June 15, 2026 • 16 mins
Buck Sexton is joined by Zia Yusuf, Shadow Home Secretary for Reform UK, for a wide-ranging discussion on crime, policing, immigration, free speech, and the future of British politics. Yusuf reacts to the public outrage surrounding the Henry Nowak case, argues that diversity and policing policies have undermined equal treatment under the law, and explains why Reform UK believes Britain has developed a "two-tier" justice system. The conversation also covers Prime Minister Keir Starmer, free speech concerns, immigration policy, digital ID proposals, and the growing political movement behind Reform UK.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
The Henry Novak case continues to get a lot of
attention over in the UK and here in the US.
He was told by the police you've been stabbed. I
don't think you have, mate, and that now has become
a very dark meme, a line used to express the
distress at how outrageous the police response was in the
(00:24):
Henry Novak case. We're joined now by Zia Usef. He
is rather Shadow Home Secretary for Reform UK. Zia, great
to have you on the program. Tell me first off,
the Novak case, how this was handled and the response
to it. Has it changed the dialogue about this at all?
You think how much of an impact is this having.
Speaker 2 (00:47):
Yeah, look the tragic and harrowing footage, the police body
count footage that I'm sure you've seen and many in
Britain have seen. It's obviously traumatic. It has indeed changed
the discourse. But that has happened cause the leader of
our party, Nigel Farage, has led that conversation and been
very frank and honest that this is just a demonstrable
(01:09):
case of anti white prejudice in British policing. And I
want to make a point for your listeners, which is
this is not just some aberration because within the Police
Code of Conduct in Britain in twenty twenty three, they
created the Race Action Plan, and that plan explicitly instructs
police officers in Britain to quote not treat people the same.
(01:31):
It explicitly instructs them to quote not to be color blind,
and it explicitly instructs them to quote prioritize offenses that
cause the most harm to ethnic minorities. So what you
just laid out there, poor Henry when he said repeatedly
to the attending officers that he had been stabbed, and
he got the reply, I don't think you have made.
When one considers that the last words poor Henry heard
(01:53):
on this earth were his rights being read to him
by Hampshire Police as they placed his hands in handcs
and put him under arrest, all of that is directly
downstream in the logical conclusion and consequence of that Race
Action Plan, which ironically, and he's literally on their website
ironically was brought to bear as a direct result of
(02:14):
the death of George Floyd. And within all of that,
you know the BLM madness that we saw, and it
was brought to bear under a so called Conservative government.
So the British people are now extremely upset and angry.
Speaker 3 (02:27):
Yes, they are angry about it.
Speaker 2 (02:28):
The proportion of the British population, according to a poll
that came out a couple of days ago, that believes
that there is anti white two tier policing in Britain
that has doubled inside two years. So, look, the British
people are very warm hearted and welcoming and generous, and
they have a lot of common sense, and I think
now their patience really is exhausted.
Speaker 1 (02:49):
What kind of action could be taken either by Home
Secretary or in Parliament, you think to address this, because
it sounds like from what you said, there is you know,
in the US, just for context, right these days, under
the Trump administration, and really more so because of recent
Supreme Court decisions, the equal protection clause of our Constitution
(03:14):
is finally starting to mean equal protection and not special protection.
And the tiers of sort of a racial hierarchy that
have been enshrined in law in this country for decades.
And you can even say that out loud and people
no longer kind of mockt They realize, no, that's actually true.
Speaker 4 (03:30):
That's what we've had here.
Speaker 1 (03:31):
What has to happen or what is happening in the UK,
so that there can be just the treatment of all
human beings or under UK jurisdiction as such and not
as individuals who fall into some kind of a racial
hierarchy of oppression and specific and special needs.
Speaker 2 (03:50):
So that's a really good way of putting it. And
you know, I want to make another point actually about
the Henry Novack murder. You know another example within that
of two TA justice is that his murderer was carrying
a deadly weapon. Obviously, in Britain, you know that you're
not allowed to carry firearms, You're not allowed to carry
deadly weapons on the street, including knives or daggers. The
(04:11):
murderer was wandering around would routinely wander around with a
ceremonial dagger, because there's a religious exemption that allows some
people if their religion says you need to carry a
dag around, you get to carry a dag around. And
again that is literally enshrined in the law. So if
there are two men carrying an identical deadly weapon on
Oxford Street in London, if one is seeking and one isn't,
(04:33):
the one who is seek would not be arrested and
the one who isn't would be. So it's dictionary definition
of two tiers. So what would need to happen. Look,
we've already laid out what we would do. Number one
would end all of those religious exemptions. Nobody's going to
get to carry daggers around on our streets in Britain.
