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Speaker 1 (00:02):
Breakfast blood got daddy the rightist cuts. I want to
breakfast Club, Baby. I can't say breakfast club without the
Breakless Club.

Speaker 2 (00:11):
You're like this rare air.

Speaker 1 (00:14):
She got platforms and partners all over the place. Because
your man is so high, people want to be invested
with the Breakfast Club. Though. I don't think white people
know how popular.

Speaker 3 (00:23):
You guys are.

Speaker 1 (00:26):
DJ envyess hilarious, Charlemagne the God. You guys really are
like the hip hop early morning, late night talk to y'all.
Y'all know what you'all talking about. This is your time
to get it off your chest. Eight hundred five eighty
five one five one. We want to hear from you
on the Breakfast Club.

Speaker 4 (00:46):
Hello.

Speaker 1 (00:47):
Who's this?

Speaker 5 (00:48):
This is Jamel Newburn, North Carolina, Jamail, get her off
your chest?

Speaker 6 (00:53):
Hey, I just wanted to call y'all and uh, y'all,
good morning, charlamagnea god, DJ hilarious, what's having it?

Speaker 1 (01:01):
Good morning baby? Appreciate you.

Speaker 7 (01:03):
Hey.

Speaker 4 (01:03):
I also want to know I got two questions, d J.
I mean Charlemagne the cod Yes, I need all your books.
I got shook one.

Speaker 7 (01:13):
I'm eating that right now.

Speaker 1 (01:15):
Okay. I got a new book called Get On us
and die line. Watch small talk sucks. Okay, they last,
they last.

Speaker 6 (01:21):
And I also want to shout out my wife and
my kids.

Speaker 1 (01:24):
Damn, I thought you were a stud. He did the
whole time.

Speaker 4 (01:33):
I thought, Hey, I listened to y'all every morning.

Speaker 6 (01:36):
Okay, my first time, this is my first time calling,
and I got straight through.

Speaker 4 (01:41):
That's crazy.

Speaker 1 (01:43):
I appreciate you.

Speaker 5 (01:44):
Hey, hey, hey, but hey, but Charlomad, can you send
me a book of fan I got you gonna, I got,
I got a pack in here for you.

Speaker 6 (01:52):
I need, I need that black privilege on.

Speaker 8 (01:54):
Don't hang up.

Speaker 1 (01:55):
Okay, all right, say let's say left.

Speaker 4 (01:57):
All right, I mean, all right.

Speaker 1 (01:59):
Jack, all right, man, ain't sound like a stud. I'm
comparing at the end, right man, you know the same.

Speaker 2 (02:06):
Time it did something she did, I mean he did something.

Speaker 1 (02:09):
Well uddy, well he and she could have a wife
regardless of Yeah, I was gonna say, your wife thinking
is but.

Speaker 2 (02:14):
This she ain't never denied, she had never done it,
so she yeah, so she probably is like, oh, you
got me next.

Speaker 1 (02:19):
For somebodys don't know they got a sound.

Speaker 8 (02:21):
Hello, Yeah, what's up, Brady, Get you off.

Speaker 7 (02:24):
Your chest over her back.

Speaker 8 (02:26):
Tell you a man to be quiet for.

Speaker 9 (02:27):
A say, you get full top of the morning.

Speaker 4 (02:30):
How y'all doing king, how you have everything good?

Speaker 9 (02:34):
So listen right, I wanted to get it off my
chest that you know all my lady man, she god
through my phone when I'm sleeping, and then you know,
whenever I try to go through her phone when she sleep,
she's sleeping with her on her pillow underneath her, you know, and.

Speaker 4 (02:48):
Should she would have wake up man anyway through her phone.

Speaker 1 (02:53):
Why y'all don't trust each other? How about that? I
don't hear nothing else. Why y'all don't trust each other?
That's so conny, y'all with each other phone?

Speaker 4 (02:58):
Listen, listen, it's not even that you know, I don't.
I don't do that.

Speaker 1 (03:02):
You just said you do it. You just said she
go through your phone and you go through her phone.

Speaker 4 (03:06):
Yeah, but I do that because she do it. But
I'm saying I don't just randomly say I'm gonna go
to her phone because I will.

Speaker 8 (03:11):
Sir, Have you cheated before?

Speaker 4 (03:12):
I got caught cheating in the past?

Speaker 1 (03:15):
There you go. Has she got caught cheating?

Speaker 4 (03:17):
No?

Speaker 1 (03:17):
Is this your guilty conscience? What do you say yet?

Speaker 8 (03:20):
Trying to get even with him.

Speaker 1 (03:21):
Man, knock it off.

Speaker 4 (03:22):
You try to get either with me your knock it off.

Speaker 1 (03:26):
Knock it off.

Speaker 8 (03:26):
You don't stop going through my phone.

Speaker 4 (03:29):
I just told you she goes through my phone when
I'm sleep.

Speaker 8 (03:32):
Yeah, so that means you do it too.

Speaker 1 (03:33):
What's the tip of tap for? He's scared just like yo.

Speaker 4 (03:37):
Listen listen. Why she can go through my when I'm
sleep but I can't go through her though.

Speaker 1 (03:41):
You're just scared she's gonna get that poom poom to
somebody else because you got a guilty conscience.

Speaker 4 (03:45):
That's all all.

Speaker 1 (03:46):
You gave her a reason to because you got caught cheating.

Speaker 4 (03:51):
Yeah, listen, I appreciate you. Guys.

Speaker 1 (03:56):
Hello, who's this yet with your boy? J p A?
Good morning Pa?

Speaker 7 (04:02):
Hello?

Speaker 1 (04:02):
What's up Jay Gas?

Speaker 4 (04:04):
Yeah? I hear you.

Speaker 1 (04:04):
What's going on? Get it off your chest? All right? Man?

Speaker 6 (04:07):
I just want to let everybody know, especially the brothers
out there, especially as black man.

Speaker 4 (04:11):
Man, go home, man, go home. That over time.

Speaker 6 (04:15):
It ain't worth it. That money, it's not worth it.

Speaker 7 (04:19):
You got home here.

Speaker 1 (04:21):
Like you needs if you needed to keep the lights
on at home.

Speaker 6 (04:25):
Listen, listen, listen, sol Man, you know, listen. Family more
important than anything bro, I'm listening. For a year straight,
I was working doubles almost every day. I almost lost
my family behind this bro. And she simply told me.
She was like, Yo, you just simply weren't there, damn.
But that's that's more important than anything right now. Like
I'm fighting right now to get my family back, kids, wife,

(04:47):
all that, bro. Like, and I realized, like, yo, that
money ain't important.

Speaker 7 (04:51):
Like you know what the kids missed.

Speaker 6 (04:53):
They missed me being there.

Speaker 1 (04:54):
That's right.

Speaker 6 (04:55):
You feel what I'm saying. They ain't worried about that
dollar billing. Kids don't care about how much money I'm making.
They gonna be for that time I spent with them.
The light get cut off, they ain't gonna think about, oh,
dadd ain't have the money for that. They're gonna think, yo,
dad was playing with us with the flashlights.

Speaker 4 (05:07):
Well you don't want to like to go home, but
you're right.

Speaker 5 (05:10):
You got to make time for your family absolutely positively
now doing.

Speaker 1 (05:14):
Devil's the most important thing.

Speaker 6 (05:17):
Yeah, Like I'm fighting for it right now.

Speaker 4 (05:19):
You know what I'm saying.

Speaker 6 (05:20):
And I can't blame it, like it's my fault.

Speaker 5 (05:22):
I wasn't there, But you know you can't and I
don't want to. You know, you're putting a lot on yourself,
you know, as a as a father. You know, the
first thing that to be thinking is we got to
protect and provide and provide means a lot, and especially
in this crazy world where people have been losing their jobs,
things have been messed up.

Speaker 8 (05:36):
So you just want to.

Speaker 5 (05:37):
Make sure that you can pay for school, you can
pay for activities, you can pay for your house, your
car and all those things.

Speaker 8 (05:42):
So don't beat yourself up too much.

Speaker 1 (05:43):
But they're talking about activities this brother right here, you
just want to keep some food on the table. And sadly,
sometimes that's all it is. That that seems like the
bad minimum, but it's really not. It's actually a whole lot.
Especially what you're saying, well, you're saying that you want
to spend more time with your family. Man, So I
think we got to shift our mindset. A lot of
times we think just being able to provide food and
keep a roof over the head of the bad minimum.

(06:05):
It's not that is a lot. That's a whole lot
of it. That's right.

Speaker 6 (06:08):
Time is more important than anything, Like I just switched
up jobs. I took a lower paying job. I'm working
third ship, so I could be home with them all day.
Like I don't care about no money, no more aspect.

Speaker 7 (06:18):
You leave them, I leave them.

Speaker 1 (06:20):
I respect it, my brother. Salute to you man, and
salutes being a stand up man for your family.

Speaker 4 (06:24):
Brother.

Speaker 8 (06:24):
Absolutely, have a good one.

Speaker 1 (06:26):
Brother.

Speaker 6 (06:26):
Hey, hey, saw macocket a book?

Speaker 3 (06:27):
Bro?

Speaker 1 (06:28):
Yes, send my guy a book because you don't got
no money. You have your money another one, Send him
a book right now, eddie, get it. Put them on
hold and get my guy's address and send him a
copy and get on at a die line right now.
That's the least I can do for you, brother.

Speaker 4 (06:42):
I appreciate it.

Speaker 7 (06:43):
Bro.

Speaker 1 (06:43):
Yes, sir, have a good one.

Speaker 7 (06:44):
Man.

Speaker 5 (06:44):
Get it off your chest. Eight hundred and five eight
five one five one. If you need to vent, hit
us up now. It's the breakfast club. Good morning, the
breakfast Club. It's your time to get it off your chests.
Whether you're mad or.

Speaker 1 (06:59):
Blessed, got out of the same industry. We want to
hear from you on the breakfast Club.

Speaker 7 (07:04):
Hello that yo, Good morning dj n V. Charlotte Maine
in chests, good morning. How you are doing this is
coach Davis?

Speaker 10 (07:12):
Off your chest?

Speaker 7 (07:12):
What's up listen, which.

Speaker 3 (07:15):
Is with school spear running down.

