In this episode of The Latest with Loren LoRosa, Loren reflects on her dynamic experience at Art Basel, celebrating the creativity, community, and cultural impact of Black artists. She discusses the importance of honoring your gifts, finding your place in creative spaces, and the power of artistic expression in shaping culture.
The conversation then shifts to Kehlani’s continued evolution—highlighting her growth as an artist, her transparency around mental health, and the complexities of maturing in the public eye. Loren also explores Pusha T’s recent announcement that he’s stepping away from diss tracks, breaking down what this artistic shift means for his legacy, hip-hop culture, and long-term career evolution.
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Speaker 1 (00:03):
And this is.
Speaker 2 (00:07):
All things pop culture and it's news room baby.
Speaker 1 (00:13):
So we are just getting back literally last night.
Speaker 2 (00:17):
I got back from Miami, not my first time in Miami,
of course, but my first time my art baso, which
was fire. I so outside of the event that I
went there to host, which was it was like an
art like a I was gonna say, like called art Brunch,
but it was a blend of art, culinary taste, jazz,
just a lot of good feeling in community put on
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by McDonald's.
Speaker 1 (00:40):
It was called Unk's Art House.
Speaker 2 (00:42):
And the reason why they call it Unk's Art House,
like the Unk is supposed to represent like you know,
the og in your family who got you know, all
the they have all the stories, all of the wisdom,
all of the jokes. Sometimes a little bit you know,
jokes a little go a little bit too far, but
they're just you know, that person that pulled up in
your family that is all about the family, all about community,
(01:04):
community and just brings the energy to the group chat,
brings the energy to the family function.
Speaker 1 (01:09):
And that's what it felt like. We had such a
great time.
Speaker 2 (01:12):
I really didn't know what to expect walking into it
because even in like our production prep they didn't really
tell us too much kind of about you know, what
to expect. We also throughout the venue there were a
ton of different black artists that were featured. I just
want to go through some of the artists because they
(01:33):
have you know, they partner with Art House Studios. It's
a R T E H A U s okay. Yeah,
so it's an art house and then they have art
House Studios, which is where which is where McDonald's showcased.
It's thirty incredible artists that they worked with throughout. So
my event was one event. They had several others. They
had a comedy show they which was like a comedy show, dinner,
(01:57):
then my brunch event that I hosted with Domit shouts
a dome Tu Domity, you guys know him from MTV.
Chef kwalm Chef Kwime of Tatiana was in the building
doing like the food.
Speaker 1 (02:07):
Remix for us.
Speaker 2 (02:09):
I got to try Cavyard for the first time. But
these artists were on display throughout all the events of
the weekend, So I just wanted to shout out some
of the artists that were on display. Because the artwork
all weekend, all of the artwork that I was running
into and getting a chance to see was just so
fire Like. I went to the Scope Like exhibit, which
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is actually on South Beach in Miami. I did that
right before my flight was over because I was like,
I can't be at art Bizol and not really get
a chance to like dive into some art exhibits and
man like the attention to detail and just I don't know,
like you look at a painting that someone did and
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how detailed it is almost looks like you know, a
lot of times these these pieces are coming off of
the canvas literally like you're you're living in this artwork
that you're looking and it just makes me just I
remember being in the exhibit being like this is how
you know God is real?
Speaker 1 (03:06):
Like you can't tell me God is not real.
Speaker 2 (03:08):
Because look at all this creativity, Like where else would
this flow from?
Speaker 1 (03:12):
But a higher power? Like it makes no sense.
Speaker 2 (03:15):
So some of the artists I wanted to just give
them a little mentioned Howard D. Simmons was featured, Shannie Crow,
Reina Norwija Relo.
Speaker 1 (03:28):
Maya Bailey.
Speaker 2 (03:30):
There was a fire Andre three thousand piece. Oh my god,
this piece is forty thousand dollars.
Speaker 1 (03:36):
Wow.
Speaker 2 (03:37):
So this Andre three thousand art piece of artwork that
I had seen when I got to our house. It
was probably like the first It wasn't the first piece
of art I saw when I walked in, but it
was the first one that made me stop and be like,
oh my god, look at this. How did they do this?
It's forty thousand dollars. It's being commissioned at forty thousand dollars.
It's called Color in the South. It's by Harold Claudio.
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And there's another one, a Big Boy by Harold Qualdiot
that is also forty thousand dollars. Oh my god. Then
there was another you guys got to check out this
artist as well. Her name is Raina Norwigi. I mentioned
her earlier.
Speaker 1 (04:11):
She has this painting of it's like a black woman
like taking over ocean Drive was the energy that I
got from it.
Speaker 2 (04:18):
The colors are so rich and fine. And she was
also one of the feature artists. So we're down in
Miami and South Beach hanging out. Things are going on,
and it just was a great time. So, you know,
McDonald's thank you guys for bringing me out. I got
a chance to, you know, really experience black excellence.
Speaker 1 (04:35):
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (04:36):
People say that and it's like so cliche when people
say that, but no, I got to really experience it.
I mean, the best of the best in art. I
met several entrepreneurs that you know, partner with McDonald's, people
who don't partner with McDonald's as well to Miss Kathy Hughes.
I talked about that a bit on The Breakfast Club.
So great time. Really a great time, and so many
people support the show on the podcast, So shout out
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to everybody that's listening that traveled from Miami with me
and are back here for our first episode after Basel,
so you know, checking it behind the scenes to the grind.
I'm feeling rejuvenated. I am feeling artistic, like creative. I'm
feeling like people have so much passion in the things
that they do, and people are so gifted. I left
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Art Basil feeling like I don't want to waste my
gift and I want to get out of my own way.
