March 20, 2025 • 20 mins
Actor and filmmaker Kevin Sorbo joins the show to discuss politics, Hollywood, and independent filmmaking. He shares his perspective on RFK Jr.’s health policies, the entertainment industry's shift away from original ideas, and his experiences with Trump. Sorbo also talks about his independent studio, Sorbo Studios and upcoming projects.
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Speaker 1 (00:11):
You're listening to the Buck Sexton Show podcast, make sure
you subscribe to the podcast on the iHeartRadio app or
wherever you get your podcasts. Kevin sorbo joins us. Now
you all know him as a filmmaker, an actor, a director, Hercules,
the Legendary Journeys, which was a great show, and so
many other movies and projects he's been evolved in. Kevin, really,
(00:35):
good to see you, man. How are you doing doing great?
Speaker 2 (00:38):
You caught me? Is a busy day for me here.
I just this is the only hour slot ahead to
work out, so so I'm so sweaty. I just finished
working out because you know, you got what's that governor
from Illinois, JB. Pritz kerk is that Yes, he is
not fighting back on RFKSE health policies. And I just
want to look as healthy as JB looks. You know,
That's what I'm kind of shooting for right now. So
feel free to post a picture up on that guy.
(01:00):
What a physical specimen, that dude.
Speaker 1 (01:02):
I'm a little surprised. I mean, there's so many things
that he could do, especially as he's talking about running
for president, that he should do, and and it does
to be to be at his level of of of
weight actually really does affect your health. Uh well, you know,
I was going to ask you about the dog stuff,
but let me start actually with the RFK junior stuff.
What what because you're into MAHA make America healthy again?
Speaker 2 (01:23):
What? Yeah?
Speaker 1 (01:24):
What? What's top of the agenda as far as you're
concerned for RFK to get going with?
Speaker 2 (01:30):
You know, it's interesting. He his his people, and then
he called me later when he was he was heading
to run for president and he asked me if I
would support him because we've met a couple of times
through the years at charity events, at skiing events and things,
and he's he knows ry stand politically. He's always been
a very cool guy to me, I mean like always,
And so I told him, I said, well, you know,
you're still a little too far left for me, but
(01:53):
I love some of the stuff you're doing. And because
you know, every ever since COVID, when government reared its
ugly head and showed how much he loved using fear
as a weapon against it's uh, it's people, and I
fought back. I got canceled as like most other people did.
I mean, Zuckerberg and his minions took me down from
posting that truth about all these things. And I got
two really good doctor friends of mine. I never will
(02:14):
name them, but they told me the whole time that
I said, six feet is ridiculous. Yes, masks don't work, Yes,
all these things. So I'm posting it because I know
doctors agreed with me. But that's what got me pulled
out of Facebook. But I got to throw the thing
I think that got me almost pulled out of Twitter
before Musk bought it. I said, if you want to
go rid of COVID, tell the Clinton's COVID's got something
(02:35):
on him. It'll be the first virus to mysteriously commit suicide.
Speaker 1 (02:39):
COVID's gonna hang itself in a cell with no cameras
on suddenly.
Speaker 2 (02:43):
Yeah, of course it will, of course it will. No.
But I love what he's doing. I love the fact
that he's out there and he's brave about doing he's
speaking the truth about it, and I love the fact
that he mixed it. You're throwing musk in that mix,
and I just think it's fantastic. That was showing how
much waste is out there. We've all known that. We've
all known the government is just a big fat belly
pig that just throws money around, you know, fifty million
(03:05):
dollars for condom, condoms and gods or whatever it was.
I mean, this is just so stupid to me that
doing this and there's not a bigger more people aren't
upset about it. You know, even even you know, even shouldn't.
Speaker 1 (03:15):
Should we all should we all be able to agree
Kevin that that money going to scammers from the federal
government or dead people or whatever. That's just not good, right,
There's there's no good to be achieved from this, So
stopping it would be a good thing. But because Elon
is doing it on behalf of Trump, now it's not
a good thing somehow. That that's that's weird.
Speaker 2 (03:37):
You remember, prior to twenty fifteen, everybody wanted Trump on
the talk shows, you know, from Oprah to whoever come
on my talk show? Do do a cameo in my movie.
The minute he said I'm gonna I'm on the you know,
we're gonna run for a Republican side, they just went nuts.
And it's just it's amazing to me the anger that
the people have when they're supposed to be the Party
of love. You know, remember the sixties when the whole
(03:58):
hippie boom was going on and free love and the
rock and roll was exploding, and the whole thing was
don't trust a man, don't trust a man. And the
first thing that in COVID hit everybody and left said
trust a man, trust the government. And it's a laughs
maat then and they yell at me to you never
question the science, Well, what do you think science is?
Science is questioning. That's what it's all about. So the
(04:18):
insanity of what they were doing and what the hell
the plane and the hypocrisy that they blatantly show every
bloody day is just amazing to me.
Speaker 1 (04:27):
It's it's craziness. And I will say one thing about
about Trump, it's this isn't a complaint, but it has
made things a little bit harder. This administration is doing
so much so fast that to try to cover it
day to day as I do for three hours, we
you know, I could have done a whole show today
just on what he's doing with the border, immigration enforcement
(04:49):
and the EPA. But he's also trying to end the
rush of Ukraine war. He's also getting the tariffs going
and trying to get more cooperation from Canada and Mexican.
