August 14, 2026 • 20 mins
Loren LoRosa is breaking down the latest headlines, starting with a new development in the ongoing Remy Ma and Papoose drama: a cease and desist over Remy’s viral freestyle. Loren explains what Papoose’s legal team is demanding, why they want the track and related content removed, and whether that’s even possible once something has taken over the internet.
Then, Loren dives into the complicated and emotional surrogacy case involving a surrogate mother, intended parents and a baby born with a serious heart condition. With a legal and custody battle now unfolding across state lines, Loren explores the difficult questions surrounding surrogacy agreements, parental rights and the choices families face when serious medical issues are discovered during pregnancy.
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Speaker 1 (00:02):
I'm a homegrow that knows a little bit about everything
and everybody.
Speaker 2 (00:06):
You know, if you don't lie about that, right, hang out?
Speaker 3 (00:10):
What's up?
Speaker 1 (00:11):
It's Laura Rosa and this is another episode of the
Latest with Laura Rosa. This is your daily dig of
all things pop culture, entertainment, news and all of the
conversations that shake the room.
Speaker 3 (00:22):
Baby.
Speaker 1 (00:24):
So you guys know, we always kick off the show
checking in behind the scenes of the Grind. And this weekend, yeah,
it's gonna be a pretty active weekend for me. I
am heading into a content shoot that I'm actually just
now getting back around to being able to like continually
(00:45):
do so early on, what I would do is every month,
at least twice out of the month, I would shoot
like photo shoots, whether it was images that I'd be
shooting for the Brown Girl Grinding that we have at
Broncoorande dot com, or if it was just like lifestyle stuff,
so like everyday stuff out and about just whatever only
(01:08):
because a lot of like brandale stuff and like, you know,
when you're working and trying to build in a social
media space as a person that works basically as an influencer.
Speaker 3 (01:17):
Even though I don't like that word.
Speaker 1 (01:19):
A lot of it is they want the brands want
to see you doing what you're trying to tell you're
trying to sell them on that you can be paid
to do. So I've always been pretty consistent at like
making sure that like we shoot a lot, like and.
Speaker 3 (01:31):
Recently I've been sucking at that.
Speaker 1 (01:33):
Like I it's just hard sometimes trying to keep up
with like everything that's happening at one time. And I'm
be honest, the weekends where I don't have to like
get up and go anywhere for work or do anything,
I just want to eat good and go to sleep
and watch TV. Like I'm already thinking about with this
shoot coming up this weekend, and I'll make sure I
get some behind the scenes for you guys, so you
(01:55):
guys can kind of hear us live in action as
we're figuring out the images and if you want to
see the final images, they will end up making it
to my Instagram that's Lauren the Rosa Everywhere l o
r e N l o r O SA. A lot
of these images will also be able to be used
across like you know, my YouTube channel for new imaging
and new branding. And then whenever I'm like booked for stuff,
(02:18):
so speaking panels, speaking engagements, panels, keynote things like whatever.
I have more images to send out for that as well.
I be wanting to be home and I'm already thinking
about dam were about to be there from like nine
to six, and then like my brother's coming into town
to help do some of the behind the scenes. I'm
just hoping that people just want to go home after
(02:40):
the shoot, or that they're tired too and they don't
want to do much of anything. But when I say
gearing up, I mean like there's a lot of like
prep that goes into it. So we are pulling outfits,
we're pulling shoes, call sheets, we're figuring out our shot
lists and all the things we want to capture.
Speaker 3 (02:56):
I gotta get my hair done.
Speaker 1 (02:57):
Like there's a lot people people really try to make
social media and building your brand, not even just on
social media, but like building your brand aesthetically if you're trying,
and it matters for me, Like you know, I want
to build in the fashion world. I want to build
in the beauty and the glen world as far as
like makeup and hair, and eventually I would love to
have my own brands there but I want to start
(03:19):
the conversation now, especially because I feel like right now
people care so much, like they'd be all in my
all in my closet about the clothes, the outfits, where
we're going, and I appreciate it, even though sometimes I'd
be wanting to cuss people's kids out, not literally people's kids,
but like y'all grown folks being in the comments with
all these things to say, and I'm like, Yo, you're
like forty, aren't you at work? Why are you worried
(03:41):
about me and what I put on a day around
my slim ways, baby won't way?
Speaker 3 (03:44):
Okay? Is that why y'all here?
Speaker 1 (03:46):
But I do feel like the conversation being centered around
like fashion and beauty and branding for black women right now?
Speaker 3 (03:54):
Are we on a up? Like there's so much.
Speaker 1 (03:56):
Money in those areas, billions and billions of dollars that
are spent, and we are literally the center of that universe.
So I'm coming from my piece of the pie. So yes,
getting back on the wagon of being consistent with stuff
like that. So make sure y'all look out for the
looks and the photo shoot that we'll be posting, and
you guys may see some of these photos featured in
some magazines. I'll let y'all know, though, So let's get
(04:21):
on into the latest now. Now, speaking of being all
into people's business and who in the business and.