Speaker 1 (05:22):
I don't think I'm.
Speaker 2 (05:23):
In my own way a lot, but there are times
where like I'm not just I think we all go
through this as you know, whatever you do, an entrepreneur,
a career person, a creative a person that doesn't deem
myself a creative anybody with a goal or something you
want to achieve, you were always two hundred three hundred
percent worse on what it is yourself, like critiquing what
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it is that you're actually doing, when like I said,
I was seeing art this week and I was like,
this is nothing but God. And if it's if it's
in you, like it's you know, like it's in you,
like it's not on you, it's in you.
Speaker 1 (05:58):
All you gotta do is let it out. Just live
in it, do your thing, do your art, be consistent
about it, and get out the way.
Speaker 2 (06:05):
That's what I left Art Baso feeling like. So we're
checking in behind the scenes to the grind. That's where
I'm at with it, unless get on into the latest.
So kay Lannie was on the Breakfast Club, and tell y'all,
(06:27):
kay Lannie made it clear, Okay, it's kay Lannie, not Killannie.
Speaker 1 (06:32):
But she was on the Breakfast Club.
Speaker 2 (06:34):
And you know, I rarely react to our interviews unless
it was an interview that I feel like was just
either a really great conversation or there was conversation from
the interview that I think should continue other places. Now
let me tell y'all watching kay Lannie grow up in
front of the camera, because she started so young, like
I mean, she was seventeen, eighteen years old, you know
(06:58):
up there the star was out of here. Watching her
grow up in front of the camera has has been
one to watch. I will say at certain points it
has been kind of tough to watch. And we talked about,
you know, some of the points that I thought were
kind of tough for her, Like I remember when she
began having conversations about her sexuality. I remember when you know,
and this is more recent, but and we talked about
this as well. I remember when Kaylanie and her child's
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father were going through it, and you know, he accused
her of being in a cult, and you know, just
a lot of weird things surrounding their daughter. It was
pretty tough to watch because I think that Kaylannie, because
she has grew up in front of the world, grew
up in front of the camera.
Speaker 1 (07:37):
There have been a lot of moments where and she's
young too.
Speaker 2 (07:42):
So it's like not only she growing up in front
of all these things, but I think a lot of
time with the younger artists, what will happen is or
just younger people in the spotlight in general. What happens
is they're online with the fans arguing back and forth.
So there's been a lot of times where we've seen
Kaylani have to engage in back and forth online when
it comes to her and news reported around her, and
(08:04):
just different things that are happening that you know, I've
always watched and been like, damn, they push this through
it like they be putting her through it. And she
addressed that she talked to us just about what her
journey has been like over these last you know, a
couple of years, just figuring out that she needed some
help dealing with like bipolar disorder and what that really meant.
(08:27):
And I thought that this part of the interview was
such a good part of the interview because it was
so honest about her not even just realizing that there
was something wrong with her.
Speaker 1 (08:38):
I think the way she spoke.
Speaker 2 (08:39):
About it, because a lot of times when people you know,
have to come out and say like they're dealing with
bipolar disorder or whatever, like you know, in our community
or like just casually socially, when people talk about bipolar
it's just like, oh, you be moody, like It's almost
like the running joke, like, yo, she's bipolar.
Speaker 1 (08:56):
So to be an artist.
Speaker 2 (08:57):
That people don't always love to prop up the way
that they should and then have to, you know, get
on a platform like the Breakfast Club and be honest
about some of the moments that we've seen her go through.
Speaker 1 (09:08):
And she even said, like some of the moments she
was like out of it. Let's say, listen, when did
you realize I could be that vulnerable? And was it
a hard line to draw to be like do I
want to be this vulnerable?
Speaker 3 (09:17):
Do I want to share this experience?
Speaker 4 (09:19):
I think I've always been messally vulnerable, but I grew
up in front of the world. You know, everybody's been
seeing me doing interviews like this since I was nineteen
years old, and I think when you're viewing it on
the outside, it you kind of timestamp people like artists
get timestamped and whatever version of themselves stuck out to
the fan. So there's people who still view me as
(09:41):
something I went through when I was twenty four, and
like that's who they'll see me as forever. And when
you're twenty four at that time, you're also confidently speaking
in these interviews because You're like this who I am
right now? And I get it. Then ten years later
you're like, oh my god, I don't know who that person.
I mean, it hasn't been ten years for me, but
I'm thirty now and I'm looking back at things I
said when I was twenty four to twenty five, even
twenty seven, and I'm like, yikes, even a year ago,
I'm like, okay, like growth, I'm different now now.
Speaker 2 (10:04):
Kaylani has said she posted to her x account a
few hours ago, so this is breaking. She said, this
is one of the best interviews I've done in ages.
Speaker 1 (10:13):
Check it out.
Speaker 2 (10:14):
And to be honest with you guys, I really think
it's because so we talked to Kaylanni as the artist, right,
and when you get to talk about the music and
the performing and the you know, the microscope. She talked
about the microscope that she's often under and how that
is now that she's a mom. But I felt like
in the interview, Kaylani just was able to talk about
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things that Kaylani was interested in. And I think that's
the beauty of platforms that champion not just like you know,
topical things, but people, because she was able to come
there and just be a person and have a conversation
about the things that she's indebted to, like things that
she truly believes in her herd, things that she wants
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to stick up for no matter how much do people
drag her.
Speaker 1 (10:58):
She got into her poly sign calvern say and kind
of where that.
