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Speaker 1 (00:11):
You're listening to the Buck Sexton Show podcast.
Speaker 2 (00:14):
Make sure you subscribe to the podcast on the iHeartRadio
app or wherever you get your podcasts. Hey guys, welcome
to the Buck Brief. On this episode, we've got our
friend John Cardillo back in the mix. He is formerly
the NYPD's conservative commentator. He's an entrepreneur. John has dove
right into it. You, if I may say, knew very
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early on about the second assassination attempt on Donald Trump.
You know, you said you didn't tell everybody to go
out with the early details, but you had the details
before anybody else that I know of in the entirety
of the media, and got all of them right. So
everything that you were hearing before it was reported anywhere
was accurate. Let's just start with this from a security standpoint,
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I had to say, look, at least this time shots
didn't get fired at the president didn't get hit, and
they and the Secret Service seemed to fire a lot
faster than they did in Butler, Pennsylvania. But I mean
that was Butler was basically catastrophic failure. They just got
lucky the president wasn't killed. Right in this case, how
do you assess the security, what went down, failures, things
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they did right? Walk me through it.
Speaker 3 (01:24):
Yeah, So I was getting my information from people in
the Sheriff's office. I've been down here in South Florida
twenty years, have a pretty good network of sources, and
I had told everybody, like you say, Buck initially, look
take this with a grain of salt.
Speaker 1 (01:36):
I'm just hearing it. Let's let it unfold.
Speaker 3 (01:38):
So, you know, people were asking me, let me kind
of delve into what I think has been the wrong
question being asked when we talk about some of the
shortcomings or how this bad guy was able to set
up for twelve hours. We're going to get back to that.
People said, well, how did he know Trump was golfing?
That's not really the question, because when you've been down
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here in South Florida long enough, you realize whenever Trump
is at Mara a Lago, he's at that golf course
every Saturday and Sunday and some weekdays, that really becomes
his own I've actually had lunch there with him. I
was invited to lunch with him when he was president.
And that's where he does business on the golf course,
political business. He has friends and allies. Then he goes
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into the sports bar area of the club and has brunch,
and again he holds meetings at tables there, one or
two tables that he puts together. So knowing he was there,
that's a no brainer. People line up on the roads
leading up to that golf club to wave flags and
to greet the motorcake. The bigger question is the more
important question, the question how was the bad guy able
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to set up a sniper's hide on the property for
twelve hours? And I think that's where we need to
start analyzing the shortfall and the shortcomings. So we've heard
these statements from Rick Bradshaw, the Palm Beach County Sheriff
and Secret Service.
Speaker 1 (02:59):
Well, because he's.
Speaker 3 (03:01):
Only a candidate or a former president, he's not entitled
to the same level of protection we saw. Our good
buddy Dan Bongino, former Secrets has put out the Secret
Service treats this as it's called an OTR and off
the record event.
Speaker 1 (03:15):
It's not a scheduled event.
Speaker 3 (03:16):
Well that's kind of crazy, and I think that was
Dan's point as well, in that they know he's at
the club every weekend when he's in Florida. He was
shot in the head two months ago. Why are they
still treating this so casually? So that's the question. How
was this guy able to set up for twelve hours?
I mean buck canines? Where were the canines? Trump owns
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large properties mar A Lago, the golf club, another golf
club in Jupiter, A lot of acres to cover a
canine is incredibly effective and incredibly inexpensive. So it seems
to me the ball was dropped by law enforcement, especially
the Secret Service, because they have been sent in command
yet again and the results.
Speaker 1 (03:57):
Again could have been deadly. Really, but for the grace
of God.
Speaker 2 (04:01):
Now, the fact that the gunman was able to get
away after Secret Service engaged with four they have they
clarified it was four to six? Was it with a
side arm? Do we know at what distance? That's one
thing that I've never heard. Have we gotten any details?
Speaker 3 (04:15):
Haven't seen you know, I've heard conflicting reports, anything from
a ten to fifty yards.
Speaker 1 (04:21):
I've consistently heard four rounds. But again, like you say,
six has been the narrative.
Speaker 3 (04:25):
What I heard from law enforcement was anything head to
fifty yards, and I've consistently heard four rounds fired.
Speaker 1 (04:31):
But you raised a good.
Speaker 3 (04:32):
Point with your question where was pombe Sheriff's offices and
the Secret Services chase vehicles. Yes what your audience probably
doesn't know. Maybe they do, maybe some don't. The bad
guy was apprehended. Ruth was apprehended by Martin County sheriff
set up near the highway. He wasn't apprehended immediately after
fleeing the property. Now, for geographical reference, Martin County is
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the county just north of pom Beach County. It's about
a fifteen to twenty minute drive from the club on
a good day without traffic, so pretty close by. Those
two agencies co ordinate quite a bit the border county
to the north. But their deputies caught the bad guy.