Speaker 3 (04:28):
Who got what to say?
Speaker 1 (04:30):
Oh my god, there has been a new character has
entered the chat in this Pat poos in remy Ma
back and forth, and this character is a cease and desist. Okay,
they'd be like, choose your fighter right Like, I don't
know if you guys know that's saying, but it's basically
like you playing a video game, and there's all these
characters in different fits and different looks you can choose from,
(04:51):
and every time you throw a fighter in the game,
it's a whole new battle and a whole new thing
and a whole new level or conversation of the game
that you're playing. Up. Pet Poofs has shot off a
cease and desist to remy Ma. For background, for those
of you guys who may not know, remy Ma and
Pat Poofs have were together. They were together for about
(05:11):
twenty some years married. They are supposed to currently be
going through a divorce, but that has been that's been
an ongoing thing for what almost a years. So now
let me see when did Petpoofs file for divorce? Pet
Poofs filed for divorce from Remy Ma. Oh yeah wow
May twenty twenty five. So in his cease and desist,
(05:35):
pet Poofs is saying that Remy Ma, can they want
this free style of go away? He says that this
music is a direct, profane, insulting, and highly negative piece
of remarks toward pet poos. That's what his attorney is
saying in a legend in this letter. Now they're also
(05:56):
saying that at some point there has been discussion about
a non disclosure on both sides, like they were, I
guess both legal teams, Remy's legal team and Pappoose's legal
team have been sitting and having discussions about what a
non disclosure looks like and what the provisions around that
would be, especially because they have a child in all
of this, you know who will.
Speaker 3 (06:17):
Probably grow up one day and see and hear some things.
Speaker 1 (06:22):
But yeah, so there's been conversations, nothing signed, according to
this document, but this discussions about the NDA and Pepposse's
attorney in this season desist is like the you know,
the actions following this song have been the complete opposite
of what we discussed when we came up with this
non disclosure, talking about them not being able to disparage
each other, especially being as though their child will see
(06:44):
this one day.
Speaker 3 (06:45):
So they want everything removed. They want to.
Speaker 1 (06:48):
Make it where where Remy is not at all able
to publish, post record or disperse of defamatory, harassing or
disparaging statements concerning pet poofs. And then the attorney request
that the video the offending material be removed without delay.
(07:10):
So they want it scrubbed from the internet. They want
it taken down. But here's the thing. First of all,
once time hits the internet, it has the life of
its own. When Remy did this song, I want you
to hear the parts that they're saying are.
Speaker 3 (07:23):
Insulting.
Speaker 1 (07:24):
So this is the part where Remi ma is talking
about pet poofs and she's saying that like his action
or lack their over the bedroom and all that, let's.
Speaker 3 (07:31):
Take hold you doing the most over.
Speaker 4 (07:33):
So so Dick got bit her since I was wearing
bobos bitch you get a bullet through your shirt with a.
Speaker 1 (07:38):
Logo with Then Remima addresses the allegations which you know
have been mentioned by Pappoos previously that Pat Poos would
write her music.
Speaker 3 (07:48):
Let's take a listen to that, the.
Speaker 4 (07:50):
Third nigga claiming that they vote those hits when their
whole career. They ain't never ghost folks shit, not for
me or anybody else. You always zact and like you
help a nigga, go help you.
Speaker 1 (07:59):
Now, there's another part of this freestyle that remy My
talks directly to Clarissa Shields. But when she performed this
freestyle recently a few weeks ago, I was at Angie
Martinez's barbecue. She performed the freestyle there. She actually inserts
Pep's name. She called, well they call him pepoofs. I
mean his name is Petpoos if they call him pap
She inserted Pep into the live performance.
Speaker 3 (08:21):
Let's take a listen. Things on the internet have a
life of her own.
Speaker 1 (08:28):
There's no way she'll be able to scrub every little
post about this freestyle. It's it's going too crazy. First
of all, it's just a good record. Like people actually
like the song. It plays like crazy. I live in
New York. I'm I'm here in New York running around
in New York. It plays like crazy in the clubs,
that's number one. They play it like crazy on the
radio stations, all of them here. I don't know about
(08:51):
wherever you guys look at, but it's going crazy here.
Speaker 3 (08:53):
And a lot of that is because.
Speaker 1 (08:55):
They're here, like they are New York artists, but also
the people on the internet love it too. Remy did
it and dropped it because everybody was doing the hyu
fn li and freestyles. Hers just happened to throw a
couple of shots their way. But the platform she dropped
it on, it's.
Speaker 3 (09:10):
Been so viral. I don't even know how you would
possibly do that.
Speaker 1 (09:14):
I mean, I'm sure there are companies and agencies that
can attempt to, but it's out of here literally.
Speaker 3 (09:23):
Now. I guess we just wait to see what happens
from here.