Speaker 2 (11:01):
Took her, and then the things that we're taking off
the table opportunity wise, when she spoke out, I think
she really just got the the platform in the space.
And not that you know, I can't speak for other places,
but I'd watched a lot of her interviews preparing for
this interview, and ever great think she's very personable. But
I do think that this interview, it was almost like
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by the time we got to talk about the music
for real, for real, it was time to go because
she had somewhere else to go. Because we talked about
just the world. And I think a lot of times,
like when you're talking about like art and we were
just talking about art baso, when you're talking about art
and artists and creators, I realize that every single time
I get the opportunity to just like go outside, and
(11:43):
I don't mean god'side, like we're standing on the couch
is I mean, like go and like experience life, how
much more it helps me and refreshes me and you know,
energizes me.
Speaker 1 (11:55):
But also the.
Speaker 2 (11:56):
More you experience, the more you grow and you learn.
And then and it's like now your artistic lens and
you as a person, you're speaking from a different place.
And I think right now, Caroline and her munch has
always been great, but I think right now, Kaylani, I
was gonna say, right now, she has the golden touch,
but her music has always been good. But I think
(12:17):
right now what we're seeing with her being able to say, Okay,
I got my mental and my emotions regulated, here's what
I'm not going for anymore.
Speaker 1 (12:25):
She came in a room like and it wasn't even
disrespectful nothing.
Speaker 2 (12:28):
It was just like, yo, I need to create this
space for myself, and I'm gonna tell y'all this is
not how you say my name. And I felt her
because you know, people be calling me everything under son,
Laura Lauren.
Speaker 1 (12:37):
They be spelling it wrong, and I mean I correct
people right in the moment.
Speaker 2 (12:41):
But yeah, the energy from the beginning was you know,
you come into somewhere and light your candles to get
you know, you home, you clean it. Given that from
the beginning of like, all right, let me set my energy.
And I think when you see a young star rise up,
someone who's as talented as she is, who's as successful
as she has been for all of this time, right,
(13:02):
you want them to get to this place where they
know how to come in and control, you know, and
sect their boundaries and also open up and have a conversation.
She was very comfortable, so we were able to talk
to her about a lot. Really enjoyed the conversation. But
when I saw that she had posted that she also
really enjoyed it. I was like, okay, yeah, like what
I was feeling in real time in that room. It
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felt like she was comfortable. It felt like she was
happy to be there talking too, like she would have
chose to be nowhere else, but they're talking about the
things she talked about.
Speaker 1 (13:32):
Love that for her.
Speaker 2 (13:34):
She has new music out outside of a Folded Got
Us in the choke Hold, but she does have new
music out as well too. The new song is called
out the Window, which is crazy because I feel like in.
Speaker 1 (13:45):
Folded, Kaylani is very accountable for either I'm done with this,
you got to get out of here. But wait, hold on,
did I make the right this is it? Am I
reacting too soon? Am I just all in my feelings.
Maybe we should sit down and talk. But out the
window Kailani is on the other side. Her clothes was folded.
She messed up, and she's very accountable to that.
Speaker 2 (14:08):
So the dynamics of the songs and the different dynamics
in the songs I think show not only like a
personal growth, but I thought it was interesting to see
her come from both elements and both songs be just
as good. Now, speaking of music artists and other news man,
I don't know if I am like celebrating this or
if I'm a little sad to see this era go.
(14:29):
But Push your t says that he is done with
dis tracks. He says that they're dead to him. So
he did a a written interview with an outlet Calt Consequence.
Speaker 1 (14:38):
They do TV, film, music, you know.
Speaker 2 (14:41):
All of the things, and they were having a conversation
with him and they got on the concept of dis
tracks because, I mean, Push your Tea can be rained
as one of the greatest when it comes to dissing
someone on a track. I mean, the story of added
on we wouldn't have known that Drake Kataki if it
wasn't for Pushing T in his commitment to destroying a
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person Bar Bye bar changing whips, change changing Whips, which
we know had some lines at Jim Jones Exodus twenty
three to one that was young Money Drake Lil Wayne
like he has and it goes on and on and
on like he you know who was the song where
he went at a Travis Scott, but Travis Scott tried
(15:24):
to go back at him and nobody really cared. And
then you also have so be It, which is on
the clips most recent project. So let's okay, let's talk
about what Push.
Speaker 1 (15:34):
Your Tea said.
Speaker 2 (15:35):
So Push your T in this interview said, it's kind
of dead to me. It's the ransom of what a
distract used to bring. There was a clear winner, somebody
would really bout out and then that's it. The last
man's standing. Now it's just a whole bunch of noise.
Even after we find the winners, it is still noise. And
it's like, man, then what is it for?
Speaker 1 (15:52):
I've kind of been through that chapter and I'm over
and I will say and so be It. Push Your
Tea was very grown about the way he spanked Travis Scott,
and I know when we talked to him at the
Breakfast Club speaking of breakfast club interviews, when we talked
to him at the Breakfast Club, and you know, I
saw some other interviews that he did, he talked about
(16:14):
his issue and he says that his issue was because
I think Push Your Tea.
Speaker 2 (16:21):
And his brother Malice, and you know, there are a
whole group of artists that are like this that they
come from an area and not even just come from an air,
but there are people that are morally built a certain
way and you expect that out of everybody you encounter,
but it don't happen in this But I think watching
Malice and Push Your Tea maneuver everything they did on
(16:43):
let God's sort them out, which is that most recent
album not their last album, like they're done. I think
that hearing him say he's done with this tracks is
I'm not surprised by it.
Speaker 1 (16:52):
Like there was a.