Speaker 3 (04:51):
That will be number one.
Speaker 2 (04:51):
Number two repeal all of these race action plans, basically
repeal the whole DEI program across all of our PubL institutions.
And so in that sense, it is a similar story.
I mean, remember Britain was downstream. There was a cultural
revolution in Britain to post George Floyd, right, you know
the BBC.
Speaker 3 (05:12):
All they did was talk about it for months.
Speaker 2 (05:14):
They created one hundred million pound diversity fund dedicated to
basically enshrining anti white prejudice in their recruitment practices, and
again all as a result of b Adam. So we
just need to repeal all of that nonsense, stop the
DEI stuff, and as you said, make it crystal clear
that the police and the justice system, yes, must be
color blind. They should not care what religion you are,
(05:37):
you know, what race you are. Everybody should be equal
under the law, and it sounds crazy that this should
be a case that would need to be made by
politicians and when you're railing against the system, but you know,
so horrifying. Now are the consequences of this. I think
the British people have had enough.
Speaker 1 (05:56):
Can you just help it? Because you're, as you know,
speaking to an overwhelmingly that American We have some Canadians
too who listen and around the world on US military basis,
so we could see the people in South Korea and Germany,
but those are Americans too who are listening. You're speaking
to American audience, and I think just for them to
hear this is something that has been largely forgotten, certainly
(06:17):
not the George Floyd thing, and we talk about it
on our show a lot, but that the UK would
have also had this mass race panic in response to
a police incident with a career fell in having a
fentanyl overdose on the street in Minneapolis. How did just like,
(06:40):
can you know, you see what I'm saying? Can you
explain why would the UK system have such a spasms
of racial guilt in response to what happened in America?
Speaker 2 (06:51):
Yeah, it was extraordinary. It was absolutely extraordinary and look
at swept Britain away. I mean I would call it
a sense of crowd madness, of crowds, really no one
being willing, you know, to the degree there are people
in these boardrooms like the BBC when they were doing
this stuff who.
Speaker 3 (07:07):
Had a different opinion.
Speaker 2 (07:07):
They were too scared to air that opinion, right because
obviously the moment you air an opinion and say, you know,
maybe our soccer players should not be should not need
to kneel before every game forever now because of something
that happened in America, if you were to air such
a view, the likelihood is your career would be destroyed
because people would accuse you of being racist. And so
(07:29):
powerful now is the accusation of racism being called that
word that in Britain. At least the evidence of the
Henry novakke shows that it allows you, if you're a minority,
to stab a man repeatedly and have the police attend
and handcuff that man as he bleeds to death. And
when you read that race Action Plan, it literally says
that Hampshire Police have a quote zero tolerance approach to racism.
(07:52):
And I want to emphasize again the BBC are state
broadcaster which you're forced to contribute to paying for as
if you're an adult. In Britain, they created one hundred
million pound diversity fund. They created a program after program,
they created special programs for children to indoctrinate them about
this and that is another thing that has really infuriated people.
And Nigel Farras are leaders made this point. Look at
(08:13):
the extraordinary difference in the response to poor Henry Novak's
death in Britain, where most politicians didn't even want to
talk about it. If reformer Nigel had not made this
case a national issue in the way that he has done,
it would have just been swept under the carpet. And
there are still, you know, the majority view of the
media in Britain, the establishment media and establishing politicians is quote,
(08:35):
don't politicize this the same politician you know, the current
home sectory of Britain. Savannaha Mood tweeted out after BLM
that she was furious about the quote unspeakable outrage of
George Floyd's death and it took months for her to
comment on Henry Novak, and then she came out and said,
don't be angry about it. Keir Starmer says, you shouldn't
(08:56):
be angry about this, so you know, believe you're absolutely right.
