:12):
Well, first of all, two things the last two elections,
the the Democratic Party need to be thinking black women,
right because if it wasn't for Jim Clydburn telling Joe Biden, hey,
I'm not endorsing you unless you promise that you're gonna
put a black woman on the Supreme Court, I'm not
endorsing you. So that's what made him endorse Joe Biden.
He went south Caroline and changes the complexion of his campaign.
If it wasn't for Kamala Harris in twenty twenty, I
think a lot of us wouldn't have went out there

(12:33):
and voted for President Biden.

Speaker 5 (12:34):
I didn't vote for President Biden. I voted Vice presid
Kamala Harss. I also think in.

Speaker 1 (12:37):
Twenty twenty four, when you look at the fact that
Joe Biden's presidency was dead, like completely dead in the water,
and Kamala Harris came to the top of the ticket,
raised all of this money, ended up having the second
most votes of any Democratic nomineee ever with seventy four
million votes.

Speaker 5 (12:53):
I think that only happens because she's a black woman.

Speaker 15 (12:55):
Well, two things can be true at the same time.
There can be some positives they came with that, but
they're also be some negatives. Where we look at the data,
we don't have to guess. We looked at where white
women aligned, we looked at where the Latino community aligned.

Speaker 2 (13:06):
We looked at the bottom line data.

Speaker 5 (13:08):
This show Latino men. That was a surprise.

Speaker 2 (13:11):
Yeah, why was it a surprise?

Speaker 10 (13:12):
No?

Speaker 2 (13:13):
No, Latinos have always fifty fifty.

Speaker 15 (13:16):
They've always When you look at one, you know, I
organized for the Bernie Sanders campaign in Michigan. I was
only black woman on the ground in twenty fifteen to
helped flift that state. Latino community has always been divided.
When you look at Florida and you look at the
Cuban community, they've always went conservative. When you look at
the Bernie Sanders the left side the California, they always
go left. They have always strategiced, and I ain't mad
about it. They've always strategically been able to have leverage

(13:37):
because they go fifty to fifty.

Speaker 2 (13:38):
You remember when Joe Biden told black leaders when he
won it.

Speaker 5 (13:41):
Right after he.

Speaker 15 (13:42):
Said, yeah, right, and you said, I owe you black people.
Remember when they had the meeting and they leaked the
tapes in front of the Al Sharpton and all of
them and say, y'all need to go follow Latino community
because they're the ones that have the leverage. So I'm
not mad at it, but we need to talk about
it for what it is. There might be a black
and brown coalition in New York. You know, I've talked
about that all the time.

Speaker 2 (13:59):
Set that changed.

Speaker 15 (14:00):
They're moving over when you talk about the South, when
you talk about the Midwest and particularly when you talk
about the West, there is no black brown coalition and
it's okay for people to vote their interests.

Speaker 2 (14:12):
Also, got news for you, black men are conservative. Doing
my Joe Biden whisper.

Speaker 15 (14:16):
Black people are conservative. I don't know why people want
to keep, you know, making that not an issue. So
when you're talking about black men and you're talking about
other black people with the majority of the country and
the South majority of moderate I know progressives want to
sell a different story, but black people, for the most
part of martyrn a lot of them lean conservative. We're
gonna get into that when we get into the messaging,
but let's just kind of go back a little bit.
I agreed that there was some positives to it, but

(14:37):
when it came down to it, when we looked at race,
white women, to me, just like they did in the midterm,
just like they did when they were with Obama. Then
they went with Trump, and then they went back to
Democrats in the midterms, and then they flipped back. When
you're talking about white supremacy and talking about positioning like
what they did with the women suffrage movement, I just
didn't see them doing it for a black women over them.
They didn't do it with Hillary Clinton. The only person

(14:59):
that ever beat Donald Trump is Joe Biden, and I.

Speaker 5 (15:02):
Agree, but white women voted for Trump over Biden right to.

Speaker 15 (15:07):
Align with white supremacy, to align because this is about
white supremacy. This is about would they rather have their
household ahead of you as as a black man. That's
exactly something's wrong and people need to stop these pundits
get on another they went against their own interest.

Speaker 2 (15:21):
No, their interest is their household. Your interest is your interest.
My interest is my interest.

Speaker 15 (15:25):
When I keep hearing people say that they went against
their own interests, no, they've actually aligned with their interest,
which is white man, white woman, black man.

Speaker 2 (15:33):
Black woman. That's the order.

Speaker 4 (15:35):
That's how it is.

Speaker 15 (15:35):
Black people on the side, check bottom line. We need
to just accept that. I know we want to say BlackGirl.
Imagine everyone say oh because black this and that black
women can't save this country.

Speaker 2 (15:42):
We need to stop selling that dream.

Speaker 15 (15:44):
Let's get in position and understand what we can do,
which is why I was talking about the local and
state level. And stop trying to sell this timeshare scam
because to me, it was a timeshair scam. I agree
with you that there was really no other choice because
Joe Biden was trash.

Speaker 2 (15:55):
We get that he was trash.

Speaker 15 (15:56):
So once they said, okay, let's rally around Harris. Now
she's a Democrat nominee.

Speaker 2 (16:01):
Okay, so cool.

Speaker 6 (16:01):
We're with that.

Speaker 15 (16:02):
Black women raise thirty million dollars after Gate, Black men
raise thirty million out of gate. So now we're having
to deal with who dropped this bag? Who dropped this
billion dollar bag? And that's the issue where we get
into how they spent the money. I didn't think she
had a chance in hell. But once you decided to
move forward, okay, so what do we do with the money?

Speaker 2 (16:19):
Black voters? They lost Black voters across the board.

Speaker 15 (16:22):
That one two across the board makes a difference when
you're talk about Michigan, makes a difference in North Carolina.
So that's where we get into your concern where you
talk about messaging, where the messaging was all wrong.

Speaker 3 (16:32):
All right, we got more with Teslin. Figure out when
we come back, don't move. It's the breakfast club. Good morning,
the breakfast club.

Speaker 5 (16:41):
For everybody.

Speaker 4 (16:42):
We are the breakfast club. We're still kicking it with Teslin'
figaro Lauren.

Speaker 16 (16:46):
So what you think about Trump's cabinet and I guess
his choices for his cabinet right now, because I mean,
these are the people that are be gonna have to be.

Speaker 2 (16:52):
Yeah, I don't think nothing.

Speaker 15 (16:53):
I think Republican's ran Democrats rant is going to be
a dictator. Guess what they want a dictator. We've been
saying this forever.

Speaker 2 (16:59):
We've been talking about this.

Speaker 15 (17:01):
Day of bipartisanship, and let's just get it through Congress,
we said Charlamane know I said it a many times,
like with the George Floyd to Act reducing college debt,
do an executive order.

Speaker 2 (17:10):
Everybody said, you can't do executi order. You gotta go
through Congress. Republicans are gonna change it back.

Speaker 15 (17:14):
If you get in, they're gonna change it back. Guess
what Republicans don't give damn about changing the back. They
changed back ro VERSU what about changing back a whole
bunch of Obamacare and everything else. Democrats refuse to work
as a dictator. They want a dictator. Everybody's saying, oh, man,
he's gonna be a dictator, right, that's why they want.
Oh yes, he's gonna take migrants out. Yes, that's what
they wanted. People need stop saying that online is driving
me crazy. Oh latinos, oh man, oh man, y'all about

(17:36):
to see. They want the immigrant people who are legal.

Speaker 2 (17:39):
Who will come over to this country legal.

Speaker 15 (17:41):
They are literally telling you, yes, we don't support illegal immigration.
So people they're thinking, they saying something on social media,
y'all gonna see. No, they want a dictator. We Democrats
ran on democracy, They ran on dictators. Shall be a
dictator day one. That's exactly what they want. A dictator.
Somebody's gonna push the line somebody ain't gonna get damn back.
Will Arress is talking about somebody to say, I don't

(18:01):
I don't care what the rules are.

Speaker 2 (18:02):
I'm gonna do what I want to do. They want
a gangster period.

Speaker 5 (18:05):
Yeah I agree with that. I wouldn't say dictator, but
they want somebody that don't give up.

Speaker 2 (18:09):
Well, he said he was gonna be dictator on day.

Speaker 5 (18:10):
He said that on day one.

Speaker 1 (18:11):
But I think what people mean when they say they
just want somebody that's gonna say, you know what, as
long as things are getting.

Speaker 5 (18:17):
Done for the people, I don't care how it gets done.

Speaker 1 (18:18):
Like John Stewart did a great monologue and he was
just like Democrats always follow the norms, and Republicans don't
follow the norms, they gonna find those loopholes to break,
which is.

Speaker 2 (18:28):
Kind of like dictatorship. Though he said he gonna do
what he want to do.

Speaker 4 (18:32):
That's what damn what you'll tka play politically.

Speaker 15 (18:35):
You ain't gonna pay presus So I mean that's saying
I'm gonna do this, and if you don't do it,
it's gonna be hell to pay. If you don't do it,
you know, I'm gonna make sure you don't win. If
you don't do it, I'm gonna call you out. We
talked about this with Joe Manchin. They let they set
up now Joe Manchin sing this to a Republican. We've
been talking about this. This has been going on for
the last fifteen years. This loss was not just what
happened in the last one hundred days. This has been

(18:55):
at least from my experience two thousand and seven. I
can name year over year over year on what's what happened,
on how we got And then another thing I want
to bring up on this messaging abortion. Democrats ran on
reproductive rights and democracy fail right out the gate. You
had states like Arizona and Nevada that had abortion on
the ballot. So Democrats mindset is, let's put abortion on
the ballot and that's going to bring you know, people,

(19:15):
so people know get out to vote. Gotv that's how
you get out the vote. Oh, they're going to go
to the polls now that abortion's on the ballot. Well,
what you did, meet ballhead, You actually allowed Republican women
who were pro choice to actually vote for abortion and
still vote for Trump. There's no rule that says if
you support pro choice that you won't vote for Trump.
So Republican women in Nevada and Arizona literally had the

(19:39):
opportunity to bring abortion back and still vote for Trump.
So Democrats shopped themselves even in the foot if you
were expecting women to go vote for reproductive rights because
you gave them an out.