Speaker 1 (09:30):
I have no statements at all from Remy's team, and
this is one of them things where you do just
have to wait to see what happens from here. Because
pat Buz's attorney closes his letter with saying that, you know,
if these things are not abided by, he can move
forward with legal action and you know, request any damages
for defamation, especially or in addition to that, those requests
(09:53):
for them defamation remedies or you know, to be compensated
for that. They can also as for legal fees and
different things to be covered as well too, So we'll
see what happens. Let's shift gears a bit to a
story that has become a national news story at this point.
So that's a woman in this woman, she's a surrogate.
(10:17):
She is from Alaska. Her name is McKenna West, so
mckenno West. She became a surrogate for a couple that
is from California but wanted to have a baby. And
when she got pregnant with the baby, they found out
at twenty weeks that the doctors that doctors, they found
out at twenty weeks per doctors that the baby suffered
(10:38):
from hypoplastic left heart syndrome. So this is a very
rare birth defect where the left side of your.
Speaker 3 (10:44):
Heart does not grow correctly.
Speaker 1 (10:47):
Now they say at birth the baby would have needed
three surgeries to correct certain things right, and I do
know that the baby was born, you know that is
the new reports. Now here's the issue the family from California,
once they found out about that birth defect and the
quality of life that the baby would live or lack thereof.
Speaker 3 (11:09):
They didn't want to have the baby anymore.
Speaker 1 (11:10):
They wanted to abort the baby, and according to the
sarrogracy agreement, they had a clause that allowed the couple
to choose to terminate the pregnancy if there was any
anomaly found, any issue found right. So McKenna refused to
do the abortion and she fled state. She went to Texas,
where she would be legally seen as the birth mother.
(11:30):
This is insane because I feel like when you go
into a surrogracy, there's so much we talk about legal
stuff and legal letters and all that, like, there's so
much legality to so many different things. But when you
go into a surrogacy situation, you never think about someone
trying to find loopholes in the fact that they're your
surrogate and want to keep the child even though you don't.
So McKenna was due to give birth on September second,
(11:53):
but delivered the baby it's a baby boy, and named
him Gabriel on Wednesday in Dallas, so that would have
been about a week or so after her actual due date. Now,
McKenna's attorney her this is a person that goes by
the name of Lincoln Wilson is the one who gave
the update that she delivered the baby and she's now
the baby's birth mom. That's another thing you don't intend
(12:13):
on either, because normally when women are as surrogates, they
have mentally I've always wondered that though, like how does
that work? But they have mentally accepted the fact that
they're going to be carrying this baby, feeling the life
of the baby and all these things, but this is
not their baby. I've literally always wondered how a woman
could go through nine months of carrying a baby, feeling
(12:34):
the baby grow, the heartbeat, having those little intimate moments,
talking through the bait, talking to the baby, because you still, like,
even though you know it's not your child, you're not disattached.
The babies literally in your body, and you're having to
go through that and a lot of times, like I've
seen stories of parents who do their baby through surrogates
and they're super super hands on, so of course they're
(12:54):
at like every doctor's appointment, they you know, as much
as they can so they can act. She'd be a
part of the pregnancy phase of it, but the connection
is still probably way different.
Speaker 2 (13:05):
Didn't it, Sorry, didn't Chloe Kardashian say.
Speaker 3 (13:09):
Like, yeah, he had a hard time.
Speaker 1 (13:10):
Yeah, Chloe, Chloe did a surrogate for one of her
interest in children. Janet Jackson. No, no, no, no, Jenna
Jackson carried her baby, didn't she.
Speaker 2 (13:19):
Yeah, pregnant, We just never seen what the baby looked like.
Speaker 1 (13:25):
Yeah, I'm sorry now, Yeah, Janet Jackson carried her baby. Yep,
her baby boy. I think I thought she was a girl. No,
her baby boy. His name is Issa Almana. He was
born in January twenty seventeen with her husband at the time.
But she gave birth at fifty years old. So I
(13:46):
remember when she got pregnant.
Speaker 3 (13:49):
Did she do IVF?
Speaker 1 (13:51):
She would have had to at that age, right, necessarily
let me see it was something wasn't completely hold on
natural hold on. Oh yeah, I do remember the So yeah,
she's never publicly confirmed whether she used IVF at all
when she became pregnant with her first child. She kept
(14:12):
all of that stuff private, but because of her age,
a lot of people just assume that that's what it was.
So that, yeah, it wasn't a surrogate, but it was
the other like the other option of IVF for people
that are not able to get pregnant. But yeah, I
just often always wondered, like what is that like, like
being so attached to something in your body and in disattachchent.
(14:35):
I've also always wanted that too with people who put
kids up for adoption, I do feel like if you
don't want to be a parent, if you're not in
the mental you know position or you know, even if
it's financial, whatever the case may be. I believe in
adoption only because I feel like babies deserve good homes
and kids, like they don't ask to be here, so
they do deserve that. But I always wondered how difficult
(14:55):
that was to just give your kids, like have your
kid just you know, floating in this this system of
like let me pick and choose if I want to
become your parents when they have natural born parents.
