September 10, 2026 • 21 mins
Loren LoRosa sits down with Sherri Shepherd for a candid conversation about protecting your peace, knowing when to say no, and navigating life when the stakes get higher. Sherri opens up about why she declined to participate in a Wendy Williams documentary, the importance of controlling your own narrative, and what it means to move with integrity when everyone wants a story.
The conversation also gets personal as Loren and Sherri talk about love, finding peace at home, intimacy, aging, menopause, faith, career growth, The View, and learning to handle the pressure that comes with having a bigger platform. Plus, Loren reflects on her own journey, fear, faith, and what it means to work smarter—not harder.
Sherri Shepherd brings the laughs, honesty, and plenty of real talk to the latest with Loren LoRosa.
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Speaker 1 (00:02):
I'm the homegirl that knows a little bit about everything
and everybody. You know if you don't lie about that, right?
Lauren came in hot.
Speaker 2 (00:09):
Hey, y'all, what's up?
Speaker 1 (00:10):
It's Lauren LaRosa. And this is another episode of the
latest with Lauren LaRosa. This is your daily dig on
all things pop culture, entertainment news, and all of the
conversations that shake the room, baby. Now today, checking in
behind the scenes of The Grind because you guys know
that that is how we start off the latest with
Lauren La Rosa. And for those of you guys who
may be first-time listeners, welcome. Okay? This is one of
(00:33):
the best experiences of your lives. I guarantee it. Your life, lives. Welcome. Welcome.
We do the behind the scenes of the grind check-in,
which is a real check-in where I ask myself, and
you guys can take a moment to ask yourselves, how
are you really feeling? When you're on the grind, that
is not something you do. And I wanted to do
better at taking care of myself. So I built this
(00:54):
in as a segment to the show because we here daily.
So if I'm checking in on myself today, how am
I really feeling? You know, I've been thinking a lot
and having conversations a lot about what this new... rendition
or era or just level of the grind looks like.
(01:16):
I want to work smarter and not harder. And I
think out of fear that, you know, everything I worked for,
it was going to come today, be gone tomorrow or whatever.
one wrong decision was going to, you know, stop everything
in its tracks. Like I've just been very, very cautious
over these last, like, you know, I would say like
decade that I've been building in life, um, because I'm
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working really hard and there's a lot of people that
depend on me. But I think what I've learned is
that that anxiety and that fear has placed a permanent,
like backup I wouldn't even say backup plan because I've
never had a backup plan. Like it's always this or
nothing for me and everything I'm doing, even if it's
not directly related to entertainment, storytelling, media, fashion, that whole thing.
(02:01):
It's just to support the dream and the vision. Like
I've always been very focused in that way, but it
does put a, it's like you're second guessing yourself. about
things and about decisions that you shouldn't be doing that within.
And that is not healthy too. So I've been thinking
a lot about what does the whole brown girl, no
grinding look like? Like what is the rendition of that?
(02:21):
And what I had to come to a realization of
after having a, an amazing conversation with my pastor, shout
out to pastor Jerome Lewis that sees the greatness over
the weekend is that it's not just a physical thing.
Like I can tell myself and I have, yo, you
can't be out. four to five days a night, you
plan on getting up and being sharp at four or
five o'clock in the morning. You also got to go
(02:42):
to sleep, Lauren. You got to eat well. You got
to make sure you're eating in general and not just going, going, going.
But my mental has to be cool, too. And, you know, me...
And this fear thing, y'all, it's so crazy. I've never
been a person that has dealt with fear whatsoever. I've
always been like, I'm going to jump out the window
and I'm going to find my wings on the way down.
But at this level in life, there's a lot more
(03:04):
at stake. And I feel it sometimes. So I do
allow fear to control how I show up a bit.
And that is such a, I didn't even like saying
that out loud until I had the conversation this weekend
with my pastor yesterday. And just had to get really
real about that. And in facing that, you know, I
think if number one is freeing. Number two, I think
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it's putting me in a position to make better decisions.
But number three, it's having me really be like, girl,
you are such a strong believer in your faith journey
and in God. Two things cannot exist. Fear and God
cannot exist. We talk a lot about spirituality on this
podcast because it is my bread and butter. We talk
a lot about God because everything and everything that you guys,
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everything that I'm doing, everything that you guys are hearing
comes from him. And I will scream that to the mountaintops.
But I had to really ask myself a question as
I was thinking about, you know, how I've been mentally
taking care of myself. and dealing with this fear of,
like fear of losing, fear of not getting things right,
fear of, you know, the critique, fear of not being
(04:09):
able to fix and own up to the critique, and,
you know, fear of you're only as good as your
last story. And mentally, like, that's just not a good
way to live. I always think about this thing that
I learned about some years ago called the withering of
black women. And this conversation, this study, all the information
surrounding that, talks about how there are so much societal
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pressures and, you know, stress points that are put on
Black women and that we as Black women accept ourselves.
And I'm only speaking as a Black woman. I'm not
saying that like Black men don't experience this either, but
I'm saying that because I am a Black woman. And
I look at my mom and I always tell her,
you know, I can tell physically, I can look at
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her and tell when she's stressed about something just by
how well she's not taking care care of herself and
certain things. And I had to stop and tell myself
that like, yo, you've been allowing fear to have so
much place in your brain. Maybe not showing up everything
in every way all the time, but it's been there.
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And the push through beyond that, that's when you're like fully,
like the wellness comes in. And the wellness leads into
you being able to do what you do effortlessly, get
on these stages, these platforms, these networks, and do what
you do effortlessly. So I've been in that bag, having
that conversation with myself. My pastor gave me a book
over the weekend that I actually just started. And I
say just started, I'm like maybe page like 10 in.
(05:39):
But I'm excited to read the book. I think it's
going to add a lot of clarity around my decision making.
The book is called Better Decisions, Fewer Regrets by Andy Stanley.