I mean, it's it's all cylinders. It's it's pretty amazing
to watch.
Speaker 2 (05:02):
Well, honestly, can Canada really win this battle? Can Mexico
really win? I mean, they both need America more than
we need them. And I know they're they'll get hate
that because I look, I live in Vancouver five years
some of the series shut movies up there. I love
it up there. It's a beautiful country. The people I've
worked with are fantastic. But the reality is both our
countries were as founded around the same time in the
(05:22):
late seventeen hundreds. We're three hundred and forty million, they're
thirty million. If it was so perfect, their government was
so amazing, and the Canadian dream was as big as
American dream. How come that country hasn't hasn't grown. There's
just not you know, they're dwarf compared to our population.
And everybody wants to leave their country. Everybody wants to
come to America. There's a reason for that. And now
we got all these people that are in America and
(05:43):
the ones that move here want to turn us into
the countries they left, or turn us into a third
world or socialist country. It's amazing.
Speaker 1 (05:51):
What do you think Trump? I don't know if you've
seen recently, he's brought it up a bunch of times
and very clearly, like he says Canada fifty first state
in some variation of this. Is he just poking them
and being Trump? Or is there more to it than that.
Speaker 2 (06:07):
I'm thinking he's poking them. It's kind of I would
never let that happen anyway. I just I think it's funny.
I get a kick out of it. I don't think
I don't believe it for a minute, and it really
won't happen, but it's it is fun The guy is
actually very funny guy. I've known him for twenty years.
When I golfed him the first time back in two
thousand and five at lunch, I told him, I said,
(06:28):
this is two thousand and five. I said, you know what,
I want a businessman to run America. We are a
business not a politician that's been in office for thirty
forty years. And he said, yeah, that'd be a good idea,
not knowing ten years later he was gonna throw his
hat in the ring.
Speaker 1 (06:41):
Yeah, it's that is one. Actually, I would say there
are two things about Trump that are not nearly as
widely known as as are known by the people that
have actually spent time with him. He's a really warm,
nice guy. You know. You see this sort of the
bravado and the you know, the bragadocio and everything on TV,
(07:02):
and yeah, you know there's there's sure like he's a
he's an entertainer, he's a presenter, all that, but he's
actually a really you know, I mean I've met him
my wife and know with different friends of mine. He
is really kind to people in person, but also is
really funny, like constantly says funny things.
Speaker 2 (07:22):
Yeah, he's very sarcastic and it's funny. You know, when
you golf with the guy, he'll get out of his
car to you go fast. And the Secret Service. We've
got six guys with us all the time in their
own golf carts that like the two guys that go
ahead to check out. You know, they are the ones
that found the gun coming through the fence there on
that front nine a Trump International, but they also are
there to make sure the people in front know he's
coming through. You gotta let him play through. Everyone that
(07:43):
you play through he drives up to them, gets out
of the cart, shakes everybody's hands, says thanks for being here.
Hope to see inside for lunch. Do you think other
presidents take the tend to do that. I don't think so.
And this is pretty amazing. And he's always been to me,
he's always been a pretty cool guy. I saw him
the Sunday before he did speak and speak in front
of Congress when the Democrats acted like a bunch of
seventh grade mean girls, little babies. He saw me. He's
(08:07):
walking on the little cat walk up there, he points
out him. He has me come over there, shakes my hand.
I said, you remember my wife Sam. He goes, of course,
he looks here and he says, you know something, Sam,
this guy is great, but you're better than he is.
So I thought that was pretty funny. He was just
giving us a hard time, but he takes the time
to do stuff like that.
Speaker 1 (08:23):
You know the uh they all had fun with it,
So I think I think it's it's something that everyone
can kind of laugh about. You know this. There's the
All In podcast and one of the guys is Ta
math Uh who has you know what I'm talking about?
The all David Sachs. You know these guys have a
big podcast, yep. But it was funny. They talked about
it on their show and it kind of went viral.
His little clip that when Trump met Tremath and his wife.
(08:46):
This is his second wife, who's like a like a
beautiful Italian model, you know, like you know, twenty eight
years old or something. And Trump Trump meets ta Math,
who you know, is a very smart guy, but he's
not about to win, Like he's not about to be
cast as Hercules. I'll just put it that way. He's
not about to be Hercules. And Trump pulls him aside
and goes, you must be really rich. He needs his way,
(09:09):
which I this thing is very funny, Very Trump, you know,
taken into treum Ath thought it was very funny. You know,
everyone had kind of a laugh about it. But that's
that's the guy you get with Donald Trump. I saw
something really interesting, which is a discussion. I wanted to.
I want to get your perspective on this because you
you've you're one of the rare ones who has been
involved in mass entertainment in a in a very successful way.
(09:33):
Obviously you know Hercules. We've talked about before, Massive and syndication,
Massive show. I used to watch it when I was
a kid or you know, teena. I forget how old
I was, but I used to watch the show. And
and you've also done more independent projects and have also
had success in the independent projects, right, And not a
lot of people that have really played in both sides
of that. You know, maybe they did something on the
(09:54):
on the big sort of mass entertainment side, but they
haven't done their on their independent stuff successfully. There was
a conversation about in Holly about how in Hollywood and
people friends of mine like Jesse Kelly and Matt Walsh
over Daily Wire, We're having this exchange on Twitter about
how anyone who says that it's okay that Hollywood's out
of ideas is just being absurd because there's so many
(10:16):
and they started ratting things off. And I've brought this
up on my own show before too, Like the Cortes
Conquest of Mexico could be the most amazing mini series
anybody's ever It's one of the most incredible stories in
all history. No one's been you know, Magellan's journey. There
was a lot of stuff about the Age of Exploration,
for example. But there's so many stories we're founding, so
many Why can't this stuff get made still? Or can
(10:38):
it get made? Do we need Elon to write a
billion dollar check for there to be a studio that
can actually do great entertainment? Again, Mel Gibson's talking about Malta.