Speaker 7 (07:17):
Man. You know, I ran across something on my timeline
on Facebook talking about the possibility of New York City
getting rid of the Regent's tests for students to graduate
high school. And I think that's a horrible idea. You know,
I understand that to to.

Speaker 3 (07:33):
Gain college admissions.

Speaker 7 (07:34):
You know, they slowed down on the SAT, which is
understandable because there was some cultural bias to it, you know,
understanding the idea of the analogy of social sofa to
fourier or couch just.

Speaker 3 (07:46):
The hallway if you were in a project.

Speaker 7 (07:48):
She had no idea what the then fourier is.

Speaker 4 (07:51):
So I did it.

Speaker 7 (07:52):
But you have to have some competency, competency to get
out of high school, man, and to take the region's
test out. I think it's crazy.

Speaker 1 (08:00):
Well, the region's test is.

Speaker 5 (08:01):
You know, New York has wanted seven states that has
their regions exams. But they were saying the reason that
they were getting rid of the Region's exam is one
that's not in every state. And two they're saying a
lot of kids just don't take tests well. And if
a kid doesn't take tests well or gainst anxiety, or
gets nervous, they can possibly fail.

Speaker 8 (08:17):
And if they fail that that region's exam.

Speaker 5 (08:19):
Even if they do well, they might not be able
to get their high school diploma.

Speaker 1 (08:22):
That's how I ended up in the slow glass because
I'm not good at taking.

Speaker 7 (08:27):
The shot. Under President Bush Junior, there was a policy
called NCLB, no child.

Speaker 8 (08:35):
That's behind correct.

Speaker 7 (08:37):
That was the worst policy in educational history because, like
you said, they got this test anxiety. Well listen, they're
not going to leave them behind anyway. So somebody has
to have to.

Speaker 1 (08:48):
Be a standing Yeah, but if.

Speaker 5 (08:52):
There are a lot of kids that don't take exams, well,
smart kids get anxiety, just don't understand necessarily the test
taking procedure.

Speaker 8 (08:59):
I mean, I was a hard taken Test two, but
that is not a surprise. Shut up.

Speaker 1 (09:03):
But yeah, he said that we were going to be still.
It was. It was I still got my degree.

Speaker 8 (09:09):
I got my degree, and I was I.

Speaker 7 (09:11):
Got my degree.

Speaker 10 (09:12):
I get it.

Speaker 7 (09:13):
Anything, I get it, I get it. You know, not
being able to you know, having such anxiety that is real.
But you're gonna get tested every day, dude, I'm saying,
not a math got to be able to live up
to it.

Speaker 1 (09:24):
Thank you. We do use math every day. Math kicked
your ass yesterday when you was trying to do the
Tupaca quation when you said Tupaca dad for fifteen years Okay.

Speaker 5 (09:33):
But that wasn't math. That was his memory. That was
like trying to do to It was like yesterday trying
to do twenty four minus nineteen ninety six. It was
so said, that wasn't.

Speaker 1 (09:43):
Math, man, that that was his memory. I was trying
to remember what he passed away. That's why I threw
out that like fifteen years ago.

Speaker 4 (09:48):
But now I'm trying to figure.

Speaker 2 (09:49):
Out how but the note chot, the note child left behind.
That's crazy that. I don't think that should be a
program either, because they just pushing these kids along, whether
they whether they inhabits of them all the time, Like
kids will be on like third grade reeking levels and
he's pushing them all the way up the middle school.

Speaker 1 (10:05):
We know, jes we know, you know. Get it off
your chest.

Speaker 5 (10:14):
Eight hundred five eight five one oh five one. If
you need to vent, hit us up now. It's the
Breakfast Club.

Speaker 8 (10:18):
Good morning, the Breakfast.

Speaker 1 (10:20):
Club, Good morning.

Speaker 5 (10:22):
Everybody is DJ en Vy, Jess Hilarious, Charlamagne the God
we are the Breakfast Club.

Speaker 8 (10:27):
We got a special guest in the building.

Speaker 1 (10:29):
Yes, indeed, we have jiraw called Michael.

Speaker 11 (10:32):
I'll be doing your voice in the showers more than
everybody's d.

Speaker 1 (10:35):
J thinks about you and naked. Yeah, yeah, you know what.

Speaker 11 (10:41):
Let's lean into all the games. Like sometimes when I'm naked,
I think about DJA. Yes, yes, yes, yes, happy to
see you.

Speaker 4 (10:50):
Happy to see you, bro.

Speaker 1 (10:51):
So I'm always happy when people come right after donkey
of Today show. Oh my god, let me tell you something.
I was responding to you, like Monique in my house,
just pacing around, just being like Lena, Lena, what your
mother said about giving me No, let's talk about that.
So there's a couple of things I want to make
clear about that. So Charlamagne gave you donkey to day

(11:15):
you report it on you.

Speaker 11 (11:18):
You played a clip of my stand up, but it
started at the punchline, and it like completely erased the
setup of it.

Speaker 1 (11:25):
And I really don't like that.

Speaker 11 (11:27):
It made it seem like I was talking like I'm
into some type of race sexual slavery role play with
my boyfriend, which is untrue. It's so false, and I
expect that type of thing from TMZ because they have
no humanity. They don't care about the people that get
hurt when they report these sort of things. But your friend,
so I really didn't like that, Like, like, I know
you repeated it in the Neil interview. I didn't like

(11:48):
that that that was very, very unfair. It was a joke.

Speaker 1 (11:52):
But yeah, but I need you to watch the show
Man and anybody who watches the show. It's not what
I said.

Speaker 11 (11:57):
It's so false. It's so untrue. And I don't like
that because it's like, no, well, we'll get into that later.
It has nothing to do with my boyfriend. It has
nothing like the sex that we have, has nothing to
do with sex. It's something like people have been reporting
on and I really really don't like it. It's about
my boyfriend reading so much. He makes me feel insecure

(12:17):
about my level of reading. And look, I get it,
like it's something that people have been running with because
one because I have a white boyfriend, so like people
like try and create some type of crazy story out
of that. And it's a small group of people really
like I read all the tweets and it's like some
gay black men and some klu Klux clan members who
don't like that I have a white boyfriend.

Speaker 1 (12:39):
They agree on that, so.

Speaker 11 (12:40):
Congratulations, like the Klan and doctor Lumara and some people
find some common ground on that.

Speaker 1 (12:46):
But he's a human being. He deserves respect. I deserve respect.

Speaker 11 (12:50):
I don't appreciate things being misreported or like said about
them in that way. It's completely false, So I don't
like that. I just want to make that clear that
that's not something. I know you were just reading the news,
but like you're a friend, and I want you to
like actually have nuance with these stories, like people can
get hurt. They're actually real lives at stake with the
things that you say, and look, come after me, that's fine,

(13:11):
but don't come after like my my boyfriend. Well I'm
saying when that's in the headline and that's reported like
and then misreported like oh he's into race slave play
with his white boyfriend, I don't like that headline because
it's false.

Speaker 1 (13:25):
It is not true at all. Now on to Dave Chappelle. No,
I want to stay to the joke, though in context,
the joke still not a good joke. That's on you
comedy for a while. I got I got some because
you're still saying you're a slave. No, you know, slave
math is teaching the slave to read. You know, Listen,
I'm talking about my own personal insecurity. I'm an educated person.
I'm usually the smartest person in the room. He reads

(13:47):
so much it makes me feel like, oh do I
even know how to read? That joke works if I
had a black boyfriend. My boyfriend was black. That joke
actually works better if I had and you the slave
and the white person is the slave. Listen, if you calne, well,
you know the first anti literacy laws were created in
north of Stodca line.

Speaker 11 (14:03):
You are sure, sure, but that's not my roles. Comedian
to started getting into like like literacy laws and stuff
like that. You completely lost that I evoked provocative imagery
sometimes in my jokes. Some people are very sensitive to that.
That's your right. You don't have to laugh at that.
You could like hear the word slavery and completely shut off.
That's completely fine, But don't misconstrue what I said and
don't like make it into something that is not, because

(14:26):
that's where I start to get offended that the statement
like you said it like multiple times on the show,
like oh, he's into slave role play.

Speaker 1 (14:37):
With his white boyfriend. That's untrue that I think I
said it Charlemagne. That is not the joke.

Speaker 11 (14:43):
The joke's about me reading the jokes about my insecurity,
about like not being as well read. When I be
in bed next to him and he's saying, when I'm
in bed next to him and he's like on his
third novel of the month, I'll be watching breakfast club
interviews and I feel like, oh, do I should read more?

Speaker 1 (15:02):
That's what the joke is. The joke.

Speaker 11 (15:03):
It has nothing to do with sex, has nothing to
do with the type of sex that we have. And
that's just absolutely false, but still not a good joke.
When you're black and hey, listen, that's on you.

Speaker 1 (15:13):
It's on you. You do stand up and you figure
it out for me, the crowds laugh whatever. I'll say
this about if the crowd is the majority white, are
they laughing with you or at you? You know, it's fine.
I'm actually I'm actually shocked.

Speaker 8 (15:23):
It's actually a pretty decent amount of black.

Speaker 11 (15:25):
People coming out to see me. I really appreciate y'all
for coming out. I want y'all to keep coming out too.
I like the seeing it really, especially black women are
like in the crowd, they've been like talking to me.
They seem invested in my life, and it makes me
feel really really special. So I really like that and
I appreciate that. Now, I want to move on to
the Dave Chappelle portion of it, because I've heard you
comment on that too. I deeply regret ever saying anything

(15:48):
about Dave Chappelle to the press. I want to say
that I'm sorry for that, because one, I'm a huge
Dave Chappelle Dave Chappelle fan. I love Dave like. I
think he's brilliant. I think he's a bright lie in
a dying industry. I think he's more important now than
ever before, because like comedians are now just posting clips
that I'm doing crowd work online and calling at art,

(16:08):
and it's not art. Dave Chappelle is an artist. He's
one of the few artists that we have, and I
care deeply about the work that he makes. With that said,
the criticism that I had had nothing to do with
the morality of the joke, had nothing to do with
the ethics of the joke. That's something that's also been misreported.
The criticism I had was that of a fan someone
who respects him so much that I want him to

(16:30):
focus his genius on a wide range of topics. I
think that like it started, but it started being really
really focused on one thing.