Speaker 2 (16:52):
Moment in our Breakfast Club interview where we were getting
into the whole so be it line and cause he
talks about, you know, having this video with Travis Scott
and he was going to share an ae it right,
and I'm like, like, well, what is the video?
Speaker 1 (17:07):
And he starts to go in and listen to this.
Speaker 3 (17:10):
And what pisched you off about Travis Scott so much
that you had to mention him on a recorde?
Speaker 1 (17:14):
What what what made you say? This isn't this nigga's
going too far? Ah?
Speaker 3 (17:17):
Man, It was just you know, it was just that uh,
that whole coming to uh coming to Paris. You know,
he came to Paris during one of our sessions, you know,
played his album and then he you know, when when
he left, the album comes out and you know the
record that he played, you know, had a verse up
there that was you know, going at p whatever the
case may be. And I'm like, damn, you just left,
(17:39):
Like how you how you leave here? You know, he
was on your album and then you're letting him, you know,
play your album for him, you're filming it, and then
you come back when the album drops you got a
verse you know, going at him. So I just thought
that was corny, and again, like, you know that's part
of the I think that's part of just trying to
leave all of that behind. And it's like, man, like
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that's the type of thing that happens over in that
yay world and it's okay, and they you know, it's
all right. They just brush it off and they be
friends and they go hang out together and then you know,
do whatever they do. Like that doesn't I didn't. I
didn't like that that was brought into this fold. YEAHA
one time they said that the verse, the drape verse
wasn't done as a yet it doesn't matter when it
(18:22):
was done. I don't care when it was done. You
you you added to it. You actually he actually had
a verse after that verse, so you you even added
to the verse.
Speaker 1 (18:31):
Like so what's proper etiquette for a situation like that?
Speaker 3 (18:34):
You just stay the hell away from me? Go way,
like I'm not I'm not into you anyway, Like I'm
not even into your swag and none of that, Like
it's not into none of it. So just stay away.
Speaker 2 (18:43):
And I think even right there, I mean, malice seems
like he's always pushed. I mean he if push your
T's going, Malice is going, like you know what I'm saying,
the hands down. But it does seem like that's the
balance between the two, like push your t is like
you gotta get him to that point.
Speaker 1 (18:58):
But once he's there, Oh, what's up?
Speaker 2 (19:00):
And Malice is kind of like, all right, I'm gonna
let you go, and I'm right here if you need me,
but we ain't gonna give them too much. And Malice
even said in this interview of Consequence that you know,
he talked about how you know, if you arguing with
too many clowns, people don't know what's the circus.
Speaker 1 (19:14):
You in the circus and you're doing all the things
you appearing like a clown too. So what they're.
Speaker 2 (19:18):
Basically saying is, at this point in their career and
what they've done, would let God sort them out.
Speaker 1 (19:22):
It's just elevated, and they want to stay elevated.
Speaker 2 (19:25):
Push Your Tea also said, I'm someone right now where
I don't even want to make music with other people. Nevertheless,
have anybody else in my music or be the focus
of my music.
Speaker 1 (19:34):
What we're doing right here with clips is to me,
so next level. I feel like the taste level is
above everything else. Great taste level on this project. The
way they rolled it out, all the looks, all the fashion,
everything was very effortless but very high brow. Push Your
Tea continues, even being caught up in the world of it.
I don't like even the world of people, of the
(19:55):
back and forth. If I don't see eye to eye
with you, there's probably things I don't want to be
there about, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2 (20:02):
And I think it just you know, got to a
point with him because he talked about it with Travis Scott.
It's like, you realize, these are not my type of people,
Like they're just not. It doesn't matter what I say,
what I do, how I treat them, how I maneuver.
These are not my type of people. And my type
of people I'm gonna keep around me and I'm gonna
protect them and everything else.
Speaker 1 (20:20):
I don't even want to be around that. I don't
even want to, you know.
Speaker 2 (20:23):
And this project felt very much that, like the few
subtle jabs that.
Speaker 1 (20:28):
Were mentioned, and it was very few firm between, but.
Speaker 2 (20:31):
It was a you know, it was s Pushy Tea knowledge,
so it was enough, very grown.
Speaker 1 (20:37):
But I don't know, I just.
Speaker 2 (20:40):
Because one thing Pusha Tea also told us in the
Breakfast Club interview that he did with us last was
that he got.
Speaker 1 (20:47):
A lot more saved up in the cut. He'd just
be he'd be sitting on things.
Speaker 2 (20:51):
It's kind of like, don't poke the bear and then
you poke them enough and then boom we find out
Drake got a baby. I don't know, guys, is this
a era that is, you know, never to come back again.
Does it take the right person for Push your Tea
to take, you know, very tastefully. You know, it'll be
with a nice little you know, great fabrics will be involved,
(21:12):
great food, great travel, great visuals, It'll be with all
of the things. But does it take the right person?
And what does that mean? Who is the person? What
is the you know, because there's been a few long
running Push of Tea beasts to get him back outside
in the trenches, as you know, ACG boots or whatever
(21:33):
they wear in VA. I don't know if you'll wear
of ACG boots and VA I just said that cuts
y'all close to Baltimore or DC strapped up? Does he
get back outsider? Do we think Push Your Tea is
no longer ever gonna? I wouldn't even say pick up
the pin at another artist because I think he's always
gonna probably pick up the pin. But will he ever
put another one in the chamber and let it fly?
Speaker 1 (21:52):
Will we ever get to hear it again. Let me
know what y'all think. I'm Laura Rosa. This is the
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Speaker 4 (22:04):
Baby.