Speaker 2 (15:10):
You also or people also don't talk about like when
I was breastfeeding, because is the Sarah gate gonna be
breastfeeding too, because.
Speaker 5 (15:19):
You literally feel like I felt when my baby needed
food or was crying. Like it's a weird sensation that
you get, but like you feel like.
Speaker 2 (15:34):
The baby needing your breast milk.
Speaker 3 (15:36):
But if you're if you.
Speaker 1 (15:40):
Would still feel and had breast Mike and all that
because the baby. But I just feel like Sarah gets
signed up for that, like there's a disattachment that you
have to sign up for.
Speaker 2 (15:51):
That's an interesting career, Like I don't.
Speaker 3 (15:56):
That's a lot according to reports the babies.
Speaker 1 (16:01):
When it comes to the baby's health condition, all that
I can find so far is that those surgeries, those
life sustaining medical surgeries and care that were needed are
happening and the baby is still currently hospitalized. However, there's
been a temporary restriction put on the surrogate, mom McKenna,
so she can't see or hold the baby as the
(16:24):
multi state legal and custody dispute between the surrogate and
the intended parents proceed.
Speaker 2 (16:28):
How can they do that.
Speaker 1 (16:29):
Though, because at the end of what I think they're
going to probably try and argue. I'm not for sure,
but listening to this because she went to Texas where
she had that researched, So there has to be some
sort of clause for surrogates in Texas right when it
comes to making that decision. That's why she went there.
But whereever she was, wherever that contract is deemed like
(16:52):
we're doing this in the state of whatever, and I'm
assuming it's California. Those legal rights might protect the actual parent,
but a judge, because this is now a legal matter,
and a judge is gonna basically say, hey, right now,
we just want to make it where all things halt.
But legally and according to whatever contractor situation they have,
(17:15):
those are that baby's parents. So until wee get that's
that is a This is like a do's a big movie?
This is like a movie. I feel I was gonna
say I would never want to choose to do a surrogate,
but I know most women who choose surrogacy. It's not
normally just because they just don't want to carry their baby.
There's normally like medical things or like something where they
(17:37):
literally can't do it. So I also on the other
side of it, just the mental and emotional side of it,
for you know, the baby's actual parents. I feel bad,
like cause it's like you have to mentally go through
already like you weren't able to carry your own baby
as his mom right, and then you find out that
(17:58):
he will potentially a birth defects. And I know a
lot of parents you know this, that's not an unnormal
thing like people, more times than we know, are presented
with the option to not move forward with having their
actual child because of the birth defects in the quality
of life or lack there of that will happen. So
you're going through all of that decision making mentally and
(18:19):
emotionally after not being able to I don't even know
the full situation with as surrogancy, like why they chose
to do a surrogate, but all of those emotions, and
then on top of that, now you have to deal
with a whole nother phase of emotions because your baby's here.
The way he came into the world, the legal fight
you're gonna have to go through is so public now,
like it's crazy.
Speaker 3 (18:38):
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (18:39):
I wish everyone in this situation the best because I
think the surrogate mom was trying to make it save a.
Speaker 3 (18:48):
Life, like there are a lot of people who don't believe.
Speaker 1 (18:50):
In abortion once a child is you know, past a
certain point, or you know, if there's a whole lot Lord,
I don't know wish I don't even know what to
wish everybody the best or prayers or I mean, because yo,
another layer of this is like the baby is still
going through all these life saving surgeries, so that poor
(19:10):
baby is also going through so much, is fighting to
be here in this world right now. And that's a
whole other thing that both sides are gonna have to
deal with because obviously the surrogate has grown an attachment
to the baby, attachment to the baby, and obviously the
parents are like this, that's their baby regardless, and they
don't the parents don't want the baby though, well they
didn't want I don't even think it's always the thing
(19:32):
of the parents don't want the baby.
Speaker 3 (19:33):
I think it's the.
Speaker 1 (19:34):
Your risk you're thinking about if I bring my baby
into this world and he has to live this way,
Do I want my child to have to go through that?
And if you have the choice to not, then sometimes
people choose not to.
Speaker 2 (19:46):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (19:48):
Yeah, this has been another episode of The Latest with
Laura the Rose of Guys. We will definitely this this
surrogacy case. We're gonna follow this. I'm interested to see
how this all plays out. And you know, just from
a legal breakdown pspective, I'm interested to see what this
woman's Oh maybe we can get her attorney on the podcast.
Speaker 3 (20:05):
We should do that.
Speaker 1 (20:06):
I'm every child because I'm very interested to see where
her legal defense is going to be.
Speaker 3 (20:10):
I'm sure that's going to be something.
Speaker 1 (20:11):
They found a loophole of some sort in that different
in Texas that she did, you know that she fled to.
I don't know if they'll talk to me right now
because they ain't a thick of it, but we'll try.
Speaker 3 (20:21):
This has been another episode of the Latest with Lona Rosa.