Not only was it totally insane in my view. I
mean I went to a small Christian school in the
suburbs of London, and as an alumnus of the school,
I don't get many emails from the school. You know,
they might update you about the new cricket school in
a cricket pavilion or something. I got this really long
(09:17):
detailed email post George Floyd about how the school was
reconsidering everything and you know, going to make all of
these changes, and even I couldn't believe. But I was
running my company at the time, I couldn't believe what
I was seeing. And again, the stark contrast between that
the reaction to George Floyd's death in America relative to
what's happened to Henry from our establishment and from our media,
(09:40):
I think is disgusting.
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We're speaking to Zia Usef. He is the Shadow Home
Secretary of Reform UK and talking to us about what's
going on over there.
Speaker 4 (10:50):
How bad is Keir starmer.
Speaker 1 (10:52):
He he's bad enough that in right wing discourse, conservative
analysis in this country he pops up on our radar
as a clown.
Speaker 4 (11:01):
So I know he's not doing a good job. But
what is he doing over there?
Speaker 3 (11:04):
Yeah, clown is a sensible you know.
Speaker 2 (11:06):
That's that's a pretty accurate assessment of him as a
politician and the political leader. And that's not just a
right wing view. I mean he is now just objectively,
if you look at the polling, he's the most unpopular
British Prime minister since records began, and he's done that
in just two years, which is, you know, normally it's
not easy being in office, right, It's.
Speaker 1 (11:25):
Kind of impressive, actually is he When you think about it,
you've got to give credit word to do it.
Speaker 2 (11:28):
The credit words are exactly quite remarkable. But this is
a man who doesn't believe in anything. You know, he
tries to. He very much sees himself as a technocrat.
The problem is he's deeply incompetent and can't run a bath,
so he really has no redeeming qualities. But there is
actually a menacing side of him too, So you know,
(11:48):
maybe if you say clown, the clown sort of makes
it sound a little bit harmful to be amusing.
Speaker 4 (11:53):
He's not amusing. He's dangered. He's damaged.
Speaker 2 (11:55):
I mean he is, he is a You know, people
are being arrested for speech in Britain. You know, we
don't have a constitution right and so things like freedom
of speech. And I know there are many battles that
happen in America legally around these things too, but you know,
freedom of speech is not enshrined in the way that
it is here, right, so we are very vulnerable to
what's happening now, which is the British government, particularly under Starmer,
(12:16):
taking the view that anti government speech needs to be
clamped down upon. And you know, we're seeing more people
than ever being arrested and jailed for speech offenses. And
then we're also seeing violent criminals, murderers and rapists being
released from jail earlier, extensibly to create space for people
who wrote things on social media.
Speaker 3 (12:34):
So that's very dangerous.
Speaker 2 (12:35):
Secondly, you know, he he's been really focused on taking
away rights in terms of things like jury trial. So
this is an ancient right dating back to the Magna
Carta for us. His Justice secretary is now saying he's
going to start withdrawing the right to jury trials from
many people. Then you could look at what he's trying
to do with digital id So this is really again
(12:55):
is about you know, we've got this Orwellian quote Online
Safety Act, which you know it's exactly as anyone familiar
with all Well's work will know how these pieces of
legislation work. So there's effectively now legislation that will mean
that in order to it basically ends anonymous access to
the Internet in the UK. That's effectively what is now
(13:16):
going to happen because they're trying to introduce digital ideas,
so you can basically be removed from being able to
access many of the things you would take for granted
as a private citizen if the government chooses so sort
of like step up beyond even something like de banking.
So it's all really dangerous stuff. And obviously, like the
so called conservative prime ministers before him, he has no
(13:39):
intention of actually enforcing our border, and therefore thousands and
thousands of military age men from countries like Afghanistan, Iraq, Syria,
Iran are streaming into our country on small boats and
then being given free taxpayer funded accommodation, free healthcare, free meals,
three days out.
Speaker 3 (13:56):
I'm not making this up.
