January 29, 2026 • 20 mins
Is the media and the left trying to derail President Trump’s immigration enforcement agenda? Former Trump White House communications official Caroline Sunshine joins the show to break down the events in Minneapolis, the media narrative surrounding them, and why she believes the administration should stay focused on enforcing the law, not emotional manipulation and political pressure.
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Speaker 1 (00:11):
You're listening to the Buck Sexton Show podcast, make sure
you subscribe to the podcast on the iHeartRadio app or
wherever you get your podcasts. Is there a tactical retreat
underway in Minneapolis for the Trump White House? What happens
now to the immigration enforcement agenda? Caroline Sunshine is with
us to talk about this. She was formerly working in
(00:31):
the Trump White House and the first administration and communications,
and she's also a former Disney star and now a
commentator on all things going on there. We'll get to
the Disney stuff later. Caroline, tell me first of all,
thank you for being being here. Nice to nice to
have you on for the first time. What should they
be doing now? For the messaging was bad by Gnome
(00:54):
after this whole thing went down. I think that's pretty clear.
And there's now the finger pointing about someone told me
to say it or right? Whatever? What do they do now?
How do they fix this mess to get it focused
back on the policy of enforcing immigration law.
Speaker 2 (01:07):
Yeah, thanks for having met.
Speaker 3 (01:10):
Of all, you don't play into the narrative trap that
democrats in the media.
Speaker 2 (01:14):
Are very clearly laying.
Speaker 3 (01:16):
You know, Alex Pretti's death was a tragedy but it
was no more of a tragedy than any of the
thousands of Americans who have.
Speaker 2 (01:25):
Lost their life to excessive use of force by.
Speaker 3 (01:27):
An a legal immigrant, and a lot of them you've
never heard their names because the media intentionally keeps their
names out of the media. I thought, my first reaction,
or one of my first reactions to the news coming
out of Minneapolis was wow, I can't remember the last
time the mainstream media cared this much about a white
guy dying. They never care about white men dying, you know,
I mean opioid deaths in this country for the longest time,
(01:50):
with the leading cause of death for men ages, you know,
eighteen to forty five. We have an epidemic where the
life span of American men is being shortened by on average,
you know, a decade. Never cared, never cared about that,
always looked to demonize white men, whether it was Daniel
Penny standing up and saving the passenger on that train
in New York, whether it was Kyle Rittenhouse using.
Speaker 2 (02:11):
His right to self defense.
Speaker 3 (02:13):
So it's just interesting because Alex, you know, his death
happens to fit. While it is tragic, it fits a
particular narrative.
Speaker 2 (02:20):
And I said, this going all.
Speaker 3 (02:21):
The way back to when Kilmar Orbrago Garcia was getting
deported and the left worked so hard to try and
stop that, And I said, you know this is this
is tactical because you have to look at it from
a columns and messaging standpoint. Right. If they're able to
stop one deportation, then they can stop them all. You know,
if they can get public sentiment on their side where
they can just stop one, make you just have one
(02:43):
moment of a you know, emotional blackmail over something tragic
that's happened, they can stop at all. And so the
first thing is to not play into that narrative. And
the second, I think is the tone that the president
where he said I want to see a full investigation done.
His tone has been very appropriate. And I'll tell you
(03:05):
when I look at what happened with Renee Good and
Alex Pretty in Innneapolis, my reaction is I wish they
were still alive. My reaction is not what I watched
the left do after Charlie Kirk's death was go oh yep, Bie,
I'm so glad he's dead. I hope people that believe
(03:25):
the same thing as him die too. I'm really excited
about it. Look, I think that impeding law enforcement operations
is a dumb way to die, really do. But I'm
not excited about it, and I don't want to see
more liberals that I don't think. I probably agreed with
Renee Good or Alex Pretti on much if.
Speaker 2 (03:47):
I met him in person.
Speaker 3 (03:49):
But they're my fellow American, they're a fellow countryman, and
I don't want to see more liberals die dumb deaths
because they.
Speaker 2 (03:55):
Are buying in to the media narrative.
Speaker 3 (03:59):
That Ice is bad, icer murderers, you know, whatever it is.
Speaker 2 (04:02):
And I know the President doesn't want to see that either.
And the fact is this, It wasn't.
Speaker 3 (04:08):
A protest that was going going on in Minnesota when
you really look at it, Alex was not at a protest.
Speaker 2 (04:14):
Alex was in the street.
Speaker 3 (04:16):
He was directing traffic of moving vehicles. Okay, well, is
he a traffic cop no? Is he a crossing guard?
Speaker 2 (04:24):
No?
Speaker 3 (04:25):
Then why are you in the street directing traffic? That's
not your job. And that's also not what peacefully protesting
your government looks like. First of all, if you want
to peacefully protest your government, write a letter to your senator.
Ice is a enforcement agency. They are a law enforcement agent.