We'll get to that a second. But what do you
make of this?
Speaker 2 (10:51):
Well, here's the thing. I think in the last fifteen
to twenty years, they've been a little more shy about
coming more original ideas because they've had success with these
Marvel and all that kind of stuff. And I'm gonna
have to say, Hercules kick that whole thing off. We
shot from ninety three to two thousand. We were the
first really actions stuff on TV with a couple spinoffs,
and everybody try to copy us from Conan and Robinhood
(11:14):
and Tarzan and Sende and all that stuff, and none
of those things were going at that time. But once
they kicked off, they just made variations of it. You know,
they'll do They'll do part two, part three, part four,
part five of the same thing over and over again
because they make two billion dollars. But even I'm getting
tired of watching these things because most of these action
movies are about seventy percent you know, watching a video game.
Speaker 1 (11:35):
It's all ga way too much GI.
Speaker 2 (11:38):
Yeah, so you kind of go, Okay, here we go again.
So I think it's starting to dieve a little bit.
But I think they're just they keep that cash cow
going if it's working. I think the independent world, like
where I'm in with my Sorbo Studios. Please go to
sorbostudios dot com. We do independent movies, and a lot
more independent production companies are also out there, and they're
they're a little more original with their ideas and the
(11:59):
things they want to put out there. I'm attracted to
true life stories. That's kind of what I do. I've
got four new movies coming up this here in three documentaries,
so I've been blessed to stay busy. I'm gonna direct
two more movies this year, and I'm taking off for
India to shoot an action movie there later in June.
So you know, thank god, I'm still busy because Hollywood
kicked me out eleven years ago because he can't be
a conservative and a Christian in Hollywood. That's a really
(12:20):
bad thing. And it's it's just it's just where they're
they're like little children. I think the gays are clearly
out of the closet in Hollywood. It's the it's the
conservatives there in the closet now, and they got to
wake up and stop being afraid.
Speaker 1 (12:32):
Do you know Mel at all? Mel Gibson, do you
guys have any contact together, because because because he has talked,
this has been a dream of mine for I've been
so you got to tell him Buck Sexton will will
write and consult for free on his Malta project. I've
been obsessed with the Siege of Malta for like decades.
I have multiple books about it. I love and I've
always said this could be an incredible movie because if
(12:52):
you put in the proper context, it really was in
sort of the same way that they had three hundred,
which is about the pass at Thermopylae and late Leonidas,
the Spartans. It really was a Western civilization, uh live
or die moment, you could argue, because if they had
taken Malta, they would have used it as a stage
in ground for the invasion of Italy proper. And this
(13:12):
was the Ottoman Empire, the most powerful empire in the
world at the time. And Mel is now is I've
heard he's making the or he's in the process of
trying to get a Malta series made. Have you heard
anything about that? And if you haven't, I just explained
to me. To make that's like a two hundred million
dollar movie or maybe a two hundred million dollar you know,
limited series five or ten episodes. How do we get that?
(13:35):
How do we get that made?
Speaker 2 (13:36):
Well? Once again, I find him at Elon Musk for
the first time to two weeks ago, and I think
it's chanced to talk to that long, but I would
you know, I would like a ten million dollar checking
out to make movies and I'll get him, get him
his money back. I've never lost money from my investors,
so we do movies in a three million range. And
Mel told me I talked to him about an hour
and a half not too long ago. He gave me
(13:58):
the whole idea of they've been him and his brother
have been writing the sequel to the Passion for the
last five years really, and they are going to make
that one as well. And he explained that movie to
me and I said, Mal, that's one hundred million dollar
movies to two hundred million dollar movie, just like the
number you mentioned from Multa. I shot a movie in Malta,
and that that that little place in the middle of
Mediterranean has gone through just attack after attack, centuries after centuries,
(14:23):
and uh, it's still there. In the history there, it's unbelievable.
I mean there's rooms that are back nine thousand years.
So I know that he's he's looking at that as well.
So he's got a lot juggling in the air right now.
And unfortunately the guy lost his home in the Folcades
fire as well, right, so you know, he's got a
lot of stuff on his brain.
Speaker 1 (14:41):
I'm when it comes to his body of work. I mean,
Braveheart is still my probably my favorite movie of all time. Uh,
and you know, I just absolutely loved that. I saw
when I was in the eighth grade and I've seen
it probably one hundred times since then. So he's done.
He's done some incredible stuff. I actually think Apocalypto, for
what it is is an under an underrated film. It's
pretty amazing, actually, you know what he did with that,
(15:03):
and to have it all in.
Speaker 2 (15:04):
The it was almost it was almost a documentary, yes, yes,
you know, and that the kind of.