Speaker 1 (16:39):
Well, I'll say this. Look that's like I'm saying that
about the slave YoY. I'll say this. I'm also a
big fan of jay Z. If jay Z made three
albums about trans people, I'd be like, Hey, what's going
on with jay? But Jaz made three albums more than
three albums about selling drugs, You're just gonna put him
in that. Uh, you don't pigeonhole them with debt, No
they jay Z. I mean, listen, I would love to

(16:59):
get to jay z argument. Jay Z was very personal,
very emotional. He always evolved. Four four four was incredible
because it showed growth and evolution and something you've never
seen before in rap.

Speaker 11 (17:10):
And that's a thing with comedy too. Comedy doesn't grow,
comedy doesn't evolve. It's it's kind of stunted like rap.
And like we just started getting like real braggadocious, like
antagonistic with the crowd, and it can evolve, like and
we need smart people like Dave, like Chris Rock, like
myself to actually evolve the art form because.

Speaker 1 (17:28):
It is dying. It's so so important for people to
go up and do deep personal stories or have a
deep perspective about things going on in the world because
it's not happening. You see it online. Yeah, I know.

Speaker 11 (17:42):
Well listen, all I'm saying is and because I've talked
about Dave a lot, I don't want to talk about
Dave anymore. I honestly, I called him an ego manac.
I'm a ego maniac. I'm here to talk about me.
I have a show that I want to talk about.

Speaker 1 (17:54):
A Yeah, yeah, I know, you know.

Speaker 11 (17:57):
And I'll tell you honestly, from now on, any the
thoughts I have for Dave will be directed in a
phone call to day.

Speaker 1 (18:04):
I'll never do it again.

Speaker 8 (18:06):
All Right, we got more A comedian girl called Michael.
When we come back, so don't move.

Speaker 1 (18:09):
It's to breakfast Club. Good morning, the breakfast club.

Speaker 5 (18:15):
Holding Everybody's dj NV, Jess Hilarius, Charlomagne, the God we
are to breakfast Club.

Speaker 1 (18:20):
Geral called Michael su here, Charlomagne. What would you say
to people who would say your mom is homophobic? But
when I look at it, I say no, she's very religious.
So I think she's looking at it through the religious religion.
Yeah yeah, And I think that at some point you
have to think about how you got to the place
that you are. I had a really good conversation with
my mom about even her finding religion and needing religion,

(18:45):
about the hurt, the disappointment in her life from her
dad and from other people in her life that led
her to needing God as much as she does and
depending on God as much she does. And we were
having a really really good conversation that my dad woke
up and interrupted. Its Yeah yeah, but you know, you
have to explore your life. You got to explore the

(19:06):
reasons why, because you can hurt people, like I know,
like people call it faith whatever, but they're human beings,
and like your opinion, my mother's opinion of me matters
so much. What made you want to do it now?

Speaker 11 (19:19):
Well, because after I came out, I realized that there
are other things I needed to come out about. I
think everybody's in a closet about something, and I was
in a closet. It was more than just being gay.
It was about of the feelings that I have. I
was in a closet about sex, addiction, or how I
am as a friend, or all these things. Like just

(19:39):
like I was a closeted person. I was holding everything
inside and the show was an outlet for me. I'm
an artist, and I use art as a means of
expression and as a means to heal, and so the
show just felt like a natural. I was doing all
these shows, I was doing stand up, and stand up
started being kind of a form of therapy.

Speaker 1 (19:59):
It was like reassociated therapy that would just go up
and I would talk about a problem that I have,
a deep personal problem that I have. The response from
the audience started being better. That's what I mean, Like
people coming to the shows there like like the heckles
that I get as a comedian are so thoughtful, Like
no comedian gets like the thought Like people turn into
therapists in the audience. Yeah I'm not. I watched that.

(20:19):
I was like, those heckles aren't real the audiences. No, No,
Like people are smart. I believe that. I believe that,
Like Twitter isn't just the that's not what the world is.

Speaker 7 (20:29):
Like.

Speaker 1 (20:30):
I hate it. Yeah, listen, sometimes I search your name
to make me feel better about myself. Charlemagne, I hate no,
But the heckles that I get are thoughtful responses because
you open yourself up and people open themselves up like
like they they respond in kind. And so I'm glad

(20:51):
you're a good friends to your friends who are expressing
themselves to you. How did you deal with the sex edition?
Sex edition? Still he's dealing with it, trying to figure
it out. I'm getting my candle every but I want
to show it shows you. You just be on grind
before your boyfriend was on grind and just that was old.
That was that had to be before your boyfriend, before

(21:13):
my boyfriend, and you know, like, yeah, sex sex, sex
is something else. Man, you got to keep watching the show.
You had a good explanation, though, you said, because you
waited so long to come out. Yeah, so now you
feel like a seventeen year old. Yeah, yeah, having making up,
making up for lost time, like just like yeah, they're
they're like, my emotional maturity level was a bit delayed.

(21:37):
That's it's a little embarrassing to admit, but true. But
even that, I do think there are certain aspects of
my personality that I inherit from my father. I've been
reading about that a lot, just like being you know,
you you learn how to be a man from your dad,
and I learned he hes gonna get mad because hes
gonna watch this, like always throwing me under the bus.
But it's just true, like it's something you learn therapy,

(21:59):
Like I hope this is how you model yourself as
a man. And so yeah, I look to sex as
a form of validation for my manlyhood, like to make
me feel like a man. Yeah, what did this show
doing for you that therapy can't. I've been using it
as a form of therapy because therapy is exploring yourself
and exploring your past, but it's not necessarily confrontation. I

(22:21):
still needed a tool to be confident enough to have
a conversation with my dad that I'd be terrified having otherwise.
Like you know, if I'm home in North Carolina, I'm
just like, you know, smiling, being a good son, being
the son that they want me to be. And I'm
not saying the real things, asking the real questions when
the camera's on. I've become like a journalist for my

(22:41):
own life, like no, no, no, what's that you said?
Ninety eight? You know, I get real real like but
but but without the cameras, I'm afraid you do show
how much of a friend you are too?

Speaker 4 (22:52):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (22:52):
No, well you did Pool, fil I know, I know.
Can I tell your show you can't be a best
man in a wedding and show up an hour late?
Yeah to the wedding, it's not your and then compare
it to jury duty? Why? You know? Look when is
it hard? Because I'm a performer, and so I look
at weddings as a show, like, all right, what is
this show that we're going to like?

Speaker 11 (23:12):
But but I love Pool and you know, I actually
got to a hit and we've been talking a lot.
I hope that he liked the episode, Like he's a
very sweet, thoughtful friend and inspired me so much, And
so I know I was a bad friend.

Speaker 1 (23:25):
Again, it's hard exposed like the show. I'm like the
villain of my own show. I'm Eric Kane on my
own show. Like I'm like people are like because I'm exposed.
I'm exposing myself in a real way like the Like
some of the worst parts of myself I'm putting out
there unedited, just like letting it, let in the world
see and judge and criticize. But I feel bad for that,
Like I felt bad an episode of It's something I'm

(23:47):
deeply apologetic for. I'm learning, I'm still growing. I'm learning
to not be as selfish. Sure that's a means of
self protection. Like I'm selfish because I'm scared, and I'm
learning not be as afraid. I want to ask, could
you just into something? You said that you had all
of this great stuff going on before you came out.
So do you feel like coming out as gay is
taking away the focus on on everything you've done in

(24:09):
your career? Show still exists, streaming on who I google you,
what's gonna come up to the same way you said
if you google Dave, it's all transgender stuffing I'm talking about.
Watch the show. I hope people watch the show. Like
if you if you see the show, you'll see the truth.

Speaker 12 (24:22):
You know.

Speaker 11 (24:23):
I'm confident in that, Like you know, I think this,
Like up top, I was just upset because something untrue
was I say enough true things to talk about, so
I don't need any lies.

Speaker 1 (24:32):
I don't need any of that. But yeah, I'm I'm
making art about my life and and I'm really proud
of it. I hope people watch the show. I think
the show is funny, kind of funny. Funny like man.
Y'all so straight, So Paul's funny like Jesus Christ, you

(24:53):
are so straight to congratulations Jesus Michael. Ladies and brought
you a candle.

Speaker 5 (25:13):
And I can check out the reality show Fridays on
HBO Match.

Speaker 1 (25:16):
Thank you, brother for joining us. Thanks for having me
the Breakfast Club. Your mornings will never be the same.
Good morning.

Speaker 5 (25:23):
Everybody is DJ Envy, Jess, Larry and Charlamagne the Guy.

Speaker 1 (25:27):
We are the Breakfast Club. Jess is out.

Speaker 5 (25:30):
Now we're asking this. I've seen this on Hollywood on Locked.
Eight hundred five eight five one oh five to one.
What are you starting to dislike more as you get older?
That is the question again, eight hundred five eight five
one oh five one. What are you starting to dislike
more as you get older?

Speaker 1 (25:43):
Well, suo, Hollywood Unlocked, my guy, Jason Lee, let me
read some of the coms before you get in New yorrks. Okay.

Speaker 5 (25:49):
Somebody said plastic surgery lips. Somebody said loud unnecessary noises.
That seems like the biggest ones, loud, loud people noise.
I might said the general public. Somebody said people. Somebody
said humans. Somebody said being out too late, now, being
out too late is one.

Speaker 1 (26:06):
Now I've been off. It gets to a certain time
and I just doug get tired. I don't even know
what that being out too late. I've been off that.

Speaker 10 (26:12):
Like.

Speaker 1 (26:12):
I like things that start early and in early, like
if I can be there at seven thirty, you know,
Like like my guy Stephen Corbet, they had a birthday
party for him this weekend. It started at seven thirty,
ten o'clock, ten thirty, I was out, you know what
I'm saying. We home by eleven eleven fifteen. We watched
the movie Saturday Night. That was a great Saturday night.
That's what I'm talking about. That's my type of night.
My thing is man alcohol in humans, right, Like I

(26:36):
used to have a very high tolerance for alcohol. We
used to get so drunk. But over the years, you know,
that has just gone away to the point where like, well,
when I'm out now, I could do a glass of
wine and be good if I do. If I do
two regular drinks at tequila, Like I'm just talking about
neat tequila with two ice cubes and a slice of
orange juice. Two drinks, the recovery time is too much.