They are enforcing the law, which is as current stands
on the books. Eight US Code thirteen twenty five been
(04:47):
the same law since President Obama was in office.
Speaker 2 (04:50):
That law has not changed.
Speaker 3 (04:52):
They're enforcing the law. And what Alex was doing, because
there's been this deliberate use of the word protest that
he was a protester that was killed he was protesting.
I don't believe that. I believe what Alex did would
be the same thing if if you didn't like the
Iraq war and you didn't support the political reasons for
the United States engaging in the Middle East. Fair, that's
(05:14):
your first Amendment right to disagree with your government, to
protest that, you know what, you don't have the right
to do. You don't have the right to fly to
bag Dad and get in the middle of a marine
convoy or get in the middle of marines going door
to door, kicking down doors trying to find terrorists and
exercise your right to protest and say, oh I don't
like this, let me get my iPhone out and film you.
Speaker 2 (05:35):
That's not the right to protest.
Speaker 3 (05:37):
You're now impeding military operations. That is a soldier's workplace,
just like that was ICE's workplace. And when you interact
with soldiers in a combat zone or law enforcement officers
the way that they're being dealt with in Minneapolis, you
put all of those soldiers and all of those officers
on edge way more than they already are, and their
(05:59):
goal is to survive, their goal is to do their jobs.
And people really take for granted. I think, I haven't
served in the military, a lot of admiration for those.
Speaker 2 (06:09):
Who have same, and laylaw enforcement.
Speaker 3 (06:11):
The average American can't comprehend. I think what it feels
like to be in an environment where twenty four to
seven you have to keep your head on an absolute
swivel because you're aware that a three second delay or
not catching something or not reacting quick enough can result
in losing your life or the life of you know,
your best friend who's serving beside you, and that often
gets lost in these narratives.
Speaker 1 (06:31):
Intentionally, you see all the celebrities now, like Natalie Portman's
crying about this. It's like the most evil thing ever.
Tim Walls, the governor, he's not a actor celebrity type,
but he's unfortunately somebody we know. He says that they're
going to write a story about what's going on in Minneapolis,
(06:53):
just like Anne Frank wrote the story of what happened
to her in the Netherlands. Are these people? Are they deranged?
Are they delusional? Is it just dishonest?
Speaker 3 (07:03):
Like?
Speaker 1 (07:04):
How do you make sense of the people that are
crying for what happened in Minneapolis? Who you don't cry
about terrible things happening in this country day in and
day out that are the results of policies that they're
just fine with.
Speaker 3 (07:17):
Oh well, and here you go, right, all these Hollywood celebrities,
like you said, Natalie Portman, you know, all the like,
where were they and why weren't they this upset when
President Obama? You know, they're Hollywood icon, the guy they
all love, rubbing shoulders with, the guy they all want
to get a Netflix deal with. Why weren't they upset
when President Obama was deporting illegal immigrants?
Speaker 2 (07:39):
Why was there a problem?
Speaker 3 (07:40):
Then?
Speaker 2 (07:40):
Oh, it's a problem. It's a problem.
Speaker 3 (07:42):
Now. I'd love to say that they're delusional, and they are,
but it's intentional.
Speaker 2 (07:47):
Again, they know what they're doing.
Speaker 3 (07:50):
They are performers, they are actors, and what they are
doing is acting.
Speaker 2 (07:56):
And you know, for all these women in.
Speaker 3 (07:57):
Hollywood who were part of the Me too movement. We
have to, you know, protect all women. Give me a
freaking break. Where have you been totally silent as young
women in oury have been murdered, raped?
Speaker 2 (08:14):
Lake and Riley was on a run in Georgia.
Speaker 3 (08:18):
She was bludgeoned over the head with a rock, sexually assaulted,
and then killed by an illegal immigrant. Jocelyn nunger A
was twelve years old. She died at twelve years old
under a bridge after being raped by two different men
who should have never been in our country.
Speaker 2 (08:34):
They came in illegally.
Speaker 3 (08:35):
Why was Natalie Portman and all of her tears and
all of her humanity? Then, oh, that's right. Those lives
didn't matter to her. Those lives weren't part of the
performance because those lives didn't fit the political narrative.
Speaker 1 (08:46):
That's all true. We'll come back here in a second
with the way forward, and also want to ask you
if you would just tell us a little bit more
about your your interesting background and how you got into politics. Caroline.
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see what's going on with particularly young white women in
this country who are showing up at these protests and
they're screaming in the faces of the it seems like
(10:11):
something's really wrong with them, and they're the demographic that
specifically voted more heavily for Kammawa the last time around
than even they did when they were voting for Biden
in twenty twenty. What's happened, Like, what's happened is I'm
not talking about the conservative women are watching this, because
obviously they're not in this category. What has happened to
these liberal white women who have completely lost their minds?
(10:32):
Where did this come from?
Speaker 3 (10:34):
Yeah, They're being completely emotionally manipulated to the point that
they're risking their lives. That's where I say, when you
look at the death of Renee Good, I take.