Speaker 2 (13:57):
You know, they literally get three days outing activities, trips
to the cinema. I mean, I could go on, all
funded by long suffering British taxpayers. So he is without
a doubt an awful, awful Prime Minister. But I have
to say too, it's important to your listeners understand that
most of the nightmare that you are seeing manifest on
(14:18):
our streets in the form not just of the tragedy
of Henry Novak, but also the attempted beheading by that
lunatic in Belfast, all of this stuff actually happened under
the fourteen years of the so called Conservative government. They're
the ones worshipped in twelve million people in fourteen years,
which is the equivalent of a fifth of our population.
And that's just the ones who came legally. So that's
(14:38):
why reform exists, where a new startup, insurgent party that
is listening to and speaking to and trying to represent
the common sense British people who are sick and tired
of the two old parties, which are just two sides
of the same coin.
Speaker 1 (14:53):
Well, you have a lot of sympathizers and people that
view the thing few things the same way you do
here in the US. I can't we can't vote in
your election, so we can't. We can't really help you
that much. But the special relationship is obviously critical.
Speaker 3 (15:09):
And oh you say that, Sorry, not you say that.
Speaker 2 (15:11):
But insanely foreign nationals can vote in a lot of
our elections. And I'm not advocating that you do that
because as a I don't think that's a good idea.
But that's insane, and not even in a fraudulent way,
you know.
Speaker 3 (15:21):
Legislation.
Speaker 2 (15:22):
We've got a guy in our Scottish Parliament who is
on a temporary visa and has just won a seat
to be a legislator in Scotland.
Speaker 3 (15:29):
I'm not kidding. He's an Indian national.
Speaker 2 (15:31):
He's not even allowed to work in Britain, so if
Starbucks try to hire me, you wouldn't be able to
get a job at Starbucks.
Speaker 3 (15:36):
But he is now a legislator. I'm not making this up.
Speaker 2 (15:39):
And the reason that has happened is because a law
was passed in the last twelve months to enable foreign
nationals to become legislators in Scotland.
Speaker 3 (15:47):
So that is what we are up.
Speaker 1 (15:48):
Okay here in Britain well and some wild stuff Reform UK.
What's your main site? Where If anyone wants to learn
more about it, which I'm sure some people will, where
should they go?
Speaker 2 (15:59):
So you can follow me on social media? My Twitter
is Zia usuf UK, Instagram Zia dot yusuf and our
website is Reform Party dot UK.
Speaker 4 (16:08):
Zia. Stay in the good fight, sir, Thanks for being
here
Speaker 3 (16:11):
Thanks for having me.
The Henry Novak case continues to get a lot of
attention over in the UK and here in the US.
He was told by the police you've been stabbed. I
don't think you have, mate, and that now has become
a very dark meme, a line used to express the
distress at how outrageous the police response was in the
(00:24):
Henry Novak case. We're joined now by Zia Usef. He
is rather Shadow Home Secretary for Reform UK. Zia, great
to have you on the program. Tell me first off,
the Novak case, how this was handled and the response
to it. Has it changed the dialogue about this at all?
You think how much of an impact is this having.
Speaker 2 (00:47):
Yeah, look the tragic and harrowing footage, the police body
count footage that I'm sure you've seen and many in
Britain have seen. It's obviously traumatic. It has indeed changed
the discourse. But that has happened cause the leader of
our party, Nigel Farage, has led that conversation and been
very frank and honest that this is just a demonstrable
(01:09):
case of anti white prejudice in British policing. And I
want to make a point for your listeners, which is
this is not just some aberration because within the Police
Code of Conduct in Britain in twenty twenty three, they
created the Race Action Plan, and that plan explicitly instructs
police officers in Britain to quote not treat people the same.
(01:31):
It explicitly instructs them to quote not to be color blind,
and it explicitly instructs them to quote prioritize offenses that
cause the most harm to ethnic minorities. So what you
just laid out there, poor Henry when he said repeatedly
to the attending officers that he had been stabbed, and
he got the reply, I don't think you have made.
When one considers that the last words poor Henry heard
(01:53):
on this earth were his rights being read to him
by Hampshire Police as they placed his hands in handcs
and put him under arrest, all of that is directly
downstream in the logical conclusion and consequence of that Race
Action Plan, which ironically, and he's literally on their website
ironically was brought to bear as a direct result of
(02:14):
the death of George Floyd. And within all of that,
you know the BLM madness that we saw, and it
was brought to bear under a so called Conservative government.