(27:00):
I can't. I can't just get up the next day
and function like it takes me twenty four to thirty
six hours to recover from that. Yeah, for me, it's
it's I say, social media, I've been off that. Yeah.

Speaker 5 (27:10):
As I get older now and I don't even I
don't even tap into it to I say, going out.
I used to be the go out king every night.
Now what if I'm home, I want to stay home
if somebody calls me, I have to leave my house.
It's a bunch of questions.

Speaker 1 (27:25):
Absolutely, it's a bunch of questions. And when I say humans, man,
what I mean by humans? When I say I'm tired
of humans? I am tired of proving yourself as a friend. So,
for example, you can have friends that you've been friends
with for years, but you know your friends right and
you know that you know they get upset over small
things in life. It come a certain point after why

(27:48):
we are too old for that. So if you don't
know who I am by now and you constantly get
upset over little small things or because you feel slighted,
or because you didn't get what you want from me,
that's the other thing that people don't realize. It's not
really your friend. If the first time they don't get
what they want from you, you know, they get upset.
I don't have time for those kind of relationships at all,

(28:10):
Relationships that you got to walk on the eggshells with
none whatsoever.

Speaker 8 (28:14):
Somebody said bills in the comments.

Speaker 1 (28:16):
Oh, we ain't never like those, But guess what, that's
part of adult and you ain't got no choice. You
ain't got no choice for that.

Speaker 8 (28:21):
I'm trying to say.

Speaker 1 (28:21):
Somebody somebody said, nicks. As they get older, they tired
of knicks. Well, it's the same thing as humans. It's
not the same thing. It's the same thing. And one
other person said traffic. Nothing you can do about another.
But now, but see for traffic.

Speaker 5 (28:32):
Now, when when you when you start get a little older,
you start planning to avoid traffic. You'd be like, all right,
if I leave the city at this time, I ain't
got traffic. If I come into the city at this time,
man got traffic. So it's the same thing. But let's
go to the phone lines. Eight hundred five eight five,
one oh five one. We got Tanya on the line
this morning. Good morning, how are you feeling, Tanya?

Speaker 6 (28:50):
I'm good?

Speaker 1 (28:51):
How are you good? Now?

Speaker 8 (28:53):
What are you starting to dislike more as you get older.

Speaker 6 (28:55):
People don't take the shower.

Speaker 4 (28:57):
Okay, you talk to work mad o, the cool man,
just take the shower.

Speaker 1 (29:02):
We don't like he's out like that though.

Speaker 6 (29:04):
I was talking about he put the shower at night
and he happy.

Speaker 4 (29:08):
He's not happy.

Speaker 1 (29:09):
Yeah, well you gotta take a boat. You gotta take
a shower in the morning. Man, watch that night off.

Speaker 6 (29:14):
He's a grown man talking about he's so good.

Speaker 1 (29:18):
No wash that night off.

Speaker 7 (29:19):
Man.

Speaker 1 (29:19):
Same way, you gotta watch that day off. You gotta
watch that night off and you wake up in the morning. Hello,
who's this this ship?

Speaker 4 (29:25):
From the Being Shut State podcast?

Speaker 1 (29:27):
What's up? Chap? What are you talking to?

Speaker 5 (29:29):
Just like more as you get older, man, I hate
going out, bro, like just being around people and stuff
like that.

Speaker 4 (29:36):
We went to the Black Sake Podcast Festival. It started early,
it ended at a good time. It wasn't a lot
of people, bro. We was out of there on the
good turb Bro. I just don't like going out to
be an outlet.

Speaker 1 (29:47):
Well it was it was a couple of thousand people, sir.
So what do you mean it wasn't a lot of people.

Speaker 4 (29:52):
No, it wasn't wall the wall or like yeah, it
was comfortable.

Speaker 1 (29:57):
It was comfortable now yeah.

Speaker 4 (29:59):
And then we got out of that. A good time, broo,
A good time to get started to eat, get it fit.

Speaker 1 (30:03):
Let me tell you something they told me while we
were sitting backstated they was like, you know, the run
time until eight o'clock. I'm like, ain't no way, ain't nowhere,
ain't no way to run time gonna beat there no
eight o'clock. That's why we got about that, like six
thirty seven. But it's funny that you say that. That's
why what I do.

Speaker 5 (30:18):
My car shows at twelve to five, five o'clock early
while we start unloading them cars. People got things to do. Man,
nobody want to be on that late man. Absolutely right.
Eight hundred five A five one oh five to one.
We're asking what are you starting to dislike more as
you get older. I've seen this topic on our Hollywood
or locks loot to them, and that's what we're asking.
Eight hundred five A five one oh five one. It's

(30:39):
the Breakfast Clug Morning, the Breakfast Club.

Speaker 8 (30:44):
Owing everybody.

Speaker 5 (30:45):
It's DJ n Vjesseelari Charlamage, the Gud We are the
Breakfast Club.

Speaker 1 (30:49):
We got some special guests in the building from.

Speaker 5 (30:51):
The Not All Hood podcast, we have Malcolm Jamore Warner.
Where you see Baraka and Candice Kelly. Welcome, thank you, hey,
get to see you.

Speaker 1 (31:00):
How the brothers and sister feeling good life It's good yeah,
good morning. Yeah, that's about here, y'all just moved into
It was the first interview in our new studio. That's right. Wow, man,
I love the name not All Hood. Nah. Who came
up with that? That was what you'll see?

Speaker 13 (31:17):
Yeah, I don't even remember for real, for real, Like
I was just like, uh nah, Like Malcolm, I have
been talking about just the concept of the podcast and
how the diversity and who we are and also who
we're not, right, So I.

Speaker 1 (31:32):
Was like, nah, nah, Yeah, it feels like that when
somebody say all black people from the hood. Nah exactly.

Speaker 5 (31:40):
It's a term hood negative though when people say hood
sometimes it comes off as negative.

Speaker 1 (31:44):
I don't take it as a negative term. Is it
a negative term?

Speaker 7 (31:46):
No?

Speaker 10 (31:47):
And I think you know, part of the you know,
the idea of not All Hood is hood is not
a negative term. Hood is part of the community. Like
when we speak of the black community, we always tend
to refer to it as if it's a monol, that's right.

Speaker 1 (32:02):
But there are all these different.

Speaker 10 (32:03):
Lanes to the Black community, all these levels, all these
different lanes, and oftentimes we don't have a space where
we can actually you know, discuss, acknowledge and deal with
with all of those levels, all those lanes.

Speaker 1 (32:17):
So the hood is not a bad thing. Yes, we
are hood, but we're not.

Speaker 10 (32:21):
All hood and the media, and I think part of
it is the media tends to put more focus on
one aspect of the Black community. Thus we get all
the stereotypes and preconceived ideas, and.

Speaker 1 (32:33):
Hood comes from like neighborhood.

Speaker 12 (32:36):
I did get that question a lot though you have
being a podcast.

Speaker 1 (32:39):
Isn't hood negative?

Speaker 12 (32:40):
So I understand where you're coming from. But just like
they said, it's a neighborhood. I mean, I live in
a place where I'm next to a lot of Indian neighborhood,
Jewish neighborhood.

Speaker 1 (32:49):
You can still call it the hood.

Speaker 12 (32:51):
People also associate the word hood were just us, which yeah,
we're black.

Speaker 1 (32:57):
So it's just one of those things.

Speaker 12 (32:58):
It's it's kind of some damage that the media, the
pop culture, the.

Speaker 1 (33:02):
News has done and really trying to define who we are. Yeah,
I never took it as as negative.

Speaker 5 (33:07):
It was always on going back to the hood to me,
and I'm going back home to my neighborhood, right exactly
whoever it was, I'm going to play basketball in the hood,
which was my neighborhood, you know.

Speaker 8 (33:14):
I mean, I never took it as oh my gosh,
it's a place.

Speaker 1 (33:16):
No.

Speaker 5 (33:16):
I never took it as that. I know a lot
of people do, But that was always just like going home,
you know. Yeah, yeah, what are some of the topics
you guys will be discussing.

Speaker 1 (33:24):
Black fatherhood.

Speaker 13 (33:27):
Being older fathers with younger children.

Speaker 8 (33:31):
Yeah, how you guys handling that?

Speaker 1 (33:34):
Yo? What older? Your youngest?

Speaker 5 (33:37):
So youngest only one? We only have one because I
got a two year old, so Luke, and then I
got a twenty two year.

Speaker 1 (33:48):
Nine year old.

Speaker 5 (33:49):
Yeah, I got six, he got four, six and a
couple of weeks my youngest two.

Speaker 1 (33:54):
I got a two year old, five year old, year
old and fifteen. Yeah. Yeah, so y'all started around when
we started. Yeah, I'm fifty three and my daughter just
turned seven. Okay, Okay, So our whole conversation.

Speaker 13 (34:07):
Talking about yeah, like those those days where they be
on go go, you know what I mean, And you
gotta just wrap your energy up and make it happen.

Speaker 1 (34:14):
You know what I mean? Crazy you say that. My
homeboy told me that a long time ago. You know,
all my homeboys had kids way younger than I did.
And he was like, man, you're gonna wait till you
thirty plus forty to have kids. You're gonna be running around,
your needs gonna be hurting, like, no, we won't.

Speaker 12 (34:26):
Yes, they are exactly, But doesn't some good come with that?
You being older so speak Yeah, you know, being a
father and not being twenty one, I've been having growth
yourself that you have to go through.

Speaker 1 (34:38):
Oh yeah, my last my two youngest get a version
of me that did not exist right ten years ago,
ten years ago, you know, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 10 (34:46):
I spent more of my adult life in long term relationship,
more years of my adult life and long term relationships
than not. My wife and I have been together eight
and a half years, not more than two days to
go by. That I don't give thanks to the universe
for giving me the wisdom and forder to have waited

(35:07):
as long as they did.

Speaker 1 (35:08):
A lot of people are like, he's never gonna get married,
And I think at some point I probably thought like
we used to have these conversations like, Yo, they're looking
at us like we you know, damnage goods, Like you
mean you thirty down and you don't got no kids,
not married? He got a problem. Yeah, I mean it's
the best thing, and for me, it's the best thing.