It wasn't Secret Service, it wasn't Pombee Sheriff. So a
lot of questions need to be asked there as well.
Speaker 2 (05:16):
Yeah, it seems like there's an obvious need for enhanced
security measures for Trump between now and election day. John, Well,
what do you think are the chances that actually happens.
It feels like, you know, people say, oh, he should
go private, he needs blackwater, and it's not called blackwater anymore,
but something along those lines. And my understanding is you're
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not operating overseas in a war zone. So if you're
just going to try to go private, unless they're going
to be deputized by the FEDS or something, you're talking
about having to run through all kinds of hoops and laws.
You know, Secret Service can carry whatever they want, have
whatever tools they want, you know, your private security guys.
I just feel like that's not necessarily the answer. But
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I don't know, what do you think?
Speaker 1 (06:01):
Well, what Secret.
Speaker 3 (06:02):
Service has said over the last couple of days is
now they're affording Donald Trump trump presidential level security, and
so he's going to have the same security had while
he was in office.
Speaker 1 (06:12):
The other issue, so I'm not adverse to private.
Speaker 3 (06:15):
Contractors, you know, former Tier one and two special operators
in a limited capacity at the private properties. But you
correctly point out federal agents can carry firearms anywhere in
the United States and there's there there are international compacts
where they're able to carry globally when they're with their protectee.
The private guys won't have that, they won't have those privileges.
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The other thing they won't have is direct access. US
Secret Service has its own intelligence division, they have an
integrated communication system.
Speaker 1 (06:44):
Those earbuds.
Speaker 3 (06:46):
The private guys probably wouldn't be given access to that,
so as well trained as they might be, whatever their
experience might be, they'd still bencapped a bit by the
lack of access to communications, intel and the ability to
carry weapons as broadly as the Secret Service can.
Speaker 2 (07:02):
And I mean going forward, I just I feel like
the Secret Service in all of this obviously has taken
a big repute hit. I don't think there's any question
about that.
Speaker 1 (07:12):
Really.
Speaker 2 (07:12):
I would say more a lot more for Butler than this.
I mean the Butler thing, because the video people say, hey,
look there's a shooter up there, and the most obvious
you know, in this case, they did. They did find
the guy before he was able to take shots. He
was there for twelve hours. But you know Trump wasn't
there at one am, So I don't you know, you can't.
I don't think we can expect security to be camped
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out twenty four to seven anywhere Trump could possibly show up,
although you know, I don't know what they're.
Speaker 1 (07:37):
Going to be.
Speaker 2 (07:38):
It's difficult, right because to your point about the West
Palm golf course, I mean this, I remember this from
from back in the CIA. Your most vulnerable when you're
when you can be analyzed by pattern, right, when you're
setting pattern exactly right, that's when that's when the bad
guys can set up on you. This is why a
lot of the time, people who know what they're doing
will go after people in the morning when they're groggy
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and their routine is most consistent. Right. This is just
you know, if you read enough spy novels or whatever,
you'll see that's sure. People are moving slower doing what
they do, leaving at the same time time to get
to work, leaving it, you know. But the golf course
thing to treat this as as you mentioned are from
Bongino said, it's off the record movement. It's off the
record unless you're in the Florida area and everybody knows
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that he goes there all the time, right, So I
do think they probably have to up the security there
going forward. You're saying they're going to give him presidential
level security, so maybe that that handles some of it,
but it just feels like, yeah, what do you think?
Speaker 3 (08:36):
Yeah, I mean, Buck, you know, you raise a couple
of great points, right, so the presidential level security, Yeah,
that's going to certainly increase the size of the bubble
and the intensity of the bubble, the amount of agents
the proficiency will probably see more full time Secret Service
around Trump and those Homeland Security Investigation supplemental agents because
of the manpower issues on the outer skirts of the bubble.
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But let me say this, I still can't reconcile and
I can't excuse why nobody did an advance thorough perimeter
search before Trump arrived there. Now that said, Trump doesn't
make the Secret Service Secret Services life easy because he
is a creature of habit, right. He wants to guy.
I get it, it's his club, he's comfortable. I don't golf,
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but people say it's an outstanding golf course. He owns
the place. I get why he wants to go there.
But he has set a rock solid pattern for a
bad guy to follow on the weekends.
Speaker 1 (09:32):
I mean, you can't miss his motor cad. Right.
Speaker 3 (09:34):
Maybe it's time for him to start choppering in and out,
taking a helicopter in and out. But that said, why
was nobody passed with an advance of the property in
those twelve hours an hour before he got there, a
half hour before That to me is another massive failure.
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So, John, my feeling on the Trump Kamala showdown here
is Trump is gonna win because he has to win
because Kamala is so awful that it's inconceivable that she
will win. Now, I understand that's more of an emotional
analysis than a numbers analysis. I could do the numbers
analysis too. How do you see this right now?