Speaker 1 (22:06):
I tell you, guys, every episode, y'all could be anywhere
with anybody talking about all these things, with y'all right
here with me, and I appreciate you, guys. I'll catch
you in my next episode.
And this is.
Speaker 2 (00:07):
All things pop culture and it's news room baby.
Speaker 1 (00:13):
So we are just getting back literally last night.
Speaker 2 (00:17):
I got back from Miami, not my first time in Miami,
of course, but my first time my art baso, which
was fire. I so outside of the event that I
went there to host, which was it was like an
art like a I was gonna say, like called art Brunch,
but it was a blend of art, culinary taste, jazz,
just a lot of good feeling in community put on
(00:39):
by McDonald's.
Speaker 1 (00:40):
It was called Unk's Art House.
Speaker 2 (00:42):
And the reason why they call it Unk's Art House,
like the Unk is supposed to represent like you know,
the og in your family who got you know, all
the they have all the stories, all of the wisdom,
all of the jokes. Sometimes a little bit you know,
jokes a little go a little bit too far, but
they're just you know, that person that pulled up in
your family that is all about the family, all about community,
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community and just brings the energy to the group chat,
brings the energy to the family function.
Speaker 1 (01:09):
And that's what it felt like. We had such a
great time.
Speaker 2 (01:12):
I really didn't know what to expect walking into it
because even in like our production prep they didn't really
tell us too much kind of about you know, what
to expect. We also throughout the venue there were a
ton of different black artists that were featured. I just
want to go through some of the artists because they
(01:33):
have you know, they partner with Art House Studios. It's
a R T E H A U s okay. Yeah,
so it's an art house and then they have art
House Studios, which is where which is where McDonald's showcased.
It's thirty incredible artists that they worked with throughout. So
my event was one event. They had several others. They
had a comedy show they which was like a comedy show, dinner,
(01:57):
then my brunch event that I hosted with Domit shouts
a dome Tu Domity, you guys know him from MTV.
Chef kwalm Chef Kwime of Tatiana was in the building
doing like the food.
Speaker 1 (02:07):
Remix for us.
Speaker 2 (02:09):
I got to try Cavyard for the first time. But
these artists were on display throughout all the events of
the weekend, So I just wanted to shout out some
of the artists that were on display. Because the artwork
all weekend, all of the artwork that I was running
into and getting a chance to see was just so
fire Like. I went to the Scope Like exhibit, which
(02:29):
is actually on South Beach in Miami. I did that
right before my flight was over because I was like,
I can't be at art Bizol and not really get
a chance to like dive into some art exhibits and
man like the attention to detail and just I don't know,
like you look at a painting that someone did and
(02:50):
how detailed it is almost looks like you know, a
lot of times these these pieces are coming off of
the canvas literally like you're you're living in this artwork
that you're looking and it just makes me just I
remember being in the exhibit being like this is how
you know God is real?
Speaker 1 (03:06):
Like you can't tell me God is not real.
Speaker 2 (03:08):
Because look at all this creativity, Like where else would
this flow from?
Speaker 1 (03:12):
But a higher power? Like it makes no sense.
Speaker 2 (03:15):
So some of the artists I wanted to just give
them a little mentioned Howard D. Simmons was featured, Shannie Crow,
Reina Norwija Relo.
Speaker 1 (03:28):
Maya Bailey.
Speaker 2 (03:30):
There was a fire Andre three thousand piece. Oh my god,
this piece is forty thousand dollars.
Speaker 1 (03:36):
Wow.
Speaker 2 (03:37):
So this Andre three thousand art piece of artwork that
I had seen when I got to our house. It
was probably like the first It wasn't the first piece
of art I saw when I walked in, but it
was the first one that made me stop and be like,
oh my god, look at this. How did they do this?
It's forty thousand dollars. It's being commissioned at forty thousand dollars.
It's called Color in the South. It's by Harold Claudio.
(04:00):
And there's another one, a Big Boy by Harold Qualdiot
that is also forty thousand dollars. Oh my god. Then
there was another you guys got to check out this
artist as well. Her name is Raina Norwigi. I mentioned
her earlier.
Speaker 1 (04:11):
She has this painting of it's like a black woman
like taking over ocean Drive was the energy that I
got from it.
Speaker 2 (04:18):
The colors are so rich and fine. And she was
also one of the feature artists. So we're down in
Miami and South Beach hanging out. Things are going on,
and it just was a great time. So, you know,
McDonald's thank you guys for bringing me out. I got
a chance to, you know, really experience black excellence.
Speaker 1 (04:35):
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (04:36):
People say that and it's like so cliche when people
say that, but no, I got to really experience it.
I mean, the best of the best in art. I
met several entrepreneurs that you know, partner with McDonald's, people
who don't partner with McDonald's as well to Miss Kathy Hughes.
I talked about that a bit on The Breakfast Club.
So great time. Really a great time, and so many
people support the show on the podcast, So shout out
(04:56):
to everybody that's listening that traveled from Miami with me
and are back here for our first episode after Basel,
so you know, checking it behind the scenes to the grind.
I'm feeling rejuvenated. I am feeling artistic, like creative. I'm
feeling like people have so much passion in the things
that they do, and people are so gifted. I left
(05:17):
Art Basil feeling like I don't want to waste my
gift and I want to get out of my own way.
Speaker 1 (05:22):
I don't think I'm.