Speaker 10 (35:24):
For I would not have I definitely would not have
been as effective a husband and father had I done
this any earlier with anybody else.

Speaker 1 (35:33):
That is such a great conversation you never hear men have,
Like that's a conversation you always hear, you know, women have.
But so so you actually waited, like you were actually
waiting for the right how many bullets since thirteen on TV?
Since thirteen? You know, I neeled my way out of

(35:58):
the lot. But your circumstance was different, though, because you
didn't know if people wanted to be with you already
wanted to be with you know what I mean.

Speaker 10 (36:06):
There was that because I've been doing it for so long,
I've been really blessed with a great sense of discernment.

Speaker 1 (36:13):
So that was never my issue. To be completely transparent.

Speaker 10 (36:18):
My thing about marriage was like, Yo, I'm not getting
married and then given a check half.

Speaker 1 (36:23):
Of my stuff because I messed up.

Speaker 10 (36:26):
So I was very clear that even though the threose
situations that you know, really you know, pressuring if you will,
you know, like that kind of marriage, I was like, nah,
because I knew me. I knew that I wasn't going
to because I wasn't I wasn't given half of my
trap because was I messed up about you.

Speaker 13 (36:46):
It was about just being patient, like I know me
and I know that, like everybody's gonna be able to
deal with me as a community organizer who really understands
that the people around me that are close to me
are gonna be okay. My work in life is to
make sure that other people are gonna be okay. So
sometimes I'm a little hard on them, people that are close. Right,
I'm gonna get out and like they're gonna have to

(37:06):
take a back seat sometimes, Right. That was part of it,
And the big part was like raising my child, the
idea of like me getting married and having a child.

Speaker 1 (37:13):
You gotta be special, man, We're you got to be special.
So I love you, Shelley. Yeah.

Speaker 12 (37:21):
With one show where we have these two and Lamar
Rucker and I just sit back and I listen, it's
like there could be some people that are taking notes,
some women that are taking notes because they really I
was like, this is some good, Like you said, I
don't hear that a lot, just talking about fatherhood and
just the humility and how proud they are, and then
all the rules and lessons that they learned and a

(37:43):
long way while they were dating.

Speaker 1 (37:46):
Yeah, it really was no taking moment. It was good.
You guys have.

Speaker 8 (37:49):
Boys or girls? Girls say oh yeah yeah, girl, Well.

Speaker 12 (37:52):
Said that was kind of suspect.

Speaker 1 (37:54):
Girls different. It's way different. He has four girl I
got full you know, you know I love it. Yeah yeah,
I love it and I deserve.

Speaker 4 (38:04):
It, you know.

Speaker 1 (38:05):
They say, yeah, yeah, yeah, all of it. How does
that change you?

Speaker 8 (38:11):
Having girls?

Speaker 5 (38:11):
I got four girls, Charlamagne as four girls? How does
that change you as a father? I got two boys too, though,
but the girls changeing.

Speaker 10 (38:17):
So I asked the universe for a girl first. Even
before conception, we were very clear we were having a girl.
And I know that I needed a girl first to
kind of ease me into it because I have a
pretty good idea of what kind of father I would be.

Speaker 1 (38:31):
So I needed a girl to kind of slow me
down and warm and softs me up. If you will.

Speaker 10 (38:36):
So for me raising my daughter, I came into fatherhood
already with a certain maturity, you know, certain understanding of
male female dynamics and with a girl, all of that
starts with the father. For me, the biggest gift that
I can give my daughter is a sense of self.

(38:56):
So when she goes out into the world, she is
not easy influenced by her surrounding. Right, So since she
was like two years old, you know, someone says to her, Oh,
you're so pretty, you're so cute, you're so beautiful, She'll
say thank you.

Speaker 1 (39:09):
When I'm smart too. That's how we run it.

Speaker 10 (39:12):
Like, that's the normalization I want her to have in
terms of how she sees herself in characters.

Speaker 13 (39:17):
Absolutely, yeah, way, same thing. Like you know, it's a
humbling space. Giving my daughter like a different kind of
vocabulary that's empowering to her so that when she interacts,
she knows she she walks and talks from posician power.

Speaker 1 (39:30):
Absolutely, you know, can you speak of that candidatey Yeah.

Speaker 4 (39:33):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (39:33):
I come from a.

Speaker 12 (39:33):
Family of three girls. All everything that he poured into me.
And you know, sometimes you're doing something and you're like, ooh,
that's my dad.

Speaker 1 (39:41):
What I did right there. That's my mom.

Speaker 12 (39:43):
Like you can you know when they've poured into it,
when you see you doing things that are just like
what they did and you don't even realize it. So
you don't even realize what the kids see and don't see.
But really, my parents really allowed me to see all
of the right things.

Speaker 1 (39:57):
They really did.

Speaker 5 (39:58):
We got more with Malcolm, Jamaal Warner, Candace Kelly and
why you See Baraka?

Speaker 1 (40:02):
When we come back from the No Podcast. It's the
Breakfast Club.

Speaker 5 (40:05):
Good Morning, Everybody's dj n V, Jesse Larie Chalamae, the
guy we are the Breakfast Club is still kicking them
with Malcolm, Jamore Warner, Candace Kelly and why you See Baraka?

Speaker 1 (40:14):
From the Not Oldhood podcast. Charlamone talking about you afraid
of being too honest and too vulnerable on these podcasts
because in this era people get very loose. Yeah, we've seen. Yeah,
if people have a certain image of you, do you
even care about that? That's so it's interesting. So you know,
I've said that in interviews that this is, you know,
the most vulnerable.

Speaker 7 (40:33):
Uh.

Speaker 10 (40:33):
And I've always been pretty transparent in my art, in
my poetry and music, but I don't I don't worry
about it. I got a good taste of it just
this week because we had our you know, first episode
dropped on Monday, and we were having conversation about the
N word, and I had a you know, I mixed
J Cole. Is really interesting how many people were not

(40:54):
listening to what I was saying and to my comments
as I was, you know, I was hating on J Cole.

Speaker 1 (41:01):
So it's things like that. And then the way the Instagram,
the art of dialogue and other Yeah, the way they
worded that's the where we in, right, So it was.

Speaker 10 (41:11):
Like, oh, right, this is the reason why I stopped
commenting on i G first thing in the morning.

Speaker 1 (41:17):
Malcolm says he stopped listening to J Cole.

Speaker 8 (41:20):
Yeah, let's play the people undertake.

Speaker 1 (41:24):
Like, what what are you talking about? You playing it
in context?

Speaker 8 (41:26):
In context, because I'm sure you don't have to clip off.

Speaker 1 (41:28):
You have a clip for me.

Speaker 10 (41:30):
In hip hop, I think the word is I think
should be this should be a moratorium on both of
those words in hip hop because it's low lying. Fruit
is so easy. Everybody does it to the point that
it's corny, Like they're mcens who I love, who I
cannot listen to anymore because I can't. I love J Cole,

(41:51):
but I had to stop listening to J Cole because
I got tired of hearing as much as because he's
proven himself to be such an incredible lyricist that you.

Speaker 12 (42:02):
Think it's if you think it's just too low hanging
fruit for him to use those words.

Speaker 10 (42:06):
I feel like with with the gratuitousness that he and
the regularity that he does for me, but as an artist,
it feels lazy. And I love J Cole, dig It,
dig It, so so many people, you know, they just
ignore the fact that I said I love J Cole,

(42:27):
and I said that most of my favorite MC's you know,
are guilty of the same thing we're talking about, you know,
perpetuating anti.

Speaker 1 (42:34):
Black messaging in our black music. So that was really
my point. Yeah, I don't understand that. That's when they
lose me. How is that anti? How is the N
word saying you don't like the N word anti black messaging?
Isn't the N word anti black? That's what I'm saying.

Speaker 10 (42:48):
My perspective is so much of our black music today,
like you take the dope beats away and you just
listen to the lyrics. Lyrically, it's anti black, you know
what I'm saying. And we talked about, you know, so
much of you know, hip hop today that's trash and whatnot.
But you know, as I said before, they grew up

(43:09):
listening to what we were listening to. Right, So we
are complicit in, you know, the parts of hip hop
today that we don't like because they grew up listening
to us. Listening listening to the content is the same.
The skill set is just whack. That's true, right, which
is what makes it stand out.

Speaker 13 (43:24):
And also they didn't listen to what we were listening to.
We listened to music when there was more than just
hip hop. Hip hop was not the juggernaut of music
that it is now. Like we like, yeah, you know,
like we was rocking to s Hall notes, right, you
know what I mean the eighties. Yeah, Like we had
these a lot of other influences that I think the

(43:45):
youth of today don't necessarily have.

Speaker 1 (43:47):
Yeah, turns of balance. Yeah. Would you say J Cole
had the anti black message?

Speaker 10 (43:50):
No, so so for me, because it has become the
staple and hip hop like it's got to be. That's
why I said in that clip. I think there should
be a moratorium on both of those works in hip
hop because at this point, it's corny, it's lazy.

Speaker 1 (44:04):
Everybody is using it.

Speaker 10 (44:05):
So let's like, you know, there are so many brilliant
writers and lyricists out there that it's like, come on,
let's let's let's stop our game. We don't have to
keep doing If everybody's doing it, then come on do
something different, you know. So my thing with with with
Ja Cole it just I just got to a point
where I got tired of hearing inward and being called
inWORD in every hip hop song I'm listening to. And

(44:27):
I mentioned J Cole because I love J Cole and
he's such and an incredible lyricist that when I hear
him just gratuitously use either those words, I'm like, ah,
I mean kind of a tune out doesn't mean doesn't
mean I like J Cole or respect his pen game
any less. I just go, all right, I'm kind of

(44:47):
I got to tune out because it's not bringing you,
it's not feeding me.

Speaker 1 (44:50):
But I also think I have a notion too, right,
I went to Hampton. When I used to drive to Hampton.
I'm listening to Norm because it's keeping me up.

Speaker 4 (44:55):
What what what?

Speaker 8 (44:56):
And I'm thinking I'm the biggest what.

Speaker 1 (45:00):
But then when you get a little older.

Speaker 8 (45:01):
You'd be like, that's a little noise.

Speaker 1 (45:03):
Right, let me talk about something like listening to it
when I'm working out from the south, like workout everything.