Speaker 1 (15:09):
Feel to fact. So it was in in the native
language whatever, you know, whatever it was of the of
the you know, the the Aztecs or the Mayas or
wherever it was now I forget, but yeah, I just
it feels like there's been a change. Are are you?
Are you hearing and seeing the change in sentiment from
corporate America in this new era of of make of
(15:29):
the golden age of America Trump two point zero, Like,
there's Jeff Bezos is now at the was at the inauguration,
and and you know, suddenly The Apprentice is showing up
on Amazon. Like what could you get a meeting now
with Bezos or rather with whoever runs you know, Amazon
Studios to make to make a series, you know, with
(15:51):
with a fifty to one hundred million dollar budget or
do you think that that's coming?
Speaker 2 (15:56):
Right? I think it's coming and you can. I mean, look,
you know Zuckerberg the same way. You know, they did
a one one eighty flip when Trump got in office.
I don't know if he didn't get in office, I
don't think they'd be doing that. I think it's all
once again, the the the the the the exposure of
the hypocrisy of these people. But I look at it
as a positive thing anyway, because Trump sending know Trump
(16:16):
effect is real, and these guys. I would love to
have meetings with those guys. Like I said, I don't
I don't need a two hundred million dollars give it
to give it a guy like you know, Mel, Like
I said, I like the new movies that our budgets
and are managemble, makes sense and can get their money
back from my investors. That's the kind of things that
I'm doing. But Mel's Mel still got the powers. I
got the tops, and he's gonna jump on board and
(16:36):
do what he wants. But I know, I know he's
gonna do the sequel of Passion for one hundred percent.
I just don't think they're going to start that for
another year or so.
Speaker 1 (16:42):
Wow, that's that's it. That's a I mean, I remember
I saw that that's powerful and made it. It was tough,
made a tremendous amount of money too, which was interesting
because at the time all the critics hated it, you know,
but it made like eight hundred million dollars or something.
Speaker 2 (16:56):
Well, you know, it's interesting. You know, in the Jewish community,
they don't like that that the Pharisees that they had
anything to do with Jesus and Jesus getting crucified. Well,
the Pharisees are were Jewish, and they had something to
do with it. They did not like the man they
were threatened by Jesus. So I think they're walking on water.
I think most of the Jewish community in Hollywood they
play the anti semi card pretty much when it just
(17:17):
serves their purpose. I mean, they don't otherwise they did.
They just kind of lay back. I don't remember many
of them being practiced Jews. And I lived in Hollywood
for a long time, and my entire teams, from managers
to agents, to publicists to whatever, were Jews, and I
go along. I'm just fine. But once I got to
a point where they said, oh, you can't work with
you anymore. But I've been to Israel like five or
six times, and I'll tell you the Jews and Israel
(17:38):
loved Trump, so totally opposite with the Jews community in
America for some reason. So I wish I could figure
that one out. But you know, as I tell my
liberal friends, I said, you know, behind closed doors, you're
gonna admit to yourselves that Trump's going to make your
lives better, but you will never admit it in public.
Speaker 1 (17:54):
Oh yeah, No, there's a lot of there's a lot
of that going on. Let me tell you. People they're like, yeah,
maybe the crazy stuff that was going on with the
Biden regime and the dementia puppet and everything, maybe it
wasn't such a good idea. Just one more thing for you.
I'm just wondering. I know you've you've that's a record
that you say you're able to make independent films that
make money. Just being able to make independent films is
(18:17):
I know people have tried to do this. That's you know,
impressive enough, But you've got that where Yeah, it's not
easy to do the fact that you actually do it
as a capitalist and it's successful, I tip my hat
to you on that. But if somebody gave you is
is there a historical epic that you would want to
do or a project of any kind that you would
want to do that if you had whatever budget you
(18:38):
needed to do it, you already have in your mind
this is what it would be.
Speaker 2 (18:42):
Yeah. I would like to redo the musical Jesus Christ
Superstar because when the original one came out in seventy
seventy one, it was a totally made a modern day.
It was totally affected by the hippie movement, the free
love movement, and it's just horrible. The soundtrack is fantastic.
Andrew Lloyd Weber did an amazing soundtrack. I told I
was telling Mell about this. When I said it, he goes, well,
good luck for that. But I was just like, I
(19:04):
would like to redo it and do it set in
biblical times, and I would book all the characters of
people that really could sing. I mean, it just there
were some great voices in that in the original, but
overall it was just it was it was. It was
just so bad. It was so it was so dated,
and it doesn't need to be dated. I mean, you
can go back to the forties and see Casablanca today.
(19:25):
It's not dated. It's awesome. It's such a great script.
I would love to do Jeremiah Johnson type of movie.
I'm a big fan of that Robert Redford movie, and
to me, it's but Jesus great superstar. I think for
eighty million dollars, I could do a great job with it.
Speaker 1 (19:40):
Kevin Sorber, everybody, Kevin, what's your production studio? Where's some folks?
Go online to see your next projects and support your work.
Speaker 2 (19:47):
Go to Sorbo Studios dot com at sorbostudios dot com.
A lot of great things come on the pipeline. I
got three great documentaries come down. One deals with the
Last Supper. It's called Eating with the Enemy. It's with
Brent Miller and Ingenuity Films. I did one with them
three years ago called Before the Rath that deals with
a second Coming. It was the number one document in
Amazon for five months. And I want to give a
plug from my buddy, Ian went veteran who does Patriot clothing.