It's five questions to help you determine your next move. Yeah,
it's so crazy because when you are the new, it's
like I always want to be learned. I always want
to learn to be teachable. But when you're the new
kid at school, you have to be so accountable for
(05:59):
the things that like you're not allowing to be taught
and to happen naturally. Like I, I'm just in a
season to let go on that God, but I'm really
trying to own that season and let that happen. and
not get in the way of it. So behind the
scenes of The Grind, I have been having these self-talks.
Whenever I feel myself and my own wants and my
(06:22):
own needs taking priority, uh-uh, bring it on back. Bring
it on back. I don't know if that helps somebody
out there, but I hope it did. But I want
to get on into the latest because when we talk
about platforms and networks and television, there are two black
women that have been a huge part of this conversation
(06:42):
within the last. I mean, one of them for over
a decade, like literally decades over a decade. Another one
of them within the last six years has really taken
over this space. I'm talking to Sherri Shepherd. We sit
down for a conversation about Wendy Williams and the documentary
that is coming on Peacock, Clap If You Care. This
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documentary is going to be executive produced and brought to
us by Wendy's former producer, Suzanne Bass, who was also
a former friend. I broke the story here on The
Latest with Lorna Rose, and I told you guys that
a source close to Wendy Williams told me that Wendy
was blindsided by Suzanne's involvement in the documentary, which is
very alarming because we had saw Suzanne and Wendy... hanging
(07:23):
out and you know Wendy can't do much but she's
able to go to dinners and certain things and Suzanne
was one of the people we saw around her so
to know that you know they were reaching out to
people about being involved in this documentary as recent as
like April and that was after we had seen them
out together and I know because of my source close
to Wendy that Suzanne and Wendy Williams are no longer
friends um yeah suzanne's involved in this doc and and
(07:48):
i and i saw a clip uh from norman baker
norman was another one of wendy's producers we would see
him on the show a lot wendy would banter with
him he sat down um with the girl shout out
to the girlies over at um off the record podcast
and he talked about why he decided to decline to
participate in the doc let's take a listen i.
Speaker 3 (08:08):
Don't want to be involved in trashing.
Speaker 1 (08:09):
Her have you been asked to participate I.
Speaker 3 (08:12):
Have been asked to participate, just not really for me.
I would like to have final say on like what I'm.
Speaker 1 (08:22):
Going to say about her.
Speaker 2 (08:22):
Suzanne Bass, she's going to be heavily involved.
Speaker 1 (08:25):
What was your reaction when you found out that she
was going to be involved in one of the documentaries?
Speaker 3 (08:30):
Suzanne really wants to make like a really, really nice
tribute to our show and to Wendy. So I hope
that it ends up you know, being that way and
being like a nice tribute. But again, I think I
just want to have control over my own narrative.
Speaker 1 (08:47):
Well, Sherri Shepherd gets into it with me about whether
she agreed to participate or not in this doc. Let's
get into the exclusive conversation.
Speaker 2 (08:56):
I was about to light it up on some people. Yeah,
but y'all didn't ask me either. So I'm really glad.
But yeah, I'll listen.
Speaker 1 (09:03):
You done asked her something now. She got that look
on her face like, mm-mm, Sherri ain't gonna talk. Because
you was talking about the See It Clear people, and
I was just wondering. I know that the Clear people
trying to do this Wendy doc. I was wondering if
they done called you about it.
Speaker 2 (09:14):
Yeah, but I said no.
Speaker 1 (09:16):
Okay.
Speaker 2 (09:16):
Because out of respect for Wendy, we weren't friends. Like,
I guess... I was a guest on her show a
couple times.
Speaker 1 (09:25):
And literally, when you're a guest on somebody's show, you
got four minutes on their couch, five minutes. I had
only met Wendy. She came on The View a couple times.
I was on her couch for five minutes, and then
I left. And so we didn't have any... We didn't
have any relationship outside of that kind of thing. I co-hosted,
but she wasn't there.
Speaker 2 (09:44):
Right.
Speaker 1 (09:44):
So out of respect, I don't engage in gossip that
I've heard. So, you know, I don't have anything to
add to a documentary, And no matter how many 1920
documentaries I want to do. So I respect her too
much to, you know, be saying anything that's negative. Because
I don't know her like that. I mean, we talked
(10:05):
about Charlamagne and they reached out to him. He had
said no. We broke a story here on The Latest
with Lauren La Rosa. A source close to Wendy said
that she was actually like blindsided by the fact that
Suzanne was even going to be involved. But what I
love is, I say all that to say what I
love is, no matter how anybody felt about whatever, certain
things she talked about, whatever, what you're seeing is so
many people, like Bevy Smith, so many people coming out
(10:27):
and being like, I don't want no part in that. Like,
I am good.
Speaker 2 (10:30):
I would have to say.
Speaker 1 (10:33):
with people who claim that they know her why are
you doing it yeah what's what's the motivation behind why
you feel like you have to share uh about Wendy
and especially if you know the family does not approve
then what's the what's ulterior motive behind that yeah that's
why you have so many people going out of respect
(10:53):
I'm not going to do that I think it's her
story to tell when she when she and if she
chooses to like if there's gonna be a documentary about
the show yeah if she's up to it and able
to you I would want her to be involved Yeah, absolutely.
And I would have been like, it's very telling that
the family doesn't approve of it. So, you know, I'm
going now everybody's reaching out blind, trying to ask people
(11:13):
who have nothing to do with Wendy. So that makes
me a little weary. That makes me a little leery
and question motivations. Well, I see my publicist looking at me.
That's the nice thing that Sherry's going to say. We
keep it there.
Speaker 2 (11:28):
That's why you need a black woman on your team.
Speaker 1 (11:31):
It's those looks. Y'all hear me, Simone, in the background,
but she ain't even had to say nothing. I felt
the look.
Speaker 2 (11:37):
I looked over my shoulder.
Speaker 1 (11:38):
I think that's how our fists go up, too.
Speaker 2 (11:41):
Don't come with me in here. The two front teeth showing.
Speaker 1 (11:44):
I wish you would say something.
Speaker 2 (11:46):
You would shut up. I'm going to leave it very nice.