Speaker 2 (19:49):
So the messaging was wrong out the gate.

Speaker 15 (19:51):
We talked about that not running on the economy, not
running But I still think though even if you should
have ran on all of those things, they still gonna
vote for. They still would have rather voted for Joe
By and have dead Weekend at Bernie's. You know, they
didn't even win Scranton. They didn't win Scranton. Joe at
least won Scranton, Harris lost Scringt.

Speaker 5 (20:11):
I think Joe would have got like sixty five million.

Speaker 16 (20:14):
Said, okay, so if if what you're saying is true,
what was all because I felt how you how you
feel now, it's how I felt in the beginning, and
then when I saw the excitement and the money moving
and all that, Yeah, what was all of that?

Speaker 5 (20:25):
Then?

Speaker 2 (20:28):
I don't think.

Speaker 5 (20:32):
Anything. We're not giving you no more money.

Speaker 15 (20:33):
Joe have no choice, that's right. Yeah, So let's be
clear they did not have a choice because George. Yeah,
they said they didn't have no choice. So two things
to be true. At the same time, they had to
put Harris in no doubt about that. I'm not disagreeing
with that, but I still don't think they would have
voted us.

Speaker 2 (20:47):
They just would.

Speaker 15 (20:48):
They're just not going to give something that they didn't give. First,
did she do the best that she could? Yes?

Speaker 2 (20:52):
Did she do everything they told her to do? Yes?
Did she have one hundred days to do it?

Speaker 10 (20:55):
Yes?

Speaker 15 (20:55):
This is not about on her. This is about setting
up a woman to fail in one hundred days to
do the damn near impossible. I think Joe Biden should
have took that l he's the one that said, you
know he was gonna run. He's the one that's set
up there the entire time. Let him take the l
would you advise it to run against because it's again,
we gotta stop with I don't know what this obsession
we got with federal Let him have it. Let's talk about,

(21:18):
especially republics now saying give it to the state if
you really want to make real change in your community.
I know it's not as sexy. I know it's not
as exciting, but it really is at the state level.
It really is at the local level.

Speaker 5 (21:29):
If you believe in you.

Speaker 15 (21:30):
Want to fund the public schools, you can do at
a local level. And you say, you know what I
want charter schools. I want to be able to educate
our own You can do that at the local level.
Why are we so infatuated with this White House. I
don't don't, I don't get it. Why not be an
Atlanta council with sixteen other people in Orlando, with six
other people, be able to say I'm gonna write a
check to the Black Business Investment Fund, you know, to
be able to say, hey, here's some money to go
start a business. You can pass reparations at the local level.

(21:53):
So I don't understand this obsession that we have with
this federal thing. And I'm gonna be honest with you, Lauren.
Black women a lot of time times we get caught
up and it's wanting to be validated so damn bad.
So when the excitement was there, when everybody's like, oh man,
we can do this, we can do this. Black girl,
manage we do this, we can do this. Do this
validation of needing to be affirmed, need to say you
are qualified enough, you are good enough.

Speaker 2 (22:13):
A lot of that played into it. A lot of
that played into it.

Speaker 15 (22:16):
But let's not forget three thousand black women did a
petition and said, Joe Biden, keep your ass in. They
ignored that and went with the money. To charlet Mane's point,
they didn't have a choice.

Speaker 5 (22:25):
I agree with you, especially about the state thing.

Speaker 1 (22:27):
You know, there's something else Trump said that man landed,
and I was I'm still trying to figure out how
did he land this because it's so hard to get
people to focus on this the abortion thing, right, He
told them I wanted to be in the hands of
the state. So whenever you would have conversations with people about,
you know, abortions on the ballot.

Speaker 5 (22:41):
They'd be like, no, Trump just wants it to be
in the hands of the state.

Speaker 1 (22:44):
I've never seen a politician convince people on a national
level it's going to be local and that's fine, and
they buy into it.

Speaker 2 (22:50):
Well, Trump can get anybody to buy in anything he say.
I mean, he's a total man.

Speaker 15 (22:55):
Press have never been equipped to run against Trump. Let's
just name it, you know, let's just say they've never
been equipped run against them. He's too petty, he goes
too low, he don't give a damn what y'all talking
about the entertainer first, and so they've never been equipped
to go against this man.

Speaker 17 (23:09):
Never.

Speaker 15 (23:10):
But to your point, Charlemagne, for those who understand the states'
rights and when you go back to Reagan, the reason
why black people are against SET is because what it
does is it disenfranchise us. Even more so if you're saying, Okay,
in Oklahoma, you can't get access to health care, but
you can get access to health care in California.

Speaker 2 (23:27):
Very liberal.

Speaker 15 (23:28):
These are folks that can't just pick up, you know,
and go to California to get what they need, don't
have the money, so it affects poor people in a
very bad way. The States rights, but conservatives they like
states give it to the states their mindset.

Speaker 2 (23:39):
If you don't like it, move somewhere else.

Speaker 15 (23:41):
But none of us had not enough of us have
the resources to just move, you know, somewhere else, to
just move where things you know may be favorable to you.
So as black voters were always trying to carry the
lease of these and everybody else and think about everybody else.
But the reality is, Charlotmage, people are only looking out
what's in front of their doorstep. Remember when governors us
the Santis reduced the gas when they was talking about

(24:02):
you can't do nothing about the gas when gas was
so high, he said, oh no, I can do something
about it. This is why I talk about stay. So
when people remember that, even though there's more liberal, more
Democrat voters in Florida, people remember what affected their pocket
and that Republican governor made a difference. Kemp and Georgia
made a difference was passing out Kemp cards. He did
the same thing Trump did when he signed his name.
He gave them Kemp cards.

Speaker 2 (24:21):
People remember that.

Speaker 15 (24:22):
So even if they don't like Republicans, even they don't
like Trump. When you're looking at how that affects your
money daily, it makes a difference. And that's where they
lost as far as really trying to understand, you know,
the economic conversation, especially with black people.

Speaker 5 (24:33):
That's right.

Speaker 4 (24:33):
Thank you, appreciate you for joining us.

Speaker 17 (24:35):
Thank you.

Speaker 2 (24:35):
Let me go through my list.

Speaker 4 (24:36):
Yeah, I saw goodness doesn't figure out it's the breakfast club.

Speaker 5 (24:38):
Good morning.

Speaker 7 (24:45):
Let's say if you'all talking about it, you know we
talking to it's topic times called eight hundred five eighty
five one oh five one to join into the discussion
with the breakfast.

Speaker 3 (24:56):
Club Morning everybody in stj nvjes Hell Iris Chelamaine, the God,
we are the breakfast club.

Speaker 4 (25:02):
Now you're just joining us.

Speaker 13 (25:03):
Uh.

Speaker 4 (25:04):
This was trending yesterday.

Speaker 3 (25:05):
It was a post that said the new generation of
women don't ever cook breakfast because they don't wake up
until three. That's what this conversation is coming from eight
hundred five A five one oh five one, and we're
asking why do a lot of women don't like to cook?

Speaker 4 (25:18):
That's crazy.

Speaker 15 (25:18):
Waking up at three is a crime, that's right. You
on drugs, you ain't busted sleep and this three on drugs.

Speaker 5 (25:23):
You definitely. Are you sleep at t three o'clock after
you on dope? But what I was doing drugs?

Speaker 4 (25:27):
I don't care.

Speaker 15 (25:28):
I was still working up at like a lovern, not
three o'clock, you know, because sometimes drugs do you make
you a little tige?

Speaker 1 (25:33):
Depends what kind of drug though, Now we ain't no
drug yes, okay, I'm talking about drugs like dope, hard drugs.

Speaker 5 (25:40):
Yes, Oh okay, okay, okay, I feel you.

Speaker 6 (25:42):
I ain't.

Speaker 5 (25:43):
I don't know what that's like.

Speaker 4 (25:46):
So we're asking eight hundred five A five one oh
five one, what are your thoughts?

Speaker 6 (25:49):
What do you think about that?

Speaker 4 (25:50):
I think it's crazy, I do.

Speaker 15 (25:52):
I do agree that a lot more women feel that way.
I mean they have taken approach like, Okay, I don't
have to cook. I'm so caught up in my career
and work and everything, and I don't want a man
to get in the wrong mindset about me, like I'm
not a homemaker. But baby, you literally can cook. How
would you cook? How would you eat if you didn't
have a man?

Speaker 11 (26:10):
You know?

Speaker 4 (26:10):
Would you just go out every night?

Speaker 6 (26:12):
You know?

Speaker 15 (26:12):
Because I started off with me cooking for myself, and
then I had a shout cook for him.

Speaker 5 (26:17):
I don't care.

Speaker 4 (26:18):
Every man that I've had I've cooked for.

Speaker 15 (26:19):
It's something that I like to do. Cooking is very therapeutic.
And then it's the way that I take care of myself.
It's like a survival thing. I see my mother do it,
I'm gonna do it. I don't understand why it's like that.

Speaker 1 (26:29):
Yeah, I don't know any women who don't cook. All
the women that are in my life cook Now. Are
some of those women over forty, yeah, you know, but
I know them in their thirty two and they enjoy cooking.

Speaker 5 (26:42):
So I don't know who these women already speak of.

Speaker 15 (26:44):
And then food is made with love, and be like
it's made with love, so you can appreciate a home
cooked meal made by a woman, you know what I'm saying,
more than you can in an end at a restaurant
in you know.

Speaker 3 (26:58):
So I wouldn't say this, you know. Charlamonne always jokes
that we were born in the nineteen hundreds. When me
and my wife first started, you know, dating, and when
we first got married, we can only order out two things.
You can only get pizza in Chinese food. Those are
the only two things that would deliver. So we had
to cook. She cooked every night.

Speaker 5 (27:12):
That was the thing for New York.

Speaker 1 (27:14):
Yeah, I'm saying my wife. My wife always cooked too.
I mean my wife's dad, you know, one of his
side hustles. He's a caterer, so she always knew how
to cook. She was always you know, in the kitchen.

