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Speaker 1 (00:11):
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Speaker 2 (00:20):
Welcome in Everybody.
Speaker 3 (00:21):
Savannah Jason joins us, now known as Bold Patriot Babe
on the Instagram and x and all the other places
where she is putting up her commentary. Savannah, Welcome to
the podcast. Appreciate you being here and thank you for
having How did you get into this? I always find
this is in it before we talk about the news
of the day. Maybe talk some iron stuff, the legacy
(00:44):
of Charlie kirk gen Z, where they're standing on all this.
Tell me about how you did this, how you got
into it?
Speaker 1 (00:51):
Yeah, absolutely, Well, thanks again for having me on. Really,
my background's kind of unique, nothing flashy at all. When
people ask what's your background, I'm like, really, I'm just
a homeschooler from Kentucky. Nothing big. I actually grew up
in a Christian conservative household. My parents always instill those
values into me. The biggest thing they wanted to make
sure me and my brother knew was the importance of
how to think of us, what to think in a
society that's pushing out in such a high degree, and
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they actually know. The founder of the company that I'm
now partnered with and I'm an ambassador for. His name
is Joe Marwitz. He started Defender Gear. It is a
patriotic clothing brand. They both have clothing, but they also
stand for the mission of wanting to teach the next
generation to appreciate America, to appreciate our values and our freedoms.
And it passed on the passion for conservativism to the
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next generation. And at the time he just needed a model.
So I actually ended up passing that and I was
excited to really just be able to embody what I
stood for from a clothing perspective, which ended up leading
to further opportunities. And now I do a lot of
his content creation and do a lot of speaking for
gen Z.
Speaker 2 (01:51):
That's very very cool. I have to say.
Speaker 3 (01:55):
I always like to hear that people kind of just
got into things because it aligned with their values and
their beliefs. Question about the homeschooling if I can before,
I'm just so curious. Without this, I have a little
a love mong gold Boy, and everyone's already talking my
ear off. I I live in Miami, me Mimi Beach,
and everyone's always talking my ear off about the schools,
and like I always got to get in and I
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look at them, and I don't really get into this
with people around here, but I kind of want to say,
I don't know, I think I might want to figure
out my own thing for my son here. And by
the way, I went to what would be considered I
think fancy schools growing up and for college and stuff,
and I don't think it's all that it's cracked up
to be. I don't know, talk to me about the
homeschooling thing a little bit.
Speaker 1 (02:34):
I honestly loved it. I feel like everybody kind of
has that stereotype of homeschoolers of wow, they don't know
how to like socialize or really talk to people. But
that's not true. I mean, I feel like there's so
much opportunities parents have to be actually to actually like
instill the education that they want their kids to have
one hundred percent they're in control of it. But it
was kind of cool. I got two different aspects of it.
So I was homeschooled, but I went to a co op.
We found a really good, like Christian conservative co op
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there in Kentucky where I was able to attend two
days a week, but my parents got to choose the
classes that I took, and all the other classes they
did at once todd there they taught me at home.
So it's a pretty neat opportunity.
Speaker 3 (03:07):
Yeah, that sounds really cool to me. I think that recently.
I mean, I know this for sure. My family in
New York City, and the New York City public school
system is incredibly bloated and wasteful and ineffective and bad,
and so then you have to go to a private school,
which is wildly expensive now in place like New York City.
I just we need to figure out better options. And
to me, homeschooling, getting a pod together or a co op,
(03:29):
as you said, these things also have can make a
lot of sense. All Right, you're very fired up about
gen Z keeping the mission of Charlie Kirk going and
being passionate conservatives. What are you seeing on the front
lines of gen Z. I mean, I'm an old millennial,
got some gray in my beard. I'm a gray beard millennial.
But gen Z, you guys, actually, by the numbers by polling,
(03:52):
there's some hope for conservatism for this country going forward.
Speaker 1 (03:57):
Yeah, No, there's definitely lots of hope for conservativism, and
I really do think it started with Charlie Kirk. I
didn't know who he even was, honestly until twenty twenty one.
He actually came to speak at UK's campus there in Kentucky,
and a friend in bided me. It was during his
gen Free tour, and he was encouraging my generation that hey,
even though you're young, you have a voice. And I've
never heard anybody say that before because I always knew
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I was young, but I was like, what impact can
I actually make or what can I really do for
our country, even if it is on a small scale.
That was the first time I heard of him. But
since then, since he started getting really popular in twenty
twenty twenty twenty one time frame, you've seen do progressively
a lot. I mean Trump getting in office. I feel
like it was a big part due to his impact
with gen Z. So I feel like gen Z overall
is on the uptick because of the impact he made
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him because he really did instill into us the importance
of not just being told and going with what the
media says, but actually questioning everything.