Speaker 1 (11:22):
Yeah, I kind of feel the same way. I mean, anecdotally.
Speaker 3 (11:24):
I haven't spoken to anyone, even even former New York
City Dems. You know, friends of mine that I grew
up with who thinks she's remotely competent and her are
willing to take a chance on her. Now, I'll tell
you something that really encouraged me, especially about Pennsylvania where
I was concerned, and it's these numbers with regards to
the teamsters almost sixty percent of Teamsters members of the
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Teamsters union picked Trump over Kamala when pulled internally by
the union. So that to me says Trump firmly has,
firmly has the white working class voters, working class voters
of all races, right, Teamsters, They're not necessarily an overwhelmingly
white organization. So I think among the working class voters,
Trump will win. Trump will win easily. I think we're
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seeing a big swing in Jewish voters toward Trump because
of the democrats abysmal response to the Hamas attacks of
last October seventh. But will the die hard Dems and
will those moderates and independents who vote on feelings not policies,
those Orange man bad people, will they get a temporary
bout of common sense and put country before feelings. I
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don't know, but I'm with you. I think as we sit.
Speaker 1 (12:31):
Here today, he should and I believe will win the election. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (12:35):
I mean, you look at just the strategy. If people
can generally argue about what a political strategy may be, right,
it is it really just heavily focused on the heartland
and economic messaging, or is it more of a national
security border with an economic twist? You know, whatever, right,
people can have their opinions talking to this all day long.
The Kamalist strategy objectively from her campaign is don't let
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people see who Kamala Harris really is and what she
really believes. Because they've done seven interviews since she became
the nominee between her and Walls, seven total, and Trump
and Jade Vance have done seventy something.
Speaker 1 (13:13):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (13:14):
Yeah, I mean, you know, how much more clear could
they make it that? This is just it's like they're
trying to scam the voters. Kalma doesn't believe anything she
used to believe. Vote for her, and we're not going
to have her tell you anything.
Speaker 1 (13:27):
Yeah. You know, well, Buck, I was raised a middle
class child, and.
Speaker 2 (13:31):
You were unburdened by what has been John.
Speaker 3 (13:33):
I was unburdened by what has been. I mean that
is you know, we started this meme campaign as a
tongue in cheek joke about her being born as a
middle class child, but it's literally her answer to everything.
I've never seen anything like it. I haven't heard and
I'm not saying this as a matter of partisanship. I
have not heard one intelligent or substantive answer out of
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Kamala Harris or Tim Waltz, and I think most of
America is starting to feel the same way. So I
can't even comment on what her policies are, because other
than the most draconian left wing policies, We're going to
go into your home and make sure you're responsible with
your gun, whether you like it or not. We're gonna
cap the price of groceries and destroy the free markets.
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Other than that, I have no idea what the woman's
policy platform is.
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for you, John, I just think it's uh sure this
is this? This read has got me thinking about the
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operation that the Israelis. I know that you know people
who say, well, the Israelis haven't confirmed the Israelis won't
confirm any military or intelligence operation. Ever, that's just policy.
It's the Israelis. Everyone everyone is assuming around the entire planet,
it's the Israelis. Uh this uh has bela pagers and
walkie talkies radios. Look, I come from an intelligence background.
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I've read a lot of both historically, and then you know,
from my time in learned a lot about what kind
of stuff can be done. This is uh. I was
gonna say, it's mind blowing. Pardon the expression, I mean
this is crazy.
Speaker 3 (16:01):
Yeah, I mean you said it best. I think you
said it best on it a text they of the
day with the our friends. You called it a legendary
intelligence operation. I think that was the perfect This is
pretty remarkable, right. So, having spoken to some guys in
the intelligence community, special operations community, even they're saying, wow,
you know, one made a good point. He said, you know,
it could have been Israel could just have such solid embeds,
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they could have their spies and their assets embedded that
they might have built all these devices waiting for Hezbollah
to order new ones because they knew what they were
using and simply swapped them out before they were distributed.
Because they've got deep embeds who are so effective. And
so any way you slice this, this is going to
go down as an historic intelligence win for Israel. I
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mean this is things. You said this right, you said,
I'm really stealing your thoughts. Agencies will intelligence agencies will.
Speaker 1 (16:51):
Teach this for decades.
Speaker 2 (16:52):
Oh absolutely, I mean it's it is the most sort
of complete in every sense, the intelligence, the technical expertise,
the deployment the operational security. It's an operation that you know,
other intelligence entities around the world would say, if we
could do this against our enemies, would be in a
much better place. John Cardilla, everybody, John always good to
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see you, man. And I'll be up in Fort Lauderdale soon.
Speaker 1 (17:16):
We'll hang out absolutely, man, dinner's long overdue. Good to
see it. Good