Speaker 5 (27:24):
That's her thing. We've been together twenty six years. I
usually do that breakfast cooked.

Speaker 4 (27:28):
Yeah, I usually do the breakfast. My wife does the dinner'
That's how it.

Speaker 5 (27:31):
That's what Chris does.

Speaker 15 (27:32):
He cooks breakfast because I think that's probably the only
thing he can cook. And he but he takes that
on all the time. He'll make breakfast, I make lunch,
I make dinner. That's why I love to see like
Ari Fletcher, money Bagger, your's girlfriend, she cooked well, wife,
she cooks. I love to see young girls cook, like
when they get it in the kitchen. I'm like, okay, girl, yes,
because you can still be fly business woman, you know,

(27:54):
and still cook meals and it looks good.

Speaker 1 (27:56):
You think it's a regional thing. You think, like you know,
more women that's like down south towards the southern regions.
That's what that's what that's what they do.

Speaker 5 (28:03):
I think so yeah. I don't know.

Speaker 4 (28:06):
I think so yeah, and I think so.

Speaker 3 (28:08):
I think a lot of the reason why is one,
I think the food tastes better in the South, and
I think up here there's so many options. It's like, yeah,
no Live Bo, Dagger and fast food spots in every corner,
so much.

Speaker 15 (28:18):
Food around here where you can just get all over
New York, Like so you can never ever be hungry
in New York.

Speaker 5 (28:23):
But it ain't great. Yeah, it's cool, ain't great food.

Speaker 4 (28:29):
But we got Jasmine on the line. Jasmine, good morning.
What's your thoughts.

Speaker 10 (28:34):
Yeah, I feel like there's too much being put on
women the days fact then women staying home with their kids.

Speaker 9 (28:39):
Like now times have like we're.

Speaker 11 (28:41):
Working, we have businesses. We're also taking care of the household,
like we're just doing a lot more. I feel like,
as long as we're making dinner, like I make dinner.
I was like, as long as I make dinner, that's fine.
I don't want to hear no complaints about breakfast.

Speaker 4 (28:53):
I get it, I get it.

Speaker 15 (28:55):
Thank you, Jazmine say that y'all have no complaints about.

Speaker 3 (28:59):
Break Angie on the line, Angie, good morning, morning, Detroit.
What's your thoughts.

Speaker 11 (29:05):
Yeah, yeah, the tripa Houston all day. So my thoughts
on this topic. So I'm a mom and I'm a wife,
and I also work. I enjoy cooking. I just think
that now in the current state and the current economic situation,
moms is working forty hours a week. So even if
we do like to cook, and I can teak to

(29:26):
my own, it's like I'm at work right now. I'm
here at seven, I get off at six, and then
the expectations be to cook the inner every single day.
That's a lot. That's a lot. And sometimes men don't
really understand that my husband.

Speaker 12 (29:38):
Does because he switch it up.

Speaker 11 (29:39):
But to go to work all day long and then
come home and then cook and go grocery shopping, it's exhausted.

Speaker 1 (29:45):
I think you're making a lot of sense, but but
I don't know, because I don't know about your mom.

Speaker 4 (29:50):
My mom used to cook every night. My mom works
nine to five.

Speaker 3 (29:53):
She'd be home getting already by six thirty seven o'clock
every night, and it was like no choice.

Speaker 2 (29:58):
I used to do it's my mother did it too.

Speaker 11 (30:02):
My mother did too because my dad works afternoons. And
to this day I called my mom and now say
I don't know how she did it, and I'm very
thankful that was a different breed of person. But also
my mom didn't have to work. It wasn't required for
her to have to bring in money. Nowadays, it's a
lot of fifty fifty men that want you to bring
in half.

Speaker 4 (30:22):
My mama worked.

Speaker 5 (30:22):
My mom worked.

Speaker 4 (30:27):
That If I go to my mom house right now,
I don't care what my mom's doing. She was stopping
cook That's exactly She's gonna stop and cook me a meal.

Speaker 5 (30:34):
You know, we should ask our parents. I bet she's
a question you never asked.

Speaker 6 (30:37):
What's that?

Speaker 1 (30:37):
If you have a mom who worked forty hours a
week and came home and kept food on the table,
what areas did she have to sacrifice in? Because there
had to be some There had to be some areas
she had to sacrifice in the relationship between her and
your dad.

Speaker 5 (30:52):
In order to be able to do that, there had
to be something.

Speaker 3 (30:54):
Well, you know, my mama. I don't know about yours,
but my mom had no life like there was no
outside life like. She didn't go out well, she always
was home with you.

Speaker 5 (31:03):
Really don't know how to speak. My mom ain't had
no life.

Speaker 4 (31:08):
Outside of our family, like my Ei. I know Robin
is probably excuse me outside she didn't. It was always
about her family.

Speaker 1 (31:19):
And those are questions that I think that we should
all ask our parents, because a lot of us don't
know our parents before they were our parents, and you
don't know the sacrifices they probably made to be your parents,
to be somebody's wife, to be somebody's husband.

Speaker 5 (31:33):
We don't ever have those conversations with our parents.

Speaker 1 (31:35):
I think we should give you a better understanding of
what they went through and what we're currently going through.

Speaker 4 (31:39):
Now, that's right, all right, This is the breakfast level morning.

Speaker 5 (31:43):
The Breakfast Club.

Speaker 3 (31:47):
Everybody is dj en V just hilarious, charlamage the God.
We are the breakfast Club. Justice on maternity leave so long.
LaRosa is filling in, and we.

Speaker 4 (31:55):
Got some special guests joining us back in the building. Indeed,
the brother John O'Brien, he's back, welcome by hot to
be here. And also a rod Alex roder megue.

Speaker 5 (32:03):
Is welcome, great to be here. A lot of money,
a lot of intelligence between y'all two. How did this happen?
This connection?

Speaker 6 (32:09):
Well, whatever you try to make smart sexy, you know
thet tracks, you know like attracts like you know on mindset,
you know this is all of us are up from nothing.
By the way, all of this story is the same
thing that you can go from the bottom to the
top legally, ethically, honestly, pay your taxes, do your stuff,
go from cashing a check to writing a check. So

(32:30):
Alex's story and mine are very similar. Like we had
very strong mothers who are great influences our lives. We're
both extremely nosy Quincy Jones, how'd you get so smart?
I'm just nosy as hell. I want to know everything
about everything. And when he got his first check in baseball,
he went to ask magic like, Okay, how do I
turn this from a check? Because of wealth and so
we start talking to the folks on the front row

(32:52):
at the games where business people, and he would trade
his influence for lunch. I'll go to lunch with you.
I just need to ask a bunch of questions. That's
what have used to do. And it was just brilliant
because he gained a business acumen from that, got it
basically the NBA while he's playing baseball. Use that to
then buy some real estate and then buy some more.
I think you worked the first piece of real estate yourself.

Speaker 17 (33:12):
Did, Yeah, duplex, duplex for two hundred and fifty thousand.

Speaker 6 (33:16):
So we did a financial literacy episode on money and wealth,
which you know something about us on the Black Effect Network.

Speaker 5 (33:21):
That's right, make sure you subscribed to that.

Speaker 6 (33:23):
Yeah, it's actually the episodes out this week. We did
this episode together on financial literacy because we both leave.
It's a civil rights issue of this generation. You know better,
you do better, and we're talking about black and brown wealth.
How do you how does black and brown create some
green at scale? It's a conversation that many folks don't have.
Most athletes go broke. Seventy percent, Wow, of all NBA
and NFL players bankrupt within five years of retirement and divorced.

(33:46):
So this brother just defying all the odds. He's cool,
he's a he's a humble dude. He wanted to meet you, guys.

Speaker 4 (33:52):
You've been a bit before, a bit before.

Speaker 6 (33:53):
Yeah, yeah, but he wanted to get into it. He
wanted to he want to show. Yeah, he wanted to
get into it, go to another level. And so it's
it's a beautiful family re reunion.

Speaker 4 (34:02):
But let's jump right into it.

Speaker 3 (34:03):
So you know what gave you the mindset to say
I want to learn more about investing and making sure
that I have wealth after retirement. Was it the fact
that you've seen so many athletes go bro Was it
the fact that you said, I'm never going back to
where I was, or what was it that said I
want to be different from seventy percent of those other athletes?

Speaker 17 (34:19):
I would say that I saw my mother work at
General Mortars for about twelve years. She will have the
early shift at three o'clock in the morning to two,
come home now for two hours, and then go serve
tables at night at midnight.

Speaker 5 (34:31):
And I saw this for.

Speaker 17 (34:32):
Years and years and years, and I think my life changed.
One day, We're at Publix, which is a supermarket down
in Miami. I was about twelve years old, and the
bill is about seventy five dollars, and I see her
grab some of her tip money and she got like
fifty six dollars or whatever. And I see that she's
missing like twenty twenty five bucks. And she goes into
another pocket or purse and grabs what I call funny money.

(34:52):
And I said, Mom, what is that funny money? It's
like red I've never seen money like that only monopoly,
and she kind of with shame in her face, looked
down and she goes, Son, the government is helping us
out a little bit this month, and it changed my life.
I mean I can feel it today, and I know
so many families out there have felt this. And that's
kind of where my ambitious grew.

Speaker 6 (35:10):
What we used to call food stamps. Yeah yeah, yeah,
food stamps, But I.

Speaker 17 (35:16):
Never seen it raining right, and I think she would
hide it for me. We were probably food stamps for years.
She just never disclosed that with me. And then, like
John said, I met with one of my heroes and
mentors and great friend now Magic Johnson, about thirty years
ago and he was going out to dinner with Cookie
and it was near at Labeldale Drive, I think Mastro
for something, and it was supposed to be a thirty

(35:36):
minute meeting. We met for three hours. He called cooking
and said I'm not coming home. And years later I said, Magic,
why'd you give me like three hours? And I left
with nine notes of papers I still have today. He said,
because you're one of the few athletes that came in
all business on time, that no phone, and you were
taking notes, so you were engaged, so I engaged with you.
So that's my message to the next generation. It's just

(35:57):
like the reason why I played baseball for so long
is the fundament. Whether it's Jordan or Tiger or Lebron
or Magic or Bird, whoever, it's fundamental in sports that
makes you great. The same thing as in business, you
got to know the rules of engagement, and our young folks,
while they're getting better, there's a lot of room for growth.
To understand the way that money works and the relationship
with money in financial literacy.