Speaker 1 (11:49):
I question motivations behind wanting to tell a story things
have been said what are you gonna say that's so
different that the family doesn't even approve of this documentary
so leave it right there yeah well thank you let
me know whenever my bedroom is ready you know i
(12:10):
just said i just opened the door yeah you're coming
in with pajamas and i know and i want to
know where your seasoning cabinets at where do you keep
your hot sauce at please tell me because if i'm
gonna be there Thank you. But I don't cook. My
guy cooks. Like, he's amazing. You know what he made yesterday?
He made salmon. He fried lamb chops. He made ribs.
And he made ribeye steak. He made greens. He made
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cauliflower casserole.
Speaker 2 (12:33):
Oh, it was Labor Day.
Speaker 1 (12:34):
I'm like, why all this food?
Speaker 2 (12:35):
But that's just how he likes to cook. Like, he
loves to cook.
Speaker 1 (12:38):
I love this for you. Like, he cooks. Because no
matter how much you work, having that home feeling.
Speaker 2 (12:43):
Absolutely.
Speaker 1 (12:44):
Because you provide it for your son and for yourself
for everybody. Yes, we're doing it together. Having Houstonians, but
having it from someone who's providing it for you with
everything that you're doing, like it is such a peace
of mind and like, absolutely. Like you need, you need
peace in the sea of chaotic stuff. And somebody saying,
I want to be that piece. Like I asked him,
I said, why do you think God sent you into
(13:05):
my life? He said, because he knew I could handle
the challenge. Like my guy is a rock. You could
chip away at a rock, but it don't move. And
that's what I love. He don't move. And he's like,
he's a foundation. Even in the Bible say, don't build
your house on sand because it just moves. But he's
a rock. And so, you know, he does that for
me and he makes it so I can go out
(13:25):
and fly and be who I am. He just, he goes,
go out there and be, be that, you know, and
I do. I know the feeling. We had cocktails.
Speaker 2 (13:34):
We were cheers. Cause we'll go out.
Speaker 1 (13:38):
I'm right there.
Speaker 2 (13:38):
Cause you'll love him.
Speaker 1 (13:40):
He's cool.
Speaker 2 (13:41):
And he ain't from, he ain't from like, he ain't Hollywood.
Speaker 1 (13:44):
None of that.
Speaker 2 (13:45):
Not any of that.
Speaker 1 (13:46):
Same, same. I'm going to show you my band. I'll
show you when we done.
Speaker 2 (13:49):
Because that's a man right there.
Speaker 1 (13:52):
Yeah, you know.
Speaker 2 (13:52):
That's a man right there. I know what I'm doing.
Speaker 1 (13:54):
I'm not navigating. You know what you're doing. Well, somebody
need to tell Envy because that little conversation we had.
Because Envy didn't know how to please his wife, Gia,
for some time, guys.
Speaker 2 (14:04):
But he was 16. At 16, you don't know how
to please your wife.
Speaker 1 (14:06):
Yeah, but I think she got mad in her adult
life and said it.
Speaker 2 (14:08):
Yeah, because after 10 years, that's a long time.
Speaker 1 (14:10):
I don't know at what point or within what child
she was like, you know what, I'm just tired of this.
Speaker 2 (14:15):
And you know what that was with Gia? He did
something to make her mad.
Speaker 1 (14:18):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (14:19):
I'm sorry.
Speaker 1 (14:20):
She was pissed. It came out in an argument. It
came out in an argument. And that's when she was
like that. Cause holding that back for orgasm back for
10 years. And this is, and you know, you might
be at the age where it's like, it's slipping away.
Speaker 2 (14:32):
Cause orgasms slip away in different phases of being like, no,
they come back. They do come back.
Speaker 1 (14:36):
But it's like, there's, it's very strong in your thirties,
in your forties. But sometimes, you know, you go through
menopause and it goes away and then it comes back.
So when it goes away, what do you do? then,
you know, you just got to figure out other stuff.
That's when you start liking, that's when you start going,
I love being with my girlfriends. I find things that
make me happy. And you like, the orgasms didn't slip away.
(14:56):
You just got to find them again. You got to
calm down. You got to stop stressing.
Speaker 2 (14:59):
And you find them again.
Speaker 1 (15:00):
Sometimes you need accoutrement to help you out.
Speaker 2 (15:03):
Accoutrement?
Speaker 1 (15:04):
See, this is the type of mentorship I'm talking about.
Accoutrement and hot sauce and seasoning.
Speaker 2 (15:08):
A hot sauce you don't need to get your orgasms back.
Speaker 1 (15:10):
No, no, no.
Speaker 2 (15:11):
That's a whole.
Speaker 1 (15:14):
That's a freakier discussion. But sometimes you need a little
help to get it back. You might need some patches,
you know, like estrogen patches to get it back.
Speaker 2 (15:21):
Because as we get older.
Speaker 1 (15:22):
We lose it. I thought the minges had to do that.
Speaker 2 (15:25):
No, we have to like we lose our estrogen.
Speaker 1 (15:27):
We lose the testosterone and all of that goes into
like sexual desire. So you sometimes you have to, you know,
get a little help from the doctor. What age does
it start for us? Yeah, pregnancy makes you not be
able to orgasm?
Speaker 2 (15:39):
Well, not in Ciara's case. Oh, I was about to say.
Not in Ciara's case.
Speaker 1 (15:42):
Listen, I want my baby.
Speaker 2 (15:43):
This is her fifth child.
Speaker 1 (15:45):
Obviously, dim orgasms and pregnancy is a turn on for Ciara.
Speaker 2 (15:49):
No.
Speaker 1 (15:50):
No, but some people being pregnant, you just got to
give your body a chance to heal. That's all. Like,
you know, men be jumping on you when you had
a baby, then you're pregnant again. But sometimes you just,
sometimes you just have to rest and give your body
like a reset. Our bodies are really tender. So, and
I think sometimes we push them too hard and they
always come back. They do. Now, I don't know if
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they come back when you like 80, cause you don't
want to have no heart attack or anything like that.
I'm not there yet, but I'm just saying when you old,
when you real old, the Morgans has got to be,
they got to be real tender cause you freaking have
a stroke. So. All right.