So the British people are now extremely upset and angry.
Speaker 3 (02:27):
Yes, they are angry about it.
Speaker 2 (02:28):
The proportion of the British population, according to a poll
that came out a couple of days ago, that believes
that there is anti white two tier policing in Britain
that has doubled inside two years. So, look, the British
people are very warm hearted and welcoming and generous, and
they have a lot of common sense, and I think
now their patience really is exhausted.
Speaker 1 (02:49):
What kind of action could be taken either by Home
Secretary or in Parliament, you think to address this, because
it sounds like from what you said, there is you know,
in the US, just for context, right these days, under
the Trump administration, and really more so because of recent
Supreme Court decisions, the equal protection clause of our Constitution
(03:14):
is finally starting to mean equal protection and not special protection.
And the tiers of sort of a racial hierarchy that
have been enshrined in law in this country for decades.
And you can even say that out loud and people
no longer kind of mockt They realize, no, that's actually true.
Speaker 4 (03:30):
That's what we've had here.
Speaker 1 (03:31):
What has to happen or what is happening in the UK,
so that there can be just the treatment of all
human beings or under UK jurisdiction as such and not
as individuals who fall into some kind of a racial
hierarchy of oppression and specific and special needs.
Speaker 2 (03:50):
So that's a really good way of putting it. And
you know, I want to make another point actually about
the Henry Novack murder. You know another example within that
of two TA justice is that his murderer was carrying
a deadly weapon. Obviously, in Britain, you know that you're
not allowed to carry firearms, You're not allowed to carry
deadly weapons on the street, including knives or daggers. The
(04:11):
murderer was wandering around would routinely wander around with a
ceremonial dagger, because there's a religious exemption that allows some
people if their religion says you need to carry a
dag around, you get to carry a dag around. And
again that is literally enshrined in the law. So if
there are two men carrying an identical deadly weapon on
Oxford Street in London, if one is seeking and one isn't,
(04:33):
the one who is seek would not be arrested and
the one who isn't would be. So it's dictionary definition
of two tiers. So what would need to happen. Look,
we've already laid out what we would do. Number one
would end all of those religious exemptions. Nobody's going to
get to carry daggers around on our streets in Britain.
Speaker 3 (04:51):
That will be number one.
Speaker 2 (04:51):
Number two repeal all of these race action plans, basically
repeal the whole DEI program across all of our PubL institutions.
And so in that sense, it is a similar story.
I mean, remember Britain was downstream. There was a cultural
revolution in Britain to post George Floyd, right, you know
the BBC.
Speaker 3 (05:12):
All they did was talk about it for months.
Speaker 2 (05:14):
They created one hundred million pound diversity fund dedicated to
basically enshrining anti white prejudice in their recruitment practices, and
again all as a result of b Adam. So we
just need to repeal all of that nonsense, stop the
DEI stuff, and as you said, make it crystal clear
that the police and the justice system, yes, must be
color blind. They should not care what religion you are,
(05:37):
you know, what race you are. Everybody should be equal
under the law, and it sounds crazy that this should
be a case that would need to be made by
politicians and when you're railing against the system, but you know,
so horrifying. Now are the consequences of this. I think
the British people have had enough.
Speaker 1 (05:56):
Can you just help it? Because you're, as you know,
speaking to an overwhelmingly that American We have some Canadians
too who listen and around the world on US military basis,
so we could see the people in South Korea and Germany,
but those are Americans too who are listening. You're speaking
to American audience, and I think just for them to
hear this is something that has been largely forgotten, certainly
(06:17):
not the George Floyd thing, and we talk about it
on our show a lot, but that the UK would
have also had this mass race panic in response to
a police incident with a career fell in having a
fentanyl overdose on the street in Minneapolis. How did just like,
(06:40):
can you know, you see what I'm saying? Can you
explain why would the UK system have such a spasms
of racial guilt in response to what happened in America?
Speaker 2 (06:51):
Yeah, it was extraordinary. It was absolutely extraordinary and look
at swept Britain away. I mean I would call it
a sense of crowd madness, of crowds, really no one
being willing, you know, to the degree there are people
in these boardrooms like the BBC when they were doing
this stuff who.