Speaker 1 (20:23):
I tell you, guys, every single episode, y'all could be
anywhere with any old body talking about all of the things.
Speaker 3 (20:30):
Child, but y'all choose to be right here with me,
my lowriders.
Speaker 1 (20:33):
I appreciate you, guys, and I'll catch you in my
next episode.
I'm a homegrow that knows a little bit about everything
and everybody.
Speaker 2 (00:06):
You know, if you don't lie about that, right, hang out?
Speaker 3 (00:10):
What's up?
Speaker 1 (00:11):
It's Laura Rosa and this is another episode of the
Latest with Laura Rosa. This is your daily dig of
all things pop culture, entertainment, news and all of the
conversations that shake the room.
Speaker 3 (00:22):
Baby.
Speaker 1 (00:24):
So you guys know, we always kick off the show
checking in behind the scenes of the Grind. And this weekend, yeah,
it's gonna be a pretty active weekend for me. I
am heading into a content shoot that I'm actually just
now getting back around to being able to like continually
(00:45):
do so early on, what I would do is every month,
at least twice out of the month, I would shoot
like photo shoots, whether it was images that I'd be
shooting for the Brown Girl Grinding that we have at
Broncoorande dot com, or if it was just like lifestyle stuff,
so like everyday stuff out and about just whatever only
(01:08):
because a lot of like brandale stuff and like, you know,
when you're working and trying to build in a social
media space as a person that works basically as an influencer.
Speaker 3 (01:17):
Even though I don't like that word.
Speaker 1 (01:19):
A lot of it is they want the brands want
to see you doing what you're trying to tell you're
trying to sell them on that you can be paid
to do. So I've always been pretty consistent at like
making sure that like we shoot a lot, like and.
Speaker 3 (01:31):
Recently I've been sucking at that.
Speaker 1 (01:33):
Like I it's just hard sometimes trying to keep up
with like everything that's happening at one time. And I'm
be honest, the weekends where I don't have to like
get up and go anywhere for work or do anything,
I just want to eat good and go to sleep
and watch TV. Like I'm already thinking about with this
shoot coming up this weekend, and I'll make sure I
get some behind the scenes for you guys, so you
(01:55):
guys can kind of hear us live in action as
we're figuring out the images and if you want to
see the final images, they will end up making it
to my Instagram that's Lauren the Rosa Everywhere l o
r e N l o r O SA. A lot
of these images will also be able to be used
across like you know, my YouTube channel for new imaging
and new branding. And then whenever I'm like booked for stuff,
(02:18):
so speaking panels, speaking engagements, panels, keynote things like whatever.
I have more images to send out for that as well.
I be wanting to be home and I'm already thinking
about dam were about to be there from like nine
to six, and then like my brother's coming into town
to help do some of the behind the scenes. I'm
just hoping that people just want to go home after
(02:40):
the shoot, or that they're tired too and they don't
want to do much of anything. But when I say
gearing up, I mean like there's a lot of like
prep that goes into it. So we are pulling outfits,
we're pulling shoes, call sheets, we're figuring out our shot
lists and all the things we want to capture.
Speaker 3 (02:56):
I gotta get my hair done.
Speaker 1 (02:57):
Like there's a lot people people really try to make
social media and building your brand, not even just on
social media, but like building your brand aesthetically if you're trying,
and it matters for me, Like you know, I want
to build in the fashion world. I want to build
in the beauty and the glen world as far as
like makeup and hair, and eventually I would love to
have my own brands there but I want to start
(03:19):
the conversation now, especially because I feel like right now
people care so much, like they'd be all in my
all in my closet about the clothes, the outfits, where
we're going, and I appreciate it, even though sometimes I'd
be wanting to cuss people's kids out, not literally people's kids,
but like y'all grown folks being in the comments with
all these things to say, and I'm like, Yo, you're
like forty, aren't you at work? Why are you worried
(03:41):
about me and what I put on a day around
my slim ways, baby won't way?
Speaker 3 (03:44):
Okay? Is that why y'all here?
Speaker 1 (03:46):
But I do feel like the conversation being centered around
like fashion and beauty and branding for black women right now?
Speaker 3 (03:54):
Are we on a up? Like there's so much.
Speaker 1 (03:56):
Money in those areas, billions and billions of dollars that
are spent, and we are literally the center of that universe.
So I'm coming from my piece of the pie. So yes,
getting back on the wagon of being consistent with stuff
like that. So make sure y'all look out for the
looks and the photo shoot that we'll be posting, and
you guys may see some of these photos featured in
some magazines. I'll let y'all know, though, So let's get
(04:21):
on into the latest now. Now, speaking of being all
into people's business and who in the business and.
Speaker 3 (04:28):
Who got what to say?