Speaker 5 (45:09):
Yeah, but I also grew up on Goodie Mob, you know,
and I think we've got more of a balance right
as we get older than one we've got, we've been
exposed to more music.

Speaker 13 (45:17):
It's it's a little different now, you know. I mean,
like they still in the in the throes of what's hot.
The how we access music is different now because they're
just like yo, you know, point click, not necessarily about
what's on the radio. It's about what they want to
listen to, which is and they've got direct access to that.

Speaker 4 (45:32):
You know.

Speaker 1 (45:32):
Don't want to ask from a woman's perspective, you know
what I find interesting, right? You know, we have these conversations,
but I will never forget Snoop Dogg and DMX's versus.
When they did their versus, I think it was during
COVID and I remember thinking, oh, this is going to
night that boy they finally listened to Snoop and DMX
and it's gonna be a woke cancel fest on Twitter.
But there was people in the comments, the same people
I usually see trying to cancel people loving it. But

(45:55):
how does that make you feel? Knowing you came up
in that era of the nineties is a conflicting No,
not at all.

Speaker 12 (46:01):
And I'm right in the middle with them in terms
of number one, the N word and just this whole
idea of music and what it represents, because I love
Wutang and when I listen to them, I get like
a good energy out, not just work out, but when
something goes wrong sometimes that music allows you to let
stuff out, you know that you just couldn't get out
in the day when you're with your peers or when

(46:21):
you're on the streets, you just in the car loud
with it. And then I also think it's how were
we brought up and what do we bring to the table.
So the N word, for example, I don't know how
you were introduced to it, ever, but that's shaped probably
what the word means to you, and same with me
probably saying to you. And we all have different things
that we bring to the table, just culturally, and I

(46:42):
think that just shifts, and I'm a firm believer in
the First Amendment, like all the way, because once you
start saying no here and no here, then I'm giving
somebody else the authority to say no to me one
day too.

Speaker 1 (46:53):
And I don't want that precedent.

Speaker 12 (46:54):
I don't want them saying, well, you can't say this
and you can't say that just because of the content
of it or the context of it.

Speaker 1 (47:02):
We don't like it at all.

Speaker 12 (47:03):
It's like when they try to bring up brack lyrics
when they go to jail in court, right, I mean,
that doesn't make any sense. We all have the same
equal First Amendment rights and you should fight for them
and use them equally.

Speaker 5 (47:14):
We got more with Malcolm, Jamol Warner, Candace Kelly and
while you see Baraka.

Speaker 8 (47:18):
When we come back from the NOD podcast.

Speaker 1 (47:20):
It's the Breakfast Club.

Speaker 5 (47:20):
Good Morning Morning, Everybody's DJ Envy Jess Hilarious, Chelamage to God.

Speaker 1 (47:25):
We are the Breakfast Club.

Speaker 5 (47:26):
We're still kicking them with Malcolm, Jamaol Warner, Candace Kelly
and while you see Baraka from the Not Old Hood podcast,
let me ask you a question. Yeah, TikToker, you got
seen online. She said the n word, right, she got
fired from her regular job.

Speaker 1 (47:37):
Oh, this was the girl who was cooking that young lady. Yes,
and in her comments she was also white by the way. Yes,
but that's a clinical thought. That's a critical context.

Speaker 8 (47:47):
But this is where I'm gonna close with.

Speaker 5 (47:49):
She said on her TikTok that she didn't apologize because
it was her first right amendment to say what she
wanted to say, and she shouldn't have got fired.

Speaker 8 (47:55):
What's your thoughts on somebody like that? It is her
first right amendment?

Speaker 1 (47:58):
Yeah, but then there are three to for rules.

Speaker 12 (48:00):
There's First Amendment rules on TikTok, there's First Amendment rules
at her work, and then there's her own rules of
what she believes about the in word, and all of
them conflicted, and.

Speaker 1 (48:08):
She got exactly what she deserves. She didn't. Then that's
what happened. That's why you do have to be careful
with it. You can't be on TikTok saying it. I mean,
this is a good examples.

Speaker 2 (48:17):
No person, No, no, you can't.

Speaker 12 (48:19):
So you just have to really understand how to use
the First Amendment to So for example, if you the KKK,
you can walk march anywhere in America.

Speaker 1 (48:26):
You just have to get the permit. You can't walk
on your own.

Speaker 5 (48:30):
You have to follow the rules.

Speaker 1 (48:31):
She didn't follow the rules. She didn't follow her own
HR rules at work, and that was her problem. That's right.

Speaker 5 (48:42):
Like you said, it's also where you came from, right,
because the N word was a sign of endearment.

Speaker 1 (48:48):
Sure, yes, it was that.

Speaker 8 (48:51):
You know, you really didn't hear the.

Speaker 5 (48:53):
Extremes of it until I went to Hampton in the South,
and you'll be like, oh no, they're not saying it.

Speaker 1 (48:57):
As right, right, right, right.

Speaker 7 (49:01):
Right.

Speaker 8 (49:01):
It's a different way.

Speaker 13 (49:02):
And that's sort of been part, you know, part of
my argument for a lot of people it's a term
of endearment, like it's love. There are more interactions that
are using the word that are about love and they
are about disrespect. So you know, and yes, we know
the history of it, we also know that that's mine.
You also said, we showed our culture out hip hop

(49:22):
industry wise. It's sort of the bigger picture, right because
they did it the jazz like they co opted it
and used it for their own purposes.

Speaker 10 (49:31):
But there wasn't messages and jazz that were going to
have an effect. I mean, black people see them right.

Speaker 13 (49:36):
I mean, yeah, I mean we sort ourself out. But
I also feel like from a macro perspective, the civil
rights movement created a lot of opportunities and it shifted
the mentality that made many of us very passive.

Speaker 1 (49:52):
Though. Yeah, I feel like I integrated my people into
a burning house. Into a burning house, right, we had.
It was more of a SENTI of independence, go deep,
It's okay, no argument, man.

Speaker 13 (50:07):
My godfather gonna call me and be like, young man,
it's heavyest a lot, and I'm like, ah, you got
me a pinch right now.

Speaker 10 (50:17):
I mean even, I mean, you know, there was a
term and hip hop artists talk about it when the
record labels say to them, this is what you have
to rap about, and this is what we're paying for
you to write.

Speaker 1 (50:27):
Right.

Speaker 10 (50:27):
And again, I say, in a lot of ways, we
are complicit in what we see. You know, the state
of hip hop and the younger generation. We allowed that happened.
And for the dollars, Tucker, I'm gonna get a T
shirt that says was right.

Speaker 1 (50:43):
You know. I had a couple of questions. I want
people subscribe to the podcast, but when it comes to
TV and movies, do you have the same discretion with
the N word and the B word.

Speaker 10 (50:51):
Yeah, you mean in terms of using it, in terms
of my use of it or the industry's use of
it both.

Speaker 1 (50:58):
So I think I am I'm against the gratuitous use
of the words.

Speaker 10 (51:03):
Like I understand all of the arguments and all of
the defending, but I think what's getting lost is I'm
referring to the gratuitous use of it. Sure, we can
talk all day about there are some circumstances where that
word is the only thing that really you know, So
I'm aware of all of that.

Speaker 1 (51:23):
But my issue was, I said, it's the.

Speaker 12 (51:25):
Gratuitous use of it, because I would imagine right that
if you get a tight script that takes place in
the nineteen sixties, well that script's don't have the N word, right,
So right, that's that's different. And that's what we talk
about a lot amongst the three of us, is that
it does have a place. We can't just erase that
of history, right, it has a place. You cannot do

(51:47):
certain things without the word coming up. It's just where
you place it in your own life, and that's where
you payeah.

Speaker 1 (51:54):
But I can't go do an August Wilson play period
to say you know what I'm saying. So I get
all of that.

Speaker 10 (52:02):
I think my issue is along with the I go
back to anti black messaging and our music, the gratuitous.

Speaker 1 (52:10):
Use of the N word. It's just you know, it's
just for me. I'm just like, you know, enough already.
And again I said enough already.

Speaker 10 (52:16):
But then I also go back to, you know, there's
so many incredible lyricists who have proven their pin game
is top notch, and I go, well, just like, elevate
this if all these corny and mothers are using in
all of their lyrics elevant like show them. And also
when we're in our forties and fifties still rapping the

(52:37):
same rapper in our twenties, It's like that's not even
you know, like like show me some growth, right, like
if you're not even giving me any integrity in your
art an evolution, evolution, Yeah, And I like I just
can't and it's not feeding my soul.

Speaker 1 (52:51):
I can't do it. I guess you do.

Speaker 4 (52:53):
Well.

Speaker 5 (52:53):
The podcast Not All Hood is streaming everywhere and I
appreciate you guys for joining us.

Speaker 8 (52:59):
Thank you, Malcolm Jamal Warner. Where you see Baraka and
Candae Kelly. Thank you guys so much.

Speaker 1 (53:05):
Thank you.

Speaker 8 (53:05):
It's the breakfast poke morning.

Speaker 10 (53:08):
Your execution on the Donkey of the day is something
to go.

Speaker 7 (53:10):
Hold for you to read.

Speaker 2 (53:13):
They gave me Dunky of other day, and I deserve
that people need to know what you need to tell them.

Speaker 1 (53:17):
I am you have the boy tell them it's time
for Don'tky of the day.

Speaker 3 (53:22):
It's a read.

Speaker 1 (53:23):
But you're so good at you're trying to charlamage what
he wants. Charlamagne, damn solomame. Who do you give the
dusky of today to name? Yes, Donkey today goes to
a woman named Michelle Young. She's forty six years old
and she's from Burlington, Iowa, Okay. She faces charges of
reckless use of fire, explosives, destructive devices, and possession of

(53:44):
drug for orophernilia. You know, earlier were talking about the
Collie Russell story and Calie Russell is on probation and
as part of her probation she has to go to
mental health counseling. And Jess, you said something I agree with.
Everything is in a mental health issue. Some people just
make poor choices. Yep. Very so I'm interested to hear
what you think about Michelle Young's situation. Did she make
a bad choice or is there something emotionally and mentally wrong.

(54:07):
Let's go to Casey RG ABC nine news for the report.
Please six.