(20:09):
Go on his website as well. Great guy and support
our events.
Speaker 1 (20:13):
Wonderful Kevin, thanks so much for all you do. Good
to talk to you.
Speaker 2 (20:17):
God bless Thanks.
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You're listening to the Buck Sexton Show podcast, make sure
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wherever you get your podcasts. Kevin sorbo joins us. Now
you all know him as a filmmaker, an actor, a director, Hercules,
the Legendary Journeys, which was a great show, and so
many other movies and projects he's been evolved in. Kevin, really,
(00:35):
good to see you, man. How are you doing doing great?
Speaker 2 (00:38):
You caught me? Is a busy day for me here.
I just this is the only hour slot ahead to
work out, so so I'm so sweaty. I just finished
working out because you know, you got what's that governor
from Illinois, JB. Pritz kerk is that Yes, he is
not fighting back on RFKSE health policies. And I just
want to look as healthy as JB looks. You know,
That's what I'm kind of shooting for right now. So
feel free to post a picture up on that guy.
(01:00):
What a physical specimen, that dude.
Speaker 1 (01:02):
I'm a little surprised. I mean, there's so many things
that he could do, especially as he's talking about running
for president, that he should do, and and it does
to be to be at his level of of of
weight actually really does affect your health. Uh well, you know,
I was going to ask you about the dog stuff,
but let me start actually with the RFK junior stuff.
What what because you're into MAHA make America healthy again?
Speaker 2 (01:23):
What? Yeah?
Speaker 1 (01:24):
What? What's top of the agenda as far as you're
concerned for RFK to get going with?
Speaker 2 (01:30):
You know, it's interesting. He his his people, and then
he called me later when he was he was heading
to run for president and he asked me if I
would support him because we've met a couple of times
through the years at charity events, at skiing events and things,
and he's he knows ry stand politically. He's always been
a very cool guy to me, I mean like always,
And so I told him, I said, well, you know,
you're still a little too far left for me, but
(01:53):
I love some of the stuff you're doing. And because
you know, every ever since COVID, when government reared its
ugly head and showed how much he loved using fear
as a weapon against it's uh, it's people, and I
fought back. I got canceled as like most other people did.
I mean, Zuckerberg and his minions took me down from
posting that truth about all these things. And I got
two really good doctor friends of mine. I never will
(02:14):
name them, but they told me the whole time that
I said, six feet is ridiculous. Yes, masks don't work, Yes,
all these things. So I'm posting it because I know
doctors agreed with me. But that's what got me pulled
out of Facebook. But I got to throw the thing
I think that got me almost pulled out of Twitter
before Musk bought it. I said, if you want to
go rid of COVID, tell the Clinton's COVID's got something
(02:35):
on him. It'll be the first virus to mysteriously commit suicide.
Speaker 1 (02:39):
COVID's gonna hang itself in a cell with no cameras
on suddenly.
Speaker 2 (02:43):
Yeah, of course it will, of course it will. No.
But I love what he's doing. I love the fact
that he's out there and he's brave about doing he's
speaking the truth about it, and I love the fact
that he mixed it. You're throwing musk in that mix,
and I just think it's fantastic. That was showing how
much waste is out there. We've all known that. We've
all known the government is just a big fat belly
pig that just throws money around, you know, fifty million
(03:05):
dollars for condom, condoms and gods or whatever it was.
I mean, this is just so stupid to me that
doing this and there's not a bigger more people aren't
upset about it. You know, even even you know, even shouldn't.
Speaker 1 (03:15):
Should we all should we all be able to agree
Kevin that that money going to scammers from the federal
government or dead people or whatever. That's just not good, right,
There's there's no good to be achieved from this, So
stopping it would be a good thing. But because Elon
is doing it on behalf of Trump, now it's not
a good thing somehow. That that's that's weird.
Speaker 2 (03:37):
You remember, prior to twenty fifteen, everybody wanted Trump on
the talk shows, you know, from Oprah to whoever come
on my talk show? Do do a cameo in my movie.
The minute he said I'm gonna I'm on the you know,
we're gonna run for a Republican side, they just went nuts.
And it's just it's amazing to me the anger that
the people have when they're supposed to be the Party
of love. You know, remember the sixties when the whole
(03:58):
hippie boom was going on and free love and the
rock and roll was exploding, and the whole thing was
don't trust a man, don't trust a man. And the
first thing that in COVID hit everybody and left said
trust a man, trust the government. And it's a laughs
maat then and they yell at me to you never
question the science, Well, what do you think science is?
Science is questioning. That's what it's all about. So the
(04:18):
insanity of what they were doing and what the hell
the plane and the hypocrisy that they blatantly show every
bloody day is just amazing to me.
Speaker 1 (04:27):
It's it's craziness. And I will say one thing about
about Trump, it's this isn't a complaint, but it has
made things a little bit harder. This administration is doing
so much so fast that to try to cover it
day to day as I do for three hours, we
you know, I could have done a whole show today
just on what he's doing with the border, immigration enforcement
(04:49):
and the EPA. But he's also trying to end the
rush of Ukraine war. He's also getting the tariffs going
and trying to get more cooperation from Canada and Mexican.
I mean, it's it's all cylinders. It's it's pretty amazing
to watch.