Speaker 3 (07:07):
Had a different opinion.
Speaker 2 (07:07):
They were too scared to air that opinion, right because
obviously the moment you air an opinion and say, you know,
maybe our soccer players should not be should not need
to kneel before every game forever now because of something
that happened in America, if you were to air such
a view, the likelihood is your career would be destroyed
because people would accuse you of being racist. And so
(07:29):
powerful now is the accusation of racism being called that
word that in Britain. At least the evidence of the
Henry novakke shows that it allows you, if you're a minority,
to stab a man repeatedly and have the police attend
and handcuff that man as he bleeds to death. And
when you read that race Action Plan, it literally says
that Hampshire Police have a quote zero tolerance approach to racism.
(07:52):
And I want to emphasize again the BBC are state
broadcaster which you're forced to contribute to paying for as
if you're an adult. In Britain, they created one hundred
million pound diversity fund. They created a program after program,
they created special programs for children to indoctrinate them about
this and that is another thing that has really infuriated people.
And Nigel Farras are leaders made this point. Look at
(08:13):
the extraordinary difference in the response to poor Henry Novak's
death in Britain, where most politicians didn't even want to
talk about it. If reformer Nigel had not made this
case a national issue in the way that he has done,
it would have just been swept under the carpet. And
there are still, you know, the majority view of the
media in Britain, the establishment media and establishing politicians is quote,
(08:35):
don't politicize this the same politician you know, the current
home sectory of Britain. Savannaha Mood tweeted out after BLM
that she was furious about the quote unspeakable outrage of
George Floyd's death and it took months for her to
comment on Henry Novak, and then she came out and said,
don't be angry about it. Keir Starmer says, you shouldn't
(08:56):
be angry about this, so you know, believe you're absolutely right.
Not only was it totally insane in my view. I
mean I went to a small Christian school in the
suburbs of London, and as an alumnus of the school,
I don't get many emails from the school. You know,
they might update you about the new cricket school in
a cricket pavilion or something. I got this really long
(09:17):
detailed email post George Floyd about how the school was
reconsidering everything and you know, going to make all of
these changes, and even I couldn't believe. But I was
running my company at the time, I couldn't believe what
I was seeing. And again, the stark contrast between that
the reaction to George Floyd's death in America relative to
what's happened to Henry from our establishment and from our media,
(09:40):
I think is disgusting.
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We're speaking to Zia Usef. He is the Shadow Home
Secretary of Reform UK and talking to us about what's
going on over there.
Speaker 4 (10:50):
How bad is Keir starmer.
Speaker 1 (10:52):
He he's bad enough that in right wing discourse, conservative
analysis in this country he pops up on our radar
as a clown.
Speaker 4 (11:01):
So I know he's not doing a good job. But
what is he doing over there?
Speaker 3 (11:04):
Yeah, clown is a sensible you know.
Speaker 2 (11:06):
That's that's a pretty accurate assessment of him as a
politician and the political leader. And that's not just a
right wing view. I mean he is now just objectively,
if you look at the polling, he's the most unpopular
British Prime minister since records began, and he's done that
in just two years, which is, you know, normally it's
not easy being in office, right, It's.
Speaker 1 (11:25):
Kind of impressive, actually is he When you think about it,
you've got to give credit word to do it.
Speaker 2 (11:28):
The credit words are exactly quite remarkable. But this is
a man who doesn't believe in anything. You know, he
tries to. He very much sees himself as a technocrat.
The problem is he's deeply incompetent and can't run a bath,
so he really has no redeeming qualities. But there is
actually a menacing side of him too, So you know,
(11:48):
maybe if you say clown, the clown sort of makes
it sound a little bit harmful to be amusing.
Speaker 4 (11:53):
He's not amusing. He's dangered. He's damaged.
Speaker 2 (11:55):
I mean he is, he is a You know, people
are being arrested for speech in Britain. You know, we
don't have a constitution right and so things like freedom
of speech. And I know there are many battles that
happen in America legally around these things too, but you know,
freedom of speech is not enshrined in the way that
it is here, right, so we are very vulnerable to
what's happening now, which is the British government, particularly under Starmer,
(12:16):
taking the view that anti government speech needs to be
clamped down upon. And you know, we're seeing more people
than ever being arrested and jailed for speech offenses. And
then we're also seeing violent criminals, murderers and rapists being
released from jail earlier, extensibly to create space for people
who wrote things on social media.