Speaker 2 (10:45):
No pleasure in that death. I don't agree with liberal women,
but I don't want.
Speaker 3 (10:49):
To see more of them die because their own side
has no regard for their life and brainwashes them to
risk their life in ways that are completely inappropriate and
ultimately can result in death. I mean, I'm sure you've
seen the same video I've seen of Renee Good. The
look in her eyes as she is behind the wheel
(11:11):
of that vehicle and then ramming it into a federal officer,
it's almost like it's almost like it wasn't real life.
To her like she was detached from it or something,
or she thought she was the hero in the story.
You know, these women are being emotionally manipulated by culture.
Alex Earle is one of the biggest female content influencers
(11:35):
in the world, and she just posted about the death
of Alex Pretty in Minneapolis to her millions of young
female followers, of course, with zero context for what actually happens.
So all these sea is, these these fragments, all these
sea are these images deliberately placed in the media, you know,
showing Ice looking like the bad guys that they aren't,
(11:58):
and the media never focuses on the fact that Ice
is actually really the core backbone force that are handling
deporting again the rapists, the criminals, the wife beaters who
have who have killed and abused one too many American women.
(12:19):
But that doesn't even enter the information ecosystem of this
liberal these liberal women. And then what it does is
it drives the genders further away. Okay, right, because you
have these women who are now so liberal that they
don't want to date the men. The men are so
conservative they don't want to date the women. And so
these women, these liberal women are kind of living in
this bubble where they're not getting any other kind of perspective,
(12:43):
and most importantly, they don't have anything in their lives.
I believe that grounds them because for Renee Good to
be impeding law enforcement operations on what was it a
Wednesday at two pm, she's a mother of young children.
No disrespect to the dead, but you have to be
mentally ill to do something like that. And I say
that out of a place of, like I said, genuine concern.
(13:04):
It's a dumb way to die to block ice operations,
just like it would be a dumb way to die
to show it to a combat zone and say I'd
like to use my first Amendment right right now. It's dumb,
but I take no pleasure in it. And I hope
that the liberal media ecosystem realizes what they are doing
to their own listeners and to their.
Speaker 1 (13:22):
Own followers before we wrap up today, because we've actually
covered a lot of ground here, and you know, moved
through this very quickly. But tell us how you got
into politics. I've seen you on Fox, That's how we
got you here. Did a great job on Fox. So
I know you worked in the Trump White House, But
how'd you end up in the trump White House.
Speaker 3 (13:42):
I worked on the Disney Channel on a television series
called Shake It Up. That everybody has their American dream,
Everybody has their childhood dream, and I got to live mine,
which was to perform on the Disney Channel. I played
a character on the series that was a Russian foreign
exchange student, so I always joke that then when I
went to work for President Trump, you know.
Speaker 2 (14:03):
I'm the closest thing there ever was to Russian collusion.
Speaker 3 (14:06):
But I left Hollywood. I was an intern in President
Trump's White House. His message when he came down the
escalator in twenty fifteen really resonated with me. I was
mad at the political class in this country that I
had felt had failed us through their own selfish and
stupid leadership. And I love my country and I wanted
(14:27):
to do something about it. And so I come from
very liberal Hollywood and I left to serve in President
Trump's White House. I was canceled, experienced the full brunt
of that for being canceled for my political opinions, and
I learned so much going through that that made me
want to speak up more rather than stay silent. And
(14:51):
I love that. One of the great things about having
President Trump back in the White House now, is it
finally feels like some of the tide of cancel culture
has has turned and you watch certain brands feel like
they can't get away with what they got away with before.
Speaker 2 (15:05):
And so President Trump's you know.
Speaker 3 (15:07):
Win wasn't just a political win, it was a cultural
win to and I really want to make sure that
those conservatives again, I came from the cultural space where
it's a very liberal industry. The left has held that
ground for a long time. I'd love to see conservatives
keep making grounds and gains in culture. We're half the country,
you know, and it's time that that's reflected in our culture.
Speaker 1 (15:28):
What is your favorite Disney cartoon of all time?
Speaker 2 (15:33):
Cartoons? So like not not live action?
Speaker 1 (15:35):
No, no, no, no, yeah, because that's like so much there.
I'm trying to narrow it down aload it for you here,
because you know, we got obviously Snow White, Sleeping Beauty,
and then everything you know since and in between.
Speaker 3 (15:46):
Yeah, and like okay, so no live action movies and
like do you count Pixar or do you want to.
Speaker 1 (15:50):
Be like the you can do you can do Pixar,
just no live action. We'll just limit it to no
live action.
Speaker 2 (15:55):
Okay, Oh that's tough.
Speaker 1 (15:57):
Because I also don't even remember all the Disney movies
that are Disney, whereas like the Disney cartoons, I always
know it's a Disney cartoon.
Speaker 3 (16:04):
What's your favorite one.