Speaker 2 (05:02):
Well, honestly, can Canada really win this battle? Can Mexico
really win? I mean, they both need America more than
we need them. And I know they're they'll get hate
that because I look, I live in Vancouver five years
some of the series shut movies up there. I love
it up there. It's a beautiful country. The people I've
worked with are fantastic. But the reality is both our
countries were as founded around the same time in the
(05:22):
late seventeen hundreds. We're three hundred and forty million, they're
thirty million. If it was so perfect, their government was
so amazing, and the Canadian dream was as big as
American dream. How come that country hasn't hasn't grown. There's
just not you know, they're dwarf compared to our population.
And everybody wants to leave their country. Everybody wants to
come to America. There's a reason for that. And now
we got all these people that are in America and
(05:43):
the ones that move here want to turn us into
the countries they left, or turn us into a third
world or socialist country. It's amazing.
Speaker 1 (05:51):
What do you think Trump? I don't know if you've
seen recently, he's brought it up a bunch of times
and very clearly, like he says Canada fifty first state
in some variation of this. Is he just poking them
and being Trump? Or is there more to it than that.
Speaker 2 (06:07):
I'm thinking he's poking them. It's kind of I would
never let that happen anyway. I just I think it's funny.
I get a kick out of it. I don't think
I don't believe it for a minute, and it really
won't happen, but it's it is fun The guy is
actually very funny guy. I've known him for twenty years.
When I golfed him the first time back in two
thousand and five at lunch, I told him, I said,
(06:28):
this is two thousand and five. I said, you know what,
I want a businessman to run America. We are a
business not a politician that's been in office for thirty
forty years. And he said, yeah, that'd be a good idea,
not knowing ten years later he was gonna throw his
hat in the ring.
Speaker 1 (06:41):
Yeah, it's that is one. Actually, I would say there
are two things about Trump that are not nearly as
widely known as as are known by the people that
have actually spent time with him. He's a really warm,
nice guy. You know. You see this sort of the
bravado and the you know, the bragadocio and everything on TV,
(07:02):
and yeah, you know there's there's sure like he's a
he's an entertainer, he's a presenter, all that, but he's
actually a really you know, I mean I've met him
my wife and know with different friends of mine. He
is really kind to people in person, but also is
really funny, like constantly says funny things.
Speaker 2 (07:22):
Yeah, he's very sarcastic and it's funny. You know, when
you golf with the guy, he'll get out of his
car to you go fast. And the Secret Service. We've
got six guys with us all the time in their
own golf carts that like the two guys that go
ahead to check out. You know, they are the ones
that found the gun coming through the fence there on
that front nine a Trump International, but they also are
there to make sure the people in front know he's
coming through. You gotta let him play through. Everyone that
(07:43):
you play through he drives up to them, gets out
of the cart, shakes everybody's hands, says thanks for being here.
Hope to see inside for lunch. Do you think other
presidents take the tend to do that. I don't think so.
And this is pretty amazing. And he's always been to me,
he's always been a pretty cool guy. I saw him
the Sunday before he did speak and speak in front
of Congress when the Democrats acted like a bunch of
seventh grade mean girls, little babies. He saw me. He's
(08:07):
walking on the little cat walk up there, he points
out him. He has me come over there, shakes my hand.
I said, you remember my wife Sam. He goes, of course,
he looks here and he says, you know something, Sam,
this guy is great, but you're better than he is.
So I thought that was pretty funny. He was just
giving us a hard time, but he takes the time
to do stuff like that.
Speaker 1 (08:23):
You know the uh they all had fun with it,
So I think I think it's it's something that everyone
can kind of laugh about. You know this. There's the
All In podcast and one of the guys is Ta
math Uh who has you know what I'm talking about?
The all David Sachs. You know these guys have a
big podcast, yep. But it was funny. They talked about
it on their show and it kind of went viral.
His little clip that when Trump met Tremath and his wife.
(08:46):
This is his second wife, who's like a like a
beautiful Italian model, you know, like you know, twenty eight
years old or something. And Trump Trump meets ta Math,
who you know, is a very smart guy, but he's
not about to win, Like he's not about to be
cast as Hercules. I'll just put it that way. He's
not about to be Hercules. And Trump pulls him aside
and goes, you must be really rich. He needs his way,
(09:09):
which I this thing is very funny, Very Trump, you know,
taken into treum Ath thought it was very funny. You know,
everyone had kind of a laugh about it. But that's
that's the guy you get with Donald Trump. I saw
something really interesting, which is a discussion. I wanted to.
I want to get your perspective on this because you
you've you're one of the rare ones who has been
involved in mass entertainment in a in a very successful way.
(09:33):
Obviously you know Hercules. We've talked about before, Massive and syndication,
Massive show. I used to watch it when I was
a kid or you know, teena. I forget how old
I was, but I used to watch the show. And
and you've also done more independent projects and have also
had success in the independent projects, right, And not a
lot of people that have really played in both sides
of that. You know, maybe they did something on the
(09:54):
on the big sort of mass entertainment side, but they
haven't done their on their independent stuff successfully. There was
a conversation about in Holly about how in Hollywood and
people friends of mine like Jesse Kelly and Matt Walsh
over Daily Wire, We're having this exchange on Twitter about
how anyone who says that it's okay that Hollywood's out
of ideas is just being absurd because there's so many
(10:16):
and they started ratting things off. And I've brought this
up on my own show before too, Like the Cortes
Conquest of Mexico could be the most amazing mini series
anybody's ever It's one of the most incredible stories in
all history. No one's been you know, Magellan's journey. There
was a lot of stuff about the Age of Exploration,
for example. But there's so many stories we're founding, so
many Why can't this stuff get made still? Or can
(10:38):
it get made? Do we need Elon to write a
billion dollar check for there to be a studio that
can actually do great entertainment? Again, Mel Gibson's talking about Malta.