Speaker 1 (04:30):
Oh my god, there has been a new character has
entered the chat in this Pat poos in remy Ma
back and forth, and this character is a cease and desist. Okay,
they'd be like, choose your fighter right Like, I don't
know if you guys know that's saying, but it's basically
like you playing a video game, and there's all these
characters in different fits and different looks you can choose from,
(04:51):
and every time you throw a fighter in the game,
it's a whole new battle and a whole new thing
and a whole new level or conversation of the game
that you're playing. Up. Pet Poofs has shot off a
cease and desist to remy Ma. For background, for those
of you guys who may not know, remy Ma and
Pat Poofs have were together. They were together for about
(05:11):
twenty some years married. They are supposed to currently be
going through a divorce, but that has been that's been
an ongoing thing for what almost a years. So now
let me see when did Petpoofs file for divorce? Pet
Poofs filed for divorce from Remy Ma. Oh yeah wow
May twenty twenty five. So in his cease and desist,
(05:35):
pet Poofs is saying that Remy Ma, can they want
this free style of go away? He says that this
music is a direct, profane, insulting, and highly negative piece
of remarks toward pet poos. That's what his attorney is
saying in a legend in this letter. Now they're also
(05:56):
saying that at some point there has been discussion about
a non disclosure on both sides, like they were, I
guess both legal teams, Remy's legal team and Pappoose's legal
team have been sitting and having discussions about what a
non disclosure looks like and what the provisions around that
would be, especially because they have a child in all
of this, you know who will.
Speaker 3 (06:17):
Probably grow up one day and see and hear some things.
Speaker 1 (06:22):
But yeah, so there's been conversations, nothing signed, according to
this document, but this discussions about the NDA and Pepposse's
attorney in this season desist is like the you know,
the actions following this song have been the complete opposite
of what we discussed when we came up with this
non disclosure, talking about them not being able to disparage
each other, especially being as though their child will see
(06:44):
this one day.
Speaker 3 (06:45):
So they want everything removed. They want to.
Speaker 1 (06:48):
Make it where where Remy is not at all able
to publish, post record or disperse of defamatory, harassing or
disparaging statements concerning pet poofs. And then the attorney request
that the video the offending material be removed without delay.
(07:10):
So they want it scrubbed from the internet. They want
it taken down. But here's the thing. First of all,
once time hits the internet, it has the life of
its own. When Remy did this song, I want you
to hear the parts that they're saying are.
Speaker 3 (07:23):
Insulting.
Speaker 1 (07:24):
So this is the part where Remi ma is talking
about pet poofs and she's saying that like his action
or lack their over the bedroom and all that, let's.
Speaker 3 (07:31):
Take hold you doing the most over.
Speaker 4 (07:33):
So so Dick got bit her since I was wearing
bobos bitch you get a bullet through your shirt with a.
Speaker 1 (07:38):
Logo with Then Remima addresses the allegations which you know
have been mentioned by Pappoos previously that Pat Poos would
write her music.
Speaker 3 (07:48):
Let's take a listen to that, the.
Speaker 4 (07:50):
Third nigga claiming that they vote those hits when their
whole career. They ain't never ghost folks shit, not for
me or anybody else. You always zact and like you
help a nigga, go help you.
Speaker 1 (07:59):
Now, there's another part of this freestyle that remy My
talks directly to Clarissa Shields. But when she performed this
freestyle recently a few weeks ago, I was at Angie
Martinez's barbecue. She performed the freestyle there. She actually inserts
Pep's name. She called, well they call him pepoofs. I
mean his name is Petpoos if they call him pap
She inserted Pep into the live performance.
Speaker 3 (08:21):
Let's take a listen. Things on the internet have a
life of her own.
Speaker 1 (08:28):
There's no way she'll be able to scrub every little
post about this freestyle. It's it's going too crazy. First
of all, it's just a good record. Like people actually
like the song. It plays like crazy. I live in
New York. I'm I'm here in New York running around
in New York. It plays like crazy in the clubs,
that's number one. They play it like crazy on the
radio stations, all of them here. I don't know about
(08:51):
wherever you guys look at, but it's going crazy here.
Speaker 3 (08:53):
And a lot of that is because.
Speaker 1 (08:55):
They're here, like they are New York artists, but also
the people on the internet love it too. Remy did
it and dropped it because everybody was doing the hyu
fn li and freestyles. Hers just happened to throw a
couple of shots their way. But the platform she dropped
it on, it's.
Speaker 3 (09:10):
Been so viral. I don't even know how you would
possibly do that.
Speaker 1 (09:14):
I mean, I'm sure there are companies and agencies that
can attempt to, but it's out of here literally.
Speaker 3 (09:23):
Now. I guess we just wait to see what happens
from here.
Speaker 1 (09:30):
I have no statements at all from Remy's team, and
this is one of them things where you do just
have to wait to see what happens from here. Because
pat Buz's attorney closes his letter with saying that, you know,
if these things are not abided by, he can move
forward with legal action and you know, request any damages
for defamation, especially or in addition to that, those requests
(09:53):
for them defamation remedies or you know, to be compensated
for that. They can also as for legal fees and
different things to be covered as well too, So we'll
see what happens. Let's shift gears a bit to a
story that has become a national news story at this point.