Speaker 2 (16:05):
I'm trying to think of mine, just because.
Speaker 1 (16:06):
Mine is a little bit off the beaten path. I
mean the I do think The Lion King, The Lion King,
Beauty and the Beast and Aladdin were kind of like
peak Disney cultural influence for the cartoon stuff. But I
always love The Sword and the Stone and Archimedes the Owl.
When I was a kid, I watched that a million times.
(16:29):
I know every scene in that movie. I know who
what what? Like, I can do all like, I know
all of it. So yeah, I actually I actually want
a pet owl so I can name him Archimedes, like
I'm a weird guy.
Speaker 3 (16:40):
But that's that's where you should get what's stopping you?
Speaker 2 (16:43):
You should that's pretty cool.
Speaker 1 (16:45):
Technically it's illegal, Yes, the problem is you're not allowed
to have a pet owl. But yeah, you can't have
an owl. There it's a bird of they're considered a
bird of pread. I've looked into this. Obviously considered a
bird of play. The problem is, imagine this, if you
had a pet owl, you would have to feed it
with it and and they eat essentially like mice and
things like that, and then you have like mice bones
(17:08):
and carcasses that pile up under wherever the owl. So
it's like messy. It's not good. It's not a good
thing to have in your house. You have like little
mouse skeletons piling up in the corner. It's not good.
Speaker 2 (17:19):
And now I feel stupid.
Speaker 3 (17:20):
I'm like, I feel like that's like saying, like, why
don't we have a pet bald eagle.
Speaker 2 (17:23):
It's like, well, Caroline, because that's no.
Speaker 1 (17:25):
I mean an owl. There is so in Florida, since
you're since we're on this topic, in Florida, you can
get an exotic animal license again because I've looked into
this and I believe that an owl would be covered
under a class three. Yeah, you can get a whole
bunch of different So there's like three different classes. Class
one is like a like a lion, and like you
need a special you know, you need to have like
(17:47):
a preserve for that. And they can't just like get
a pet line. But you can get like sort of
a different kinds of snakes and things like that. I
think you can get a skunk with a class three.
You might be able to get. There's a small owl
I forget. I think it's a tawny owl that might
be called a tawny owl something like that that you
might be able to get. But yeah, they have big talons.
They're not as cute as Archimedes and Sword in the Stone.
(18:08):
That's the problem, you know. And they don't talk, which
Archimedes does, which I remember very well. So, now that
I've given you a lot of time to think this
one through, your best Disney as a Disney alumna, yourself,
your favorite Disney cartoon.
Speaker 3 (18:22):
Growing up, I loved The Little Mermaid, and then I
also loved Oh because I love the ocean. But I
mean I would watch The Little Mermaid to the point
that I thought I could become a mermaid. And that's
also one of the biggest reasons I'm against children having
any right to decide if they're like a boy or
a girl or need a transition. It's because, like, at
eight years old, I genuinely believed that I could be
(18:45):
a mermaid, because your faculties just aren't developed at like
eight years old, you know, so I genuinely thought, well,
if I play the pool enough, like I'll grow grow
a tail, you know, because I loved watching Little Mermaid.
Doesn't really work like that, so you got to be
more protective of kids. But Disney used to make so
much great content. I loved growing up on that content.
I hate a lot of what it's become because I
(19:06):
think when it was at its best, like even your
reference was so niche.
Speaker 2 (19:10):
I love that. I think when it was at its best, before.
Speaker 3 (19:12):
A lot of the woke content completely infiltrated it, it
was so pure, like it was like.
Speaker 1 (19:18):
Childhood I grew. I grew up watching Disney cartoons as
a kid, so I really was. And even movies like
Old Yeller, which I think no one remembers Old Yeller
that that I still I still get, like choked up.
Speaker 3 (19:30):
The Lion King makes me choke up when I've just
recently watched the live action version of The Lion King
and like there's something about Mufasa, you know, oh yeah,
giving his life for a son that I think, like
will always get you.
Speaker 2 (19:45):
It makes me tear up up.
Speaker 1 (19:47):
Yeah, great great content when they're not doing the like
woke trying to training your kids stuff, which unfortunately in
recent years they've done a lot of me right, It's like.
Speaker 2 (19:56):
I miss all of the they had such a good way.
Speaker 3 (19:58):
Back during that generation of content of figuring out how
to like kind of impart values and lessons to you
and the kind of sneaky like put the spinach in
the spaghetti.
Speaker 2 (20:06):
Sauce kind of way.
Speaker 3 (20:08):
And it's a it's a shame for the company and
for our culture that they've moved away from that.
Speaker 2 (20:13):
We got to get that back or make it better.
Speaker 1 (20:16):
Absolutely. Where can people go to follow your content? Check
things out?
Speaker 3 (20:20):
Yeah, thank you for watching and for having me. You
can follow me on x which is Sea Sunshine, and
then you can follow me on Instagram Caroline Sunshine And
I'm experimenting with TikTok, so I'll keep you posted on
how that goes.