Speaker 2 (05:23):
In my own way a lot, but there are times
where like I'm not just I think we all go
through this as you know, whatever you do, an entrepreneur,
a career person, a creative a person that doesn't deem
myself a creative anybody with a goal or something you
want to achieve, you were always two hundred three hundred
percent worse on what it is yourself, like critiquing what
(05:46):
it is that you're actually doing, when like I said,
I was seeing art this week and I was like,
this is nothing but God. And if it's if it's
in you, like it's you know, like it's in you,
like it's not on you, it's in you.
Speaker 1 (05:58):
All you gotta do is let it out. Just live
in it, do your thing, do your art, be consistent
about it, and get out the way.
Speaker 2 (06:05):
That's what I left Art Baso feeling like. So we're
checking in behind the scenes to the grind. That's where
I'm at with it, unless get on into the latest.
So kay Lannie was on the Breakfast Club, and tell y'all,
(06:27):
kay Lannie made it clear, Okay, it's kay Lannie, not Killannie.
Speaker 1 (06:32):
But she was on the Breakfast Club.
Speaker 2 (06:34):
And you know, I rarely react to our interviews unless
it was an interview that I feel like was just
either a really great conversation or there was conversation from
the interview that I think should continue other places. Now
let me tell y'all watching kay Lannie grow up in
front of the camera, because she started so young, like
I mean, she was seventeen, eighteen years old, you know
(06:58):
up there the star was out of here. Watching her
grow up in front of the camera has has been
one to watch. I will say at certain points it
has been kind of tough to watch. And we talked about,
you know, some of the points that I thought were
kind of tough for her, Like I remember when she
began having conversations about her sexuality. I remember when you know,
and this is more recent, but and we talked about
this as well. I remember when Kaylanie and her child's
(07:22):
father were going through it, and you know, he accused
her of being in a cult, and you know, just
a lot of weird things surrounding their daughter. It was
pretty tough to watch because I think that Kaylannie, because
she has grew up in front of the world, grew
up in front of the camera.
Speaker 1 (07:37):
There have been a lot of moments where and she's
young too.
Speaker 2 (07:42):
So it's like not only she growing up in front
of all these things, but I think a lot of
time with the younger artists, what will happen is or
just younger people in the spotlight in general. What happens
is they're online with the fans arguing back and forth.
So there's been a lot of times where we've seen
Kaylani have to engage in back and forth online when
it comes to her and news reported around her, and
(08:04):
just different things that are happening that you know, I've
always watched and been like, damn, they push this through
it like they be putting her through it. And she
addressed that she talked to us just about what her
journey has been like over these last you know, a
couple of years, just figuring out that she needed some
help dealing with like bipolar disorder and what that really meant.
(08:27):
And I thought that this part of the interview was
such a good part of the interview because it was
so honest about her not even just realizing that there
was something wrong with her.
Speaker 1 (08:38):
I think the way she spoke.
Speaker 2 (08:39):
About it, because a lot of times when people you know,
have to come out and say like they're dealing with
bipolar disorder or whatever, like you know, in our community
or like just casually socially, when people talk about bipolar
it's just like, oh, you be moody, like It's almost
like the running joke, like, yo, she's bipolar.
Speaker 1 (08:56):
So to be an artist.
Speaker 2 (08:57):
That people don't always love to prop up the way
that they should and then have to, you know, get
on a platform like the Breakfast Club and be honest
about some of the moments that we've seen her go through.
Speaker 1 (09:08):
And she even said, like some of the moments she
was like out of it. Let's say, listen, when did
you realize I could be that vulnerable? And was it
a hard line to draw to be like do I
want to be this vulnerable?
Speaker 3 (09:17):
Do I want to share this experience?
Speaker 4 (09:19):
I think I've always been messally vulnerable, but I grew
up in front of the world. You know, everybody's been
seeing me doing interviews like this since I was nineteen
years old, and I think when you're viewing it on
the outside, it you kind of timestamp people like artists
get timestamped and whatever version of themselves stuck out to
the fan. So there's people who still view me as
(09:41):
something I went through when I was twenty four, and
like that's who they'll see me as forever. And when
you're twenty four at that time, you're also confidently speaking
in these interviews because You're like this who I am
right now? And I get it. Then ten years later
you're like, oh my god, I don't know who that person.
I mean, it hasn't been ten years for me, but
I'm thirty now and I'm looking back at things I
said when I was twenty four to twenty five, even
twenty seven, and I'm like, yikes, even a year ago,
I'm like, okay, like growth, I'm different now now.
Speaker 2 (10:04):
Kaylani has said she posted to her x account a
few hours ago, so this is breaking. She said, this
is one of the best interviews I've done in ages.
Speaker 1 (10:13):
Check it out.
Speaker 2 (10:14):
And to be honest with you guys, I really think
it's because so we talked to Kaylanni as the artist, right,
and when you get to talk about the music and
the performing and the you know, the microscope. She talked
about the microscope that she's often under and how that
is now that she's a mom. But I felt like
in the interview, Kaylani just was able to talk about
(10:35):
things that Kaylani was interested in. And I think that's
the beauty of platforms that champion not just like you know,
topical things, but people, because she was able to come
there and just be a person and have a conversation
about the things that she's indebted to, like things that
she truly believes in her herd, things that she wants
(10:55):
to stick up for no matter how much do people
drag her.
Speaker 1 (10:58):
She got into her poly sign calvern say and kind
of where that.
Speaker 2 (11:01):
Took her, and then the things that we're taking off
the table opportunity wise, when she spoke out, I think
she really just got the the platform in the space.