Speaker 3 (04:48):
No, it's a super important lesson for especially I think
kids in college these days, that they are being indoctrinated
and there's a lot of propaganda that they consume just
as part of their course load, as part of the
culture on campus. And you know, I actually just wrote
a book about dealing with some of this stuff with
the mind control tactics out there and transgenderism free example,
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this didn't really even when I was in school, which
I will tell you was like twenty something years ago. Now,
when I was on college campus, the trans issue was
not an issue really at all. You really didn't hear
about it. And in recent years, I know, it's become
so big that friends of mine like Riley Gaines, who
go on camp and who I know also did Turning
Point events, would go on campus to talk about it.
Speaker 2 (05:31):
They had to.
Speaker 3 (05:32):
They had well obviously Charlie was assassinated, but there are
threats of physical violence against women who go on campus
to talk about women getting to only compete against women
in sports. Like that's how powerful the propaganda is.
Speaker 1 (05:45):
Yeah, no, it's really, it's really powerful, really popular. And
like you said, I was actually gonna ask you about
that because really I don't know. It's because I was
a homeschooler. I'm like I really didn't even hear the
word transgenderism until twenty twenty one, twenty twenty two. That's
when it became like, I don't know popular to be woke,
I guess you can say. But prior to that, I
feel like I never heard about it, and society today
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might wanted to look like that. There's so many more
people that identify as wook. Are so many more people
that identify under the transgender is a movement than there
actually is. Like I looked up a stat recently, only
one point three of the United States people in the
United States identify as transgender. But they want you to
think it's like half of the United States, and it's
not true.
Speaker 3 (06:27):
It's a very small and even I think that one
point three is probably probably coming smaller than that. Yeah,
I think so, it's people who are non binary, and
it's some of it's just people who want obviously has
nothing to do with like even having the belief of transgenderism.
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Speaker 2 (07:29):
How are you feeling about Trump?
Speaker 3 (07:30):
At this stage of the game, A lot of people
are starting to at least chirp a little complaining online
about the situation in Iran. Where are you on this
and where would you say your your peers are your
fellow gen Z Conservatives?
Speaker 1 (07:42):
I feel like gen Z as a whole, especially like
the circles I run in kind of like you said,
you're hearing mixed things. Some people are extremely excited about
everything that's going on, other people are skeptical and questioning things.
It's one of those. I can definitely see both perspectives.
I'm very happy about the border security because we saw
the millions and millions of undocumented illegal immigrants that came
in under the Biden administration, and that's caused a lot
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of concerns for safety for a lot of people and
a lot of families in everyday life. So I love
how seriously he is taking that when it's come to
order security, when it's come just to overall safety of
our cities and being more considered about all the crime
and stuff that's going on. He's done a number for
that that Biden never could have even touched. So I'm
very very happy about that. I know gen Z does
have a lot of concern just about as far as
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the war goes, but you know, he did promise us
no forever wars, and I don't think this is going
to be one of those. It is on going from
what he's been saying recently, it's probably going to come
to a close soon.
Speaker 3 (08:33):
Do you have any particular feelings about Joe Kent resigning
as National counter Terrorism Director. You see that letter he
put out, He was saying, this is because basically Trump
is bending the need to Israel.
Speaker 2 (08:45):
I was a little surprised that I know Joe a
little bit.
Speaker 3 (08:48):
I've interviewed him a few times, special Forces vet, impressive
guy and pressed career. Lost his wife as she died
as she was killed in action in Syria of serving
air alongside special operations. And now I'm just I'm seeing
all these people come out to say kind of trash him,
saying that he was a leaker and that he was
leaking classified even and all the stuff, And I'm like, guys,
(09:10):
I feel like we need to be able to have
policy discussions without the politics of personal destruction happening. On
the right, I'm a little surprised by all this. Things
are getting a little messy out there, Savannah. On the right,
people are getting a little nasty.
Speaker 1 (09:23):
Yeah, a little bit. And I feel like a lot
of that does have to do with social media, because
I've noticed with my generation especially, we don't really just
listen to the news. Not many people in my generation,
I fel like nowadays sit down and listen to the news.
They go fully to social media, like the algorithm is
fully influencing gen z and how they think and what
they believe now more than ever. So as soon as
you see like one little controversial thing, they're gonna take
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that and run with it.
Speaker 3 (09:47):
Yeah, it seems like people there's more infighting among people
on the right, among conservatives that I've seen in a
long time. There's even saying some pretty crazy stuff about
each other publicly, which I won't get into here, but
there's a lot of this happening. Meanwhile, Trump it feels
like he's very he feels very on mission with all
of this. He's saying, this is maga, this is necessary
(10:09):
for the country, it's making us all safe for you know,
I think a lot more will be known about this
in the days ahead. And right now as I talk
to you, there's reporting out there that there's all this
concern about ground troops being used in around Our ground
troops being used around don't. I don't see that happening.