Speaker 2 (16:25):
Didn't want to end on that.
Speaker 1 (16:27):
Thank you. This has been the greatest drop I've ever
heard and they have ever heard here on the latest.
Speaker 2 (16:31):
I don't know if an 80-year-old is listening to the podcast.
They don't even know what the podcast is. They might.
We might have three. And they got grandkids.
Speaker 1 (16:38):
And they got grandkids. So if the grandkids or your
grandmama is listening, let her know.
Speaker 2 (16:42):
Just say, grandmama, the orgasm's going to come back. She's
going to go, what, baby? Just say, the orgasm's coming back.
Speaker 1 (16:48):
Won't he do it? Won't he do it? All right.
Won't he will? Well, that has been my new roommate, Ms.
Sherri Shepherd on the latest with Lauren LaRosa. But no, honestly, though, like,
you know, you are one of the people that I
look at in this and look at how you're moving
and maneuvering. Thank you. And that's it. So happy to
see you in a good place.
Speaker 2 (17:03):
And you were amazing on The View.
Speaker 1 (17:04):
Thank you.
Speaker 2 (17:05):
You were so great.
Speaker 1 (17:06):
I loved it.
Speaker 2 (17:06):
I love, I just smiled the entire time.
Speaker 1 (17:09):
Because I was like, why? When he asked, when Sean
asked me to go, I was like, for what? What
do you mean for what? Because they talk about like
politics and stuff and that's not something I like do
in this era of my life anymore. But you do
your research and you're knowledgeable. which extends to everything. That's
who you are. You make sure that people know the beginning,
the end, and then the middle. That's what you do.
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Politics is just another extension. When I got there, though,
I was like, oh, this is what getting out the
trenches feels like. Like, there's, like, this is nice over here.
Speaker 2 (17:40):
There's a whole world.
Speaker 1 (17:40):
They got two bathrooms.
Speaker 2 (17:42):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (17:43):
Like, that's where you go to that friend house who
got both bathrooms. Yeah, it was nice.
Speaker 2 (17:46):
And see, and that's just a preview.
Speaker 1 (17:48):
Their team. Yeah, like, it felt... A.
Speaker 2 (17:50):
Preview, a snapshot of.
Speaker 1 (17:52):
of what God is showing you true is your future. Yeah.
That's what it is.
Speaker 2 (17:56):
Yes.
Speaker 1 (17:57):
So enjoy it. Be present to it. Yes. And he
put you in it for a reason. Thank you. Cheers
to learn your politics. Now just, you know, I've been
knowing them, but I just, I just, it's a, it's
a slippery slope to veer into things. I, I'm always
saying about platforming. Platforming is so different right now. TMZ
was different. Like, we could yell back and forth about
so much. And nobody cared about me and what I
was yelling about. Now, it's like... Oh, yeah. Everything you say.
(18:19):
And I'm watching, you know, Whoopi and Sunny, and, like,
their notes are prepared. And I'm like, I know they
went through this with a publicist and a team. And
then you see the reaction. After we left the show,
I saw some of the, like, just political reaction. Right.
I experienced it a bit with Charlamagne when he does
his donkey today. But when I saw that, I was like... Oh,
this is why he be yelling at me about my
words mattering. Yes, absolutely. That's all he yells about. And
(18:41):
having a thick skin as well.
Speaker 2 (18:42):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (18:42):
Because, you know, when you're in that kind of seat,
you also have to know you can't please everybody. This
is what Joy Behar told me. The moment you open
your mouth, half the world is going to hate you.
Speaker 2 (18:52):
Right.
Speaker 1 (18:53):
So, you know, you can't be trying to please everybody.
You can't take the weight of the world on your shoulders.
You can't take the weight of black women anymore. On
your shoulders. You can't take all of that. You're not
designed to do it. As long as you know you're
being true to yourself and true to the one who
created you and gave you the position.
Speaker 2 (19:09):
Yes.
Speaker 1 (19:10):
You know, then you're all right.
Speaker 2 (19:12):
But you have to also have a thick skin.
Speaker 1 (19:14):
Yeah. Because that's, you know, with more opportunities and more
responsibility comes more negativity that will be aimed at you.
to knock you off your balance. So you can't take
all of that in. And be showing up with your
wood cricket just confused. I'm telling you. Otherwise you'd be
having so many breakdowns and so many like, oh my God,
don't be reading all that stuff. I try. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (19:34):
And you grown.
Speaker 1 (19:36):
That's all I would say. I'm grown. Can I hug?
Speaker 2 (19:39):
I want a hug. I just opened up the door.
Come give me a hug.
Speaker 1 (19:42):
Okay, y'all. She's giving me a hug. So maybe I
won't stay in her house too long.
Speaker 2 (19:46):
I'll just accept the hug.
Speaker 1 (19:47):
Oh my God. No, thank you.
Speaker 2 (19:49):
I'm so proud of you.
Speaker 1 (19:50):
Thank you.
Speaker 2 (19:50):
Thank you. This has been awesome. Keep doing what you're doing.
Thank you.
Speaker 3 (19:53):
You're welcome.
Speaker 1 (19:53):
Thank you for answering all my calls always. Oh, you're welcome.
You're welcome. Shout out to Sherri Shepherd. I mean, okay.
Her show, it's canceled. Some months ago since then, she
has been on a sold out comedy tour. She just
announced that she is going to be playing the genie
in Aladdin on Broadway here in New York City. Make
(20:16):
sure you guys come get your tickets, go out and
see her there. But then she also has the Angel
in the Rubble, which is going to be out this Saturday,
September 12th. out this Saturday, September 12th, which is a
story commemorating the last survivor of 9-11, who is still alive.
(20:37):
And Sherri tells her story so beautifully in her role
on that movie. So there's a lot to talk about
with Sherri. There's a lot to support. There is a
lot to go and do. Make sure after watching this
conversation and hearing, I think this conversation shows you the
cloth of Sherri Shepherd. You got to be cut from
a certain cloth to not want to participate in in
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something just because of the headlines and the clicks that
it'll get you but because your heart is telling you
it don't make no sense to do so like who
am I to be an authority on that and I
appreciate you know people like Sherri that's why I told
her she my mentor y'all we're gonna see what happens
this has been another episode of the latest with Lauren
La Rosa I tell you guys every single episode y'all
could be anywhere with any old body but you choose
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to be right here with me my lowriders I appreciate
you and I'll catch you in my next one
I'm the homegirl that knows a little bit about everything
and everybody. You know if you don't lie about that, right?