Speaker 14 (54:10):
A Burlington woman is facing charges after police say she
set fire to a porch. According to a des Moines
County arrest affidavit, it happened just after four thirty pm
yesterday on Vineyard Street. Police say when they arrived on scene,
forty six year old Michelle Young was standing on the porch.
She told them a friend lived in the home, but
the resident who saw the incident on her home security

(54:32):
camera said she didn't know this woman at all and
had never seen her before. Young is charged with reckless
use of fire and possession of drug paraphernalia.

Speaker 1 (54:42):
What did that sound like? Mittal health, fishoes or just porchoise?
Let me give you to give you some information. Okay,
I'm gonna give you some more information. Michelle Young set
her friend's porch on fire because her friend didn't answer. Now,
full disclosure. This is how I be feeling when people
I love doing answer to the phone. When I know
my wife is home and she answer the phone, I'll
be wanting to set things on fire. When I call

(55:03):
jes Hilarius and she don't answer, but then I see
her back to back posting videos and pictures on her story.
I'd be wanting to set things on fire, but I
don't because I'm mentally and emotionally stable. Oh and one
more fun fact. Michelle Young said this was her friend's house,
but as you heard in the news report, she didn't
know this woman and the woman didn't know her. Would
you like to know some more details? Michelle Young told

(55:23):
officers she believed the home belonged to a friend. She
also said that she saw a sign that said which
is welcome, and because she was a witch she identifies
as a witch, she lit some items on fire, set
the porch on fire. Now, I don't know too many
people who have a sign in their yard that says
which is welcome? Unless it's Halloween. Was just a sign

(55:43):
that's been up since Halloween? Was there even really a sign?
And even though the sign says which is welcome? Welcome
to do?

Speaker 4 (55:49):
What?

Speaker 1 (55:50):
Now? Did the sign say you're welcome to commit arson?
Was it a fire sign? Meaning she was in aries
Leo Sagittarius. All I'm simply wondering is Jess, do you
think this woman needs some type of mental health counseling
or does she need an exorcism? Before you answer, would
you like to see her picture? Would you like to
see her picture? Nick zoom in on this? Oh? Okay, okay,

(56:13):
oh wow?

Speaker 2 (56:16):
Mentally ill and inorism, Yeah, because she's gonna need therapy
after to get the demon out of them.

Speaker 1 (56:23):
Is there a difference between demonic possession and mental disorder? See,
some of y'all need a psychotherapist, but some of y'all
need an exorcist. Okay, And that's the problem. That's the
issue we don't discuss enough, and that's demonic possession. You know.
I encourage y'all to go to therapy all the time,
but some of y'all don't just need a therapist. Y'all
actually need an exorcist. Okay. We love to say that

(56:44):
ain't nothing but the devil, but y'all don't even know
what the devil looks like. Look at this mug shot.
Look down. This woman looks like one version of five
different characters from the Wizard of Us. How can one
person simultaneously look like the Cowardly Line, the Scarecrow, Dorothy,
the Tin man and the wicked Witch of the West. Look. See,

(57:06):
when you dance with the devil, the devil does not alternate.
The devil changes you. You're not gonna tell me this
woman has not been changed. Okay, this woman did not
always look like Gary Owens. If he transitioned into gayl Owens.
She to give a little Gary, a little a lot
Gary's sister. It's either Gary sister or Gary. Okay, right,

(57:29):
Gary gonna get that Netflix special one way of you
hear me, Please give Michelle Young, the sweet childs of
the Hamilton.

Speaker 14 (57:36):
So you.

Speaker 1 (57:41):
Oh, the.

Speaker 3 (57:49):
Oh the day.

Speaker 1 (57:51):
Ye damn. Look at this today, sir. She looks like
the joke if the joker wanted to speak to a manager. Yeah,
she's Oh look look at this. She looks like she
holds a barbecue every January sixth Insurrection. This is Gary system.

(58:15):
I don't care what nobody says. He's a Gary, and
Gary said, you know what, I'm going to transition into
Gael and then I'm gonna get my first Netflix special.
God the Breakfast.

Speaker 5 (58:25):
Club Wing everybody in tej n V Jesse, Hilarry Charlamage,
the God. We are the Breakfast Club. We got a
special guest in the building, doctor West Bellamy.

Speaker 1 (58:35):
Welcome. What U bro? How you doing man? I'm good,
I'm good man. How you are we doing well? Good? Good? Man?
Appreciate you all having me up here, sir, with the man,
this man Charlamagne here that he's the man. But Lord,
if you're in politics, he is a hard friend to have.
Why is that? Why is he such a hard trying
to jump it onto I'm defending him non stop. That's
my man though, so you know I'm with him.

Speaker 7 (58:56):
Man.

Speaker 1 (58:56):
You know, one of the things I want to say
to you into the people as a whole, Like I
think I was just talking about this in the back.
I think people don't understand how much you read or
how politically astute you actually are, and also that you
speak to a different demographic than some quote unquote politicals
normally talk to because you are like a very strong
truth teller and speaking from a different demographic or speaking

(59:16):
to a different demographic, people are like, yo, what the hell?
But I want to make sure I give your flowers
Like yo, man, you I appreciate the working, what you
do for the community and speaking up and speaking for
a different perspective. But Lord, you had me at the
White House last night that Juneteenth. I felt like I
was twenty v one, like I was Drake. You know,
you should do doctor. You should tell all of them
people that love to be on the hill to come
with you in the hood. Now you actually, really, you

(59:38):
actually be out here touching the people and having conversations
with people, so you know what people are actually talking
about the same people that they claim to be speaking
for they don't speak too. It's real. I mean, I
don't think we can deny that in any capacity. I
mean the things in which we hear in our communities,
and again, I'm glad you all have us up here.
We're talking about one hundred black men, our sixteen city tour,

(59:58):
real men vote, where we're going to through all these
different cities, talking to black men about the importance of
voting and then being engaged. And literally we're hearing the
exact same things, not only that you all are saying
here on the radio, but things in which some people think,
oh that's just crazy, Like no, brothers and sisters for
that matter, are really believing these things. And we have
to do collectively a better job of educating our communities

(01:00:21):
in terms of just really what happens in voting on
the local, state, federal level. I saw Jasmine up here
the other day, and I really appreciate the way in
which she breaks down things, and we need more of that,
just real truth telling. And because we're not being as
honest as we should be in communicating and conveying our
message in a way to people who don't have doctorates

(01:00:43):
or they don't have law degrees, I think there's a
lot of misinformation that's going out and then people are
just more easy and acceptable or susceptible rather to the misinformation.
And I think right now the thing that frustrates so
many people is once again it feels like we're voting
out of fear. By the way, this is probably the
one time in my whole existence that we absolutely have

(01:01:05):
a reason to be truly scared about the end of democracy.
But they've been saying this for so long, it's like
now all they're offering once again is fear, right, right,
Like huh yeah, I mean, I think that's part of
the issue, that using fear and scared tactics as a
way to get people to be able to go and
do quote unquote what they believe to be the right thing.
After so long, you just become, you know, become numb

(01:01:28):
to it. But I do believe, honestly, and I'm being
very candid, that democracy, as you've often alluded to, is
under attack. And I think that not just democracy is
under attack, like our traditional or quote unquote regular way
of being could really be jeopardized if collectively all of

(01:01:48):
our communities, not just black folk, but all of our
communities don't go out and vote our best interests and
not vote misinformation, but again vote our best interests. And
my position is, like again, what we're doing with the
hundred black men and real men vote toward talking to
brothers about again, like why we have to be engaged
and more than anything else, yo, you can't afford to
just pretend is if things are just okay. And I

(01:02:10):
know that we don't always see the transitions in the
change from administration to administration to impact in the hood,
but that's also why we got to be engaged on
the local level and encourage brothers to run for office
for that matter.

Speaker 5 (01:02:21):
What do you tell to somebody who does not necessarily
like Donald Trump, but he also does not like Joe Biden?

Speaker 1 (01:02:27):
You know what I mean?

Speaker 5 (01:02:27):
And that's what we're seeing a lot of right, they're
not happy with the things that Joe Biden does in
the last four years, and they don't like Trump.

Speaker 1 (01:02:34):
So it's like, what do you tell those individuals when
in four Americans have an unfavorable view of both presidents
of both presidents. So me personally, I say, Yo, it's
not just about the people who are quote unquote and
the presidency. Like we have to talk about who's being
appointed to Supreme Court justice, who's being appointed to the
federal justices. Excuse me, I'm the appillate courts, who's being
able to have access to these state houses because parties

(01:02:56):
do play a major role. And then in addition to that,
when we talk about economics and resources being able to
be to flow through our communities, whether that be the
creation of black businesses and having the capital to be
able to start your black business, to be able to
maintain your black business, Like, all of those things are
mandated into a certain extent going to be supported based
off of who you elect in this presidential election. And Yo,

(01:03:20):
you can go and say you like whoever you don't like,
but again I always encourage people vote for your best interests.
And then in the congressional seats, which we have a
ton of different seats up this year. Send it side
on the House of Representative side. Congress is really who
pushes things through and if we need resources, if we
know we need resources, then there's no reason why again

(01:03:42):
we should be voting for people or persons who have
outwardly said they care very little about how we improve
as a people. When I look at the you know,
this is just me talking as one representative, as one individual. Now,
when I look at the Platinum Plan, the two page
Platinum Plan that that Donald Trump put forth a couple
of years ago, and I haven't seen thus far, because

(01:04:04):
I'm an independent, I haven't seen thus far Trump bring
forth any kind of plan or action plan for Black America,
whether that be on the economic side, whether that be
on the educational side, whether that be freedom and justice,
whether that be just criminal justice, reform, healthcare, women's rights,
so on and so forth. We haven't seen any plan.