I would be shocked if that happened, But we'll have
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Speaker 2 (11:04):
Savannah. You married, you got kids? What situation?
Speaker 1 (11:08):
Actually just got married in December, So yeah, just got married,
very married.
Speaker 2 (11:12):
Yeah, so super so cool. Thanks so cool? That is
that is great. How did you and your husband meet?
Speaker 1 (11:18):
We actually met through this business arena we're in outside
of our traditional job. So my parents are entrepreneurs. They're
in the e commerce space and my dad was actually
his coaching mentor in business and introduced us. So started
off of being friends for a few years, ended up
to developing more. So here we are now.
Speaker 2 (11:33):
Oh, that's fantastic. Congratulations. I've been married a few years myself,
I got a little baby.
Speaker 3 (11:37):
I'm just gonna I'm sure everyone's telling you this, don't
wait too long to start having the kids on the
earlier side, you know, unsolicited advice, but I'm just telling you, Uh,
I know you're a young lady, but like this, I
have so many friends who put off having the kids
until they're in they're like mid thirties, they've been married
five years.
Speaker 2 (11:54):
You know. I'm like, yeah, not.
Speaker 1 (11:56):
Going to do that.
Speaker 3 (11:57):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's uh. You want to have the kid.
The baby's so fun. Honestly, Like, I'm as soon as
I'm done here with you on the podcast, I'm going
to hang out with my h I want to say
one year old. He's technical eleven month old, but he's
like absolutely the best part of my It's just goin
to crawl around to the ground with him and we
play like with blocks and stuff, and it's really fantastic.
Speaker 2 (12:15):
So I highly recommend, so be sorry. We cover a
lot here.
Speaker 3 (12:19):
We go from like Iran homeschooling through Iran to playing
blocks with the babies. You know, all these things very
very good. Whether did you ever get involved in turning
point stuff yourself or do you just appreciate the work
they were doing.
Speaker 1 (12:33):
I just appreciate the work they were doing. I really
like I followed Charlie with all he did for years
and watched a lot of his things. I never personally
was involved in a chapter. I know people who are,
and you know, they love being able to carry on
his legacy in that manner, but I never personally was.
I've just been using social media as the platform to
really use my voice.
Speaker 3 (12:49):
We need, we need more of gen z like you
that to come out and get on social media. And
you know, people, look, there's only so much that a guy.
I'm in my forties, right, a guy in his forties.
It's young men. I think it's easier, but like you know,
you're getting young women.
Speaker 1 (13:02):
No.
Speaker 2 (13:02):
They want to hear from their peers, and I understand that.
I get it.
Speaker 3 (13:05):
I respect it, So please encourage more like you to
get out there. I mean, I just saw your content
and that's I was like, you know what, I think.
I think she's got something to say people should should hear,
and I think that we need those voices because what
we don't want is what I when I grew up
if you were cool, you were you know, when I
was growing up, I should say, in things like Twitter
in the early days, even it's like, if you were cool,
(13:27):
you were liberal, you were a Democrat, right, And that
was just the expectation among all these people.
Speaker 2 (13:31):
And I was this weirdo. I was like this, uh
you know, this this freak. I was like, I don't
I kind of.
Speaker 3 (13:36):
Like America and like capitalism and and it's like this
is not a less not cool at all. Now Actually,
the whole coolness thing has has shifted, has changed, and
I think a lot of people recognize that patriotism, that
traditional values, that loving families, loving God, these things are.
Speaker 2 (13:53):
Actually the coolest.
Speaker 1 (13:55):
Uh.
Speaker 3 (13:55):
You know, I know that that would have been mocked
not long ago by our culture, but I think people
are seeing that more and more. So you can be
an important voice in that process. And Savannah, I appreciate
you making the time today. Where should weeple go to
follow your content and check out what you're.
Speaker 2 (14:09):
Up to.
Speaker 1 (14:11):
Follow me at Bold patriot bab. But I also want
to put a little to plug in for your book.
I've been reading Manufacturing Delusion recently. I'm only the beginning
of it, but I wish I had that back. I
wish I had a book like that back in twenty
twenty when all the mass hysteria was going on with
COVID and everything. As I'm reading through it, I'm like, wow,
you're literally seeing right there, yep, right there. Would you
do how social pressure over?
Speaker 3 (14:32):
Would you tell some of your gen Z content creators
and friends to get the book too? And and you know, yes,
read the word among I got a lot of people
in their forties, fifties, and sixties.
Speaker 2 (14:42):
Reading the book.
Speaker 3 (14:42):
I could use some people in their twenties reading it,
so get them a check out manual.
Speaker 1 (14:45):
Absolutely, I'm going to endorse it. I'm going to tell
my following because it's very insightful when everybody needs to
know about it.
Speaker 2 (14:50):
Please do, please do. Savannah. Great to see you, Thanks
so much, Thanks so much.
Speaker 1 (14:54):
Have a good one.