So that's a woman in this woman, she's a surrogate.
(10:17):
She is from Alaska. Her name is McKenna West, so
mckenno West. She became a surrogate for a couple that
is from California but wanted to have a baby. And
when she got pregnant with the baby, they found out
at twenty weeks that the doctors that doctors, they found
out at twenty weeks per doctors that the baby suffered
(10:38):
from hypoplastic left heart syndrome. So this is a very
rare birth defect where the left side of your.
Speaker 3 (10:44):
Heart does not grow correctly.
Speaker 1 (10:47):
Now they say at birth the baby would have needed
three surgeries to correct certain things right, and I do
know that the baby was born, you know that is
the new reports. Now here's the issue the family from California,
once they found out about that birth defect and the
quality of life that the baby would live or lack thereof.
Speaker 3 (11:09):
They didn't want to have the baby anymore.
Speaker 1 (11:10):
They wanted to abort the baby, and according to the
sarrogracy agreement, they had a clause that allowed the couple
to choose to terminate the pregnancy if there was any
anomaly found, any issue found right. So McKenna refused to
do the abortion and she fled state. She went to Texas,
where she would be legally seen as the birth mother.
(11:30):
This is insane because I feel like when you go
into a surrogracy, there's so much we talk about legal
stuff and legal letters and all that, like, there's so
much legality to so many different things. But when you
go into a surrogacy situation, you never think about someone
trying to find loopholes in the fact that they're your
surrogate and want to keep the child even though you don't.
So McKenna was due to give birth on September second,
(11:53):
but delivered the baby it's a baby boy, and named
him Gabriel on Wednesday in Dallas, so that would have
been about a week or so after her actual due date. Now,
McKenna's attorney her this is a person that goes by
the name of Lincoln Wilson is the one who gave
the update that she delivered the baby and she's now
the baby's birth mom. That's another thing you don't intend
(12:13):
on either, because normally when women are as surrogates, they
have mentally I've always wondered that though, like how does
that work? But they have mentally accepted the fact that
they're going to be carrying this baby, feeling the life
of the baby and all these things, but this is
not their baby. I've literally always wondered how a woman
could go through nine months of carrying a baby, feeling
(12:34):
the baby grow, the heartbeat, having those little intimate moments,
talking through the bait, talking to the baby, because you still, like,
even though you know it's not your child, you're not disattached.
The babies literally in your body, and you're having to
go through that and a lot of times, like I've
seen stories of parents who do their baby through surrogates
and they're super super hands on, so of course they're
(12:54):
at like every doctor's appointment, they you know, as much
as they can so they can act. She'd be a
part of the pregnancy phase of it, but the connection
is still probably way different.
Speaker 2 (13:05):
Didn't it, Sorry, didn't Chloe Kardashian say.
Speaker 3 (13:09):
Like, yeah, he had a hard time.
Speaker 1 (13:10):
Yeah, Chloe, Chloe did a surrogate for one of her
interest in children. Janet Jackson. No, no, no, no, Jenna
Jackson carried her baby, didn't she.
Speaker 2 (13:19):
Yeah, pregnant, We just never seen what the baby looked like.
Speaker 1 (13:25):
Yeah, I'm sorry now, Yeah, Janet Jackson carried her baby. Yep,
her baby boy. I think I thought she was a girl. No,
her baby boy. His name is Issa Almana. He was
born in January twenty seventeen with her husband at the time.
But she gave birth at fifty years old. So I
(13:46):
remember when she got pregnant.
Speaker 3 (13:49):
Did she do IVF?
Speaker 1 (13:51):
She would have had to at that age, right, necessarily
let me see it was something wasn't completely hold on
natural hold on. Oh yeah, I do remember the So yeah,
she's never publicly confirmed whether she used IVF at all
when she became pregnant with her first child. She kept
(14:12):
all of that stuff private, but because of her age,
a lot of people just assume that that's what it was.
So that, yeah, it wasn't a surrogate, but it was
the other like the other option of IVF for people
that are not able to get pregnant. But yeah, I
just often always wondered, like what is that like, like
being so attached to something in your body and in disattachchent.
(14:35):
I've also always wanted that too with people who put
kids up for adoption, I do feel like if you
don't want to be a parent, if you're not in
the mental you know position or you know, even if
it's financial, whatever the case may be. I believe in
adoption only because I feel like babies deserve good homes
and kids, like they don't ask to be here, so
they do deserve that. But I always wondered how difficult
(14:55):
that was to just give your kids, like have your
kid just you know, floating in this this system of
like let me pick and choose if I want to
become your parents when they have natural born parents.
Speaker 2 (15:10):
You also or people also don't talk about like when
I was breastfeeding, because is the Sarah gate gonna be
breastfeeding too, because.
Speaker 5 (15:19):
You literally feel like I felt when my baby needed
food or was crying. Like it's a weird sensation that
you get, but like you feel like.