We'll get to that a second. But what do you
make of this?
Speaker 2 (10:51):
Well, here's the thing. I think in the last fifteen
to twenty years, they've been a little more shy about
coming more original ideas because they've had success with these
Marvel and all that kind of stuff. And I'm gonna
have to say, Hercules kick that whole thing off. We
shot from ninety three to two thousand. We were the
first really actions stuff on TV with a couple spinoffs,
and everybody try to copy us from Conan and Robinhood
(11:14):
and Tarzan and Sende and all that stuff, and none
of those things were going at that time. But once
they kicked off, they just made variations of it. You know,
they'll do They'll do part two, part three, part four,
part five of the same thing over and over again
because they make two billion dollars. But even I'm getting
tired of watching these things because most of these action
movies are about seventy percent you know, watching a video game.
Speaker 1 (11:35):
It's all ga way too much GI.
Speaker 2 (11:38):
Yeah, so you kind of go, Okay, here we go again.
So I think it's starting to dieve a little bit.
But I think they're just they keep that cash cow
going if it's working. I think the independent world, like
where I'm in with my Sorbo Studios. Please go to
sorbostudios dot com. We do independent movies, and a lot
more independent production companies are also out there, and they're
they're a little more original with their ideas and the
(11:59):
things they want to put out there. I'm attracted to
true life stories. That's kind of what I do. I've
got four new movies coming up this here in three documentaries,
so I've been blessed to stay busy. I'm gonna direct
two more movies this year, and I'm taking off for
India to shoot an action movie there later in June.
So you know, thank god, I'm still busy because Hollywood
kicked me out eleven years ago because he can't be
a conservative and a Christian in Hollywood. That's a really
(12:20):
bad thing. And it's it's just it's just where they're
they're like little children. I think the gays are clearly
out of the closet in Hollywood. It's the it's the
conservatives there in the closet now, and they got to
wake up and stop being afraid.
Speaker 1 (12:32):
Do you know Mel at all? Mel Gibson, do you
guys have any contact together, because because because he has talked,
this has been a dream of mine for I've been
so you got to tell him Buck Sexton will will
write and consult for free on his Malta project. I've
been obsessed with the Siege of Malta for like decades.
I have multiple books about it. I love and I've
always said this could be an incredible movie because if
(12:52):
you put in the proper context, it really was in
sort of the same way that they had three hundred,
which is about the pass at Thermopylae and late Leonidas,
the Spartans. It really was a Western civilization, uh live
or die moment, you could argue, because if they had
taken Malta, they would have used it as a stage
in ground for the invasion of Italy proper. And this
(13:12):
was the Ottoman Empire, the most powerful empire in the
world at the time. And Mel is now is I've
heard he's making the or he's in the process of
trying to get a Malta series made. Have you heard
anything about that? And if you haven't, I just explained
to me. To make that's like a two hundred million
dollar movie or maybe a two hundred million dollar you know,
limited series five or ten episodes. How do we get that?
(13:35):
How do we get that made?
Speaker 2 (13:36):
Well? Once again, I find him at Elon Musk for
the first time to two weeks ago, and I think
it's chanced to talk to that long, but I would
you know, I would like a ten million dollar checking
out to make movies and I'll get him, get him
his money back. I've never lost money from my investors,
so we do movies in a three million range. And
Mel told me I talked to him about an hour
and a half not too long ago. He gave me
(13:58):
the whole idea of they've been him and his brother
have been writing the sequel to the Passion for the
last five years really, and they are going to make
that one as well. And he explained that movie to
me and I said, Mal, that's one hundred million dollar
movies to two hundred million dollar movie, just like the
number you mentioned from Multa. I shot a movie in Malta,
and that that that little place in the middle of
Mediterranean has gone through just attack after attack, centuries after centuries,
(14:23):
and uh, it's still there. In the history there, it's unbelievable.
I mean there's rooms that are back nine thousand years.
So I know that he's he's looking at that as well.
So he's got a lot juggling in the air right now.
And unfortunately the guy lost his home in the Folcades
fire as well, right, so you know, he's got a
lot of stuff on his brain.
Speaker 1 (14:41):
I'm when it comes to his body of work. I mean,
Braveheart is still my probably my favorite movie of all time. Uh,
and you know, I just absolutely loved that. I saw
when I was in the eighth grade and I've seen
it probably one hundred times since then. So he's done.
He's done some incredible stuff. I actually think Apocalypto, for
what it is is an under an underrated film. It's
pretty amazing, actually, you know what he did with that,
(15:03):
and to have it all in.
Speaker 2 (15:04):
The it was almost it was almost a documentary, yes, yes,
you know, and that the kind of.
Speaker 1 (15:09):
Feel to fact. So it was in in the native
language whatever, you know, whatever it was of the of
the you know, the the Aztecs or the Mayas or
wherever it was now I forget, but yeah, I just
it feels like there's been a change. Are are you?