And not that you know, I can't speak for other places,
but I'd watched a lot of her interviews preparing for
this interview, and ever great think she's very personable. But
I do think that this interview, it was almost like
(11:23):
by the time we got to talk about the music
for real, for real, it was time to go because
she had somewhere else to go. Because we talked about
just the world. And I think a lot of times,
like when you're talking about like art and we were
just talking about art baso, when you're talking about art
and artists and creators, I realize that every single time
I get the opportunity to just like go outside, and
(11:43):
I don't mean god'side, like we're standing on the couch
is I mean, like go and like experience life, how
much more it helps me and refreshes me and you know,
energizes me.
Speaker 1 (11:55):
But also the.
Speaker 2 (11:56):
More you experience, the more you grow and you learn.
And then and it's like now your artistic lens and
you as a person, you're speaking from a different place.
And I think right now, Caroline and her munch has
always been great, but I think right now, Kaylani, I
was gonna say, right now, she has the golden touch,
but her music has always been good. But I think
(12:17):
right now what we're seeing with her being able to say, Okay,
I got my mental and my emotions regulated, here's what
I'm not going for anymore.
Speaker 1 (12:25):
She came in a room like and it wasn't even
disrespectful nothing.
Speaker 2 (12:28):
It was just like, yo, I need to create this
space for myself, and I'm gonna tell y'all this is
not how you say my name. And I felt her
because you know, people be calling me everything under son,
Laura Lauren.
Speaker 1 (12:37):
They be spelling it wrong, and I mean I correct
people right in the moment.
Speaker 2 (12:41):
But yeah, the energy from the beginning was you know,
you come into somewhere and light your candles to get
you know, you home, you clean it. Given that from
the beginning of like, all right, let me set my energy.
And I think when you see a young star rise up,
someone who's as talented as she is, who's as successful
as she has been for all of this time, right,
(13:02):
you want them to get to this place where they
know how to come in and control, you know, and
sect their boundaries and also open up and have a conversation.
She was very comfortable, so we were able to talk
to her about a lot. Really enjoyed the conversation. But
when I saw that she had posted that she also
really enjoyed it. I was like, okay, yeah, like what
I was feeling in real time in that room. It
(13:23):
felt like she was comfortable. It felt like she was
happy to be there talking too, like she would have
chose to be nowhere else, but they're talking about the
things she talked about.
Speaker 1 (13:32):
Love that for her.
Speaker 2 (13:34):
She has new music out outside of a Folded Got
Us in the choke Hold, but she does have new
music out as well too. The new song is called
out the Window, which is crazy because I feel like in.
Speaker 1 (13:45):
Folded, Kaylani is very accountable for either I'm done with this,
you got to get out of here. But wait, hold on,
did I make the right this is it? Am I
reacting too soon? Am I just all in my feelings.
Maybe we should sit down and talk. But out the
window Kailani is on the other side. Her clothes was folded.
She messed up, and she's very accountable to that.
Speaker 2 (14:08):
So the dynamics of the songs and the different dynamics
in the songs I think show not only like a
personal growth, but I thought it was interesting to see
her come from both elements and both songs be just
as good. Now, speaking of music artists and other news man,
I don't know if I am like celebrating this or
if I'm a little sad to see this era go.
(14:29):
But Push your t says that he is done with
dis tracks. He says that they're dead to him. So
he did a a written interview with an outlet Calt Consequence.
Speaker 1 (14:38):
They do TV, film, music, you know.
Speaker 2 (14:41):
All of the things, and they were having a conversation
with him and they got on the concept of dis
tracks because, I mean, Push your Tea can be rained
as one of the greatest when it comes to dissing
someone on a track. I mean, the story of added
on we wouldn't have known that Drake Kataki if it
wasn't for Pushing T in his commitment to destroying a
(15:02):
person Bar Bye bar changing whips, change changing Whips, which
we know had some lines at Jim Jones Exodus twenty
three to one that was young Money Drake Lil Wayne
like he has and it goes on and on and
on like he you know who was the song where
he went at a Travis Scott, but Travis Scott tried
(15:24):
to go back at him and nobody really cared. And
then you also have so be It, which is on
the clips most recent project. So let's okay, let's talk
about what Push.
Speaker 1 (15:34):
Your Tea said.
Speaker 2 (15:35):
So Push your T in this interview said, it's kind
of dead to me. It's the ransom of what a
distract used to bring. There was a clear winner, somebody
would really bout out and then that's it. The last
man's standing. Now it's just a whole bunch of noise.
Even after we find the winners, it is still noise. And
it's like, man, then what is it for?
Speaker 1 (15:52):
I've kind of been through that chapter and I'm over
and I will say and so be It. Push Your
Tea was very grown about the way he spanked Travis Scott,
and I know when we talked to him at the
Breakfast Club speaking of breakfast club interviews, when we talked
to him at the Breakfast Club, and you know, I
saw some other interviews that he did, he talked about
(16:14):
his issue and he says that his issue was because
I think Push Your Tea.
Speaker 2 (16:21):
And his brother Malice, and you know, there are a
whole group of artists that are like this that they
come from an area and not even just come from an air,
but there are people that are morally built a certain
way and you expect that out of everybody you encounter,
but it don't happen in this But I think watching
Malice and Push Your Tea maneuver everything they did on
(16:43):
let God's sort them out, which is that most recent
album not their last album, like they're done. I think
that hearing him say he's done with this tracks is
I'm not surprised by it.
Speaker 1 (16:52):
Like there was a.
Speaker 2 (16:52):
Moment in our Breakfast Club interview where we were getting
into the whole so be it line and cause he
talks about, you know, having this video with Travis Scott
and he was going to share an ae it right,
and I'm like, like, well, what is the video?
Speaker 1 (17:07):
And he starts to go in and listen to this.