(01:04:24):
So to me, it's very simple when we look at
who we should vote for. But I understand it whether
or not they will either the lead got pushed and
then came whether to lift every voice in the plan,
I'm not even yeah, I mean, yeah, but you ain't
got to say it like the day. You see what

(01:04:47):
I'm saying. That's what that's the problem, right, that is
the plan. So it's just as it sounds just as
ridiculous as the Platinum plan to lift every voice and
sing every Lift voice. But this song is what I'm saying.
This is what I'm talking about now, and then I'm
gonna get the calls after this, yoe. But here the

(01:05:08):
think I'm not that far off. No, like Lift, every
voice playing is the same difference. But I think, but
I think there is a fundamental difference. So the names
may be, you know, they the names of the bills
can be what they are, but the substance of the
two are very different. And and again for me, like
I'm not a quote unquote Biden apologist, but when I
look at them putting billions of dollars into student loan

(01:05:31):
debt relief, as an individual who just got his student loans, uh,
you got a lot rights down too. Yeah, two hundred
and eight thousand dollars. Wow, you know what I'm saying.
And I mean, even if you think about that there
in itself, I would have got three degrees, all three
of my degrees from HBCUs. Shout out to South Carolina State,
Mama Mater and Virginia State where I got my masters
of my doctorate and where'm the political science department chair now,

(01:05:52):
shout out the envy for coming to state last year,
to Virginia State last year. Yeah, come and talk to
the students. But like you know, again, for me to
get three degrees, it cost me two hundred and eight
thousan dollars. Like that's ridiculous there in itself. And the
fact that you have so many persons on the right
actively saying, Yo, there should be no student loan relief,
it's crazy when we know the biggest benefactors of student

(01:06:13):
loan relief are black volk So again, vote your interests. Now,
there will be people who say, like, well, nah, you
chose to take on that student loan debt. And that's true,
but education shouldn't cost that much no matter what. And again,
when we're talking about specifically, when I'm talking to brothers
around the country about yo, vote your interests, you're voting
for not just yourself, but for your children, your grandchildren,

(01:06:35):
your little cousins, your mentees, whomever. I wouldn't invite you
to go to Hampton, but I would, I wouldn't. No, Nah,
it's love, it's love. But you know again, man, we
have to vote our interests and that's important.

Speaker 5 (01:06:47):
We got more with doctor Wes Bellamy. When we come back,
don't move. It's to Breakfast Club.

Speaker 1 (01:06:50):
Good morning morning. Everybody is dj n V, Jesse Lyris
Charalamaine the God.

Speaker 5 (01:06:55):
We are to Breakfast Club. We're still kicking it with
doctor Wes Bellamy. Yes, sir, let's talk about the documentary.
Why is it documentary so important to make and for
people to see?

Speaker 1 (01:07:02):
Yeah, man, yeah, time to yell more than a statue
really telling the story of I think Charlottesville in some
regards have become a hashtag. People are like, yo, that's
the place where those crazy white people came with tiki torches.
But there's a lot more to it. I mean, we
had some very strong people within our community, black women,
specifically a shout out to my little sister, Zaiana Bryant.

(01:07:25):
She was fourteen years old writing a petition. You know
what I'm saying, saying, Yo, we got to get these
statues removed. People like Tanisha Hudson, you know, mayor and Nikayawaker.
Our first black female mayor. We had white people like
Kristin Sekos. You know, there was a lot of people
within our community who rallied together for us to be
able to do something in my personal opinion, that was monumental.

(01:07:47):
And then subsequently we saw across the country people using
literally our resolutions, like we had an elected officials group
chat and people like, yo, we'll send me that resolution,
and them getting their statues removed. And I think like
the power of quote unquote hate and even what we're
seeing right now with the far right movements and people
just being blatantly racist, like them coming to Charlottesville and

(01:08:09):
saying like, like with signs that Wes Bellamy, We're gonna
hang your black mass or like people come in and
saying like we're gonna destroy and kill anybody who fights
back against us as you try to move these statues,
and in the community saying like, nah, we're not having that.
We're gonna stand up, We're gonna speak up. It's a
powerful story, and you know, rest in peace to the

(01:08:29):
young sister the Hire who actually was killed on August twelfth.
I met her mom before met a mom, so so
you know what I'm saying, like when people, when people
lose their life fighting for this, and then again you
see the power and the beauty of people coming together
to say, yo, we're gonna fight back. We firmly believe
that right now, more than any time, it's a story
to be told. And if you want to vote for

(01:08:50):
the dude who said it's very fine, people on both
sides after people try to like kill me, kill my family,
kill you know, people actually kill someone, and I think
you need to think twice. Do you feel like the
events of Charlottesville is spoken about enough? I think it
depends on who you ask. I think again, for a
long time, we were more so like a hashtag, and
we really want to show again at our community as

(01:09:12):
much more than that. When you talk about spoken of enough,
For me, it doesn't really matter how people quote unquote
speak of it or speak of us. I firmly believe
that it's just important to do the work. But I
do think it's important for us to tell our story,
and there's a multitude of stories that could be told.
This documentary is really just telling it from my lens.
But there there are several people, as I alluded to,
you know, Zi and Nakaya and Tunisha, and you know

(01:09:34):
Charles Lewis and Will Jones, who's in the dock. You know,
he started a run club. We started this prolific run club.
Like it's a multitude of people and it's all intertwined,
and we're telling our own story, you know, and and
for us, you know, excuse me for me. Rather, I
think that you can have black folk Hill in that
particular way, you can have white folk Hill in that

(01:09:57):
particular way. And we don't always. I have to quote
unquote strive for unity. Like my thing is, let's strive
for respect, because if I respect you, then I won't
do any harm towards you. And if I won't do
any harm towards you, then I can value you and
we can move forward accordingly. And I think that's kind
of what we get across in this documentary. You're gonna
see brothers in the hood playing like in my basketball league,

(01:10:18):
the TONSA League. You're gonna see white people and black
people running together. You gonna see some really contentious moments
and of people, you know, getting it in and arguing
and fighting. But more than anything, we come out on top.
What is some some truths that black people need to
know before casting their vote in November because I you know,
and we had a good assistant Congresswoman and Crockett up here,

(01:10:39):
and I was telling her about one of my mentees
in Georgia who was watching her speak, and you know,
Congresswoman Crockett said, hey, y'all should go google what this
administration is done. That's why y'all don't know what they've done,
because it's so much. And I'm like, that's not good messaging, you.
I gotta go google line it. Yeah, yeah, yeah, I

(01:11:02):
mean it's real like and let me be clear again, y'all,
I'm not I'm not a surrogate of the administration.

Speaker 7 (01:11:08):
You know.

Speaker 1 (01:11:09):
Shout out to my man Trey Baker and and Antoine
c Right and you know, and even Congressman Clyodburn, they know,
like I send a message quick like yo, this is
some boy what y'all y'all want some. But I do
again believe in given credit what credit is due, like
the fact that the Biden administration has has meticulously and
strategically provided billions of dollars for not only student loan relief,

(01:11:31):
but provided uh, you know, over like two hundred million
dollars for black businesses to be skilled. I think that
there in itself is huge when we look at housing
and affordable housing, the work that you know, former Secretary
Marsha Fudge was doing in terms of the voucher system,
like I currently serve as the chair of our Housing
Authority Board, and like the HOOD, they've been doing some

(01:11:53):
good work in terms of being able to get resources
back in the hood and empower our people and not
only rib in public housing, but get out of public
housing home ownership.

Speaker 4 (01:12:04):
Like.

Speaker 1 (01:12:04):
They have tons of programs in that regard. I would say,
you know, the list does go on and on, but
it's not up to us quote unquote to tell those stories.
So when you ask me, like, what are some real truths, yo,
the administration has to do a better job, point Plank. Simple.
You look at the Republican side, yo, whether it may

(01:12:25):
not be a lot of substance, they gonna ride for
what they're doing and talk about the work in which
they believe in which they're doing or what they're fighting against.
It's usually not what they're doing, but it's about what
they're fighting against. I don't necessarily always see that on
the Democratic side, or I'll say that it doesn't receive
the same amount of attention because it's the way it's delivered,
sucks it's asked. But how come when you say that,

(01:12:46):
nobody get manage you? But when I say that World
War three on because one bru you Charlemagne and you
known for saying wow. But also I think that even
in again, in your political astuteness, you're holding individuals accountable
in a way in which they feel maybe shouldn't be
done right now because it's so close to the election.
I think that's really what the gripe is with individuals

(01:13:08):
with you, And it's some individuals because it's not a
multitude of people, because like yo, it's a lot of
people who feel the exact same way in what you
feel like you're speaking for a demographic of people who
at least mean when I'm in a hood every people
saying the same thing every day.

Speaker 8 (01:13:21):
Will tell them more. How they can see the documentary.

Speaker 1 (01:13:24):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, So I'm super excited. We're having a
special screening in Charlottesville, Virginia on Tuesday, June twenty fifth,
hosted by my dear sister, Simone Sanders, former mayor, and
the Kyle Walker, Will Jones, a few others who are
going to be on a talk pack afterwards, and then
after that, you know, we're looking to make sure people
can pick it up. Hopefully we'll have a distributor by
then and people will be able to see it any

(01:13:45):
and everywhere. But I think it's a pretty good body
of work and I'm looking forward to again people being
able to see it learn more about our city. And
then also from one hundred black men's side, we have
twelve more cities to go to with being talking to
black men about why it's important for us to vote.
We got a few things coming up and I'm looking
forward to y'all supporting and again, you know, man Charlemagne Envyes,

(01:14:05):
we really appreciate y'all supporting us. And I'm gonna say
one more thing about you real quick, like people don't
really get to know you, but I appreciate you always
being willing to share your platform and help our people out.
That means a lot in Envy. I don't think you
get the credit that you quite deserve in terms of
what you give back to our HBCU, specifically like your
HBCU a summer tour or a tour that you do

(01:14:27):
know what I'm saying in the in the spring. It
is really dope. And to see you come to my
school and those kids were talking about it forever, man,
that that really meant a lot.

Speaker 5 (01:14:37):
There you have it, doctor, It's the Breakfast Club. Good morning,
the Breakfast Club, Good morning everybody. It's DJ Envy Charlamagne
to God.

Speaker 1 (01:14:51):
We are the Breakfast Club. Charlam You got a positive note? Yes,
the positive note is simply this man. I said it
once during Donkey to Day. I want to repeat it.
When you choose an action, you choose the consequences of
that action. When you desire a consequence, you add dan, well,
better take the action that were created. Okay, we all
make choices, but in the end, our choices make us.
We are free to choose our paths, but we can't

(01:15:13):
choose the consequences that come with them. Breakfast Club, bitches,
you don't finish or y'all done.

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