Speaker 1 (36:16):
So from day one, did you blow any money? Like
like when you first got your first big check, did
you blow any of it?

Speaker 17 (36:21):
I was fortunate that I played for almost twenty five years,
so I would say from age twenty to thirty, I
made a bunch of mistakes. And then when I realized,
like sports, when we won the championship with the Yankees
and O nine, we had a squad and we were
as solid as anyone. And in business, the same thing.
You got to create an incredible team that are way
smarter than you, that have complimentary set of skills, but
at the end of the day, ye're the quarterback of

(36:41):
that team. So then I put my lessons behind me.
It's been pretty good ever since.

Speaker 4 (36:46):
What was the dumbest thing you bought when you when
you first became and made all that money in Major
League Baseball?

Speaker 5 (36:50):
One from Miami, so bends and a rolex. If you're
from Miami, you need a rolex. And that's the growth.

Speaker 6 (37:00):
That So by the way, me, him and Don Peples
was going to show a few weeks ago the three
black men, I know, black and brown, same thing. We're
all the same family who have a couple hundred million
dollars in loan facility for real estate on as you know,
this non recourse basis, which means it's no personal guarantees.
That's credibility, and that's where we need to go. Like

(37:21):
you make money during the day, you build wealth in
your sleep, and too many of us hooked on that
W need that dollar and get that cash. When we
get that buck and we get that bag, it's useless.
It's called literally cash flow. And if your outflows at
your inflows and your overhead, it will be your downfall.
And if you don't understand financial literacy, somebody's gonna separate
you from your wallet. And this is just more Zero's
attached to it the first year. Every athlete spends everything

(37:43):
to get Yeah, every you know, it's just it's natural.
You know.

Speaker 4 (37:47):
Growing up in Queen's there was nobody around me making money.

Speaker 5 (37:50):
Right, We were all the same.

Speaker 4 (37:51):
We didn't know anything about financial literacy.

Speaker 5 (37:52):
Right.

Speaker 4 (37:53):
My son goes to University of Miami, calls me yesterday,
him and his friends about to buy a restaurant, which
is crazy because at twenty years old, I wasn't thinking
about that.

Speaker 3 (38:00):
But it's the mindset and the people that he's around.
So for people listening, and they might not have somebody
around him that is knowledgeable in business. They might not
have somebody around him that knows where to put money
or what to invest in on how to do it.
What do you tell those in people to say, Okay,
I don't have a magic to speak to you know
what I mean. I don't have a Rod to say
let me sit down with you. I don't have a
John to say this is what I have and what

(38:21):
I do. So what do you tell those indemdris.

Speaker 17 (38:23):
Ye, first, this is one includes John. The power of
proximity to greatness or proximity to intelligence is so powerful
in baseball. I wanted to be around Cay Ripken, Keith Hernandez,
Doc Goood and Strawberry because they had sets of skills
that I needed and I wanted. And great athletes can
copy and paste better than anyone in baseball. Skills in baseball.

Speaker 5 (38:43):
Now you go over.

Speaker 17 (38:43):
Now it's business and it's the same exact Droe. I
want to be around John Hope because every time I'm
around him, I get better. He inspires me, he gives
me more hope, He gives me no pun intended, he
gives my self esteem rises. Our community black and brown,
the number one issue is self esteem issue, and they
don't want to engage. They don't want to engage in
a business conversation because they don't want to be embarrassed.
That's Wor're some of the most prideful people in the world,

(39:05):
but we pay around on time. We're hardworking people. We
have tremndous heart and grit, but we don't want to
be embarrassed. That's why Shark Tank works so well. You
get an education, we'll get it entertainment, and the America
gets an NBA from Shark Tank. That's why people say
when I walk around, oh, there's a Shark Tank guy.

Speaker 6 (39:20):
I love.

Speaker 4 (39:22):
Is amazing, right, they learned so early.

Speaker 17 (39:24):
So your job as an American citizen, as a youngster,
right man, boy, whatever you are, is to be around
proximity of greatness. So if you find a great mentor
from age twenty to thirty, forget about the money. Twenty
to thirty, go work for John, Go do an internship
at a Rock Corp. Go work for Magic, pay nothing,
pay whatever you got, get a roommate. But twenty to
thirty is your extended education. And then once you get

(39:47):
into the thirties you open up that that black book.
How we say your your ladyships, right, because when you're
eighty five, right, you look back, your net worth is
going to resemble your network.

Speaker 5 (39:56):
Amen. Right, So start I had a mentor. Save.

Speaker 17 (39:58):
If you don't have a breakfast luntion dinner every single
day to talk about money, you're falling behind because your
competition's doing it all.

Speaker 1 (40:05):
Right, don't go anywhere when we come back. We got
more compensation with Alex Rodriguez than John Hope Briant. It's
the world's most dangerous morning show, the Breakfast Club. Yes,
it's the world's most dangerous morning show. To Breakfast Club,
we got Alex Rodriguez and.

Speaker 5 (40:15):
John Hope, Brian here this morning with us. Now, Alex,
who got you into the franchise game?

Speaker 1 (40:20):
Which, well, the rumor now is that you know y'all
got the cash ready the body Minnesota Timberwolves full owner shit.

Speaker 6 (40:27):
So just by the way, there's some things that he
can't talk about today, legal situation. He'll answer the question.
They can answer by the way. I loved by the
way they was like wish franchise he owned so much
like one. But there are some things he won't be
able to talk about today.

Speaker 17 (40:44):
Just high level, I mean, just kind of my passion
for sports. I think if you talk to most athletes
and you do a secret Paul, probably ninety percent of
more will tell you I would love to own part
of a team someday. Who doesn't want to convert from
player to owner? Right that that's the American way. We
took a long run at the Mets and we can't.
And second to Steve Cohen, thank god, because you're doing
a phenomenal job and we're having a great time with
the Timbules and the Links. Links almost won a championship

(41:06):
a couple of days ago, came up a little short
but very proud of our young women. Look, this is
the ultimate dream. To be in room with Adam Silver
and thirty other owners. It's pretty spectacular. And I look
at that and talk about imposter syndrome. You're seeing Mark Cuban,
you're seeing Jim Dolan, You're seeing Tony Wrestler. You're seeing
guys like Mark Lazerie, people that I've looked up and
admired and studied my whole kind of adult life. And

(41:28):
now you're in the room with them as colleagues. It's
really an incredible feat. Yeah, I've been dreaming about it,
probably for a long time and finally made the move.

Speaker 3 (41:35):
I just got to ask the sport questions. Since we're
on sports, how about them damn Yankees? Oh man, how
does it feel to see what is taking so long
to get back to? And what do you think about
the Yankees now? It seems like baseball is more exciting now.
I'm watching the games more. The games are a lot faster,
it's fast pacing. So is your what is your thoughts
on baseball now?

Speaker 9 (41:54):
Yeah?

Speaker 17 (41:54):
I'm so excited. This is baseball has needed this moment
for at least a decade. I'm so hired. Of people
saying baseball was born and old. Then look we went
through a little bit. They got born, but get Commissioner
Rob Manford and Tony Clark, the head of the Union
of the Players, and they came up with the clock
right and made it a lot better pace made the
bigger basis. Now they look like Domino's Pizza right right.

(42:15):
Base It is a game that's driven by markets and superstars,
in tradition and history, and this world series.

Speaker 5 (42:21):
Here has it all.

Speaker 17 (42:23):
This is two franchises that have the two richest franchises
in revenue, in star power global Yankee may be the
number one franchise in the world, Dodgers may be top five.
And I'm talking about ative sports, football, soccer, you name, yeah, yeah,
number one. The Yankees are in that top five, right
and when you look at the Yankees, conglomerate is well
worth over ten billion. When you look at the Dodgers,

(42:44):
well worth over ten billion. Okay, I would say there's
Otani and Judge as two biggest stars as you can have.
You're gonna have probably fifteen million people watching Japan, another
fifteen or twenty watching here. The fan basis, it's interesting
when you go to Dodger Stadium. There's three type of
fan bases. You have the corporate financial institutions and Hollywood.
You have the Mexicans that you know at last Fernando ven.

Speaker 5 (43:04):
As well, who died.

Speaker 17 (43:05):
He was a big pioneer in that movement. And then
the other third is now Japanese. They're printing money like
it is no one's business because of Otani and obviously
the success they've had with Mark Walters to Boldi. They
have an incredible ownerships, but they've had one championship in
thirty seven years. The Yankees have one championship in twenty
four years. So both franchise are going to be starving.

(43:25):
Tickets that too on today are going for forty thousand dollars.
Behind him played one ticket, so if you want to
that's eighty grand.

Speaker 5 (43:32):
Eighty grand. Beer is probably four thousand.

Speaker 17 (43:36):
So it's it's going to be the most watched World
Series since the Cubs, and you want you won right that?
The last one was nine so we haven't been there
in fifteen years, So bring the glory days back to
the Bronx.

Speaker 16 (43:46):
My question, don't I don't know much about the players.
It's not about the players. My question is about it's
back to the family stuff you were talking about. My
first thought was, so that moment with your mom changed
your thoughts on money and building money in family? How
do you keep now you got all these franchises and
all this stuff, how do you keep Like you take
care of a lot of people, but how do you
set your boundaries where it's like no, because you got

(44:08):
to keep the money.

Speaker 4 (44:09):
To make the money.

Speaker 16 (44:10):
But you also grew up watching so many people not
have Like what's that battle like for you? How do
you be like, no, I can't do that. That makes
no sense, right?

Speaker 6 (44:18):
Discipline.