Speaker 1 (20:35):
All right, thanks for being here. Good to see you.
Speaker 2 (20:38):
Thanks for having me.
You're listening to the Buck Sexton Show podcast, make sure
you subscribe to the podcast on the iHeartRadio app or
wherever you get your podcasts. Is there a tactical retreat
underway in Minneapolis for the Trump White House? What happens
now to the immigration enforcement agenda? Caroline Sunshine is with
us to talk about this. She was formerly working in
(00:31):
the Trump White House and the first administration and communications,
and she's also a former Disney star and now a
commentator on all things going on there. We'll get to
the Disney stuff later. Caroline, tell me first of all,
thank you for being being here. Nice to nice to
have you on for the first time. What should they
be doing now? For the messaging was bad by Gnome
(00:54):
after this whole thing went down. I think that's pretty clear.
And there's now the finger pointing about someone told me
to say it or right? Whatever? What do they do now?
How do they fix this mess to get it focused
back on the policy of enforcing immigration law.
Speaker 2 (01:07):
Yeah, thanks for having met.
Speaker 3 (01:10):
Of all, you don't play into the narrative trap that
democrats in the media.
Speaker 2 (01:14):
Are very clearly laying.
Speaker 3 (01:16):
You know, Alex Pretti's death was a tragedy but it
was no more of a tragedy than any of the
thousands of Americans who have.
Speaker 2 (01:25):
Lost their life to excessive use of force by.
Speaker 3 (01:27):
An a legal immigrant, and a lot of them you've
never heard their names because the media intentionally keeps their
names out of the media. I thought, my first reaction,
or one of my first reactions to the news coming
out of Minneapolis was wow, I can't remember the last
time the mainstream media cared this much about a white
guy dying. They never care about white men dying, you know,
I mean opioid deaths in this country for the longest time,
(01:50):
with the leading cause of death for men ages, you know,
eighteen to forty five. We have an epidemic where the
life span of American men is being shortened by on average,
you know, a decade. Never cared, never cared about that,
always looked to demonize white men, whether it was Daniel
Penny standing up and saving the passenger on that train
in New York, whether it was Kyle Rittenhouse using.
Speaker 2 (02:11):
His right to self defense.
Speaker 3 (02:13):
So it's just interesting because Alex, you know, his death
happens to fit. While it is tragic, it fits a
particular narrative.
Speaker 2 (02:20):
And I said, this going all.
Speaker 3 (02:21):
The way back to when Kilmar Orbrago Garcia was getting
deported and the left worked so hard to try and
stop that, And I said, you know this is this
is tactical because you have to look at it from
a columns and messaging standpoint. Right. If they're able to
stop one deportation, then they can stop them all. You know,
if they can get public sentiment on their side where
they can just stop one, make you just have one
(02:43):
moment of a you know, emotional blackmail over something tragic
that's happened, they can stop at all. And so the
first thing is to not play into that narrative. And
the second, I think is the tone that the president
where he said I want to see a full investigation done.
His tone has been very appropriate. And I'll tell you
(03:05):
when I look at what happened with Renee Good and
Alex Pretty in Innneapolis, my reaction is I wish they
were still alive. My reaction is not what I watched
the left do after Charlie Kirk's death was go oh yep, Bie,
I'm so glad he's dead. I hope people that believe
(03:25):
the same thing as him die too. I'm really excited
about it. Look, I think that impeding law enforcement operations
is a dumb way to die, really do. But I'm
not excited about it, and I don't want to see
more liberals that I don't think. I probably agreed with
Renee Good or Alex Pretti on much if.
Speaker 2 (03:47):
I met him in person.
Speaker 3 (03:49):
But they're my fellow American, they're a fellow countryman, and
I don't want to see more liberals die dumb deaths
because they.
Speaker 2 (03:55):
Are buying in to the media narrative.
Speaker 3 (03:59):
That Ice is bad, icer murderers, you know, whatever it is.
Speaker 2 (04:02):
And I know the President doesn't want to see that either.
And the fact is this, It wasn't.
Speaker 3 (04:08):
A protest that was going going on in Minnesota when
you really look at it, Alex was not at a protest.
Speaker 2 (04:14):
Alex was in the street.
Speaker 3 (04:16):
He was directing traffic of moving vehicles. Okay, well, is
he a traffic cop no? Is he a crossing guard?
Speaker 2 (04:24):
No?
Speaker 3 (04:25):
Then why are you in the street directing traffic? That's
not your job. And that's also not what peacefully protesting
your government looks like. First of all, if you want
to peacefully protest your government, write a letter to your senator.
Ice is a enforcement agency. They are a law enforcement agent.
They are enforcing the law, which is as current stands
on the books. Eight US Code thirteen twenty five been
(04:47):
the same law since President Obama was in office.
Speaker 2 (04:50):
That law has not changed.