Lauren came in hot.
Speaker 2 (00:09):
Hey, y'all, what's up?
Speaker 1 (00:10):
It's Lauren LaRosa. And this is another episode of the
latest with Lauren LaRosa. This is your daily dig on
all things pop culture, entertainment news, and all of the
conversations that shake the room, baby. Now today, checking in
behind the scenes of The Grind because you guys know
that that is how we start off the latest with
Lauren La Rosa. And for those of you guys who
may be first-time listeners, welcome. Okay? This is one of
(00:33):
the best experiences of your lives. I guarantee it. Your life, lives. Welcome. Welcome.
We do the behind the scenes of the grind check-in,
which is a real check-in where I ask myself, and
you guys can take a moment to ask yourselves, how
are you really feeling? When you're on the grind, that
is not something you do. And I wanted to do
better at taking care of myself. So I built this
(00:54):
in as a segment to the show because we here daily.
So if I'm checking in on myself today, how am
I really feeling? You know, I've been thinking a lot
and having conversations a lot about what this new... rendition
or era or just level of the grind looks like.
(01:16):
I want to work smarter and not harder. And I
think out of fear that, you know, everything I worked for,
it was going to come today, be gone tomorrow or whatever.
one wrong decision was going to, you know, stop everything
in its tracks. Like I've just been very, very cautious
over these last, like, you know, I would say like
decade that I've been building in life, um, because I'm
(01:38):
working really hard and there's a lot of people that
depend on me. But I think what I've learned is
that that anxiety and that fear has placed a permanent,
like backup I wouldn't even say backup plan because I've
never had a backup plan. Like it's always this or
nothing for me and everything I'm doing, even if it's
not directly related to entertainment, storytelling, media, fashion, that whole thing.
(02:01):
It's just to support the dream and the vision. Like
I've always been very focused in that way, but it
does put a, it's like you're second guessing yourself. about
things and about decisions that you shouldn't be doing that within.
And that is not healthy too. So I've been thinking
a lot about what does the whole brown girl, no
grinding look like? Like what is the rendition of that?
(02:21):
And what I had to come to a realization of
after having a, an amazing conversation with my pastor, shout
out to pastor Jerome Lewis that sees the greatness over
the weekend is that it's not just a physical thing.
Like I can tell myself and I have, yo, you
can't be out. four to five days a night, you
plan on getting up and being sharp at four or
five o'clock in the morning. You also got to go
(02:42):
to sleep, Lauren. You got to eat well. You got
to make sure you're eating in general and not just going, going, going.
But my mental has to be cool, too. And, you know, me...
And this fear thing, y'all, it's so crazy. I've never
been a person that has dealt with fear whatsoever. I've
always been like, I'm going to jump out the window
and I'm going to find my wings on the way down.
But at this level in life, there's a lot more
(03:04):
at stake. And I feel it sometimes. So I do
allow fear to control how I show up a bit.
And that is such a, I didn't even like saying
that out loud until I had the conversation this weekend
with my pastor yesterday. And just had to get really
real about that. And in facing that, you know, I
think if number one is freeing. Number two, I think
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it's putting me in a position to make better decisions.
But number three, it's having me really be like, girl,
you are such a strong believer in your faith journey
and in God. Two things cannot exist. Fear and God
cannot exist. We talk a lot about spirituality on this
podcast because it is my bread and butter. We talk
a lot about God because everything and everything that you guys,
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everything that I'm doing, everything that you guys are hearing
comes from him. And I will scream that to the mountaintops.
But I had to really ask myself a question as
I was thinking about, you know, how I've been mentally
taking care of myself. and dealing with this fear of,
like fear of losing, fear of not getting things right,
fear of, you know, the critique, fear of not being
(04:09):
able to fix and own up to the critique, and,
you know, fear of you're only as good as your
last story. And mentally, like, that's just not a good
way to live. I always think about this thing that
I learned about some years ago called the withering of
black women. And this conversation, this study, all the information
surrounding that, talks about how there are so much societal
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pressures and, you know, stress points that are put on
Black women and that we as Black women accept ourselves.
And I'm only speaking as a Black woman. I'm not
saying that like Black men don't experience this either, but
I'm saying that because I am a Black woman. And
I look at my mom and I always tell her,
you know, I can tell physically, I can look at
(04:53):
her and tell when she's stressed about something just by
how well she's not taking care care of herself and
certain things. And I had to stop and tell myself
that like, yo, you've been allowing fear to have so
much place in your brain. Maybe not showing up everything
in every way all the time, but it's been there.
(05:14):
And the push through beyond that, that's when you're like fully,
like the wellness comes in. And the wellness leads into
you being able to do what you do effortlessly, get
on these stages, these platforms, these networks, and do what
you do effortlessly. So I've been in that bag, having
that conversation with myself. My pastor gave me a book
over the weekend that I actually just started. And I
say just started, I'm like maybe page like 10 in.
(05:39):
But I'm excited to read the book. I think it's
going to add a lot of clarity around my decision making.
The book is called Better Decisions, Fewer Regrets by Andy Stanley.
It's five questions to help you determine your next move. Yeah,
it's so crazy because when you are the new, it's
like I always want to be learned. I always want
to learn to be teachable. But when you're the new
kid at school, you have to be so accountable for
(05:59):
the things that like you're not allowing to be taught
and to happen naturally. Like I, I'm just in a
season to let go on that God, but I'm really
trying to own that season and let that happen. and
not get in the way of it. So behind the
scenes of The Grind, I have been having these self-talks.