Speaker 17 (44:18):
So, first of all, I'm almost fifty now, so I've
had a lot of learning experience. I would say when
I was in my twenties and thirties, that was a
lot more challenging, right, But now when you're running businesses,
you can give people opportunities where they can win. So
as an example, my sister does on my personal real estate.
So if I'm buying a house for you know, a dollar,
she's making you know three percent of that or six

(44:39):
percent of that, and my brother does.

Speaker 6 (44:40):
But they got to be to be competent.

Speaker 17 (44:44):
They know I don't play that game. You got to
be by the book. There's no nepotism. I'm a very
tough boss I would say that.

Speaker 5 (44:51):
But here are the.

Speaker 17 (44:52):
Rules, rules of engagement, and you played by them, you're
gonna get first bid. And if you perform, I'm going
to come back to you over and over again. If
you don't perform, I have no problem quickly pivoting. And
it's that personal. It's business. That's right now when my
mom calls.

Speaker 4 (45:07):
Whatever now for parents listening right now, When is a
good time to start getting your kids involved in financial literacy?

Speaker 6 (45:14):
When you start breathing? So when you start spending money,
I mean you spend money. Twenty four hours a day.
When you sleep, you're spending money. The government by the
alarm clock, you did that. The governments not paying for
your life bill, right, So check this out. We have
a kid's account in Atlanta public schools Operation Hope. By
the way, everybody can go get financial coaching scholarship from
the compans of the breakfast club. Call Operation Hope will

(45:36):
give you a thousand dollars free scholarship just because you
mentioned breakfast club to get coaching accounts and get your
credit card.

Speaker 10 (45:41):
Right.

Speaker 6 (45:42):
So we have it with Mayor Andrey Dickens in Atlanta.
We have a kid's account in kindergarten, fifty bucks in
the kids account. Now you may say, what's the big
deal of that. If you have a bank account at kindergarten,
you're fifty percent more likely to go to college. If
you have fifty dollars in that account in kindergarten, you're
seventy five sent more likely to graduate from college. Because

(46:02):
now you're connecting education with aspiration. The kid, the lights
on the kid's head. Now you're talking about stocks and
bonds and investment, and I mean don't and don't put
don't create an investment account, don't get a rod or
me or you DJ and be going and talking about cars,
you know, talking about because what there's technology these days, right,
talk about it. But through that it's investment.

Speaker 10 (46:20):
Now.

Speaker 6 (46:21):
Now, now these kids, you hooked them, right, So it's
about role modeling. It's about the language of money at
the earliest age. Because this is the aspiration generation. We
can literally build the next generation of America. We have to,
by the way, because we're going to be a majority
of minorities. Literally if we don't do that, as country
is done. But but we can do that at kindergarten.

Speaker 3 (46:41):
You know, the biggest thing that my son, who's nine,
The thing that I love is my son watches shot Tech.

Speaker 4 (46:47):
So he's nine, so he doesn't know you for baseball.

Speaker 3 (46:50):
He knows you from And like I was talking on
the phone, was talking to business and somebody, and he
started asking me questions that I know that he got
from someplace else.

Speaker 5 (46:58):
I said to the other day. He was at me, so, Dad, how.

Speaker 4 (47:01):
Much equity do you get in that deal? I'm like,
where are you getting that from?

Speaker 15 (47:04):
Whoa?

Speaker 4 (47:04):
And then he was like, well what about He was
like whoa? I said, well, where did you hear about equity?

Speaker 3 (47:08):
And he's selling me shark tank and he was like, yeah,
I want to know what royalty fees are and this
and the yether and now I was like, I just
want to play baseball. But you know, it was just
it was great that they have these type of shows
on and I know you got to go, I know
you a question.

Speaker 2 (47:19):
Yeah, I do have a question.

Speaker 16 (47:20):
So y'all are talking about your families and y'all kids,
and these two always talk about how when they locked
into their marriages, everything like flourish for them. You talk
about your baby girls a lot. Last time you were here,
you were talking engagement with j Low. I know you're
right now dating Jacqueline is engagement?

Speaker 5 (47:35):
Marriage?

Speaker 2 (47:36):
Is that a conversation for you right now?

Speaker 18 (47:37):
Like?

Speaker 16 (47:38):
How does that? Where does that fit in all this
business in the portfolios.

Speaker 17 (47:41):
Well, I'm very lucky to have an incredible person in
my life. Jack's Canadian. She's right outside of Detroit, which
is very beneficial because my daughter goes too in Michigan.
So you're two for the price of one cut in
a good deal. So she's twenty minutes from Detroit. She's
a former nurse. She's transitioned her nursing to an incredible

(48:02):
business called jack Fit, where she helps out you know,
a thousands of women online get a better life. I
personally lost thirty pounds because of her. I haven't really
thought about that. This is really the best place I've
been in my life. I'm very fortunate, grate phot to
be where I am. I'm helping out tons of people involved,
like you said, with the Timbles and the Links and
doing my Fox deal with the Yankees and the Dodgers.

(48:24):
I'm open to anything, but right now, I'll let you
know if there's some big announcement coming maybe I come back.

Speaker 1 (48:29):
I would think it would be difficult for you to
trust anybody and really you know what I mean, like romantically,
just because you are a rod So the celebrity within
the money like it's hard.

Speaker 17 (48:38):
It's hard for sure, but you know, you take your time,
you try to surround yourself with people that are better
than you and but there's no questions.

Speaker 5 (48:44):
It's difficult, all right, we come back.

Speaker 1 (48:46):
We got more with Alex Rodriguez than John Hope brian
it's the world's most dangerous more to show breakfast Club. Yes,
it's the world's more dangerous more than show to breakfast Club.
We're here with Alex Rodriguez and John Hope Briant.

Speaker 3 (48:56):
Now, if you got a question, I was gonna ask
for somebody listening, maybe possibly thinking about buying their first property,
a first investment property, or even at first house law,
even refinancing at home.

Speaker 6 (49:06):
The average person listening to this, please listen to me.
As fast as you can buy a home. The number
one way you build was in America's home ownership, the
average African American we had forty one forty two, forty
three percent of us own a home compared to seventy
five percent of our white counterparts that thirty percent delta.
That difference is massive. Home ownership and prices are not
going down. When I started buying those seven hundred homes

(49:28):
from the Promise Homes Company, I ran it up to
one hundred and fifty million dollars of assets under management.
That partok the portfolio I bought for eighty eight thousand,
I sold them at three hundred and fifty thousand. No
one moved the house. It was no genius to it.
It's the magic of compounding.

Speaker 5 (49:42):
Either.

Speaker 6 (49:42):
They're not growing anymore land a lot. Most of the
places where we live are inner cities. What's an inner
city in France it's called Paris. What's an inner city
in Britain it's called the UK. Like we have centrally
located real estate and we're walking away from it to
rent from somebody we don't know. To spend money. We
don't have to impress people we don't know, to talk
about stuff that don't matter, like knock it off, buy

(50:02):
the worst house and the best block in the hood,
d a hyphen hod the hood adjacent, buy it near transportation, economy,
economic activity, activity, and a vibrant environment, buy it, rehabit,
live in it, use equity in a couple of years
later and buy I know you know what I'm talking
about here a DJMV by the second home three years later.
You do that three times over five to six years.

(50:24):
This is my mother's story. Worked in an hourly job.
You're a millionaire, and you can get the down payment
through the Earning them tax credit. Right, you can go
to Operation Hope to we can help you get quality
vibor EITC. If you're making thirty eight thousand dollars and
have three children, the government owes you about seven thousand
dollars cash. So you just gave everybody listening to this
who makes thirty eight thousand dollars a check and it's
retroactive for three years. If you've never filed, that's almost
twenty thousand dollars. There's your down payment right there, right,

(50:47):
so we can and to get your credit score up,
get your debt down, get your savings up, get into
that house because it costs just as much to rent
as it doesn't pay in mortgage payment. You're right, interest
rates to two percent not coming back, that's fine. Four percent,
five percent is just fine. That's still very very low,
but prices are not coming down. You're all gonna wait, no, no, no,
don't wait, it's gonna get worse, go get more expensive.

(51:08):
Buy right now.

Speaker 1 (51:10):
I want to ask you a question because I think
sometimes we have these conversations, and we have these conversations
from our perspectives. Right, Well, y'all in a different tax bracket.
But I'm just saying, everybody here, for the most part,
has money. What about people who have no money? People
from our communities who have zero dollars? How do the
poor even get to the middle class?

Speaker 5 (51:26):
I got you there. I mean, he's the master.

Speaker 17 (51:28):
But I'm just gonna give you like really simple, right,
Money is the easiest part to get. And I know
this sounds crazy to the folks listening. Right, money there's
over a trillion dollars sit in the sidelines looking for
great deals.

Speaker 5 (51:39):
So if you don't have money, can you find deal flow?
Can you hustle?

Speaker 17 (51:42):
If you find me an asset that costs ten million
dollars and you bring me, you bring it to me
for eight you basically own two million dollars of that
one hundred percent. So if you bring me a ten
million dollar deal, right, and I can buy it for eight.
You say, hey, give me a million dollars on that.
I'll give you because IM still getting a million dollar discount.
I'm paying nine for ten million dollar asset, so I'm
getting a discount. So looking for opportunities, understanding where the
trend is going, and you, as an entrepreneur, says, how

(52:04):
do I get in the way, so when that train
goes by, I can jump on and jump in that bandwagon.

Speaker 5 (52:09):
Right, it's creating opportunities if you find deals, you got money.
Is that possible for.