Speaker 3 (04:52):
They're enforcing the law. And what Alex was doing, because
there's been this deliberate use of the word protest that
he was a protester that was killed he was protesting.
I don't believe that. I believe what Alex did would
be the same thing if if you didn't like the
Iraq war and you didn't support the political reasons for
the United States engaging in the Middle East. Fair, that's
(05:14):
your first Amendment right to disagree with your government, to
protest that, you know what, you don't have the right
to do. You don't have the right to fly to
bag Dad and get in the middle of a marine
convoy or get in the middle of marines going door
to door, kicking down doors trying to find terrorists and
exercise your right to protest and say, oh I don't
like this, let me get my iPhone out and film you.
Speaker 2 (05:35):
That's not the right to protest.
Speaker 3 (05:37):
You're now impeding military operations. That is a soldier's workplace,
just like that was ICE's workplace. And when you interact
with soldiers in a combat zone or law enforcement officers
the way that they're being dealt with in Minneapolis, you
put all of those soldiers and all of those officers
on edge way more than they already are, and their
(05:59):
goal is to survive, their goal is to do their jobs.
And people really take for granted. I think, I haven't
served in the military, a lot of admiration for those.
Speaker 2 (06:09):
Who have same, and laylaw enforcement.
Speaker 3 (06:11):
The average American can't comprehend. I think what it feels
like to be in an environment where twenty four to
seven you have to keep your head on an absolute
swivel because you're aware that a three second delay or
not catching something or not reacting quick enough can result
in losing your life or the life of you know,
your best friend who's serving beside you, and that often
gets lost in these narratives.
Speaker 1 (06:31):
Intentionally, you see all the celebrities now, like Natalie Portman's
crying about this. It's like the most evil thing ever.
Tim Walls, the governor, he's not a actor celebrity type,
but he's unfortunately somebody we know. He says that they're
going to write a story about what's going on in Minneapolis,
(06:53):
just like Anne Frank wrote the story of what happened
to her in the Netherlands. Are these people? Are they deranged?
Are they delusional? Is it just dishonest?
Speaker 3 (07:03):
Like?
Speaker 1 (07:04):
How do you make sense of the people that are
crying for what happened in Minneapolis? Who you don't cry
about terrible things happening in this country day in and
day out that are the results of policies that they're
just fine with.
Speaker 3 (07:17):
Oh well, and here you go, right, all these Hollywood celebrities,
like you said, Natalie Portman, you know, all the like,
where were they and why weren't they this upset when
President Obama? You know, they're Hollywood icon, the guy they
all love, rubbing shoulders with, the guy they all want
to get a Netflix deal with. Why weren't they upset
when President Obama was deporting illegal immigrants?
Speaker 2 (07:39):
Why was there a problem?
Speaker 3 (07:40):
Then?
Speaker 2 (07:40):
Oh, it's a problem. It's a problem.
Speaker 3 (07:42):
Now. I'd love to say that they're delusional, and they are,
but it's intentional.
Speaker 2 (07:47):
Again, they know what they're doing.
Speaker 3 (07:50):
They are performers, they are actors, and what they are
doing is acting.
Speaker 2 (07:56):
And you know, for all these women in.
Speaker 3 (07:57):
Hollywood who were part of the Me too movement. We
have to, you know, protect all women. Give me a
freaking break. Where have you been totally silent as young
women in oury have been murdered, raped?
Speaker 2 (08:14):
Lake and Riley was on a run in Georgia.
Speaker 3 (08:18):
She was bludgeoned over the head with a rock, sexually assaulted,
and then killed by an illegal immigrant. Jocelyn nunger A
was twelve years old. She died at twelve years old
under a bridge after being raped by two different men
who should have never been in our country.
Speaker 2 (08:34):
They came in illegally.
Speaker 3 (08:35):
Why was Natalie Portman and all of her tears and
all of her humanity? Then, oh, that's right. Those lives
didn't matter to her. Those lives weren't part of the
performance because those lives didn't fit the political narrative.
Speaker 1 (08:46):
That's all true. We'll come back here in a second
with the way forward, and also want to ask you
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ninety eight Birch Gold Group. Caroline. If you were to
see what's going on with particularly young white women in
this country who are showing up at these protests and
they're screaming in the faces of the it seems like
(10:11):
something's really wrong with them, and they're the demographic that
specifically voted more heavily for Kammawa the last time around
than even they did when they were voting for Biden
in twenty twenty. What's happened, Like, what's happened is I'm
not talking about the conservative women are watching this, because
obviously they're not in this category. What has happened to
these liberal white women who have completely lost their minds?
(10:32):
Where did this come from?
Speaker 3 (10:34):
Yeah, They're being completely emotionally manipulated to the point that
they're risking their lives. That's where I say, when you
look at the death of Renee Good, I take.
Speaker 2 (10:45):
No pleasure in that death. I don't agree with liberal women,
but I don't want.