Speaker 2 (15:34):
The baby needing your breast milk.
Speaker 3 (15:36):
But if you're if you.
Speaker 1 (15:40):
Would still feel and had breast Mike and all that
because the baby. But I just feel like Sarah gets
signed up for that, like there's a disattachment that you
have to sign up for.
Speaker 2 (15:51):
That's an interesting career, Like I don't.
Speaker 3 (15:56):
That's a lot according to reports the babies.
Speaker 1 (16:01):
When it comes to the baby's health condition, all that
I can find so far is that those surgeries, those
life sustaining medical surgeries and care that were needed are
happening and the baby is still currently hospitalized. However, there's
been a temporary restriction put on the surrogate, mom McKenna,
so she can't see or hold the baby as the
(16:24):
multi state legal and custody dispute between the surrogate and
the intended parents proceed.
Speaker 2 (16:28):
How can they do that.
Speaker 1 (16:29):
Though, because at the end of what I think they're
going to probably try and argue. I'm not for sure,
but listening to this because she went to Texas where
she had that researched, So there has to be some
sort of clause for surrogates in Texas right when it
comes to making that decision. That's why she went there.
But whereever she was, wherever that contract is deemed like
(16:52):
we're doing this in the state of whatever, and I'm
assuming it's California. Those legal rights might protect the actual parent,
but a judge, because this is now a legal matter,
and a judge is gonna basically say, hey, right now,
we just want to make it where all things halt.
But legally and according to whatever contractor situation they have,
(17:15):
those are that baby's parents. So until wee get that's
that is a This is like a do's a big movie?
This is like a movie. I feel I was gonna
say I would never want to choose to do a surrogate,
but I know most women who choose surrogacy. It's not
normally just because they just don't want to carry their baby.
There's normally like medical things or like something where they
(17:37):
literally can't do it. So I also on the other
side of it, just the mental and emotional side of it,
for you know, the baby's actual parents. I feel bad,
like cause it's like you have to mentally go through
already like you weren't able to carry your own baby
as his mom right, and then you find out that
(17:58):
he will potentially a birth defects. And I know a
lot of parents you know this, that's not an unnormal
thing like people, more times than we know, are presented
with the option to not move forward with having their
actual child because of the birth defects in the quality
of life or lack there of that will happen. So
you're going through all of that decision making mentally and
(18:19):
emotionally after not being able to I don't even know
the full situation with as surrogancy, like why they chose
to do a surrogate, but all of those emotions, and
then on top of that, now you have to deal
with a whole nother phase of emotions because your baby's here.
The way he came into the world, the legal fight
you're gonna have to go through is so public now,
like it's crazy.
Speaker 3 (18:38):
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (18:39):
I wish everyone in this situation the best because I
think the surrogate mom was trying to make it save a.
Speaker 3 (18:48):
Life, like there are a lot of people who don't believe.
Speaker 1 (18:50):
In abortion once a child is you know, past a
certain point, or you know, if there's a whole lot Lord,
I don't know wish I don't even know what to
wish everybody the best or prayers or I mean, because yo,
another layer of this is like the baby is still
going through all these life saving surgeries, so that poor
(19:10):
baby is also going through so much, is fighting to
be here in this world right now. And that's a
whole other thing that both sides are gonna have to
deal with because obviously the surrogate has grown an attachment
to the baby, attachment to the baby, and obviously the
parents are like this, that's their baby regardless, and they
don't the parents don't want the baby though, well they
didn't want I don't even think it's always the thing
(19:32):
of the parents don't want the baby.
Speaker 3 (19:33):
I think it's the.
Speaker 1 (19:34):
Your risk you're thinking about if I bring my baby
into this world and he has to live this way,
Do I want my child to have to go through that?
And if you have the choice to not, then sometimes
people choose not to.
Speaker 2 (19:46):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (19:48):
Yeah, this has been another episode of The Latest with
Laura the Rose of Guys. We will definitely this this
surrogacy case. We're gonna follow this. I'm interested to see
how this all plays out. And you know, just from
a legal breakdown pspective, I'm interested to see what this
woman's Oh maybe we can get her attorney on the podcast.
Speaker 3 (20:05):
We should do that.
Speaker 1 (20:06):
I'm every child because I'm very interested to see where
her legal defense is going to be.
Speaker 3 (20:10):
I'm sure that's going to be something.
Speaker 1 (20:11):
They found a loophole of some sort in that different
in Texas that she did, you know that she fled to.
I don't know if they'll talk to me right now
because they ain't a thick of it, but we'll try.
Speaker 3 (20:21):
This has been another episode of the Latest with Lona Rosa.
Speaker 1 (20:23):
I tell you, guys, every single episode, y'all could be
anywhere with any old body talking about all of the things.
Speaker 3 (20:30):
Child, but y'all choose to be right here with me,
my lowriders.
Speaker 1 (20:33):
I appreciate you, guys, and I'll catch you in my
next episode.
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