Whenever I feel myself and my own wants and my
(06:22):
own needs taking priority, uh-uh, bring it on back. Bring
it on back. I don't know if that helps somebody
out there, but I hope it did. But I want
to get on into the latest because when we talk
about platforms and networks and television, there are two black
women that have been a huge part of this conversation
(06:42):
within the last. I mean, one of them for over
a decade, like literally decades over a decade. Another one
of them within the last six years has really taken
over this space. I'm talking to Sherri Shepherd. We sit
down for a conversation about Wendy Williams and the documentary
that is coming on Peacock, Clap If You Care. This
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documentary is going to be executive produced and brought to
us by Wendy's former producer, Suzanne Bass, who was also
a former friend. I broke the story here on The
Latest with Lorna Rose, and I told you guys that
a source close to Wendy Williams told me that Wendy
was blindsided by Suzanne's involvement in the documentary, which is
very alarming because we had saw Suzanne and Wendy... hanging
(07:23):
out and you know Wendy can't do much but she's
able to go to dinners and certain things and Suzanne
was one of the people we saw around her so
to know that you know they were reaching out to
people about being involved in this documentary as recent as
like April and that was after we had seen them
out together and I know because of my source close
to Wendy that Suzanne and Wendy Williams are no longer
friends um yeah suzanne's involved in this doc and and
(07:48):
i and i saw a clip uh from norman baker
norman was another one of wendy's producers we would see
him on the show a lot wendy would banter with
him he sat down um with the girl shout out
to the girlies over at um off the record podcast
and he talked about why he decided to decline to
participate in the doc let's take a listen i.
Speaker 3 (08:08):
Don't want to be involved in trashing.
Speaker 1 (08:09):
Her have you been asked to participate I.
Speaker 3 (08:12):
Have been asked to participate, just not really for me.
I would like to have final say on like what I'm.
Speaker 1 (08:22):
Going to say about her.
Speaker 2 (08:22):
Suzanne Bass, she's going to be heavily involved.
Speaker 1 (08:25):
What was your reaction when you found out that she
was going to be involved in one of the documentaries?
Speaker 3 (08:30):
Suzanne really wants to make like a really, really nice
tribute to our show and to Wendy. So I hope
that it ends up you know, being that way and
being like a nice tribute. But again, I think I
just want to have control over my own narrative.
Speaker 1 (08:47):
Well, Sherri Shepherd gets into it with me about whether
she agreed to participate or not in this doc. Let's
get into the exclusive conversation.
Speaker 2 (08:56):
I was about to light it up on some people. Yeah,
but y'all didn't ask me either. So I'm really glad.
But yeah, I'll listen.
Speaker 1 (09:03):
You done asked her something now. She got that look
on her face like, mm-mm, Sherri ain't gonna talk. Because
you was talking about the See It Clear people, and
I was just wondering. I know that the Clear people
trying to do this Wendy doc. I was wondering if
they done called you about it.
Speaker 2 (09:14):
Yeah, but I said no.
Speaker 1 (09:16):
Okay.
Speaker 2 (09:16):
Because out of respect for Wendy, we weren't friends. Like,
I guess... I was a guest on her show a
couple times.
Speaker 1 (09:25):
And literally, when you're a guest on somebody's show, you
got four minutes on their couch, five minutes. I had
only met Wendy. She came on The View a couple times.
I was on her couch for five minutes, and then
I left. And so we didn't have any... We didn't
have any relationship outside of that kind of thing. I co-hosted,
but she wasn't there.
Speaker 2 (09:44):
Right.
Speaker 1 (09:44):
So out of respect, I don't engage in gossip that
I've heard. So, you know, I don't have anything to
add to a documentary, And no matter how many 1920
documentaries I want to do. So I respect her too
much to, you know, be saying anything that's negative. Because
I don't know her like that. I mean, we talked
(10:05):
about Charlamagne and they reached out to him. He had
said no. We broke a story here on The Latest
with Lauren La Rosa. A source close to Wendy said
that she was actually like blindsided by the fact that
Suzanne was even going to be involved. But what I
love is, I say all that to say what I
love is, no matter how anybody felt about whatever, certain
things she talked about, whatever, what you're seeing is so
many people, like Bevy Smith, so many people coming out
(10:27):
and being like, I don't want no part in that. Like,
I am good.
Speaker 2 (10:30):
I would have to say.
Speaker 1 (10:33):
with people who claim that they know her why are
you doing it yeah what's what's the motivation behind why
you feel like you have to share uh about Wendy
and especially if you know the family does not approve
then what's the what's ulterior motive behind that yeah that's
why you have so many people going out of respect
(10:53):
I'm not going to do that I think it's her
story to tell when she when she and if she
chooses to like if there's gonna be a documentary about
the show yeah if she's up to it and able
to you I would want her to be involved Yeah, absolutely.
And I would have been like, it's very telling that
the family doesn't approve of it. So, you know, I'm
going now everybody's reaching out blind, trying to ask people
(11:13):
who have nothing to do with Wendy. So that makes
me a little weary. That makes me a little leery
and question motivations. Well, I see my publicist looking at me.
That's the nice thing that Sherry's going to say. We
keep it there.
Speaker 2 (11:28):
That's why you need a black woman on your team.
Speaker 1 (11:31):
It's those looks. Y'all hear me, Simone, in the background,
but she ain't even had to say nothing. I felt
the look.
Speaker 2 (11:37):
I looked over my shoulder.
Speaker 1 (11:38):
I think that's how our fists go up, too.
Speaker 2 (11:41):
Don't come with me in here. The two front teeth showing.
Speaker 1 (11:44):
I wish you would say something.
Speaker 2 (11:46):
You would shut up. I'm going to leave it very nice.
Speaker 1 (11:49):
I question motivations behind wanting to tell a story things
have been said what are you gonna say that's so
different that the family doesn't even approve of this documentary
so leave it right there yeah well thank you let
me know whenever my bedroom is ready you know i
(12:10):
just said i just opened the door yeah you're coming
in with pajamas and i know and i want to
know where your seasoning cabinets at where do you keep
your hot sauce at please tell me because if i'm
gonna be there Thank you. But I don't cook. My
guy cooks. Like, he's amazing. You know what he made yesterday?