Speaker 3 (12:34):
So that's very dangerous.
Speaker 2 (12:35):
Secondly, you know, he he's been really focused on taking
away rights in terms of things like jury trial. So
this is an ancient right dating back to the Magna
Carta for us. His Justice secretary is now saying he's
going to start withdrawing the right to jury trials from
many people. Then you could look at what he's trying
to do with digital id So this is really again
(12:55):
is about you know, we've got this Orwellian quote Online
Safety Act, which you know it's exactly as anyone familiar
with all Well's work will know how these pieces of
legislation work. So there's effectively now legislation that will mean
that in order to it basically ends anonymous access to
the Internet in the UK. That's effectively what is now
(13:16):
going to happen because they're trying to introduce digital ideas,
so you can basically be removed from being able to
access many of the things you would take for granted
as a private citizen if the government chooses so sort
of like step up beyond even something like de banking.
So it's all really dangerous stuff. And obviously, like the
so called conservative prime ministers before him, he has no
(13:39):
intention of actually enforcing our border, and therefore thousands and
thousands of military age men from countries like Afghanistan, Iraq, Syria,
Iran are streaming into our country on small boats and
then being given free taxpayer funded accommodation, free healthcare, free meals,
three days out.
Speaker 3 (13:56):
I'm not making this up.
Speaker 2 (13:57):
You know, they literally get three days outing activities, trips
to the cinema. I mean, I could go on, all
funded by long suffering British taxpayers. So he is without
a doubt an awful, awful Prime Minister. But I have
to say too, it's important to your listeners understand that
most of the nightmare that you are seeing manifest on
(14:18):
our streets in the form not just of the tragedy
of Henry Novak, but also the attempted beheading by that
lunatic in Belfast, all of this stuff actually happened under
the fourteen years of the so called Conservative government. They're
the ones worshipped in twelve million people in fourteen years,
which is the equivalent of a fifth of our population.
And that's just the ones who came legally. So that's
(14:38):
why reform exists, where a new startup, insurgent party that
is listening to and speaking to and trying to represent
the common sense British people who are sick and tired
of the two old parties, which are just two sides
of the same coin.
Speaker 1 (14:53):
Well, you have a lot of sympathizers and people that
view the thing few things the same way you do
here in the US. I can't we can't vote in
your election, so we can't. We can't really help you
that much. But the special relationship is obviously critical.
Speaker 3 (15:09):
And oh you say that, Sorry, not you say that.
Speaker 2 (15:11):
But insanely foreign nationals can vote in a lot of
our elections. And I'm not advocating that you do that
because as a I don't think that's a good idea.
But that's insane, and not even in a fraudulent way,
you know.
Speaker 3 (15:21):
Legislation.
Speaker 2 (15:22):
We've got a guy in our Scottish Parliament who is
on a temporary visa and has just won a seat
to be a legislator in Scotland.
Speaker 3 (15:29):
I'm not kidding. He's an Indian national.
Speaker 2 (15:31):
He's not even allowed to work in Britain, so if
Starbucks try to hire me, you wouldn't be able to
get a job at Starbucks.
Speaker 3 (15:36):
But he is now a legislator. I'm not making this up.
Speaker 2 (15:39):
And the reason that has happened is because a law
was passed in the last twelve months to enable foreign
nationals to become legislators in Scotland.
Speaker 3 (15:47):
So that is what we are up.
Speaker 1 (15:48):
Okay here in Britain well and some wild stuff Reform UK.
What's your main site? Where If anyone wants to learn
more about it, which I'm sure some people will, where
should they go?
Speaker 2 (15:59):
So you can follow me on social media? My Twitter
is Zia usuf UK, Instagram Zia dot yusuf and our
website is Reform Party dot UK.
Speaker 4 (16:08):
Zia. Stay in the good fight, sir, Thanks for being
here
Speaker 3 (16:11):
Thanks for having me.
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