Speaker 3 (10:49):
To see more of them die because their own side
has no regard for their life and brainwashes them to
risk their life in ways that are completely inappropriate and
ultimately can result in death. I mean, I'm sure you've
seen the same video I've seen of Renee Good. The
look in her eyes as she is behind the wheel
(11:11):
of that vehicle and then ramming it into a federal officer,
it's almost like it's almost like it wasn't real life.
To her like she was detached from it or something,
or she thought she was the hero in the story.
You know, these women are being emotionally manipulated by culture.
Alex Earle is one of the biggest female content influencers
(11:35):
in the world, and she just posted about the death
of Alex Pretty in Minneapolis to her millions of young
female followers, of course, with zero context for what actually happens.
So all these sea is, these these fragments, all these
sea are these images deliberately placed in the media, you know,
showing Ice looking like the bad guys that they aren't,
(11:58):
and the media never focuses on the fact that Ice
is actually really the core backbone force that are handling
deporting again the rapists, the criminals, the wife beaters who
have who have killed and abused one too many American women.
(12:19):
But that doesn't even enter the information ecosystem of this
liberal these liberal women. And then what it does is
it drives the genders further away. Okay, right, because you
have these women who are now so liberal that they
don't want to date the men. The men are so
conservative they don't want to date the women. And so
these women, these liberal women are kind of living in
this bubble where they're not getting any other kind of perspective,
(12:43):
and most importantly, they don't have anything in their lives.
I believe that grounds them because for Renee Good to
be impeding law enforcement operations on what was it a
Wednesday at two pm, she's a mother of young children.
No disrespect to the dead, but you have to be
mentally ill to do something like that. And I say
that out of a place of, like I said, genuine concern.
(13:04):
It's a dumb way to die to block ice operations,
just like it would be a dumb way to die
to show it to a combat zone and say I'd
like to use my first Amendment right right now. It's dumb,
but I take no pleasure in it. And I hope
that the liberal media ecosystem realizes what they are doing
to their own listeners and to their.
Speaker 1 (13:22):
Own followers before we wrap up today, because we've actually
covered a lot of ground here, and you know, moved
through this very quickly. But tell us how you got
into politics. I've seen you on Fox, That's how we
got you here. Did a great job on Fox. So
I know you worked in the Trump White House, But
how'd you end up in the trump White House.
Speaker 3 (13:42):
I worked on the Disney Channel on a television series
called Shake It Up. That everybody has their American dream,
Everybody has their childhood dream, and I got to live mine,
which was to perform on the Disney Channel. I played
a character on the series that was a Russian foreign
exchange student, so I always joke that then when I
went to work for President Trump, you know.
Speaker 2 (14:03):
I'm the closest thing there ever was to Russian collusion.
Speaker 3 (14:06):
But I left Hollywood. I was an intern in President
Trump's White House. His message when he came down the
escalator in twenty fifteen really resonated with me. I was
mad at the political class in this country that I
had felt had failed us through their own selfish and
stupid leadership. And I love my country and I wanted
(14:27):
to do something about it. And so I come from
very liberal Hollywood and I left to serve in President
Trump's White House. I was canceled, experienced the full brunt
of that for being canceled for my political opinions, and
I learned so much going through that that made me
want to speak up more rather than stay silent. And
(14:51):
I love that. One of the great things about having
President Trump back in the White House now, is it
finally feels like some of the tide of cancel culture
has has turned and you watch certain brands feel like
they can't get away with what they got away with before.
Speaker 2 (15:05):
And so President Trump's you know.
Speaker 3 (15:07):
Win wasn't just a political win, it was a cultural
win to and I really want to make sure that
those conservatives again, I came from the cultural space where
it's a very liberal industry. The left has held that
ground for a long time. I'd love to see conservatives
keep making grounds and gains in culture. We're half the country,
you know, and it's time that that's reflected in our culture.
Speaker 1 (15:28):
What is your favorite Disney cartoon of all time?
Speaker 2 (15:33):
Cartoons? So like not not live action?
Speaker 1 (15:35):
No, no, no, no, yeah, because that's like so much there.
I'm trying to narrow it down aload it for you here,
because you know, we got obviously Snow White, Sleeping Beauty,
and then everything you know since and in between.
Speaker 3 (15:46):
Yeah, and like okay, so no live action movies and
like do you count Pixar or do you want to.
Speaker 1 (15:50):
Be like the you can do you can do Pixar,
just no live action. We'll just limit it to no
live action.
Speaker 2 (15:55):
Okay, Oh that's tough.
Speaker 1 (15:57):
Because I also don't even remember all the Disney movies
that are Disney, whereas like the Disney cartoons, I always
know it's a Disney cartoon.
Speaker 3 (16:04):
What's your favorite one.
Speaker 2 (16:05):
I'm trying to think of mine, just because.