He made salmon. He fried lamb chops. He made ribs.
And he made ribeye steak. He made greens. He made
(12:32):
cauliflower casserole.
Speaker 2 (12:33):
Oh, it was Labor Day.
Speaker 1 (12:34):
I'm like, why all this food?
Speaker 2 (12:35):
But that's just how he likes to cook. Like, he
loves to cook.
Speaker 1 (12:38):
I love this for you. Like, he cooks. Because no
matter how much you work, having that home feeling.
Speaker 2 (12:43):
Absolutely.
Speaker 1 (12:44):
Because you provide it for your son and for yourself
for everybody. Yes, we're doing it together. Having Houstonians, but
having it from someone who's providing it for you with
everything that you're doing, like it is such a peace
of mind and like, absolutely. Like you need, you need
peace in the sea of chaotic stuff. And somebody saying,
I want to be that piece. Like I asked him,
I said, why do you think God sent you into
(13:05):
my life? He said, because he knew I could handle
the challenge. Like my guy is a rock. You could
chip away at a rock, but it don't move. And
that's what I love. He don't move. And he's like,
he's a foundation. Even in the Bible say, don't build
your house on sand because it just moves. But he's
a rock. And so, you know, he does that for
me and he makes it so I can go out
(13:25):
and fly and be who I am. He just, he goes,
go out there and be, be that, you know, and
I do. I know the feeling. We had cocktails.
Speaker 2 (13:34):
We were cheers. Cause we'll go out.
Speaker 1 (13:38):
I'm right there.
Speaker 2 (13:38):
Cause you'll love him.
Speaker 1 (13:40):
He's cool.
Speaker 2 (13:41):
And he ain't from, he ain't from like, he ain't Hollywood.
Speaker 1 (13:44):
None of that.
Speaker 2 (13:45):
Not any of that.
Speaker 1 (13:46):
Same, same. I'm going to show you my band. I'll
show you when we done.
Speaker 2 (13:49):
Because that's a man right there.
Speaker 1 (13:52):
Yeah, you know.
Speaker 2 (13:52):
That's a man right there. I know what I'm doing.
Speaker 1 (13:54):
I'm not navigating. You know what you're doing. Well, somebody
need to tell Envy because that little conversation we had.
Because Envy didn't know how to please his wife, Gia,
for some time, guys.
Speaker 2 (14:04):
But he was 16. At 16, you don't know how
to please your wife.
Speaker 1 (14:06):
Yeah, but I think she got mad in her adult
life and said it.
Speaker 2 (14:08):
Yeah, because after 10 years, that's a long time.
Speaker 1 (14:10):
I don't know at what point or within what child
she was like, you know what, I'm just tired of this.
Speaker 2 (14:15):
And you know what that was with Gia? He did
something to make her mad.
Speaker 1 (14:18):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (14:19):
I'm sorry.
Speaker 1 (14:20):
She was pissed. It came out in an argument. It
came out in an argument. And that's when she was
like that. Cause holding that back for orgasm back for
10 years. And this is, and you know, you might
be at the age where it's like, it's slipping away.
Speaker 2 (14:32):
Cause orgasms slip away in different phases of being like, no,
they come back. They do come back.
Speaker 1 (14:36):
But it's like, there's, it's very strong in your thirties,
in your forties. But sometimes, you know, you go through
menopause and it goes away and then it comes back.
So when it goes away, what do you do? then,
you know, you just got to figure out other stuff.
That's when you start liking, that's when you start going,
I love being with my girlfriends. I find things that
make me happy. And you like, the orgasms didn't slip away.
(14:56):
You just got to find them again. You got to
calm down. You got to stop stressing.
Speaker 2 (14:59):
And you find them again.
Speaker 1 (15:00):
Sometimes you need accoutrement to help you out.
Speaker 2 (15:03):
Accoutrement?
Speaker 1 (15:04):
See, this is the type of mentorship I'm talking about.
Accoutrement and hot sauce and seasoning.
Speaker 2 (15:08):
A hot sauce you don't need to get your orgasms back.
Speaker 1 (15:10):
No, no, no.
Speaker 2 (15:11):
That's a whole.
Speaker 1 (15:14):
That's a freakier discussion. But sometimes you need a little
help to get it back. You might need some patches,
you know, like estrogen patches to get it back.
Speaker 2 (15:21):
Because as we get older.
Speaker 1 (15:22):
We lose it. I thought the minges had to do that.
Speaker 2 (15:25):
No, we have to like we lose our estrogen.
Speaker 1 (15:27):
We lose the testosterone and all of that goes into
like sexual desire. So you sometimes you have to, you know,
get a little help from the doctor. What age does
it start for us? Yeah, pregnancy makes you not be
able to orgasm?
Speaker 2 (15:39):
Well, not in Ciara's case. Oh, I was about to say.
Not in Ciara's case.
Speaker 1 (15:42):
Listen, I want my baby.
Speaker 2 (15:43):
This is her fifth child.
Speaker 1 (15:45):
Obviously, dim orgasms and pregnancy is a turn on for Ciara.
Speaker 2 (15:49):
No.
Speaker 1 (15:50):
No, but some people being pregnant, you just got to
give your body a chance to heal. That's all. Like,
you know, men be jumping on you when you had
a baby, then you're pregnant again. But sometimes you just,
sometimes you just have to rest and give your body
like a reset. Our bodies are really tender. So, and
I think sometimes we push them too hard and they
always come back. They do. Now, I don't know if
(16:11):
they come back when you like 80, cause you don't
want to have no heart attack or anything like that.
I'm not there yet, but I'm just saying when you old,
when you real old, the Morgans has got to be,
they got to be real tender cause you freaking have
a stroke. So. All right.
Speaker 2 (16:25):
Didn't want to end on that.
Speaker 1 (16:27):
Thank you. This has been the greatest drop I've ever
heard and they have ever heard here on the latest.
Speaker 2 (16:31):
I don't know if an 80-year-old is listening to the podcast.
They don't even know what the podcast is. They might.
We might have three. And they got grandkids.