Speaker 6 (52:13):
Everyday people to yes, yes, yes, yes, you know you
can buy a You can open a fractional stock account
and put in twenty five dollars to buy some stock.
Now you spend that on Starbucks. You can do you
can do ten ducks. You can do five bucks a
fractional stock on any stock that you want. So there's
no excuse if you want to get in this game.
Operation Hope will help you again. If you're listening to

(52:33):
the Breakfast Club, will give you a scholarship for coaching
and counseling. We're gonna get your credit score up. The
average credit scorer for black people, by the way, is
six twenty Latino's are a little above that notch more,
but that means half of us are locked out of
the free enterprise system. You can't get a decent home
loan at eating below seven hundred, can't get a decent
auto loan below at six point fifty. You can't get
a business loan at all unless you're seven hundred better

(52:55):
because it's risky credit. So we think the issue is
racism or discrimination. It might be, but it also might
be that you don't understand there's a game. There's a
credit box, and you're not in it. But you have
to have discipline, you have to live below your means,
you have to understand this game. You've got to be
financially literate, and everybody can be a winner at this game.
I'd love to come back at some point. We need

(53:16):
to talk about a whole this whole thing or relationship capital,
which you talked about a little bit, like behind all
of us is a backer, sure, a partner that we're
not talking about magic has it. I know who they are.
I love talking about Tony Wrestler and Micaregetty. Right, they
backed me eighty million dollars and I paid them back
plus seven percent.

Speaker 16 (53:34):
Right, it's important because our community feel like capitalists, you said,
talk about making smart sexy. They feel like that's a
bad thing. A lot of people, not everybody, but a
lot of people in our community feel like capitalism is
a horrible thing. Having people back you as a horrible
thing as well too.

Speaker 6 (53:46):
Yeah, so people say, let's go for and set further. Oh,
I hate rich people.

Speaker 5 (53:49):
No, you don't.

Speaker 6 (53:52):
You hate rich people to you become rich. What you
hate is a game system to your point, right, what
you hated. The system is rig so that you don't
think you can succeed. The money's not evil. It's the
love of money that's evil. It's the greed and bassiar.
Angel Jung says that men and women fail for three reasons, arrogance, pride,
and greed. What did Malcolm X say. We've been bamboozled,

(54:14):
We've been tricked, we've been full, We've been hoodwink We've
been hoodwinked on this topic, black people, we have never
had an economic infrastructure in the history of us being here.
That's our problem. Govern's not gonna save you. Even if
you want to distribute money like a socialist, you gotta
collect it like a capitalist. What's the entertainment business, the
business of entertainment, the sports business. It is the business

(54:36):
of sports. What we don't understand is the business. I'm
gonna give everybody here free game. There are about one
hundred trillion dollars about to co hit the market in
the next ten years. All these baby boomers are retiring
at the same time. They're gonna give their cash in
their stock to their kids. They're gonna give their house
to their family. Kids don't want the business. Those businesses
have cash flow, client lists, real estate, a brand. I'll

(54:59):
say a minute ago, bring me an asset for ten
million that I can get for eight million, and you
have the upside between eight and ten. So if you
come to me and say I have a startup idea,
give me a million dollars so I'm gonna get out
of here right. You come to me and say, I've
got a business that's got a million dollars of cash flow,
that's got an evaluation of ten million dollars? Will you
finance that? The acquisition in this example says ten million

(55:21):
dollars a revenue. Will you've some answer a nine million
dollar acquisition. The answer to that is absolutely yes. Non
recourse mean no personal guarantee. Wall Street does that all dea.
It's called private equity. So you got literally trillions of
dollars with businesses that are about to hit the market,
and people listening to this can go become capitalists right
now with an existing cash flow business, existing assets, existing employees.

(55:45):
They're not no risk, but low risk because it's already successful.
So we need to stop being self employment projects because
ninety six percent of all black businesses don't have an employee.
I don't know what the Latino numbers are, but you
but again, you bill wealth and your sleep is compounding.
This is a huge opportunity.

Speaker 17 (56:01):
So all of us here walking to opportunities every single day,
but it's taking your eyeballs and your brain and your
ears to think about opportunities when you hear them. So
you hear opportunities all the time. You know, poor guy
and a rich guy go through a bad neighborhood. The
poor guy goes, God, what a terrible neighborhood. I wouldn't
never want to live here. The rich guy goes, let's
try to see if we can buy all this stuff
on a cheap, because in ten years you're going to

(56:23):
be different. You go to a barber shop, and you
hear through a terrible divorce, and you hear this gossip
all the time, and you guys are here, Man, what
a terrible situation.

Speaker 5 (56:30):
I have to sell their house. I have a sell
the car.

Speaker 17 (56:32):
If you're an entrepreneur in the ear, you hear, oh,
that might be an opportunity. Well maybe I can not
to take advantage of anyone, but if you have to
sell your house quickly, maybe I can provide a quick
buy and sell for you off market, right person, And
there goes that seven million dollar deal for ten right.
So it's about rewiring of the brain and looking at
opportunities and not looking at problems, because problems is really opportunities.

Speaker 4 (56:52):
Well, ladies and gentlemen, thank you for joining us so much.
John O'Brien.

Speaker 1 (56:58):
Is happening December nineth to the eleventh in Atlanta, Georgia,
mass I'll be there all right.

Speaker 4 (57:02):
Well it's the Breakfast Club.

Speaker 5 (57:03):
Good morning, it's time for donkey as a kay. I
ain't trying to be donkey today no more. They should
be embarrassed by what they already did. I'm not making
these people do these days.

Speaker 2 (57:12):
Called donkey of the day, and it really caught me
off guard.

Speaker 5 (57:16):
Damn Charlamn who got.

Speaker 4 (57:18):
The donkey out of day today?

Speaker 1 (57:21):
Welless Hilarius, donkey today goes the twenty one No goes
to twenty year old twenty two zero twenty year old
Jelene White. Now he's twenty, so that means he was
born in two thousand and four. And he is confirming
my theory that after the year two thousand and the
universe just started making anybody. And I told you all
this because God sold the company that makes humans. He

(57:43):
sold it to some other higher power and they kept
the name. Okay, same model, but the ingredients just not
the same because these little youngins is different. See, Jalen
has an eight month old son, and the mother of
the child had to run out real quick, so she
left the baby with his daddy. Well, Jalen decided to
do what most men do when they watch their kids,
and that's play NBA two K.

Speaker 5 (58:05):
Well, I'm going to tell you right now this is
where a story gets dark.

Speaker 1 (58:08):
And since I don't like to be the bearer of
bad news, let's go to CBS News Chicago for the report.

Speaker 5 (58:12):
Please.

Speaker 19 (58:13):
A father in Milwaukee is charged after he admittaged to
throwing his nine month old son because he was frustrated
while playing a video game. Prosecutors say twenty year old
Jalen White was playing NBA two K. He was quote
down two points in the fourth quarter of the game.
Prosecutors say that's when he threw his eight month old
son against the wall. The criminal complaint states White told

(58:33):
detectives he heard his son's head hit the wall loudly.
Hospital staff discovered several injuries on the child, not all
of them from the wall incident.

Speaker 2 (58:42):
This appears not to be the first abuse of conduct
with his child, based on the fact that there are
multiple stages of healing and broken ribs.

Speaker 19 (58:53):
The baby has a dramatic brain injury and is not
expected to survive. If the child does die, prosecutors will
upgrade the charges against to homicide.

Speaker 1 (59:03):
Somebody tell Donald Trump to add jailing to the mass deportationless. Okay,
don't be fooled because his last name is White, He's not.
This man was losing by two points in NBA two
K and got so upset that he threw his baby
against the wall in anger. What happened to throwing your
controller against the wall? What happened is simply resetting the game.
What happened to instinctively loving your kids more than anything

(59:27):
else on this planet?

Speaker 5 (59:29):
This man, Jalen, told police and I quote, he hit.

Speaker 1 (59:33):
His head hard on the wall. Bro I heard the wall.
It was hard on his head. I heard the impact
of the wall after I tossed him. This man's eight
month old child is not expected to live because his
daddy was losing by two points in the fourth quarter
in NBA two K. The craziest part about this story
is Jaalen said, uh, he said he didn't. He didn't.

(59:54):
He didn't say he saw the baby hit the wall.
He said he heard the baby hit the wall. That
means he just lost the child without looking. Okay, he
tossed the baby away. He just tossed the baby the
way tyree'se tossed those tissues the last time he was handing.

Speaker 5 (01:00:07):
Breakfast Club studios, crying, I'm not doing this me neither. Okay.

Speaker 1 (01:00:12):
Out of all the things you could have grabbed and
threw at the wall out of anger, you tossed to
your child. And you're trying to tell me just the
same original recipe for humans God been using. No humans
are under new management, and God and Ben. Okay, God
don't have his hands on none of those new model humans.
You only hear humans of a certain age say God

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not done with me yet, because we are some of
the last models that God created that he still got
his hands on. Okay, therefore we can still go the
God Repair Service Center lifetime warranty. But the reality is
God is done with some of y'all. And in the
case of Julien White, God said, get somebody.

Speaker 5 (01:00:49):
Else to do it.

Speaker 1 (01:00:50):
I don't have nothing to do with that. I don't
have nothing to do with those humans boring after two thousand.
Okay that after two thousand human business.

Speaker 4 (01:00:57):
That's not me.

Speaker 5 (01:00:58):
I'm over here.

Speaker 1 (01:00:58):
I got my hands on the chain pansies, the dolphins,
the ravens. Have you noticed what I'm doing with the
orcars and the bees? They are the new intelligent life
and Ben, which is why the more you get to
know humans born after the year two thousand, you realize
why Noah only let animals on the arc. Now, Jailing
is being held on child abuse and child neglect charges,

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and you heard the news report. If the poor eight
month old child dies from his injuries, Jailing's charges are
expected to be updated to include murder, and he is
currently being held on one hundred thousand dollars bond. All
those in favor of keeping him there forever saying I
I okay, all right, I mean yes, although the Poles say.

Speaker 5 (01:01:42):
No, okay, please let Remy Mark give Jailing White the
biggest he huff.

Speaker 2 (01:01:47):
Hee ha he ha, you stupid motherfu are you dumb?

Speaker 5 (01:01:51):
That's sad man. Yeah, it is said it was crazy.
Won't be no two k where he going? It's prisy.

Speaker 15 (01:01:58):
He said that it was think the first time, like
the baby has other injuries that he's hailing. That's what
I'm and all that like, that's that's crazy.

Speaker 2 (01:02:06):
So why wouldn't the baby taking out of the kid before.