Speaker 1 (16:06):
Mine is a little bit off the beaten path. I
mean the I do think The Lion King, The Lion King,
Beauty and the Beast and Aladdin were kind of like
peak Disney cultural influence for the cartoon stuff. But I
always love The Sword and the Stone and Archimedes the Owl.
When I was a kid, I watched that a million times.
(16:29):
I know every scene in that movie. I know who
what what? Like, I can do all like, I know
all of it. So yeah, I actually I actually want
a pet owl so I can name him Archimedes, like
I'm a weird guy.
Speaker 3 (16:40):
But that's that's where you should get what's stopping you?
Speaker 2 (16:43):
You should that's pretty cool.
Speaker 1 (16:45):
Technically it's illegal, Yes, the problem is you're not allowed
to have a pet owl. But yeah, you can't have
an owl. There it's a bird of they're considered a
bird of pread. I've looked into this. Obviously considered a
bird of play. The problem is, imagine this, if you
had a pet owl, you would have to feed it
with it and and they eat essentially like mice and
things like that, and then you have like mice bones
(17:08):
and carcasses that pile up under wherever the owl. So
it's like messy. It's not good. It's not a good
thing to have in your house. You have like little
mouse skeletons piling up in the corner. It's not good.
Speaker 2 (17:19):
And now I feel stupid.
Speaker 3 (17:20):
I'm like, I feel like that's like saying, like, why
don't we have a pet bald eagle.
Speaker 2 (17:23):
It's like, well, Caroline, because that's no.
Speaker 1 (17:25):
I mean an owl. There is so in Florida, since
you're since we're on this topic, in Florida, you can
get an exotic animal license again because I've looked into
this and I believe that an owl would be covered
under a class three. Yeah, you can get a whole
bunch of different So there's like three different classes. Class
one is like a like a lion, and like you
need a special you know, you need to have like
(17:47):
a preserve for that. And they can't just like get
a pet line. But you can get like sort of
a different kinds of snakes and things like that. I
think you can get a skunk with a class three.
You might be able to get. There's a small owl
I forget. I think it's a tawny owl that might
be called a tawny owl something like that that you
might be able to get. But yeah, they have big talons.
They're not as cute as Archimedes and Sword in the Stone.
(18:08):
That's the problem, you know. And they don't talk, which
Archimedes does, which I remember very well. So, now that
I've given you a lot of time to think this
one through, your best Disney as a Disney alumna, yourself,
your favorite Disney cartoon.
Speaker 3 (18:22):
Growing up, I loved The Little Mermaid, and then I
also loved Oh because I love the ocean. But I
mean I would watch The Little Mermaid to the point
that I thought I could become a mermaid. And that's
also one of the biggest reasons I'm against children having
any right to decide if they're like a boy or
a girl or need a transition. It's because, like, at
eight years old, I genuinely believed that I could be
(18:45):
a mermaid, because your faculties just aren't developed at like
eight years old, you know, so I genuinely thought, well,
if I play the pool enough, like I'll grow grow
a tail, you know, because I loved watching Little Mermaid.
Doesn't really work like that, so you got to be
more protective of kids. But Disney used to make so
much great content. I loved growing up on that content.
I hate a lot of what it's become because I
(19:06):
think when it was at its best, like even your
reference was so niche.
Speaker 2 (19:10):
I love that. I think when it was at its best, before.
Speaker 3 (19:12):
A lot of the woke content completely infiltrated it, it
was so pure, like it was like.
Speaker 1 (19:18):
Childhood I grew. I grew up watching Disney cartoons as
a kid, so I really was. And even movies like
Old Yeller, which I think no one remembers Old Yeller
that that I still I still get, like choked up.
Speaker 3 (19:30):
The Lion King makes me choke up when I've just
recently watched the live action version of The Lion King
and like there's something about Mufasa, you know, oh yeah,
giving his life for a son that I think, like
will always get you.
Speaker 2 (19:45):
It makes me tear up up.
Speaker 1 (19:47):
Yeah, great great content when they're not doing the like
woke trying to training your kids stuff, which unfortunately in
recent years they've done a lot of me right, It's like.
Speaker 2 (19:56):
I miss all of the they had such a good way.
Speaker 3 (19:58):
Back during that generation of content of figuring out how
to like kind of impart values and lessons to you
and the kind of sneaky like put the spinach in
the spaghetti.
Speaker 2 (20:06):
Sauce kind of way.
Speaker 3 (20:08):
And it's a it's a shame for the company and
for our culture that they've moved away from that.
Speaker 2 (20:13):
We got to get that back or make it better.
Speaker 1 (20:16):
Absolutely. Where can people go to follow your content? Check
things out?
Speaker 3 (20:20):
Yeah, thank you for watching and for having me. You
can follow me on x which is Sea Sunshine, and
then you can follow me on Instagram Caroline Sunshine And
I'm experimenting with TikTok, so I'll keep you posted on
how that goes.
Speaker 1 (20:35):
All right, thanks for being here. Good to see you.
Speaker 2 (20:38):
Thanks for having me.
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