Speaker 1 (16:38):
And they got grandkids. So if the grandkids or your
grandmama is listening, let her know.
Speaker 2 (16:42):
Just say, grandmama, the orgasm's going to come back. She's
going to go, what, baby? Just say, the orgasm's coming back.
Speaker 1 (16:48):
Won't he do it? Won't he do it? All right.
Won't he will? Well, that has been my new roommate, Ms.
Sherri Shepherd on the latest with Lauren LaRosa. But no, honestly, though, like,
you know, you are one of the people that I
look at in this and look at how you're moving
and maneuvering. Thank you. And that's it. So happy to
see you in a good place.
Speaker 2 (17:03):
And you were amazing on The View.
Speaker 1 (17:04):
Thank you.
Speaker 2 (17:05):
You were so great.
Speaker 1 (17:06):
I loved it.
Speaker 2 (17:06):
I love, I just smiled the entire time.
Speaker 1 (17:09):
Because I was like, why? When he asked, when Sean
asked me to go, I was like, for what? What
do you mean for what? Because they talk about like
politics and stuff and that's not something I like do
in this era of my life anymore. But you do
your research and you're knowledgeable. which extends to everything. That's
who you are. You make sure that people know the beginning,
the end, and then the middle. That's what you do.
(17:31):
Politics is just another extension. When I got there, though,
I was like, oh, this is what getting out the
trenches feels like. Like, there's, like, this is nice over here.
Speaker 2 (17:40):
There's a whole world.
Speaker 1 (17:40):
They got two bathrooms.
Speaker 2 (17:42):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (17:43):
Like, that's where you go to that friend house who
got both bathrooms. Yeah, it was nice.
Speaker 2 (17:46):
And see, and that's just a preview.
Speaker 1 (17:48):
Their team. Yeah, like, it felt... A.
Speaker 2 (17:50):
Preview, a snapshot of.
Speaker 1 (17:52):
of what God is showing you true is your future. Yeah.
That's what it is.
Speaker 2 (17:56):
Yes.
Speaker 1 (17:57):
So enjoy it. Be present to it. Yes. And he
put you in it for a reason. Thank you. Cheers
to learn your politics. Now just, you know, I've been
knowing them, but I just, I just, it's a, it's
a slippery slope to veer into things. I, I'm always
saying about platforming. Platforming is so different right now. TMZ
was different. Like, we could yell back and forth about
so much. And nobody cared about me and what I
was yelling about. Now, it's like... Oh, yeah. Everything you say.
(18:19):
And I'm watching, you know, Whoopi and Sunny, and, like,
their notes are prepared. And I'm like, I know they
went through this with a publicist and a team. And
then you see the reaction. After we left the show,
I saw some of the, like, just political reaction. Right.
I experienced it a bit with Charlamagne when he does
his donkey today. But when I saw that, I was like... Oh,
this is why he be yelling at me about my
words mattering. Yes, absolutely. That's all he yells about. And
(18:41):
having a thick skin as well.
Speaker 2 (18:42):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (18:42):
Because, you know, when you're in that kind of seat,
you also have to know you can't please everybody. This
is what Joy Behar told me. The moment you open
your mouth, half the world is going to hate you.
Speaker 2 (18:52):
Right.
Speaker 1 (18:53):
So, you know, you can't be trying to please everybody.
You can't take the weight of the world on your shoulders.
You can't take the weight of black women anymore. On
your shoulders. You can't take all of that. You're not
designed to do it. As long as you know you're
being true to yourself and true to the one who
created you and gave you the position.
Speaker 2 (19:09):
Yes.
Speaker 1 (19:10):
You know, then you're all right.
Speaker 2 (19:12):
But you have to also have a thick skin.
Speaker 1 (19:14):
Yeah. Because that's, you know, with more opportunities and more
responsibility comes more negativity that will be aimed at you.
to knock you off your balance. So you can't take
all of that in. And be showing up with your
wood cricket just confused. I'm telling you. Otherwise you'd be
having so many breakdowns and so many like, oh my God,
don't be reading all that stuff. I try. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (19:34):
And you grown.
Speaker 1 (19:36):
That's all I would say. I'm grown. Can I hug?
Speaker 2 (19:39):
I want a hug. I just opened up the door.
Come give me a hug.
Speaker 1 (19:42):
Okay, y'all. She's giving me a hug. So maybe I
won't stay in her house too long.
Speaker 2 (19:46):
I'll just accept the hug.
Speaker 1 (19:47):
Oh my God. No, thank you.
Speaker 2 (19:49):
I'm so proud of you.
Speaker 1 (19:50):
Thank you.
Speaker 2 (19:50):
Thank you. This has been awesome. Keep doing what you're doing.
Thank you.
Speaker 3 (19:53):
You're welcome.
Speaker 1 (19:53):
Thank you for answering all my calls always. Oh, you're welcome.
You're welcome. Shout out to Sherri Shepherd. I mean, okay.
Her show, it's canceled. Some months ago since then, she
has been on a sold out comedy tour. She just
announced that she is going to be playing the genie
in Aladdin on Broadway here in New York City. Make
(20:16):
sure you guys come get your tickets, go out and
see her there. But then she also has the Angel
in the Rubble, which is going to be out this Saturday,
September 12th. out this Saturday, September 12th, which is a
story commemorating the last survivor of 9-11, who is still alive.
(20:37):
And Sherri tells her story so beautifully in her role
on that movie. So there's a lot to talk about
with Sherri. There's a lot to support. There is a
lot to go and do. Make sure after watching this
conversation and hearing, I think this conversation shows you the
cloth of Sherri Shepherd. You got to be cut from
a certain cloth to not want to participate in in
(20:57):
something just because of the headlines and the clicks that
it'll get you but because your heart is telling you
it don't make no sense to do so like who
am I to be an authority on that and I
appreciate you know people like Sherri that's why I told
her she my mentor y'all we're gonna see what happens
this has been another episode of the latest with Lauren
La Rosa I tell you guys every single episode y'all
could be anywhere with any old body but you choose
(21:18):
to be right here with me my lowriders I appreciate
you and I'll catch you in my next one
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