Are you hearing and seeing the change in sentiment from
corporate America in this new era of of make of
(15:29):
the golden age of America Trump two point zero, Like,
there's Jeff Bezos is now at the was at the inauguration,
and and you know, suddenly The Apprentice is showing up
on Amazon. Like what could you get a meeting now
with Bezos or rather with whoever runs you know, Amazon
Studios to make to make a series, you know, with
(15:51):
with a fifty to one hundred million dollar budget or
do you think that that's coming?
Speaker 2 (15:56):
Right? I think it's coming and you can. I mean, look,
you know Zuckerberg the same way. You know, they did
a one one eighty flip when Trump got in office.
I don't know if he didn't get in office, I
don't think they'd be doing that. I think it's all
once again, the the the the the the exposure of
the hypocrisy of these people. But I look at it
as a positive thing anyway, because Trump sending know Trump
(16:16):
effect is real, and these guys. I would love to
have meetings with those guys. Like I said, I don't
I don't need a two hundred million dollars give it
to give it a guy like you know, Mel, Like
I said, I like the new movies that our budgets
and are managemble, makes sense and can get their money
back from my investors. That's the kind of things that
I'm doing. But Mel's Mel still got the powers. I
got the tops, and he's gonna jump on board and
(16:36):
do what he wants. But I know, I know he's
gonna do the sequel of Passion for one hundred percent.
I just don't think they're going to start that for
another year or so.
Speaker 1 (16:42):
Wow, that's that's it. That's a I mean, I remember
I saw that that's powerful and made it. It was tough,
made a tremendous amount of money too, which was interesting
because at the time all the critics hated it, you know,
but it made like eight hundred million dollars or something.
Speaker 2 (16:56):
Well, you know, it's interesting. You know, in the Jewish community,
they don't like that that the Pharisees that they had
anything to do with Jesus and Jesus getting crucified. Well,
the Pharisees are were Jewish, and they had something to
do with it. They did not like the man they
were threatened by Jesus. So I think they're walking on water.
I think most of the Jewish community in Hollywood they
play the anti semi card pretty much when it just
(17:17):
serves their purpose. I mean, they don't otherwise they did.
They just kind of lay back. I don't remember many
of them being practiced Jews. And I lived in Hollywood
for a long time, and my entire teams, from managers
to agents, to publicists to whatever, were Jews, and I
go along. I'm just fine. But once I got to
a point where they said, oh, you can't work with
you anymore. But I've been to Israel like five or
six times, and I'll tell you the Jews and Israel
(17:38):
loved Trump, so totally opposite with the Jews community in
America for some reason. So I wish I could figure
that one out. But you know, as I tell my
liberal friends, I said, you know, behind closed doors, you're
gonna admit to yourselves that Trump's going to make your
lives better, but you will never admit it in public.
Speaker 1 (17:54):
Oh yeah, No, there's a lot of there's a lot
of that going on. Let me tell you. People they're like, yeah,
maybe the crazy stuff that was going on with the
Biden regime and the dementia puppet and everything, maybe it
wasn't such a good idea. Just one more thing for you.
I'm just wondering. I know you've you've that's a record
that you say you're able to make independent films that
make money. Just being able to make independent films is
(18:17):
I know people have tried to do this. That's you know,
impressive enough, But you've got that where Yeah, it's not
easy to do the fact that you actually do it
as a capitalist and it's successful, I tip my hat
to you on that. But if somebody gave you is
is there a historical epic that you would want to
do or a project of any kind that you would
want to do that if you had whatever budget you
(18:38):
needed to do it, you already have in your mind
this is what it would be.
Speaker 2 (18:42):
Yeah. I would like to redo the musical Jesus Christ
Superstar because when the original one came out in seventy
seventy one, it was a totally made a modern day.
It was totally affected by the hippie movement, the free
love movement, and it's just horrible. The soundtrack is fantastic.
Andrew Lloyd Weber did an amazing soundtrack. I told I
was telling Mell about this. When I said it, he goes, well,
good luck for that. But I was just like, I
(19:04):
would like to redo it and do it set in
biblical times, and I would book all the characters of
people that really could sing. I mean, it just there
were some great voices in that in the original, but
overall it was just it was it was. It was
just so bad. It was so it was so dated,
and it doesn't need to be dated. I mean, you
can go back to the forties and see Casablanca today.
(19:25):
It's not dated. It's awesome. It's such a great script.
I would love to do Jeremiah Johnson type of movie.
I'm a big fan of that Robert Redford movie, and
to me, it's but Jesus great superstar. I think for
eighty million dollars, I could do a great job with it.
Speaker 1 (19:40):
Kevin Sorber, everybody, Kevin, what's your production studio? Where's some folks?
Go online to see your next projects and support your work.
Speaker 2 (19:47):
Go to Sorbo Studios dot com at sorbostudios dot com.
A lot of great things come on the pipeline. I
got three great documentaries come down. One deals with the
Last Supper. It's called Eating with the Enemy. It's with
Brent Miller and Ingenuity Films. I did one with them
three years ago called Before the Rath that deals with
a second Coming. It was the number one document in
Amazon for five months. And I want to give a
plug from my buddy, Ian went veteran who does Patriot clothing.
(20:09):
Go on his website as well. Great guy and support
our events.
Speaker 1 (20:13):
Wonderful Kevin, thanks so much for all you do. Good
to talk to you.
Speaker 2 (20:17):
God bless Thanks.
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