Speaker 5 (01:02:08):
That's why he deserves everything he was about to get.
If you get in prison, he get in prison. Okay.

Speaker 1 (01:02:14):
And it ain't like I said, it ain't no two
k where he going. It's all too gay now okay,
no control of just joysticks sticks.

Speaker 5 (01:02:25):
Well, thank you for that, donkey.

Speaker 4 (01:02:27):
Today the breakfast.

Speaker 3 (01:02:29):
Club, everybody, it's tj envy, just hilarious, charlamage the gud
we are the breakfast Club.

Speaker 4 (01:02:37):
Justice on maternity leave, so Lon Laosa is filling in
and we got some special guests in the building. That's right,
we got Matt Bones and Stephen Jackson. Welcome fellas.

Speaker 5 (01:02:45):
How y'all feeling good? Tired but good good?

Speaker 1 (01:02:48):
Collectively known as All the Smoke Podcasts? Right, Their new
coffee table book is out right now, All the Smoke Man.
You know, I always say, like, I know that there's
a lot of athletes who do podcasts and stuff. I
don't know anybody before y'all. I feel like y'all started
that whole wave. How did this come about? This just
for a podcast? Like I know, y'all was partnered together.

Speaker 18 (01:03:08):
I think I think Jack retired maybe one or two
years before me and we both got out. We're doing
ESPN and Fox and getting positive feedback and people said
we needed to do something together. And we were at
my house in the Bay one time smoking. I'm just like,
you want to do a podcast? And he was like, sure,
what is it? I was like, I don't really know,
but I think I think we can drink and smoke.
Because we were working ESPN and Fox, you know, you
got to kind of walk that line. So it was

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just a little bit more to our comfort zone. And
he said, yeah, So I started doing the homework and
we landed here. We landed the showtime.

Speaker 4 (01:03:35):
Kamala was your most recent we said, Joe Kim.

Speaker 18 (01:03:38):
Noah after her, But yeah, Kamala was yeah, a big
boy for us.

Speaker 5 (01:03:41):
And how was that?

Speaker 4 (01:03:42):
I know you're a little reluctant a little bit at first.

Speaker 5 (01:03:44):
Oh no, you know that I called him and talked
to him about it. Me and Matt.

Speaker 14 (01:03:48):
We went at it for a couple of days about it.
You don't want to do it at first, nah, because
I really don't want to get in politics.

Speaker 5 (01:03:53):
I don't.

Speaker 14 (01:03:53):
I don't even want to be involved, and a lot
of people that support me don't get involved.

Speaker 5 (01:03:57):
You know what I'm saying. I look at it the
same way I look at it, but as a friend
and as a brother to him.

Speaker 14 (01:04:02):
You know, anything that he asks me to do something,
you know, nine or ten times, i'm law to a fault.
You know what I'm saying, even if it's something I
don't want to do, but I know it was beneficial
for our company. I know it's benefit. And I see
after I did the interview, I see now I have
a lot of women in my life. I have eight
aunts of six daughters, you know, so I would look
to them after I did the interview.

Speaker 5 (01:04:23):
I'm glad I did it now.

Speaker 14 (01:04:25):
Because they all look at her and they look up
to her and inspire to be great like her.

Speaker 5 (01:04:29):
So I'm glad I did it.

Speaker 18 (01:04:30):
You know, when he said he didn't want it, first
of all, I told him as a stack of I
ever let you wrong in a business decision or life,
and he said no. But you know, when he said
he didn't want to get involved with the politics, I
told him, you know, I don't think that was his
choice because once he did that George Floyd thing, he
put his smack dab in the middle of the biggest
leading one of the biggest protests this world has ever seen.
So a lot of things come with that, a lot

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of good, a lot of bad, but a lot of
things come with that. And I think that he implanted
himself in the middle. And I always will respect his opinion,
but I just thought, this can be an opportunity for
he has a very loyal following, and it could have
been a you know, it was a it was an
opportunity for him to you know, get some stuff on
his chest or ask straight to the face, and you know,
asked her asked her straight to the face those questions.
So I'm glad he decided to come around. It took

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him a minute, like, literally, let me tell you, bro,
until she came in the room. Jack wouldn't right until so,
so she came in the room, and then she took
us away from the group and and took us on
a walk throughout the house and started showing us these
this dope black art and sculptures.

Speaker 5 (01:05:28):
And Jack was still tough like.

Speaker 18 (01:05:31):
And then he saw this one piece of already liked
and she talked about it, and she had moved on
and I kept falling, and he went and.

Speaker 5 (01:05:37):
Touched the art and looked at it. I was like, oh,
she might be getting to him.

Speaker 18 (01:05:41):
And then he showed she showed this dope ass chandelier.
And then once she showed the chandelier and explained it,
and then Jack started smiles like, all right, she got him,
so we were straight. So it took him a minute
to him up.

Speaker 4 (01:05:49):
Did she know that you didn't want to do it?

Speaker 5 (01:05:51):
She had, Yeah, she had a little bit. I guess
she had a little somebody to show him to handed her.

Speaker 4 (01:05:55):
Did y'all smoke before you got there?

Speaker 5 (01:05:56):
I did, of course, I'm high now.

Speaker 18 (01:06:01):
Yeah, it was too presidential to be able to try
to sneak it in and get went off. And we
was representing a lot of people, so we didn't want
to get in trouble. But yeah, definitely pregamed.

Speaker 5 (01:06:10):
You know, that was one of them smoke shower, you know,
Steve Hotel.

Speaker 1 (01:06:17):
You know, y'all had the last conversation with Kobe Bryant,
last interview with Kobe Bryant, and I always wondered, was
that the last time either one of y'all actually.

Speaker 5 (01:06:23):
Spoke to him.

Speaker 14 (01:06:25):
That was the first and last time I spoke to
him since we played against each other.

Speaker 5 (01:06:28):
Wow, I know, mad y'all had.

Speaker 18 (01:06:30):
Yeah, we would see each a little bit more because
he was coaching and I was coaching the Twins. So
we had talked maybe one time after that, and then
he had sent some shoes literally the week I think
he passed on a Sunday. He sent shoes that previous
Monday to the Twins and their whole team, so they
had just got fresh Kobe. So we had spoken then obvious,
like I said, he sent some shoes the week of

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the actual past, so it was it was tough man, what.

Speaker 1 (01:06:54):
Stands out from that conversation. I mean, you have it,
y'all have it into all the small coffee table book.
But what stands out from that competition just from that.

Speaker 18 (01:07:00):
We had a conversation in this office before we actually
got on camera, and he was really adamant about this
next twenty years and for the world to be prepared
for what he was doing in business. He was just
finishing writing one of those children novels he was working on,
and he just like fellas like, I don't want people
to remember me for my last twenty years. I want
them to remember me for my next twenty years. You know,
he had the fund and had one Emmy's and doing
all kinds of stuff in the business space. And obviously

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really saw when I got to see him coach Gigi
and just he didn't always never showed a ton of joy,
but you can just tell he loved it. I mean,
he had these little girls running the triangle offense with
take some grown men a long time to learn.

Speaker 5 (01:07:35):
He had these girls practicing four or five days a week,
three hours a day.

Speaker 18 (01:07:38):
Like the thing about COVID, he didn't take nothing light
when it came to basketball. So these were little young girls,
but they were running the Lakers offense to a t.
He was like a drill stargeant with it. But you
could tell he loved it. You know, all those little
girls loved him and looked up to him, and just
the passion behind that was.

Speaker 5 (01:07:53):
Beautiful to see for me.

Speaker 14 (01:07:55):
I think seeing meeting him as a teenager and seeing
him grow into the icon he was.

Speaker 5 (01:08:00):
I just admired that.

Speaker 14 (01:08:00):
You know, with so many players and basketball players you
come across doing AAU and traveling, you know, coming up
as a teenager, you see so many people that's supposed
to be great.

Speaker 5 (01:08:08):
That don't live up to it. You know what I'm saying.
He lived up to it and exceeded it.

Speaker 14 (01:08:11):
So you know, just to be able to sit there
to talk to him after our careers, you know what
I mean, and go through the memories, you know what
I'm saying.

Speaker 5 (01:08:17):
Then you know before he passed them and everything. To me,
what do you think about the Lakers? Now?

Speaker 4 (01:08:21):
We see Bronnie played the last two games and people
are on Brownie's ass.

Speaker 14 (01:08:24):
That's a beautiful I show him there we got in
the car with That's the dopest picture when you're helping
his dad up there that's the dope.

Speaker 5 (01:08:30):
Whoever hate die.

Speaker 18 (01:08:31):
Yeah, I mean I think if anyone deserves this opportunity
to play with his son, I think it's him, you
know what I mean. And and the fact that that
whole thing was orchestrated for him to get to the
Lakers is amazing.

Speaker 11 (01:08:41):
And I was, I was.

Speaker 18 (01:08:42):
I had a moment this past summer because my twins
are fifteen now, so I take them and play against
grown men. And I remember one time me and the
twins were on the same team playing and we was hooping.
I'm just like, man, this is so dope. I couldn't
imagine this on the highest level. So to me, I mean,
the kid was a fifty fifth pick. I mean, the
fifty fifth pick doesn't even make it. So all these
crazy expectations for him earlier ridiculous, like allow him to develop.
But you know, we don't live in a world where

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development is allowed, especially on the highest level. So I
think from a father's son aspect, is incredible. But you know,
the Lakers are one of those teams where you got
to produce what have you've done for me lately? And
they haven't necessarily done that. So it's going to be
interesting you know scrutinage year.

Speaker 16 (01:09:16):
I think we were talking about that earlier. Do you
think that Bronni will actually have the chance to develop?
But you feel like people going to pigeonhold him so.

Speaker 14 (01:09:21):
Much that it might get you even more of a
chance to develop because his father's death, Like that's the
motivation you have, and he's seeing what it takes to
be great. So all that is in him already, and
now he's in the in the in the facilities where
you have everything here to be great. I think I think, yes,
everything you need, and I think he's definitely gonna blosm mover.