Speaker 3 (17:10):
And what pisched you off about Travis Scott so much
that you had to mention him on a recorde?
Speaker 1 (17:14):
What what what made you say? This isn't this nigga's
going too far? Ah?
Speaker 3 (17:17):
Man, It was just you know, it was just that uh,
that whole coming to uh coming to Paris. You know,
he came to Paris during one of our sessions, you know,
played his album and then he you know, when when
he left, the album comes out and you know the
record that he played, you know, had a verse up
there that was you know, going at p whatever the
case may be. And I'm like, damn, you just left,
(17:39):
Like how you how you leave here? You know, he
was on your album and then you're letting him, you know,
play your album for him, you're filming it, and then
you come back when the album drops you got a
verse you know, going at him. So I just thought
that was corny, and again, like, you know that's part
of the I think that's part of just trying to
leave all of that behind. And it's like, man, like
(18:00):
that's the type of thing that happens over in that
yay world and it's okay, and they you know, it's
all right. They just brush it off and they be
friends and they go hang out together and then you know,
do whatever they do. Like that doesn't I didn't. I
didn't like that that was brought into this fold. YEAHA
one time they said that the verse, the drape verse
wasn't done as a yet it doesn't matter when it
(18:22):
was done. I don't care when it was done. You
you you added to it. You actually he actually had
a verse after that verse, so you you even added
to the verse.
Speaker 1 (18:31):
Like so what's proper etiquette for a situation like that?
Speaker 3 (18:34):
You just stay the hell away from me? Go way,
like I'm not I'm not into you anyway, Like I'm
not even into your swag and none of that, Like
it's not into none of it. So just stay away.
Speaker 2 (18:43):
And I think even right there, I mean, malice seems
like he's always pushed. I mean he if push your
T's going, Malice is going, like you know what I'm saying,
the hands down. But it does seem like that's the
balance between the two, like push your t is like
you gotta get him to that point.
Speaker 1 (18:58):
But once he's there, Oh, what's up?
Speaker 2 (19:00):
And Malice is kind of like, all right, I'm gonna
let you go, and I'm right here if you need me,
but we ain't gonna give them too much. And Malice
even said in this interview of Consequence that you know,
he talked about how you know, if you arguing with
too many clowns, people don't know what's the circus.
Speaker 1 (19:14):
You in the circus and you're doing all the things
you appearing like a clown too. So what they're.
Speaker 2 (19:18):
Basically saying is, at this point in their career and
what they've done, would let God sort them out.
Speaker 1 (19:22):
It's just elevated, and they want to stay elevated.
Speaker 2 (19:25):
Push Your Tea also said, I'm someone right now where
I don't even want to make music with other people. Nevertheless,
have anybody else in my music or be the focus
of my music.
Speaker 1 (19:34):
What we're doing right here with clips is to me,
so next level. I feel like the taste level is
above everything else. Great taste level on this project. The
way they rolled it out, all the looks, all the fashion,
everything was very effortless but very high brow. Push Your
Tea continues, even being caught up in the world of it.
I don't like even the world of people, of the
(19:55):
back and forth. If I don't see eye to eye
with you, there's probably things I don't want to be
there about, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2 (20:02):
And I think it just you know, got to a
point with him because he talked about it with Travis Scott.
It's like, you realize, these are not my type of people,
Like they're just not. It doesn't matter what I say,
what I do, how I treat them, how I maneuver.
These are not my type of people. And my type
of people I'm gonna keep around me and I'm gonna
protect them and everything else.
Speaker 1 (20:20):
I don't even want to be around that. I don't
even want to, you know.
Speaker 2 (20:23):
And this project felt very much that, like the few
subtle jabs that.
Speaker 1 (20:28):
Were mentioned, and it was very few firm between, but.
Speaker 2 (20:31):
It was a you know, it was s Pushy Tea knowledge,
so it was enough, very grown.
Speaker 1 (20:37):
But I don't know, I just.
Speaker 2 (20:40):
Because one thing Pusha Tea also told us in the
Breakfast Club interview that he did with us last was
that he got.
Speaker 1 (20:47):
A lot more saved up in the cut. He'd just
be he'd be sitting on things.
Speaker 2 (20:51):
It's kind of like, don't poke the bear and then
you poke them enough and then boom we find out
Drake got a baby. I don't know, guys, is this
a era that is, you know, never to come back again.
Does it take the right person for Push your Tea
to take, you know, very tastefully. You know, it'll be
with a nice little you know, great fabrics will be involved,
(21:12):
great food, great travel, great visuals, It'll be with all
of the things. But does it take the right person?
And what does that mean? Who is the person? What
is the you know, because there's been a few long
running Push of Tea beasts to get him back outside
in the trenches, as you know, ACG boots or whatever
(21:33):
they wear in VA. I don't know if you'll wear
of ACG boots and VA I just said that cuts
y'all close to Baltimore or DC strapped up? Does he
get back outsider? Do we think Push Your Tea is
no longer ever gonna? I wouldn't even say pick up
the pin at another artist because I think he's always
gonna probably pick up the pin. But will he ever
put another one in the chamber and let it fly?
Speaker 1 (21:52):
Will we ever get to hear it again. Let me
know what y'all think. I'm Laura Rosa. This is the
latest with Laura Rosa. This Giti Deli didg gonna all
things pop culture, entertainment, news and all of the conversations
that shake the room.
Speaker 4 (22:04):
Baby.
Speaker 1 (22:06):
I tell you, guys, every episode, y'all could be anywhere
with anybody talking about all these things, with y'all right
here with me, and I appreciate you, guys. I'll catch
you in my next episode.
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