Speaker 18 (01:09:38):
And I also think too, I mean, I don't think
you look at Bronnie in the same light as you
look at lebron.

Speaker 5 (01:09:46):
Try.

Speaker 18 (01:09:47):
I just think I think he's going to be a
very solid role player. I mean, he's got a high
high i Q place defense, can make the right play,
can shoot the ball. So I just think he needed
a little bit more time to develop, and now he's
developing on the biggest stage. But I think, you know,
two three, four years, he's going to be a very
solid rotational player.

Speaker 5 (01:10:03):
All Right.

Speaker 3 (01:10:03):
We got more with Steven Jackson and Matt Bonnes from
all the Smoke podcasts. When we come back, so don't move,
It's to Breakfast Club, Good Morning Owning Everybody as the
j n VY. Jess Hilary is Charlamage the guy. We
are the Breakfast Club. Laura LaRosa is filling in for Jess,
and we still kick it with Steven Jackson and Matt
Bonds from all the Smoke Podcasts.

Speaker 5 (01:10:20):
Charlomagne, what was.

Speaker 1 (01:10:21):
The process of putting his book together? Like, how did
y'all choose which conversations to put.

Speaker 18 (01:10:25):
Into shout out Dylan, Yeah, obviously, yeah, you and the
company and then Dylan just understanding you know, where we
the caliber of guests we had and the different topics
we spoke on. You know, again, there's a ton of
people in this space now as far as sports, but
I don't look as if as competition. I think everyone
had their own journey and their own voice and their
own experiences, and I think we still think with all

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the conversations we had, our conversation is still different from
everybody else. So so just important, you know, family, mental health,
everything that comes along in this journey. And you know,
we've been able to transition from not just a sports
show to just kind of a more of a culturally
relevant show, you know when we're talking to the Kevin's
and the Wills and the Jada's and the.

Speaker 5 (01:11:04):
Jamis and and the VP.

Speaker 18 (01:11:06):
So I just think, you know, high level conversations with
high level people, and you know, being able to be
celebrated with that. I mean, if I'm not mistaken with
the first podcasts with the coffee table book, man, so
I think it's it's it's a tremendous opportunity. We're very
thankful for it and and hope that everyone checks it out.

Speaker 16 (01:11:21):
How did how did you guys know it was time
to You talk a lot about transition, that it was
time to transition in and like lean into like okay,
the podcast, the merch like just the business side of things,
Like was that a switch? It probably was planned, But
when did you know, like okay, it's trying to jump
the fence now.

Speaker 5 (01:11:35):
Man.

Speaker 18 (01:11:35):
The reason why I left the NBA the first year
of a three year deal, I happened to win a
championship with Golden State and I wouldn't get to get
after you got planned. I wasn't get a chance to
my kids, you know what I mean? So you know,
it was kind of a perfect storm when we won
a championship and I was ready to move. So I
was just kind of excited. And I think sometimes how

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why athletes have a hard time transitioning because they don't
get to leave on their on accord. Most of the
time it's injuries or a reputation, or just teams don't
want to know more. But you know, I was someone
that just you know, I was in the midst of
a contract and I'm just like, man, you know, this
is the blessing we won. I want I'm missing so
much time with my sons, my father first, so you
know that was my transitioning reason. And then once I transition,

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I'm like, damn, what's next. You know, I had invested
well and you know, had some things moving, but I
knew I was still needed to find something to do.
And you know, media came knocking for both of us.
You know, we kind of ran with it. So, I mean,
Jack is the kind of guy that you know, he
trusts very few, so if you're in his trust circle,
he's going to listen to you. And when I pitched
the idea, he trusted me to run with it and

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make it happen, and you know that's what I was
able to do.

Speaker 4 (01:12:42):
I want to ask some basketball question before y'll get
about of here, Klay Thompson, what you think about him
leaving the war is and you think it was time
for him to go?

Speaker 5 (01:12:49):
I think it's a breath of fresh air for him.
I mean some guys need that doing their career. You
know what I mean. You've played it service, Bob for
so long. It's a bad feel in the body.

Speaker 14 (01:12:58):
I ain't won last couple of years, so a lot
of times they're going to try to find somebody to
blame it on. And it fell on Clay, you know
what I'm saying, which which is unfortunate because he's the
reason why they have a big part why they have
all those championships over there.

Speaker 5 (01:13:10):
But this is how professional sports goals. Yeah, that's how
it goes.

Speaker 14 (01:13:13):
And I think it's great for him because he's landed
in the spot where he can do what he do
best with two of the best one on one players
ever and Kyrie and Luca he could spot up and
shoot jumpers. So I think I think it's a great,
great situation for him because I've been in a situation
where I was somewhere and I needed to go to
a different team to be to flourish and be a
better player when I came to Golden State.

Speaker 5 (01:13:31):
So that's kind the same for him. Clay is a hooper. Yeah,
oh yeah, he played on both ends.

Speaker 6 (01:13:36):
W NBA.

Speaker 4 (01:13:38):
What are your thoughts this year? What a new excitement,
new life. Sometimes I ain't go front. It feels better
than the NBA is it's what's your thoughts on WNBA?

Speaker 14 (01:13:47):
The women's game is perier, man, you know what I'm saying.
They all played the right way. It's refreshing to watch.
It's good to see them start to get their money
and get their attention that they deserve. I'm a hooper,
so I'm all for anybody that's hooping, that's putting in
that work, you know what I'm saying, that's grinded all
these years to get to the top of I'm happy
that they.

Speaker 5 (01:14:04):
They just do. I think the growth of the game
is tremendous.

Speaker 18 (01:14:06):
You know the fact that we're talking about it and
seeing it on ESPN and all the highlights and and
and you know, we're doing a piece that I'm excited
about on injuries and caith and Clark and just their
dynamic that they brought to the game, and and the
vehicle of new fans they brought. And you've heard kind
of some of the good and the bad that have
come with that. You know, Angel spoke out on just
the negativity and the racism that'll come from some fans

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and kind of using them.

Speaker 4 (01:14:30):
But is that normal though, because you know, it seems
like that's normal in the league. I'm sure that you
guys have been called a million and one names.

Speaker 5 (01:14:36):
Absolutely absolutely.

Speaker 18 (01:14:44):
Utah, yeah, I just got and yeah that's back when
you still had the space between your teeth.

Speaker 5 (01:14:49):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, exactly. Yeah. I had had a cardboard
cut out under the gold with me and a jail suit.
Oh no, it was funny too.

Speaker 18 (01:14:56):
We were all laughing signed it. Yeah no, But I
just I think the growth of the game is this.
I think it's going to continue to grow. It's got
new eyeballs and new sponsorship and new money, and you know,
we just want to continue to celebrate them.

Speaker 16 (01:15:07):
There was a video last year in November that went
viral of you and Derek Fisher coaching the Twins together.
That was a really That video was like I think
the world was like, oh wow, the world.

Speaker 6 (01:15:17):
Yeah, I was.

Speaker 16 (01:15:23):
I remember twenty fifteen and everything before that, Right, what
was it like getting to that point where now were
on the court.

Speaker 4 (01:15:29):
It's important to do it, But what.

Speaker 1 (01:15:30):
Was that like?

Speaker 18 (01:15:30):
Standing me and Fish squashed that summer after it happened,
like that happened at the beginning of one season, and
then the next summer once I found out he was around,
and then twins cared about him, Like we squashed it
because it wasn't about my ex and I no more.
It was about trying to raise these young men. So
Fish has been in the boys life for almost half
their life, you know what I mean. So we've always
been And I was real enough to sit down and
have a conversation with him, like, bro, I'm still playing,

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so you're going to see my kids more than me.

Speaker 5 (01:15:53):
I need you to teach them the ropes.

Speaker 18 (01:15:55):
Well I'm not around, so to me, you know, once
I got over, and once we talked about how I
didn't agree with the move and it could have went
a different way, Like it wasn't about saving that, it
was about harvesting and we got to raise two young
black men. So I mean, I think he's done a
great shot. I tip my hat to him all the time.
I mean, he's he's their second dad, and he you know,
I coached him in the summer during au and he
coaches them during high school. So I mean when people

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see us, they still kind of trip out. But like
we are, our beef was for a season that long
for y'all.

Speaker 5 (01:16:22):
Yeah, it's easy to squash beef when you win the fight.
We appreciate y'all. Y'all got some shoulds show today? Yep.

Speaker 18 (01:16:38):
Yeah, Philly with with a million dollars worth of game
and and a really special guest coming through with them.

Speaker 5 (01:16:44):
Man, so we're excited to be honest. Jones, Davies all
them said, they was pulling up, so I'm looking to
see you. I'm is it gonna be a I and Philly? Well,
you know that's probably my favorite, is my favorite AI
com flash.

Speaker 1 (01:17:02):
That conversation is into all the smoke Coffee table book,
which is out right now, all the stalls, all the stories,
no apologies, go get it.

Speaker 5 (01:17:09):
That's right.

Speaker 4 (01:17:09):
It's the Breakfast Club. Good morning, the Breakfast Club.

Speaker 5 (01:17:15):
Morning.

Speaker 3 (01:17:15):
Everybody is ej ND just hilarious charlamage and the guy.

Speaker 4 (01:17:19):
We are the Breakfast Club. It's time for positive note
what we got.

Speaker 1 (01:17:22):
But it's really simple, man. For everybody out there that's
always on social media, you know, trying to curate the
perfect image, putting a filter on everything. I just want
to tell y'all, y'all be so worried about image. You
need to clean up your spirit. Okay, some of y'all
need to clean up your spirit. Go do some damn
work on yourself. I'm not out here, you know, pushing
for therapy just because y'all need to go out here

(01:17:43):
and find a therapist.

Speaker 5 (01:17:44):
Y'all need to find a spiritual leader.

Speaker 1 (01:17:46):
Y'all need to just really clean up your spirit because
your spirit is disgusting and nasty.

Speaker 5 (01:17:50):
Have a blessed day breakfast club you don't finish for y'all.

Speaker 18 (01:17:53):
Done,